Gaza Flotilla Terrorists Set Sail Again

mavi marmaraApparently more than willing to pour gasoline on an already raging fire, an anti-Israeli Turkish relief organization, IHH Humanitarian Relief Foundation, is organizing a “Freedom Flotilla II” to bring “humanitarian” supplies to the Gaza strip. The IHH is the organization responsible for the last attempt to break the Israeli naval blockade of Gaza in a self-inflicted disaster that saw nine Hamas-affiliated terrorists killed by Israeli commandos, who were attacked when they attempted to board the Mavi Marmara. IHH chairman Bulent Yildrim warns that this time, the flotilla will be accompanied by Turkish Navy vessels to “protect us from any potential attack.”

As of now, no firm date has been set for this latest effort to incite a violent confrontation with the Jewish State, but Yildrim insists that once the necessary permit from the authorities in Ankara is approved, the activists will set sail. Yildrim is inviting activists who participated in the 2010 trip to join the cause. The military component is based on a demand by Yildrim  that the Turkish government provide protection for its own citizens.

The move reflects the increasing deterioration of Turkish-Israeli relations, already severely damaged by the 2010 attempt by the Freedom Flotilla I to challenge Israel’s right to block weaponry from entering the Gaza strip.

After the incident aboard the Mavi Marmara, a 2011 UN report by the Palmer Commission concluded Israel was within its legal rights to form the blockade. The report further noted that the naval blockade “was imposed as a legitimate security measure in order to prevent weapons from entering Gaza by sea and its implementation complied with the requirements of international law,” that “the flotilla acted recklessly in attempting to breach the naval blockade,” and that there were “serious questions about the conduct, true nature and objectives of the flotilla organizers, particularly IHH.”

And while the report also concluded that Israel’s boarding of the Mavi Marmara was “excessive and unreasonable,” it noted that “Israeli Defense Forces personnel faced significant, organized and violent resistance from a group of passengers when they boarded the Mavi Marmara requiring them to use force for their own protection.” The panel further recommended that those involved “should consult directly and make every effort to avoid a repetition of the incident.”

That isn’t likely to happen. After the incident and subsequent report, Turkey ejected Israel’s ambassador and recalled its own, but refrained from severing economic ties. But on July 19, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan accused Israel of “barbarism that surpasses Hitler,” regarding its military incursion into Gaza. He further insisted the Jewish State was guilty of using “disproportionate force” that has “derailed efforts to normalize Turkish-Israeli ties,” according to the Associated Press. Erdogan is running for the presidency in elections that will be held next month.

In an interview with The Jerusalem Post, Harold Rhode, a senior fellow at the New-York-based Gatestone Institute and a former adviser on Islamic affairs in the office of the American secretary of defense, insisted that the “real issue” in the current conflict is the effort by Turkey and Qatar to throw their support behind the Muslim Brotherhood and its spawn, Hamas. “Erdogan has been associated with the Muslim Brotherhood long before he was prime minister,” Rhode said further explaining that Erdogan “is doing whatever he can to help Hamas.”

One could make the case the Obama administration is doing the same thing. According to the Times of Israel that nation’s unanimous rejection of Secretary of State John Kerry’s cease fire plan was so ferocious, it was kept quiet in order to avoid “an open diplomatic confrontation with the United States.”

Kerry followed up that visit with one to Paris, where he talked with representatives of none other than Qatar and Turkey, while representatives from Israel, the PLO and Egypt remained uninvited to the table. That would be the same Qatar and Turkey that Israel TV Channel 2’s Middle East analyst Ehud Ya’ari referred to as “Hamas’s lawyers,” and the same nation of Qatar that signed an $11 billion arms deal with the Obama administration that will provide them with Apache attack helicopters, as well as Patriot and Javelin air-defense systems.

Last Friday, Deputy State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf insisted Kerry’s regular contact with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu was necessary because Davutoğlu “is a key player in the region and has some leverage he can bring to bear on the situation. They have a relationship with Hamas. I mean, they can, you know, have conversations that we can’t.”

What conversations are those? On Twitter, Davutoğlu stated that he would talk to “Palestinian parties with the aim of ensuring that merciless attacks targeting our Palestinian brothers come to an immediate end.”

Two days later, the Obama administration disputed the idea that Kerry was pushing a Gaza cease fire plan promoted by Qatar and Turkey. An administration spokesman also disputed the notion that Kerry’s rejected plan was a formal proposal, characterizing it as a draft framework presented for Israeli input and commentary.

