Screw You, Mickey Kaus

USA-HEALTHCARE/TECHNOLOGYI’ve been thrown off my health insurance — THANKS, OBAMACARE! — and have spent hours and hours over the past month trying to figure out my options now that the Democrats have made my old plan, which I liked, “illegal.” (I prefer to think of my plan as “undocumented.”)

Whom do I bill for the hours of work Obamacare forced me to perform? How about you, Mickey? You’re the smartest living liberal (faint praise), and you assured us that Obamacare was going to be fantastic.

By now, Obama has issued “waivers” from Obamacare to about 99 percent of the country. (Perhaps you’ve heard, there’s a big midterm election this year.) As one of the few Americans not granted a waiver, I’m here to tell you: You have no idea what’s coming, America.

I thought I had figured out the best plan for me a month ago after having doctors and hospital administrators look at the packets of material I was sent by my old insurance company — the same mailing that informed me my old plan was “illegal” under Obamacare.

But when I checked online recently, I discovered the premier plan — the “platinum,” low-deductible, astronomically expensive plan that might be accepted by an English-speaking doctor who didn’t attend medical school in a Hawaiian shirt and board shorts — does not include treatment at any decent hospitals.

That’s sort of unfortunate because THAT’S THE ONLY REASON I WANT INSURANCE! That’s the only reason any sane homo sapien wants health insurance: to cover health care costs in the event of some catastrophic illness or accident — not to pay for Mickey Kaus’ allergy appointments. But my only options under the blue-chip plan were hospitals that also do shoe repair.

I called Blue Cross directly to ask if its most expensive insurance plan covered the only hospital I’d ever go to in an emergency. Since that’s all I wanted to know, that’s what I asked. (I like to get to the point that way.)

But — as happens whenever you try to ascertain the most basic information about insurance under Obamacare — the Blue Cross representative began hammering me with a battery of questions about myself.

First my name. (Does that make a difference to what hospitals its plans cover?) Then my phone number. By the time he got to my address, I said, CAN YOU PLEASE JUST TELL ME IF ANY OF YOUR PLANS COVER XYZ HOSPITAL? I DON’T EVEN KNOW IF I WANT TO SIGN UP WITH YOU!

Finally, he admitted that Blue Cross’ most expensive individual insurance plan does not cover treatment at the hospitals I named. Their doctors are “out of network” (and the person who designed this plan is “out of his mind”).

This was the rest of the conversation, verbatim:

ME: None of your plans cover out-of-network doctors?


ME: Why is it called “Premier Guided Access WITH OUT-OF-NETWORK PLAN”?

BLUE CROSS: Where did you see that?

ME: On Blue Cross’ own material describing its plans.

BLUE CROSS: Oh. I don’t know why it’s called that.

ME: None of your plans cover (the good hospital)?


ME: I don’t know who you are, but I have a very specific set of skills that will help me find you. And when I find you, I am going to kill you. (Click.)

True conversation. Except the last sentence. That was my fantasy.

I decided to approach it from the opposite direction and called one of the nation’s leading hospitals to ask which plans it accepted. The woman listed a series of plans, but she couldn’t tell me if I was eligible for any of them. For that, she said, I’d have to go to the Obamacare website.

Does Obamacare cover suicide?

I went to “” and — I guess I had heard this, but had blocked it from my memory like a rape victim unable to remember her attack — you can’t even peek at the available plans until you’ve given the government reams of personal information about yourself.

How about they let me look at the merchandise first?

Inasmuch as the cost of health insurance under Obamacare is so high that it will generally make more sense just to pay for your own catastrophic health emergencies, I was not interested in telling Kathleen Sebelius everything about me in order to have the privilege of glancing at the government’s crappy plans.

But that’s the only choice. As the Obamacare website directs:

(1) Create an account. (Name, password.)

(2) Tell us about yourself and your family. (Every single thing.)

(3) Choose a health insurance plan. (That’s where you finally get to see the plans.)

I wonder if other consumer-oriented businesses will start demanding names, addresses, passwords and phone numbers before the customer is allowed to browse the merchandise. Maybe Williams-Sonoma could pick up a few sales tricks from Ezekiel Emanuel! Oh, you’d like to see the bronze muffin tin? Sure, but first I’ll need your Social Security number, date of birth and mother’s maiden name. Sign here, here and here.

