MPAC-Linked All Saints Church: ‘Evangelical Zionism’ Is ‘Evil’


On December 15, All Saints Episcopal Church of Pasadena hosted the annual convention of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, a group with Muslim Brotherhood origins and a controversial past. The question of why All Saints would collaborate with this specific group persisted. The answer came during the event when Reverend Ed Bacon listed “acts of evil” committed by Christians and included “evangelical Zionism.”

The first hint of a political objective behind this interfaith gathering came during a December 6 press conference. Salam al-Marayati, the president of the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC), said that his organization seeks to help the U.S. act as an “honest broker” for peace in the Middle East. This is a soft way of saying that the U.S. must take a tough stand towards Israel, as evidenced by MPAC’s record of anti-Israel activism. The All Saints Episcopal Church leadership was standing with him.

During the opening session, Reverend Ed Bacon talks of his “heartbreaking” visit to the Gaza Strip in 2002, where he visited the “Red Crescent Society” and met with its leader. Presumably, he was referring to the Palestine Red Crescent Society, an anti-Israel humanitarian group that accuses Israel of “continuous targeting of civilians and their properties and hampering the access of medical personnel and ambulances to casualties.”

In a later session, Bacon said that he’d speak about problems in his own religion’s past. He said “the history of Christianity is littered with acts of evil.” He mentioned the Crusades, slavery, the Jim Crow laws, Islamophobia and “evangelical Zionism, where Christian right-wing evangelicals are paying for the growth of settlements in the West Bank.” He claimed that there are “an awful lot of people who are paid by the industry of fear.”

Al-Marayati said at the convention that MPAC has worked with All Saints Church since 1990. This means that the partnership was not severed when al-Marayati said in 1999 that Hezbollah’s attacks on Israeli soldiers is “legitimate resistance” and MPAC founder and senior adviser Maher Hathout’s 1998 statement that Hezbollah is fighting for “an American value—freedom and liberty.”

In 1999, MPAC said that Hezbollah’s bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks in Lebanon in 1983 “was not, in a strict sense, a terrorist operation” and was “exactly the kind of attack that Americans might have lauded had it been directed against Washington’s enemies.” In 2006, MPAC said it “completely deplore[s] the attack” but was pointing out a “highly relevant fact.”

In 2003, though, MPAC opposed the designation of Hamas and Hezbollah as terrorist groups and suggested it was “based on political considerations.” Former MPAC Political Adviser, Mahdi Bray, has a history of extremist rhetoric and went to Egypt in February 2008 to stand in solidarity with prosecuted Muslim Brotherhood members.

The MPAC-All Saints partnership withstood Maher Hathout’s speech in October 2000 where he said, “Israel is an apartheid state against every fiber of the modern world” and referred to it as “butchers.” He predicted that the Arab governments “will be flushed down in the cesspools of history of treason” by a “general intifada.” He later said he regretted the “harshness of my remarks” but stands by them.

On May 30, 2010, Sandy Tolan, who argues that the U.S. “must stop sanctioning Israeli impunity,” spoke at All Saints about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He writes that Israel’s psychology is “’never again’ gone mad.” He argues that Israel’s security measures are an excuse to “incrementally take and hold ever more of the land.” He even believes that the sharp drop in suicide bombings since Israel implemented these measures is only because Palestinians have changed their mind about the tactic.

When I criticized All Saints for hosting the MPAC convention in an article at FrontPage Magazine, they saw an opportunity to generate favorable publicity. A press conference was held on December 6 about the attacks of “right-wing extremists.” They made it sound like the church was drowning in “hate mail.” Enormous media coverage followed.

How much “hate mail” did All Saints actually receive? The church reported receiving “nearly 30.” It said that many were too vile to quote from but of the quotes that were disclosed, some weren’t actually hateful.