President Obama demonstrated an equal amount of contempt for the realities of an Israeli nation that must not only deal with a missile threat exacerbated by a new secret arms deal between Hamas and North Korea, but a system of tunnels so extensive and sophisticated, they represent an existential threat to Israel’s survival. In a phone call to Netanyahu, Obama called for “an immediate, unconditional humanitarian ceasefire that ends hostilities now and leads to a permanent cessation of hostilities.” The White House further revealed that the president “reiterated the United States’ serious and growing concern about the rising number of Palestinian civilian deaths and the loss of Israeli lives, as well as the worsening humanitarian situation in Gaza.”

In other words, the Obama administration couldn’t care less about leaving Israel completely vulnerable to a tunnel system that could render the Iron Dome, the nation’s most effective defensive weapon, obsolete. On Monday, a senior IDF official claimed Israel was in possession of  all the attack tunnels, but that contention was disputed by Hamas spokesman Mushir al-Masri who claimed Israel has reached “only a fraction” of them. “We are convinced that our people are on the brink of liberation,” Masri added.

It is a liberation that IHH intends to facilitate with the possible aid of the Turkish government—and perhaps Obama’s blessing as well. Among the Kerry proposals that reportedly “horrified” the Israeli Cabinet, aside from the idea that Israel accept Hamas’s demands for the opening of border crossings into Gaza, and the opening of a post-war funding channel for Hamas (while the vast network of terror tunnels with exits located in Israel was ignored) was the construction of a Gazan seaport.

The maliciousness of such an idea cannot be overstated. When Israel unilaterally ceded Gaza to the Palestinians in 2005, it signed an Agreement on Movement and Access with the Palestinian Authority. It gave the Palestinians full control over their borders, permitting imports and exports, and included an approval for building a seaport. It was only after Hamas launch a murderous coup against the PLO in 2007 that Israel—as well as Egypt–reimposed border restrictions aimed at keeping the U.S.-designated terrorist group from arming itself. The naval blockade was reinstated, and its necessity was made evident as recently as last March. That’s when Israel seized a ship carrying M-302 surface-to-surface missiles that were flown to Iran from Syria before being loaded aboard the ship headed for Gaza. At the time the IDF revealed this was not the first arms-smuggling ship it had intercepted, but one “distinguished by the lethality and quality of its cargo.”

That reality apparently did nothing to dissuade the Obama administration. During a joint appearance with Kerry last week, Khalid bin Mohamed al-Attiyah of Qatar insisted Gaza “deserves” its own seaport, even “if it’s under international supervision.” The utter impotency of such supervision was laid bare on July 18, when the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) discovered 20 Hamas-owned missiles in one of their very own Gazan schools—and returned them to Hamas two days later. Israel’s Ambassador to the UN Ron Prosor illuminated the reality of international monitoring, at least with regard to Israel. “For years, we told you about the thousands of rockets that Hamas was smuggling into Gaza,” he said. “We were met with silence. Time and again we called on the international community to condemn the rocket fire and we were met with silence.”

The silence surrounding the true nature of IHH is also deafening. Despite its self-promotion as solely a humanitarian organization, Carnegie Endowment analyst Henri Barkey illuminated its greater agenda. “It’s an Islamist organization as it has been deeply involved with Hamas for some time,” he explained. Barkey’s contention echoed a 2006 report by the Danish Institute for International Studies characterizing IHH as one of many “charitable front groups that provide support to al Qaeda” and the global jihad. France’s former top counterterrorism judge, Jean-Louis Bruguiere, noted that his own investigation of IHH in the 1990s revealed they “were basically helping al-Qaida when bin Laden started to want to target U.S. soil,” he said.

Even more important, information acquired in 2011 by Israel’s Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center (ITIC) revealed that Erdogan actively supported the first flotilla. “Without (IHH’s) support, he would not have been elected prime minister,” the ITIC report declared, further noting that a fourth of senior IHH staff members had served, or were serving, in senior position in Erdogan’s AKP political party.

Prior to the first flotilla’s interception by Israel, Yildrim made his organization’s genuine intentions clear, vowing to “break the siege,” adding if Jerusalem “will be in Muslim hands, the whole world will to be in Muslim hands…. The present rulers of Jerusalem are the Jews, the Zionists. All the suffering and the evil in the world today is a result of that. Therefore Jerusalem must be liberated.”

This is the reality behind the first attempt to break the Israeli blockade. If the Turkish Navy supports Freedom Flotilla II, war between Israel and Turkey becomes a real possibility. If such hostilities come to pass, one is left to wonder which side the Obama administration will support. Demanding that Israel cease hostilities even as Hamas retains the capability to threaten the Jewish State’s existence—and even after Israel unilaterally agreed to five cease fires Hamas either rejected or violated—sends a troubling message.


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  • Canada

    What idiots!

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  • IslamDownpressesHumanity

    I hope they don’t run into any errant torpedoes in the Med. The Med can be a dangerous place.

    • Harry_the_Horrible

      There are still mines left over from WWI and WWII, too!

      • IslamDownpressesHumanity

        Yep, you never know when you might run into one of those.

