Pope Francis’ Unfriendly Visit

popedfReprinted from The Jerusalem Post

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman were right when they blamed the noxious anti-Israel incitement rampant in Europe for Saturday’s murderous shooting attack at the Jewish Museum in Brussels and the assault and battery of two Jewish brothers outside their synagogue in a Paris suburb later that day.

Anti-Israel incitement is ubiquitous in Europe and is appearing in ever-widening circles of the Western world as a whole.

Until this week, the Catholic Church stayed out of the campaign to dehumanize Jews and malign the Jewish state.

Pope Benedict XVI was perceived as a friend of Israel, despite his childhood membership in the Hitler Youth. His opposition to Islam’s rejection of reason, eloquently expressed at his speech at the University of Regensburg in 2006, positioned him as a religious champion of reason, individual responsibility and law – Judaism’s primary contributions to humanity.

His predecessor Pope John Paul II was less willing to confront Islamic violence. But his opposition to Communism made him respect Israel as freedom’s outpost in the Middle East. John Paul’s visit to Israel in 2000 was in some ways an historic gesture of friendship to the Jewish people of Israel.

Both Benedict and John Paul II were outspoken champions of the Second Vatican Council and maintained doctrinal allegiance to the Church’s rejection of anti-Judaism, including the charge of deicide, and its denunciation of replacement theology.

Alas, the Golden Age of Catholic-Jewish relations seems to have come to an end during Francis’s visit to the Promised Land this week.

In one of his blander pronouncements during the papal visit, Netanyahu mentioned on Monday that Jesus spoke Hebrew. There was nothing incorrect about Netanyahu’s statement. Jesus was after all, an Israeli Jew.

But Francis couldn’t take the truth. So he indelicately interrupted his host, interjecting, “Aramaic.”

Netanyahu was probably flustered. True, at the time, educated Jews spoke and wrote in Aramaic. And Jesus was educated. But the language of the people was Hebrew. And Jesus preached to the people, in Hebrew.

Netanyahu responded, “He spoke Aramaic, but he knew Hebrew.”

Reuters’ write-up of the incident tried to explain away the pope’s rudeness and historical revisionism, asserting, “Modern-day discourse about Jesus is complicated and often political.” The report went on to delicately mention, “Palestinians sometimes describe Jesus as a Palestinian. Israelis object to that.”

Israelis “object to that” because it is a lie.

The Palestinians – and their Islamic and Western supporters – de-Judaize Jesus and proclaim him Palestinian in order to libel the Jews and criminalize the Jewish state. It seems like it would be the job of the Bishop of Rome to set the record straight. But instead, Francis’s discourtesy indicated that at a minimum, he doesn’t think the fact of Jesus’s Judaism should be mentioned in polite company.

Francis’s behavior during his public meeting with Netanyahu could have been brushed off as much ado about nothing if it hadn’t occurred the day after his symbolic embrace of some of the worst anti-Jewish calumnies of our times, and his seeming adoption of replacement theology during his homily in Bethlehem.

Consider first Francis’s behavior at the security barrier.

Reasonable people disagree about the contribution the security fence makes to the security of Israelis. But no one can reasonably doubt that it was built to protect Israelis from Palestinian terrorist murderers. And Francis ought to know this. Francis’s decision to hold a photo-op at the security barrier was an act of extreme hostility against Israel and the Jewish people.

As the former Cardinal of Buenos Aires, Francis may have heard of the November 2002 massacre at Kibbutz Metzer. Metzer was founded by Argentine communists in the 1950s. Metzer is located 500 meters from the 1949 armistice lines which made it an obvious beneficiary of the security fence. But true to its radical roots, in 2002 members of the kibbutz waged a public campaign against the planned route of the security fence. They feared that it would, in the words of Metzer member Danny Dovrat, “ignite hostility and create problems” with the kibbutz’s Palestinian neighbors.

Thanks to that concern, on the night of November 10, 2002, a gunman from the “moderate” US- and EU-supported Fatah terror organization faced no physical obstacle when he entered the kibbutz. Once there he killed two people on the street and then entered the home of Revital Ohayon and executed Revital and her two sons, Matan, 5, and Noam, 4 years old.

Fatah praised the attack on its website and pledged to conduct more assaults on “Zionist colonizers,” and promised to continue “targeting their children as well.”

Had he actually cared about the cause of peace and non-violence he claims to champion, Francis might have averred from stopping at the barrier, recognizing that doing so would defile the memory of the Ohayons and of hundreds of other Israeli Jewish families who were destroyed by Palestinian bloodlust and anti-Semitic depravity.

Instead, Francis “spontaneously” got out of his popemobile, walked over to a section of the barrier, and reverentially touched it and kissed it as if it were the Wailing Wall.

The graffiti on the section of the barrier Francis stopped at reinforced his anti-Semitic position. One of the slogans called for the embrace of the BDS campaign.

Although the economic consequences of the campaign of economic warfare against Israel in the West have been negligible, BDS’s goal is not economic. The goal of the movement is to dehumanize Israelis and set apart for social ostracism anyone who refuses to embrace the anti-Jewish slanders that Jews have no right to self-determination and are morally inferior to every other religious, ethnic and national group in the world.

And that is nothing compared to the other slogan on the barrier. That one equated the Palestinians in Bethlehem to the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto. In other words, it denied the Holocaust.

By standing there, kissing the barrier with its Holocaust denying slogan, Francis gave Vatican license to Holocaust denial.

And that was just the beginning.

Pope Francis met with Fatah chief Mahmoud Abbas at his presidential palace in Bethlehem. When Israel transferred control over Jesus’s birthplace to Abbas’s predecessor Yasser Arafat in 1996, Arafat seized the Greek Orthodox monastery next to the Church of the Nativity and turned it into his – and later Abbas’s – official residence.

Standing next to Abbas on seized church property, the pope called Abbas “a man of peace.”

Abbas returned the favor by calling for Israel to release all Palestinian terrorists from Israeli prisons. And the pope – who interrupted Netanyahu when he told an historic truth – said nothing.

At mass at the Church of the Nativity on Sunday, Pope Francis prayed with Latin Patriarch Fuoad Twal. In his sermon Twal accused Israelis of being the present-day version of Christ killers by referring to the Palestinians as walking “in the footsteps of the Divine Child,” and likening the Israelis to King Herod.

In his words, “We are not yet done with the present-day Herods, who fear peace more than war… and who are prepared to continue killing.”

Rather than condemn these remarks, Francis echoed them.

“Who are we, as we stand before the Child Jesus? Who are we, standing as we before today’s children?” the pope asked.

“Are we like Mary and Joseph, who welcomed Jesus and cared for him with the love of a father and mother? Or are we like Herod, who wanted to eliminate him?” During his visit Monday to Jerusalem, Francis embraced the Palestinian mufti of Jerusalem, Sheikh Muhammed Hussein. Departing from his scripted remarks which called for the pope to refer to the mufti and his associates as “dear friends,” Francis called them his “dear brothers.”

Hussein has been condemned by the US and the EU for his calls for the annihilation of Jews in the name of Islam.

In 2012, Hussein said it was the destiny of Muslims to kill Jews, who he claims are subhuman beasts and “the enemies of Allah.” He has also praised suicide bombers and said their souls “tell us to follow in their path.”

Francis didn’t condemn him.

Francis stridently condemned the anti-Jewish attacks in Brussels and Paris. And during his ceremonial visits to Yad Vashem, the Wailing Wall and the terror victims memorial he said similarly appropriate things. But all of his statements ring hollow and false in light of his actions.

Israelis and Jews around the world need to be aware of what is happening. Francis is leading the Catholic Church in a distressingly anti-Jewish direction.

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  • Stanko

    Malachy was right. This is the last pope.

    • FormerlyLib

      The prophecies of Malachy are most likely quite bogus and were found hundreds of years after his death. So do not think this is the last pope.

      He’s not “Petrus Romanus”, Ha Ha.

  • Steeloak

    Francis is just being true to his roots in Liberation Theology – that Latin American born unholy blend of Catholicism and Marxism.

    • Joe The Gentile

      You hit the nail on the head my friend. The Ghost of Karl Marx came out looking for things to haunt, and the Catholic Church in South America was one of the many, many things that got badly haunted….. and Pope Francis is a clueless product, just as tens of thousands of university professors throughout the world are clueless products.

    • appalachian

      Bigotry is not a winning argument. The Pope active opposed Liberation Theology in South America!

      • FormerlyLib

        Yes. Someone who knows the truth!

