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		<title>By: windskisong</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/the-tech-industrys-immigration-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-5434901</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[windskisong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can get an H1B worker to work 80 hrs per week in a salaried position. Aging hipster has some other good ones. It doesn&#039;t make sense for one or two jobs, but when 60-80% of your low skilled workers are these folks, it is a big cut to your bottom line, and it keeps the rest of your workers under control, because they see where their job will go.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can get an H1B worker to work 80 hrs per week in a salaried position. Aging hipster has some other good ones. It doesn&#8217;t make sense for one or two jobs, but when 60-80% of your low skilled workers are these folks, it is a big cut to your bottom line, and it keeps the rest of your workers under control, because they see where their job will go.</p>
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		<title>By: windskisong</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/the-tech-industrys-immigration-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-5434897</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[windskisong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow. That&#039;s good to know that some people think this way...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. That&#8217;s good to know that some people think this way&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Nastrom</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/the-tech-industrys-immigration-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-5421059</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Nastrom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2014 23:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point.</p>
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		<title>By: NAHALKIDES</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/the-tech-industrys-immigration-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-5420638</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NAHALKIDES]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2014 12:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could be, but I expect the Democrats to try to destroy the country; I don&#039;t expect the GOP to follow suit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could be, but I expect the Democrats to try to destroy the country; I don&#8217;t expect the GOP to follow suit.</p>
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		<title>By: John Nastrom</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/the-tech-industrys-immigration-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-5420359</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Nastrom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2014 04:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This is the issue that might finally sunder the GOP coalition&quot;
Hate  to break the news  to you, but Democrats are more in favor of expanding H1Bs than are republicans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is the issue that might finally sunder the GOP coalition&#8221;<br />
Hate  to break the news  to you, but Democrats are more in favor of expanding H1Bs than are republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/the-tech-industrys-immigration-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-5418499</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vince Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 23:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[no one is looking for your ignorant advice]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no one is looking for your ignorant advice</p>
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		<title>By: Chi_n_me</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/the-tech-industrys-immigration-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-5406555</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chi_n_me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 14:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an employee of Tata Consultancy services, I was bought to US for a job I wasn&#039;t completely qualified for. And I have a 10,000 USD bond in India, so I ain&#039;t gonna switch companies either. It is against their policy to file green card. So I will work here for 5 years and then go back with some savings to India. I get a pretty good deal, for a person from India. SO I don&#039;t exactly have any hatred towards the company. I just thought you guys would like to know this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an employee of Tata Consultancy services, I was bought to US for a job I wasn&#8217;t completely qualified for. And I have a 10,000 USD bond in India, so I ain&#8217;t gonna switch companies either. It is against their policy to file green card. So I will work here for 5 years and then go back with some savings to India. I get a pretty good deal, for a person from India. SO I don&#8217;t exactly have any hatred towards the company. I just thought you guys would like to know this.</p>
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		<title>By: rickArg</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/the-tech-industrys-immigration-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-5398661</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rickArg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2014 04:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Realistically, you can stop spending. That&#039;s the only way for those who are employed to protest and protect themselves.


 American IT workers and Indian H1B&#039;s, both are suffering. Top mgmt in America and Indian consuluting companies are the real winners.


H1B&#039;s are paid almost same as american IT workers. But H1B&#039;s are expected to go home and take vonage phone and have 2-3 hrs call with offshore.
Asked to be on call 24/7 with out any extra pay.


IT QA has a different problem. H4 (spouse of H1b employee) normally take a course and fake resume, with connections get in to the job.Once in a job, with little common sense, you can keep low paying IT QA job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Realistically, you can stop spending. That&#8217;s the only way for those who are employed to protest and protect themselves.</p>
<p> American IT workers and Indian H1B&#8217;s, both are suffering. Top mgmt in America and Indian consuluting companies are the real winners.</p>
<p>H1B&#8217;s are paid almost same as american IT workers. But H1B&#8217;s are expected to go home and take vonage phone and have 2-3 hrs call with offshore.<br />
Asked to be on call 24/7 with out any extra pay.</p>
<p>IT QA has a different problem. H4 (spouse of H1b employee) normally take a course and fake resume, with connections get in to the job.Once in a job, with little common sense, you can keep low paying IT QA job.</p>
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		<title>By: R Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/the-tech-industrys-immigration-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-5396959</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2014 08:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent article. It covers all of the areas that I&#039;ve seen discussed elsewhere and brought up some new ones. Those include the following:

1) The &quot;skills gap&quot; is a myth as described in the articles listed at http://econdataus.com/skillsgap.html .

2) Real wages are growing much more slowly and unemployment is much higher than one would expect if there was a shortage of workers.

