Islamizing Britain’s Schools

Panorama - British Schools, Islamic Rules.WnA.avi_000083800“Give me the child until he is seven, and I will show you the man.“ 

– Jesuit aphorism

Real Muslims understand the critical importance of teaching the young. The critical importance, that is, of teaching them the “right” things and not teaching them the “wrong” things. The most important single element of stealth Islamization is the effort to convert Western schools from centers of secular education into hubs of Islamic indoctrination. Fortunately, there are plenty of dhimmi teachers and school administrators eager to help out, convinced that they’re serving the interests of multicultural peace and harmony. These days, for some reason, this form of dhimmitude seems to be most prevalent – and to take its acutest form – in England.  

Take, for example, Lynn Small, headmistress of a state elementary school in Huntington, England, who last November wrote a letter to parents of fourth- and sixth-grade students warning that if they didn’t let their children attend an “Explore Islam” workshop at Staffordshire University, a “Racial Discrimination” note would be placed in the kids’ permanent records. Fortunately, parents kicked up a fuss, and the media took notice, and Small backtracked – kind of – while still insisting that since some of the school’s “pupils and teachers…belong to the Islam faith,” it was only “right for the children to understand and appreciate their faith as well as their own.”

Obviously, Small realized she’d miscalculated. Slightly. Apparently there were no repercussions for her. She still has her job, and there’s no indication that school authorities even put a note in her permanent record chiding her for making Stalinist-type threats against parents. No, her heart was plainly in the right place, as far as the British educational establishment is concerned – she just went about things the wrong way, confronting parents directly instead of taking a more crafty approach.

In any event, Small, it turns out, is decidedly small-time. In the last couple of weeks, investigations by the Telegraph and Daily Mail have uncovered something far more serious than Small’s little workshop: namely, a long-term, broad-based conspiracy to Islamize schools in the city of Birmingham. The conspiracy is so widespread, and involves so many high-level people in the school system and the Muslim community, that – well, put it this way: if you were to suggest to a typical European multiculturalist that any such plot were brewing anywhere in the Western world, you’d be mocked and reviled, accused of racism, paranoia, and sheer unadulterated foolishness.

Yet the facts are there. As revealed in a series of articles, there’s “an organised group of Muslim teachers, education consultants, school governors and activists” who are involved in what they themselves call a “Trojan Horse” campaign to further an “Islamising agenda” by “remov[ing] secular head teachers and install[ing] Islamic practices in Birmingham state schools.” The participants’ ongoing discussions of this campaign have taken place on a private online message board, whose contents have been seen by the Telegraph. Among the conspirators’ short-term objectives is to install Muslim worship in the schools; their explicit long-term goal, as they have made clear in postings on the message board, is the total Islamization of Britain.

The key figure in this scheme is Razwan Faraz, a deputy head teacher at a Birmingham school who, in the days before the Telegraph exposé, had made something of a name for himself by vociferously denying that any such effort was underway. Faraz has another claim to fame, as it happens: his brother, Ahmed Faraz, was the owner of a shop in Birmingham, since closed by police, that “distributed extremist literature to many involved in terror plots, including one of the 7/7 bombers.” Ahmed was himself jailed in 2011 “for multiple terror-related offences.” Razwan assailed his brother’s incarceration as “an attack on free speech.”

Among Faraz’s collaborators are a number of Muslims in positions of local power. Many belong to the Muslim Parents Association and/or the al-Hijrah Trust, groups that work actively, and openly, to increase the Islamic influence in British schools. A leading member of the conspiracy, Tahir Alam, is a senior figure at the Muslim Council of Britain and is vice-chair of the Association of Muslim Schools – and that’s not all. If parents’ complaints about the efforts to Islamize their kids’ schools have been ignored repeatedly, it may be at least in part because Alam is also an official school inspector for Ofsted (the government agency responsible for such matters) as well as a “specialist in school governance” for the Birmingham city council (whose leader, a fellow named Sir Albert Bore, has rejected the “Trojan Horse” charges as “defamatory” and insists that Birmingham schools are doing just fine).

The conspirators appear to be a patient lot. About a newly appointed Muslim school head, one participant in the message board wrote: “Please don’t pressurise her to start the Islamising agenda first. That will be a lot easier when she is respected as leader. She has to establish herself with minimum controversy for the first six months, and lead the people to believe in her before they believe in her policies.”

The results of these people’s efforts speak for themselves. At one school, Park View, which has been praised by Prime Minister David Cameron for its purported “educational excellence, a senior teacher who publicly eulogized terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki is now in the running to become head teacher. “Extremist preachers” have addressed school assemblies; girls have been pressured to cover their hair; £70,000 was spent on loudspeakers to summon students to Friday prayer. “It felt like a faith school. Islam permeated everything,” one source “close to the investigation” told the Telegraph. “All the citizenship teaching was about being a good Muslim.” All this, mind you, at a nominally secular state school.

Then there’s Oldknow, a primary school where an excellent, non-Muslim head teacher was driven out “by a concerted campaign to remove her and Islamise her school.” Oldknow now has Muslim prayers every Friday and has organized at least three taxpayer-funded school trips to Mecca. Arabic classes are compulsory for all pupils. The school even has its own madrassah. Teachers engage in “blatant belittling of Christianity.” Sources spoke about teachers who introduce religion into “every lesson” and whose insistence that music is sinful has led some children to refuse to take music classes. Last December, the school’s traditional Christmas tree and pantomime were cancelled because they were adjudged “un-Islamic,” and a teacher gave a talk at which he led students in a chant: “Do we believe in Christmas? No! Do we give out Christmas cards? No! The seven days of Christmas, they [Christians] can’t even count!”

Things aren’t as far along yet at another school, Springfield, where the non-Muslim head teacher, according to his colleagues, is “under ‘non-stop attack’ by radical members of the governing body” and has received anonymous death threats and had his tires slashed. Meanwhile, at a fourth school, Anderton Park, where the governing body recently voted to “Islamize” collective worship, “the lives of successive non-Muslim head teachers have been made a ‘misery’ by radical religious governors and parents determined to stop the teaching of PE and music, regarded as sinful by hardline Muslims.” At Anderdon Park, there were also several “assaults on staff” (no details provided).

In response to the accounts of the “Trojan Horse” conspiracy laid out in the Telegraph and Daily Mail, Alam complained that he was – what else? – the target of an Islamophobic witch hunt. For his part, Michael White, a former teacher at Park View, had blistering words for the British government and for the Birmingham city council, saying that both were so “afraid to upset communities” that they chose “to sweep things under the carpet.” (Note that even White felt a need to avoid spelling out which “communities” the authorities were loath to offend.)

Birmingham, of course, isn’t the only locality in Britain where children are being subjected to Islamic indoctrination in the guise of education. The other day the Daily Mail reported that one Sajeel Shahid, who has trained terrorists – including “the ringleader of the 7/7 terrorist bombings” and four persons who tried to blow up a Kent shopping center and a London nightclub – has for several years been running the Ad-Deen Primary School, a Muslim institution in Essex, whose pupils are between three and eleven years old. Because he ran the school under a pseudonym, inspectors didn’t see anything fishy about the version of Islam being taught to his charges, and accordingly gave the school passing grades. Of course they did: the only difference between the version of Islam taught at approved Islamic schools and the version preached by Islamic terrorists is the terrorism itself.