        • Harry_the_Horrible

          Right. Lots of ‘em just broke free and drift.

  • Sharmake Yusuf

    What is really needed is a blockade to stop lethal weapons from the US reaching Israel, a country that deliberately kills women and children!

    Even top respected nobel laureates are now calling for an arms embargo against Israel, which uses deadly weapons irresponsibly!
    It would be impossible to redeem israel’s reputation after the ongoing war crimes in Gaza.


      Maybe if Hamas didn’t plant their rocket launchers in residential areas, schools, hospitals and public places women and children wouldn’t be getting killed. Plant your blame where it belongs, with Hamas. If Israel wasn’t being careful Gaza would have been wiped off the map the first day this conflict started..

    • iluvisrael

      you’re another inbred moslem pig turd – happy ramalamadingdong!

    • Well Done

      “top respected nobel laureates” you say? Who would those be? The only war crimes in Gaza are committed by Hamas. It is NOT a war crime to target combatants, their weapons, their barracks, their transportation, regardless who they hide behind. It IS a crime to hide behind civilians.

      • Sharmake Yusuf

        Why cant Israelis just go back to Eastern Europe where they used to live (and caused so much mischief?).
        A jewish state in Middle East has just become unsustainable…

        • StanleyT

          Well, partly that’s because more than 60% of the Jewish population of Israel came from the Arab world. Kicked out by your brothers in Egypt, Iraq, Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria etc.
          And just in case you hadn’t noticed, the Jewish state in the Middle East is more than just sustainable. It’s thriving. Which is why all you failed Arab states are frothing at the mouth.

          • Sharmake Yusuf

            Jews were living peacefully in the Arab world before Israel was violently created by zionists from Europe!

            Plus in Israel, the Jews from Arab countries are looked down upon and suffer discrimination by the Jews from Europe.
            The European jews feel more “chosen” than the middle-eastern jews!
            When will Israelis/Jews remove the bug of racism in their minds……that attitude is just causing them to launch too many wars to kill “inferior races” like it is tragically happening in Gaza now!

          • Brooklyn Farmer

            Dhimmis were excluded from public office and armed service, and were forbidden to bear arms. They were not allowed to ride horses or camels, to build synagogues or churches taller than mosques, to construct houses higher than those of Muslims or to drink wine in public. They were not allowed to pray or mourn in loud voices-as that might offend the Muslims. The dhimmi had to show public deference toward Muslims-always yielding them the center of the road. The dhimmi was not allowed to give evidence in court against a Muslim, and his oath was unacceptable in an Islamic court. To defend himself, the dhimmi would have to purchase Muslim witnesses at great expense. This left the dhimmi with little legal recourse when harmed by a Muslim.

            Dhimmis were also forced to wear distinctive clothing. In the ninth century, for example, Baghdad’s Caliph al-Mutawakkil designated a yellow badge for Jews, setting a precedent that would be followed centuries later in Nazi Germany.

            The position of the Jews was never secure, however, and changes in the political or social climate would often lead to persecution, violence and death. Jews were generally viewed with contempt by their Muslim neighbors; peaceful coexistence between the two groups involved the subordination and degradation of the Jews.

            When Jews were perceived as having achieved too comfortable a position in Islamic society, anti-Semitism would surface, often with devastating results: On December 30, 1066, Joseph HaNagid, the Jewish vizier of Granada, Spain, was crucified by an Arab mob that proceeded to raze the Jewish quarter of the city and slaughter its 5,000 inhabitants. The riot was incited by Muslim preachers who had angrily objected to what they saw as inordinate Jewish political power.

            Similarly, in 1465, Arab mobs in Fez slaughtered thousands of Jews, leaving only 11 alive, after a Jewish deputy vizier treated a Muslim woman in “an offensive manner.” The killings touched off a wave of similar massacres throughout Morocco.

            Other mass murders of Jews in Arab lands occurred in Morocco in the 8th century, where whole communities were wiped out by Muslim ruler Idris I; North Africa in the 12th century, where the Almohads either forcibly converted or decimated several communities; Libya in 1785, where Ali Burzi Pasha murdered hundreds of Jews; Algiers, where Jews were massacred in 1805, 1815 and 1830 and Marrakesh, Morocco, where more than 300 hundred Jews were murdered between 1864 and 1880.

            Decrees ordering the destruction of synagogues were enacted in Egypt and Syria (1014, 1293-4, 1301-2), Iraq (854-859, 1344) and Yemen (1676). Despite the Koran’s prohibition, Jews were forced to convert to Islam or face death in Yemen (1165 and 1678), Morocco (1275, 1465 and 1790-92) and Baghdad (1333 and 1344).

          • Harry_the_Horrible

            Sure. They lived peacefully as long as they were “subdued” and paid the Jizyah.
            BTW, when did “Moslem” become a race?