        JPII and the church condemned Liberation Theology in the 1980s and JPII pulled Bergoglio from a remote teaching assignment in northern Argentina because he know of his efforts to get Liberation Theology out of the Jesuits. JPII got him down to Buenos Aires to be the new coadjutor bishop and in line to be the next Archbishop of Buenos Aires. JPII wanted someone who he knew strongly opposed Liberation Theology.

        People just say: Well Liberation Theology had it roots in SA and Central America among the Jesuits. So the pope must be “steeped in it”. Idiots.

        • Steeloak

          While Francis did oppose the Liberation Theologists who advocated for armed revolutionary struggle, he is basically sympathetic to the rest of it and has practiced it for many years. His actions and language clearly demonstrate this.

          • Joe The Gentile

            Exactly. Pope Francis’ opposition to the armed-struggle types should not be construed as his being free of the strong influence of Marxism–just like American university professors.

      • Steeloak

        You are only partially right – see my comments below.

      • Anamah

        Yes; but I we can see now… that was not real.
        I believed in his honesty.
        I feel sick!

    • Thomas J. Hennigan

      This is false, as he was clearly opposed to Liberation Theology. Check out the record and his own statements

    • Anamah

      On that I was also wrong…

  • patrickhamilton

    “Anti-Israel incitement is ubiquitous in Europe and is appearing in ever-widening circles of the Western world as a whole.”

    This must not go unchallenged. It is simply not true. Frankly, the Jews do not help their cause when they make a mountain out of every perceived molehill. There IS a rising MUSLIM anti-semitism in Europe to be sure but here in the UK, for example, I see very little anti-Israel incitement or even sentiments. Also how is the reference to the Warsaw ghetto denying the holocaust ? It is doing no such thing. Those who wrote the graffiti may, in actual fact, deny the holocaust but that is not referenced, explicitly or otherwise, in the graffiti.

    As for the pope, well, he is the enemy of Christ. He has shown by several of his statements and his assumed role which is completely against the teachings of Jesus who said, “Call no man your father upon earth”, that he is not a Christian.

    • TheOrdinaryMan

      Do you read the Guardian? Do you hear Piers Morgan? And various other pundits on the air in Britain, France, and Germany? Why is it that Jewish emigration from Britain and France has quadrupled? And if these host countries gave no support to anti-Semitism, there wouldn’t be such emigration. In case you don’t remember, the Jews of the Warsaw ghetto were exterminated by the Nazis, which Pope Francis equated to Israeli treatment of the Palestinians. This is an outrageous lie, and equivalent to Holocaust denial. And almost as strong as your denial. Open your eyes…and get off it.

      • patrickhamilton

        Piers Morgan ? The Guardian ? Are you kidding me ? I think Piers Morgan is a leftist clown. I despise the similarly leftist Guardian. Look, the fact is that there are huge numbers of anti-Semitic Muslims in the UK and France. I just noticed graffiti here in my native city yesterday calling for an end to “Israeli apartheid”. The white indigenous Brits are smeared with such a broad sweep of the brush as Glick uses. The British government seems to have a policy of appeasing Muslims, even to the point of giving them preferential treatment. This policy, as well as others, is marginalizing Christians too. If Jews felt it necessary to leave the UK, well, fine, but where exactly are they going to go when virtually every country is being invaded by hordes of Muslims ?

        Your point on the Warsaw ghetto doesn’t make sense. It is not implying the denial of the holocaust. Explain clearly and intelligently how Glick’s equivalence statement means denial of the holocaust.

        • TheOrdinaryMan

          I explained it “clearly and intelligently” above; however, since you still pretend not to understand why Jews “felt it necessary” to leave the UK, try this on for size. Keep in mind that I don’t read Arabic, so I don’t know the exact quote Caroline Glick refers to. Pope Francis equated the WWII Nazi treatment of Warsaw’s Jews–herding them into a ghetto, starving them, transporting them to Auschwitz, and finally sending in SS stormtroopers to kill those who remained; with Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians. However, Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians has been very humane–providing jobs for them, allowing Israeli Palestinians to purchase homes, and settle wherever they wish, providing good medical care, etc. Thus to equate Israel’s treatment of Palestinians with the Nazi treatment of Warsaw’s Jews is to deny the reality of Israel’s humane behavior; and to deny the historical causation between European anti-Semitism and Nazi anti-Semitism, and the push that these dark forces gave to the founding of Israel. Zionism, which created the state of Israel, was a reaction to hundreds of years of European anti-Semitism, and later on, partly a reaction to Nazi barbarism. Thus, if Israel treats the Palestinians like the Nazis treated Warsaw’s Jews, then the Holocaust was a good thing. If it was a good thing, then who cares about it? And it’s like it never happened. But again, I don’t read Arabic, so I don’t know what the comment says, that Caroline Glick refers to. Now, you clearly and intelligently explain George Galloway’s anti-Semitism. He’s one of those “indigenous Brits” that you say Caroline Glick”paints with a broad brush.”

        • TheOrdinaryMan

          When you “clearly and intelligently” explain why you’re pretending that you don’t understand why “Jews felt it necessary to leave the UK,”(and why Jewish emigration from France has quadrupled), and when you clearly and intelligently explain George Galloway’s anti-Semitism, (Galloway is a “white indigenous Brit” that you say Caroline Glick “smears with a broad sweep of the brush”)I’ll clearly and intelligently explain Caroline Glick’s reference to Holocaust denial. But keep in mind, I don’t read Arabic, do I don’t know what that comment says, exactly.

          • patrickhamilton

            Well, if you cannot see that I clearly, and intelligently, explained why I believe Jews may be leaving the UK, then you need help with comprehension skills. You think that the white indigenous Brits get married THREE times to Muslim women, that we think Fidel Castro is the greatest thing since sliced bread, support Hamas, and would have no problem shaking hands with Sinn Fein’s leader Gerry Adams, Britain’s most bitter enemy. Oh, and don’t forget the public praising of Saddam to his face. You obviously know us Brits very well (sarc on turbo charge). A nice evasive response too, answering a question with a question. You don’t read Arabic ? Neither do I. Perhaps Caroline might deign to enlighten us but it appears that she thought she had no need to translate since we would understand the nuance

          • TheOrdinaryMan

            That’s right…get personal. You can’t refute my argument–you’ve ignored most of what I said. No–explain George Galloway’s anti-Semitism. Explain the regular anti-Semitic editorials and articles in the Guardian, before you deny that there’s a strong streak of anti-Semitism in “indigenous white Brits.” History is on my side, in this case. You’ve obviously forgotten that there were no Jews in England, from 1290 to 1655, because Edward I, “Longshanks” kicked them out, and no one cared to let them return, until Oliver Cromwell negotiated a deal with the chief Rabbi of Amsterdam in 1654. Cromwell didn’t like us Jews either, but being a practical fellow, he realized that Jewish commercial skills would benefit England. So, along with the British government support of Muslims, “indigenous Brits” who share Longshanks’ sympathies are making things very uncomfortable for England’s Jews. And you ignored what I said about French anti-Semitism, too. You know what? You’re a cop-out. When you get down off your high horse, and suffer yourself to mix with us mere mortals, do let me know.

          • patrickhamilton

            I suspect you are a troll ‘cos you are utterly evasive and illogical. Have a nice day !

    • wildjew

      Don’t you think comparing the lot of Palestinians in Bethlehem to the horrors of the Warsaw ghetto is obscene? Shouldn’t the pope have said as much. In his speech, the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem in the pope’s presence said (parenthesis are mine):

      “….In the footsteps of the Divine Child (Jesus), our (Palestinian) young people have experienced migration, hunger, cold, and also often, the demolition of their homes.

      “Together with you Most Holy Father, today we beg the child Jesus, to expand His grotto to welcome and accommodate the many children who are victims of violence and injustice (at the hands of the Jews). How can we forget to pray for the many (Palestinian murderous) prisoners in overcrowded prisons…

      “They hunger for a piece of bread, yearn for justice and peace, destitute for a welcoming home. We are not yet done with the present-day (Israeli / Jewish) Herods, who fear peace more than war, who dread the prosperity of families and who are prepared to continue killing.

      • patrickhamilton

        Well, if Israel continues to negotiate with the papacy that’s the thanks you’ll get. When are the Jews going to learn that the papacy is not their friend ?

        • wildjew

          On that we agree.

        • joba

          well, if that’s your final response to your initial outrage then what is one to think? That you didn’t understand Daniel’s meaning? and analogies? The mountain is indeed a mountain after all…people, and the pope is no exception, reveal their true natures by simple actions…the wall is not a cell for the Palestinians…it is a barrier to their blood lust….and some simple protection of a beleaguered people surrounded by 360 million crazy people…who kill wherever they live…

      • ✞Servant✞

        It’s creepy how Roman Catholics look upon the Lord God & Savior, as a child.