British parents owe a debt of gratitude to the Telegraph and Daily Mail for uncovering these repulsive stories – and owe no debt at all to their spineless elected officials, both national and local, or to school authorities, who, if it were up to them, would presumably have been content to see Islam overrun the country’s classrooms, all the while ridiculing the very concept of stealth Islamization as hysterical bigotry.

Then there’s the Guardian, the proud flagship of the British left. On March 7, over a week before the Telegraph began to report the results of its investigation, the Guardian, which had come into possession of a letter outlining the Trojan Horse conspirators’ activities, summed up the whole business in an article whose headline led with the word “alleged,” whose subhead focused on Alam’s characterization of the charges as “a malicious fabrication and completely untrue,” and whose final sentences were devoted to a condemnation of the “alleged plot” by longtime Islamic activist Inayat Bunglawala, whom the Guardian carefully identified as “chair of Muslims4UK, a group which aims to promote active Muslim engagement in British society.”

Unlike the Telegraph, however, the Guardian apparently didn’t proceed to investigate the charges. Instead, it dutifully noted that the police and school officials were looking into them. And that was that. Perusing the Guardian‘s coverage, one cannot avoid the conclusion that its chief concern was to cast doubt on the allegations and to underscore that, whether they were true or not, mainstream Muslim leaders like Bunglawala are, of course, utterly opposed to such shady subterfuges. There was no mention that Bunglawala, this supposed stalwart of “Muslim engagement in British society,” had in fact called Osama bin Laden a “freedom fighter” and Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman “courageous”; no mention that he’d passionately campaigned to get Yusuf al-Qaradawi a British visa; no mention that, in addition to being head of Muslims4UK, he’s the longtime media secretary of the Muslim Council of Britain, the same group of which Alam is a leading member. In short, Bungalawala’s brand of “engagement in British society” is not really significantly different from that of the Birmingham conspirators. By pretending that there exists appreciable ideological distance between the likes of Bunglawala and Birmingham’s Trojan Horses, the Guardian isn’t just misleading its readers – it’s participating itself in the whole nefarious ruse to which these creeps are committed. But what else is new?

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  • Bamaguje

    This is the same Britanistan that barred anti-Jihadists Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller from entering the country, while steath Jihadists run amok with their creeping Sharia agenda.

    • Larry Larkin

      In Britain the jihadis no longer have to be stealthy. It’s a step further down the road than the obamessiah’s Administration, because it’s jihadis are out and proud.

      • kikorikid

        Many in the U.S. are waiting until the
        Jihadist are “out and Proud”. IED’s and stealth
        are their mode but when they are willing to show
        their faces there are even more willing to rearrange
        them.

    • BagLady

      EVERYONE should ban Pamela Geller. She’s a racist stirrer.

      • BS77

        You are a bag lady. Pamela Geller makes more sense than you.
        England is toast. Mass third world immigration is going to destroy England…….may already have.

      • 11johnmac66

        Pamela Geller is not a racist…you don’t seem to grasp the fact that Islam is not a race Its a politico/religio totalitarian ideology…after all that is what Pamela Geller – with her great courage – stands against. You should be aware that Islam does no permit freedom of conscience…that is why they punish apostates – a capital offence.
        Although I suspect your real grievance with Pamela Geller is her adherence to free market economics and society…an affront to your delusional socialist ideals.

      • Drakken

        Coming from a goddamn communist like you, that’s funny!

      • johnnie the jew

        No everybody should ban Islam unless of course you’re collecting splinters in your PC equality driven desire for us to all be happy being equal to a bunch of retarded, uneducated, death mongerers, of course. Please get off the fence. And by the way what do you exactly mean by a racist ?

  • Tabitha

    Mona Eltahawy-dirty kikes

  • JVictor

    What a brilliant and diabolical strategy by those who are working diligently for the establishment of a global Islamic Caliphate. First, trot out the so-called “extremist” jihadists who blow themselves and others to smithereens. Then, send in the so-called “moderate” Islamicists who begin to educate young, impressionable minds under the guise multiculturalism. Finally, have so-called secular third-parties ensconce and codify the new education as superior while demeaning and dismantling that which is other.

    I heard a very wise man once say, “The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.” Dr. James Dobson has also indicated that the time a person is statistically most likely to become a Christian is by the age of 8. Since that is the case, the blank faith slate of a child is critical for every other religious decision up to that age as well. Is it any wonder that “educators,” both secular and religious, are pushing for the normalization and acceptance of Islam in elementary schools? Hopefully, it’s not too late for our children and grandchildren. Jews and Christians alike need to wake up. If we sleep through this, we are the ones who will be held accountable for losing the next generation.

    • Johnnnyboy

      Well actually it is the hand that rocks the cradle rules the future.

      I am reminded of how European culture took over various native populations. Paraphrasing some comments from the movie, The Outlaw Josie Wales, the Indian said, “First they sent in the troops and beat us. And then it got really bad. They sent in the priests.”

      • Tanks-a-lot

        what a wonderful world the “Asian land bridge migrants” produced. Constant tribal warfare and slavery.

    • haveittodayray

      I am not asleep like your comments. Islam and Sharia law
      will come to America in one generation by the stealth invasion equivalent to a
      modern version of the “Trojan Horse”, by Muslim immigration. Unless good men
      and woman speak up now.

      Abraham Lincoln said, “To sin by silence when they should
      protest makes cowards of men”. When our
      mainstream news will not inform you of one of the main issues of the 21st
      Century, due to political correctness,
      then it’s time not to be silent anymore.

      Muslim refugees from Somalia and other “warzones” to the
      tune of 500,000 being relocated to America is the issue. Forget about being labeled a racist, bigot or
      being politically correct, silence won’t turn back the tide. This immigration
      is a real and growing and is a threatening danger to America. Just look at
      Europe today folks. 60 million Muslims immigrated to Europe and 80% are on some
      sort of public assistance, bankrupting the towns, cities and countries. Due to
      Muslim immigration France is now bankrupt and a welfare State. Is America next?

      The time has come to speak up and take a stand folk, for
      America. Awareness is the issue as most
      families are simply far too busy, working two jobs, raising their children and
      do not have a clue or the time to research the issue. Islamic forces are destroying
      Europe; they’re in a fight for survival. The root cause is the inevitable
      consequences of multiculturalism and immigration plus the alarming birthrate of
      Muslims now an average of 8.1 children in each Muslim family. Europe has
      literally been invaded. Europe will become an Islamic state due to the
      immigration and sheer birthrate of Muslims.

      I have done that for you, if you Google
      “TheProjectMuslimBrotherhood” you will find that this is their doctrine to destroy America and West from within by
      stealth jihad, and lies. Guess what,
      the doctrine is over 20 years old, and they are making substantial
      progress. We are now approaching 2400
      Mosques along with approximately 2.7 million Muslims here in America.

      “We will conquer Europe! (They are almost there) We will
      conquer America! Not through the sword but through Dawa (proselytizing)
      Yosuf-alQarawi, Muslim Brotherhood.”

      “We love death more than you love life.” Quoted from the
      Fort Hood massacre killer. Islamists
      seek civilization Jihad and will stop as they literally follow the Quran.
      Although you can find peaceful passages, the Quran speaks violence throughout
      it. It is no Bible.

