Texas Mega-Church Leader Partners with Muslim Brotherhood Front

Ryan Mauro is a fellow with the Clarionproject.org, the founder of WorldThreats.com and a frequent national security analyst for Fox News Channel. He can be contacted at ryanmauro1986@gmail.com.


Bob RobertsOn June 9, the Clarion Project reported that the U.S. envoy to the Organization of Islamic Cooperation will be speaking at an Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) regional conference, sharing the stage with at least three Islamists. But there are some other featured guests: ISNA’s interfaith allies, including Pastor Bob Roberts of NorthWood Church in Texas.

ISNA is identified in a 1991 U.S. Muslim Brotherhood memorandum as one of its fronts. The U.S. government also listed ISNA as a U.S. Muslim Brotherhood entity when it designated the group an unindicted co-conspirator in the Hamas-financing trial of the Holy Land Foundation. The so-called “charity” was another U.S. Muslim Brotherhood entity that, in the words of Judge Jorge Solis, “operated from within ISNA.” ISNA denies it has “ever been subject to the control of…the Muslim Brotherhood.”

ISNA’s South Central Conference will be held in Dallas on June 15. The event will feature an interfaith panel that includes its Community Outreach Director, Mohamed Elsanousi, who attended a Muslim Brotherhood-linked conference in Mauritania last year.

Other participants include Rabbi Joshua S. Taub of Temple Emanuel and Cristina Warner, the Campaign Director of the Shoulder-to-Shoulder Campaign, an ISNA-allied interfaith coalition. ISNA is so proud of Shoulder-to-Shoulder that its success was a top talking point of senior officials when they met with the Islamist Prime Minister of Turkey.

The most high-profile interfaith speaker at the ISNA regional conference is Pastor Bob Roberts of NorthWood Church, a critic of “Christian Zionists.” As reported last month, Pastor Roberts’ NorthWood Church is holding its own Islamist-stocked interfaith event called the Global Faith Forum in November. Pastor Roberts’ speakers include ISNA officials, former senior Saudi officials and a former director-general of Al-Jazeera.

The Clarion Project’s original article on the event provides insight into some of the fellow speakers of Pastor Roberts, Rabbi Taub and Cristina Warner.

The keynote speaker is Dr. Jamal Badawi, who will also be on panels about Sharia and having a healthy family. His record includes praise for Hamas, “combative jihad,” and justifying the physical disciplining of wives (or, as he says, “a gentle tap on the body” for disobedience). His name also appears in a U.S. Muslim Brotherhood phonebook from 1992 and he hangs out with Brotherhood spiritual leader Yousef al-Qaradawi. The radicalism of his resume is strong enough to prompt counter-terrorism expert Patrick Poole to ask, “Why is Jamal Badawi Still Allowed into the United States?”

ISNA official Yusuf Ziya Kavakci will be handling the opening remarks, leading a prayer and joining Badawi for the panel on Sharia. He used to lead a mosque that an article in 1999 said “is considered to be one of the most active centers of Hamas activity in the United States[.]” The mosque was linked to the Holy Land Foundation, the aforementioned U.S. Muslim Brotherhood entity that was housed by ISNA and shut down for financing Hamas.

The notorious Imam Siraj Wahhaj is listed as an invited speaker at the event. His radicalism is unquestionable. He has preached that “America is the most wicked government on the face of the planet Earth.” America, he told his audience, is a “garbage can” that he prays “crumbles.” Unlike some Islamists, he doesn’t hide his desire for Sharia Law in America.

“If only Muslims were clever politically, they could take over the United States and replace its constitutional government with a caliphate. If we were united and strong, we’d elect our own emir and give allegiance to him. Take my word, if eight million Muslims unite in America, the country will come to us,” he said.

The book Muslim Mafia quotes Wahhaj even condoning violence. “We don’t need to arm the people with 9mms and Uzis. You need to arm them with righteousness first. And once you arm them with righteousness first, then you can arm them,” he said, as well as “I will never tell people, ‘Don’t be violent.’ That’s not the Islamic way.”

Wahhaj’s rhetoric lines right up with the private words of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood. The 1991 memorandum that identified ISNA as one of its fronts said its “work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within.”

Page 21 of the document states: “[W]e must possess a mastery of the art of ‘coalitions’, the art of ‘absorption’ and the principles of ‘cooperation.’” That is the context that ISNA’s interfaith alliances need to be put in.

After my last article on NorthWood Church was published, a reader emailed me to say that he posted it to the Facebook page of the church and the personal page of Pastor Roberts. It didn’t take long for it to be deleted. Ignorance is no longer an excuse.