        • wildjew

          Interesting observation and a good one Not only that but they look to Jesus’ mother as a intercessor and a savior of sorts. You probably know, Jews look to God (YHWH) as our savior; not even messiah is our savior – he is God’s instrument of salvation. We believe God and messiah are separate beings. Messiah in no way approaches the Almighty in power and majesty, just as Moses didn’t approach God in power and majesty or David who messiah is compared to.

    • joba

      Brussels had murders and a 500 man protest against Jews…and the lesbian associate prosecutor refused to call the murders a hate crime

  • Jakareh

    Pope Francis did visit the Holocaust Memorial, which was almost mandatory, and Theodor Herzl’s tomb, which wasn’t. In his mind, his visit struck a balance. However, one should not seek a balance in a struggle between good and evil. Islam—along with all its territorial claims, all its doctrines, all its demands, and all its true believers—is evil. Pope Francis does not understand the true nature of Islam.

    • wildjew

      Or maybe he does understand the true Jew-hating nature of Islam.

      • Jakareh

        “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
        —Robert J. Hanlon

        While I don’t think Pope Francis is stupid, he does appear to be ignorant about Islam, as most Westerners are. Despite having Armenian ancestry, I used to be. I saw the genocide committed by the Turks as a unique phenomenon unrelated to Islam.

        • wildjew

          There is an interesting verse or two in the book of Ecclesiastes:

          “Guard your steps as you go to the house of God and draw near to listen rather than to offer the sacrifice of fools; for they do not know they are doing evil….

          Do not let your speech cause you to sin and do not say in the presence of the messenger of God that it was a mistake. Why should God be angry on account of your voice and destroy the work of your hands? (Ecc chapter 5)

          • Jakareh

            I agree that Pope Francis erred. His visit to the Security Barrier was an embarrassment, and Fouad Twal’s sermon was a disgrace. As for landowners complaining about the Security Barrier, every country in the world takes land for roads, schools, stadiums, dams, and whatnot. The difference is that the Security Barrier is more necessary than any of those.

        • Suzannes

          I think that being completely ignorant about Islam was extremely common here in the states – if that is where you were born. I’m a baby boomer and our “Western Civ” books only mentioned Islam a few times – usually in connection with Charles Martel or the Crusades or WW1. We, honestly, didn’t dwell on it. For us, the Islamic world – was somewhere “over there” and had little to do with western life or history. Since 9/11, and the proliferation of so many exposes on the horrors of Islam, however, I don’t think anyone can have an excuse anymore. But I think that a real problem is that Americans have been conditioned to think that all religions are “good”. When you add a billion adherents into it – they are really stumped. How could anything that’s a religion and so widespread be “bad”? Isn’t Islam one of the world’s “great” religions. Isn’t the Muslim civilations one of the world’s great civilizations? So, Americans have to be “de-programed” to understand that a religion can be a REAL evil thing. G_d knows, the Jews are less innocent than others as they’ve been on the receiving end of other religions’ insanity for centuries now. I once heard a rabbi say that the commandment that “thou shall not take the Lord, thy G_d’s name in vain”, is very commonly misunderstood by non Jews. He said that people commonly think that it means that you can’t say a swear word and attach it to G_d’s name. While that, of course, is a vile thing to do – that’s not what the commandment REALLY means – this rabbi said. What it REALLY means is that you shall not attribute to G_d, ideas and practices that are not his. Islam with all it’s violence and craziness etc. is certainly not “G_d like” in any way shape or form. So, listening to this rabbi, maybe helped me to understand that irregardless of the prevalence or the numbers – there are ideologies out there that are just plain evil and that truly take G_d’s name in vain.

          • republicc

            Starting with Mohammed, Islam’s main foe was Paganism. Over the centuries Paganism won, by embedding itself into Islam.

          • Jakareh

            The Arabian paganism Muhammad defeated was much more tolerant and peaceful than Islam, and I actually don’t think there is much of it in the religion he created. He did borrow liberally from Christianity and Judaism, distorting their teachings as he went, e.g. by claiming Jesus and all the Old Testaments prophets were actually Muslims.

          • republicc

            God is against paganism because “they burn their children”. Islam today destroys their children. They have been taken over by the Pagans.

          • Drakken

            No not taken over from the pagans, pure unadultered evil devil worshipers, that is islam.

          • TruthWFree

            Sounds like you are a good student on this evil, but i think you give this Pope to much leniency in his ignorance of Islamic evil.

          • Jakareh

            That’s a very interesting point the rabbi made. Islam amounts to a hijacking of God.

          • Drakken

            Islam is the worship of the devil himself, as to the Armenian Genocide, it was because they were both Turks and muslim that make the slaughter possible, ask anyone living in the Balkans what they think of islam and the turks.

          • lapin.grove

            Don’t ask the Bosnians…’cause they LOVE all the money they are getting from the Saudis to become just like them…FANATICS!

          • Drakken

            Don’t worry, ole Putin is throwing money and advisors into the fray for another go round.

          • TruthWFree

            And who better than Satan to attempt that? I believe that Islam was revealed to Muhammad by Satan. Because it has lasted so long, I believe it had to be supernatural. The Quran contradicts Jesus claim to be the Son of God, just a prophet, and that He did not die on the cross. Islam allows lying and just about anything to further the religion/cult. The teachings are 180 degrees opposite Jesus’ teachings of love and forgiveness. Jesus said that Satan is the father of all lies (John’s Gospel). I conclude the allah god of Islam is Satan. One final thought; Muhammad could not claim to be the final prophet if he followed the Son of God, could he?

          • Jakareh

            You are likely right.

          • TruthWFree

            I was ignorant of Islam at 9/11. I started reading and now I consider myself a very informed student reading the Quran and Robert Spencer, Serge Trifkovic, Walid Shoebat, Brigitte Gabriel, Wafa Sultan, Ayaan Hirshi Ali, Bat Yeor, Nonnie Darwish, and others plus I am an ACT for America chapter leader. For me, to have an ignorant man on Islam as Pope is inconceivable. Wilh all the Islamic killings going on world wide, for him to not have some curiousity and began studying or have someone who knows Islam inform him is beyond my comprehension. Of course, you don’t want a Muslim educating you on Islam because they are sanctioned in Islam to lie to an infidel (taqiyya and kitman). Even Mark Gabriel, “Jesus and Muhammad”, began to question the Islamic doctrine only after being an imam at Egypt’s Al Azhar University and got into big trouble for doing so. His father tried to kill him…interesting read…also his testimony on the internet. Yes, we beat ourselves for the Crusades, but they kept the western world from becoming Islamic…also Charles Martel 732 AD outside of Tours France. No doubt we are facing a demonic evil in Islam.

        • JVictor

          One must be willfully ignorant to call Abbas “a man of peace.” The Pope cannot be given a pass based upon “ignorance.” He cannot afford to be ignorant because his position and words carry way too much weight.

        • Thomas J. Hennigan

          I think he would do well to read up a little about some of what his predecessors did to oppose Islam. St. Pius V, was Pope at the time of the Battle of Lepando in 1571 and he had ships involved in it, besides praying for a Christian victory. In 1683 Pope Innocent XI made tremendous diplomatic efforts to get together a Christian army to save Vienna from the siege by the huge Ottoman army, which did happen thanks to the resounding defeat of the Turks by the Christians, with the heroic invervention of the John Sobieski, King of Poland, and his army. They did understand what was at stake. Pope Francis is obviously naive about the dangers of Jihad. These days Europeans seem to prever to enslave themselves under Islamic sharia.

          • TruthWFree

            I did know those were Christian battles against the Muslim invaders, but did not know the Popes were involved. I do know Pope Leo called for the First Crusade in 1096 AD. Have you got a source on the Lepanto and Vienna battles relative to Papal intervention?

        • TruthWFree

          Why do you say that about the Armenian genocide? Would they have been unmercifully slaughtered thus if they were Muslims? Don’t think so.

          • Jakareh

            That’s the way I used to see it. Now I understand the Armenians were killed as rebellious dhimmi.

    • appalachian

      The Pope doesn’t take sides because, as Jesus teached, we are to love one another.

      Partisans have difficulty with the concept of “love your neighbor”!

      • Jakareh

        There is such a thing as evil, and in my opinion Islam is its main manifestation in the world. The only way to love Muslims is to help them not be Muslims anymore.