One example of “hate mail” said, “The problem is that by providing cover and legitimacy to an organization dedicated to overthrowing the Constitution, and substituting Sharia law therefore, you endanger my country and my grandsons’ future.” Another “hate mail” told the church to not “be gullible suckers.” This is what the New York Times called a “barrage of hate mail.”

A parade of officials praised MPAC, including Senator Dianne Feinstein, Rep. Janice Hahn, Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard, Rep. Adam B. Schiff and Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa. Assistant Attorney General Tom Perez sent a recorded message. Rep. Mike Honda delivered the keynote speech and Rep. Janice Hahn also spoke, even though I provided their offices with my original article. Absent was Rep. Brad Sherman, who confronted MPAC over its record in 2008.

The conference speakers repeatedly bashed their critics as bigots. Al-Marayati said they are “political extremists in America that cannot see Muslims as basically normal people” and oppose MPAC because they have a “litmus test” on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Hathout said that the critics think they “own” America and oppose diversity.

To be fair, MPAC’s leaders did present an anti-Islamist message. Hathout said that “we don’t want to enforce Sharia anywhere” and that Sharia’s penal code was developed 300 years after Islam’s birth and is not suitable for today. He said Muslims must choose a system of governance based on freedom, not coercion and “chase out the ideology of death.”

Hathout said he opposes criminalizing speech against Islam. MPAC also says it supports Israel’s right to exist, though Hathout’s 2000 speech calls that into question. Al-Marayati had a similar message, but implied that Muslim-Americans are second-class citizens when he said that the U.S. could become the first country in the West where Muslims are “full and equal citizens.”

However, the rebuttals were lacking. Hathout said he was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt 60 years ago when it was fighting against the British and Nasser. He didn’t mention what they were fighting for, which is an Islamic state. In the press conference, he said he is “proud” of his time in the Brotherhood and reiterated at the convention that he has “nothing to regret or to apologize for.”

In a radio interview, Hathout criticized Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi’s power grab as an “imminent” threat but called him “sincere” and said he has “a sense of respect for the [Brotherhood] party.” In 2010, an MPAC policy paper referred to the Brotherhood as a “conservative” group that can promote non-violence. When I urged MPAC to take an active stance against the Brotherhood in a radio interview on December 5, al-Marayati called it a “ridiculous suggestion” that is “not worth our time.”

Hathout said at the convention that he came to America with the objective of “sharing the gifts of Islam as much as I can.” His late brother, Hassan, provided more insight in 1997. He said they came to the U.S. to start the “Islamic Movement” inspired by Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna, of whom he was a “close disciple.”

The reason was because “this current civilization harbors in its body the seeds of its own destruction.” The language is similar to that of an internal U.S. Muslim Brotherhood memo from 1991 that said its “Civilization-Jihad” is a “kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within.”

Maher Hathout said he has had no ties to any foreign groups since arriving in the U.S. However, a 1989 U.S. Muslim Brotherhood Financial Committee document talks about working with a person named Hathout “in the field.” This may be a reference to his brother, but he was also an MPAC founder and president. Maher Hathout was still promoting  Hassan al-Banna as a “reformer” in 1997, as well as Islamists Hasan al-Turabi and Rachid Ghannouchi, the latter of which spoke at an MPAC event in 2011.

Hathout mocked my concern that the Islamic Center of Southern California, which he founded and is still a spokesman for, has books by Brotherhood spiritual leader Sheikh Qaradawi. A bibliography on its website lists him and other Islamist authors. He said it was the “funniest” criticism. His answer was, “So what? You want censorship?” He compared it to how schools have books by Marx and Hitler.

The All Saints-MPAC bond is not solely based in a desire for improved Christian-Muslim relations. There is a political objective of undermining support for Israel.

This article was sponsored by the Institute on Religion and Democracy.

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  • κατεργάζομαι

    The Muslims have a saying: "First [destroy] the Saturday People (Jews)… then the Sunday People (Christians)."

