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	<title>Comments on: You Can’t Love America and Love Edward Snowden</title>
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		<title>By: 00000</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2014 22:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey  Ronn Torossian, does the government pay you to cry for them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey  Ronn Torossian, does the government pay you to cry for them?</p>
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		<title>By: J.M. Becker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.M. Becker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2014 20:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. He&#039;s a center right wing libertarian, MAYBE you could argue Centrist Libertarian.... but nothing he advocates is left-wing. 

2. Neither China, nor Russia, are leftist systems. Historically you can say they had their leftwing aspects, but both were knee high in conflicting interests, and never remotely represented any leftist ideal.  Real leftists like Trotsky, who Lenin called the best example of bolshevism, was killed by a pick-axe to the head.... Stalin had him murdered, obviously it wasn&#039;t pro-leftism that motivated that assassination.


3.  Leftism doesn&#039;t require totalitarianism, nor does it necessitate an invasive government.  It can include aspects of heavy statism, but statism isn&#039;t leftism... just as libertarianism isn&#039;t rightism.  Left/right, and State/Individual aren&#039;t exclusive in anyway, they are only related by method and intention.


4. Anarchism is to Communism, as Libertarianism is to Fascism... In other words, they are not similar in their character by any stretch.  It&#039;s the libertarianism that both Snowden, Rand, Wyden, and Chomsky share, but all of which are definitely on different ends of the right/left spectrum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. He&#8217;s a center right wing libertarian, MAYBE you could argue Centrist Libertarian&#8230;. but nothing he advocates is left-wing. </p>
<p>2. Neither China, nor Russia, are leftist systems. Historically you can say they had their leftwing aspects, but both were knee high in conflicting interests, and never remotely represented any leftist ideal.  Real leftists like Trotsky, who Lenin called the best example of bolshevism, was killed by a pick-axe to the head&#8230;. Stalin had him murdered, obviously it wasn&#8217;t pro-leftism that motivated that assassination.</p>
<p>3.  Leftism doesn&#8217;t require totalitarianism, nor does it necessitate an invasive government.  It can include aspects of heavy statism, but statism isn&#8217;t leftism&#8230; just as libertarianism isn&#8217;t rightism.  Left/right, and State/Individual aren&#8217;t exclusive in anyway, they are only related by method and intention.</p>
<p>4. Anarchism is to Communism, as Libertarianism is to Fascism&#8230; In other words, they are not similar in their character by any stretch.  It&#8217;s the libertarianism that both Snowden, Rand, Wyden, and Chomsky share, but all of which are definitely on different ends of the right/left spectrum.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard L Bittner</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard L Bittner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have no business calling your self any American. You have no credible understanding of the Bill of Rights. The country would greatly benefit from your absence. You and other facist morons like you, should simply leave as quickly as possible.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have no business calling your self any American. You have no credible understanding of the Bill of Rights. The country would greatly benefit from your absence. You and other facist morons like you, should simply leave as quickly as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 21:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m in the middle on this situation, but this article is biased trash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the middle on this situation, but this article is biased trash.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2013 07:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it not plausible that in his sincere desire to play &quot;whistle blower&quot; that he was duped by America&#039;s enemies?

He&#039;s as much a whistle blower as Julian Assange. They both believe their own BS. Whether our government has gotten too intrusive is a separate discussion and truly Snowden did not expose anything new. Perhaps to the public at large. 



