Bowe Bergdahl Dances With Wolves

Dawn Perlmutter Director and founder of Symbol & Ritual Intelligence and Associate Fellow at the Middle East Forum is considered one of the leading subject matter experts (SME) in the areas of symbols, unfamiliar customs, ritualistic crimes and religious violence.


dwDances with Wolves is a 1990 film starring Kevin Costner as an army lieutenant who leaves his unoccupied American frontier military post because he is attracted to the lifestyle and customs of a Sioux Indian tribe. He learns their language, is accepted as an honored guest, and eventually abandons his post after he falls in love with one of their women. When U.S. army soldiers reoccupy the post the lieutenant is captured, arrested as a traitor, and charged with desertion. While being transported back east as a prisoner, the Sioux track down the convoy, kill the soldiers, and free the lieutenant. The film ends with him riding into the mountains with his Sioux wife. This liberal love story—similar to many others that demonize the white man and the military, as well as misrepresent the barbarism of their enemies—is the type of fairytale that may have inspired Bowe Bergdahl to walk off into the mountains of Afghanistan.

Like Kevin Costner in the film, Bergdahl began learning the native language of Pashto, and reportedly spent more time with the Afghans than he did with his platoon. A few days before he went missing, he told his parents in an e-mail that he “was ashamed to be an American,” and that “the horror that is America is disgusting.” Several news reports claimed that the night he disappeared from his base in Afghanistan he left a note in his tent saying “he wanted to renounce his citizenship and go find the Taliban.”

Bergdahl’s disillusionment seems to be based upon a combination of the belief in the mythology of the Noble Savage and liberal propaganda derived from postcolonial and anti-hegemonic theory that interprets history, politics, and culture in the context of Western domination and oppression. This form of disillusionment is perpetuated in Hollywood films and revisionist history that portray white men as the oppressors in every conflict regardless of factual historical accounts. Dances with Wolves depicted the Sioux as pacifists and environmentalists when they were the most bloodthirsty of all the Plains Indian tribes, raping, pillaging, and torturing people for entertainment.

Bergdahl seemed to have similar misconceptions idealizing the Taliban and not understanding the threat. His fellow platoon members contend that he was a deserter. If that is the case, then similar to the army lieutenant in the film Dances with Wolves, Bergdahl “Turned Injun,” a pejorative, but accurate expression for traitors who willingly convert to their enemies’ ideology and adopt their traditions, language, and customs.

“Turning Injun” should not be equated with “Stockholm Syndrome,” in which a person is taken hostage and may begin to sympathize and identify with their captives. The difference is significant: the latter relinquishes culpability. By choosing to abandon his unit Bergdahl was not a typical hostage who was taken captive eventually suffering from Stockholm Syndrome, rather he was a victim of liberal idealism who was mugged by reality. His suffering involved severe disillusionment — the result of bitter disappointment that the Taliban whom he idealized as the Noble Savage turned out simply to be savages.

Conflicting reports of Bergdahl converting to Islam and working with the Taliban while also trying to escape has provoked disagreement and contradictory interpretations of the situation. Understanding some of the Taliban sexual practices may explain some of the inconsistency in Bergdahl’s behavior. The Taliban are ethnic Pashtun who combine Islam with their Pastunwali honor code, often resulting in differences in perceptions of honor and shame particularly as it relates to sexuality. A practice that is designated as strictly taboo in Islam but widely practiced by the Pashtun and Taliban is sex between men. Pashtun reject the label of homosexuality and describe relationships with other men as something they do, not who they are. In addition, it is common for men to have sexual relationships with young boys. Pashtun men shun women both socially and sexually and one of their most popular sayings is “women are for children, boys are for pleasure.” For Pashtun men, having a young boy lover (ashna) is not only not taboo, but increases status and reputation. This is exemplified in a prevalent cultural practice called “bacha bazi,” or “boy play.”

Bacha bazi is essentially the practice of trafficking pre-teen and teenage boys to be used as sex slaves by Afghani Pashtun men of status. The young boys are kidnapped into the trade or sometimes sold by their parents who are desperate for money. The boys are forced to dance and sing, wear make-up, and dress like girls at parties where they are often shared with their owners’ close friends for sex. Dancing boys are a lucrative business. Men pay a lot of money to purchase boys who are placed up for auction, kept as permanent sex slaves, traded, or resold. The practice was originally more common in northern Afghanistan but has spread to the South. Afghans view this tradition with pride.

