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		<title>By: Nagesha</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nagesha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2014 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, the Christians doing the inquisition learned this &#039;craft&#039; from the muslims who had conquered spain and had conditioned the non-muslims into dhimmitude, death for apostasy, &amp; blasphemy, etc. Now the christian spaniards were throwing the muslims out and were using some of what they learned from their former masters to ensure loyalties. If non-muslims are not ready to be as brutal as the muslims, then the muslims will win.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, the Christians doing the inquisition learned this &#8216;craft&#8217; from the muslims who had conquered spain and had conditioned the non-muslims into dhimmitude, death for apostasy, &amp; blasphemy, etc. Now the christian spaniards were throwing the muslims out and were using some of what they learned from their former masters to ensure loyalties. If non-muslims are not ready to be as brutal as the muslims, then the muslims will win.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Texas Patriot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2014 12:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FA:  &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Then stop coming to other peoples country. Stop nosing around. Stop &#039;invading&#039; or threatening people from other country. You come to someonelses country and of cause the citizens will fight back cause its their home. When you come to someones country and cause fear, you are the terrorist.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

I don’t have a problem with that, but it works both ways.  As Rudyard Kipling once said:

&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God’s great Judgment Seat;But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;



I think the East and West have much to learn from one another, but I don’t think it is realistic that we will ever assimilate with one another.  Fortunately, with the miracle of internet communications, it is now possible to learn from foreign cultures without ever going there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FA:  <b><i>Then stop coming to other peoples country. Stop nosing around. Stop &#8216;invading&#8217; or threatening people from other country. You come to someonelses country and of cause the citizens will fight back cause its their home. When you come to someones country and cause fear, you are the terrorist.</i></b></p>
<p>I don’t have a problem with that, but it works both ways.  As Rudyard Kipling once said:</p>
<p><b><i>Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God’s great Judgment Seat;But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth!</i></b></p>
<p>I think the East and West have much to learn from one another, but I don’t think it is realistic that we will ever assimilate with one another.  Fortunately, with the miracle of internet communications, it is now possible to learn from foreign cultures without ever going there.</p>
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		<title>By: Fauzan Auburn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fauzan Auburn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2014 11:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then stop coming to other peoples country. Stop nosing around. Stop &#039;invading&#039; or threatening people from other country. You come to someonelses country and of cause the citizens will fight back cause its their home. When you come to someones country and cause fear, you are the terrorist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then stop coming to other peoples country. Stop nosing around. Stop &#8216;invading&#8217; or threatening people from other country. You come to someonelses country and of cause the citizens will fight back cause its their home. When you come to someones country and cause fear, you are the terrorist.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2014 21:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t argue with your other statements, but I really wonder from which source did you learn Constantinople was OVER half Christian in 1900 AD? I am from Turkey and that is a VERY silly claim. I say like this, because the Ottoman archive system was more developed than his European counterparts until the disintegration, and all the population records are still open for investigation. After WWI, Christian people who were from other areas of the country were forced to migrate out of the country but Istanbul was exception and they were all maintained (they are still a small minority)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t argue with your other statements, but I really wonder from which source did you learn Constantinople was OVER half Christian in 1900 AD? I am from Turkey and that is a VERY silly claim. I say like this, because the Ottoman archive system was more developed than his European counterparts until the disintegration, and all the population records are still open for investigation. After WWI, Christian people who were from other areas of the country were forced to migrate out of the country but Istanbul was exception and they were all maintained (they are still a small minority)</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Nov 2013 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a link to the conversation - nothing to see here, citizen...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a link to the conversation &#8211; nothing to see here, citizen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JoFro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoFro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 03:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That was because of the treachery of the Byzantine Emperor - the guy made deals with his Muslim enemies while the Crusaders were out there losing life and limb for him. It was the hell of Byzantine politics that finally got the Crusaders angry enough with the Emperor that they decided better that they run the lands they fought for rather than let him and his bureaucrats run the place.


Perhaps had the Byzantines not decided to play around with the lives of men they had asked the Pope to send, the Crusaders would very likely have fought under the Emperor.