    What the Bible tells us about Fellowship with Muslims- 2 Corinthians 6:14 .
    " Do not be yoked together with unbelievers.
    "For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common?
    "Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?
    ~ NIV
    - – - – -
    GOD says: "Those Who Bless Her (Israel) Will Be Blessed, And Those Who Curse Her Will Be Cursed " (Genesis 12:2-3)

    amen.

    • http://www.adinakutnicki.com AdinaK

      Leftists (their 'liberal' Churches at the forefront) are joined at the hip with the likes of MPAC, hence, it makes total sense for them to march in lockstep.

      Again, the red/green alliance rears its dangerous head, baring its hateful fangs in the process -http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/09/09/shariah-law-enforcers-continue-unimpeded-westerners-terrified-to-counter-them-the-redgreen-alliance-assures-their-eventual-western-triumph-if-not-stopped-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/

      And the likes of these so called religious leaders are actually championing those whose ultimate goals are the destruction of the Saturday AND Sunday people. But to leftists (regardless of their religious garb), this is not a problem. Leftism IS their religion!
      Adina Kutnicki, Israel – http://www.adinakutnicki.com/about/

    • Mr. Polly

      Zionists love this fabricated Genesis "quote."

      • stern

        Have you checked your bible lately? Nothing "fabricated" about this quote, nor about its accuracy. Check your history too and you will find that any nation that chose to persecute its Jews eventually paid for it.

        • κατεργάζομαι

          RE: "Check your history too and you will find that any nation that chose to persecute its Jews eventually paid for it. "

          Exactly! I am so frustrated that I can't locate my resources and vast lists to support your comment because it is truly attention getting for the non-secular, or non-Replacement reader. Koenig also had a running tally of bad events in the U.S. that coinsided with Condi Rice's backroom negotions with the Palestinians to undercut Israel.

          Things like the Granada an Edict of Expulsion that was issued against the Jews of Spain by Ferdinand and Isabella (March 31, 1492). It ordered all Jews of whatever age to leave the kingdom by the last day of July (one day before Tisha B'Av).

      • κατεργάζομαι

        Here it is in context from another translation-
        Genesis 12:2-3
        King James Version (KJV)
        2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:

        3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

        The KJV has its roots in the Septuagint, the remarkable translation of the Old Testament into Greek, – The name derives from the tradition that it was made by seventy (or seventy-two) Jewish scholars at Alexandria, Egypt during the reign of Ptolemy Philadelphus (285-247 B.C.).

        It was completed in Koine (from κοινή "common", also known as " Alexandrian dialect", about 300 years before the NT (also called "gutter Greek" it was the universal language of the day.

        The Jews upheld the Septuagint very strongly for the first 300 years as the Word of God.
        - – - – - –
        Here is a link for the Original Hebrew keyed to Strongs
        http://interlinearbible.org/genesis/12-2.htm

        • Mr. Polly

          "Thee" in the above quote refers to Abraham. If you think it's clear that Abraham "includes" Israel, then why not reproduce the passage without changing "thee" to "Her" and adding "Israel" in parentheses?

        • Mr. Polly

          "Thee" in the quote refers to Abraham. If you think it's clear that Abraham EQUATES to "Israel," then why change "thee" to "Her" followed by "Israel" in parentheses when reproducing the passage?

      • HoR_Emperor

        Schlomo? That you?

        Regardless, you're an anti-Semitic scumbag.

      • Mary Sue

        Parrot, get your facts straight. That quote is there, it's accurate, and it was said to Abraham.

        • Mr. Polly

          I didn't know Abraham was transgendered.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The false prophet muhammed was into young boys – 72 virgin boys as a reward for killing.

        • Mr. Polly

          Mary Sue, Abraham is not Israel and I am not a bird.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Of course you are not a bird. You're a turd.

    • Mr. Polly

      Zionists love this fabricated Genesis "quote."

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Happy Eternal Nakba!

        May all your pals jihads turn into personal Nakbas for you and them.

