The Lies They Tell

F120102IR01The Palestinian Authority’s chief negotiator and ranking member, Saeb Erekat, is once again stirring controversy and fabricating history.  Taking cue from his boss, Mahmoud Abbas, who just days prior accused Israel of committing “genocide, “ Erekat absurdly charged Israel with killing 12,000 Gazans during Operation Defensive Edge and, just as ludicrous, alleged that 96% of all casualties sustained were civilians. Where he derives his facts he does not say, but who really cares about facts when Israel is the target of the invective?  Just days later, Erekat compounded the vitriolic slander by comparing Prime Minister Netanyahu to ISIS and then went on to charge the Jewish State with burning mosques and churches. Of course, Erekat offers not a scintilla of evidence to back the spurious charge, but no matter: His professed Palestinian pedigree (he’s actually from Jordan by way of Arabia) gives him a free pass to fabricate.

Of course, this isn’t the first time that Erekat engaged in mendacious historical revisionism. In April 2002 Israeli forces embarked upon a counter-insurgency campaign in the city of Jenin – dubbed the suicide capital of the West Bank – to rout terror nests that had taken root there and, in an effort to minimize civilian casualties, utilized less lethal methods, incurring greater casualties as a result. When the battle was over, some 52 Palestinians were killed, the vast majority of them PLO and Hamas combatants. That did not stop the deceitful Erekat from claiming that a “massacre” had taken place in which upwards of 500 people – all civilians of course – were killed. Even after a UN commission of inquiry determined that there was in fact no massacre, Erekat refused to issue a retraction, stubbornly clinging to his defamatory fiction.

Not to be outdone, Erekat’s PLO colleague and terrorist apologist Hanan Ashrawi accused Prime Minister Netanyahu of invoking slander, hate language and obfuscation in his recent address in the UN General Assembly. Really, Hanan? Do you want to go down that road? In July, when confronted with pointed questions by a CNN reporter concerning Hamas’s use of UN schools to store rockets, a stumped Ashrawi laughed awkwardly and then deflected, whitewashing blatant Hamas violations of the laws of war.

In March 2013, Ashrawi’s Western funded NGO published a text, in Arabic of course, that repeated the medieval anti-Semitic blood libel that Jews use the blood of Christian children to bake Passover matzah. When challenged, Ashrawi initially attacked the blogger who exposed the canard. She eventually issued an apology for the piece but only after being confronted with the possible loss of Western funding. In other words, her actions were dictated by pecuniary considerations rather than genuine remorse for propagating the most ancient of blood libels.

Erekat’s and Ashrawi’s lies don’t fall far from the poisonous tree. Their boss, ostensibly a moderate, completed his dissertation on Holocaust denial. In the 1980s, Abbas showed us what “Palestinian scholarship” was capable of when he published a malevolent work which, among other gems, posited that less than 1,000,000 Jews were killed by the Nazis and that gas chambers were never employed to murder Jews. Neither the EU nor the Obama administration has taken Abbas to task for spewing such venomous hate, preferring to sweep such inconvenient indiscretions under the rug.

On September 26, in a speech before the General Assembly, Abbas, let loose with an anti-Semitic screed that would have made his Hitler-admiring icon, Haj Amin el-Husseini, proud. Chief among his lies was that Israel was waging a “war of genocide” against the “Palestinian people.” That slander proved too much to bear even for the normally hostile State Department, prompting a stern rebuke from its spokeswoman, Jen Psaki.

The notion that a Palestinian leader — any Palestinian leader — can make a statement these days without lying through his teeth is laughable. Hamas does not have a monopoly on making outrageous statements and accusations. Its partner in crime, the Palestinian Authority routinely spews forth the vilest of lies designed to vilify Israel and its obscenities often veer into blatant anti-Semitism.

In his address to the General Assembly, Prime Minister Netanyahu highlighted several important matters concerning regional and international threats, including Iran’s proliferation activities, Hezbollah, ISIS and Hamas. But of all the threats Israel faces, perhaps none is more insidious than that posed by Mahmoud Abbas’s Palestinian Authority. Whereas ISIS, Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas wear their colors on their sleeves and mince no words when discussing their desire to eradicate Israel (and the West), the PA is more circumspect, preferring to cloud its nefarious desires with platitudes and vague but clearly menacing statements.

In point of fact, the only discernable difference between Hamas and the PA is that members of the latter wear ties. What is crystal clear and beyond dispute is that as long as the PA continues its campaign of vilification, incitement and lies, peace will be as elusive as ever.