But the Emperor didn&#039;t and well, we got the Latin states!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was because of the treachery of the Byzantine Emperor &#8211; the guy made deals with his Muslim enemies while the Crusaders were out there losing life and limb for him. It was the hell of Byzantine politics that finally got the Crusaders angry enough with the Emperor that they decided better that they run the lands they fought for rather than let him and his bureaucrats run the place.</p>
<p>Perhaps had the Byzantines not decided to play around with the lives of men they had asked the Pope to send, the Crusaders would very likely have fought under the Emperor.</p>
<p>But the Emperor didn&#8217;t and well, we got the Latin states!</p>
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		<title>By: paendragon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paendragon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2013 02:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1). More libel; I asked you to prove I&#039;d ever even implied I&#039;d claimed that research as my own, and you haven&#039;t because you can&#039;t. Go read a bibliography or something constructive rather than obsess over pretended injustice.



2). The Romans also didn&#039;t donate Israel to the church; the church already owned it, as their inheritance from it&#039;s King. Whether or not the Donation was a forgery, all the nobles and clergy went along with it if only for the convenience, and they still all do so to this day. The forgery &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; happen, because it exists - there was no real Donation, but the forged one was created and accepted by all.


And of course Christianity itself had no hand in the conquest of any of the Roman lands, because it was pre-Christian pagan Romans who had done all the violent conquering.



Re: The conquest of Jericho etc - you claim it was unjust because no reasons were given; I can as easily postulate it was just for the exact same reasons - they didn&#039;t provide any justifications for it because everyone knew all about Jericho&#039;s many crimes at the time; it would have been like having to list all of Hitler&#039;s every crime whenever invoking the &quot;nazis were bad&quot; meme: tiresome and unneccessary.


3). You&#039;re still an idiot.



;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1). More libel; I asked you to prove I&#8217;d ever even implied I&#8217;d claimed that research as my own, and you haven&#8217;t because you can&#8217;t. Go read a bibliography or something constructive rather than obsess over pretended injustice.</p>
<p>2). The Romans also didn&#8217;t donate Israel to the church; the church already owned it, as their inheritance from it&#8217;s King. Whether or not the Donation was a forgery, all the nobles and clergy went along with it if only for the convenience, and they still all do so to this day. The forgery <i>did</i> happen, because it exists &#8211; there was no real Donation, but the forged one was created and accepted by all.</p>
<p>And of course Christianity itself had no hand in the conquest of any of the Roman lands, because it was pre-Christian pagan Romans who had done all the violent conquering.</p>
<p>Re: The conquest of Jericho etc &#8211; you claim it was unjust because no reasons were given; I can as easily postulate it was just for the exact same reasons &#8211; they didn&#8217;t provide any justifications for it because everyone knew all about Jericho&#8217;s many crimes at the time; it would have been like having to list all of Hitler&#8217;s every crime whenever invoking the &#8220;nazis were bad&#8221; meme: tiresome and unneccessary.</p>
<p>3). You&#8217;re still an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2013 00:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I made no error except telling you about the topic.&quot;


Rationalize and justify it is.  Pity.  Still, good to have the sham out in the open and the posturing exposed for what it was.  I&#039;m satisfied.

&quot;Wrong, because Constantine was surrendering his ill-gotten territorial gains back to God...&quot;
 
This makes no sense on two counts:
1)  He &lt;i&gt;didn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; surrender the gains you now admit were ill-gotten back to God - the Donation was a &lt;i&gt;forgery.&lt;/i&gt;  It &lt;i&gt;didn&#039;t happen.&lt;/i&gt;
 
2)  The Romans didn&#039;t take the land from God or from the Church; they took it from the Jews.  If I steal everything you own, then donate it to the Church, the Church does not thereby gain moral or legal title to your property, however pious my intentions.  
 
Among the many problems with your approach to the issue is that you&#039;ve yet to come up with a coherent or rational basis for justifying the Jewish conquest of the territory that doesn&#039;t also justify subsequent conquests as well.  Claiming that the inhabitants of Jericho, for example, were &quot;criminals&quot; because their religion was polytheistic or involved the use of idols is patently silly - to the extent that one wonders if your whole position is an intentional sham.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I made no error except telling you about the topic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rationalize and justify it is.  Pity.  Still, good to have the sham out in the open and the posturing exposed for what it was.  I&#8217;m satisfied.</p>
<p>&#8220;Wrong, because Constantine was surrendering his ill-gotten territorial gains back to God&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>This makes no sense on two counts:<br />
1)  He <i>didn&#8217;t</i> surrender the gains you now admit were ill-gotten back to God &#8211; the Donation was a <i>forgery.</i>  It <i>didn&#8217;t happen.</i></p>
<p>2)  The Romans didn&#8217;t take the land from God or from the Church; they took it from the Jews.  If I steal everything you own, then donate it to the Church, the Church does not thereby gain moral or legal title to your property, however pious my intentions.  </p>
<p>Among the many problems with your approach to the issue is that you&#8217;ve yet to come up with a coherent or rational basis for justifying the Jewish conquest of the territory that doesn&#8217;t also justify subsequent conquests as well.  Claiming that the inhabitants of Jericho, for example, were &#8220;criminals&#8221; because their religion was polytheistic or involved the use of idols is patently silly &#8211; to the extent that one wonders if your whole position is an intentional sham.</p>
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		<title>By: paendragon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paendragon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2013 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1).I never even remotely implied it was my own research; go back and re-read the posts. 