The Taliban attempted to suppress homosexuality and eliminate the tradition of bacha bazi, but it was so pervasive among Taliban militants that there was little effort made to stop the practice or crimes related to the activity. In an attempt to mitigate the abuse of young boys, the Taliban came up with a set of 30 laws in 2007. Law #19 stated that Taliban fighters must not take young boys without facial hair into their private quarters. For the Pashtun it is simply a way of life not any different than the practice of child brides to older men, so it is neither immoral nor shameful. In fact, it is socially sanctioned, has historical precedence, and is glorified in Pashtun poetry and literature. The only instance where shame is attached is serving in the female role, and that is mitigated by growing into the male role.

Regardless of whether Bergdahl was a collaborator who naively joined the Taliban to help the Afghan people, or whether he was captured after wandering off base, he most likely was repeatedly raped. Bergdahl may have been relegated to one of the Taliban ‘Ashna’ boys that are groomed for sex—in prison parlance, he was their “bitch.” This may explain his attempts at escape and his clean shaven appearance during his handover to American Special Operations troops. In recent reports Bowe Bergdahl told military officials that he was tortured, beaten and locked in a shark cage in total darkness for weeks at a time as punishment for trying to escape. The Taliban also gang rape men, women and children as punishment. If he were raped by the Taliban or kept as a sex boy it is unlikely that it will become public knowledge.

This entire scandal can be analyzed in terms of honor. Bergdahl did not comprehend military honor as he did not have any loyalty for his fellow soldiers or allegiance to his country. He certainly did not have any comprehension of the Pastunwali honor code or he would have understood that the Taliban could never respect someone who betrayed his own people. If National Security Advisor Susan Rice had any concept of honor, she would not have stated that Bergdahl served with honor and distinction. The administration also obviously has no concept of military or Pashtun honor, as they would have understood that a prisoner swap only demonstrates weakness, shame and a loss of face for both the military and America.

The Bergdahl scandal exemplifies how political correctness has infected every aspect of the military, from suspending counter jihad training courses, to relaxing uniform rules to make religious allowances. The epitome of political correctness is exemplified in the fact that although Bergdahl left written notes indicating he abandoned his platoon, he was promoted in absentia twice from private first class to sergeant, and almost received a third promotion to staff sergeant.

Army basic training is supposed to transform civilians into disciplined infantrymen that possess the Army values, fundamental soldier skills, physical fitness, character, confidence, commitment, loyalty, and the warrior ethos ready to accomplish the mission of the infantry. Now, however, their hands are tied by a Commander-in-Chief who in one year fired nine senior commanding Generals and whose politically correct policies led to the degradation of traditional military culture. This resulted in a soldier who acted upon misguided ideals of social justice, viewed violent enemies as oppressed occupied victims of American aggression and who had no concept of loyalty and allegiance to his brothers in arms. The Army was supposed to teach Bowe Bergdahl about honor and shame; instead the Taliban did.

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  • cheechakos

    Well this is informative and brutally honest.

    The narcissism and ignorance of the left never fails to surprise me. The refrain they use; “they are just like us” ,is so self centered ,childish and blind to reality it explains a lot of their failures.
    Bergdahl is a victim of many things.The worst being his own self delusions and denial. Neither of which excuse his actions.

    • liz

      Your description of the left is right on the mark, as is this entire article. They epitomize carelessness, combined with the utmost arrogance. Bergdahl is a perfect example of what happens when leftist solipsism meets the real world.

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      • Michael Garfinkel

        Yes. This phenomenon is also illustrated in the old adage, “A Conservative is a Liberal who has been mugged.”

        • miss

          sorry I;m not buying it I have been mugged. His assumption is he went to the Taliban and it is not been proven. what I think is clueless is republicans they call themselves fiscally responsible yet bankrupt the country with their wars. always wars. you being clueless and believe anything that fox news throws at you Oh and the IRS scandal was about to implode so th republs called a halt

      • miss

        solipsism pretty big word Is your favorite book Atlas Shrugged?