3) Two-thirds of new college-educated Information Technology (IT) job-holders under the age of 30 are guest workers. This is in line with numbers at http://econdataus.com/svworkers.html which shows about 37% of Software Developers in California are citizens by birth, about 26% are naturalized citizens, and about 38% are non-citizens.  The numbers in Silicon Valley are about 25%, 26%, and 49%.

4) Besides lower wages, another aim seem to be to replace older workers (see http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117088/silicons-valleys-brutal-ageism ).

5) Most of the H-1B visas are going to offshore outsourcing firms.

6) It appears that Congress is being influenced by big money contributions. It reminds me of Upton Sinclair&#039;s famous quote: &quot;It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!&quot;. The only hope is that these facts can be made so clear as to force are Congress to &quot;understand it&quot;.  This article is a good start.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article. It covers all of the areas that I&#8217;ve seen discussed elsewhere and brought up some new ones. Those include the following:</p>
<p>1) The &#8220;skills gap&#8221; is a myth as described in the articles listed at <a href="http://econdataus.com/skillsgap.html" rel="nofollow">http://econdataus.com/skillsgap.html</a> .</p>
<p>2) Real wages are growing much more slowly and unemployment is much higher than one would expect if there was a shortage of workers.</p>
<p>3) Two-thirds of new college-educated Information Technology (IT) job-holders under the age of 30 are guest workers. This is in line with numbers at <a href="http://econdataus.com/svworkers.html" rel="nofollow">http://econdataus.com/svworkers.html</a> which shows about 37% of Software Developers in California are citizens by birth, about 26% are naturalized citizens, and about 38% are non-citizens.  The numbers in Silicon Valley are about 25%, 26%, and 49%.</p>
<p>4) Besides lower wages, another aim seem to be to replace older workers (see <a href="http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117088/silicons-valleys-brutal-ageism" rel="nofollow">http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117088/silicons-valleys-brutal-ageism</a> ).</p>
<p>5) Most of the H-1B visas are going to offshore outsourcing firms.</p>
<p>6) It appears that Congress is being influenced by big money contributions. It reminds me of Upton Sinclair&#8217;s famous quote: &#8220;It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!&#8221;. The only hope is that these facts can be made so clear as to force are Congress to &#8220;understand it&#8221;.  This article is a good start.</p>
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		<title>By: dave harris</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/the-tech-industrys-immigration-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-5396893</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dave harris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2014 02:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I took a quick look at your other posts. H1B bad, Indians bad, H1B bad, Indians bad........ You are maybe right on both counts but I didn&#039;t see any reasoning for your claims. My suspicion is that you are an out of work engineer. Hate to tell you, but I don&#039;t think that that has anything to do with the H1B program.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took a quick look at your other posts. H1B bad, Indians bad, H1B bad, Indians bad&#8230;&#8230;.. You are maybe right on both counts but I didn&#8217;t see any reasoning for your claims. My suspicion is that you are an out of work engineer. Hate to tell you, but I don&#8217;t think that that has anything to do with the H1B program.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim_Rothchilds</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/the-tech-industrys-immigration-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-5396601</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim_Rothchilds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it just seemed like such sage wisdom, I had no choice but to agree with your brilliance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it just seemed like such sage wisdom, I had no choice but to agree with your brilliance.</p>
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		<title>By: dave harris</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/the-tech-industrys-immigration-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-5396522</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dave harris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting that they can transfer the employees. On its face the program protects American workers. I was certainly intended to. You are right about audits, but most of the visas are taken up by the big players- mirosoft and the like. Its hard to see them committing fraud to save a few bucks. They have too much to lose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that they can transfer the employees. On its face the program protects American workers. I was certainly intended to. You are right about audits, but most of the visas are taken up by the big players- mirosoft and the like. Its hard to see them committing fraud to save a few bucks. They have too much to lose.</p>
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		<title>By: dave harris</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/the-tech-industrys-immigration-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-5396521</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dave harris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know how you agreed with my post. It wasn&#039;t a statement. It was a question. But you can always count on some ignorant fool out here to make a stupid comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how you agreed with my post. It wasn&#8217;t a statement. It was a question. But you can always count on some ignorant fool out here to make a stupid comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Aging Hipster</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/the-tech-industrys-immigration-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-5396454</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aging Hipster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because there are a thousand ways to pay them less without getting caught. Such as underclassifying the job title, or filing for them from a low-pay area then moving them to work in a high pay area. The state of Maine saw a lot of this a few years back. Audits are actually few and far between (and there are ways to game them too).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because there are a thousand ways to pay them less without getting caught. Such as underclassifying the job title, or filing for them from a low-pay area then moving them to work in a high pay area. The state of Maine saw a lot of this a few years back. Audits are actually few and far between (and there are ways to game them too).</p>
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		<title>By: Glob Design</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/the-tech-industrys-immigration-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-5396400</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glob Design]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 04:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not leaders. Jealous globalists who thought they ran us. Rockefellers, Soros, Rothschids. East coasters, Wall St, and DC thought they ran the country - until the internet came along. Also high-paying tech salaries means you can get out of debt doesn&#039;t it? You don&#039;t need a car LOAN if you&#039;re making $150K a year now do you?


