The Incoherence of Western Foreign Policy

lkjThe crisis in Ukraine is just the latest in a long series of foreign policy failures brought about by the incoherence in our thinking about foreign relations. On the one hand, we have championed ethnic-national self-determination as the highest international good, while on the other we have assumed that all these various nations and peoples share the same ideals, principles, and goods, and so can comprise a transnational order that will eliminate war and conflict and create peace and prosperity. Over a hundred years of history reveal these ideals not just to be incompatible, but also to foment and worsen inter-state violence.

To mean anything, ethnic-nationalist particularism must embody profound differences among nations, including languages, customs, mores, religions, ideals, and values. The identity of a people is defined by these differences, and that identity in turn creates interests and aims that necessarily clash with those of other peoples. To take one particularly important example, different countries have different attitudes about the legitimacy of using violence to achieve their goals. Russia under Vladimir Putin obviously sees no problem with using force or the threat of force to protect its interests in Moldova, Georgia, and now Crimea and Ukraine. The Muslim Middle East is rich with examples of the acceptability of violence, whether against external or internal enemies, in protecting a nation’s or a regime’s power and privilege. The brutal civil war in Syria is the obvious current example. Complaints about this brutality, moreover, on the part of victims usually are based on who is using violence, not the universal principle that violence is wrong. The same clerical revolutionaries in Iran who decried the brutality of the Shah’s secret police have had no problem using even worse brutality once they were in power, killing more Iranians in one year than the Savak did in 20. Violence, brutality, and torture are all fine depending on who the perpetrators are, and who the victims.

Idealistic internationalism, on the other hand, must pretend that these practices which conflict with Western norms are aberrations, remnants of a less enlightened mentality that has not yet changed and progressed to embracing the superior values of the West. No reasonable human, we assume, could approve of violence, revenge, religious triumphalism, or the lust for greater power and influence at the expense of other countries, when in our calculation pursuing such aims comes with great risks and costs. After all, there is a global “harmony of interests,” as they said in the 19th century, that include freedom, respect for human rights, peace, and prosperity, and these preferences have been enshrined in international law, institutions, and treaties that will achieve those boons for everybody. Many Westerners who believe in this sort of idealistic internationalism point to the participation of so many countries in organizations like the United Nations, or in treaties that proscribe land mines, forbid nuclear proliferation, or promote human rights, as proof of this “harmony of interests” and a universal human nature more important than nationalist or ethnic identity. But that participation in the main is a consequence of the West’s domination of the globe, not of adherence to universal principles. Just as most global leaders wear Western suits and ties, most countries go along with these Western ideals, even as they use such institutions and aims to promote their own national interests.

Hence the hypocrisy that lies at the heart of the international order. Sovereign nations pursue their particular interests, which necessarily conflict with those of others, using the international order when they find it useful to do so, and ignoring it when they don’t. That’s what it means to be “sovereign.” Thus Russia has responded to the U.S. and E.U.’s warnings of sanctions by threatening to suspend compliance with the international inspections called for under the START treaty with the U.S., and the Vienna Document binding on the member states of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. But even before the current crisis, Russia has been serially cheating on arms-reduction treaties. North Korea, Iran, and the Palestinian Arabs have all played the same game. To paraphrase Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan’s comments about democracy, internationalism is like a train. You take it where you have to go and then you get off.

The long history of the failure of international diplomacy and institutions to prevent devastating wars and other brutal conflicts should have long discredited this faith in internationalism and its utopian ideals’ ability to trump the zero-sum interests and conflicting identities of nations. If sovereign nations have the right to determine their own destinies because they are essentially different from other nations, then we must accept that they will have their own interests, no matter how irrational we may think them, that conflict with those other countries. An international order that takes one civilization’s ideals and principles as the standard for the whole world will clash with those different ideals and principles, and in the end will have to use force to impose that standard that they believe to be superior. And if they do not have the will or morale to back their idealistic words with mind-concentrating deeds, then they will be viewed with contempt by those other nations, who will see in weakness an opportunity.