    • Ghostwriter

      So sayeth,the piece of Jew hating filth,Mr. Polly.

      • Mr. Polly

        Ad hominem is all you do, Ghostwriter. However, I will not descend to your level.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          True, You will descend to osama bin ladens level – Hell.

    • Liz

      He's a communist not a Christian. Yuri the former KGB agent taught us the plan is to replace Churches with fake institutions and the West is littered with these fake churches. Westboro Baptist, focusing on anti war protests, the Episcopal church is focused on same sex marriage and hate Israel, UCC (Obummer's church) is the worst one of all.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fQoGMtE0EY

    • Cretien

      and non believers hate the truth

  • κατεργάζομαι

    "The land of Israel belongs to God, and He has decided to give it to the Jewish nation,
    in accordance with the covenant sealed on Mount Sinai, a covenant that no other nation
    was willing to undertake.

    " After a long exile, we've returned home. We bear no malice toward anyone
    and seek no harm to anyone.

    "But we will not surrender any portion of our land to foreign powers,
    and if foreigners rise up against us to destroy us, we will fight against them and,
    with God's help, we will destroy them."

    ~ Martin Wasserman

  • κατεργάζομαι

    With groups like MPAC is it any wonder that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world?

    – One out of every five people in the world is now a Muslim! – One out of every three babies born in the world today are Muslim. – Apparently the Muslims can still breed with a vengeance much faster than they can purge each other off the planet.

    • kafir4life

      So what you’re saying is that 4 out of 5 people in the world are not muslim? And 2 out of 3 babies born in the world today aren’t muslim?

      • κατεργάζομαι

        Knesset's 13 (?) Arab members now function as a psychological fifth column, openly backing Israel's enemies.

        KACH was the Zionist political party and ideological movement founded by the late Rabbi Meir Kahane. It called for the transfer of Israel's Arab population to Arab (or other) lands.

        This would have completed the population exchange begun in the late1940s when the Arab countries EXPELLED their 850,000+ Jewish residents to Israel. Incredibly the same "liberal" Knesset which still allows Israeli Arab nationalist parties (which openly call for a replacement of Israel with an Arab state) banned Kahane and his democratically elected KACH party!

        They called Kahane a "racist" because he truly believed Israel should be a JEWISH homeland… how dare he be so racist!

  • RedWhiteAndJew

    Hathout mocked my concern that the Islamic Center of Southern California, which he founded and is still a spokesman for, has books by Brotherhood spiritual leader Sheikh Qaradawi. A bibliography on its website lists him and other Islamist authors. He said it was the “funniest” criticism. His answer was, “So what? You want censorship?” He compared it to how schools have books by Marx and Hitler.

    A startling admission. Qaradawi like Hitler? You know, he's right!

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "So what? You want censorship?”

      As if not feting Islamic supremacists would be censorship. "There are only two choices," said the liar. These people are just disgusting.

  • Mary Sue

    The idiots from the Episcopalian church wouldn't know evil if it bit them on the backside.

    • Boo

      Actually I suspect they would enjoy getting bit on the backside by evil- they're rather masochistic.

    • JacksonPearson

      Jesus said we must forgive our enemies, but I don't recall him mentioning to break bread with them!

    • midwestnorwegian

      Actually, they would….for they ARE evil.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    On December 15, All Saints Episcopal Church of Pasadena hosted the annual convention of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, a group with Muslim Brotherhood origins and a controversial past. The question of why All Saints would collaborate with this specific group persisted. The answer came during the event when Reverend Ed Bacon listed “acts of evil” committed by Christians and included “evangelical Zionism.”

    Dhimmi cowards don't even seem to realize the commandments they disobey when they cower so easily before tyrants and sell out innocent people because they're an easy target.