          • Brooklyn Farmer

            As distinguished Orientalist G.E. von Grunebaum has written:

            It would not be difficult to put together the names of a very sizeable number of Jewish subjects or citizens of the Islamic area who have attained to high rank, to power, to great financial influence, to significant and recognized intellectual attainment; and the same could be done for Christians. But it would again not be difficult to compile a lengthy list of persecutions, arbitrary confiscations, attempted forced conversions, or pogroms.

            The situation of Jews in Arab lands reached a low point in the 19th century. Jews in most of North Africa (including Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and Morocco) were forced to live in ghettos. In Morocco, which contained the largest Jewish community in the Islamic Diaspora, Jews were made to walk barefoot or wear shoes of straw when outside the ghetto. Even Muslim children participated in the degradation of Jews, by throwing stones at them or harassing them in other ways. The frequency of anti-Jewish violence increased, and many Jews were executed on charges of apostasy. Ritual murder accusations against the Jews became commonplace in the Ottoman Empire.

            By the twentieth century, the status of the dhimmi in Muslim lands had not significantly improved. H.E.W. Young, British Vice Consul in Mosul, wrote in 1909:

            The attitude of the Muslims toward the Christians and the Jews is that of a master towards slaves, whom he treats with a certain lordly tolerance so long as they keep their place. Any sign of pretension to equality is promptly repressed.

            The danger for Jews became even greater as a showdown approached in the UN over partition in 1947. The Syrian delegate, Faris el-Khouri, warned: “Unless the Palestine problem is settled, we shall have difficulty in protecting and safeguarding the Jews in the Arab world.”

            More than a thousand Jews were killed in anti-Jewish rioting during the 1940’s in Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Syria and Yemen. This helped trigger the mass exodus of Jews from Arab countries.

          • IslamDownpressesHumanity

            This last paragraph represents something I never knew, but should’ve of guessed. I know at one point the elder Assad wouldn’t let Jewish women leave Syria.

          • wileyvet

            This coming from a Muslim whose wretched belief system is comprised of nothing but vicious hatred and bigotry towards all unbelievers. It is practiced doctrine that Muslims are superior to all others because you have the “truth”, and that Kafr are vile and dirty, thus deserving of oppression and persecution at the hands of glorious Muslims. Islam is the foulest doctrine that has ever existed, because its founder, your venerated prophet, was the foulest man that ever existed. It is no wonder that Islam breeds brain dead zombies with an inverted morality and ethics, because Muhammad was a liar, a fraud, a thief, a murderer, a rapist, a slaver, and a pedophile for consummating a marriage with a 9 year old girl. All of the ills in the Islamic world stem directly from your emulation of Muhammad and the moral depravity he created.

          • Viking

            go take a steaming dump in your koran!


            Sharmuta (arabic for WH ORE),

            Your fellow Sharmutas don’t evn get along with each other in Syria. !60,000+ dead thanks to savage Sharmutas like you.

          • IslamDownpressesHumanity

            “living peacefully in the Arab world”. Wow what a lie. Ever heard of the Farhud pogrom in Baghdad? What about the pogrom committed against Jews by muslimes in Jerusalem in 1929?

          • iluvisrael

            Jews lived in arab lands as DHIMMIS – just as all the non moslems do. I know it’s in your DNA to lie – you get it from your rag head mama and goat banging dad.

          • Drakken

            I really hope that Israel eliminates all of you inbred scum of the earth once ad for all time.


            I hope Sharmuta goes to Gaza for some Human Shield work or goes on the Turkish Turd flotilla.

            Either way, he’ll be with his 72 virigins in Nakba-ville.

        • Harry_the_Horrible

          In Israel, Jews, Moslems, and Christians can all live in peace, vote, hold office, serve in the military, etc.
          In Gaza, and West Bank, they destroy anyone who is not a Moslem.
          Maybe when when Moslems learn to live with others, we’ll support them. Until then, we know who is civilized and who is a savage.

        • Gee

          Why can’t Arabs just go back to Arabia whee they used live (and caused so much mischief?).
          All Muslim states in the world have always been unsustainable.

          We the natives of the region are very sustainable.

          End Arab colonization

        • Webb

          Shwarmi, they will help you to have your 72 virgin he-goats in muslim shitholeparadise. Just go be a human shield for a day and join the thousand others.

        • Habbgun

          Bad Bhazi….boy. Your um….services are needed at the public square. You’ve got some dancing to do. Queers for Palestine need their entertainment you know.

          You still haven’t answered me Bhazi boy. Why do gay marriage activists, feminists and convicted criminals love Islam? They hate my religion but they love you.I think it is because they know an exploitable sham when they see one. Do you have a response tiny dancer… a dancer for money…..Maybe you should just change your nickname to Sweet Charity. If they could see you now!!!