Just peruse the comments coming from President Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry about the Ukraine crisis, and you can hear all the unexamined assumptions and received opinions that result from the incoherent combination of idealistic internationalism and national self-determination. Kerry scolded Putin by evoking the dubious idea that the world has progressed beyond violence and has endorsed diplomacy as the globally preferred method of adjudicating disputes, even as he sounded the ideal of national self-determination. Putin’s actions, Kerry said, are “really 19th-century behavior in the 21st century,” not “G-8, major-nation behavior.” A sovereign nation using power to pursue its interests as determined by that nation is somehow uncivilized, according of course to Western ideals. No, Kerry instructs the wily Putin, “It is diplomacy and respect for sovereignty, not unilateral force, that can best solve disputes like this in the 21st century.” But what if a sovereign nation determines that another nation’s interests endanger its own, using force is in its interests, and diplomacy is merely a tactic in successfully doing so? Do we still “respect” that nation’s sovereignty?

So too the President, who said, “Our goal is to make sure that the people of Ukraine are able to make decisions for themselves about their future, that the people of Syria are able to make the decisions without having bombs going off.” But what if it takes “bombs going off,” because of the aggressors who use violence to protect and advance their interests, to make sure Ukrainians and Syrians will in fact be able to “make decisions for themselves”? Next Obama smugly asserts that Putin seemingly doesn’t understand his own peoples’ interests, which lie in embracing the international order. “There are times, I hope, where Russia will recognize that over the long term they should be on board with those values and interests as well,” for “In 2014, we are well beyond the days when borders can be redrawn over the heads of democratic leaders.” What possible empirical evidence can Obama produce that suggests this assertion is remotely true?

Then he assures the Russians “that they can be part of an international community’s effort to support the stability and success of a united Ukraine going forward, which is not only in the interest of the people of Ukraine and the international community, but also in Russia’s interest.” The assumption that the world has progressed beyond violence, and that a nation’s interests can be advanced only by harmonizing with the interests of a fanciful “international community,” bespeaks a delusional arrogance dangerous in a world of nations that still see their particular interests, not those of a mythical “international community,” as paramount, and achieving them by any means they can get away with perfectly justified.

The conflict of national sovereignty and international idealism cannot be resolved without sacrificing the former to the latter. If nations have a right to rule themselves and determine their interests, on what basis do we judge those interests unacceptable? And if there is a set of ideals and principles that transcend national sovereignty, where do they come from, who has decided that they are universal and superior, and who is going to enforce them? Certainly not today’s West, whose intellectuals and elites, like Barack Obama, have embraced cultural relativism and self-loathing national guilt, even as they preach the gospel of human rights and idealistic internationalism that originated in the West and spread on the heels of Western power and economic success. Our hectoring sermons merely tell the world that we are weak, we don’t believe even in the ideals we loudly profess, and aggressors are not going to be punished for their depredations.


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  • Viking

    Russia is arming like a madman and becomes more and more aggressive. Sooner or later the evil empire will have to be confronted again.

    • Nabukuduriuzhur

      Interesting how, in one stupid action, Russia threw away 21 years’ worth of western investment and goodwill. Back to the bad old days…


      Or not.

    • slawea

      Ezekial Ch’s 38-39 tells plainly of Russia future. Gog, the leader of Magog which is, in modern day called Moscow. Want to know? Look it up. Incredible, but DEADLY.! God’s words are not for the squeamish. After ??? years, Russia joins Iran (Persia till a few decades ago and incl. Iraq) and a whole bunch of nations….won’t spoil the end for ya’. Read on if you will……

  • Bamaguje

    ““Our goal is to make sure that the people of Ukraine are able to make decisions for themselves about their future” – Obama.

    Really?? ‘People of Ukraine’? ‘making decisions for themselves’?
    Does that include those parts of Ukraine with large Russian population who want to secede? Or is it just for the West Ukrainians who want to join EU/NATO?

    Of course there is incoherence in Western foreign policy. The West welcomed the break up of Yugoslavia, and NATO bombed Serbia to force it to give up Kosovo. But the same West was opposed to Bosnian Serbs breaking out of Bosnia.