      Massive immigration and multiculturalism is literally
      destroying most of Europe today. There
      are over 700 “Islamic No Go Zones”, within France, England and Germany, where
      police cannot enter. Take a look around
      you Dearborn, Michigan, Maine, Tennessee, Minnesota, (has the majority of
      Somalia refugees and a Senator who took his oath and placed his hand on the
      Quran refused the Bible.) New York, California, Colorado for examples of the
      immigration resettlement program, and very soon coming to your State. Over 90% of them are illiterate and in need
      of public assistance. Have you been to Paris or Sweden recently? Immigration is
      bankrupting much of Europe.

      I have no problem with the “peaceful Muslims” that wants to
      integrate into our culture and follow our laws.
      The problem lies in that the
      militant Muslims dominate the peaceful ones and eventually wants to force Islam
      and Sharia law upon us all. They agitate and campaign to dominate the
      rest. Why should America be forced into adapting to their culture? They
      must adapt to our culture. The Boston bombers were motivated by extreme
      militant Islamic beliefs. Our mainstream news is in denial of the danger of
      understating the issue of the Muslim/Islam problem in America today. Many of the Mosques are breeding grounds for
      home grown terrorists. Today in our
      prisons over 18% of the prison population are being converted to Islam by
      recruitment by extremists. Islam berg,
      in New York is a breeding ground for over 30 militant training compounds in
      America today.

      The media has yet to uncover the truth. For the truth is
      that there are no so called “moderate” Muslims. “Islam is one religion
      following Koran and Sunna” I have also read the Koran cover to cover. It is not
      a peaceful religion as they would have you believe.

      Sad to say, they are making inroads into every facet of our
      lives and trying to change our culture, under the guise of the first
      amendment. Already, they are changing
      our schools, universities, cities, towns and even our own government has been
      infiltrated. They want Sharia law and
      will stop at nothing to see that it happens. School textbooks are being changed
      to put Islam in a more favorable light.
      Have you been to a school board meeting recently? Food menus are being
      changed to accommodate all of them.

      The Saudis “oil money” contributes to schools, universities
      and politicians so they can put Islam in a more favorable light in America. Their intent is to destroy us from within,
      not by “war” but rather by stealth jihad and intentional deception and front
      organizations like “CAIR” who support Hamas. They are gradually succeeding
      folks. There are now over 50 Islamic organizations within our own borders.
      Concessions made to Muslims are growing everyday in America. You are just not
      aware or do not care. Recently, in a Catholic University, a group of Muslims is
      suing for discriminating against them
      for not allowing them to “pray” in a room without a crucifixion, how absurd,
      let them go elsewhere.

      When Jews, Christians, Priests, Infidels are being
      slaughtered and murdered, and churches are being burned down did you ever
      wonder why the so called peaceful moderate Muslims, never speak out against
      these atrocities? Europe is losing the battle and America in less than a
      generation will be next. Where is the
      condemnation from the nearly 3 Million Muslims that are here, have you heard a
      word from them? Their silence speaks volumes on their real intent to destroy us
      from within and have no intention of ever living within our culture. They want Sharia law in America today
      folks, and they will not rest until they achieve that goal.. They want to wage
      war against freedom and democracy and have America continue to make concessions
      for them. You give them “one inch” and
      they will take a mile in support of their goals to establish Islam as the
      dominate religion in America and for the eventual mandate for Sharia law to
      take over our court system.

      Sharia law is a real threat to America’s freedom folks. They
      just accomplished that fact, in England this week. We can learn a lot from just
      watching what is taking place in London.

      Islam is a political
      ideology; it is the antithesis of a free society. One generation of silence on the issue due to
      political correctness is all it takes.
      What you do today and tomorrow will affect your children and
      grandchildren and future generations of
      America, yet unborn, you have a
      responsibility toward them.. Stand
      up and be counted to defeat this real threat from within. Voice your opinion, let your congressmen,
      senators and school boards know how you feel on the issue. Our freedom and
      liberty is at stake, be part of the solution folks.

      Forget about being
      labeled and simply do what is right for America. We need a permanent solution, time is running
      out. Let us not become the next Europe. As for me I refuse to be silent on the
      issue. One person can make a difference,
      but think if were united, what a difference we can make to turn back the tide
      and doctrine of the Muslim Brotherhood.
      Enough is enough folks, if you do just one thing today, Google
      “TheProjectMuslimBrotherhood” and see for yourself their intent to destroy
      America from within. Thank you, and
      please forward this to millions. Let me know your opinions.

    • BagLady

      Interesting. I believe that it’s mostly Islam and Judaism that are taught religiously at home. The Christian religion is suffering very badly from lack of followers. Westerners may tick the box “Christian” when asked for ‘religion’, although “None” would be far nearer the mark. The majority of westerners never see the inside of a church and have never read the Bible and certainly don’t have parents/teachers’ beliefs drummed into them.

      I don’t believe there should be any teaching of religion or politics in schools until university age and then only as a comparative study.

      • Wolfthatknowsall

        Is this a “follow-up” on the study, some years back, that purported the slow death of Christianity? That particular study only targeted mainstream denominations. They didn’t look at non-denominational community churches.

        Christianity isn’t dying. It’s merely moving, and becoming incredibly powerful, in the process. And it’s growing. My own church has Catholics, Methodists, Presbyterians, Lutherans, Nazarenes, and a dozen other backgrounds among it. These people didn’t abandon Christ. They moved to a Christian Church were … as it says in our church’s founding documents … “you belong, before you believe.”

        The studies don’t count the independent churches.

        I agree with your second paragraph, unless the school is parochial.

        • Ben

          Do you ever read the God breathed Scriptures, or have you possibly ever read the eternal incorruptible Holy Words of God?

          Tell me oh wise sage and prophet; what do the words of 1 Thessalonians 5:3 and Revelation 13:7 mean?

          Here is some advise for you and it’s freely given. If you what to know what is going on, go find the answer in the inerrant Scriptures and not in the studies of weak fallible men. Find out what God has to say and place your faith and trust in those Words!

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            Ben, I don’t agree with the study that I mentioned. Far from it. I believe that Christianity is a growing religion, and faulted the study for not counting certain groups with the faith.

            I, indeed, have read the Bible, and several times over. Indeed, as an undergraduate student, I was required to memorize and recite one of the Gospels, in Koine Greek. Do YOU know which one the follwing comes from?

            “En arche en hoh Logos, kai hoh Logos en ton pros hoh Theos, kai hoh Theos en ton pros hoh Logos …”

            One doesn’t know the Holy Scriptures unless one understands the original languages in which it was written.

  • Paul Austin Murphy

    Not only is the Guardian’s Inayat Buglawala not a moderate – he battles against Muslim moderates and has done systematically over the last 15 years or so:

    http://paulaustinmurphyonislam.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/inayat-bunglawalah-against-ed-husain.html

    As for the Guardian: the enemies of capitalist democracy have always been the friends of the Guardian – no matter who or what they are (from Stalin to Islamic terrorists and Islamists):

    http://paulaustinmurphy2000.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/seumas-milne-yes-criticism-of-muslims.html

    • BagLady

      You are right. The Guardian has always been a ‘left wing’ paper. However, it has always boasted excellent writers and is well worth reading to balance ‘right wing’ opinion.

      • Paul Austin Murphy

        I’m not sure who these excellent Guardian writers are. In any case, a distinction has always to be made between the general editorial/political line of a newspaper and its individual writers or journalists.