The main point of the Obamacare website is to encourage people other than me to get a government subsidy. There’s also a section helping you register to vote. You just can’t see the insurance plans. (Guess which one you need a government ID for?)

With zero help from the Obamacare website, I eventually figured out that there was one lone insurance plan that would cover treatment at a reputable hospital. The downside is, no doctors take it.

So my only two health insurance options — and yours, too, as soon as the waivers expire, America! — are: (1) a plan that no doctors take; or (2) a plan that no hospitals take. You either pay for all your doctor visits and tests yourself, or you pay for your cancer treatment yourself. And you pay through the nose in either case.

That’s not insurance! It’s a huge transfer of wealth from people who work for a living to those who don’t, accomplished by forcing the workers to buy insurance that’s not insurance. Obamacare has made actual health insurance “illegal.”

It’s not “insurance” when what I want to insure against isn’t covered, but paying for other people’s health care needs — defined broadly — is mandatory.

It’s as if you wanted to buy a car, so you paid for a Toyota — but then all you got was a 10-speed bike, with the rest of your purchase price going to buy cars, bikes and helmets for other people.

Or, more precisely, it would be like having the option of car insurance that covers either collisions or liability, but not both. Your car insurance premium would be gargantuan, because most of it would go to buy insurance, gas and air fresheners for other people in the plan.

If you have employer-provided health care, you may not have to make the 400 phone calls I had to, but the result will be the same: You’re not getting what is commonly known as “insurance.” You’re getting a massive bill to pay for other people’s chiropractors, marriage counselors, birth control pills, smoking cessation programs, “preventive care” appointments and pre-existing conditions.

Health insurance has been outlawed, replaced with a welfare program that has been renamed “insurance.”

When Matt Drudge decided he’d rather pay for his own health care, liberals hysterically denounced him for not buying an Obamacare transfer-the-wealth, fake “insurance” plan. It used to be shameful to be a public charge. Now it’s shameful to pay for yourself.

And it’s shameful to work for yourself. The self-employed are currently the only Americans subjected to Obamacare. (In a way, it’s lucky for the Democrats that there aren’t enough of us to hurt them in this year’s midterm elections!)

But we’re the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come. You may have an employer-provided plan now, but the waivers can’t go on forever. If you live in America, your health insurance is going to disappear, too.

The government simply cannot force all insurance companies to give subsidized health care to a third of the country, to ignore the pre-existing health conditions of its customers, to pay for every little thing tangentially related to health — like smoking cessation programs, marital counseling and pediatric dental care — and also expect them to cover your cancer treatment.

It doesn’t matter if you’ve been paying for insurance your whole adult life. That policy is now “illegal.” Put your hands in the air, nice and easy, and step away from the policy …

You 99-percenters still unaffected by Obamacare will blithely go to the polls this November and vote on some teeny-tiny issue, completely unaware of the total destruction of health insurance in America. The waivers have worked.

Now we’ll have to wait 40 years for a future Mickey Kaus to come along and expose the disastrous consequences of this horrendous government program, just like the real Mickey Kaus did with welfare. But for now, I say: Screw you, Mickey Kaus.

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  • Peter Castle

    Coulter sceptics may question whether her story is true. If true, it is quite a tale. Certainly her logic and analysis of Obamacare seems right on the money (our money).

    The jury of reality has already pronounced judgment on Obamacare.

    The jury of experience may have to reconsider its verdict on Ann Coulter, which, to date, is that we should Never Trust Ann Coulter – at ANY Age, at

    • tryingtopickaname

      Coulterwatch…sorry…but the linked article reads exactly like a rambling screed from a jilted and bitter lover.

    • CapitalistPig

      Ann is outrageous! That’s why we like her. No apologies, no PC, no quarter given, no quarter asked. Love her or hate her, if you debate her I suggest you come prepared because she can back what she brings.

  • canto28

    Obamacare thus also increases social-economic stratification: the very wealthy get the hospitals and doctors they want. The rest of us are downgraded to the lowly second-rate citizen class. The new Obama peasant class.

    • Realist

      Your point about increasing stratification is true enough, you fail to mention, however, that our self-appointed saviors in the privileged class of the federal government are also immune from the Obamesiahcare proscriptions or are at a minimum protected from those costly proscriptions by our tax dollars.

  • Marnott

    This sounds like one of those “made for TV” websites. You are forced to tell all about yourself including your credit card info and then you are never given a total price but are funneled to someone else for another ” gotcha ” scam pitch.