        • TruthWFree

          You are right on. I pray for the Muslims every day to leave their evil religion and come to Christ….and i go to websites and try to show Muslims (who are good people and have the love of God in their hearts,,,not all) why they must get out. Death for apostasy is a pretty good reason to stay in Islam but LOSS of one’s eternal soul is more compelling as far as I am concerned.

      • Judahlevi

        You need to study your history.

        Popes did indeed take sides. They are human after all.

        And insulting “partisans” does not help your cause.

        • patrickhamilton

          The French Resistance were called partisans but some of them suffered torture or even death for the love they had for France and the cause of freedom from fascism. He is indeed insulting partisans with such a sweeping statement.

      • patrickhamilton

        Yes indeed, Jesus taught us to love one another but he also taught us to judge righteous judgement. Jesus was extremely critical of the pharisees. This nonsense about not taking sides is not the same as loving one another. One should be “partisan” when one sees an oppressor persecuting someone, as we are seeing with Muslims persecuting Christians in virtually all Muslim countries. Your hypocritical attempt at kumbiyah is just a way of obfuscating the pope’s guilt.

    • Suzanne

      I think that is very well said. The only thing that I would maybe disagree with is your last sentence. I’m afraid that Pope Francis DOES understand the true nature of Islam but is so married to his (probably life long) leftism that’s it would be almost like asking a tiger to change it’s stripes to get him to admit it (i.e., Islam’s treachery). In the end, like so many other leftists, when they finally “glimpse the truth” as George Harrison so famously said, it’s just too painful for them to face – i.e., a life time of wrong headedness that often caused the pain of others.

      • Jakareh

        I wouldn’t think he has a thorough awareness of what Islam is. He’s from Argentina, where there are blessedly few Muslims, so Islam and the possibility that it may become dominant in a few short decades is not a topic that arose often in his life. It does for Europeans, of course, and most of them cope by telling themselves Islam is entirely benign. Those are the people who are influencing Francis.

        • TruthWFree

          It’s hard to believe this man is ignorant of Islam…but so was John Paul II (hopefully…kissed the Quran)…and G W Bush (religion of peace BS)…but not Benedict. Even Benedict backed off over the quotation (12th century?) he stated about Islam bringing nothing new, only violence and hatred. The Church of the Crusades knew Islam…just not sure they were following Jesus teachings in leading that effort. Google Don Pelayo and the Reconquest of Spain for an interesting miraculous read concerning driving the Muslim from Spain.

          • Jakareh

            Cardinal Peter Turkson is a good man (which is ironic with that name). I’d be lying if I said I didn’t wish he’d been elected pope. I’m aware of Pelayo and I made sure to visit Covadonga when I was in Spain.

    • Conniption Fitz

      The Roman Catholic Church has a doctrine in their Catechism (CCC#841) that gives way too much dignity, validity and credibility to Islam and like the UN, ignores Islam’s true nature. Pope Francis has been way too affirming of Islam and homosexuality and probably will also affirm the ‘Climate Change’ mythology in some form or fashion.
      The three greatest myths/lies of our age are that Islam and homo/bi/etc (pansexuality) are good and that Climate Change is real.

      • Jakareh

        I would add a fourth myth, that of the moral necessity of economic equality. To paraphrase Mark Levin, the only way for all of us to be equal is when we’re all on the same rice paddy wearing the same cone-shaped hat.

        • TruthWFree

          And even then, some bully might rise up to take the rice from the others. :) Good quote…funny but profound. Sure would like to see Obama in a rice paddy in a cone shaped hat. :)

    • TruthWFree

      Ever have the thought that he does understand?…which is a far worse condition….in his position, he SHOULD understand…but then, John Paul II kissed the Quran, Satan’s revelation; or so I’ve read.

      • Jakareh

        I can’t read his mind, but being expert on Christianity doesn’t automatically confer on him any expertise regarding Islam, so it may very well be that he’s unaware of the contents of the Quran and the true nature of Mohammedanism. John Paul II did kiss the unholy book and I consider that an act of apostasy. If he was saved, it was only thanks to God’s mercy.

        • TruthWFree

          Just went back to Matthew 10:16….”I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Be clever as snakes and innocent as doves.” If he has a plan in all this to bring the Gospel to the Muslims, I am having a hard time seeing it…appears to be the opposite…embracing Islam as legitimate.
          I was pretty much a blank sheet on Islam at 9/11. After that I started reading everything I could on Islam including the Quran…have not read the Hadiths but have read some of them. One would think that the head of the Church would become knowledgeable on Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism since his charge from Christ is to preach the Gospel to all nations, and especially on Is since Islam’s followers have been fighting, killing and subduing Christ’s followers for 1400 years.

          • Jakareh

            To be honest, I didn’t realize you were Catholic until this post. As a Catholic, I’m sure you understand that for many of our present-day brethren, the only virtue is “charity”. Of course, their definition of charity neatly coincides with political correctness. Are you familiar with a guy named Michael Voris? I don’t agree with him on everything, but I find him well worth listening to. He calls the wing of the Church that actually likes the Pope kissing the Koran the “Church of Nice” as opposed to the Church of Christ.

          • TruthWFree

            No. Just looked him up. Appears to be a rebel (actually someone who questions the status quo…like me. :) Yes, i was an altar boy and memorized latin and never was molested by a priest and went to Catholic school the first eight years. Continued to go to church, my parents never missed Mas. My great grand father (immigrated from present day Czechoslovakia in 1876 north of Vienna Austria) donated some of the land for St. John the Baptist Catholic Church in Ammansville, Texas north of Schulenberg, so my Catholicism goes way back. In about 1999, my daughter gave me a book written by Wayne Weible about the apparitions at Medjugorje, “The Message”, and it really affected me. Still do not know if that apparition is real but I started reading the Gospels and all the way through Revelations like a good book. I’ve repeated that some ten times since then plus read the entire Bible twice. It is amazing to me with all the internal corruption and outside forces, the Church still stands, As

  • JVictor

    Francis has just emblazoned his name on the long list of anti-Semitic Popes who are responsible for the Holocaust-like treatment of the Jews for centuries. Like his predecessors, he ignores the fact that the Apostle Paul taught that the gentile branches are grafted into the root of Israel through Jesus of Nazareth. Without Jesus, there is no redemption. Without Israel, there is no Jesus.

    • appalachian

      J, If you have to hate someone, it might as well be Francis. He can take it!

      • JVictor

        It has nothing to do with hate, appy. Check the historical record and you’ll see that I’m correct. Francis provided kindling and spark to the dry timber of antisemitism around the world as a result of this visit. Watch the real haters say, “The Pope said it was ok,” as an excuse for committing crimes against the Jews.

        • patrick

          What a load of garbage. You should be ashamed of yourself.

          • JVictor

            Not at all. In fact, you are the one who ought to be ashamed of yourself for your ignorance of history.

    • James Blazsik

      You are ignorant of Catholic history. Name one anti-Semitic Pope – there aren’t any.

      • JVictor

        I would simply reply to you to read “The Popes Against the Jews: The Vatican’s Role in the Rise of Modern Anti-Semitism” by David Kertzer and/or ask the question of your favorite search engine. You, sir, are the one who is ignorant of Catholic history.

        • James Blazsik

          Instead of recommending a book, please, just name name one anti – Semitic Pope.

          I could also recommend a book by a Jewish rabbi – The Myth of Hitler’s Pope : how Pope Pius XII rescued Jews from the Nazis / David G. Dalin.

  • Jen

    If we go visit a concentration camp, does it mean that we are supporting the Nazis or rather paying respect the the indignities that have occurred there. The pope didn’t stop out of hatred and malice. We have been so trained to hate all and love none that we can’t recognize authenticity when we see it. Disgusting.

    • joba

      love? they have sworn to destroy Israel…they do not even recognize their existence and you speak for them through the pope who is surrounded and counseled by religion hating gays and pedophiles? Any true person of G-d cannot accept this pope or the people around him who committed such acts in the name of G-d…this was not a trip of peace but a trip spawned by religion hating gays intent on mischief against the people of the book

    • appalachian

      Glad to see one reader who understands what really happened in the Pope’s visit.

      This column of bigotry and distortion and comments based on ignorance will not enlighten anyone. All we can do is pray for them.

      • Judahlevi

        One man’s sinner is another man’s saint.
        Do what you will.

    • reader

      If you read the article and you disagree with either a premise or a conclusion, you’re expected to challenge the facts supporing either. Your bloviating about hate, love and authenticity has gotten old together with the load of hippies drugged out of their mind like 40 years ago.

  • joba

    that’s because the church is a nest of Jew hating homosexuals….

    • patrick

      Keep it classy joba. How would you like it if I said Israel is a nest of people who steal land and money?