        I suppose that once or twice a year the Guardian will allow a right-wing writer to have his say – but even that will be set within very strict parameters. Put it this way: the Telegraph publishes far more Leftist or Left-Liberal pieces than the Guardian publishes right-wing ones. In fact many Telegraph writers have been described as “cultural Marxists” alongside being “economic right-wingers”. In addition, the Guardian is notorious for censoring its comments sections; whereas the Telegraph, which uses Disqus, doesn’t seem to censor at all.

        As for your link: typical Guardian. I simply don’t believe there is such a “common thread” running through all religions. And certainly not between Islam and other religions.

        The Interfaith movement should spend a little more time focussing on how fantastically different Islam is to Christianity; rather than obsessing about their often trivial and irrelevant similarities. Perhaps if Interfaith Christians did that more often, they’d help out their persecuted brothers in the Muslim world.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Der Guardian is a FASCIST Socialist newspaper.

        A friend of every islamofascist and terrorist.

        • Drakken

          I really wish you would get the bloody labels correct, they are bloody communist. You cannot fight what you don’t name right.

          • Gee

            Both Communism and Fascism are so extreme that eventually they move to the left to the point that they merge to be one and the same.

          • Drakken

            True to a point, but I like calling things for what they are and what ideologies they follow.

          • BagLady

            No you don’t. You make a decision about total strangers and are unmovable from that position in perpetuity regardless their arguments.

            I see from you ‘grey head’ that you are totally one dimensional and this will account for your lack of mental gymnastic ability. I shall imagine your avatar. Shall I find one for you? It might be interesting to see how close I get to the REAL you.

          • Drakken

            I not only paint the opposition with a broad brush, I dump the entire bucket of paint upon them and their sympathizers. As for me being a gray hair? Not bloody hardly. I work in these god forsaken sh*tholes and call them as I see them period, and if you don’t like it and it hurts your feelings, tough sh*t! Let me guess, your the fat girl everyone picked on aren’t you?

          • BagLady

            Logical philosophy makes this a truth. However, I do see a tendency on this site to label all and sundry as extremist one way or the other (usually Commie – just like the old days). This is not logical and is not the truth. Logic demands that most people be moderate in all they believe and do. Taking a wide brush to paint an whole huge percentage of the population with tar is nonsense. Extremists of any ‘religion’ are not following their the Book they’re twisting the truth to suit their political agenda.

            I don’t care which ‘side’ I read, so long as the writers are good and interesting. I am not about to become indoctrinated by the media.

  • Davros11

    Good for them, I can’t wait until the soon to be queen has to wear a burkha. and the king say’s “Allah save him”

    • kikorikid

      You are part of the problem.

  • Matthew

    What a scheme! You know based on my limited understanding and education, one can almost draw a correlation between the various jihadists portrayed in this article and the communists. Those who carry out the physical acts of terror are similar to the violent revolutionaries, while the various men and women named in this article are of the same ilk as gramsci and those of the Frankfurt school.

    • kikorikid

      Ahhh, the Red-Green coalition.
      Scheme indeed!
      Both see themselves as “True Believers”.
      Both see themselves as “Vanguards” of their
      respective cause.
      One wants Paradise.
      One wants Utopia.
      Both bring Death to non-believers.

      • BagLady

        One wants Paradise.
        One wants Utopia.

        We are supposed to strive to reach this state. It is our conception of what it is that keeps us arguing.

        I must say I have difficulty believing in a benevolent god who loves his children equally and with dog-like devotion, so much so that he forgives them their sins instantly …. so long as they confess. If they don’t accept Him as dad in their final hour, he will cast them into a fiery furnace for all eternity.

        Equally, a god who rewards a ‘martyr’ for killing his other children, willy-nilly does not sound very godlike to me.

        • kikorikid

          Everywhere Marxist-Socialism has “strived”
          they have murdered millions. Islam has murdered
          millions on Jihad. Say something like asking
          foregiveness because the next round will not
          end well for your ilk. Our eyes are open to
          your plans and we will defend our Nation, our Families,
          and our Laws-Traditions and Heritage.
          Please continue “FORWARD”
          We await at the end of your road.

    • Habbgun

      You are dead on. The sad part is the Left get treated like citizens and never have to answer for their part in this war. They act like recruiters and agent provocateurs and then step aside and point fingers. They should be held accountable. Certainly the teachers involved should have been sacked but England has long idealized Islam.

      • BagLady

        As far as I recall, the Tories have always represented the Right Rich and, prior to Blair’s New Labour, the left spoke for the working classes.

        The Queen’s Speech had to be rescheduled — much to her Majesty’s chagrin — because Cameron had no policies to speak of and needed more time to formulate a few.

        The fact that Islam has infiltrated the education system in Britain has everything to do with greed. The new school system has allowed Academies to multiply at an alarming rate with no oversight until a whistleblower turns up in the media.

  • http://geoffreybritain.wordpress.com/ Geoffrey_Britain

    Perhaps the willfully blind citizens of the UK will only awaken when gays begin to be beheaded in the public square with their heads placed on fence pikes around Buckingham palace. Europe’s fate will irrefutably demonstrate Islam’s true nature.

    “2030 – that’s when we take over” – a popular t-shirt worn by Muslim youth in Sweden

    • BagLady

      Money rules this world. The Muslim youth of Sweden standing on the street corners in silly T-shirts are no more a threat than your drunk…. probably less so.

      • Paul Austin Murphy

        Are you being serious? Don’t you ever read the news? Too much Guardian? Aren’t you aware of the Muslim ghettos and the rape epidemic in Sweden and Norway? Use the Internet – there’s a vast amount of info on these things… unless you dismiss all these websites, bogs and newspapers simply because they have the wrong politics…

        Even left-wing websites and newspapers acknowledge the very new and very severe problems of violence and rape in Sweden and Norway – they just don’t say “Muslim violence” and “Muslim rape”.

        • BagLady

          Just had the pleasure of the company of a young Swedish woman for 3 days — dreadlocks n all — but never got around to politics. I cannot comment as have never had the pleasure of visiting so far north. I know that part of the world is heavily taxed with a maternal government. Such an heavily tax-dependent society cannot possibly carry the weight of mass immigration and their rather insular thinking will suffer a tremendous shock. Eight months a year under snow does not allow for much food production and it must be very costly keeping warm.

          Can’t imagine why those with no resilience against the cold would choose northern Europe. I sure wouldn’t…… Unless your government made me an irresistible offer, of course.

          • Paul Austin Murphy

            “I cannot comment as have never had the pleasure of visiting so far north. I know that part of the world is heavily taxed with a maternal government.”

            I don’t understand: you can’t comment on the Muslim rape jihad, and the Islamic ghettoisation of places like Oslo and Stockholm; yet you seem to know about the heavy taxation and the “maternal governments” of Scandinavia. Perhaps this just shows that the news about this relentless and violent Islamisation isn’t getting through to the UK and US. Nonetheless, it is there to find and it has often been featured in FrontPage.

            “Such an heavily tax-dependent society cannot possibly carry the weight of mass immigration and their rather insular thinking will suffer a
            tremendous shock.”

            According to the Swedish government, every Syrian refugee has an automatic place in Sweden. It’s clear that this is a massive Leftist experiment in social engineering. It’s a blindingly obvious attempt to change the social and political nature of Sweden – something they’ve been doing, anyway, since the 1960s. The same thing happened in the UK between 2000 and 2010 when we imported up to five million immigrants.

            These huge social and political experiments would have made Joseph Stalin very jealous.

          • BagLady

            This may well be true. Apart from the one-man Neo-Nazi attack on the island, I don’t recall the last time I saw northern European countries featuring on world news.