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  • Chez

    It’s not just dhimmis like Pastor Roberts that is problematic. It is the pacific ethos promulgated by Jesus Christ…that of “loving thy enemies” and “turning the other cheek”. I grew up Christian and I certainly admire such sentiments in the abstract, but in the real world, such pacifism can be quite dangerous.

    • Kleverabevera

      Jesus Christ also said to love thy neighbor. It would not be love for me to allow a third party to abuse my neighbor. None of those verses apply to allowing predators to abuse and wreak havoc on your family or your country. They are for personal interaction.

      • John_P617

        “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy
        soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment.
        And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.” That’s what Jesus said, and it very much still applies today. Is that pacifism? Absolutely not. Does that mean that as Christians we should be accepting of our neighbour’s sin? Absolutely not. We are called to hate sin. Love the sinner, hate the sin. Call evil what it is… evil. Also, we are not supposed to congregate with those that have an “anti-christ” spirit. Those that spread a false doctrine. Pray for them, though.

    • http://libertyandculture.blogspot.com/ Jason P

      Fortunately not all Christians take that message to heart. That might have been fine in 40 AD when early Christians thought the imminent second coming meant the end was near–let’s all hug and cuttle. By 300 AD they realized that they had better learn to participate in running a government. A more muscular Christian came about circa the reign of Constantine. These are the kind you’ll find in our marines.

      But you’re right the cheek-turning enemy-loving kind are a problem. Usually they’re on the left but not always.

      • beezwaxing

        Christians were never forbidden to employ self-defense or urged to capitulate to the evil deeds or demands of non-Christians. Never. Not by Jesus, not by St. Paul, not by any of the Apostles.

    • HappyDog1

      God’s Word does not conflct with other Words in His Scriptures. The Bible is clear that sincere believers are to “come out from amongst them”. That is not a request but a directive of God.

    • IvanRider

      Those verses refer to how you interact with individuals you meet ordinarily. Let me word them so it makes more sense:

      “Don’t go hating on your rival at work. It’s a waste of time. If anything, pity him. Or be a friend to him. Then, when others see your actions, he will be put to shame for how he has treated you.”

      Also: “Don’t feel you have to repay every single insult. Sometimes, it’s better to simply walk away.”

      In no way shape or form were those verses ever intended to mean that you shouldn’t take up arms against a clear and present threat to your well-being and that of your loved ones. In Luke 22, Jesus warns his disciples to conceal-carry small swords for self-defense, as their lives will be in constant danger.

      It’s not the pacifism of Christ that’s the problem, it’s man’s warping of its meaning to rationalize man-made sentiments that’s dangerous.

      • beezwaxing

        Nothing Jesus ever said can be interpreted to mean that Jesus was a pacifist. Let’s be clear.

    • cjkcjk

      No such ethic was ever promulgated by Christ. You need to take his words in context and more importantly in thought and meditation.
      There is no way that the Jesus of the Bible would ever expect anyone to watch their neighbor being raped without acting nor to watch their whole nation suffer the same without acting.

      • Chez

        Interesting responses from many of you.

        Jesus said “love thy enemies”…he never said “love thy enemies, except those threatening your country and/or civilization”….he said “turn the other cheek”…he never said “turn the other cheek on PERSONAL matters, but fight to the death when it’s for country”…he indeed DID say “love the sinner, hate the sin”….does that mean we should continue allowing mass Muslim immigration into the USA?…because quite obviously, Muslims are the “sinners”, Islam is the “sin”.

        Folks, I have nothing but the greatest respect for Jesus and the sacrifices he made. In a perfect world, his message would work wonders. but it’s not a perfect world. I’m sorry, but I don’t want to emulate his life (and death). I don’t want to allow myself to be spat upon, scourged, and crucified. I’d prefer to go down swinging. Right or wrong, this is how I feel.

        • cjkcjk

          You once again show your lack of taking context into account. The same Jesus also physically and forcibly threw the money lenders out of the temple. That is also the same Jesus who called the Scribes and Pharisees hypocrites, hell-bound, and white washed tombs.
          Do you really think that Jesus commands us to watch our neighbors nine year old be raped?????
          If so, your Jesus is closer to Moe’s Jesus than to mine.

        • beezwaxing

          If you want to understand Scripture, go to a cleric of any Christian or Catholic denomination who has actually studied the Bible. Some have studied it in more than one language and some in ancient languages. It’s only boneheads that read the Bible and conclude that it means exactly what is written there in literal terms.