  • Okeydoker

    Man this author has some serious mental health issues interpreting the popes visit as an anti Jew trip. Get a grip, you’ve lost all credibility with those of us with an open mind.

    • mozart1216

      You’d better research Ms. Glick’s credentials, she is a shining light of high IQ, impeccable morals and the sound judgement of a captain in the IDF. I’d question your metal state much sooner…

      • Okeydoker

        Well now your astute argument has really convinced me that Glick is right. The pope visited Israel as part of an antisemetic plot because in reality he hates Jews. happy?

        • Judahlevi

          Yes, and your argument was so cogent.

          Don’t distort her argument, and if you do, at least spell it correctly.

          • Okeydoker

            Alienating people who would otherwise probably be your supporters is likely counterproductive. Or as my mother used to say you can draw more flies with honey than vinegar.

        • mozart1216

          No need to convince you. You are already filled with schmutz. My point was that you are WRONG!

      • Okeydoker

        I’ve been so enthralled with all the intelligent comments here that I actually read Ms. Glick’s wiki bio. She is quoted as making a statement “we are not trying to be fair and balanced we are trying to make a point here”. That my fellow readers is pretty much the definition of propaganda.

        So that’s it for me. I’ve learned all I need to know about Caroline Glick. And what I’ve learned pretty much matches the paranoid interpretations that she writes about the pope’s visit. Bye-bye.

        • mozart1216

          One cannot argue with stupidity. No intelligent contact is possible. To diss a person despite her stellar credentials IS one of the 3 “D’s” of antisemitism as defined by Nathan Sharansky. You cannot hold a candle to either Ms. G nor Mr. S

          • Okeydoker

            I don’t question that ms Glick is an accomplished woman. It is not her credentials that I disrespect. It is her interpretations of the Popes visit which she has chosen to interpret as being anti-Semitic when in fact there is absolutely no evidence at all that the pope intended the interpretations that she so passionately writes about.

            To suggest that I am anti-Semitic because I disagree with her opinions is beyond absurd. You obviously are not a critical thinker.

          • mozart1216

            Decades of learning, decades of experience and dozens of honors suggest otherwise. I draw the sense that you are antisemitic, perhaps in a more subtle way, from your own words. You chose to ignore clear and demonstrable papal acts and his words. To do nothing in the face of evil is also evil, but to excuse even the subtle signs of antisemitism make you into a certifiable practitioner. We are not blind to what we feel in our bones, now and for the last two thousand years. No “interpretation” is needed when the Pope obscures that Jesus (btw – that was not his name – it was Joshua) spoke Hebrew or that he was an Israeli Jew. No doubt is cast when the Pope calls Abbas the terrorist “a man of peace” or when he stops to pray at the anti-Arab-terrorist-barrier. Your willful blindness to the barbaric behavior of Arabs who support terror against Jews by large percentages, who lie about us, deny our history and our sacred connection to our own land strengthens the case that you are in fact a hater of my people. Why else are you even commenting on this site, if not to provoke? Imach shimecha.

          • Okeydoker

            I am just not as sensitive to the slights and hidden meanings that you attribute to the pope Francis. Now in the past the Catholic Church clearly has believed Jews were responsible for Christ’s death and held in disrepute as a result. This is a fact.

            With respect to the Arabs it is obvious they have no use for Israel which belief is clearly absurd. The biggest threat to world peace in my view is Islam, the religion who believes all non believers must die.

            The Jews are Gods chosen people and all of us support the Israelites but they would make things a little easier if they just chilled out a little on the anti Semitic stuff merely because someone disagrees with them. There really are notions that are nonsensical and people should not be afraid to debate such.

            Now

          • Ha Meshuga

            “The Jews are Gods chosen people and all of us support the Israelites but
            they would make things a little easier if they just chilled out a
            little on the anti Semitic stuff merely because someone disagrees with
            them.”

            I think that should sit down and have a long think about that statement of yours. If after some time you still see nothing wrong with it, then indeed you are a Jew hater.

            1000′s years of jew hatred, expulsions, libels, threats of genocides and actual genocide but you think that Jews should chill out a little on the anti semitic stuff. In my parents lifetime they have seen millions of jews being murdered and expelled from their homes, yet you think jews should chill out.

            Let me ask you a question. If your mum and dad and grand parents and sister had been raped and murdered by somebody, would you be chilled about it?

          • Joe The Gentile

            Francis’ pedantic correction to the claim that Jesus spoke Hebrew, is possibly false, possibly technically true, but undoubtedly harebrained and diplomatically stupid in the extreme, if not rooted in sentiments hostile to the Jewish state. The praying at the security barrier I am more open to. Could it not be like Reagan making a ceremonial visit to the Berlin Wall? Am I giving him too much credit?

          • Ha Meshuga

            Joe take a look at this link, if you havent already, please….

            http://www.israellycool.com/2014/05/25/media-fall-for-cheap-palestinian-pope-photo-op/

          • mozart1216

            Simple ignorance, Papal and otherwise. 2000 years ago Hebrew was considered a sacred language used mostly in prayer. Aramaic, a closely-related offshoot of Hebrew was the language spoken in Israel. The most sacred prayers on Yom Kippur are still said today in Aramaic. Netanyahu’s point was that Jesus was an Israeli Jew. The Arabs of the neighborhood falsely claim him as their own. Why does the gentile world not deconstruct the Arab lies about Israel, Jerusalem and every other aspect of all related history. Is that not a form of anti-Jewish? By the way, how many people know that the word “Jew” should have been spelled “Ju” as in Judean? Reagan made a mistake visiting the Nazi cemetery and corrected it at the Berlin Wall. Your comparison does not apply. In Berlin, Reagan demanded freedom for the communist-chained Easter Europe. The wall in Israel was forced upon us, as a means to the universally accepted practice of self-defense. Proof=Arab terror went to almost zero after the barrier’s rise.

    • Ha Meshuga

      the pope though is easily manipulated by those close to him but who, in reality are filled with nothing but hate.

      “Woe is me, that I sojourn with Meshech, that I dwell beside the
      tents of Kedar! My soul hath full long had her dwelling with him that hateth
      peace. I am all peace; but when I speak, they are for war.”

      http://www.israellycool.com/2014/05/25/media-fall-for-cheap-palestinian-pope-photo-op/

  • Texas Patriot

    There is no question that Jesus was Jewish, but his complaint about the Jews of his day was that they weren’t Jewish enough. Unfortunately, the thing that most Christians today fail to realize is that the teachings of Jesus Christ call for a higher state of perfection and a more profound state of holiness. See, e.g., Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount found at Matthew Chapters 5-7. Therefore, instead of criticizing Israel, what Christians ought to be doing is refining our own path, correcting our own steps, and putting our own house in order. As Jesus said,

    Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

    Matthew 7:3-5

  • http://batman-news.com chuckie2u

    The Pope is trying to bring all Christian Denominations (Daughters) under his control as well as bridging the gap between the Catholics and Muslims. How he will bring the two together to form an acceptable “One World Religion” will be interesting.

  • James_IIa

    Please don’t say Francis is an anti-Semite. I have been working out my attitude toward my new Jefe and have been working toward the conclusion that he is…intellectually challenged compared to his illustrious predecessors. His recent behavior is evidence that his thinking has been overwhelmed by anti-Israeli “peer pressure” in his culture. (While conceding, of course, that he has no peers.)

    • Joe The Gentile

      This is probably correct, but a World leader who is warmly, cluelessly, non-hatefully, intellectually-challengedly effectively antisemitic is just as bad as a leader who is hatefully antisemitic.

      • mollysdad

        I suspect that the Pope has been briefed by the Catholic bishops in the Middle East. All of them are committed to replacement theology, they are dhimmi and loving it!

  • Joe The Gentile

    As a person with a Catholic background (though no longer personally a believer), I apologize to Jews worldwide, and Israelis in particular, for various elements of the behavior of Pope Francis discussed above.

    I see him as being to Catholocism what President Carter was to America. A well-intentioned person, but very destructive in his cluelessness.

    • James_IIa

      You should have been along with Obama on his tours of the world apologizing for stuff he thought others had done. If you are not the Pope how can you sensibly apologize for the Pope? If you’re not a Catholic, how can you sensibly apologize for Catholics?

      • Joe The Gentile

        I don’t consider myself responsible for the pope’s behavior and don’t apologize in a personal sense. My apology is a corporate apology, as a worker in a corporation might apologize for something someone else in the corporation did. Apologizing for things you did not personally do, but things done in your name in a sense a group you are identified with, is good bridge-building behavior, although not required behavior. Obviously, not ALL apologizing is right and good.