            These huge social and political experiments would have made Joseph Stalin very jealous.

            They are surely irreversible but I have trouble with the agenda. The world is still run by older, rich white men. Apart from stamping out the middle classes and providing an huge pond of ‘zero hour contract’ workers — they used to stand on street corners in the early hours waiting for the truck to come around. The gang master would single out the strongest and send the rest home hungry — who satisfy the corporate world, changing the very environment they themselves live in seems a little illogical. Rather like the $millionaires of India living behind their high walls in sublime luxury. They too must share the squalor and filth that begins outside their very mansions.

          • kikorikid

            Baggo, Try to understand this.
            The immigrants referred to here are not “economic”
            or “war” refugies. They are here,UK-EU-Neath-USA,
            to carry out “Civilization Jihad”. They have no pretense
            at assimilation nor will they ever have it. They
            collect ALL social welfare benefits but do not
            see it as Westerners view it. They view benefits
            as JIZYA, a tax on Dhimmis for Muslim tolerance.
            They are here to:
            Conquer
            Submit
            Convert
            or Kill the non-believers
            Where do you fit into their plan?

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        When those “silly T-Shirts” call for your death, you might have a different view.

        • BagLady

          Walk on by

      • NAHALKIDES

        No, brute force rules much of this world, sad to say. The formerly free nations were the only place this wasn’t true. Islam is a form of totalitarianism, or rule by brute force. The Muslim “youths” of Sweden raping Swedish girls and threatening to chop people’s heads off are a very real threat, one we must be prepared to meet first with cultural resistance and then by retaliatory force to put it down.

        • Drakken

          Brute force from us westerners is going to become the mantra once again as things go from bad to worse.

          • BagLady

            .. and things go from bad to worse because of western aggression. The intentional cycle where everyone believes they are ‘controlling’ the damaging effects of their gambles.

            I do believe that if Monsanto and Co ‘buy up’ Africa we will see the ‘bread-basket’ of the world ploughed from end to end. The “Promise to produce enough food to feed the continent.” rings a bit hollow when you ask how the out-of-work peasant farmers will be able to buy any of this produce having been shifted to barren townships with no hope of an income. Will it cause trouble? Will they have to be eliminated?

          • Drakken

            There is that communist thingy coming out of the pie hole of mouth of yours. It would seem that the education that you were indoctrinated with has done its job quite well, too ignorant and too stupid for your own good.

          • BagLady

            If you wish to improve your prose, might I suggest you cite which post, sentence wha’ever you find this “communist thingy” . It makes no sense otherwise and is rather childish.

          • Drakken

            Cousin It, your whining about western aggression, gives us insight of your case of the vapors and communism, and of course everything is all the wests fault and we are so mean.

        • BagLady

          The birth rates in the Sub-Continent are out of control. It is startling to watch it happen before your very eyes and I’m afraid you too will soon witness such sights, thanks to all our porous borders. I grieve for my lost cities and will no doubt soon grieve for my lost people.

          “I’m a Muslim. I must have many sons.” was the answer given by my young ‘driver’ — he had the skinniest b-m I ever saw and earned very little. The Hindus have similar beliefs, although I put it down to machismo rather than belief – the men can’t be bothered to use birth control and it just means one more body sleeping on the floor and a bit more and a few less curried bones each…. until they get to the gold-paved streets of Britain. No need to eat bones nor sleep on the floor. Two houses have to be knocked into one to comply with Health and Safety. It is their human right to live in the area of their choice, hence the very salubrious areas of London being taken over. Each child must have an allowance to ensure he is healthy and able to take his ‘rightful’ place in our society. It is unsustainable and both sides of the House have been guilty of leaving the door wide open to all-comers, and continue to do so.

          Who will ever go to the Hague for this. It comes under the heading ‘genocide’ in my opinion.

          Until their/our governments do a bit of educating the people in the matter of population control the poor and uneducated ‘feral’ classes will continue to spill out of their home countries all over the place. China’s one child policy has never been popular but it certainly turned the tide.

          • Drakken

            Darwin has a way of separating the wheat from the chaff. when 3rd world populations explode, war and famine always come to accompany it. Our own western cities will be war zones and communist like you who thought bringing the 3rd world and the inherent problems they bring with it will be hunted down and dealt with accordingly.

          • BagLady

            There you go again. I have NEVER advocated transporting the third world west. What utter nonsense. What I have said, however, is that your aggression has ignited the Middle East and the fall-out is inevitable.

          • Drakken

            Burn baby burn! It doesn’t take much to get the muzzys to riot and kill, just our very presence there gets them to go homicidal. It is only a matter of time before us westerners put on the mailed fist and give it to these effing 3rd world savages, in spades.

      • Drakken

        You really do ignore reality don’t you? Your living proof that you just can’t fix stupid, not even with duct tape. You and others of your ilk deserve your fate.

        • WhiteHunter

          My friend Drakken, I’ve resisted–with more self control than I knew I had–the impulse to reply to the “Lady,” for several reasons:

          First, because we have no way of knowing whether the troll is actually female, or a male just using that presumed gender (and presumed low, pitiful socioeconomic status) in his screen name hoping for some advantage; or (quite possibly) a creature who was born as one or the other gender (there are just two–you’re born either XY or XX), but then decided in his/her mental confusion (which spills over into the troll’s confusion about everything else, including Reality as a whole) that it didn’t fit his/her “preference,” and is now still in the “pre-op” stage before the surgery has been completed and/or the hormone treatments have taken full effect and the patient is fully comfortable with his/her new “identity.”

          Second, because there is some value, I think, in allowing a creature like this one to spew (within reasonable limits, of course), not in order to protect a lunatic troll’s “right” to do so, but only so that the sane and the reasonable can see exactly what we’re up against.

          And Third, because…well, because I don’t like to give Her/Him/TBD the attention that such a troll craves so desperately in order to feel “valued,” and important enough to deserve our (or anybody’s) serious attention.

          My advice? Just Downvote the “Lady’s” posts, and ignore, as I have done.

          • Drakken

            Ok, for the sake of argument, lets just call her cousin it. ;)

          • BagLady

            Another ‘grey head’ but clearly of the elderly mindset…. And rather devious with it. Fancy spewing at great length behind the “Lady’s” back without having the courage to address her personally.

            He should be made to bow!

          • Drakken

            Cousin It, your not fit for purpose and you certainly maybe fit to lick my dusty boots, but that is about it.

        • BagLady

          Is there a particular point you would like to highlight in my posts, or are you just trolling?

          • Drakken

            Because Cousin It, you make no point, other than to try to throw a monkey wrench into the works and call for communism to be implemented.

          • BagLady

            You are totally absurd. Never have I advocated communism as a workable system.

          • Drakken

            Cousin It, your caterwauling about rich people really does say it all. Totally absurd indeed.

  • malcolm7173

    I agree with Trojan Horses, this has already started here in America. But what the American people don’t understand that this is how Islam starts. Look at Dearborn, MI which ful or Muslims. They have communities throughout America. These people have an agenda and that’s to destroy the Western World and its valve system. They want Islam to rule here in America and it looks like that going to happen with the help of our own government and our federal court system.

    • BagLady

      Ah yes, the dilemma of governments both sides of the pond. Cheap labour versus catastrophic societal disruption. Hm.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Cheap labor?

        Your Islamofascists don’t work. They go on “the dole”.