    The West celebrated Ukraine and other Soviet Republics breaking out of the defunct USSR, but is opposed to ethnic Russians breaking out of Ukraine, or Abkhazians breaking out of Georgia.

    With regards to misuse of force in foreign policy, the West is also abundantly guilty. NATO went way beyond UN mandate for no-fly-zone over Benghazi, to bombard Gaddafi’s Libya and install Al-Qaeda linked Jihadists.
    Without UN approval, NATO also bombarded Serbia to force her to give up Kosovo, and prevent Bosnian Serbs unifying with the rest of Serbia.

    Not to forget Bush II’s invasion of Iraq on the false pretext of non-existent WMD. This was why Bush was unable to deal with the real WMD threat in the region – Iran. Lest the U.S. be accused of warring against another Muslim nation.

  • Jagatheesan Chandrasekharan

    5 ) اللغة العربية الفصحى

    الناس ليست سوى FED UP مع الكونغرس ، أطراف إقليمية أخرى (AAP ) و حزب بهاراتيا جاناتا !
    وبالتالي الحصول على المفتاح الرئيسي !
    FOR THE فيل BSP !

    المؤتمر يدعو مودي كما Chaiwala و جايالاليثا كما الفيل و شخص يدعو راهول
    كما Panipuriwala جميع المبالغ إهانة hubmle والعمل الجاد chaiwalas ،
    الفيل و Panipuriwalas .

    ، Bahuth Jiyadha Paapi ( حزب بهاراتيا جاناتا ) و Asuras مساعدة Paapi
    (AAP ) كلها رقائق من نفس الحديد القديمة و كتل الفحم. النسور من نفس featherflocking معا ل تتغذى على جثث المزارعين يتضورون
    جوعا و الآن على الأحياء الفقيرة dwellers.If واحد هو “أ” فريق البعض الآخر
    ‘ب’ و فرق ‘C ‘ .

    قد مللي ماياواتي قال بحق أن هناك الصدع الداخلي بين مودي ، أدفاني و راجناث سينغ. الآن
    وقد انضم واحد من أصحاب الشبح عبادة RSS ل Bahuth Jiyadha Paapi ( حزب
    بهاراتيا جاناتا ) جوشي، سوشما سوراج ، الجي تاندون المعركة. وبالتالي،
    فإن سارفا ساماج أي و جميع الجمعيات بما في ذلك SC / ST / OBC / الأقليات و
    البراهمة الفقراء، بني ياس و kashatriyas التصويت لصالح البديل الوحيد و
    أمل الأمة الفيل BSP ل اكتساب KEY MASTER ل هذه الرفاهية والسعادة و السلام
    على النحو المنصوص عليه في الدستور المساواة في توزيع الثروة.

    استيقظ مع الوعي Baniya الإعلام Kejri ( مجنون ) revol ( الاصدار ) ‘ق سوف
    Natak باز ( دراما) من اسورا بمساعدة Paapis (AAP ) بما في ذلك Bahuth
    Jiyadha Paapis ( حزب بهاراتيا جاناتا ) و صوت الفيل BSP و السيدة ماياواتي
    ستكون أكبر مع سوف 100٪ أن
    تثير هذه المناقشات وتوجيه الرأي العام. هذا
    ما نحن بحاجة على it.but للفشل لجنة الانتخابات المتعمد من مسؤوليتها ل
    تشمل جميع المواطنين المؤهلين كناخبين و أسماء إزالة استراتيجيا من قائمة
    الناخبين كل هذه السنوات عن طريق الذهاب من الباب إلى الباب لصالح الشبح
    عبادة RSS ل Bahuth Jiyadha Paapis ( حزب بهاراتيا جاناتا ) . أشرطة الفيديو showingCEC في الملابس البلدية الهندوتفا يثبت هذا .