    • Webb

      Cry louder O Shwarmi! Your bleating is music to my ears! You dumbass.

    • Habbgun

      Bad, Bad Bhazi boy….bad bhazi. You are supposed to be um…providing emotional support to the sheikh. You are here instead. Back to work.

  • BMS

    Erdogan is a a Jew-hater and an enemy of the Jewish State. If Obama or Kerry had any b@#ls they would tell Erdogan that if he lets that flotilla sail toward Gaza in an attempt to stop the Israeli blockade the USA will be standing right by Israel when they justifiably sink it!

    • Sharmake Yusuf

      How come the US cannot oppose ANY policies/actions of Israelis, even if the israelis are committing war crimes like in gaza?
      I now realize that US zionists control the US government!

      • StanleyT

        You’re funny. (In the head)

      • BMS

        Self-defense is not a war crime!

      • rappini

        All Hamas has to do is stop using their own people and children as shields. Oh and here’s a thought take one of the 5 piece proposals that were offered, mush for brains.

      • bob smith

        give one example of a war crime committed by Israel?

        you are deranged

      • Harry_the_Horrible

        So, what is launching rockets into Israel? A sporting event?

      • Gee

        Islamofascists control the US government. As for war crimes. Bet you can’t even name one, I can provide a list of over 10,000 committed by you racists this week alone

      • Webb

        Because the Israelis are sending you to 72 virgin he-goat paradise, you moron. Don’t you want that? You act like you do. Look on the bright side for a change. Be positive, my friend!

      • Habbgun

        Tut…tut…you are being a very bad bhazi boy! They took out hole in one insurance on you and expected you to be at the Obama fundraiser as the um…..barrel. Where are you instead. Bleating your nonsense here.

        Here’s one. How come Moslems bow down to Leftists? Do you really think we’re fooled believing you bow down to a monotheistic deity. We are not dumb. You are safer in the Marxist institute than in a mosque. How bizarre unless you are a race of bhazi boys.

        So bhazi boy. Do you have an answer. Do you?

    • victoryman

      A newsflash just hit the TV. Kerry’s b@#ls have been found…..preserved in a bottle of Teresa’s private stock of Jack Daniels.

  • justsayin

    Israel should calmly inform Turkey that any Turkish war vessel aiding in crossing the blockade will be sunk. Israel has the ability to thrash anything Turkey could throw at them. A good military match for Turkey would be Mexico.

    • WhiteHunter

      Agreed. A model might be JFK’s quarantine of Cuba in 1962, and his no-nonsense warning to Krushchev: Soviet ships headed to Cuba will be intercepted, stopped, and ordered to heave to for boarding and inspection. Any that refuse to comply will be ordered to turn back; those that don’t will be sunk.

      Remember when Beirut was known as a world banking center and “the Paris of the Middle East,” with sidewalk cafes and tranquil, palm-lined boulevards? That ended the moment Arafat and his gang of cutthroats arrived and promptly turned the city into a terrorist headquarters and war zone.

      Then, incredibly, when the terrorists were finally being beaten to a bloody pulp and faced annihilation at the hands of the Israelis and Christians, they managed to “negotiate” a deal that allowed them to flee with their safely guaranteed, and took off in a flotilla headed for North Africa.

      That was a missed opportunity for the civilized world: Israel should have had a couple of submarines waiting quietly a few miles offshore, and sent the entire fleet and its toxic cargo of scruffy cutthroats to the bottom of the Mediterranean–then strafe any survivors, as we did in the Pacific during World War II.

      It wouldn’t have eliminated the terrorist threat completely, but it would have been a good first step, and buy some time–like cutting out a tumor, and periodically checking the patient to see if the cancer returns.

    • JR Kipling

      That Turkish flag will make a great bulls eye for the first round.

      • Allah is Dead

        Islam is a cancer on the world.

    • Habbgun

      No informing. It will just be fodder for the media. They enter Israeli territory they get a shot across the bow and if they don’t turn they get sunk.

    • Malik Obama

      Unfortunately Turkey is a part of NATO and has the second largest military in it. If Israel attacked Turkey Obama would try to declare war on Israel and get the rest of NATO involved.


        Turkey needs to be kicked out of NATA, kicked out of Cyprus and Constantinople.

        • IslamDownpressesHumanity

          I wonder if any NATO allies besides the US of 0bamastan would come to Turkey’s aid? I’d hope not.

          • Drakken

            No they won’t, there will be the usual protests and letter of concern, but other than that nothing.

          • III
          • victoryman

            No one would help Turkey. Obambi and his moron minions would “monitor the situation, denounce any casualties”…you know, the usual BS.

      • victoryman

        NATO is a joke. Their response to Obambi would be very clear………No Attack Today Obama.