    • Sigi

      Liberal main-line churches like the Episcopalians believe that the values of modern-day society have greater weight in determining right and wrong than do any scriptures; so they don't take study of the latter seriously.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    "Salam al-Marayati, the president of the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC), said that his organization seeks to help the U.S. act as an “honest broker” for peace in the Middle East."

    If the USA had been an honest broker, we'd have killed all the Palestinian militants more than a decade before the Oslo Accords facade. Now the phrase is code for a-holes like 0'Bama when they want to imply that there tyranny is really all about being "honest." That's rich.

  • john spielman

    the Episcopalian church IS evil, thankfully it is dying quickly but their malevolent ideas aren't.

  • 58trojan23

    I remind the anti Crusade people that centuries before the first crusade the Arab Islamists were invading Europe with the intent to conquer Europe and make it Muslim.

  • Omar

    Zionism is not evil. Zionism is simply a movement to establish a Jewish state in the Holy Land where Jews have lived there continuously for over 3000 years. Islamism, on the other hand, calls for world domination and totalitarianism. Why aren't there any protests from the All-Saints Church against Islamism?

  • Chanameel

    Christians should be reminded from time to time that –

    Jesus was a Very Orthodox Jew and a Master Kabbalist in Healing.

    John the Baptist was a Very Orthodox Jew and Master Kabblist in "Mikveh" or "Baptism."

    Isn't it interesting that Muslims regard "Jesus" as a prophet ???

    I guess their Imam's never told them that that he was a "Jew."

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "I guess their Imam's never told them that that he was a "Jew.""

      They lie and claim he was a Muslim, like all prophets they acknowledge. Furthermore, they claim there were truly Islamic Jews and Islamic Christians. These groups simply represent ethnic groups of Muslims but today's religious Christians and Jews are "corrupted." This is what give them a built-in pretext for withdrawing supposed "protection" as dhimmis and killing them as any other non-compliant moon god worshiper. They simply remind others that you're not one of the "Islamic Christians" or "Islamic Jews" and kill you and anyone around you.

      This is also how Muslims justify posing as Christians because they go through the motions like 0'Bama but the whole time their reciting the lies of Islam to themselves and claiming to be "(Islamic) Christians." They simply remove inconvenient words from their rhetoric to go along with the outright lies in order to deceive you completely.

      It's never what you think when you hear them speak.

    • Mr. Polly

      Jesus "a Very Orthodox Jew and Master Kabbalist"? From what mysterious Secret Source do you get this "information," unknown to anyone else? Is it Madame Blavatsky or perhaps Madonna?

  • Parenthetical Phrase

    It is interesting that of all the "evil acts" Rev. Bacon refers to in his speech, none includes the historical anti-Semitism of Christianity. It's like it never existed. History and current events tell me otherwise. I used to think that we were at an amazing point in our history: Christians and Jews joining in the effort to destroy Jihad and Muslim supremacy of the West and the destruction of Israel. Not so. Only a small minority of Christians will join with Jews, and there will be many Jews even who work towards their own demise. All of this is not new; it has happened many times. We must now remember that it is not the label of faith which determines who we are but rather our thoughts and actions as individuals. That is how we shall define our lives and how we shall be judged.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "It is interesting that of all the "evil acts" Rev. Bacon refers to in his speech, none includes the historical anti-Semitism of Christianity. "

      Cultural Christianity. Obviously Christians can't be anti-Semitic. It's like talking about the criticisms of the Pharisees to condemn the entire Bible. It's wrong to attack Christians or Jews collectively based on what deviants have done. If you want to criticize the ideology by using behavior as an example, you need to connect the two.

      Criticism is more useful when it's more specific.

    • Sound&Fury

      You are correct. Church history includes a dark period during the Spanish inquisition & middle ages when it persecuted Jews. It is curious that he would neglect to mention this, but not surprising given his perverted agenda to align with Muslims.

      Bacon reminds me of King Herod, a Jew who collaborated with Caesar against his own people.