But really, try to avoid declaring anything as absolutely good or absolutely bad enough you&#039;ve got strong enough evidence to do so. Snowden ran to China and Russia. You&#039;re going to have to deal with that before you declare him to be a non-traitorous hero.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it not plausible that in his sincere desire to play &#8220;whistle blower&#8221; that he was duped by America&#8217;s enemies?</p>
<p>He&#8217;s as much a whistle blower as Julian Assange. They both believe their own BS. Whether our government has gotten too intrusive is a separate discussion and truly Snowden did not expose anything new. Perhaps to the public at large. </p>
<p>But really, try to avoid declaring anything as absolutely good or absolutely bad enough you&#8217;ve got strong enough evidence to do so. Snowden ran to China and Russia. You&#8217;re going to have to deal with that before you declare him to be a non-traitorous hero.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia Eggett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patricia Eggett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jul 2013 23:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The liar in office gives our money and weapons to rapist, cannibal  moslems, (Morsi and Syria) without our vote or consent or any concern for our future.  We have lost our pride like our jobs and any hope for our children&#039;s future (student loans).  Snowden told the truth and that seems to have so many consequences.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The liar in office gives our money and weapons to rapist, cannibal  moslems, (Morsi and Syria) without our vote or consent or any concern for our future.  We have lost our pride like our jobs and any hope for our children&#8217;s future (student loans).  Snowden told the truth and that seems to have so many consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: Shin-Yi Chu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shin-Yi Chu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 05:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[snowden is a hero!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>snowden is a hero!</p>
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		<title>By: Jsjk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jsjk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 01:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Snowden is a Leftist. I suspect both the Russians and Chinese now have access to a wealth of top-secret information which damages the security of the United States. (We&#039;ll have to wait and see to discover just how much Snowden despises the United States). ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Snowden is a Leftist. I suspect both the Russians and Chinese now have access to a wealth of top-secret information which damages the security of the United States. (We&#8217;ll have to wait and see to discover just how much Snowden despises the United States). </p>
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		<title>By: DontMessWithAmerica</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DontMessWithAmerica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 01:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me put it as gently and politely as I can. Snowden is a true hero. We need a dozen more like him in the State Department and the DOJ and the White House to obtain proof of their perjury and criminal behavior and put them away for good. Snowden gave up an excellent income and easy job because he had a conscience. He caused no security harm to the country even though Obama&#039;s puppets are screaming that this is so. On most matters I&#039;ll listen to opposing views. In this case I won&#039;t.  Those who call Snowden a traitor or the like are either total idiots of hypocrites and frauds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me put it as gently and politely as I can. Snowden is a true hero. We need a dozen more like him in the State Department and the DOJ and the White House to obtain proof of their perjury and criminal behavior and put them away for good. Snowden gave up an excellent income and easy job because he had a conscience. He caused no security harm to the country even though Obama&#8217;s puppets are screaming that this is so. On most matters I&#8217;ll listen to opposing views. In this case I won&#8217;t.  Those who call Snowden a traitor or the like are either total idiots of hypocrites and frauds.</p>
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		<title>By: DOYOULOVEAMERICA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DOYOULOVEAMERICA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2013 21:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Real Americans want to bring back the old days when you had right wing death squads dispensing justice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real Americans want to bring back the old days when you had right wing death squads dispensing justice.</p>
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		<title>By: defcon 4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[defcon 4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2013 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You empty accusations remind me of 1984 (or Lenin&#039;s USSR, or Stalin&#039;s USSR, or Castro&#039;s Cuba), in which &quot;traitors&quot; are demonized before they&#039;re disappeared.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You empty accusations remind me of 1984 (or Lenin&#8217;s USSR, or Stalin&#8217;s USSR, or Castro&#8217;s Cuba), in which &#8220;traitors&#8221; are demonized before they&#8217;re disappeared.</p>
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		<title>By: defcon 4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[defcon 4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2013 16:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Considering the state of the union, I&#039;d never vote to convict Snowden of anything. He has exposed the federal government for the corrupt dung heap it is. A corrupt dung heap that delights in violating it&#039;s oath to uphold the US Constitution at every turn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the state of the union, I&#8217;d never vote to convict Snowden of anything. He has exposed the federal government for the corrupt dung heap it is. A corrupt dung heap that delights in violating it&#8217;s oath to uphold the US Constitution at every turn.</p>
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		<title>By: ReyR</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ReyR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2013 15:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just another fact to accept, part of the phase. Before and immediately after the USSR collapsed back in 91, we here in Russia were amazed at a veritable army of traitors and turncoats. 20 years on, most of them are either dead of frustration or drag yeast-like existence someplace far. At the time, they seemed lethal and important, now we know they were just greedy scum or romantic idiots. Chill out, guys, America will survive, I believe in your people, but you do need change of government. When my nation crashed and sank in the 90s, we were desperate, but life now is better than 20 years ago, and I believe US citizens will be able to say just that a score years from now. Bite the bullet and live, just to spite the bastards, things are going to sort out soon enough. Merely a phase in your national history. Something to tell your grandson.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another fact to accept, part of the phase. Before and immediately after the USSR collapsed back in 91, we here in Russia were amazed at a veritable army of traitors and turncoats. 20 years on, most of them are either dead of frustration or drag yeast-like existence someplace far. At the time, they seemed lethal and important, now we know they were just greedy scum or romantic idiots. Chill out, guys, America will survive, I believe in your people, but you do need change of government. When my nation crashed and sank in the 90s, we were desperate, but life now is better than 20 years ago, and I believe US citizens will be able to say just that a score years from now. Bite the bullet and live, just to spite the bastards, things are going to sort out soon enough. Merely a phase in your national history. Something to tell your grandson.</p>
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		<title>By: DebRollin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DebRollin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2013 15:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These are the leaders in charge, man have we slipped in electing no accounts to office...no wonder Russia and China do not take O seriously and defy and make fun of him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are the leaders in charge, man have we slipped in electing no accounts to office&#8230;no wonder Russia and China do not take O seriously and defy and make fun of him.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dead Critic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Dead Critic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2013 14:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope Obama get&#039;s trashed in the liberal owned press the next 3 years. Right after he takes that multi-million dollar vacation on the tax payers dime again. Serves the liberal mafia right....or is that left?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Obama get&#8217;s trashed in the liberal owned press the next 3 years. Right after he takes that multi-million dollar vacation on the tax payers dime again. Serves the liberal mafia right&#8230;.or is that left?!</p>
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		<title>By: Demetrius Minneapolis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Demetrius Minneapolis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where&#039;s your proof he was a double agent and &quot;stealing&quot; secrets for years? Do you even know the depth of information he presented is just a top layer, one that many if the know were very much aware of. Ever heard of Echelon? Carnivore? What information he presented was already known, he just updated the new name for the program and the matrix that it affected (basically everyone). 

