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		<title>By: vnamvet1969</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vnamvet1969]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2014 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How can so many, be so stupid.  We will not survive 2 more years of this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can so many, be so stupid.  We will not survive 2 more years of this.</p>
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		<title>By: WW4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WW4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2014 15:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Just as we see in the job market, the tax payer is picking up the slack to save the corporations money.&quot; Yes, now, the taxpayer is picking up the slack. Prior to that, it was the consumer who picked up the slack of those who did not have coverage or (if covered) couldn&#039;t afford treatment. One way or another, WE PAY.



Prior to the ACA, here, our health care system was the Titanic, heading toward that iceberg of costs we were incurring. People&#039;s insurance prices were going to skyrocket no matter who was in office. What Republicans always fail to mention is that they either A. Decided not to take leadership and pretended everything was fine because the quality of care we had was still high; or B. Did take leadership, and offered plans that have a lot in common with the ACA.


Republicans can win short term over the ACA, but what their alternative really is--and how different it is either from the ACA or the old model--remains to be seen. I don&#039;t know if anyone outside Ron Paul has proposed anything that could be actually called &quot;conservative.&quot; Something like that would also have to have the economic ecosystem to match--something like your Namibian dentist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just as we see in the job market, the tax payer is picking up the slack to save the corporations money.&#8221; Yes, now, the taxpayer is picking up the slack. Prior to that, it was the consumer who picked up the slack of those who did not have coverage or (if covered) couldn&#8217;t afford treatment. One way or another, WE PAY.</p>
<p>Prior to the ACA, here, our health care system was the Titanic, heading toward that iceberg of costs we were incurring. People&#8217;s insurance prices were going to skyrocket no matter who was in office. What Republicans always fail to mention is that they either A. Decided not to take leadership and pretended everything was fine because the quality of care we had was still high; or B. Did take leadership, and offered plans that have a lot in common with the ACA.</p>
<p>Republicans can win short term over the ACA, but what their alternative really is&#8211;and how different it is either from the ACA or the old model&#8211;remains to be seen. I don&#8217;t know if anyone outside Ron Paul has proposed anything that could be actually called &#8220;conservative.&#8221; Something like that would also have to have the economic ecosystem to match&#8211;something like your Namibian dentist.</p>
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		<title>By: BagLady</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BagLady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No it&#039;s  not.  You just can&#039;t be a**d to explain, Mr Lazy Bones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No it&#8217;s  not.  You just can&#8217;t be a**d to explain, Mr Lazy Bones.</p>
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		<title>By: BagLady</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/desperate-times-for-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-5389873</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BagLady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find it sad for the world that your business model of health provision for the people has caused such damage in the science and ricocheted around the greedy  world, impeding progress.

There are certain articles in your Bill of Human Rights that should be exempt from profit and taxation and available equally to all.  It is those many  unnecessary people in this profitable food chain that should be scrapped, not the front-line providers.  

The right to life is THE most basic human right and we are failing at even this level.  

It used to be that a doctor was rewarded because he saved a life.  Nowadays, hospitals in Britain receive a lump sum of around $50 for  every old person they kill off.

That&#039;s because they have followed your American model and we now have rich blokes buying hospitals and old folks homes at knock down prices.  Home grown doctors and nurses are being replaced by Eastern &#039;medics&#039;.  In Britain it is against the human rights of a nurse to be required to speak English and if you have ever traveled, you will know that a medical degree is very easy to acquire with very little experience.  

I find it all rather frightening and if I feel something dreadful coming on, I shall either fly to Beijing or, depending on severity, somewhere like Namibia where, strangely enough, one can walk into a German dentist and receive the best treatment in the world immediately.  One can get out of his chair and walk next door to a German doctor who will happily perform simple scalpel operations on the spot.  If one is of a mind, it is possible to pop next door and deliver a baby.  All these services are immediate and at affordable prices.