          • victoryman

            The old saying always has held true, “The more we learn, the less we know.” Particularly in reference to the Bible.

          • Chez

            Hate to say, but it reminds me a lot of Muslim apologetics. They’re always hiding behind the “problems with translation” and “taken out of context”b canards to claim the Quran doesn’t say what it actually says.

            I know this much: The overall message of Jesus was essentially and unequivocally pacific.This fact was reflected not only in his words, but in the way he died.

          • cjkcjk

            I noticed you sidestepped my points.

          • Chez

            @cjkcjk Both the examples you cite involved only moral sanction. True, Jesus overturned the tables of the money-changers, but (fortunately), this did not include physical violence against them.

            I believe the true litmus test was at the garden of Gethsemene (sic?), when Jesus explicitly told his followers not to resist his arrest (“those who live by the sword, die by the sword”). In the circumstances of the moment, it was good advice. But it is a clear expression of his pacifism.

            I struggle with this issue a lot because of my affection and admiration for Jesus Christ. His pacific teachings may actually prove in the end to be more enlightened than those of us who advocate aggressive self-defense, but I’ll never attempt to contort the reality of the Gospel and pretend that Jesus sanctioned violence.

          • All Milk

            Im afraid ckjcjk is right here bro. You need to consider the whole Gospel in its entirety. Do you know the Old Testament prophecies of the Messiah redeeming Israel and judging the nations that tried to attack Israel ends in violence? Guess who is the victor of the violence?

            “but I’ll never attempt to contort the reality of the Gospel and pretend that Jesus sanctioned violence.”

            Consider this…by suggesting that you have nailed the interpretation of Jesus’s teachings, is it possible that you have contorted the reality of the Gospel?

          • Sadie.K.

            I can only say after reading all this comments ,all of you are full of hate .Is this what Bible is teaching to judge and hate others !!What a shame!Everyone should think how to work for peace in world and making everyone friend’s not enemies.Stop hate others and pray for peace if you are a true believer.

          • All Milk

            Hate? How am I hating and who am I hating?

          • pugilist66

            All Milk-don’t worry about what Sadie is saying, because she’s just trolling. She doesn’t understand the Bible or hate. She is ignorant and preaches ignorance.

          • All Milk

            No worries dude. I just like trolling the trolls. If you troll them properly they will stop.

          • James

            God hates sin. Sin is evil. Jesus Christ is God. When God humbled Himself as Jesus Christ, and became human, He came to save the world. Jesus became the sacrifice of mankind. By the blood of Christ and our belief in Him are we saved. Those speaking unknowingly of Christ the pacifist are deeply mistaken. Again the purpose of God manifesting Himself to His creation as the Living Christ was to show us Love, perfection, humility and forgiveness. Jesus said “he that is not with me is against me Matt 12:30, Luke 11:23″. The Revelation given to John will soon come to pass. Jesus Christ is no pacifist. His tongue is a two-edged sword. Jesus Christ that you claim is a pacifist will utterly destroy all evil and bound Satan for 1,000 years. Jesus Christ will abide His Kingdom on His restored earth for those 1,000 years.

          • cjkcjk

            He made a whip.
            You don’t know what you’re talking about.
            Your Jesus demands that I sit and watch my neighbor’s child being raped before my eyes when I could stop it.
            You don’t know who you’re talking about.

          • Stephen Sponsler

            Jesus could have said this with far reaching implications, but also Paul said to do this in order to ‘pile heaping coals’ on them , to cause them to feel convicted by relentless forgiveness (love). This could also mean that by them not responding in like kind then the end all of ends all is that they have just convicted themselves regardless of whether or not we live or die in the physical, which becomes irrelevant in terms of eternity nor was that what Jesus meant by that phrase…. for no greater love is this, when a man lays down his life for his brother. On the other hand, Jesus never said to lay down your life for those who have a propensity to escalate evil because He already did it. It comes down to who are my enemies vs. who is evil.? There is no clear cut definition as only God knows our true hearts. Forget that the Koran actually okays Lying to protect the faith and that Allah is the Greatest Schemer.?

        • http://palestinename.com Beth

          @ Chez: Jesus chased them with whips – calling them hypocrites, snakes and fools:

          Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother ”””””’WITHOUT A CAUSE””””’ shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

          The NIV took those words (“without a cause”) out of that Scripture. (It makes no different to me when it comes to the argument of which Bible is better – I’m only stating a fact). This is most likely the very reason why there is so much confusion on the subject.