  • Ken Kelso

    Well we know one thing, Ann will never have to go for marital counseling

  • BagLady

    This horror story is an example of why I hate your profit driven Right Wing system. Sorry, but it’s clearly costing a lot of lives that could have been saved had it been treated as a basic human right for all.

    As an outsider I don’t understand the paperwork but I definitely see a correlation with the newly ‘liberated’ once government controlled services of Britain. There was a sudden need for a ‘fire sale’ of all English assets and, oh dear, “Sorry folks” we accidentally underestimated (yet again) the value of our resources and sold them off to ‘foreign’ companies.

    I read of the difficulties the English are having understanding their electricity/gas bills and which company to go with for less rip-offs. It has become an art. The old and poor are getting extremely cold and hungry with their annual costs going up by $thousands whist the quality of service is going down. The companies annual reports show giant leaps in profits and bonuses are $$$blessed. The supplier has no local office, is not a UK company and is so distanced that arrogance has become the order of the day.

    The governments of every era have always been fairly useless but, in the ‘good old days’, when they knew their place, and got on with the jobs of supplying power, schools, medicine and highways and left ‘foreign policy’ to those who had actually ever been ‘abroad’, life was better for the average man who, lets face it doesn’t give a monkey’s about the Crimea. Where? Never heard of it..

    I feel certain that it’s well within America’s capabilities to supply its people with excellent medical facilities. Just take a look at profit margins and cap the damn things.

    Do you really believe that the investor is number one in line for the benefits of a system? Used to be his % was insignificant, due to the fact he could sit on his fat ass while everyone else slogged away and he was happy with an ‘accumulator’.

    This is one area where I agree with Islam. The percentage profit has always been a real killer. Yes, yes, I know they get around it with other methods but, logically, the creaming off eventually leads to 0.

    Not exactly zero, of course. The logic of Lewis Carol shows that. There will always be a slight portion left behind as the tortoise races with the hare.

  • justquitnow

    I had to wait on hold with AT&T for over a half hour yesterday and then they tried to upsell me to digital TV…..thanks Obamacare.

    • BagLady

      Presumably that means you can’t walk down the street and into the local ObamaCare Help Centre and exit a satisfied customer?

      Globalization. Don’t you just love the efficiency?

      I may not always exit a satisfied customer, though I do try to ‘save face’, but at least I can get on my bike and go to a local office and ‘sort it out’ without having to do without a service nor having to raise a bank loan to pay for it.

  • RAM500

    Ann, if you adopt the right false persona and raise money for Democrats, you will get whatever healthcare you need.
    Or maybe Chris Christie could help.

  • RAM500

    You should prefer profit-driven to loss-driven (loss of freedom, money, whatnot).
    The “basic human right” in your favorite systems only exists on paper. In practice, those in charge invoke scarcity (which they create!) to justify denial of care to groups they’re not fond of, and to channel care to themselves and their best buddies.

    • CapitalistPig

      I agree–I sum much of that up in my post above by saying “There’s a reason the British have crooked teeth”.

    • BagLady

      Um? Isn’t that what I said?

  • tagalog

    How do you propose to cap profit margins? By government action? But you said that government is largely useless (a conservative position, I should add); how will government regulate profit margins without politicizing commerce, and how will politicizing commerce benefit those little old ladies who are having trouble understanding their heating bills?

    • BagLady

      Then history tells us that a collectivist society will collapse and be
      replaced by the most rapacious of man-against-man societies”

      Pit Bull versus Chihuahua, in other words

    • BagLady

      Adam Smith (among many others) points out that in a society motivated by
      the profit margin, where competition is fostered and hard work valued,
      the overall result for everyone in the society is positive. Number One
      in capitalist societies is the person who creates wealth through his
      labor; without him, the financiers won’t earn a dime.”

      Oh yeah, let’s push that hard labour. “Wiping it off here boss.”

  • Fed_up

    I don’t necessarily doubt what Ms. Coulter is stating. However, I have a question. Ms. Coulter presumably is buying a top-tier insurance. These typically have the highest reimbursement rates(based on my experience as a physician in a private practice). If the hospital she wants to go to doesn’t accept her insurance, what do they accept, and who is paying it, and/or for it?

    • BagLady

      Egad! What happens if you have an heart attack in the street and have no papers on your poor body?

      I know what happens here. First they steal everything you’ve got and then the various ‘health centres’ demand $1000 cash to scoop you from the pavement. However, this is ‘third’ world. I expect better from the ‘first’.