My money is on Health Tourism.  The alternative seems to be death by rip-off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it sad for the world that your business model of health provision for the people has caused such damage in the science and ricocheted around the greedy  world, impeding progress.</p>
<p>There are certain articles in your Bill of Human Rights that should be exempt from profit and taxation and available equally to all.  It is those many  unnecessary people in this profitable food chain that should be scrapped, not the front-line providers.  </p>
<p>The right to life is THE most basic human right and we are failing at even this level.  </p>
<p>It used to be that a doctor was rewarded because he saved a life.  Nowadays, hospitals in Britain receive a lump sum of around $50 for  every old person they kill off.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because they have followed your American model and we now have rich blokes buying hospitals and old folks homes at knock down prices.  Home grown doctors and nurses are being replaced by Eastern &#8216;medics&#8217;.  In Britain it is against the human rights of a nurse to be required to speak English and if you have ever traveled, you will know that a medical degree is very easy to acquire with very little experience.  </p>
<p>I find it all rather frightening and if I feel something dreadful coming on, I shall either fly to Beijing or, depending on severity, somewhere like Namibia where, strangely enough, one can walk into a German dentist and receive the best treatment in the world immediately.  One can get out of his chair and walk next door to a German doctor who will happily perform simple scalpel operations on the spot.  If one is of a mind, it is possible to pop next door and deliver a baby.  All these services are immediate and at affordable prices.</p>
<p>My money is on Health Tourism.  The alternative seems to be death by rip-off.</p>
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		<title>By: The March Hare</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The March Hare]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There may be a lot of RINOS in the Republican party, but there are some genuine conservatives as well. The electorate needs to educate themselves as to each candidate and primary those who are liberals/RINOS. Yes, it is left/right. Avoiding the election of leftists is the game and the Republican party is the only place it is going to happen. You won&#039;t find any conservatives running on the Democrat ticket. When you just vote Republican without getting educated as to who that candidate is, it will end up seeming like a one party system. You need to learn the true position of each candidate and go to the primaries to get the right (not left) candidate running and then elected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There may be a lot of RINOS in the Republican party, but there are some genuine conservatives as well. The electorate needs to educate themselves as to each candidate and primary those who are liberals/RINOS. Yes, it is left/right. Avoiding the election of leftists is the game and the Republican party is the only place it is going to happen. You won&#8217;t find any conservatives running on the Democrat ticket. When you just vote Republican without getting educated as to who that candidate is, it will end up seeming like a one party system. You need to learn the true position of each candidate and go to the primaries to get the right (not left) candidate running and then elected.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, Was-Shultz,Pelousy and the rest of the cohort are in a class of their own.Unbeatabled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Was-Shultz,Pelousy and the rest of the cohort are in a class of their own.Unbeatabled.</p>
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		<title>By: BagLady</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/desperate-times-for-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-5389836</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BagLady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Go on then.  Give us the figures.  Seems to me -- from my position on a far away fence -- that the only ones to benefit from this disastrous Bill are insurance  and drug companies.... as per usual.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go on then.  Give us the figures.  Seems to me &#8212; from my position on a far away fence &#8212; that the only ones to benefit from this disastrous Bill are insurance  and drug companies&#8230;. as per usual.</p>
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		<title>By: Markdpez</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Markdpez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2014 01:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like to think that Baghdad Bob was in a class all by himself, but Carney, Wass-Shultz and Piglosi have made legitimate challenges to the world title.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to think that Baghdad Bob was in a class all by himself, but Carney, Wass-Shultz and Piglosi have made legitimate challenges to the world title.</p>
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		<title>By: Markdpez</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/desperate-times-for-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-5389570</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Markdpez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2014 01:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blaming the insurance companies for this dem created mouse trap does nothing but verify that you have been duped once again like Charlie Brown by Lucie. Dems could never succeed without their dinasour media watercarriers and millions of dullards like yourself. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blaming the insurance companies for this dem created mouse trap does nothing but verify that you have been duped once again like Charlie Brown by Lucie. Dems could never succeed without their dinasour media watercarriers and millions of dullards like yourself. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.</p>
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		<title>By: nightspore</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nightspore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m fascinated by all the things these people have to deny these days. They have to deny that it&#039;s cold outside. They have to deny that health care costs are exploding. They have to deny that there&#039;s a crisis in the Middle East. They have to deny that there are any problems in Latin America.  Etc. etc. These guys may be the biggest &quot;denialists&quot; in human history - or at least since Baghdad Bob.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m fascinated by all the things these people have to deny these days. They have to deny that it&#8217;s cold outside. They have to deny that health care costs are exploding. They have to deny that there&#8217;s a crisis in the Middle East. They have to deny that there are any problems in Latin America.  Etc. etc. These guys may be the biggest &#8220;denialists&#8221; in human history &#8211; or at least since Baghdad Bob.</p>
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		<title>By: physicsnut</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[physicsnut]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[isnt that great - now your insurance costs as much as your mortgage or rent. If not more. Just great. I love being driven into poverty. Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>isnt that great &#8211; now your insurance costs as much as your mortgage or rent. If not more. Just great. I love being driven into poverty. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: justquitnow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[justquitnow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I sure hope something can be done to spare the insurance company executives any stress. I&#039;m afraid it might impede their ability to push paper and trick money out of the system.  How are profits suppose to keep going up when there are caps and regulations and you actually have to pay for medical care?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sure hope something can be done to spare the insurance company executives any stress. I&#8217;m afraid it might impede their ability to push paper and trick money out of the system.  How are profits suppose to keep going up when there are caps and regulations and you actually have to pay for medical care?</p>
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		<title>By: Hass</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What he said is self explanatory. &quot;The AMA is a leftist joke&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What he said is self explanatory. &#8220;The AMA is a leftist joke&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BagLady</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/desperate-times-for-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-5389301</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BagLady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is that it, black/white, left/right?  What difference anyway.  You seem to have one system regardless of Rep/Dem majority that benefits the middlemen rather that the suppliers of healthcare. 

Same thing happening in Britain, where quality has been replaced by ... I was going to say quantity but, as more and more hospitals close down and frontline medics are replaced by imported &#039;doctors&#039;, many with  fake documents and, no doubt, reduced salaries,  one wonders where the money goes.  