        • Jim T

          Chez, I can totally relate on how you feel. The difference between us (mankind) and Jesus is , His father is the Holy Spirit of God, ours wasn’t. Which makes us 100% mankind with Gods help and support in a spiritual and physical way. When it came right down to it, If an enemy such as mentioned here in this article came swinging a machettie or pointing a gun to my head for my faith in Jesus , first i would pray fast and hard for Gods help to hold this man off , then I would show my faith in Gods assistance by the strength he gives me physically and mentally to defend myself. But to just give up and lay still for the axe to swing without protest I beleive is giving in to the enemy of God , even though if I have all my ducks lined up in a row i am able to enter Heaven regardless. This may sound like I am justifying things and not trusting in Jesus’ teachings. of “turning the other cheek” kind of thing. Allowing the brotherhood to infiltrate our country is suicide wishing.

    • http://palestinename.com Beth

      Who is my enemy?

      Mic 7:6 …a man’s enemies are the men of his own house.

      Mat 10:36 And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

      Islam is not of the same house. Islam calls the Son of God an abomination and all of His witnesses (the apostles) liars.

      Jhn 10:5 And a stranger will they (true Christians) not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

      1Jo 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

      • beezwaxing

        Another point: some Muslims claim that they believe that Jesus was a prophet of God. That is itself a heresy. Jesus was never a prophet. According to Scripture and every orthodox Christian on the planet, Jesus was God incarnate, the Son of God, the Word made Flesh, or the Second Person of the Trinity. Not a prophet. To say he was a prophet is to blaspheme God and his Word.

        • http://palestinename.com Beth

          @beezwaxing:disqus ….

          Deu 18:15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me [Moses]; unto him ye shall hearken;

          Act 7:37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.

          Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. (There eleven Scriptures with the exact same phrase “sons of god” in the Bible)

          • Truth Preacher

            Joh 1:1-4

            In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

            The same was in the beginning with God.

            All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
            In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

            Joh 1:10

            He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
            Joh 1:11

            He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
            Joh 1:12

            But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
            Joh 1:13

            Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
            Joh 1:14

            And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

            Joh 3:16

            For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
            Joh 3:17

            For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

            Jesus Christ MADE ALL THINGS. Jesus Christ is the ONLY-BEGOTTEN SON. None else are. Jesus Christ made the world.

          • Stephen Sponsler

            Muslims will argue that prophet was or is Mohammed. Yet it can’t be, because the rest of the text says that if that prophets says of something that does not come to occur they will die, and Mohammed did both.. And he didn’t speak the words of God ..he spoke what was said through a supposed Gabriel.

  • Jeffrey Orr

    Hey Chez. do you know who Jesus is? Jesus is all knowing God. But your smarter than him? haha What a joke.

    • Chez

      Nope. I’m just a guy with an opinion. I may be right, I may be wrong. But I find it fascinating how so many of the replies on this thread included qualifiers that Jesus never made. He never said “love thy enemies, except those threatening your country and/or civilization”….he never said “turn the other cheek on PERSONAL matters, but fight with fervor when it’s political.”

      And Jeffrey, as for Jesus being “all knowing God,” that’s an opinion. It may be true, but it’s an article of faith, not an established fact.

      • beezwaxing

        You are taking quotations by others out of context, even if those others have themselves taken them out of context.

      • Jeffrey Orr

        Chez, you can know Jesus is God. He said, I will manifest myself to you. That is something the world doesn’t understand but Bible based Christians do. Three in Heaven, Father, Son, Holy Ghost.

  • geneww1938

    Not every church is Biblical! Not ever person called a Christian is “Christ like” and believes what a Biblical person believes.

    Being a Church member and doing your best to ‘do church’ does not make you a member of “God’s Church” any more than living and sleeping in a garage make you a car!

    If you do not have 100% absolute confidence and knowledge that you will spend eternity in heaven then you should find a Bible teaching church and ask “how can I have absolute assurance of salvation”?

  • sickofitall

    not all satanists are terrorists

    some satanists are moderates and dont want to behead your children

    thus you may not oppose satanists lest ye be called racist bigots

    • beezwaxing

      lol

  • Penny Haulman

    JESUS is Lord. Turning the other cheek is miss taught. Jesus said turn back to the other the cheek(attitude) that other is presenting. Time for the Folden Rule folks. ‘Do Unto others what they are doing to someone else’; there are no blessings for a people or two people that sacrifice their children to the fire, i. e. suicide bombing and abortion. Remember what to Hate. God hates evil doings.