  • CapitalistPig

    Not sure where you found this “right” to bill your fellow citizen for your health. If you want to cap profits–give patients the option to find another provider & expand the opportunities for people to become providers. But centralizing the health system then giving the patient the perception that a good or service is below the cost to provide it is about as sure a recipe for disaster as I can conjure up.
    There’s a reason the British have crooked teeth.
    And if I have a program that will provide every citizen with a new $100 Cadillac—-I’ll always have an “Affordable Cadillac Shortage”—or really lousy Cadillacs.

    • BagLady

      Still trying to get my head around the Cadillac story but then I’ve been to the beach with my cocktail loving friend and am in a s(h)implistic mood.

      First of all, you ask what right we have to expect our neighbour to pay for our healthcare. Obviously, none at all. However, there was a time in Britain, when everyone over school/uni age went out to work and paid into the healthcare system with a fixed percentage of their salary. Naturally, those on higher salaries paid more than others and some were more healthy than others irrespective of financial status. Did we mind that Jack on the corner, suffering from cancer at 35 was taking more out of the system than George on the other corner who had been paying for 50 years without getting sick? What do you reckon?

      I’m not for one moment suggesting that governments can run hospitals, education or any other damned department.

      I occasionally temped in government departments during my uni vacations (no debts for me thank you) and was always horrified by the incompetence and waste. The worst of all was spending a few weeks as the personal assistant to the CEO of a hospital. Nice chap, but what the hell did he actually do? There was no system. There was no connection between him and the rest of the hospital.

      However, somehow we muddled through. Doctors were of the highest calibre as were nurses. Matron ruled the wards and demanded the highest standards from her herd of nurses, all trained on the ground and home grown.

      Basically, when you got sick, you called an ambulance and it was there within minutes and whisked you (free of charge) to the nearest hospital where an highly qualified doctor was immediately available as was an hospital bed.

      It was Margaret Thatcher who first fell in love with all things American. She came back from her triste with Reagan with a new swish in her tail. She stomped on the unions, the miners, the press and absolutely everyone else who stood in her way….. except the Queen of course. However hard she tried, she could never quite get that throne.

      I shall argue that the single payer British system is the ideal. The problem besetting it is 21st century corruption of society. By which I mean, we no longer have all the people working and paying their portion and, by leaving our doors wide open, have introduced millions of new non-paying sick people, some with real weird diseases (believe me).

      The British government continues to argue, with the new 21st century logic, that less is more. Hospital after hospital is closing down. More and more facilities are being flogged off to the highest bidder (Cherie Blair fancies opening a chain of ‘drop in medical centres’ in all supermarkets). Medical personnel are now being recruited through the usual handful of overpaid ‘gangmasters’ who bring them in on the cheap from all corners of the world with they iffy qualifications while border controls close their eyes.

      Profit has become the name of the game and will be the death of us all.

    • BagLady

      give patients the option to find another provider & expand the opportunities for people to become providers.”

      Yea, well when you suffer that debilitating heart attack you just want to phone 911 and have an ambulance turn up and take you to the nearest, well equipped hospital with an English speaking, well trained doctor who will save your life and put you in a comfy bed to recover.

      Sadly, ‘progress’ is denying us the basics that we once enjoyed.

      • CapitalistPig

        That’s where your insurance kicks in. Kinda like when the tornados that frequent my area–I file a claim on my homeowners. When the gutter is plugged with leaves, I do it myself or hire someone to paint the fence-& pay out of pocket–I don”t file a claim.
        The “basics you once enjoyed” aren’t so cheap because so many of your fellow subjects abuse them thinking they are “free”–or some unidentified fellow subject should be billed. So they place no value on it.

  • fiddler

    Quoted: (ROFL!)

    “ME: I don’t know who you are, but I have a very specific set of skills
    that will help me find you. And when I find you, I am going to kill you.

    Where is Leeham Neesom when you need him?

  • mtnhikerdude

    Ann ,we are Doomed . He has 2 years 9 months to finish bulldozing the middle class (Tax Payers ) into poverty . Then he and Michelle will retire to Hawaii on the tax payers dime chanting “We Did It .We Did IT. We Slayed a Nation”. If a message isn’t sent in the mid terms , we can kiss America goodbye. The saddest part of this farewell to our Nation is there is no where else to go .Oklahoma Texas , etc can’t accommodate us all .