        Happy Eternal Nakba Ms. Piggy!

      • Drakken

        No matter what, you bloody communist keep trying communism and it fails every goddamn time.

      • laura r

        if 80% are on welfare how is it cheap labor?

        • BagLady

          Don’t ask me. Ask the British governments on both sides of the House who argue that this is “Good for Britain” because “…..everyone knows the Brits are lazy and foreigners work harder and boost the economy”

          • laura r

            so they take in 100 to get 20 to work?

          • laura r

            no they are there because SA is paying the british higher ups.

  • haveittodayray

    Islam and Sharia law
    will come to America in one generation by the stealth invasion equivalent to a
    modern version of the “Trojan Horse”, by Muslim immigration. Unless good men
    and woman speak up now.

    Abraham Lincoln said, “To sin by silence when they should
    protest makes cowards of men”. When our
    mainstream news will not inform you of one of the main issues of the 21st
    Century, due to political correctness,
    then it’s time not to be silent anymore.

    Muslim refugees from Somalia and other “warzones” to the
    tune of 500,000 being relocated to America is the issue. Forget about being labeled a racist, bigot or
    being politically correct, silence won’t turn back the tide. This immigration
    is a real and growing and is a threatening danger to America. Just look at
    Europe today folks. 60 million Muslims immigrated to Europe and 80% are on some
    sort of public assistance, bankrupting the towns, cities and countries. Due to
    Muslim immigration France is now bankrupt and a welfare State. Is America next?

    The time has come to speak up and take a stand folk, for
    America. Awareness is the issue as most
    families are simply far too busy, working two jobs, raising their children and
    do not have a clue or the time to research the issue. Islamic forces are destroying
    Europe; they’re in a fight for survival. The root cause is the inevitable
    consequences of multiculturalism and immigration plus the alarming birthrate of
    Muslims now an average of 8.1 children in each Muslim family. Europe has
    literally been invaded. Europe will become an Islamic state due to the
    immigration and sheer birthrate of Muslims.

    I have done that for you, if you Google
    “TheProjectMuslimBrotherhood” you will find that this is their doctrine to destroy America and West from within by
    stealth jihad, and lies. Guess what,
    the doctrine is over 20 years old, and they are making substantial
    progress. We are now approaching 2400
    Mosques along with approximately 2.7 million Muslims here in America.

    “We will conquer Europe! (They are almost there) We will
    conquer America! Not through the sword but through Dawa (proselytizing)
    Yosuf-alQarawi, Muslim Brotherhood.”

    “We love death more than you love life.” Quoted from the
    Fort Hood massacre killer. Islamists
    seek civilization Jihad and will stop as they literally follow the Quran.
    Although you can find peaceful passages, the Quran speaks violence throughout
    it. It is no Bible.

    Massive immigration and multiculturalism is literally
    destroying most of Europe today. There
    are over 700 “Islamic No Go Zones”, within France, England and Germany, where
    police cannot enter. Take a look around
    you Dearborn, Michigan, Maine, Tennessee, Minnesota, (has the majority of
    Somalia refugees and a Senator who took his oath and placed his hand on the
    Quran refused the Bible.) New York, California, Colorado for examples of the
    immigration resettlement program, and very soon coming to your State. Over 90% of them are illiterate and in need
    of public assistance. Have you been to Paris or Sweden recently? Immigration is
    bankrupting much of Europe.

    I have no problem with the “peaceful Muslims” that wants to
    integrate into our culture and follow our laws.
    The problem lies in that the
    militant Muslims dominate the peaceful ones and eventually wants to force Islam
    and Sharia law upon us all. They agitate and campaign to dominate the
    rest. Why should America be forced into adapting to their culture? They
    must adapt to our culture. The Boston bombers were motivated by extreme
    militant Islamic beliefs. Our mainstream news is in denial of the danger of
    understating the issue of the Muslim/Islam problem in America today. Many of the Mosques are breeding grounds for
    home grown terrorists. Today in our
    prisons over 18% of the prison population are being converted to Islam by
    recruitment by extremists. Islam berg,
    in New York is a breeding ground for over 30 militant training compounds in
    America today.

    The media has yet to uncover the truth. For the truth is
    that there are no so called “moderate” Muslims. “Islam is one religion
    following Koran and Sunna” I have also read the Koran cover to cover. It is not
    a peaceful religion as they would have you believe.

    Sad to say, they are making inroads into every facet of our
    lives and trying to change our culture, under the guise of the first
    amendment. Already, they are changing
    our schools, universities, cities, towns and even our own government has been
    infiltrated. They want Sharia law and
    will stop at nothing to see that it happens. School textbooks are being changed
    to put Islam in a more favorable light.
    Have you been to a school board meeting recently? Food menus are being
    changed to accommodate all of them.

    The Saudis “oil money” contributes to schools, universities
    and politicians so they can put Islam in a more favorable light in America. Their intent is to destroy us from within,
    not by “war” but rather by stealth jihad and intentional deception and front
    organizations like “CAIR” who support Hamas. They are gradually succeeding
    folks. There are now over 50 Islamic organizations within our own borders.
    Concessions made to Muslims are growing everyday in America. You are just not
    aware or do not care. Recently, in a Catholic University, a group of Muslims is
    suing for discriminating against them
    for not allowing them to “pray” in a room without a crucifixion, how absurd,
    let them go elsewhere.

    When Jews, Christians, Priests, Infidels are being
    slaughtered and murdered, and churches are being burned down did you ever
    wonder why the so called peaceful moderate Muslims, never speak out against
    these atrocities? Europe is losing the battle and America in less than a
    generation will be next. Where is the
    condemnation from the nearly 3 Million Muslims that are here, have you heard a
    word from them? Their silence speaks volumes on their real intent to destroy us
    from within and have no intention of ever living within our culture. They want Sharia law in America today
    folks, and they will not rest until they achieve that goal.. They want to wage
    war against freedom and democracy and have America continue to make concessions
    for them. You give them “one inch” and
    they will take a mile in support of their goals to establish Islam as the
    dominate religion in America and for the eventual mandate for Sharia law to
    take over our court system.

    Sharia law is a real threat to America’s freedom folks. They
    just accomplished that fact, in England this week. We can learn a lot from just
    watching what is taking place in London.

    Islam is a political
    ideology; it is the antithesis of a free society. One generation of silence on the issue due to
    political correctness is all it takes.
    What you do today and tomorrow will affect your children and
    grandchildren and future generations of
    America, yet unborn, you have a
    responsibility toward them.. Stand
    up and be counted to defeat this real threat from within. Voice your opinion, let your congressmen,
    senators and school boards know how you feel on the issue. Our freedom and
    liberty is at stake, be part of the solution folks.

    Forget about being
    labeled and simply do what is right for America. We need a permanent solution, time is running
    out. Let us not become the next Europe. As for me I refuse to be silent on the
    issue. One person can make a difference,
    but think if were united, what a difference we can make to turn back the tide
    and doctrine of the Muslim Brotherhood.
    Enough is enough folks, if you do just one thing today, Google
    “TheProjectMuslimBrotherhood” and see for yourself their intent to destroy
    America from within. Thank you, and
    please forward this to millions. Let me know your opinions.

    • BagLady

      I think we feel this way about interlopers, regardless their roots, if they come in their millions and then multiply. Our genetic make-up changes us from friendly host to angry enemy. It’s logical.