        • WhiteHunter

          I’ve always believed that the 50th anniversary of NATO’s founding, in 1999, should have been nothing more than a self-congratulatory “strike-the-set” cast party gala with the theme of Mission Accomplished. Instead, it merely looked for new missions–or rather, the pretense of them (however vaguely defined and feebly and incompetently executed) to justify its continued existence (sort of like the EPA, come to think of it).

          The alliance was originally organized in 1949 to defend western Europe against Soviet invasion–with the tacit understanding that if it came to war, the U.S. would do nearly all of the fighting. At the time, Europe truly and justifiably feared that threat and both trusted and admired the U.S. as a powerful, invincible big brother.

          None of those conditions still apply today. The Soviets are hardly likely to send armored spearheads dashing through the Fulda Gap to overwhelm western Europe in a blitzkrieg-style strike these days. For one thing, they no longer need to–they have other, less overtly violent ways, to conquer the continent, such as starving European nations that are foolishly dependent of Russian oil and gas.

          Or collapsing the international banking system, which is now so incestuously interlocked that the collapse of one major bank might bring down the others like falling dominoes; there are few firewalls to isolate and contain the damage and keep it from spreading almost instantly.

          Putin is already pulling an encore of the Sudenten crisis–almost scene by scene and act by act, with exactly the same excuse of ‘protecting’ a ‘persecuted ethnic minority’ that Hitler used to dismember Czechoslovakia. It’s already obvious that the Ukranian ‘separatists’ would welcome a Soviet Anschluss.

          Most important of all, Europe won’t fight. Partly due to their well-entrenched Fifth Column of collaborationist leftists (and moslems, of course), and partly because they’ve grown fat, lazy, and complacent while we did the heavy lifting for so many decades–which we can’t anymore, especially not under a radical-left president who hates the U.S. and our military and has done his best to weaken us and undermine our national pride and confidence, not to mention our international reputation as a dependable ally.

          I can’t imagine we’d actively “defend” Turkey against Israel; but it wouldn’t be too hard for somebody like Obama to make Israel’s job of winning much harder and more dangerous–perhaps by denying overflight permission or AWACS cooperation, or leaking satellite intel, or…I’m sure he could be very creative in coming up with any number of ways to put his thumb on the scale in favor of the Turks. Not only because he’s an overt islamophile, but also because he viscerally hates the Israelis.

          So the Israelis need to do whatever has to be done, and not give a fig for “world opinion,” the U.N., or the snarls of Obama or the sneers of Kerry, both of whom yearn for Israel’s destruction.

          Much better to eliminate the danger and survive, than to see an Iranian mushroom cloud over Tel Aviv or Haifa and hear Obama quip that “we’ll get to the bottom of this find out who did it, and make sure it doesn’t happen again” before he heads off to the golf course or the next fundraiser.

          • victoryman

            Right on target. The old adage proves true once again, “History repeats, only the names change.”

          • III

            Godwin is the argument of the loosers, especially as the world´s most famous painter wasn´t importing millions of middle-east, central asian and african immigrants as Putin´s regime have.

            Russian army could have smashed the ukrainian military (6000 combat-ready as of Fed 2014) in just a week or two.

            “or the snarls of Obama or the sneers of Kerry, both of whom yearn for Israel’s destruction.”


            Lying isn´t going to make your cause look better.

      • Raymond_in_DC

        Yes, Turkey has the second largest army in NATO (after the US), but it’s mostly a land army, one situated hundreds of miles from Israel. It’s ability to project force however is limited. It’s navy is larger than Israel’s, but its Air Force is no match for Israel’s.

        If it came to it, and there was the political will to do it, the IAF and Israel’s subs could easily deal with any “protection” Turkey could provide a blockade-running flotilla. And, as Egypt and Syria learned back in the October War of 1973, Israel’s missile boats can themselves be quite deadly.

    • El Cid

      This is nonsense.

      We do not want a war between Turkey and Israel. What purpose will that serve?

      The Turks and the Israelis as NOT enemies.

  • Hard Little Machine

    No no, let them in but never let them leave again. Sink the ship AFTER it docks and they get off.

    • Drakken

      Why let in your enemy when you can sink them at sea and let the sharks feed.

      • victoryman

        Sharknado rules! Feed ‘em some nice, fat anti-Semites for dinner and use the remains of the ship(s) for toothpicks. I should have said Sharknado 2 rules.

  • SoCalMike

    Sink them.


    I hope that Erdogan is on one of the flotilla ships.

    The sharks need to eat too.

  • Kruton

    Torpedo loose!

  • Paul Waliser

    Islamist Erdogan desperately trying to be relevant amid Mideast turmoil when ISIS, Hezbollah, Assad, Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood collapse etc. command all the attention in whose the most Islamic.