    2 . لم CEC لن تمر أوامر لثنى رمز HAND الكونغرس و زهرة الوطني لوتس من حزب
    بهاراتيا جاناتا و تماثيل زعماء الطائفة العلوية عندما ذهب دولهم حكمت
    للانتخابات كما فعلت مع رموز الفيل السيدة ماياواتي في BSP و SC التاريخية /
    ST / OBC ‘ ق الأيقونات والتماثيل .

    3 . فتح شفرة المصدر من EVMS التي لم يتم العبث بأدلة لا يزال يتعين على الملأ.

    EC الفساد الشبح عبادة RSS ل Bahuth Jiyadha Paapi ( حزب بهاراتيا جاناتا
    ) التآمر ، أسود خارج BSP في سارفا ساماج (كل جمعية ) بما في ذلك
    SC / ST / OBC / الأقليات، ضعيف البراهمة ، و بني ياس في حملة kshatriya .

    الانتخابات اوتار براديش الجمعية الماضي السيدة ماياواتي من BSP حكم ،
    أمرت لجنة الانتخابات المركزية ل اللف جميع رموز BSP الفيل بما في ذلك
    الجذع أثارت تلك (غير BSP الرمز ) جنبا إلى جنب مع جميع SC التاريخية /
    تماثيل ST / OBC الرموز ‘ ل متكافئة الأرضي . بعد ذلك العديد من الكونغرس، الشبح عبادة RSS ل Bahuth Jiyadha Paapi ( حزب بهاراتيا جاناتا ) حكمت ذهبت الدول ل استطلاعات الرأي . ولكن لجنة الانتخابات المركزية لم يكلفوا أنفسهم عناء لأجل اللف اليد و
    زهرة لوتس الرموز الوطنية و قادة الطائفة العلوية التماثيل الخاصة بهم.

    كما آلات التصويت الالكترونية ليست غير قابلة للتزوير ، يجب على لجنة
    الانتخابات المركزية بنشر بهم SOURCE CODE و جعله مفتوح SOURCE CODE

    1 . فمن لجنة الانتخابات الفاسدة التي لم تسجل نفقات الحملة الانتخابية مودي
    نارندرا لل نفقات ذات صلة الإستطلاع الذي يكلف ما يصل الى Rs.50 كرور روبية
    ل Rs.100 في مسيرة تعبئة ما يصل الى مليون تكلفة crowdincluding من البث
    المباشر .

    2 . لم
    جنة الانتخابات لن توقف مسوح استطلاع غوجارات CM مودى كان الإسقاط – دون
    أي ذكر ل تنفيذ الدستور – كان ينبغي لجنة الانتخابات أنها تمتلك ‘ هذا
    ASSURACE ستة أشهر على الأقل مقدما ‘ يتم إدخال sothat الناخبين بالكامل ل
    سياسات الأطراف قبل الإدلاء بأصواتهم .

    3 . ليس هناك و التغطية الإعلامية من 35 كهس رالي MS ماياواتي ل في RAMABHAI أمبيدكار على أي قناة التلفزيون عند انتخاب
    اللجنة يجب ضمان ” تكافؤ الفرص ل جميع المرشحين “.

    4 . وإنما هو ” سوء السلوك الإجمالي من المفوضية الأوروبية لتقييد رئيس حزب
    مع أكثر من 3.5 مليون من أتباعه . ” من الواضح كان يجب التمييز
    بين التجمع الوطني BSP الرئيس و الحملة و المرشحين في دوائرهم الخاصة .

    5 . و أكدت أدلة على سوء السلوك في حين أثار حزب بهاراتيا جاناتا براكاش
    Javdekar كادر قبل إلقاء اللوم ارفيند Kejriwal ل بطة عرجاء سردار ساروفار
    المشروع .

    6 . فمن الواضح أنه ‘ فضيحة الديمقراطية عندما الأطراف حملة من دون أي ذكر ل
    تنفيذ الدستور WHENELECTION اللجنة أن الإصرار على الأفكار السياسية كاملة
    من أيديولوجية الأحزاب المسجلة AT وقت التسجيل . ‘

    7 . وكان من المتوقع أن تشكل لجنة الانتخابات مقدما على قضاة المحكمة العليا
    بقيادة Pannels لرصد أكاذيب الأطراف و ضمان تصريف HONEST الأحزاب السياسية.