    • Americana

      It’s informative? Really? Descriptions of bachi boys and the suggestion that Sgt. Bergdahl was raped and made into a bachi boy is being honest? First, he’s pretty darn ugly and he’s also huge so him being a bachi boy isn’t really in the cards. We don’t have any other instances where Taliban prisoners from the West have been raped so why would Bergdahl suddenly become the prime candidate for daily raping or being inducted into the Bachi Boy Hall of Fame and Shame? This writer took huge liberties w/a whole bunch of things to produce this article. The only thing on which she’s being relatively honest is the fact that the American military until fairly recently has never had its homogeneity challenged by an ethnic group that’s ever wanted to take on the uniform but, in order to do so, would like the Army to allow its adherents to wear something in addition to the U.S. Army uniform. Colonial armies all over the world have been allowed to wear some aspects of their traditional dress. The Sikhs have been one such unit. They wear turbans. The French have had African units from various tribes that have retained aspects of their tribal garb.

      • http://www.stubbornthings.org NAHALKIDES

        Thanks for contributing absolutely nothing to this discussion. And Army units are “homogeneous” for a reason – the men have to think and act as a unit – there’s no room for variations in uniform like pink tutus or articles of clothing that are non-American.

        • Americana

          What I contributed is exactly what needs to be contributed to this discussion. Some discrimination and common sense. American units have been homogeneous up until now, for one reason only. and that is that this country has been largely composed of ethnic European nationalities during its earlier major wars. It’s only recently that we’ve had influxes of Muslims from several different Muslim countries. Since we are battling Muslim jihadis, we have need of NATIVE SPEAKERS for many of the intelligence operations involving jihads in various countries. Other countries have had native dress be incorporated without discipline falling to pieces. Bergdahl deserted. We will soon know why he deserted. But to claim the Taliban sodomized him for 5 years and he was a bachi boy is outlandish considering it hasn’t happened to any other captives or hostages. He sure doesn’t look like a dancer or a singer to me but, then, what do I know?

          • Drakken

            You again show you complete ignorance of Islamic culture in general and Pashtun culture in particular. It is the rule not the exception that male or female, if you are taken captive by these sub human savages, you will be raped. There is a cave, which I have personally see in the mountains near Bagram, filled with Russian corpses hanging from the ceiling like wind chimes, who the locals claimed had their manhood taken from them. So you go ahead and think and believe that this type of savagery is just an aberration, the reality is quite different.

          • Americana

            Drakken, I specifically said the Russians were a unique case unto themselves viz the Afghans because of the war crimes committed during that war. If you care to disabuse me of the Russians having committed no war crimes, go ahead. I’m also not saying that some percentage of hostages won’t be raped, but not everyone is going to be raped. Bergdahl approached them under highly unusual circumstances putting them under a certain degree of cultural obligation. Do I need to go get more stories of other journalists who’ve been captured and held for ransom and not raped? I know for a fact these men I’m thinking of weren’t raped. I believe Joanie de Rijke was raped because of the nature of the story she was reporting among other factors.

          • Drakken

            What the Russians did was warfare, period. What do you think they do to the muslims in Chechnya? They know how to deal with them because when you fight these bloody savages, there is no mercy and no quarter. If you think you can fight and win by playing by so called civilized norms with a uncivilized savage, you could not be more wrong.

          • Dawn Perlmutter

            de Rijke was sympathetic to the Taliban and writing for a leftist magazine. Even after she was raped by them for six days. she acknowledged that her captors “did horrible things to me,” but added
            in several media interviews “They also respected me,” and emphasized
            “They are not monsters.”

          • Americana

            It doesn’t matter in the case of that story. She picked a story that was guaranteed to make them suspicious of her and that might have helped trigger that kind of reaction. Would the Taliban have known she was writing for a Leftist magazine? I think you’re attributing a sensitivity to their analysis of her motives they might never have investigated. Sometimes militants look up the journalist’s bona fides before agreeing to an interview, in many cases they don’t. Look at how long it took before the militants who took Daniel Pearl knew he was Jewish. Many journalists who’ve suffered for their work have decided it was worth it to them. As outsiders, you might not think so but it’s the prerogative of the journalist to think what they think.

          • Michael Garfinkel

            Is there any behavior de Rijke would describe as “monstrous?”
            Apparently not.

          • miss

            right winger do not think women can get pregnant during rape. she was there; you were not

          • Guest

            ” Do I need to go get more stories of other journalists who’ve been captured and held for ransom and not raped?” CAPTURED journalists do not equal WILLING converts who propose acceptance of a new culture with all its idiosyncracies. Bergdahl didn’t know what he was letting himself in for until too late. Just another naïve lib do-gooder who collided with reality.