  • LindaRivera

    Innocents are called Islamophobes because they protest against the burnings of churches, the constant atrocities and mass murders of non-Muslims by Muslims in other countries. Muslims want non-Muslims to remain silent about the horrors and suffering inflicted on non-Muslim innocents.

    Innocents are called Islamophobes because they are disgusted that in America, Muslims stone our people-non-Muslims and the police REFUSE to protect non-Muslims from violent Muslim attackers:

    American Muslims Stone Christians in Dearborn, MI (Original edit) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnJBW49afzg

    Innocents are called Islamophobes because they are disgusted that Muslims in America and countries around the world and THOUSANDS of Pal. Authority Muslims CELEBRATED with great joy the cruel slaughter of our cherished 3,000 on 9/11. PA Muslims danced with great delight in the streets, passed out sweets and fired into the air. WE WILL NEVER FORGET.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "Innocents are called Islamophobes because…"

      The future must not belong to those that slander the prophet of Islam.

      • Drakken

        The future will belong to those who fight islam and all it's manifistations.

  • Drakken

    Lets call these evil people for what they are, TRAITORS! Any Quisling who openly sides with and collaborates with our enemy(islam) deserves a traitors fate, and that day is fast approaching. God may have mercy on these vile scumbags, but we won't.

  • LindaRivera

    Tommy is persecuted, punished and jailed for protesting Islamization of Britain and protesting the many thousands of gang rapes of non-Muslim British children by Muslim monsters.
    If only EDL leader, POLITICAL PRISONER, patriotic, caring human rights activist, Tommy, could be home with his family! PLEASE SIGN!

    Petition: Free Tommy Robinson! http://britishfreedom.org/petition-free-tommy-rob

  • PAthena

    See Robert Spencer, Did Muhammed
    exist?

  • LindaRivera

    EXTREMELY URGENT! Stop Spain from enforcing barbaric Islamic sharia law on an innocent man for telling the truth about Islam! Spanish leaders seek to send Imran and his family back to Pakistan to a cruel and terrible death. See: http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/01/02/letter-f

    Scroll down to: SIGN THE PETITION FOR CANADA TO GIVE REFUGEE STATUS TO IMRAN:

    Please sign! There isn’t much time left! The petition is put out by Canadian Hindu Advocacy, who are very familiar with the horrific GENOCIDE of Hindus and very severe persecution of Christians and Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh.

    NON MUSLIMS MUST HAVE HUMAN RIGHTS!

  • LibertarianToo

    Interesting that the Rev. condemns slavery as an evil of Christianity, when now it is practised almost exclusively by Muslims.

    And he skipped over the founding of his own denomination by a serial wife-killer.

  • Ghostwriter

    This Reverend Ed Bacon is a fool. I don't see Israelis screaming for the deaths of Americans. Much of the Muslim world screams for that every day.

    • Mr. Polly

      Whenever Israelis and Israeli-American dual citizens scream for another American war on a Middle Eastern country, they are effectively screaming for the deaths of Americans.

      • Drakken

        Support and defend those muslims at your own peril. History won't be kind to you and yours if you do.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        - 9/11
        - 1993 bombing of WTC
        - 1988 bombing of Pan Am 103
        - 7/7/05 bombing of London transport
        - Mumbai India massacre
        - Fort Hood massacre
        - Assassination of US Senator Robert F. Kennedy
        - Interrupted sneaker bomb plot
        - Interrupted underwear bomb plot
        - Failed Times Square bombing
        - Beslan school massacre
        - 8 year Iraq/Iran war
        - Beheading of captives
        - Somali pirates
        - Poison gas, a WMD, attack on Kurds of Halabja Iraq
        - Stoning girls to death over "family honor"
        - Current day slavery in Sudan and Mauritania