    فيما يلي بعض الشبح عبادة RSS ل حزب بهاراتيا جاناتا ” باهت Jyada بااب ‘
    ( معظم الخاطئ ) كرور روبية من قيمتها في المدفوع E- إعلانات و أخبار (
    المشاهدات ) في مختلف الوسائط الإلكترونية

    الصفحة الرئيسية |

    تايمز أوف إنديا

    الإعلانات من قبل Google
    دعم مودي كما PM المقبل لبناء الهند النابضة بالحياة تبرع ل حزب بهاراتيا جاناتا

    في الأوقات الاقتصادية

    شعار الحمض النووي

    عن جامعة نالاندا

    سوف الشبح عبادة RSS ، ق حزب بهاراتيا جاناتا ( Bahuth Jiyadha Paapis ) لا تقبل له لمنصب أعلى منذ تحية بلاده ليست تحية RSS . يجب أن تكون يده تحية قرب صدره لا قرب الجبهة. إنه مجرد الماعز سكيب sacrifical مثل Yediyurappa . يتم استخدامه كما انه يترك الكاري.
    مسح استطلاع LS : التجمع الوطني الديمقراطي للحصول على 227 مقعدا ضخم ؛ تسونغ أن تنخفض إلى 84

    اكسبرس المالية

    http://www.commentarymagazine ….


    التسول للحصول على 272 مقعدا لوك سابها لبحث قضايا محددة ولاية كارناتاكا والخراب في البلاد .

    نامو الكانادا الإعلان .

    نامو الهندية م .

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    • Steeloak

      Well, that explains everything! Thanks for clearing that up.

  • tic…tic…BOOM

    What foreign policy? There is none. The asylum is run by the inmates.

  • No RNC

    Apparantly Mr. Thornton you have been completely wrong about the fraud that is Western Foreign Policy & yet you seem too baffled to answer the question…why is such an eminent scholar so absolutely IGNORANT? More reading of non-gov source material such as Diana West’s “American Betrayal” would help…you did not believe what Horowitz & Radosh proffered about AB did you?

  • A Z

    The first thought that came to my mind, when I saw the picture was “The 3 Stooges”

    Is not Kerry a pathetic hapless looking person as he flies about the world accomplishing nothing?

    How pathetic and impotent does Hagel look when no one returns his calls?

    stooge (from Merriam-Webster)
    : a weak or unimportant person who is controlled by a powerful person, organization, etc.

    : a performer in a show who says and does foolish things that other performers make jokes about

    “Ukraine defense minister ignores repeated phone calls from Chuck Hagel”

    “Nobody Will Answer Chuck Hagel’s Phone Calls”

    “Reset Button II: Kerry Can’t Get Russia to Return His Phone Calls as North Korea Tests Nuke”

    • JDinSTL

      Mashed Potato Face is just so persuasive

  • Clare Spark

    I reject the notion of ethnic nationalism as the model for nation building. It was once the case that American exceptionalism provided an ethical universalism that provided a light to the nations. But all that changed with Wilson’s notion of self-determination based on race or ethnicity. See “Assimilation and citizenship in a democratic republic.” Or see Richard Epstein’s latest book, THE CLASSICAL LIBERAL CONSTITUTION. Or anything by Hayek, such as THE CONSTITUTION OF LIBERTY.

    • Wolfthatknowsall

      Wilson’s ethical universalism was employed freely by the boys in Berlin, back in the 1930’s, as they pursued one bloodless conquest after another – the Rhineland, Austria, the Sudetenland, and Danzig (though admittedly, Danzig didn’t go according to plan). These events were clearly motivated by ethnic nationalism – the creation of a greater German nation.

      I’ve mentioned it here, before, but I will say that my Comanche ancestors saw the proverbial “handwriting on the wall” and left the reservations, early in the 20th Century. They assimilated into the overall culture, and became Americans.