        • James_IIa

          Fair enough. My recollection is that typically corporate CEO’s or officers apologize for misbehavior of their subordinates, so the apology implies lines of responsibility, but I understand your explanation.

  • http://www.clarespark.com/ Clare Spark

    It sounds as if the Pope shares Obama’s view of the Arab-Israeli conflict, which is one of moral equivalence, not Arab elite resistance to modernity. See http://clarespark.com/2009/09/11/oil-politics-and-obamas-view-of-israeli-history/. “Oil politics and Obama’s view of Israeli history.”

  • jtrollla

    This Pope is more of a politician with very strong Marxist leanings, than anything else. He behavior, and what can only have been an intentional insult to Netanyahu, betrays an underlying antisemitic predisposition. All Jews and Christians need to be one their guard as far as this Pope goes: he is a shape-shifter.

  • Wolfthatknowsall

    A number of years ago, some friends of mine … they are Catholics … were talking to me, when I was considering converting to Catholicism. John Paul II was alive, and I was struck by his humanity and compassion. He seemed Christlike, to me, and a part of me wanted to be part of his Church.

    My friends said, “Popes come and go. They’re all different … some are wonderful, and some you wouldn’t want in your own house, for a visit. Becoming a Catholic is not about ‘liking’ or ‘admiring’ any Pope.”

    They were, of course, completely correct. I’m so glad I didn’t finish the process.

    About my near-miss with Catholicism, yes, even a Princeton Ph.D. can make errors in judgment and logic.

    Francis is steeped in liberation theology, and he might even believe in what he says and does. But that doesn’t mean the rest of the world must venerate and believe in him …

    • Texas Patriot

      Wolfie, once again we’re pretty much on the same page. I thought John Paul II was the best thing since Barry Goldwater and the Beatles. But just as not all Republicans are like Barry Goldwater and not all rockers are like the Beatles, not all Popes are like John Paul II.

      • Wolfthatknowsall

        Yes, we are. If only we could get another Goldwater (I still have my AuH20 button from the ’64 election).

        • Texas Patriot

          I remember those buttons. They were like secret code among the Goldwater elite. You had to actually know chemistry before you knew what they meant. Goldwater was so amazing. I enjoyed every minute of that campaign, and I still find it hard to believe that he lost to the likes of Lyndon Johnson.

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            They were, indeed!

            The Leftst media … which was all that existed in 1964 … fixated on Goldwater’s “extremism” statement. Former Vice-President Nixon said that his heart sank when he heard those words, even though he knew what Goldwater meant by them.

            As for Johnson, he went to his grave with the deaths of many Americans on his hands …

          • Texas Patriot

            Nixon was much more political than Goldwater, but Goldwater would probably have made a much better President. If Goldwater said he would do something, you could take it to the bank.

            It’s hard to overstate just how catastrophic the Johnson presidency was to the American people and the American way of life. With Goldwater as President, we would have either gotten out of Vietnam completely, or blown Hanoi and Haiphong off the map in a matter of weeks. In either case, the war would have been over very quickly, and many American lives would have been saved. Regarding domestic policy, instead of busing black students into white communities and leaving black families to the mercy of drug dealers and ghetto profiteers, Goldwater would have made sure that schools in black communities were as good as any schools anywhere, and as a result, all Americans would be better off today, especially black Americans.

            The truth is that Barry Goldwater was an honest and decent human being who cared about all people of all races and who loved American idealism and optimism with a passion equalled by very few others either before him or since. The thing that separates Goldwater from all the other idealists and optimists in the history of the 20th Century is that he was a realist and a pragmatist who knew that real progress in anything always requires hard work and personal sacrifice. In our hearts we knew he was right, and he was.

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            By the way, my father was an Illinois delegate to the 1964 GOP Convention, and he took we me with (I was 15). I sat with my dad and listened to Sen. Goldwater’s acceptance speech, and it was a turning-point in my life.

            He would have made a great President, and there would have been no “battle” in Tonkin Gulf, and no “Great Society” … code for socialism.

            Another interesting tidbit about Nixon … he was sent to Vietnam by President Eisenhower to assess the situation there, where he met with Sir Robert Thompson (the British counter-insurgency expert). He reported back to Washington that, according to Thompson, the Vietnamese conflict was essentially over, and there was no need for American troops.

          • Texas Patriot

            They didn’t call Barry Goldwater “Mr. Conservative” for nothing. There’s never been another one like him before or since, and everyone who wants to think of themselves as an Authentic American Conservative, either now or in the future, will have to be compared with the standard he set.

            I think we’ve had a conversation about the ’64 campaign before. I was fifteen as well, and I campaigned hard with my high school Young Republicans chapter right up until the day of the election. When Goldwater lost, it felt like the nation had just suffered a devastating nuclear attack. There was an eerie feeling of silence and dread at our school, and I’ve never experienced anything like it before or since. From my standpoint, it was even worse than the day John Kennedy was killed. The sense of foreboding was overwhelming, and it was not unjustified. Things began to change for the worse fairly rapidly after that.

            The next year, I went to the Young Republicans State Convention in Austin as the co-representative of my high school group. Our Republican college contact at the University of Texas was a law student with a goatee, granny glasses, and a turtleneck who looked like Vladimir Lenin, and the hottest music on campus was Bob Dylan’s Rainy Day Women (a/k/a “Everybody Must Get Stoned”). By that time, it was obvious that the cultural revolution was already well underway. How could anyone know what was coming next?

            This year will mark the 50th Anniversary of the defeat of Barry Goldwater at the hands of the forces of Lyndon Johnson. Except for a brief moment of at least partial sanity during the Reagan-Bush years, we’ve been on a downhill slide ever since. Like a star patient with a team of bad doctors, the America we all love has suffered grievously. A succession of costly foreign wars have been fought at great expense with little or no benefit to the American people. Despite spending more money on education than anyone else, our schools have gone from the best in the world in science and math to being the worst among any industrialized nation. We’ve steadily lost millions of jobs and entire industries to overseas competition. Instead of being the largest creditor nation in the world, we’ve become the largest debtor nation, and we’re borrowing more than $1.6 billion a day to pay our debts as they come due.

            There is no question that Barry “Mr. Conservative” Goldwater would think we’ve all gone nuts. So where do we go from here? How do we go about reversing the mistakes of the last fifty years and put America back on course? Got any bright ideas, Wolfie?

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            Hopefully, this is just my mood of the morning …

            But I think that it’s either is, or almost is too late. In my opinion, this country is on a downhill slide that won’t stop until the result is Civil War Two. I desperately don’t want that to happen, because I’ve seen such conflicts in several different countries, as a young man.

            A second American civil war will make the first look like a Sunday School picnic, by comparison. The end will be a divided nation, perhaps with certain sections dominated by foreign troops, and millions of deaths (and not all of them combatants).

            I hope for the best, and work for it, constantly, but my heart tells me that America has purposely been set on decline.

            it’s possible we’ve had this conversation, before. I used to post here under a different screen name.

          • Texas Patriot

            The risk of total disintegration and civil war is not beyond the realm of possibility, and it is exactly the kind of thing that Barry Goldwater would have abhorred. Like all great Republicans including Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Dwight Eisenhower, Barry Goldwater was first and foremost an American Patriot, and preservation of the union, the unity, and the well-being of the American people was always at the top of his list.

            If it does come down to civil war, I agree with you that it will be worse than anything we’ve ever seen before, and it would only mean victory for the forces which have sought to divide and destroy America since Lyndon Johnson took office in 1965. Making sure that never happens should be the highest priority of all Americans, and especially American Conservatives of the Barry Goldwater School like you and me.

            My thought is that the best way to restore the unity of the American people and the union of the United States of America is to make America competitive again, and to make sure that all Americans understand that they have a stake in the outcome! As set forth in Adam Smith’s amazing The Wealth of Nations published in 1776, things are really not that different today from the way they were in the Stone Age. When the hunters bring home meat, the tribe eats. Otherwise, they don’t. And it’s still tribe against tribe, just as it was then, only today, as noted by Adam Smith, we refer to the various tribes as “nations”.

            For better or worse, the international competitive landscape has changed completely since 1964, and our economic competitors have gotten immeasurably stronger even as we have gotten immeasurably weaker. If you haven’t already seen it, check out this video by Dr. Robert Atkinson introducing his book Innovation Economics: The Race for Global Advantage (Yale University Press, 2012).