I declared the topic existed, and then refused to let you have the sources because you were too obsessed with it, and it was a distractive side-issue digression anyway.

2). Besides, since I found the list on an old Facebook group site a few years ago, who&#039;s to say this person you&#039;ve found didn&#039;t just steal it from elsewhere to back up their wacko views, too? 



I made no error except telling you about the topic. 



And I didn&#039;t cite the original Facebook poster&#039;s identity (&quot;BobTheDestroyer&quot; or whatever) either, for obvious reasons.

3). It doesn&#039;t matter if the Donation of Constantine was exposed as a forgery, because everyone agreed to it, and that&#039;s how they all - clergy and nobles - agreed to do things from then on, which continued on in force even to today.

Re: &quot;Even if it had been the actual work of Constantine, it would not establish Constantine&#039;s own right to the lands, which had been gained through conquest.&quot;


Wrong, because Constantine was surrendering his ill-gotten territorial gains back to God, for the church to hold in trust and disburse as it saw fit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1).I never even remotely implied it was my own research; go back and re-read the posts. </p>
<p>I declared the topic existed, and then refused to let you have the sources because you were too obsessed with it, and it was a distractive side-issue digression anyway.</p>
<p>2). Besides, since I found the list on an old Facebook group site a few years ago, who&#8217;s to say this person you&#8217;ve found didn&#8217;t just steal it from elsewhere to back up their wacko views, too? </p>
<p>I made no error except telling you about the topic. </p>
<p>And I didn&#8217;t cite the original Facebook poster&#8217;s identity (&#8220;BobTheDestroyer&#8221; or whatever) either, for obvious reasons.</p>
<p>3). It doesn&#8217;t matter if the Donation of Constantine was exposed as a forgery, because everyone agreed to it, and that&#8217;s how they all &#8211; clergy and nobles &#8211; agreed to do things from then on, which continued on in force even to today.</p>
<p>Re: &#8220;Even if it had been the actual work of Constantine, it would not establish Constantine&#8217;s own right to the lands, which had been gained through conquest.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong, because Constantine was surrendering his ill-gotten territorial gains back to God, for the church to hold in trust and disburse as it saw fit.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2013 10:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Where did I say I&#039;d claimed any of the quoted sources as my own, moron?&quot;

 

When you posted the list as your own research, without crediting the person who had actually done it.  

 

Here&#039;s a good rule of thumb: if you try to create the impression that you&#039;ve done something you haven&#039;t, that you&#039;ve written something that isn&#039;t your own, that you&#039;ve researched something you haven&#039;t, you are being dishonest.  Lashing out won&#039;t change that.  

The Donation of Constantine was first exposed as a forgery in the 15th Century.  Even if it had been the actual work of Constantine, it would not establish Constantine&#039;s own right to the lands, which had been gained through conquest.

&quot;And like you ever bothered to read all the books in anyone&#039;s bibliography!&quot;
 
I&#039;ve never cited a source for my own research that I haven&#039;t actually consulted.  If I&#039;m passing on someone else&#039;s bibliography as a set of &lt;i&gt;potential&lt;/i&gt; sources for someone else&#039;s research, I credit the source of the work.  