Perhaps some reading is in store for you Adam, and a packet of &quot;Kool Aid&quot;, I recommend grape.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s your proof he was a double agent and &#8220;stealing&#8221; secrets for years? Do you even know the depth of information he presented is just a top layer, one that many if the know were very much aware of. Ever heard of Echelon? Carnivore? What information he presented was already known, he just updated the new name for the program and the matrix that it affected (basically everyone). </p>
<p>Perhaps some reading is in store for you Adam, and a packet of &#8220;Kool Aid&#8221;, I recommend grape.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Snowden was more than just a traitor he is a double agent who has been stealing national secrets for years. How many more Snowdens are hiding in plain sight. Obama cannot smooth talk his way through this disgrace. America is officially the laughing stock of the world, particularly because our own citizens consider this traitor a hero. Everyone has been drinking the coolade.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snowden was more than just a traitor he is a double agent who has been stealing national secrets for years. How many more Snowdens are hiding in plain sight. Obama cannot smooth talk his way through this disgrace. America is officially the laughing stock of the world, particularly because our own citizens consider this traitor a hero. Everyone has been drinking the coolade.</p>
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		<title>By: coolfoolagain</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[coolfoolagain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Government is the domestic enemy. Snowden is a patriot for exposing the police state.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government is the domestic enemy. Snowden is a patriot for exposing the police state.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikkoli David</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nikkoli David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2013 07:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Constitution: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

The Supreme Court has interpreted this to mean that no one can commit treason unless it’s with a country against whom our Congress has declared war. This means that neither the Vietnam War nor the Korean War nor the War on Terror can yieldtreasonous Americans, as none of these wars were declared by Congress. The last declared war was World War II and the last American convicted of treason was Tomoya Kawakita, who helped the Japanese in WWII and was convicted in 1952.

trai·tor [trey-ter] 
noun
1.
a person who betrays another, a cause, or any trust.
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a person who commits treason by betraying his or her country.

So who thinks Snowden is a traitor and who thinks he is a whistleblower?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Constitution: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.</p>
<p>The Supreme Court has interpreted this to mean that no one can commit treason unless it’s with a country against whom our Congress has declared war. This means that neither the Vietnam War nor the Korean War nor the War on Terror can yieldtreasonous Americans, as none of these wars were declared by Congress. The last declared war was World War II and the last American convicted of treason was Tomoya Kawakita, who helped the Japanese in WWII and was convicted in 1952.</p>
<p>trai·tor [trey-ter]<br />
noun<br />
1.<br />
a person who betrays another, a cause, or any trust.<br />
2.<br />
a person who commits treason by betraying his or her country.</p>
<p>So who thinks Snowden is a traitor and who thinks he is a whistleblower?</p>
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