    Israel no longer cares about Turkey, doesn’t need Turkey.

    A Greek, Cypriot, Israeli, alliance in the Leviathan Gas Field will enrich these countries while Turkey fades away into a desolate, Muslim backwater.

    • IslamDownpressesHumanity

      That would be great. It’s too bad Lebanon can’t be considered anything but an islamic-nazi state at this point. Armenia is a possibility for such a military alliance, or even India.


        Kurdistan would be a natural member of such an alliance.

        • IslamDownpressesHumanity

          Yeah, right, of course they’ll stand w/Israel against their muslim brothers.

        • Johnnie the Jew

          I agree totally SS. They have an anti-islamic fondness for dancing and music and treating women with respect. They need their own western friendly state and a perfect buffer that would be.

    • Drakken

      Don’t forget that the Russians will lick their chops at the Turks with their hands full.

      • victoryman

        When all is said and done, the big winner in the Middle East – and elsewhere – is Putin.

        • Drakken

          Exactly! Always look at the big picture, for it is too easy to get bogged down in the semantics of it all.

          • El Cid

            Just like Mitt Romney said in the debate when the press took that as sign that he didn’t know about foreign policy.

      • Johnnie the Jew

        Spot on Drakken, as always ! Turkey will never get into the EU. Their credibility in anything remotely being in harmony with our values has plummeted under this supremo, islamist, anti-semitic, spewmeister watch. As for his “poetry”? I don’t know who is worse – Guardian dhimmi groupie par excellence , Tom “puke” Paulin or his royal turkish orrifice!

        • El Cid

          Sorry, wrong.
          Ottoman’s failed, but the Caliphate will comprise Turkey and Europe.

          • Johnnie the Jew

            Oh please. There’s as much chance of that happening as the KKK inviting a reggae band to perform at their Xmas party !

    • Ginger Li

      Without a doubt, Erdogan organized this stunt. This ‘flotilla’ is supposed to be about compassion for the war torn Palestinian population but what it is in fact is another demonstration of how ‘compassion’ is used as a weapon by these thugs.who really have no compassion – and that includes B. Hussein.

      There’s an election coming up in August and Erdogan would like nothing better than to have a confrontation with Israel to prop his image as tough guy of Islam – and guess which side the US’s Dear Leader would pick.. There’s ways to stop and make this ‘flotilla’ look foolish without blowing it out of the water. Some of them are likely being considered by Israel right now. It will never land.

      • El Cid

        What is unconscionable is that Obama does not call out Erdagan for his overt antisemitic comments. How did this become acceptable discourse?

      • III

        He is going to get ejected if he comes out as the flacid maggot he really is.

    • Johnnie the Jew

      Sooner rather than later I say. The sooner that bog brained ball bag is lost for eternity, the quicker the caliphate cloaca of islam can be jet washed, relined and rewired

  • nick

    Child murders

  • IslamDownpressesHumanity

    Thanks for the ugly information about dhimmitude and the islamic pogroms I never knew about.

  • USARetired

    This nation should also remind Turkey, as out ally, they are not allowed to interfere in this war, unless they are supporting our ally Israel, which we know they are not. That now says they are no longer a U.S. Ally, but ‘idiot’ Obozo will not say so!

  • John Torkildsen

    Hmmmm…. Surely Israel have submarines?
    With torpedoes and stuff…

  • Drakken

    Just pick up a dozen or so Russian made Sunburn anti-ship missiles, put them on a tramp steamer and accidently fire them off in close proximity of said flotilla and call it a day. If anything remains afloat, rinse and repeat.

    • IslamDownpressesHumanity

      What about an Iranian rocket propelled torpedo? I’ve always wanted to see one of those in action.

  • victoryman

    This is a made to order opportunity for Israel……… show what their Navy can do. Suggestion: Let Turkey know that the submarines that Germany supplied to Israel will be “On maneuvers” and there would be a chance that an “Errant” torpedo might hit the ship(s)…….and blow their candy asses all to Hell.

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  • William James Ward

    Deep six, that’s the fix, no time should be spent on these ships of
    fools, the worst end they could meet would be petty homicide………

  • Attila_the_hun

    There no doubt Erdogan is an Islamo Fascist thug. But he is not suicidal. He knows he can’t win a sea battle against Israel. Second The Turkish army may be half a million strong on paper but not on the battle field . If Turkish army was soo strong why wasn’t able to topple Asad ? Or why Erdogan is trying to court KRG away from Baghdad.
    What’s keeping Erdogan awake at night is not The Palestinians but the 20 million restless Turkish Kurds. One misstep by Erdogan Turkey can easily became the next Syria. I said it before I’ll say it again. I’ll not bet my house on Turkey celebrating its centennial in 2023 in one piece.
    Most of his current saber rattling is due to August presidential election. As are being predicted if he gets elected president. Turkey will have a hell of a ride.