  • Texas Patriot

    It’s probably still too soon to tell, but with this “surprise” discovery about British schools along with David Cameron’s recent directive to investigate the Muslim Brotherhood, there is a chance that the fog is beginning to lift and the British people are beginning to recognize the Trojan Horse in their midst.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Nah. The British people have been lied to, too long. It’s going to take many more casualties in the UK until there is a change of heart.

    • NAHALKIDES

      I don’t place any hope in Cameron – he resembles the Republican Establishment here in the U.S., more concerned with his personal ambition than with saving his country.

  • http://www.clarespark.com/ Clare Spark

    The British Left should not be supporting multiculturalism, for this crypto-racist ideology flouts supposed Marxian principles of an international brotherhood of workers. Look rather to Lenin’s anti-imperialism, shared by leading British communists and Labourites. http://clarespark.com/2012/12/22/my-oppositional-defiant-disorder-and-eric-hobsbawm/. “My oppositional defiant disorder and Eric Hobsbawm.” The jihadists are supported because they are anti-Western and thus anti-imperialist. There is nothing else in the Muslim religion to attract a communist or social democrat.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      It’s the old “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”.

      Hence, the Red/Green (Islamofascist) Axis of EVIL.

      • Wolfthatknowsall

        That saying is true, even if the man who said it was a Muslim prince who was subsequently beheaded by his own people.

  • Frau Katze

    The Times (based in London) has also covered it extensively (but they require a subscription to read anything on their site).

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    The Eurotrash (which includes the UK) have been brainwashed to ignore Islamofascism – and hate the US and Israel.

    • 11johnmac66

      Its very bad I will agree. And especially here in Ireland where I live and have many heated exchanges in defence of freedom and liberty…and my consequential support for Israel and America ( though not Obama ) Terms that are so often not understood as mutually necessary sides of the same coin…what is most often conflated is freedom and sovereignty. Which is also the root of the leftist saying ” one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter ” which of course could only be true if words have no meaning… Anybody who is fighting to impose any kind to totalitarian system i.e. communism or Islamic rule can in no way be defined as a freedom fighter.

      • Gee

        I find it amusing that the phrase ”one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter ” was invented by the KGB to excuse their support for various terrorist groups

        • 11johnmac66

          That is my point entirely…

  • JVR

    The BBC once reported that “The Archbishop of Canterbury says the adoption of certain aspects of Sharia law in the UK “seems unavoidable”.

    See news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7232661.stm

    For this he was essentially hounded out of office. But some thought shows that he is correct — he was making a demographic argument, namely that if you have millions of muslim citizens in the UK, then you cannot avoid their expression of their religion and culture as a result of democratic processes.

    Thus the word “unavoidable”.

    The same goes for schools — Islamic centred school in the UK are unavoidable. Protesting them is closing the barn door long after the horses have bolted.

    The simple facts are that the British have elected, by their votes, and by the politicians they elected into office, to welcome millions of muslim citizens in the UK. They have also elected, simultaneously, to remove Christianity from public schools, where it had a place for generations, if not centuries. That vacuum will be filled, and it is just normal democracy for muslim parents to work for schools which will accommodate faith and values.

    If Christians parents elect to have their kids educated in a “secular” way, then that fact in itself, does not imply that Muslim parents should do the same. They have a perfect right to exercise (as tax-payers) their rights are parents and to demand the kind of schools they want for their kids.

    That they do so in Britain is the result of British immigration policy, and who would be against open doors?

    Ps. Rowan Williams, a brilliant man of faith, was unfairly treated when he stated the obvious.

    • NAHALKIDES

      Who would be against “open doors”? Anyone with an ounce of sense. And note that these Muslim parents you refer to want an Islamic “education” not only for their own children but for everyone else’s. Islam is never content to be a religion among others, a lesson we in the West need to learn. And we need to learn to shut our doors to Muslim immigration, but fast.

    • Drakken

      Williams also advocated for the muslims, for that he is a traitor and should be treated as such. What you are going to get because of these open door policies is a massive civil war that is unprecedented, the coming brutality will make a Serb blush with envy, and people like you will have brought this upon yourselves and just for that reason, I am all out of sympathy for folks like you.

      • JVR

        Mr Drakken

        I think you misunderstood me. I am not advocating for anything above, I believe I am only pointing out the obvious.

        That is, Britain has many Muslim citizens already. They are in Britain, they get born there, they live there, and they practice their religion there.

        The immigration already happened. It is a fait accomplice. It cannot be reversed. Their demography is increasing quickly. They will exercise their rights. Surely.

        This happened because British people voted, in election after election, for politicians who advocated, and implemented, a very liberal policy. Citizens of Britain, themselves, supported this, and may still be supporting this. That is why this cannot be reversed, and why Rowan Williams was correct. He was only stating the obvious.

        As for making war? You will be turning up alone for the battle. Your own people will abandon you, and join the other side. This is the reality of it.

        • Drakken

          I think you fail to realize and understand that those muslims in your midst whether they are born there or foreign, are your enemy and sooner or later it is going to come to blood being spilt and make no mistake, there will be a lot of it. If you thought the IRA and their tactics were brutal, you haven’t seen anything yet, but you will and you can take that to the bank. History time and time again has proved that where ever multiculturalism has been tried or enforced, it has always, without exception, lead to civil war.

          • JVR

            You may be right, I do not know.

            I am not a betting man, but if I have to bet, then my money will be on the more vital. You know who that is.

            Ps. The IRA was always a fringe group, easily contained. Muslim citizens of Britain are not a fringe group. They are in effect already in control in major cities of Britain — the controlling majority, or at least a very influential minority. Many British people will convert to their side. I do not advocate this, I am only telling you what is likely to happen.

            In the end I think their will not be a war or anything like that. The metrosexuals controlling Britain cannot fight wars, they cannot even conceive of wars. They will simply invite more migrants to come, and eventually hardly anyone would remember what Britain was like (in the same way that you cannot recall what it was like to be British in the time of William Pitt the Younger — Britain will be somewhat Muslim, and no one will remember it as ever not being so).

          • Drakken

            The average Brit will be forced to fight for there are only so many resources and it all comes down to simple economics. The one thing that I always can count on is human nature and it’s ability to transform itself into the most bloody brutal folks on the planet when conditions are right. Those conditions are now being met as we speak. All it will take is for some muslim to kill or rape the wrong Brit and retribution will be at hand, and then it will be off to the races where the authorizes will be unable to contain it, folks will have to side with one or the other because their survival will depend upon it.

    • liberalism is a mental illness

      We need another Winston Churchill. And oh yeah – you’re a tool

  • herb benty

    THIS CRUD from a LEFT-WING that just went ballistic if someone wanted a simple Judeo-Christian prayer in public. This proves beyond any doubt that the darkness of Islam is totally fine with the equally dark atheistic, evolutionary LEFT. Islam doesn’t bother the left’s conscience. Killing that innocent British soldier in broad daylight on a London street is bearing fruit- it will be very bitter fruit indeed. Why are the Richard Dawkins types so silent now?

  • Drakken

    With these Islamic names being named, you folks in Britain have your to do list, time to bring in your own version of Night of the Long Knives, and deal with the problem. To allow this to fester in your country will only lead to a bloodier mess later on.