      In school, I was taught “pluralism”, rather than “multiculturalism”. I think that a good method of simplifying both terms, respectively, is “from many, one” and “from one, many”. There is not an American nation, today, although the underpinnings for this nation, coming from the Founders, are still available.

      • Drakken

        At the end of the day, multiculturalism, no matter the form, always leads to Balkanization.

        • Wolfthatknowsall

          Quite right, because each “tribal” religious group wants their own state, unanswerable to a larger whole.

    • Drakken

      Well ethnic nationalism is on the rise once again so it actually makes your point moot. One way or another we are tribal by nature and the diversity and multicultural garbage is about to meet reality head on.

  • JVictor

    Remember the song “Aquarius/Let the Sunshine In” from the late ’60’s? The 3 stooges in the picture at the top of this article spent their formative years inhaling the tripe about the impending so-called golden age of humanity–the Age of Aquarius. They refuse to let go of that new age mantra. They won’t allow the realities of human nature to over rule their dysfunctional ideals of utopia. Their hallucinogenic adherence to this humanistic mantra is leading to the deaths of thousands of people at the hands of 7th century-bound Islamic militants and 19th century-bound Communist dictators. Instead of carrying big sticks and speaking softly, they rant about fairy tales of fairness and justice which falls on the deaf ears of those who march to the beat of reality.

    • tagalog

      I have a slightly different take, although I like the musical metaphor. My view is that the people pictured above are living the lyrics of The Animals’ “We Gotta Get Out of This Place.”

      • RobertLein

        “Share The Land” — The Guess Who

  • zoomie

    being liberal means, ” never worrying what will happen if you’re wrong ” … ( because your professors told you you’re so smart )

    • Nabukuduriuzhur

      Even worse, a liberal BS’s when they are proven wrong and just keeps doing what they are doing in hopes it will somehow work. Einstein’s quip on insanity comes to mind.

    • slawea

      “Liberal” is defined in Isaiah 32:5-8. (quote not complete, look it up)
      Vs.5 “The vile person shall no longer called liberal…” (6) “For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise hypocrisy, and to utter error against the Lord, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail.” vs 8: “But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.”
      2600 years old. Is. 46:9-10 “…for I am God, and their is none other…declaring the end from the beginning…and My counsel shall stand…” (prophecy). There are no other gods in the creation that can do that. The ones given by Him came to pass w/ 100% accuracy, but 80% are still to unfold and ARE in your daily news. Last days/years people. Go to the source. “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand”. This is the Gospel we were sent to proclaim. God LOVES you so much, He tells us what’s coming and how to be ready. Good prayers to all. Start your journey. It’s really cool!!

  • tagalog

    Our international policy operates on the same assumption that drives national policy in command-system states, namely: we can achieve certain ideals (self-sacrifice for the larger group, mainly, together with the idea that the group is better than the individual) if we become better persons, therefore the job of government in the ultimate sense is to help us become new and better persons (in the former USSR, that person was called the New Soviet Man).

    The “new man” conception has been with us since before the French Revolution and remains the operating principle of the left. It is, of course, as history has revealed over and over again, a delusion with no real-world validity. The Russians know this, having lived on an intimate basis for nearly four generations with the New Soviet Man concept. Accordingly, Putin in particular is working at a significant advantage over the United States, as our leaders still follow the ideas of our intellectuals, who have been deluding themselves and our leaders for over century now about the New Man concept, while Putin is a practitioner of realpolitik .

  • Geoffrey_Britain

    Obama’s actions are;
    gutting the US military in virtually every area.
    ending the Pax Americana, which has ensured open international shipping lanes.
    basically given the Iranians a green light to pursue nukes.
    effectively blocked any military response to Iran by the Israelis.

    All of this in the face of;
    the coming nuclear proliferation in the M.E. once Iran gets nukes.
    an emboldened Russia
    an expansionist, heavily militarizing China

    Yet this is ascribed to a “delusional set of ideals” with little consideration to the possibility that Obama actions are far from unplanned. One has to ask, what could Obama have done, that he isn’t already doing, if he does bear malice toward America?