    • Blake hitler

      love the sinner, not the sin (islam)

  • Penny Haulman

    Jehovih does not direct us to pray for HIS enemies. HE himself will come up against them. We are to pray for our own enemies. There is a Universe of difference here in this. Universe=Oneverse. Divorce=twoVoices. Be sure Jehovih, Great Spirit does not divorce us for praying for HIS enemy. Stop digging when you are in a hole; can’t get out!!

  • Jim T

    If any Paster or preacher of any Christian church thinks teaming up with any Muslim extremist group such as the muslim brotherhood or other and think all is well is only fooling themselves. This Paster mentioned here has sold himself and his congregation out to the enemy of Christians and Christianity in a whole. Bringing these groups into the USA is not only a bad thing , but will bring massive bloodshed to the Americans. Kick them out now and stop this deadly virus before it mass produces beyond control. This is a warning to all of North America.

    • sherwool

      Jim, while I am sympathetic to your position, I don’t know that I agree. Certainly Christians need to be aware of the hazards and the duplicity with which they will undoubtedly encounter when speaking with the likes of the Muslim Brotherhood. I’m not sure that means they should decline to talk- person to person contacts are vitally important, even with people with whom you have strong disagreement.

      What better example can I offer than that the government of Israel negotiates with the PLO.

      • john spielman

        what this so called Christian pastor is doing is trying to mix Satan(Islam) and Christ. Jesus warns us about this. we are not to call evil good nor good evil for evil is what islam is and Christ Jesus is the light and life and savior of the world while Islam is darkness death and hell to those who follow it. The light (Jesus) has nothing in common with darkness except that the Light has and will overcome it.

      • Drakken

        You do not compromise with evil period, I don’t know what kind of fuzzy logic your following, but to try and get along to go along with our enemies is suicide. It is important to take a stand period, anything else is surrender.

      • beezwaxing

        The MB is an evil organization. No one should be deceived by the MB. No negotiation is possible with wolfy. This preacher is a FOOL.

        • victoryman

          Again, follow the money.

      • victoryman

        Israel negotiates from a position of strength. The lapdogs attending this “Conference” are useful idiots whose throats their smiling guests would slit with pleasure. Fools.

      • rickmcknight

        You don’t negotiate with people who have your destruction in mind! We negotiated with Japan..what was the result? Pearl Harbor!!!!!!!

      • Diana51

        These bad Christians today are everywhere, in dominance today, and fighting among themselves over which one is more right. The truth is that they are both completely wrong, in any way that matters, because they are both part of the very same violent rebellion against God. They both have their backs turned to God, on the highway to hell, going away from God and Christ and leading whole nations to destruction. The only difference between the Christians, Jews, Sadducee and Pharisee, is that one is on the left side of the broad road to destruction, which Jesus speaks of, and the other is on the right side of the road.

        These people, under the world system’s control, God calls His sworn enemies, because they program us as children, each generation of children, to happily, obliviously, go to our destruction. Of coarse no person is ultimately behind the evil but are being controlled and programed by it.

        Those who are controlled by evil are deceptive, violent people. That is how you know them. God describes them over and over throughout the scriptures. They never stop deceiving and violating.

    • beezwaxing

      I think Christians call that “deceived.” He is deceived.

      • Diana51

        No one proclaiming the name of Jesus would do this. He’s not a Christian.

    • victoryman

      I am concerned that referencing “Pastor” Bob and his ilk, we have a case of “Follow the money?”

    • Robert48

      You mean like those Wahabbists Sunni’s in the Arabian Peninsula that the US govt has been supporting since WW2 ended? Those Muslim extremists you mean? They are the only Muslim group in the world promoting violent Jihad! Do your research! It’s a fact that it is Sunni Wahabbists which are the only extreme violent group practicing a twisted form of Islam who are dedicated to violence! But hey, it’s the US govt through the Arabian Peninsula govts providing training and arms to all those Sunni terrorist groups! through out the middle east and eastern Europe!

    • Kurt Glover

      I agree Jim. My question is; why are we not leading the Muslim faith to Christianity itself? We Christians need to be bold and proclaim Jesus as our Messiah and not just a good prophet.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kate.curry.3950 Kate Curry

    Prophesy has told us that there will be a remnant at the end of time. Satan’s success in subverting organized religion should not surprise us. It does, of course, but I’m confident that God is not surprised. Therefore, I only pray for courage to confront when I must and strength to remain faithful unto death, for the sake of my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. It is very difficult, though, I must say, to be angry and sin not.

  • reconrambo

    Birds of a feather, flock together. All these mentioned groups are enemies of God the Father, his son Jesus Christ, the true Church and Israel, including the Jews. They are followers of their father Satan.