Look, you were clearly trying to create the impression that you&#039;d read books, conducted research, and established a basis for your comments that it is now clear you hadn&#039;t done.  You can rationalize, justify, and insult, or you can learn from your error.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Where did I say I&#8217;d claimed any of the quoted sources as my own, moron?&#8221;</p>
<p>When you posted the list as your own research, without crediting the person who had actually done it.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a good rule of thumb: if you try to create the impression that you&#8217;ve done something you haven&#8217;t, that you&#8217;ve written something that isn&#8217;t your own, that you&#8217;ve researched something you haven&#8217;t, you are being dishonest.  Lashing out won&#8217;t change that.  </p>
<p>The Donation of Constantine was first exposed as a forgery in the 15th Century.  Even if it had been the actual work of Constantine, it would not establish Constantine&#8217;s own right to the lands, which had been gained through conquest.</p>
<p>&#8220;And like you ever bothered to read all the books in anyone&#8217;s bibliography!&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never cited a source for my own research that I haven&#8217;t actually consulted.  If I&#8217;m passing on someone else&#8217;s bibliography as a set of <i>potential</i> sources for someone else&#8217;s research, I credit the source of the work.  </p>
<p>Look, you were clearly trying to create the impression that you&#8217;d read books, conducted research, and established a basis for your comments that it is now clear you hadn&#8217;t done.  You can rationalize, justify, and insult, or you can learn from your error.</p>
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		<title>By: paendragon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paendragon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2013 06:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any yours trend the reverse. Beware the sin of hubris.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any yours trend the reverse. Beware the sin of hubris.</p>
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		<title>By: paendragon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paendragon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2013 06:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Plagiarist,&quot; slanderer? Where did I say I&#039;d claimed any of the quoted sources as my own, moron? And like you ever bothered to read all the books in anyone&#039;s bibliography! Nice try, but such hyperbole only shows you to be a crass and nonsensical internet troll.



Here&#039;s why the Crusaders had as much right to the Middle Eastern lands as the Byzantines: Because of the Donation of Constantine, where all agreed the rights of the nobility to own (or manage) lands came from the Christian Church, holding them in trust for God.


So nationality came in second behind religion - same as was copied into the islamic creed (only there it was only an excuse used by Muhammad to justify his many crimes). Christians have a responsibility to defend their lands from criminal invasions.



And so the Emperor Alexius then called on the Western Crusaders to assist him re-claim the lands of his empire which had been violently invaded by the Arabian muslim criminals, and he offered those lands to them and their heirs as part of the deal. That he then reneged on his other initial offer to re-supply them (and, in fact, decided to keep them hostage unless and until they had assisted him to thwart his rivals&#039; ambitions, at which point they took what supplies they had originally been offered, and broke out to continue the original mission) didn&#039;t change anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Plagiarist,&#8221; slanderer? Where did I say I&#8217;d claimed any of the quoted sources as my own, moron? And like you ever bothered to read all the books in anyone&#8217;s bibliography! Nice try, but such hyperbole only shows you to be a crass and nonsensical internet troll.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s why the Crusaders had as much right to the Middle Eastern lands as the Byzantines: Because of the Donation of Constantine, where all agreed the rights of the nobility to own (or manage) lands came from the Christian Church, holding them in trust for God.</p>
<p>So nationality came in second behind religion &#8211; same as was copied into the islamic creed (only there it was only an excuse used by Muhammad to justify his many crimes). Christians have a responsibility to defend their lands from criminal invasions.</p>
<p>And so the Emperor Alexius then called on the Western Crusaders to assist him re-claim the lands of his empire which had been violently invaded by the Arabian muslim criminals, and he offered those lands to them and their heirs as part of the deal. That he then reneged on his other initial offer to re-supply them (and, in fact, decided to keep them hostage unless and until they had assisted him to thwart his rivals&#8217; ambitions, at which point they took what supplies they had originally been offered, and broke out to continue the original mission) didn&#8217;t change anything.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2013 01:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your posts are getting shorter without losing substance.  Good trend.]]></description>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The last time I offered them as the sources underlying arguments or opinions I had offered, plagiarist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time I offered them as the sources underlying arguments or opinions I had offered, plagiarist.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[When was the last time you felt compelled to read all the books listed in a book&#039;s bibliography, idiot?

And yes, you did assert that the purpose of the inquisition was to forcibly convert Jews and muslims to Christianity.

Furthermore, you also asserted the main purpose of the various Crusades was to take over nations, in stead of what they were really commissioned for: to repel criminals from the lands they had already invaded.