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWM08DzTuhY

            What Dr. Atkinson says is that we need to win the race of attracting and keeping high value-added manufacturing in the United States, and I think he’s right. If you’re up in DC, you ought to go by and say hello. Atkinson is the president of the ITIF, and he should be accessible in your neck of the woods.

            http://www.itif.org/people/robert-d-atkinson

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            Agree with everything you said …

            One of the most dramatic things that the United States could do is to reduce the tax-rate for manufacturer’s to zero%. This would have the effect of making American-made products inexpensive, but of high quality, and inducing industrialists to build their businesses in America. It would also put aggressive enemies of the US, like China, it a difficult position.

            I was also tempted to say that unionization should be waived for American manufacturing firms, but they would quickly move to right to work States. Within a couple of decades, all states would be right to work. This would dramatically lessen the overall strength of the Left, which … since Lenin … has depended heavily on union money and bodies to win elections.

            Good manufactures can be produced in America, and this would provide jobs by the millions. I own a 1997 Toyota Avalon … yes, a Japanese company, but it was manufactured in the United States … that runs like a new car, in spite of the fact that it has 315k miles on it. With proper maintenance, it should run for another 200 thousand miles. American workmanship, for American workers of all races.

            Also, thanks for the link. I’ll look it over.

          • TruthWFree

            So how do you like Ted Cruz or Allen West…or both…on the next ticket in 2016? Or Trey Gowdy? These guys are pretty much in that mold…but can they get elected? God forbid if Hillary makes it. We’re toast. I’m concerned about making it to 2016 under this illegal in the White House. Maybe it takes an America hating guy like him to drive the ignorants to conservatism…high price to pay.

          • Texas Patriot

            I love the idea of Trey Gowdy and Ted Cruz teaming up, and I think Allen West would make a great Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense. All together, I think they would make a great team for 2016. But I agree that getting that kind of ticket elected could be a challenge. After all, none of them are exactly household names. Unless the economy totally craters in the next two years, Hillary could be very tough to beat. We’ll just have to take it one day at a time and see how it all plays out. From my perspective we’re in totally uncharted waters, and anything is possible.

          • TruthWFree

            BTW, I grew up in El Campo, born and raised…how about you?

          • Texas Patriot

            Houston. But I’ve been to El Campo many times. Great BBQ out there.

          • TruthWFree

            Yeah, Mikeska’s, but there’s a place in Sealy that is also very good…Hinze’s. I lived in Houston (Kingwood) for a while (2003-2008) but before that lived in Cincinati area of Ohio, Northern KY, West (By God) Virginia, and then Indiana (Santa Claus) before returning to Texas. Sent my three kids to A&M…I’m Class of ’65. I do like Louie Gohmert asking hard questions of this corrupt Obama admin. Ted Poe is a good man down your way too. I’m up in the Dallas area now…don’t miss the mosquito’s or the humidity. :)

          • Texas Patriot

            Mikeska’s is the one I’ve been to. Hinze’s I’ve not been to, but I’d like to check it out. Do you remember a place in Eagle Lake that was only open on Fridays? It was basically just a giant pit with twenty or thirty briskets. They only sold takeout and only by the pound. Best BBQ I’ve ever had. We can always use more good patriots in Texas. Fortunately, the mosquitos and humidity haven’t gotten too bad yet. But it’s still very early. ;-)

          • TruthWFree

            I was gullible at the time also. However, don’t even remember if I voted. Just goes to show that many young people including myself back there are/were clueless. I loved Reagan but I was older and smarter by then. Had no idea what a jerk Johnson was. At least he resigned later…or did not run.

    • David Layman

      I didn’t get quite as close as you apparently did, but,…yes.

      • Wolfthatknowsall

        The first minister I can recall, in my life, was named Layman. He started a church in suburban Arlington Heights (Chicago area), back in the early 1950′s, and I’ll never forget him, or his good wife.

    • Judahlevi

      They would have been fortunate to have you.

      There was a time in history the papacy was up for sale to the highest bidder.

      All human beings are fallible. It goes with the territory.

      • Wolfthatknowsall

        Thank you, sir!

        I believe that one of the Medieval popes was a teenager who was a “party boy”. And with almost unlimited funds and absolute power, could he ever throw a party.

        There was a priest, while we were attending a local church, who announced that he was a “bad priest” (Why? He didn’t say). But he hoped that when he died, perhaps God would let him into Purgatory rather than where he deserved to go.

        Fallible humans all, yes. But I grew up in a church in which the ministers were deeply-committed men of God.

  • PaxNM

    It is fact that the Nazis received considerable support from the Roman Catholic Church, and that Pius XII did little if anything to distance himself from them.

    • FormerlyLib

      So untrue. Those lies started to be spread in 1960 with the publication of a fictional play.

      Those who have documentation can disprove your outrageous claims. Gary Krupp is one. He is a Jew who set out to discredit Pius and after extensive research is his biggest fan. His book can be found on Amazon and his site is ptwf dot org.

      In his concordat with Germany, the papal nuncio (Eugenio Pacelli – who later became Pope Pius XII) asked that Jews be treated as well as Catholics. Hitler violated the concordat in which Pacelli was trying to save Catholics in what was becoming a totalitarian state.

      When he became pope he spoke out and Hitler responded by rounding up all nuns in many convents in occupied Holland – one nun was Edith Stein – a Jewish philosopher who had converted to Catholicism. She died at Auschwitz along with her sister and most of the nuns in her convent.

      The pope than made many efforts to save Jews in WWII. He relaxed the rules of the cloister and Jews were hidden in convents and monasteries all over occupied Europe. He put out the word to priests to print as many false Baptismal certificates for Jews as they could without arousing suspicion.

      The Chief Rabbi of Rome took refuge in the Vatican during the war along with about 4,000 other Jews. After the war, he converted to Catholicism and took as his baptismal name Eugenio (the given name of the pope) – “in honor of this great man who did so much to help my people.”

      I can take just about any other pope being trashed. I’m used to it. But I draw the line on Pius XII and WWII.

      • patrickhamilton

        Wow. You did some revision job on Hitler’s pope. But the truth is out there. He did virtually nothing to help the Jews.

        • FormerlyLib

          The revision was done in 1960 and now the efforts of Pius XII are being truly restored. But you are a bigot. So you must believe anything you read that supports your hate.

          Gary Krupp: “Pius XII and World War II: The Documented Truth…”

          ptwf (dot) org.

          • patrickhamilton

            “BIGOT” that’s the fall back parrot cry of the fanatical papist. That’s all you’ve got. Sad. You, actually, must believe anything that supports your religion which is a religion of hate as it has proved clearly down through history with its slaughter of protestants and others, and now shows with its ignoring the plight of Christians, and, as in this article, its pro-Islamist stance. BTW I read a lot of stuff on Pius XII, from whitewash attempts to neutral historical assessments, and it is on record that, even under pressure from Allied leaders during WWII he would not raise his voice to condemn the genocide of the Jews. As for Croatia, why, when he was briefed over the genocide of the Serbs, did he do nothing ? The slaughter was being preached, and carried out too, by priests and monks. After the end of the war Pacelli actually hid fleeing Croatian war criminals, including the fuhrer or poglavnik of Croatia, Pavelic, in the vatican. But the truth is probably beyond you as something to be sought out.

      • Edie_VA

        I just completed reading the 547-page “The Goebbels Diary 1942-1943″ translated by Louis P. Lochner. There is no doubt that “after we secure victory” the Third Reich planned to deal with the “C question” – the churches of Germany.

        Hitler and his goons planned to exterminate the churches, just as they had the Jews. They realized this was impractical during the hardship of “total war” when German men and women were working 10 hour daily shifts in armament factories and subsisting on very low food rations.

        One hundred years after the Reformation, 90% of Germans were Lutheran or other Protestant denominations. How in the world did people expect a Catholic leader in Italy to influence events in Germany where only 10% of the population was Catholic and most of the Protestants detested the pope and Catholics in general.

        I have some background on this – my great-great-grandparents left Germany because they were considered low status peasants and no better as Catholics – they migrated to the United States.

        • FormerlyLib

          They will do anything to trash the pope and the church. This bigot just said the pope did nothing. There are really bigger kooks who make up stories that the church invented Nazis and collaborated with them. There is no proof of any of this whatsoever. They just read it on some blog and then spout it as true.

      • ✞Servant✞

        Stein is a Jewish name. Hitler rounded up Jews, most were not into Judaism.

        • FormerlyLib

          She was sent to the death camps as a nun when the Nazis invaded her convent. Many Catholics and other Christians died in he holocaust – nuns, priests, Cathoics and other Christians who helped Jews.