  • mtnhikerdude

    Bag lady since when is capitalism a crime . Stick your comments on the liberal sites . Do you donate your entire income or any part of it to the NAACP or La Raza or the ACLU. Take a hike into reality !

    • BagLady

      As a capitalist myself I do not consider myself a criminal.

      The rest of your post is written in a language I don’t understand..

  • NJK

    You have no right to health care. Just because you call it a right, doesn’t make it so.

    By the way, saying you have health care, doesn’t mean you’ll get treated. When you’re a certain age, they’ll let you die.

    • BagLady

      When you’re a certain age, they’ll let you die.”

      It sure seems that way to me from everything I read from both sides of the pond

      • CapitalistPig

        The “They’ll” –in Britain is your government, where you’re left little choice when “they” decide your life isn’t “worth” saving.
        Here, “you” decide whether your “worth” saving–at least until the latest gang got in charge.
        My wife & I worked & saved our a$$es off—We have money, why shouldn’t my family have better health care? We have a better house, car, eat better & take nice vacations that we didn’t do the first 35 years of our marriage (& the first 55 years of my life). Now I’m older & the yo yo that flitted from job to job (or no job!) didn’t save or make much effort to provide for himself somehow wants the government to bend over, or bend me over, to give hm top drawer treatment?………..go fly a kite in an electrical storm.

  • Jeff Brodhead

    #1 sign that you might be an Obamacare Navigator:

  • Skeptic7

    Recent headlines from the UK single-payer system where healthcare is a right:

    “60,000 euthanized without consent”
    “Breast cancer betrayal of older women: only 1 in 7 over 70 receiving chemotherapy”
    “20,000 appointments cancelled due to doctors’ strike”
    “Patients going blind on waiting lists for eye surgery, doctors frustrated.”

    Google them and read the tragic articles for yourself. Single-payer is a death sentence.

    • BagLady

      I too read the British horror stories of the morphing British National Health System. However, you are wrong in your conclusion.

      The British government has been hell bent on destroying the NHS for a number of years. As the population increases at an alarming rate with no control at the borders. The powers that be have decided that, in the interest of “efficiency”, hospital after hospital must be closed down. More and more foreign ‘nurses’ are being brought in on reduced wages. Doctors are no longer required to actually speak English (against their human rights) and their credentials barely scrutinised.

      This has nothing to do with the single payer system that worked so well for Britain for nigh on a century. It has more to do with Britain following the American for profit model. Once money raised its ugly head, hospitals began receiving around $50 for each old person they killed off under the Liverpool Care Pathway.

      Suddenly everyone in public service expects an annual bonus. Something that never happened in Britain before.

      Not everything in life should be about money.

  • Loosgravel

    Gee whilakers! It’s so nice to get a lecture from a Brit on the evils of money. You know, the British Commonwealth was built on charity and was based on human rights. You betcha!

    • CapitalistPig

      A little historical context—–on the whole, having “ex British Colony” on your country’s resume seems to have worked out pretty well. As much as folks don’t like foreign troops traipsing around the local landscape, the Brits generally left their campsites cleaner than when they arrived.

      • BagLady

        Hear, hear CP. I’m not sticking up for colonialism but of all those guilty of such practises, the Brits were the best. Where would India be now without our crumbling contribution?

        I’m excepting the political/legal process here, since India has taken it to an whole new bureaucratic level where, whilst money continues to change hands, nothing gets done.

        • CapitalistPig

          My response was aimed more at LoosGravel–I like the Brits. We did fine as a former colony & we’re not an exception to the rule. And your right about India, it’s like they’ve instituted a “government caste” system to substitute for the cultural caste system they used to have (& the original caste system certainly hasn’t disappeared by any means!). It isn’t the Brits fault, they left the place cleaner than what they found it.
          Sometimes you lend people books of great knowledge but when you return to retrieve them, you find they’ve only chewed off the covers. I’ve read far to many accounts of the Indian bureaucracy & their penchant for paper shuffling, approvals, reviews, appeals, licensing & keeping 15 layers of government officials & their friends, family & groupies paid off to put up a burger stand. The old Soviets had nothing on the Indians when it comes to squelching prosperity in its infancy.

          • BagLady

            It is the natural outcome of overpopulation. It may be a ‘democracy’ but the poor operate a ‘communist’ system because they have to. When one son gets a job with a shovel, he takes his brother with him and shares the wages. He digs the spade into the ground, and younger brother pulls it out with the rope attached to the base.