Everything you&#039;ve quibbled about so far was based on false premises.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When was the last time you felt compelled to read all the books listed in a book&#8217;s bibliography, idiot?</p>
<p>And yes, you did assert that the purpose of the inquisition was to forcibly convert Jews and muslims to Christianity.</p>
<p>Furthermore, you also asserted the main purpose of the various Crusades was to take over nations, in stead of what they were really commissioned for: to repel criminals from the lands they had already invaded.</p>
<p>Everything you&#8217;ve quibbled about so far was based on false premises.</p>
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The thread was becoming tiresome, so here it is:

The Jewish Spanish Inquisition:

When they have consolidated the power to do so, the rabbis of Judaism
 cut off the hands of those who ran afoul of their Halakhic law, 
including the hands of their own followers:

    &quot;Politically, the position of Jews in the Christian Spanish 
kingdoms was the highest ever attained by Jews in any country (except 
some of the ta&#039;ifas and under the Fatimids) before the 19th century. 
Many Jews served officially as Treasurers General to the kings of 
Castile, regional and general tax collectors, diplomats (representing 
their king in foreign courts, both Muslim and Christian, even outside 
Spain), courtiers and advisers to rulers and great noblemen. And in no 
other country except Poland did the Jewish community wield such great 
legal powers over the Jews or used them so widely and publicly, 
including the power to inflict capital punishment.

And in no other country except Poland did the Jewish community wield 
such great legal powers over the Jews or used them so widely and 
publicly, including the power to inflict capital punishment. From the 
11th century the persecution of Karaites (a heretical Jewish sect) by 
flogging them to death if unrepentant was common in Castile. Jewish 
women who cohabited with Gentiles had their noses cut off by rabbis who 
explained that &#039;in this way she will lose her beauty and her non-Jewish 
lover will come to hate her&#039;. Jews who had the effrontery to attack a 
rabbinical judge had their hands cut off. Adulterers were imprisoned, 
after being made to run the gauntlet through the Jewish quarter. In 
religious disputes, those thought to be heretics had their tongues cut 
out.&quot;

(Professor Israel Shahak - Hebrew University of Jerusalem *Jewish History, Jewish Religion,* p.62)

Get your primer here:

http://www.bandung2.co.uk/book...

;-)

Other references:

Ashtor, Eliyahu. The Jews of Moslem Spain. 3 vols. Philadelphia: 1984.

Assis, Yom Tov. The Jews of Santa Coloma de Queralt. Jerusalem: 1988.

Baer, Yitzhak. A History of the Jews in Christian Spain. 2 vols. Philadelphia: 1961, 1966, 1992.

Beinart, Haim. Trujillo: A Jewish Community in Extremadura on the Eve of the Expulsion from Spain. Jerusalem: 1980.

Burns, Robert I. Jews in the Notarial Culture: Latinate Wills in Mediterranean Spain, 1250–1350. Berkeley: 1996.

Dillard, Heath. Daughters of the Reconquest: Women in Castilian Town Society, 1100–1300. Cambridge: 1984.

Grossman, Avraham. Pious and Rebellious: Jewish Women in Europe in the Middle Ages (Hebrew). Jerusalem: 2001.

Hinojosa Montalvo, José. The Jews of the Kingdom of Valencia. Jerusalem: 1993.

Klein, Elka. Power and Patrimony: the Jewish Community of Barcelona, 1050–1250. Ph.D. Dissertation, Harvard University: 1996.

Lamdan, Ruth. A Separate People: Jewish Women in Palestine, Syria and Egypt in the Sixteenth Century. Leiden: 2000.

Leroy, Beatriz. The Jews of Navarre in the Late Middle Ages. Jerusalem: 1985.

Levine Melammed, Renée. Heretics or Daughters of Israel: The Crypto-Jewish Women of Castile. New York: 1999.

Mirrer, Louise. Women, Jews and Muslims in the Texts of Reconquest Castile. Ann Arbor: 1996.

Regne, Jean. History of the Jews in Aragon. Jerusalem: 1978.

Roth, Cecil. Doña Gracia of the House of Nasi. Philadelphia: 1977.

Winer, Rebecca. Women, Wealth and Community: Christian, Jewish and 
Muslim Women in Thirteenth-Century Aragon. Aldershot, England: 2003.
Articles

Assaf, Simha. “The Anusim of Spain and Portugal in the Responsa Literature” (Hebrew). Me’assef Zion 5 (1933): 19–60.

Assis, Yom Tov. “The ‘Ordinance of Rabbenu Gershom’ and Polygamous Marriages in Spain” (Hebrew). Zion 46 (1981): 251–277.