  • Jonathan

    "He claimed that there are “an awful lot of people who are paid by the industry of fear.”__I wonder where that fear could possibly come from. Could it be, numerous assassinations, it's repeated threats against Jews, it's suicide bombers, it's countless rocket attacks into Israel…etc. If they are being paid by "the industry of fear", they themselves are giving that industry plenty of currency. ____“continuous targeting of civilians and their properties and hampering the access of medical personnel and ambulances to casualties.”__If you really want to learn about the deepest and darkest evils committed by a villain, listen to his accustations against others.______"…that Hezbollah is fighting for “an American value—freedom and liberty.”__LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO THEY DIDN'T!!!!!!!!! Are they serious????? What is remotely American about Shariah law? This is an obvious hook for these useful idiots that they snowjobbed into buying into their line of bull. HELLO!!!!! What part of "we will destroy the infidel West", "We will destroy the west from within", do you not understand. ____

  • Moishe Pupick

    Th., 01/03/13 common era

    Reverend Bacon's attitude toward Islamic jihad isn't kosher. He is simply one more useful idiot, a Protestant d'himmi, that The Moslem Brotherhood is using to create a worldwide caliphate. Does he really think that his congregants and he, all "Sunday people," would be spared!?

  • Gloria Stewart

    All SaInts Church also sponsored a convention of Sabeel, a pro Palesitnian organization located in Jerusalem. Its leader, Anglican priest Naim Atek, has whitewashed Hamas in speeches and in pamphlets put out by the organization.

    All readers should be familiar with the Arabic word taqqiyah. It means sanctioned lying. When Dr. Hathout said in the afternoon panel discussion that Muslims in America accepted the Constitution as the law of the land, he was practicing taqqiyah. Dr Hathout in his various speeches has urged his followers to appear mainstream. The United States with its virtually unlimited first amendment opportunities presents a perfect venue for Muslim Brotherhood advances. He has cautioned his followers not to appear out of the mainstream and therefore be marginalized.

    Do not deludes yourselves that his goals are not identical with the stated goals of the Muslim Brotherhood.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Bacon bits is a liar and fraud, leftist's infiltrated the Episcopal Church and turned it into a
    Commie front, leftist destruction at it's peak of villiany……………William

  • FPF

    "hate mail"? It's of little credit when a hater says he is being hated. Hating evil deeds is perfectly fine with me. But I love the sinners, wishing them know the truth and the truth shall make them free.

  • JacksonPearson

    You're spamming.

  • C.R.

    Why is it that intelligent people cannot understand that just because a person claims to be something–does not make them that thing?

    The Episcopal church is a part of the Catholic church–their doctrines are not Christian–are not Christian–these people are not Christians!

    • Drakken

      The episcopal is not part of the Catholic church in any way shape or form so get your facts correct.

  • Parenthetical Phrase

    When (liberal/leftist) Christians unite with Muslims against the Jews, and by the way, never bring up the slaughter of Christians by Muslims at these little ecumenical get togethers, I have to believe that it is because they hate Jews more than they love their fellow Christians or Jesus Christ for that matter. They also never bring up the slaughter of Muslims by other Muslims. All they see as evil is Israel, the embodiment of the Jewish people. It enrages them that there are Christians who see things differently — kind of like the way Muslims often see other Muslims as “apostates” when they disagree with the jihadists. Martin Luther admonished his followers to kill the Jews and burn their synogogues because they would not convert to Christianity. I thought we were at a great new age when Christians and Jews could accept each other with our respective differences. How naive of me. To those Christians who believe the Jews have the right to protect themselves and live safely in their land, AS JEWS, I say thank you.

  • Herb Benty

    Me and all my relatives and all those around the world who are real Christians have a Bible. It has proven to be, over millenia, to be the God- breathed Word of the Almighty Creator. All true believers are "evangelical Zionists"as this simply means that the Jewish nation of Israel would exist again "in the latter days"- there is no way of getting around this plain Biblical theme. To argue against the Jewish possesion of Israel and Jerusalem( Zion) is Satanic, and NOT in the Spirit of the great " I AM".