  • SoCalMike

    Really too bad the Israelis are too kind and nice to their enemies.
    Media Benjamin and the rest of the Jew-hating foreigners should be sent to the bottom of the ocean along with the pampered freak boy who climbed along on the first trip pretending to be some kind of freedom fighter.
    Happy Swimming is what I would tell them as they were sinking into the sea.
    Enjoy. I’ll have a glass of white or red for you later.

  • IslamDownpressesHumanity

    I hope they have good sense to include Somali pirates among the crew, their experience in high seas jihad could prove invaluable.

  • dgala

    Once they reach whatever limit Israel has set in the Med, Israel should let them come just inside that “line” then stop them. At the same time Israel’s Navy Special Forces (underwater) plants several limpet mines on the hull of the vessel. A short time later said mines are set off by underwater transducer; ship sinks, all hands die, all war-materiel sinks.

    • IslamDownpressesHumanity

      And then we all have a good cry about it, or not.

      • dgala

        High Fives and champagne of course!!

  • Americans1st

    Take a page out of Oblahblah’s playbook: Sink the ship from a submarine, pretend to know nothing until you hear about it on the news, feign outrage and promise to get to the bottom of this. Initiate an investigation, can’t speak about ongoing invest… , phony scandal… Blah Blah Blah!

    • Americans1st

      Oh, appoint the head of the Navy to head up the investi blah tion.

  • IslamDownpressesHumanity

    I’d certainly cry if Turkey were to turn into another Syrian bloodbath, then again, maybe not — after all most all the najjis kaffir have been ethnically cleansed from Turkey already.

  • Johnnie the Jew

    Erdogan is a bovine buffoon who indulges in the construction of fables in order to look reality in the face.The reality is that his deluded dream of resurrecting past Ottoman “glories” is as delusional as it would be for Rome to knock on my door in the UK and announce that they’ve come back for the land they once conquered and occupied ! And this disastrous, deadhead, cretinous, camel pony is Obummas favorite philistine prime minister. He should be reminded of the only decent thing that came out of Turkey – Kemal Ataturk words : “this is Islam, an adsurd theology of an immoral bedouin, a rotting corpse that poisons our lives”.

  • mikmckn

    This article is a perfect highlight to the fact that the USA is unable to perceive the intricacies of middle eastern politics. The author’s condemnation of the president’s asking for a ceasefire as if it were bowing to Islamic terrorist demands is nothing short of laughable. As if Israel has anything to be concerned with from the Palestinians. Indeed, this article shows us that the USA should be following the advice of a former US president who said we should have commerce with all nations and alliance with none. Cut all foreign aid to Israel and the various Arab nations and worry about America. It would save us several billion dollars a year in a time where we are already in massive debt. Let Israel stand on her own without American interference in her affairs.
    Then the media can say whatever it wants. The president and the legislature can say what they want. Nobody can be accused of ignoring terrorism or ignoring a beligerent occupation. We simply won’t take part and we will worry about our own problems. With healthcare, immigration and a slow economic recovery, we have no shortage of things to do. If Israel still wants to buy American weaponry, we can sell it to them on the open market just as we do with anyone else. We can also sell it to Egypt and Syria and Jordan so they don’t have to worry about being taken over by ISIS.
    Keep our noses out of it and everyone in the USA is a winner.

    • IslamDownpressesHumanity

      Is middle eastern politics really so intricate? Because sometimes it seems like it’s nothing more than muslimes want to annihilate Israel and Israel doesn’t want to be annihilated.

      • mikmckn

        Even if you feel it to be that simple, it’s none of the USA’s business. We don’t need either group. We need to worry about our own people.

  • Rami

    It’s sad how they portray this humanitarian mission as “Hamas-affiliated” or “anti-Israel”. It has nothing to do with Hamas, it has nothing to do with Israel. It’s only mission is to deliver supplies (food, medicine, building supplies) to the besieged people of Gaza who otherwise would not be able to obtain such supplies any other way. Israel pulled out the “terrorists” card since this seems to work against anyone that shows solidarity with the people of Palestine. It’s outrageous!

    • IslamDownpressesHumanity

      Israel has already uncovered a boatload of ammunition bound for Gaza.
      And if it’s all humanitarian aid, then why not allow Israeli officials to board the boat and inspect the cargo? Or barring that, an independent third party? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?

  • NotasLazyasU

    If Turkey gets into this Israel should inform Ankara that your ships will either be sunk or confiscated

  • Golam Dawood

    This article is exaggerated rubbish from start to end. The siege on Gaza is the evil product of a fascist apartheid state. Israelis and Zionists everywhere need to grow up. The third world is officially the developing world and will no longer tolerate Imperialism and White Supremacism.