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  • HermitLion

    For a daily exposé of the pal-Arab lies (and they truly have no bottom), check out Thomas Wictor. Never look at the recent Gaza war the same!

    http://www.thomaswictor.com/four-boys-on-the-gaza-beach/

    • sylence

      Thomas is trying to justify the killing of four boys on the beach. Or put the blame on the palestinians, while at least a dozen of reporters from the hotel saw what was going on at that very moment. It is just sad how many israelis lost their humanity, but than again, stanford prison experiment showed that such behaviour is expected from the “guards”…

      • HermitLion

        Actually, Thomas succeeds in exposing the lies of the media, which fabricated the “four boys killed by Israel” story for consumption of people like yourself.

        It shows that Gazan-Arabs have no humanity, that the world media collaborates with their intentional murder of children for propaganda purposes, and that your Judeophobia is larger than your capacity for reason.

        • sylence

          Oh really? So he exposed all of my experience in the West Bank as fabrication as well? Believe what you want, I know what I saw. And while you question my capacity for reason, try some retrospection if you are capable of it.

          • HermitLion

            Thomas Wictor, by the way, isn’t an Israeli. He’s a person that got motivated by scum like you to do some research.

            Unlike you, he actually knows how to deduce facts from images; he doesn’t need to keep his mind closed to information, and indulge in hatred in order to feel accomplished.

            Here are some more inconvenient facts for you to ignore:

            The IDF did not kill mustafa tamimi
            http://www.thomaswictor.com/idf-did-not-kill-mustafa-tamimi/

            The not-dead little girl
            http://www.thomaswictor.com/not-dead-little-girl/

            Insanely fake stats touted by Israel haters
            http://www.thomaswictor.com/insanely-fake-touted-by-israel-haters/

            I know you won’t read them, but the more you reply to me, the more truths I’ll put out for other people to click on.
            So, go ahead, you jihadist shill. Make some more empty assertions ;)

          • sylence

            I can also post links here, no problem, but that is not what I want to point out.
            Now, let me show you an example of retrospection

            - “He’s a person that got motivated by scum like you to do some research.”
            This sentence is motivated by hate.
            - “Unlike you…”
            The start of the sentence starts with an insult, hate driven as well
            - “…and indulge in hatred in order to feel accomplished.”
            That is a presumption based on no evidence whatsoever, based on prejudice, thus hate out of ignorance
            - “So, go ahead, you jihadist shill. Make some more empty assertions ;)”
            Prejudice, racism, hate.

            Now, based on my post above, what made you think I was “hate” driven? Because my way of thinking is not like yours, thus it makes me a hater, jihadist and scum?

            Now go on, post more links to your “truth” if it makes you feel better.

          • HermitLion

            THE LIE THAT ISRAEL USES “BANNED WEAPONS”
            http://www.thomaswictor.com/lie-that-israel-uses-banned-weapons/
            THE IDF DID NOT SHOOT BASSEM ABU RAHMEH
            http://www.thomaswictor.com/idf-did-not-shoot-bassem-abu-rahmeh/
            EXPOSING THE LIES OF AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL
            http://www.thomaswictor.com/the-lies-of-amnesty-international/

            I wonder, do they pay you by check, or PayPal? Those Judeophobe jobs must pay well for you to spend all this time online arguing with strangers. No real work you qualify for?

          • sylence

            I have work and my own firm, which is doing good thanks for asking.

            What I have concluded is that the extreme jews/zionists are no different from ISIL. Hate, arrogance, prejudice, convition and no substance. Now please continue, as by every post like the one above, more and more you prove my point.

          • HermitLion

            Tell you what: three more, then you can go run to your buddies, and tell them you’ve done a good job on frontpagemag. Hopefully they’ll believe you, and you can all sit and hate on Jews together for the rest of the day ;)

            DEBUNKING THE LIES OF HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH
            http://www.thomaswictor.com/lies-of-human-rights-watch/

            FAKE PHOTOS SEND A MESSAGE
            http://www.thomaswictor.com/fake-photos-send-a-message/

            WHO KILLED THE FOUR BOYS ON THE GAZA BEACH?
            http://www.thomaswictor.com/four-boys-on-the-gaza-beach/

          • sylence

            So all the links come from only one source? Now that is what I call “open minded”..

          • http://www.chaverimisrael.org Norbert Haag

            Yes sure if the Muslim barbarians have to be shown as the reckless killers they are, because you can not cover up their atrocities anymore even to a gullible western audience, at least the Jews have to be pictured as even worse.

            You are running out of credibility even with those dumb wits that used to wear pro pali t-shirts.

          • sylence

            Do you even realise how racist you sound? I know you don’t or if you do, you don’t care, but it doesn’t matter. You live with that hate, not me.

          • http://www.chaverimisrael.org Norbert Haag

            Since when is a religion a race. Do zoo even realise how uneducated you sound?

          • sylence

            There is no facepalm that large after what you just said.

            “Racism consists of both prejudice and discrimination based in social perceptions of biological differences between peoples. Some definitions of racism also include discriminatory behaviors and beliefs based on cultural, national, ethnic, caste, or religious stereotypes.”

