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		<title>By: Reuven</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 17:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[B&#039;Tselem and Haaretz should be declared illegal and shut down! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B&#039;Tselem and Haaretz should be declared illegal and shut down! </p>
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		<title>By: Asher</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 12:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the Era of Deception that Christ said would happen.  Good will be called evil and evil will be called good...Fight for the truth! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the Era of Deception that Christ said would happen.  Good will be called evil and evil will be called good&#8230;Fight for the truth! </p>
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		<title>By: Asher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Asher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 12:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both government are part of the treachery to defend ourselves! Also part of the setup before the Anti-christ! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both government are part of the treachery to defend ourselves! Also part of the setup before the Anti-christ! </p>
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		<title>By: watsa46</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 01:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The leftists want to impose PC on anybody disagreeing with the them but claims exemption for themselves. The very same phenomenon is at work in the US too. This comes straight from Marxism-Leninism. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The leftists want to impose PC on anybody disagreeing with the them but claims exemption for themselves. The very same phenomenon is at work in the US too. This comes straight from Marxism-Leninism. </p>
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		<title>By: Simon Brockwell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Brockwell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 00:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an Australian lawyer I find it astonishing that there is such a furore about the proposed law: 
 
&quot; ...if someone claims falsely that Israeli soldiers carried out some sort of atrocity or crime against humanity and it could be proved that the claims are lies and the person making the claims knew they were lies, then the liar could be sued for defamation in civil court.&quot; 
 
This is thoroughly unremarkable and entirely consistent with centuries of English common law tradition; a tradition incorporated in or forming the basis of the legal systems of all the democracies of the Anglosphere: USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc as well as being a major foundation of the Israeli legal system. 
 
To claim this is &quot;criminalising&quot; criticism is plainly absurd and patently dishonest: it is merely creating (it astounds me that this legal remedy has not been in the the Israeli legal code since 1949), as noted in the article a civil tort, an actionable wrong done by one person to another. The sanction for this wrong is damages, ie monetary compensation for the wrong done to your reputation. A crime is a wrong done by one citizen by another that the state - having decided (in England&#039;s case in the C16th) that some categories of wrong, eg murder, rape, robbery, assault, etc should not be dependent upon the victims&#039; ability or willingness to mount a legal case against the offender but rather constitute an affront to and disruption of orderly society - prosecutes the latter citizen for committing against the former and the sanction extends to punishment including incarceration by the state. 
 
Shame on every Israeli politician who voted against this bill. leaving soldiers doing their life-endangering duty for their country only to be grotesquely maligned by appalling lies, e.g. &quot;Jenin, Jenin!&quot;, the Mohammed Al-Dura scam, with no legal recourse to defend their actions and reputation. No wonder there are so many ex-IDF soldiers living in Australia (or trying to stay here) and wanting nothing to do with Israel and instead leading apolitical lives unwilling even to engage in social discourse to defend Israel against the calumnies heaped against her on a daily basis in the mainstream media which are embraced by an ignorant, and I use that term in its purest and non-pejorative sense, Australian public. 
 
 
 
   
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Australian lawyer I find it astonishing that there is such a furore about the proposed law: </p>
<p>&quot; &#8230;if someone claims falsely that Israeli soldiers carried out some sort of atrocity or crime against humanity and it could be proved that the claims are lies and the person making the claims knew they were lies, then the liar could be sued for defamation in civil court.&quot; </p>
<p>This is thoroughly unremarkable and entirely consistent with centuries of English common law tradition; a tradition incorporated in or forming the basis of the legal systems of all the democracies of the Anglosphere: USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc as well as being a major foundation of the Israeli legal system. </p>
<p>To claim this is &quot;criminalising&quot; criticism is plainly absurd and patently dishonest: it is merely creating (it astounds me that this legal remedy has not been in the the Israeli legal code since 1949), as noted in the article a civil tort, an actionable wrong done by one person to another. The sanction for this wrong is damages, ie monetary compensation for the wrong done to your reputation. A crime is a wrong done by one citizen by another that the state &#8211; having decided (in England&#039;s case in the C16th) that some categories of wrong, eg murder, rape, robbery, assault, etc should not be dependent upon the victims&#039; ability or willingness to mount a legal case against the offender but rather constitute an affront to and disruption of orderly society &#8211; prosecutes the latter citizen for committing against the former and the sanction extends to punishment including incarceration by the state. </p>
<p>Shame on every Israeli politician who voted against this bill. leaving soldiers doing their life-endangering duty for their country only to be grotesquely maligned by appalling lies, e.g. &quot;Jenin, Jenin!&quot;, the Mohammed Al-Dura scam, with no legal recourse to defend their actions and reputation. No wonder there are so many ex-IDF soldiers living in Australia (or trying to stay here) and wanting nothing to do with Israel and instead leading apolitical lives unwilling even to engage in social discourse to defend Israel against the calumnies heaped against her on a daily basis in the mainstream media which are embraced by an ignorant, and I use that term in its purest and non-pejorative sense, Australian public. </p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 23:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The classic leftard stance 
 