  • George of the Jungle

    If a foreign government with an actual military does something that the Affirmative Action Pustule on the Ass-End of the Body Politic doesn’t like, then he (Piss Be Upon Him) will direct his minions to wag their fingers and lecture the perpetrator to death. AAPAEBP himself will be safely ensconced behind a teleprompter, of course.
    Be Afraid, World, Be Very Afraid !!!!

  • RobertLein

    President Obama made a statement to the effect that It’s Obvious that the World Community is opposed to Russia’s intervention in the Ukraine. What a fantasy! He knows that Russia and China have veto power to stop any UN Resolution. China is on record as not being opposed to Vlad Putin’s aggression.

    So PBHO is the so-called “Leader of the Free World(tm)”. That doesn’t make him the Official Spokesman of the “World Community” Organizers!

  • Brian Mason

    The three frickin stooges. Barry, Chuckie and Johnny! The epitemy of incompetence. We are so screwed. May as well have Muslim clerics as chaplains for our armed forces; crap just did that too, un f-ing believable!

  • Brian Mason

    Not only are we screwed but so is our only military alliance in the ME. Israel, I am sorry my country has failed you; the curses of God will soon follow.

    • slawea

      Hey Brian! The curses AND judgments of God have been falling for a while now. But we know “hell on earth” is just giving us a taste of what’s coming. Peace, brother.

  • Nabukuduriuzhur

    Georgia is not quite the same as the other countries mentioned. They attacked Russian units and naively expected that pushing the issue like that on Ossetia and Abkhazia would bring the west into it.

    • Johnny

      If I go the story straight, Pres Bush encouraged Georgia to act the way they did. What a fool Bush was.

  • Nabukuduriuzhur

    I wrote this last year. Pardon the language:

    If the Democrats really want us to be the “Gendarme of the World”, then they have to do several things:

    1. The U.S. must be worthy of it morally. That means the Democrats
    must stop supporting immorality in the thousands of ways they support it
    with the law.

    2. The U.S. must rediscover morality. You can’t be a cop and expect
    to lay down the law on those with better morals than yourself.

    3. The UN must be ignored. The UN is one of the major forces for evil in the world today.

    4. The military must be increased to WWII levels with 15 to 20 million servicemen.

    5. The military must have political-correctness removed. The addition
    of women and gays to combat units has severely undermined our readiness
    for battle.

    6. When something doesn’t work in the military, you quit trying it.
    You go back to the WWII model of “get the job done” instead of the
    Korea/Vietnam/Bosnia/Afghanistan model of kowtowing to every s——-d
    with an evil agenda.

    7. When something does work in the military, you keep doing it.

    8. The Democrats must adopt a very careful decision process of attacking ONLY where it’s in the U.S. interest.

    9. When something wrong happens by the military or the Democrats, admit it frankly and prevent it from happening again.

    10. When someone makes a false complaint about actions of the military, you don’t act like it’s true.

    11. The Democrats must adopt personal discipline and goodness, rather
    than just assuming they can do evil and expect others to be better than

    12. The Democrats must adopt the Christian faith again. As has been
    shown, when non-Christians run a nation like ours, it’s one disaster
    after another.

    13. The Democrats must go to the old system of hiring and promotion
    based on merit. Having perhaps 3/4 of the civilian service incompetent
    is not sustainable in the long term. Without a competent government, any
    war is lost.

    14. The Democrats must stop bribing special interest groups with
    programs, and adopt a view of doing things in the benefit of American
    citizens as a whole.

    15. Decisions on military equipment based on how a given item or
    system or vehicle being manufactured will benefit a given
    congressman’s/senator’s district must end.

    16. Decisions must be forward-looking to probable outcomes.

    17. The opinions of other nations who care nothing for our well-being
    should be ignored when they conflict with our national interest.

    Only then will the military be able to do what the Democrats want it to do.”

    • Drakken

      Bravo! Well said!

  • Brian Mason

    Peace be unto you as well! I’m just glad we are on the winning side either way! The days is at hand!