    • johnnie the jew

      It’s really quite simple what is needed in Britain. A referendum on the whether the population would prefer to live under sharia law. Stick that to the left-tarded, drongo, Guardian reading dhimmis and their pusillanimous, cowardly PC groupies. That’s the ultimate litmus test here. Hope they think very carefully before ticking the RIGHT box against a culture destroying, servitude laden life under medieval, totalitarian law. I wonder, wonder, wonder.God created man in his image. Well.I could comment on the inherent absurdity of that analogy but I want this response to be published! The left are no more than flat earth, creationism believing/supporting, delusionists. But, there is a growing number of dissenters who will stand and trade with the threat within. By the way check Pat Condell Godless Comedy. He speaks for people like us in the UK. He’s the muts nuts. Rock on.

      • Drakken

        It is far too little and too late for a referendum, the only thing that is going to stop this nonsense is for the torches and pitchforks to come out, then they will pay attention.

        • Johnnie the jew

          Yeah I can run with that Drakken except we’ll be using tools far more sophisticated that torches and pitchforks for sure. Aren’t the israelis working on invisible missiles. And the Russkies know a thing or two about gas. Goodness knows what the Chinese have in their pipes.

          • Drakken

            I was using the torches and pitchforks as a metaphor, not to be literal, yes I do know and understand lotsa guns and ammo will be used shortly.

  • ssohara

    I don’t have a problem with kids learning about the Muslim faith as long as they are also learning about the Christian faith. That is where this whole multiculturalism falls on its butt. Did Ms. Small also set up a way for the kids to attend Anglican and Catholic church services to learn about the religions that played such a huge part in English history? (Henry VIII, etc.) How about a visit to a Hindu or Buddhist temple or a synagogue? Of course, the reason none of these ideas were explored is because Muslim parents would have a cow if their kids were allowed to learn a little about other faiths – Islam being a religion of blind submission. There is nothing wrong, from my perspective, with learning about other cultures and religions but it must be a two way (or multi way) street with each faith being respected. The way it seems to work in Britain is that people SAY all faiths are equal but in reality one faith (Islam) is more equal than others because that faith’s believers are willing to violently insure that.

    • johnnie the jew

      It is a grave error to consider and treat Islam as a “religion”. It’s not. It’s a fascist death cult, totalitarian ideology. Why do you think muslim brigades fought along side the Nazis. Plenty of common ground. The sooner we take religion off the agenda in schools altogether and stop giving charitable status to faith schools the quicker we might catch up with those clever Chinese school kids. They don’t get the option to study “religion” until the age of 18 !! And they’re whipping the butts off the Brits in learning achievement. Plus they don’t have to contend with largely illiterate asylum seekers and refugees from failed Islamic states in their education system.
      Must be that the Chinese realise that the so called “holy books” of the 2 deluded monotheisms (Christianity and the more toxic islam) should be consigned to the subject of literature under the FICTION section.

      • Tanks-a-lot

        There should be no such thing as government directed education in the first place.

      • ssohara

        Religion has been a huge part of human history, so in that context it’s important to learn about it. Also, it’s not true that faith and religion are necessarily opposed. The guy who came up with the Big Bang Theory was a Catholic priest, Le Maitre, and Gregory Mendel was also a priest (theory of dominant and recessive genes) and there have been others (mathematicians, physicists, etc.) who have been religious. Ramunajan was a devout Hindu. The issue is not peoples’ beliefs – and honestly, Muslims are also entitled to their beliefs, atheists to theirs. The problem is when one group wants to impose its will on another. I don’t have an issue with a Mormon knocking on my door – I can choose to ignore the knock or open and engage in conversation. But when someone forces me to listen to their viewpoint or forces me to convert – those are huge issues for me. And it’s worse with children.

        • 11johnmac66

          well as you point out it is important to study and investigate the various religions. But what do you do when you have studied such and realise that one i.e. Islam is in fact anathema to the very concept of human rights…which it is since the punishment for apostasy is death. In short you are dealing with a creed that is incompatible with any idea of a liberal democratic society.
          Or those very basic premises of Islam that demand the enforcement and their empowerment in the subjection of all others via either convert, pay the jizya ( protection money ) or die.
          And indeed it is worse with children…they haven’t learned how to think otherwise.
          Do you in reality think for one second that these pro Islamists were going to discuss freely and critically the religions of the world…since it is also forbidden to criticise Islam and Muhammad…Would that you might read that text with a critical mind you might not be so undiscerningly foolish.

          • ssohara

            actually, if one calls for an open and frank discussion of ALL religions, it is the easiest way to expose Muslim hypocrisy. There are many people who are perfectly nice, tolerant, liberal types who want to be accepting of Muslims, etc., because they harbor illusions about Islam. If you put forth the idea that we allow study of Islam as long as the study of other religions also occurs, then the protestations by the radical Muslims might open their eyes… or maybe I am simply being incredibly naïve…

          • 11johnmac66

            I like your happy flower power perspective n all But …What you have also got to contend with is/are the differing conditions of the meaning of Hypocrite… For Muhammad it meant a fellow who claimed to be a Muslim but always shirked Jihad…( wanted to live in peace with KUFFIRS. ) And for western Christians it was quiet otherwise; to not want to live in peace with his fellow man…
            I hate to say it but your on the naïve side…the world is on fire and I can’t afford NICE…

    • Drakken

      There is no moral and religious equivalency where islam is concerned, the fact that islam is in the west is an abomination to begin with, to allow these sub human inbred savages to dictate anything to us westerners should have everyone up in arms.

    • kikorikid

      You personify “Idealist”.
      “Have a cow”, is incredibly naiive.
      They would be out in the streets carrying
      out violence in the name of Allah. “You
      have “Blasphemed” Allah therefore we
      will attack old ladies as well as rape
      young ones.” “Behead the non-believers”.
      Suggestion, Whenever you hear the “equivalency”
      argument always resort to “FACTS”.

  • CaoMoo

    Islam is the zombie apocalypse

  • johnnywood

    The UK deserves everything that mooslims do to it.

  • Patriotliz

    So what’s the difference between the KKK, Nazism and Islam? The latter can get away with calling itself a religion.

  • WhiteHunter

    I’d like to add one more important detail (and difference) about Ultra.

    Polish patriots were able to “acquire”–and managed, somehow, to deliver to Bletchley Park before their homeland was overrun by the Wehrmacht–two Enigma machines; sailors in the Royal Navy snagged another one of these funny-looking “typewriters” along with its code book from the sinking U-boat they’d just depth-charged as they rescued the submarine’s survivors.

    From this bonanza of hardware and “software,” Bletchley Park’s genius code-breakers were able to decipher, read, and forward to Churchill for action the enemy’s exact location, strength, plans, and intentions.

    Today we don’t even need what those Bletchley Park codebreakers had to work with, or even their level of genius, or secrecy. All we need is to open our eyes, to think, and to use our common sense.

  • truetolife

    Islam is like puss in an open wound, it just keeps spreading until the limb falls off. It’s time to put a stop to it.

  • Kyaw Win

    It depends on what you see this from which angle. Different people in different ideas do what they think the best but this doesn’t represent the whole Muslim world. This article is an output of the idea of islamphobia.

  • Mena

    let GB drink from the same cup they create in the Arab countries which the Muslims groups, and eastern Christians and only them who pay till the end for this British and American sin , now British people Screaming out of fear of invasion of these groups to the British society, and still supporting them ( the biggest center of the Muslim brotherhood in all Europe in London) .. this is the judgement day and the God answering the tears and blood of Christians in country Egypt and the other Arab countries.

    • Frank Black

      Lets hope they dont cut your head off then.

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