Tech and prosperity are threats to the bankers, Wall St, and those seeking control. That&#039;s why they hate the American middle class and want to destroy USA.


American tech workers overturned the slave plantation disguised as &quot;The American Dream&quot; - get in debt, pay your mortgage, pay your car loans, and gas, and insurance, and everything else - to the Korporate masters. And if you get a little too prosperous and pay everything off, well then they will wreck you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not leaders. Jealous globalists who thought they ran us. Rockefellers, Soros, Rothschids. East coasters, Wall St, and DC thought they ran the country &#8211; until the internet came along. Also high-paying tech salaries means you can get out of debt doesn&#8217;t it? You don&#8217;t need a car LOAN if you&#8217;re making $150K a year now do you?</p>
<p>Tech and prosperity are threats to the bankers, Wall St, and those seeking control. That&#8217;s why they hate the American middle class and want to destroy USA.</p>
<p>American tech workers overturned the slave plantation disguised as &#8220;The American Dream&#8221; &#8211; get in debt, pay your mortgage, pay your car loans, and gas, and insurance, and everything else &#8211; to the Korporate masters. And if you get a little too prosperous and pay everything off, well then they will wreck you.</p>
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		<title>By: Glob Design</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glob Design]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 04:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too much prosperity threatens bankers. You don&#039;t need LOANS if you have a high tech salary now do you?


DO YOU?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too much prosperity threatens bankers. You don&#8217;t need LOANS if you have a high tech salary now do you?</p>
<p>DO YOU?</p>
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		<title>By: Glob Design</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glob Design]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 04:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Start suing the companies themselves under Federal law. Title 8, Section 1182 INADMISSIBLE ALIENS.


Surprise! ALL foreign workers are ILLEGAL as long as US citizens are unemployed!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Start suing the companies themselves under Federal law. Title 8, Section 1182 INADMISSIBLE ALIENS.</p>
<p>Surprise! ALL foreign workers are ILLEGAL as long as US citizens are unemployed!</p>
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		<title>By: Glob Design</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glob Design]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From: Rajesh Kumar Ramachandran (Collabera)
Subject: Listen to me A******!!
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:49:20 -0700 (PDT)

&quot;Now listen carefully to me a******.. dont just bark around in the corner like a rabies stricken stray dog about your pathetic views about politics and jobs. If your insecure about your skills and abilities thats your f****** problem not Indians or any other politicians.. Well you want me to provoke you well then hear this, we are gonna take all your jobs away.. we gonna make sure that you dont even have money to buy s*** and eat, we gonna take evrything thatwas yours. we gonna drape the Statue of Liberty with a saree (you dont know wahta saree iis, well its a dress which Indian women wear).. now get your f****** stinking face out of here A******!!!!!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From: Rajesh Kumar Ramachandran (Collabera)<br />
Subject: Listen to me A******!!<br />
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:49:20 -0700 (PDT)</p>
<p>&#8220;Now listen carefully to me a******.. dont just bark around in the corner like a rabies stricken stray dog about your pathetic views about politics and jobs. If your insecure about your skills and abilities thats your f****** problem not Indians or any other politicians.. Well you want me to provoke you well then hear this, we are gonna take all your jobs away.. we gonna make sure that you dont even have money to buy s*** and eat, we gonna take evrything thatwas yours. we gonna drape the Statue of Liberty with a saree (you dont know wahta saree iis, well its a dress which Indian women wear).. now get your f****** stinking face out of here A******!!!!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim_Rothchilds</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim_Rothchilds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 03:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[H1B is economic terrorism on our country and society. What started out some 20 years ago as a progressive vehicle to bring in truly talented individuals with skills that lacked at home, has been bastardized into a monster to replace American workers, ship away jobs, and lower wages. All of this is H1B, and it&#039;s actually weakened us considerably, by rotting us from the inside out. H1B needs to end right now]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H1B is economic terrorism on our country and society. What started out some 20 years ago as a progressive vehicle to bring in truly talented individuals with skills that lacked at home, has been bastardized into a monster to replace American workers, ship away jobs, and lower wages. All of this is H1B, and it&#8217;s actually weakened us considerably, by rotting us from the inside out. H1B needs to end right now</p>
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		<title>By: Tim_Rothchilds</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim_Rothchilds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 03:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[right, I agree. Companies would never make up lies in order to get cheap indentured labor, perish the thought...nothing unethical I&#039;m sure]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>right, I agree. Companies would never make up lies in order to get cheap indentured labor, perish the thought&#8230;nothing unethical I&#8217;m sure</p>
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