Free speech for me, but not for thee. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The classic leftard stance </p>
<p>Free speech for me, but not for thee. </p>
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		<title>By: SCREW SOCIALISM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SCREW SOCIALISM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 18:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ziontruth AKBAR! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ziontruth AKBAR! </p>
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		<title>By: ziontruth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ziontruth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 17:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are sell-outs on the religious side, as well as stalwart patriots among the secular in Israel, but over all your point is right. One reason (beside Arab intransigence) that the Israeli Jewish public has shifted rightward is that the past few decades have seen a religious revival; as Jewish nationalism (a.k.a. Zionism) is an inseparable part of Judaism (contrary to the anti-Zionists&#039; attempts at decoupling them), a strengthening in Jewish religious observance in Israel nearly always correlates to an increase in nationalist fervor. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are sell-outs on the religious side, as well as stalwart patriots among the secular in Israel, but over all your point is right. One reason (beside Arab intransigence) that the Israeli Jewish public has shifted rightward is that the past few decades have seen a religious revival; as Jewish nationalism (a.k.a. Zionism) is an inseparable part of Judaism (contrary to the anti-Zionists&#039; attempts at decoupling them), a strengthening in Jewish religious observance in Israel nearly always correlates to an increase in nationalist fervor. </p>
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		<title>By: Bert</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 16:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is very unfortunate that Israel is still not a Jewish state but rather a secular entity of Jews with corrupt leadership that sneers at Judaism. If Israel was Jewish the ninth commandment to not bear false witness would be the law of the land and judges would be selected based on their moral qualities and their adherence to the Torah. Arrogant secular Jews always ignore Judaic teachings and act with egotism that blinds them to their own faults and limitations. Secular Jews always lose in confronting Arab propaganda because the Arab is passionate in his convictions while the Jew is timid and wracked with guilt at being forced to dominate those &#039;poor Palestinians&#039;. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very unfortunate that Israel is still not a Jewish state but rather a secular entity of Jews with corrupt leadership that sneers at Judaism. If Israel was Jewish the ninth commandment to not bear false witness would be the law of the land and judges would be selected based on their moral qualities and their adherence to the Torah. Arrogant secular Jews always ignore Judaic teachings and act with egotism that blinds them to their own faults and limitations. Secular Jews always lose in confronting Arab propaganda because the Arab is passionate in his convictions while the Jew is timid and wracked with guilt at being forced to dominate those &#039;poor Palestinians&#039;. </p>
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		<title>By: AdinaK</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AdinaK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 07:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hoisting up the indefensible is a hallmark of the left, pretending that it is the &quot;holy&quot; grail of liberal ethos. And Israel&#039;s left is no exception. In fact, while they tolerate NO dissent, no such forbearance is given to the other side. Free speech for me but not for thee... 
 
In any event, Israel&#039;s left is guilty of many cardinal sins, but it becomes clearer once seen through Daphne Netaynayhu&#039;s (the PM&#039;s sister-in-law) prism -  &lt;a href=&quot;http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/11/27/pm-netanyahus-sister-in-law-daphne-netanyahu-brilliantly-exposes-israels-own-tyranny-of-cliches-adina-kutnicki/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/11/27/pm-netanyahus...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
Clear as a bell. 
Adina Kutnicki, Israel &lt;a href=&quot;http://adinakutnicki.com/about/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://adinakutnicki.com/about/&lt;/a&gt; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoisting up the indefensible is a hallmark of the left, pretending that it is the &quot;holy&quot; grail of liberal ethos. And Israel&#039;s left is no exception. In fact, while they tolerate NO dissent, no such forbearance is given to the other side. Free speech for me but not for thee&#8230; </p>
<p>In any event, Israel&#039;s left is guilty of many cardinal sins, but it becomes clearer once seen through Daphne Netaynayhu&#039;s (the PM&#039;s sister-in-law) prism &#8211;  <a href="http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/11/27/pm-netanyahus-sister-in-law-daphne-netanyahu-brilliantly-exposes-israels-own-tyranny-of-cliches-adina-kutnicki/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/11/27/pm-netanyahus" rel="nofollow">http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/11/27/pm-netanyahus</a>&#8230; </p>
<p>Clear as a bell.<br />
Adina Kutnicki, Israel <a href="http://adinakutnicki.com/about/" rel="nofollow">http://adinakutnicki.com/about/</a> </p>
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