    ReconRambo

  • HappyDog1

    Pastor Bob Roberts is shaking his fist in the face of God and will endure strong wrath because of it. Criticizing “Christian Zionists” is an afront to God’s eternal Word. He has bit down on the world’s message – Satanic leading – by becoming a part of the Great Falling Away. Jesus will come for the true church, but Bob Roberts will be left asleep with jaw wide open in astonishment.

    • beezwaxing

      It appears to me this man is seeking political power by drawing attention to himself. In any case, he’s either deceived or a deceiver. If the former, he and those who follow him will be greatly chastened. If the latter, he will be caste into the eternal pit.

  • The Dead Critic

    Fake church leader. It’s one thing to state that Muslim’s are following a False Religion False Prophet, and pray for their salvation, it’s another to team up with them. This church leader needs to take a step back and gather himself spiritually.

    Side note:

    Just received a letter from the organization of the Separation of Church and State. Inside was a form letter asking me to BASICALLY report all person(s) who talk about religion in a public environment. That means your neighbor, boss, teacher, or even politician. They want to gather a data base it would appear on these so-called “trouble makers.”

    I filled it out with the following attached comment:

    “This isn’t Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia fools!” This is the united States of America!”

    What a bunch of paranoid losers…..

  • twinelm

    Well somebody has a nice hot spot waiting for him…

  • IvanRider

    A Texas “church” partnering with the Muslim Brotherhood is akin to Orthanc aligning with Barad-dûr. If Bob “Saruman” Roberts thinks partnership with the Brotherhood of Evil Muslims will lead to anything good at all, his mind is severely corrupted and his heart deceived.

  • peterperez1976

    Apostate Church !

  • PouponMarks

    Follow the money. Right now, the Pastool Roberts’ pockets are bulging with dough. Another American institution bought and sold by Wahhabi money.

    Jesus weeps.

    • victoryman

      Churches are no longer churches. They have become places of entertainment, salesmanship and profit centers. The congregations want to be fed pap and peppy “Tunes” on a Sunday morning – longing for the minute they can leave and head to IHOP for brunch.

  • steve

    Jesus DID have plenty to say about being a good steward over what God has blessed you with. Without a doubt that would include defending your family, home and country from evil people that would destroy it out of pure spite and hatred. But on the other hand, I do feel like End times are upon us. A one world government tied in with one world religion ruling with an iron fist. Sound like anyone we know?

  • LindaRivera

    The most high-profile interfaith speaker at the ISNA regional conference is Pastor Bob Roberts of NorthWood Church, a critic of “Christian Zionists.”

    The Bible warns repeatedly about false prophets…

    Islam will NOT be victorious! The Muslim god is the complete opposite of the HOLY ONE, the Magnificent Creator of the Universe. And it is our Awesome Creator Who will be victorious! The Glorious God of all life who declared: YOU SHALL NOT MURDER.

    The murderous Muslim plans to destroy the Jewish people and the
    Jewish Holy Land will NOT succeed. Thousands of years ago before anyone
    ever heard of Islam, God prophesied of a future time yet to come when He
    will destroy Israel’s enemies:

    Bible, Zechariah 12:9 I will set about to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

    Thousands of years ago in the Bible, God declared:

    Psalm 83 …O God do not be still. For behold Your enemies make an
    uproar And those who hate You have exalted themselves. They make shrewd
    plans against Your people, and conspire together against Your treasured
    ones. They have said, “Come, and let us wipe them out as a nation, that
    the name of Israel be remembered no more.” For they have conspired
    together with one mind; Against You they make a covenant…” End of Bible quote.

    The enemies of Israel are the enemies of Almighty God.

    • beezwaxing

      Now I get it. The man is an anti-Semite and he’s taking Saudi money.

      • victoryman

        Brief, and 100% correct.

    • Angel Nova

      Love this Bible quotes. I will use this in my post in my anti Islamic debates. Allah is a moon god, a legend that does not exist. God is Great, is True , is Present , is all Powerful, is all forgiving, is Love, is Eternity!

      • LindaRivera

        Yes, use the Bible verses! God is very, very Wonderful and Most Precious!

    • Jim T

      Well said Linda. Thanks for finding those quotations. We all need to be kept reminded who is protecting Isreal by his promise so long ago. Seems though many fall away from faith as the enemy presses in . We all need the strength of God thru his Holy Spirit to carry on and help build Gods kingdom, thru his Son Jesus.

      • LindaRivera

        God bless you, Jim. Our Savior is Wonderful!