            If you would open a book sometimes, it would do good for your withering intelect. If you know what a book is….

          • http://www.chaverimisrael.org Norbert Haag

            yeah in the left wing new speak racism is everything they don’t like.

            There used to be a good definition of racism before your creed started to redefine it.

            I stop the talk to you here, you are simply not on a level to exchange concepts and opinions.

            I have no intend to define each and every word just because you have a different definition as the general public.

            Have a great life.

          • sylence

            Yes, I think it is best for us to stop speaking as I can not go to such a low level as you to exchange concepts and opinions.

            I will not wish you a great life, because you already have one as ignorance is bliss.

          • http://www.chaverimisrael.org Norbert Haag

            yes and arrogance is the hallmark of left-wingers.

          • Gee

            You better learn to read.

            Definition of racism – the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

            prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.

            You are an ignorant liar.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            OK, you’re right…but…in the modern lexicon a racist is anyone that opposes the left.

          • Bert

            You will notice that the Jew haters have to search hard for their rare needle in the haystack while ignoring 1,400 years of Islamic evil and the greatest land grab in history – 10 million square miles and over 50 countries stolen. The Jew haters conveniently ignore the many innocent casualties in America’s wars including Obama bombing weddings and funeral processions. The Jew hater always relies on lies and double standards. Fortunately more and more people are getting informed and are rejecting brazen attempts to fabricate reality in the service of Islamic terrorism.

          • sylence

            Oh I don’t have to search hard…a simple google search will do and it will have millions of pages. But I guess you didn’t bother doing it for fun, just to see how many are for Palestine.

            And to call me a jew-hater because I have different opinion..Wow..Is that something new from lowlifes like you?

          • yoelk

            You are simply a troll, a liar, a propagandist ( paid or not) or delusional at best. Peddle your fabrications to David Duke.

          • sylence

            Mr. Intelligence, you base your accusations on what exactly?
            It is funny how you people degrade yourself to such a low level of existence. And to top it all off, there is no place in your little tiny worlds for different opinions. None whatsoever. And you call yourself “civilised” and “openminded”. Simply astonishing.

          • Gee

            Get off our lands. Jordanian colonists have no rights in Judea and Samaria. Go or we will make you go

          • sylence

            Where did your parents live before coming to Israel?

          • iluvisrael

            my great, great grandparents did – there has been a Jewish presence in Israel for thousands of years you dunce.

          • sylence

            Let me ask you again, where did your parent live before coming to Israel?

          • http://www.thomaswictor.com/ Thomas Edward Wictor

            All his links don’t come from only one source. Every single one of my posts has multiple sources, most of them hostile to Israel.

            I’m not political or religious. The reason I debunk the lies about Israel is because Israelis and Jews don’t deserve the treatment they get from the demented world.

            All groups have a pecking order. The world has decided that Israel is going to be the punching bag for every dysfunctional society out there. That’s not acceptable.

            My posts are intended to give Israelis and Jews ammunition to defend themselves and to not feel guilt over LIES and SLANDER.

            Munitions don’t lie, and you can’t argue with holes. If the damage isn’t consistent with Israeli munitions, that means the Israelis didn’t do the damage.

            That’s hard to accept for people who are emotionally invested in the notion that Israel is the new Third Reich, but that’s your problem, not mine.

          • sylence

            “My posts are intended to give Israelis and Jews ammunition to defend themselves and to not feel guilt over LIES and SLANDER.”
            I have not seen guilt on their faces, with or without “ammunition”.

            ” If the damage isn’t consistent with Israeli munitions, that means the Israelis didn’t do the damage.”

            Are you serious? I will ask again, are you really serious? So it is impossible for the IDF to use different ammo, because they don’t know how to use it?

            Please, don’t make me laugh…

            “That’s hard to accept for people who are emotionally invested in the notion that Israel is the new Third Reich, but that’s your problem, not mine.”

            This should be everyones problem. If you did your “research”, maybe a visit or two to the west bank, and not just the settlments, you would probably see it.

          • iluvisrael

            What difference does it make, you Jew envying clown.

          • sylence

            Because at this point in time, you are the immigrants.

          • Giborei1967

            More Tqqqiya Lies, sharamuta. The Israelis are the aboriginals in Israel, you, the Arabs are the invading barbarians, the squatters, the OCCUPIERS and the SETTLERS! Go back to Arabia.

          • NSNZ

            Get ……. silenced!

          • sylence

            Mature.

          • Giborei1967

            In Judea!

          • Gee

            A place called ISRAEL – you might have heard of it.

          • sylence

            Yes, but I don’t seem to recall there was a land named israel before 1948. do you? maybe way way back, some 3000 years before?

          • Giborei1967

            In ISRAEL,moron, since 1300 B.C.E.!