          • Americana

            Oh, you’re saying that captured journalists would be raped and that willing converts would not be raped? Or are suggesting the reverse is true, that Bergdahl was more likely to be raped because he’d DESERTED and JOINED the Taliban willingly? So Bergdahl would have been raped because he was willing to follow Pashtun tradition in all its idiosyncrasies?

            I’ll offer a bet for anyone who wants to take it up. My bet is that Bergdahl was not raped and was not a bachi boy. Who’s betting on the other side — he was raped for 5 years straight as a bachi boy?

            (This bet doesn’t indicate I’m as cynical as the bet seems.)

          • Drakken

            I’ll bet you a cool grand and take that bet.

          • Americana

            Get real! You’re on contractor wages and I’m on farmer wages. Plus, I’ve got horses and other livestock to feed along w/a thirsty tractor.

          • Drakken

            If you want to walk the walk, be prepared to talk the talk sunshine.

          • Americana

            You are such a hardass! How ’bout I send some of my homemade herbal remedies from the Great Northwoods?

          • Americana

            Willing converts don’t expect to suffer idiosyncrasies like male rape and since Sgt. Bergdahl’s situation would have put the Pashtun Taliban under a social obligation to him, I find it highly unlikely he would have been subjected to it. He most certainly was naive but his naiveté may have helped him in this situation. At any rate, we will eventually find out.

          • Americana

            I’m willing to wager that Sgt. Bergdahl wasn’t raped and didn’t become a bacha bareesh. Who’s willing to take the other side of that bet — that he was raped and that he was a regular bacha bareesh in the Taliban camp?

            (PS — This doesn’t indicate any cynicism at all.)

          • miss

            and it might not make the right wing look so foolish if you waited until the investigation was complete

          • miss

            you do not know what happened idiot how can you make these assumption with out knowing.

          • Americana

            http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/2001/newyorker120301.html

            Is that what they tell you to prepare you for battle? I’d say Sgt. Bergdahl presented his Taliban captors w/a unique situation that challenged their moral code. I’m fine w/waiting to find out what his true circumstances were.

          • Drakken

            It is not what is said, it is a known factor. I have seen what these savages do to ignorant westerners, it is never pretty or for the faint of heart. I will bet you a very cool grand that bumfuc*ed Bergdahl was a Pashtun bitch.

          • Americana

            I’ll take you up on the bet. However, it’s got to be less than a grand. I’m not earning contractor wages and my horses and other farm animals have to eat and I have a thirsty tractor.

          • Americana

            It doesn’t matter that it’s a KNOWN factor if it’s not applicable in the situation. Sgt. Bergdahl’s approaching the Taliban in this way would have put them under a cultural obligation to him. I doubt they would transgress against their own moral code especially since it’s not in their best interests given the situation.

          • miss

            so bloody what?? good god what has this world come to? he was tortured so if that is possible but this tool even denies he was captured. the author contradicts his own arguement

          • Americana

            Sgt. Bergdahl’s situation would have put the Pashtun Taliban under an obligation to him. I don’t see that raping would be in the cards given those circumstances. But we’ll eventually find out what happened.

            This is from the Global Security web site:

            Melmastia / melmasthia / melmastiya – hospitality is another major dimension of pakhtunwali. The commensalism of Melmasthia is a means of showing respect, friendship, and alliance. A complex etiquette surrounds the serving of guests, in which the host or his sons, when serving, refuse to sit with those they entertain as a mark of courtesy. Closely related to melmastia is the requirement of giving refuge to anyone, even one’s enemy, for as long as the person is within the precincts of one’s home. These codes, too, are related to the concept of honor, for the host gains honor by serving his guest, and the person who places himself under another’s protection is weak, a supplicant. Refuge must extend to the point of being willing to sacrifice one’s own life to defend one’s guest, but a person who demeans himself so much as to plead for mercy should be spared. Among the Waziris a little child was said to be sufficient escort through the lands of the tribe, and they were said to protect men who have killed their brothers, if they come as guests. The method of insuring safety was to sit by a man’s fireside and neither eat nor drink till he promises to convey you safely to any place you wish to reach; by the Afghan custom he must comply, and either go himself or send a near relation to prevent danger. If this ceremony be neglected, food and a pipe will be freely given, but it will depend on the character of the host whether he does not rob and murder his guest the moment he leaves the threshold. When they wish to rob a stranger, they either try to civilly hinder his entering the house, or make him eat before he asks for protection. The Achikzais were said to consider themselves as relieved from all obligation to hospitality when a guest had eaten his full, and to have a right to rob him or murder him when they please.