Assis, Yom Tov. “Sexual Behaviour in Mediaeval Hispano-Jewish 
Society.” Jewish History: Essays in Honour of Chimen Abramsky, edited by
 Ada Rapoport Albert and Steven J. Zipperstein, 25–59. London: 1988.

Beinart, Haim. “Judios y conversos en Casarrubios del Monte.” 
Homenaje a Juan Prado: Miscelánea de estudios biblicos y hebraicos, ed. 
L. Alvarez Verdes, 645–657. Madrid: 1975.

Beinart, Haim. “Herrera: Its Conversos and Jews” (Hebrew). 
Proceedings of the Seventh World Congress of Jewish Studies B, 53–85. 
Jerusalem: 1981.

Bellamy, James A. “Qasmuna the Poetess: Who was She?” Journal of the American Oriental Society 103.2 (1983): 423–424.

Cardoner Planas, A. “Seis mujeres hebreas practicando la medicina en el reino de Aragon.” Sefarad 9 (1949): 442–443.

Fleisher, Ezra. “About Dunash ben Labrat and his Wife and Son.” 
Jerusalem Studies in Hebrew Literature (Hebrew) 5 (1984): 189–202.

Grossman, Avraham. “From the Heritage of Spanish Jewry: Treatment of 
the ‘Killer’ Wife in the Middle Ages” (Hebrew). Tarbiz 67:4 (1998): 
531–561.

Klein, Elka. “Protecting the Widow and the Orphan: a Case Study from Thirteenth-Century Barcelona.” Mosaic 14 (1993): 65–81.

Klein, Elka. “The Widow’s Portion: Law, Custom and Marital Property among Medieval Catalan Jews.” Viator 31 (2000): 147–163.

Kraemer, Joel L. “Spanish Ladies from the Cairo Genizah.” Mediterranean Historical Review 6 (1991): 237–266.

Nichols, James Manfield. “The Arabic Verses of Qasmuna Bint Isma’il 
Ibn Bagdalah.” International Journal of Middle East Studies 13 (1981): 
155–158.

Orfali, Moisés. “Influencia de las sociedades cristiana y musulmana 
en la condición de la mujer judía.” Árabes, judías y cristianas: Mujeres
 en la Europa medieval, ed. Celia del Moral, 77–89. Granada: 1993.

Levine Melammed, Renée. “Sephardi Women in the Medieval and Early 
Modern Periods.” Jewish Women in Historical Perspective, ed. Judith R. 
Baskin, 128–147. Detroit: 1999 (2nd ed.).

Winer, Rebecca. “Family, Community, and Motherhood: Caring for 
Fatherless Children in the Jewish Community of Thirteenth-Century 
Perpignan.” Jewish History 16:1 (2002): 15–48.