          Some Jews were not too happy when Edith Stein was canonized as a saint with her religious name: Sister Teresa Benedicta of the Cross. And some Jews did start disliking Pius XII when the Chief Rabbi of Rome during the war converted to Catholicism after the war and praised the pope.

  • rebaaron

    Quite right. This pope crucified Israel. He is just one in a long line of malevolent popes who created the anti-Semitism that is still part and parcel of the culture of all European countries.

  • BMS

    With all do respect to the Pope and his followers his anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian actions on this trip were disgraceful. Calling Abbas a man of Peace? I guess the jihadists and suicide bombers are all potential Nobel Peace Prize winners in his eyes. For a religious leader of intelligence, he showed himself, on this Middle East visit, to be a real meshuganah.

    • mollysdad

      He called King Abdullah, Mahmoud Abbas and Shimon Peres “a man of peace and a peacemaker”. His speeches sounded as though they were written by his diplomatic team.

  • Walter Sieruk

    As stated before .that the pope is for the idea of dividing the land shows more then even bad judgement. For ont only is that idea unrealistic and impractical for many reasons. Nevertheless, aside form those resaons the main reason the “dividing the land” is a very bad idea is that the coming of the Anti-Christ who is prophesized in the Bible to come and do many wicked things. One of is the the Anti-Christ will do is to “divide the land…” Daniel 11:39. Since the pope is very much for “dividing the land” this shows the he must of some of the spirit of the coming Anti-Christ in him. Of course many people will not like to hear this. Nevertheless, considering everything , what else can be the conclusion ?

  • rjm

    Historically in the past the Catholic Church was anti Semitic, unfortunately Francis has destroyed the golden relationship Israel and the Catholic Church held for the past 2 decades for ideological reasons. He is finally showing his true colours and motives for the Jewish state. That he would rather appease Islamic supremacist that kill and prosecute Christians throughout the Muslim world than confront them. It’s sad he did not even mention the plight of Christian persecution in Palestine, Jews and Christians alike are treated like second class citizens in PA and Gaza.

    • James Blazsik

      You are ignorant of Catholic history – the Catholic Church has never been anti Semitic. Individual Catholics have been, but the Church – in it’s teachings has never been anti Semitic

      • rjm

        Francis praying at the security fence is a slap in the face to the Jewish nation. And calling Abbas a man of peace is false because the PA Leader has incited hatred and murder of Jews. Instead of confronting the PA history of prosecuting Christians he appeases them. He should of voiced loudly his opposition to the PA terroism by uniting with the known terrorist organization in Gaza, which has been actively striking the Jewish homeland with missiles.

        • Ken Kelso

          Great post

      • patrickhamilton

        Why then did the Vatican take so long to recognize the state of Israel ? Answer that.

  • Anukem Jihadi

    This Pope like so many modern leaders follows the trend of being an empty vestment. He is a weak and foolish man.

    The wrong man at the wrong time for the Church though they think he holds the future. The media will jealously guard him.
    I don’t think he has a mind of his own so there may be no possibility of swaying it with reason. He’s a proxy for worldly forces he does not understand.

  • FrontPgSubscr

    Rome is showing its true face!!

  • greg

    I am a friend of Israel, was an exchange student there back in high school. The author of this article is WAAAAY too sensitive.

    • Guest

      You are dealing with extreme Zionists. That’s how they are.

  • DontMessWithAmerica

    Someone needs to point out to the Pope that Jews have not been burning down churches in the Middle East. But hundreds of churches have been burned in only the last few years by the folks he seems to favor. Is he sucking up to them so that they’ll stop burning churches? Is that how to win his favor? Should Israelis burn down a few churches to get his attention? Naw…he’s not that important.

    • patrick

      The Pope does not favor AQ or Muslim Brotherhood. Read some news accounts about his trip rather than this biased article.

  • 1Indioviejo1

    I think now that politics in the Vatican dethroned Pope Benedict XVI. His Conservative positions, including his speech at Regensburg University which riled the Muslim world, made him persona non-grata. Francis is the Pope that the Catholic political world needed at this time. It is good that they don’t represent Christ, but the worldly milieu of the day.

  • Thomas J. Hennigan

    Pope Benedict when he was 16 was, like practically German youth of the time, forced into the Hitler youth, but neither he nor his family had any sumpathy for Nazism, so I think your aside comment on this unfair to him. the context certainly implies that he freely and willingly joined the Hitler youth and was in agreement with Hitler, but this is totally false. What do you expect a 16 year old boyd to do in such circumstances when the Nazi regime was falling apart? Get himself shot uselessly?

  • Anamah

    Francis stabbed me in my heart.
    Because I know he knows!
    He has betrayed the truth and for that I’m astonished…
    Always though he was a sincere and honest man.

  • itaintmojo

    Francis is foolish and ungrateful. Israel treats Christians great. Especially in comparison to any Muslim neighbor. Or maybe Frsncis is getting some rather large donations from wealthy Arabs.

  • Guest

    Why can’t people understand that the pope only wanted peace. Are people also aware how many Palestians have died in the Israel-Palestinian conflict? not to mention the continuing oppression of this group of people – whether they are Christians or Muslims? Stone-throwing kids were put in Israel jails, some shot to death. The casualties of Israel (note: not minimizing the horror) is only a fraction of the Palestian casualties in their long history of conflict. Look at the poverty on Palestian side. The Pope being on the side of the oppressed – as normal compassionate people do, it’s not surprising that he cares for the oppressed. Why is kindness and oppression equated to Marxism? I don’t understand. Perhaps, you people have not experienced poverty first hand. I just read average income for Israelites is $36,000 while in Palestine, it’s $2000 (both per annum). So who are the real victims in this ongoing conflict. And some of you are thrashing the pope for wanting peace in the region?!

    • Drakken

      You whine for the pali’s that got killed because of their own actions, too bloody hilarious. There will never ever be peace with those goddamn inbred savages, I hope Israel finally gives them a taste of Carthage. Eff those goddamn pali savages.

  • Guest

    Why is the kindness and compassion (not oppression [correction] of the Pope denigrated by people?

  • Confuse

    Yes, we live in a scary world that those who desire peace and justice are insulted and labeled as Marxist and idiots. What a shame the world has become.

  • Demo P. Seal; PouponMarks

    It’s Liberation Theology. That’s what he believes in.

  • pfbonney

    I guess it’s about time we return to getting our popes from Italy, like in the pre-Vatican II era.

    They say you can’t be more Catholic than the Pope, but for the first time in my life, I’m beginning to doubt that.

  • TruthWFree

    This man appears to be part of Satan’s plan to destroy the Church…He is allying with those who follow Satan’s religion. Could Francis be the anti-christ? or one of the anti-christ’s enablers? This guy is scary and I’m Catholic….or rather a follower of Christ first and always. He’s worse than Obama in his support of things Islamic.

  • JSBach Lover

    I’m not at all a particular fan of Pope Francis. But it’s not necessary to use a false argument re: his attitude towards Israel when other, good arguments could be used.
    The Pope WAS/IS right about Jesus speaking Aramaic, not Hebrew. And so did most of his followers/disciples. That’s been a commonly accepted fact, at least by biblically orthodox theologians, for centuries. Yes, as a rabbi Jesus certainly knew Hebrew, and often quoted the Scriptures (Old Testament) written in Hebrew. But it’s interesting to note that when Pilate ordered the sign “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews” placed above Jesus’s head on the cross — so that EVERYONE (who everyone read) could read it — Hebrew was NOT one of the languages Pilate ordered to be put on the sign: the sign was in Aramaic, Latin and Greek (in that order, says the Gospel of John).

  • Natasha Gerson

    But the pope is right about the Aramese. There is general historic agreement that Aramese was the language spoken by the Jewish people until the revolt of Shimon Bar Kokhba. See Yigael Yadin himself, There were several Judean dialects of Aramese. It is frightening how this simple fact, a gentle correction by a pope who in fact bases himself on Israeli research, immediately becomes the source of utter hysteria, preceded over by the Jerusalem Post and Frontpage and lapped up by hatemongerers. Shame on you, inform yourself

  • Aterg

    I hardly could believe Pope Francis behavior in Israel. He definitely is a communist . This was clear from day one of his papacy. Maybe what Islam needs is Communism for a couple of generations, than they may finally recognize the values of democracy, free speech and equality of all human beings. Yes I am disappointed, and start to believe that religion is the opiate for the masses. Fortunately many real Catholics see him for what he is personally, and not what the church is advocating. Love of humanity, equality, respect for life, human and animal.

  • Aterg

    Why was my comment initially accepted an few minutes later not available? Censorship? Where is free speech. I did not use foul language or accusations of untruth?