            When the bank manager arrives (late) for work, he shakes hands with all his many staff. He then performs Puja all over the place. Someone with keys opens his drawers and lockers, another places a nice paper weight on his desk and a big cushion on his chair. Someone brings him a cup of chai and he is ready to receive you.

            Changing a travellers cheque is very important knowledge on a rural banker’s CV and every entry is carefully monitored and by the book. It is possible to wonder around the offices watching each debit in one man’s books be offset by a credit in another’s. By the time the paperwork has been completed it is lunchtime and the bank closes. After lunch they hand you the metal number and you descent to the metal cage, guarded with a man and his rusty bulletless gun, and receive your money. Bundles of rupees stapled with huge clips to stop the staff from stealing a bit off the top.

            Of course you could be unlucky and arrive at the bank on a ‘bank holiday’ of which there are over 150. Every Hindu God must be treated equally and given his due respect with a day off.

  • Pitkin

    As a British person currently sitting, in pain, in Britain, I will say that you have uttered a series of falsehoods in this posts.
    1. If British governments were more inclined to take on the sacred cow of the NHS, we might not be stuck with such a catastrophic, dysfunctional, murderous institution. As it is, they have endlessly tinkered around the edges, while boasting about spending ever more (of our) money on it. Nothing has been improved, only new problems and stupidities introduced.
    2. Foreign doctors and nurses are required to pass an English language test before being allowed to practice unlesss they come from the EU, under EU law, nothing to do with human rights. The efficiency of those testing procedures is another matter.
    3. That hospitals were paid to kill patients is a total lie. There were, however, consequences, to having financial penalties for waiting lists and other patient-treatment targets. Speeding the departure of terminally-ill (or just old) patients helped meet those targets.

    Much wickedness and cruelty has been done within NHS hospitals, some by medical staff who were either incompetent, over-stretched or both, more by managers who had an eye to the next board meeting and their bonuses. Nothing you allege is true.

    • BagLady

      That hospitals were paid to kill patients is a total lie. There were, however, consequences, to having financial penalties for waiting lists and other patient-treatment targets. Speeding the departure of terminally-ill (or just old) patients helped meet those targets.

      Same thing really.

      “Nothing you allege is true.”

      You are sitting there in pain and yet arguing that reduction of front-line medics has not had a catastrophic effect on the NHS. What are these drop-in centres, manned by people like you and I, who tap in your symptoms and come up with an answer?

      The solution most certainly doesn’t involve paying $millions to an handful of absent ‘suits’.

    • BagLady

      If British governments were more inclined to take on the sacred cow of
      the NHS, we might not be stuck with such a catastrophic, dysfunctional,
      murderous institution.

      Those who can go into business. Those who can’t get a nice safe government job that spends most of its time on their personal issues ensuring they get their overtime, expenses and the full 2 week sick leave per annum on top of long holidays. Working at a snail’s pace is de rigueur lest the ‘time and motion man’ comes calling.

      So much easier and cheaper to sell the lot off cheap to close family contacts and leave it to market forces to settle the level of care allocated to this commodity hitherto known as ‘patient’. .