Yahalom, Yosef. “The Manyo Letters: The Handiwork of a Country Scribe from North Spain” (Hebrew). Sefunot 7 (1999): 23–33.]]></description>
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<p>The thread was becoming tiresome, so here it is:</p>
<p>The Jewish Spanish Inquisition:</p>
<p>When they have consolidated the power to do so, the rabbis of Judaism<br />
 cut off the hands of those who ran afoul of their Halakhic law,<br />
including the hands of their own followers:</p>
<p>    &#8220;Politically, the position of Jews in the Christian Spanish<br />
kingdoms was the highest ever attained by Jews in any country (except<br />
some of the ta&#8217;ifas and under the Fatimids) before the 19th century.<br />
Many Jews served officially as Treasurers General to the kings of<br />
Castile, regional and general tax collectors, diplomats (representing<br />
their king in foreign courts, both Muslim and Christian, even outside<br />
Spain), courtiers and advisers to rulers and great noblemen. And in no<br />
other country except Poland did the Jewish community wield such great<br />
legal powers over the Jews or used them so widely and publicly,<br />
including the power to inflict capital punishment.</p>
<p>And in no other country except Poland did the Jewish community wield<br />
such great legal powers over the Jews or used them so widely and<br />
publicly, including the power to inflict capital punishment. From the<br />
11th century the persecution of Karaites (a heretical Jewish sect) by<br />
flogging them to death if unrepentant was common in Castile. Jewish<br />
women who cohabited with Gentiles had their noses cut off by rabbis who<br />
explained that &#8216;in this way she will lose her beauty and her non-Jewish<br />
lover will come to hate her&#8217;. Jews who had the effrontery to attack a<br />
rabbinical judge had their hands cut off. Adulterers were imprisoned,<br />
after being made to run the gauntlet through the Jewish quarter. In<br />
religious disputes, those thought to be heretics had their tongues cut<br />
out.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Professor Israel Shahak &#8211; Hebrew University of Jerusalem *Jewish History, Jewish Religion,* p.62)</p>
<p>Get your primer here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bandung2.co.uk/book" rel="nofollow">http://www.bandung2.co.uk/book</a>&#8230;<br />
 <img src="http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p>Other references:</p>
<p>Ashtor, Eliyahu. The Jews of Moslem Spain. 3 vols. Philadelphia: 1984.</p>
<p>Assis, Yom Tov. The Jews of Santa Coloma de Queralt. Jerusalem: 1988.</p>
<p>Baer, Yitzhak. A History of the Jews in Christian Spain. 2 vols. Philadelphia: 1961, 1966, 1992.</p>
<p>Beinart, Haim. Trujillo: A Jewish Community in Extremadura on the Eve of the Expulsion from Spain. Jerusalem: 1980.</p>
<p>Burns, Robert I. Jews in the Notarial Culture: Latinate Wills in Mediterranean Spain, 1250–1350. Berkeley: 1996.</p>
<p>Dillard, Heath. Daughters of the Reconquest: Women in Castilian Town Society, 1100–1300. Cambridge: 1984.</p>
<p>Grossman, Avraham. Pious and Rebellious: Jewish Women in Europe in the Middle Ages (Hebrew). Jerusalem: 2001.</p>
<p>Hinojosa Montalvo, José. The Jews of the Kingdom of Valencia. Jerusalem: 1993.</p>
<p>Klein, Elka. Power and Patrimony: the Jewish Community of Barcelona, 1050–1250. Ph.D. Dissertation, Harvard University: 1996.</p>
<p>Lamdan, Ruth. A Separate People: Jewish Women in Palestine, Syria and Egypt in the Sixteenth Century. Leiden: 2000.</p>
<p>Leroy, Beatriz. The Jews of Navarre in the Late Middle Ages. Jerusalem: 1985.</p>
<p>Levine Melammed, Renée. Heretics or Daughters of Israel: The Crypto-Jewish Women of Castile. New York: 1999.</p>
<p>Mirrer, Louise. Women, Jews and Muslims in the Texts of Reconquest Castile. Ann Arbor: 1996.</p>
<p>Regne, Jean. History of the Jews in Aragon. Jerusalem: 1978.</p>
<p>Roth, Cecil. Doña Gracia of the House of Nasi. Philadelphia: 1977.</p>
<p>Winer, Rebecca. Women, Wealth and Community: Christian, Jewish and<br />
Muslim Women in Thirteenth-Century Aragon. Aldershot, England: 2003.<br />
Articles</p>
<p>Assaf, Simha. “The Anusim of Spain and Portugal in the Responsa Literature” (Hebrew). Me’assef Zion 5 (1933): 19–60.</p>
<p>Assis, Yom Tov. “The ‘Ordinance of Rabbenu Gershom’ and Polygamous Marriages in Spain” (Hebrew). Zion 46 (1981): 251–277.</p>
<p>Assis, Yom Tov. “Sexual Behaviour in Mediaeval Hispano-Jewish<br />
Society.” Jewish History: Essays in Honour of Chimen Abramsky, edited by<br />
 Ada Rapoport Albert and Steven J. Zipperstein, 25–59. London: 1988.</p>
<p>Beinart, Haim. “Judios y conversos en Casarrubios del Monte.”<br />
Homenaje a Juan Prado: Miscelánea de estudios biblicos y hebraicos, ed.<br />
L. Alvarez Verdes, 645–657. Madrid: 1975.</p>
<p>Beinart, Haim. “Herrera: Its Conversos and Jews” (Hebrew).<br />
Proceedings of the Seventh World Congress of Jewish Studies B, 53–85.<br />
Jerusalem: 1981.</p>
<p>Bellamy, James A. “Qasmuna the Poetess: Who was She?” Journal of the American Oriental Society 103.2 (1983): 423–424.</p>
<p>Cardoner Planas, A. “Seis mujeres hebreas practicando la medicina en el reino de Aragon.” Sefarad 9 (1949): 442–443.</p>
<p>Fleisher, Ezra. “About Dunash ben Labrat and his Wife and Son.”<br />
Jerusalem Studies in Hebrew Literature (Hebrew) 5 (1984): 189–202.</p>
<p>Grossman, Avraham. “From the Heritage of Spanish Jewry: Treatment of<br />
the ‘Killer’ Wife in the Middle Ages” (Hebrew). Tarbiz 67:4 (1998):<br />
531–561.</p>
<p>Klein, Elka. “Protecting the Widow and the Orphan: a Case Study from Thirteenth-Century Barcelona.” Mosaic 14 (1993): 65–81.</p>
<p>Klein, Elka. “The Widow’s Portion: Law, Custom and Marital Property among Medieval Catalan Jews.” Viator 31 (2000): 147–163.</p>
<p>Kraemer, Joel L. “Spanish Ladies from the Cairo Genizah.” Mediterranean Historical Review 6 (1991): 237–266.</p>
<p>Nichols, James Manfield. “The Arabic Verses of Qasmuna Bint Isma’il<br />
Ibn Bagdalah.” International Journal of Middle East Studies 13 (1981):<br />
155–158.</p>
<p>Orfali, Moisés. “Influencia de las sociedades cristiana y musulmana<br />
en la condición de la mujer judía.” Árabes, judías y cristianas: Mujeres<br />
 en la Europa medieval, ed. Celia del Moral, 77–89. Granada: 1993.</p>
<p>Levine Melammed, Renée. “Sephardi Women in the Medieval and Early<br />
Modern Periods.” Jewish Women in Historical Perspective, ed. Judith R.<br />
Baskin, 128–147. Detroit: 1999 (2nd ed.).</p>
<p>Winer, Rebecca. “Family, Community, and Motherhood: Caring for<br />
Fatherless Children in the Jewish Community of Thirteenth-Century<br />
Perpignan.” Jewish History 16:1 (2002): 15–48.</p>
<p>Yahalom, Yosef. “The Manyo Letters: The Handiwork of a Country Scribe from North Spain” (Hebrew). Sefunot 7 (1999): 23–33.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nobody suggested the Inquisition was intended to convert anyone; it was intended to ensure that those who had converted remained converted, and sincerely so. 