  • swemson

    I believe these people are genetically incapable of telling the truth about anything

    There is no dealing with these sub-human 7th century barbarians, and after more than 1,200 years of marrying their 1st cousins, calling them “sub-human” may in fact be a scientifically accurate assessment of their status in relation to all the other races. As Ann Barnhardt pointed out in her article published in American Thinker:

    “The Keystone of the Islamic Milieu:” Inbreeding

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/the_keystone_of_the_islamic_mi.html
    ————————————-
    “According to the BBC, 55% of Pakistani-Britons are married to a first cousin, and as a corollary to that produce “just under a third” of all children in the UK with genetic illnesses, despite being only 3% of the total births.

    As a direct result of inbreeding, the Muslim population is the only population on earth that is mentally and physically devolving.”
    ————————————-
    Considering the almost 1,500 years of murder, mayhem and misery that the muslims and their abhorrent cult of death has brought down upon all civilized peoples, I suspect that Israel would be doing the world a favor if she dealt with them the way General Black Jack Pershing did.
    http://www.swemson.com/upl/BJP.jpg
    fs

  • Barry Meridian

    Elder also has a great article on the lies of Erekat.

    http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2014/09/saeb-erekat-describes-his-strategy-of.html#.VC1ziGddXTo
    Saeb Erekat describes his strategy of lying
    Tuesday, September 30, 2014

    Yesterday, PLO negotiator Saeb Erekat added another to his long list of lies that he spouts to the media, and this one was a doozy:

    Escalating the Palestinian leadership’s rhetorical assault on Israel, the chief Palestinian Authority negotiator, Saeb Erekat, on Monday claimed that 96 percent of Gazans killed in the summer’s Israel-Hamas conflict were civilians, reiterated PA President Mahmoud Abbas’s charge of Israeli “genocide,” and accused Israel of seeking to impose apartheid on the Palestinians.

    Erekat, in the radio interview, defined genocide as “a direct attempt to eliminate, horrify, relocate, destroy a way of life” and claimed “Israel committed the killing of 12,000 and wounding 12,000 Palestinians; 96 percent of them are civilians.”
    Not even the most extreme anti-Israel Gaza NGO claimed that 96% of those killed in Gaza were civilians, or that 12,000 were killed.

    The radio interview is in English and these absurd lies can be heard at the 30 second mark here. He also says Israel “demolished” 50,000 homes (according to anti-Israel site Electronic Intifada, 15,670 homes were damaged, not demolished,) and that 500,000 Gazans are homeless (that is the maximum number displaced during the war but only about 50,000 remain in shelters as of a few weeks ago.)

    I cannot remember a single interview of his or article he’s written that was not filled with lies.

    So how can Erekat continue to lie so openly and brazenly in literally every statement he ever makes in public? What is behind it?

    It turns out that Erekat explains his strategy perfectly – in his response to Netanyahu’s speech at the UN yesterday:

    Chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said, “There’s a saying that if you don’t stop a man who is lying after 24 hours, the lies turn into facts. That’s what happened to Netanyahu.”This saying is Erekat’s credo!

    He lies, not one reporter – even the interviewer from Israel Army Radio here – bothers to counter his lies in any timely fashion, and Erekat wins! His lies turn into facts for his audience, or at the very least they are considered a legitimate part of the “narrative.” He literally lives his life by the saying “if you don’t stop a man who is lying after 24 hours, the lies turn into facts.”

    No one has the guts to tell him that he is a liar to his face and list all his lies, chapter and verse. And it is a very long list.

    Erekat knows that once he puts his lies out there, no one will counter him – after all, he is a “moderate” and a “peacemaker,” and reporters aren’t conditioned to believe that a soft-spoken man in a suit who is considered a “moderate” will lie right to their faces.

    There is literally no negative repercussion to Erekat’s constant lies. So…why shouldn’t he continue them?

    (By the way, for all the PLO officials who railed against Bibi’s “lies,” not one of them actually cited any.)

  • PerceiveToBeWise

    It appears that few understand taqiyya and kitman. These are Islamic terms used to justify lying in order to promote Islam or Islamic rules, countries, negotiations, or for political gain, etc.

    Taqiyya is typically used to defend oneself as a minority and many times is used to escape punishment. It is primarily Shia based.

    The examples given in the article are kitman based lies for the political purposes in order to fight their enemy (Israel) or gain political advantage over their enemy. Kitman is used by both Sunni and Shia Islamic sects.

    You cannot fight, defeat, or negotiate properly with an adversary unless you know how they think and with Islam about their ideology which is diametrically opposed to freedom and truth.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitman
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya

  • objectivefactsmatter

    “Liberal” educated jihadi:

    Saeb Erekat
    Born: April 28, 1955 (age 59), Abu Dis
    Parents: Muhammad Erekat
    Party: Fatah
    Education: University of Bradford, University of San Francisco, San Francisco State University