  • CapitalistPig

    To paragraph 2…that’s insurance. I don’t mind paying my homeowners even though my home has never burned down or floated off in a global warming flood.
    What I do mind is being mandated to pay the premiums for other homeowners. It becomes more galling when those premiums include raking, mowing, heating, cooling, painting, changing light bulbs & unplugging the loo when Jr flushes his socks down the commode services. That’s your responsibility. I don’t buy these coverages for me–why should I be forced to pay for these coverages for someone else?
    Once you separate the user from paying for his use–any & all services become “affordable” & are clamored to be provided for in great abundance.
    This might surprise you, but I think you should pay for routine office visits & your own medication for ailments like Anxiety Disorder, Restless Leg Syndrome, Adult Attention Deficit Disorder & Erectile Dysfunction–but so long as some else is getting billed, who cares?
    I live in a state overrun with illegal immigrants. They show up in droves in the ER, pay nothing, expect to be treated even though most all of them are there for non-ER related causes (colds, sore throats, normal childhood illnesses), have paid nothing into the system—& of course the hospital bills both the county & those of us stupid enough not to demand free treatment.
    It isn’t the profit motive that’s evil–it’s the idea that people don’t value these services because they’ve been led to believe that they’re either
    Neither is true.
    Which brings me to the Cadillac. It’s basic economics.
    Markets have provided almost exactly the same number of Cadillacs produced as there are the number of buyers willing to pay for them.. (This illustration works with all models).
    This was arrived at by millions of buyers buying millions of autos produced by dozens of manufacturers in a free market place. Some people wanted Cadillacs–cheap b@stards like myself didn’t, even though I can afford one (many actually).
    Now along comes Ceasar Barackomus Abysmalus who decrees that “everyone should own a Cadillac & no one should pay more than $100″. Well, you can’t make one that cheap but you’ve flooded that supply/demand pool with artificial demand coming from gobs of people who now expect a $100 luxury car (the “Abysmalus Car Act”?) But there is no such thing as a $100 Caddy–so now what?
    The makers of Caddy’s can’t fill the demand from both the people who are willing to pay full production costs plus a modest profit AND those who just want their $100 Abysmalus Cadillac they were promised.
    Abysmalus has but 2 options—
    1..accept massive shortages of Cadillacs (especially that really cool chick magnet CTS 2 seater!), lines around the blocks many times over at every government office coupled with “enhanced” political chicanery as folks lobby & game the system to obtain one or
    2…decree that to make Cadillacs available for all, even those who can afford but 100 bucks, we will impose cost controls, rationing, a strict regulatory regime & a complete redesign of the Cadillac so that it falls within the new mandates in order to reduce those manufacturing costs to $100 per car.
    …………That 100 bucks, my friend, gets you to my description of a “really lousy Cadillac”.
    That’s the same system that’s produced Brits with “really lousy teeth” & will get us “really lousy Cadillacs”————-or “really lousy health care” —Get it?

  • CapitalistPig

    To your last line–When you come up with better system for scoring, I’ll buy in.
    If you want folks to produce more of something, let them make money for doing it.
    If you want to keep them honest in the amount of money they make, make sure there’s plenty of other people in the same line of work.
    If they can still make pornographic sums of money after all that—congratulate them. Steve Jobs didn’t impoverish anyone.
    As Reagan here put it, liberals (The Labor Party I suppose in GB) run an economy into the ground in 3 stages–
    1..If it moves, Tax It!
    2..If it moves to fast, Regulate It!……….&
    3..When it stops moving, Subsidize It!

    You’re NHS is deeply into Stage 3 sclerosis.

    • BagLady

      f you want folks to produce more of something, let them make money for doing it.

      What has this to do with the Health Service?

      • CapitalistPig

        It’s why Wal-Mart wants to open clinics inside its stores.

    • BagLady

      If they can still make pornographic sums of money after all that—congratulate them”

      If medics make “pornographic sums” there won’t be enough left to actually treat the patient.

      • CapitalistPig

        It’s easier to become a medic than say—a neurosurgeon.
        It’s why we pay dishwashers less than championship golfers—not very many people can stay up with Tiger Woods.
        My daughter was a medic but has moved on to Registered Nurse—more money. You can do OK as a medic but mostly if you can stay relatively calm, do basic 1st aid & have a strong back (& stomach) –you can be a medic. That’s why they will never make “pornographic sums” of money.

  • tascosa

    I would call an ins agent,, they can quote the same plans with out going thru the healthcare website and all the BS . Cant help with the doc though.

  • justquitnow

    I was watching a lot of Sky News just before and after the British government sold off their postal service. The people in charge of the sale, vastly underestimated the price, and then they all made bank with the initial IPO offering of the new postal company. All of us need to stop electing politicians that are there to crash government and make money in the short term.

    • BagLady

      Look at any sale of public institutions anywhere in the world and you’ll find a ‘fire sale’. How do you reckon we got oligarchs?

      I do not suggest for one minute that governments can run a pee-up in a brewery but that doesn’t mean that the chosen alternative does any better and the partnership between politicians and rich mates where $millions of tax money is handed over horrifies me.

      In every instance of these sales, the organisation becomes top heavy. The public service side is always ‘streamlined’ whilst, at the same time, prices rise and huge salaries and bonuses are paid at the top regardless of performance.

      Hardly ‘capitalism’ at work.

  • alpha2actual

    You “hate your profit driven Right Wing system” then leave. Go to Cuba, or better yet migrate to a British like National Health Care System and die. Are you aware of the fact that the tiny state of Rhode Island has more MRI machines than Canada?