 
So you lifted your bibliography from a web site that had lifted it from an article on Jewish women in Spain; not an improvement.  Bottom line:  you never read those articles, you didn&#039;t do the research.  It doesn&#039;t really matter who you plagiarized, or what the second-order borrower did, the upshot is that you were intellectually dishonest.  Shame on you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody suggested the Inquisition was intended to convert anyone; it was intended to ensure that those who had converted remained converted, and sincerely so. </p>
<p>So you lifted your bibliography from a web site that had lifted it from an article on Jewish women in Spain; not an improvement.  Bottom line:  you never read those articles, you didn&#8217;t do the research.  It doesn&#8217;t really matter who you plagiarized, or what the second-order borrower did, the upshot is that you were intellectually dishonest.  Shame on you.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wrong. It was set out by someone else under the heading of the Jewish Inquisition in Spain, on a Spanish Facebook group website, a few years back. These are the links they had provided.


And your original premise is wrong, as well: the Inquisition was NOT created to convert Jews and Muslims (or anyone else) to Christianity, it was created to test and expose those remaining &quot;occulted,&quot; hidden muslims who hadn&#039;t left, and who were pretending to be Christians.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong. It was set out by someone else under the heading of the Jewish Inquisition in Spain, on a Spanish Facebook group website, a few years back. These are the links they had provided.</p>
<p>And your original premise is wrong, as well: the Inquisition was NOT created to convert Jews and Muslims (or anyone else) to Christianity, it was created to test and expose those remaining &#8220;occulted,&#8221; hidden muslims who hadn&#8217;t left, and who were pretending to be Christians.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The identical list of citations, down to the selection of pages?  I don&#039;t think so.  The key point here is that you didn&#039;t do your own research, you simply copied a bibliography from another author - and, what&#039;s more, you copied a tangential bibliography, most of the constituent elements of which are not related to your thesis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The identical list of citations, down to the selection of pages?  I don&#8217;t think so.  The key point here is that you didn&#8217;t do your own research, you simply copied a bibliography from another author &#8211; and, what&#8217;s more, you copied a tangential bibliography, most of the constituent elements of which are not related to your thesis.</p>
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