  • beezwaxing

    I question your use of the term Christian as applied to this individual. If he’s a Christian, he’s an apostate Christian. He’s deceived and greatly so. In short, he’s a FOOL.

  • victoryman

    It looks like Pastor Bob and Rabbi Joshua both have their heads firmly placed where the sun doesn’t shine. Pastor Bob sounds like your standard closet anti-Semite and the good Rabbi is your standard JINO (Jew in name only) whose true faith is liberalism, not Judaism. He is one of many who believe that, “If I’m nice to the tiger, maybe he’ll eat me last.” Perhaps the Rabbi should look up the word “Kapo” in the dictionary. Both these men are a disgrace to faith and to the great Judeo/Christian tradition in our country. ‘”Pastor” Bob needs to be reminded that, “I will bless those that bless thee and curse those that curse thee.” I see that the Rabbi heads up a “Reform” Temple. How “Reform” is it? Is it open on Jewish Holidays? (Old joke.) The problem with men like these is that they attract the malleable Sheeple who swallow this “Interfaith/diversity/we are all the same” Dreck. (A word from the ancient Japanese.) My blessed Grandmother, God rest her soul, would have described these two “Leaders” in a single word, “Putz.” Also from the ancient Japanese.

  • victoryman

    You are right on target, John. Evil is evil, period. You can talk with evil, have a covered dish supper (Halal) with evil, but if you read his book, it instructs him to KILL you. Wake up, stand up and speak up!

  • Celeine Sandlin

    YOU COULD NOT GET Me in DALLAS ON THEC15 NO WAY NO HOW AND THIS MEGA CHURCH HAS LOST ITS WAY

  • William Cook

    If any so- called preacher, Christian, born-again believer who teams up with Islam under the guise of tolerance, and love and uniting humanity is denying the very Christ who died for them. Why do I say this? Because Islam denies the deity of Christ, they deny that Jesus is the Son of God. they deny that Jesus is God in the flesh, they deny that Jesus died on a Cross for the sins of humanity…….you also have denied Him as the ONE true GOD. As much as Jesus has died for all mankind….there are those all over the world who deny HIM for who HE is. And so-called pastors, so-called Christians, so-called born-again believers who are now linking to what the Rick Warrens, and Bob Roberts are doing are fools if they think that they are within the Will of God….they are very far from it. Wake up Church…the enemy as at your door!!

  • Angel Nova

    Why are these Christian pastors still dancing around Islam? Islam should not be given the status of RELIGION because it is a complete submission to the Arabic moon god that does not exist. It is complete political, legislative, judicial, military and financial ideology that the world’s recognized religions do not have. Islam is evil !

  • Alan
  • Kukye

    What I do I worry? These pastors never practice true Christianity anyway. They are not TRUE Christians. By there fruit ye shall know them.

    What worries me is they use our name. That I don’t like! Call it Mega-Church Worship, or Rick Warrens Belief Symptoms, but don’t use our name if you don’t follow it, OK???

  • Blake hitler

    this is happening in texas of all places? my goodness. if you lose texas you’ve lost america

  • Joseph James

    Allah phukz pigs

  • Bwhhaaa hhaaa hhaaaa

    This pastor and his congregation are a bunch of fools, for inviting the minions of Satan into their church. These ignorant marshmallows think that they can be buddies with Muslims by showing them just how friendly and inclusive they can be. However, what they seem to be ignoring, is the fact that in Islam if you are a true follower, you are not only encouraged but commanded to either convert or murder Christians, Jews or members of any other faith other than Islam.

    Oh, and there’s also the fact that Muslims are also allowed/encouraged to participate in pedophilia, rape, torture, murder, and countless other perversions by their so-called faith.

  • karen farley

    come out of the whore harlot church before Yahweh crushes her for her spiritual adultery.. The true body of Messiah can not yoke themselves to something that is unclean and defiled..God help them to repent..

  • karen farley

    The enemy has been planting hirelings in these mega churches for many years.. they are wolves in sheeps clothing, and will run when judgment comes.. stop following men, and organizations and follow the lamb of Yah.. Yeshua Is the head of His body and we are His living temples. He does not dwell in buildings made by man, that attempt to keep him in a box..He has left those places, as there is no room for the Holy Spirit, there churches are dead.. Ichabod has been written on there doors.. If you are in one of these places,, flee and sit at the foot of Yeshua/Jesus and ask him to teach you by the precious Holy Spirit and then follow only Him.. All earthly governments lie in the hands of the wicked one Satan.. that includes the USA.. Yeshua is coming to cleanse the earth of all wicked governments and will set up HIS KINGDOM WHICH WILL NEVE END.. EVEN SO COME YESHUA COME.. WE YEARN FOR YOU.