The argument put forward is -- in the spirit of 21st century anti-logical thinking -- that for-profit companies are far more &#039;driven&#039; to provide the best service than central government inept, overpaid, corrupt, blah blah blah departments.  

True, but they have been given a totally free rein and we can see from the cost/service ratio that the introduction of profit has had catastrophic effects on our health systems simply because there are no curbs on greed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that it, black/white, left/right?  What difference anyway.  You seem to have one system regardless of Rep/Dem majority that benefits the middlemen rather that the suppliers of healthcare. </p>
<p>Same thing happening in Britain, where quality has been replaced by &#8230; I was going to say quantity but, as more and more hospitals close down and frontline medics are replaced by imported &#8216;doctors&#8217;, many with  fake documents and, no doubt, reduced salaries,  one wonders where the money goes.  </p>
<p>The argument put forward is &#8212; in the spirit of 21st century anti-logical thinking &#8212; that for-profit companies are far more &#8216;driven&#8217; to provide the best service than central government inept, overpaid, corrupt, blah blah blah departments.  </p>
<p>True, but they have been given a totally free rein and we can see from the cost/service ratio that the introduction of profit has had catastrophic effects on our health systems simply because there are no curbs on greed.</p>
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		<title>By: BagLady</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BagLady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 13:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A little extrapolation for we foreigners would be interesting]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little extrapolation for we foreigners would be interesting</p>
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		<title>By: BagLady</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BagLady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 13:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, Pelosi said Congress had to pass the bill to see what&#039;s in it&quot; 



Eh? Can&#039;t they read?  Can&#039;t they follow the money?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Pelosi said Congress had to pass the bill to see what&#8217;s in it&#8221; </p>
<p>Eh? Can&#8217;t they read?  Can&#8217;t they follow the money?</p>
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		<title>By: BagLady</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/desperate-times-for-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-5389296</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BagLady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 13:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You all see the problem as Socialism whilst I see it as an escalation of a problem that already existed and was exacerbated by the American Dream. 

 It stands to reason you can&#039;t reduce your city  to a Delhi-like situation where bodies lie around the place and, since we have the Human Right of medical assistance,  everyone must be scooped up and treated by a &#039;qualified&#039; medic regardless of status.

Insurance companies are intermediaries and should be paid a relative percentage profit for their input.  As it is, their profits are such that their is little left for the &#039;qualified&#039; medic.

Just as we see in the job market, the tax payer is picking up the slack to save the corporations money.

I see a lot of criticism but not a lot of &#039;system design&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You all see the problem as Socialism whilst I see it as an escalation of a problem that already existed and was exacerbated by the American Dream. </p>
<p> It stands to reason you can&#8217;t reduce your city  to a Delhi-like situation where bodies lie around the place and, since we have the Human Right of medical assistance,  everyone must be scooped up and treated by a &#8216;qualified&#8217; medic regardless of status.</p>
<p>Insurance companies are intermediaries and should be paid a relative percentage profit for their input.  As it is, their profits are such that their is little left for the &#8216;qualified&#8217; medic.</p>
<p>Just as we see in the job market, the tax payer is picking up the slack to save the corporations money.</p>
<p>I see a lot of criticism but not a lot of &#8216;system design&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Libslayer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Libslayer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 04:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today&#039;s AMA is a leftist joke.
Most doctors ignore this batty organization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s AMA is a leftist joke.<br />
Most doctors ignore this batty organization.</p>
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		<title>By: vicki s</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vicki s]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2014 19:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OKn now that we are furious, what can we do about it, aside from voting Republican?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OKn now that we are furious, what can we do about it, aside from voting Republican?</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Townsend</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randy Townsend]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, Pelosi said Congress had to pass the bill to see what&#039;s in it. They did, and despite Obama&#039;s best efforts, the truth is coming out. Still, Pelosi says she&#039;s &quot;proud&quot; of Obamacare and urges Dims to &quot;run on it and not away from it&quot; in 2014. We, the people, are getting exactly what we deserve - we elected the Dims to a  majority and will soon have the opportunity to vote again. If we don&#039;t throw those bastards out in mass, no one should complain when they (with RINO assistance, of course) make 20,000,000 ex-mexicans newly minted Dim voters. At that point, Obamacare will fade from view... as will what&#039;s left of America.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Pelosi said Congress had to pass the bill to see what&#8217;s in it. They did, and despite Obama&#8217;s best efforts, the truth is coming out. Still, Pelosi says she&#8217;s &#8220;proud&#8221; of Obamacare and urges Dims to &#8220;run on it and not away from it&#8221; in 2014. We, the people, are getting exactly what we deserve &#8211; we elected the Dims to a  majority and will soon have the opportunity to vote again. If we don&#8217;t throw those bastards out in mass, no one should complain when they (with RINO assistance, of course) make 20,000,000 ex-mexicans newly minted Dim voters. At that point, Obamacare will fade from view&#8230; as will what&#8217;s left of America.</p>
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