  • MROSA7

    Many postings here show that many “Truly Religious” souls are drowned in hatred. It may feel very self-fulfilling for you to call yourself and your religion as good, and others’ lives and religions as evil. Dwelling in your own little cave may fool you to think that you are “in light,” and others who live outside your cave, are “in darkness.” I pray to the one and only eternally living creator of ours that he opens your hearts; so light can shine into it, and you can see the greater world outside your cave. May He grant you the courage to learn what you know not; and bestow love and respect for others, as the Pastor Roberts and many others have been granted!!!

  • MROSA7

    FYI:
    Groups put aside religious differences to help Okla. rebuild, recover from Fox news
    http://kfor.com/2013/06/12/groups-put-religion-aside-to-help-okla-rebuild-recover/

  • Drdetroitdanchap

    Stay away from BOTH of the semite-religions-of-hate:

    “Judeo-Christian” is an OXYMORON. WAR-God vs PEACE-God. The Old Testament followers worship a WAR GOD and spend their lives hating, reliving every imagined slight, and dreaming of VENGENCE ….. “NEVER FORGIVE and NEVER FORGET” …. they still go on about Egypt and Babylon after MILLENIA. New Testament followers (are supposed to) worship a loving, forgiving God, and to CLOSE the Old Testament, as it has been FULLFILLED by the Crucifixion of Jesus. If you are following the OLD Testament you ARE NOT and CANNOT be a CHRISTian.
    It is a betrayal of Jesus to cling to the OLD covenant after Jesus Himself clearly stated:
    “This cup is the new covenant established by My blood; it is shed for you.” LUKE 22:20
    Any Christian allying with Israel/Zionism is actually Judas kissing the cheek of Christ just as treasonously as Judas Iscariot in the Garden, selling your Christian Brothers to the Temple Priests.
    “ANTI-Christ” does not get any greater then to CRUCIFY HIM, send agents (Saul of Tarsus and many others) to kill his followers, and then instigate POGROMS against the early Christians. Judaism IS the ANTI-Christ. Jews absolutely despise Christ, calling him the bastard son of a Prostitute. Research the Jewish view of Jesus Christ. The Roman historian Dio Cassius said in the 2nd century A.D. that the Jews killed 220,000 Greeks in Cyrene and 240,000 in Cyprus.
    The ESSENCE of Judaism is vengence. The ESSENCE of CHRISTianity is forgiveness. Never the two can meet.

  • Diana51

    Ezekiel 22:26
    Her priests have violated My law and profaned My holy things; they have not distinguished between the holy and unholy, nor have they made known the difference between the unclean and the clean; and they have hidden their eyes from My Sabbaths, so that I am profaned among them.

  • Diana51

    What will it take to stir up this apathetic church, led by the VAST majority of the leaders who appear as hirelings rather than “shepherds of the sheep”?

  • Diana51

    What would Jesus think? I see these people as traitors. Christians under Islam are greatly suffering. The Muslims are doing horrible things to women, and yet these Hard Left churches in America are forming a union with Islam. It shows that God is exposing these “churches and pastors” for what they really are. They are being merged with Islam. God is giving them over and sealing them with Islam.

  • Vivienne

    Jim it is clear many people are not reading the news of how many Christians are being slaughtered in the Middle East. Today the Grand Mufti of Saudia Arabia has stated on public broadcast and the press all Churches and Synagogues are to be destroyed. There is only one religion namely Islam. I’m sad your American President is either naive or really is a muslim!

  • Vicky Porterfield

    I just joined Discus and put my full name and made a comment. DO NOT POST WITH MY FULL NAME! How can I change this?

    • krinks

      Re-register and use a fake name and email you don’t use. I don’t comment on sites that route through Facebook for that very reason.

  • Joseph James

    Ok boys and girls can we say “apostate” A – P – O – S – T – A – T – E, Apostate.
    good. Now can we recall what He tells the churches?

    seducing spirits and doctrines of the devil

  • Ron Lewenberg

    Clearly you have never read the Prophets. And you are bordering on gnostic heresy. Jesus called himself a Jew. He said that he fulfilled the Law. He did not say that the Law was irrelevant.

    Zionists don’t bully Chrisitians. It’s sad that your faith is so lacking that a restored Israel puts it at risk.

    What was going on Cyrene? Roman imposed Greek settlers were displacing the locals, who revolted. And Dio Cassus is hardly an unbiased source. Jews and others rebelled against Roman occupation, and Dio Cassius blamed everything on Jews.