            Panah is to take someone in personal protection. Even if a notorious criminal or an outlaw asked for panah he will definitely be granted asylum and duly protected. It has happened many a times that a murderer after committing murder asked for panahfrom the family of the victim and they have him panah. During panah he enjoys equal rights and status but when he leaves thier house, he can be killed in revenge and his family cannot claim for any penalty of reward under the custom of badal (revenge).

          • Americana

            These are some more of the obligation factors under which Sgt. Bergdahl might have qualified in the minds o the Taliban (from afghan land.com):

            NANEWATEI: Under Nanewatei a penitent enemy is forgiven and the feuding factions resume peaceful and friendly relations. Thus it creates a congenial atmosphere for peaceful co-existence and mutual understanding through eventual reconciliation.

            TEEGA OR KANRAY: Teega or Kanray is cessation of bloodshed between contending parties. Teega (putting down of a stone) in other words means a temporary truce declared by a Jirga. The word stone is used figuratively as actually no stone is put at the time of the cessation of hostilities. Once the truce is enforced, no party dares violate it for fear of punitive measures.

          • C R S

            Ours is not a “colonial army”. We have no need of traditional dress ethnic or otherwise, unless you want tricorn hats and buckskin.

          • miss

            he took worse liberties than that he took the liberty to say that american did not displace native Americans saying he was some specialist. He took liberties like he was there and he doesn’t know anything

      • Michael Garfinkel

        Well, this post is incoherent, but I would suggest the writer check out the treatment Russian prisoners received in Afghanistan; also French prisoners in Algeria.

        • Americana

          The post isn’t incoherent, Mike. The Russians did all sorts of horrendous war crimes in Afghanistan. What was done to them as Taliban prisoners was as much the outcome of their treatment of the Taliban as the cultural options under Islam. Whatever else we can say about American soldiers, it’s been a rarity for them to have committed atrocities. The Afghan Taliban know this so it’s not likely they’d subject American prisoners to the same treatment as Russian soldiers. Besides, Sgt. Bergdahl went to the Taliban and admitted not being able to war against the Afghan people any longer.

          • Drakken

            You call what the Russians did war crimes, I call it warfare. When you fight these sub human savages, you pay them in their own bloody coin, it is the only thing they respect and fear. I hate to break this to you, but you don’t fight uncivilized savages with civilized norms.

          • Michael Garfinkel

            Actually, the western powers, including the Israelis are fighting the Islamists with the most exacting “civilized norms,” which is why Iraq is reverting to anarchy, the Taliban are poised to resume control in Kabul, and the whole of North Africa is rapidly becoming Islamist.

          • Drakken

            That is my exact point Mike. Ever wonder why those savages in Chechnya and Dagestan are scared of the Russians? Unlike our idiot leadership who thinks that you can make nice with these sub humans.

          • Michael Garfinkel

            General Pershing had the right idea.

          • Drakken

            I’ll take the Russian method, much more effective and permanent.

          • Michael Garfinkel

            Well, the fact remains that there are no effective military methods being employed, nor are there likely to be.

            This will change, of course, when the level of pain becomes too great to dismiss – and it will.

          • Michael Garfinkel

            “Americana” is determined to miss the point of the whole article, as he provides apologies for the barbarous sadism of the Taliban.

            Indeed, he suggests, to put it bluntly, that the Russians “had it coming,” so to speak.
            Perhaps the Americans too, he avers – but to a lesser extent.

            He has no comment about captured French officers sodomized routinely in the Algerian conflict – before their execution.

            Ah! They had it coming too, those white, French, colonialists!

            In closing, he references a “war against the Afghan people.”

            I think a better case can be made that it is the Taliban, and the Islamists generally, who are at war with people everywhere, but that’s a post for another day.

          • Drakken

            One bright point in the French Algerian conflict, the Legion had a Brigade of former German Waffen SS and Wehrmacht who did wonders with the muslims there, they simply killed a lot of them and it worked.

        • Americana

          It’s not incoherent in the least and that’s why the comment was removed. But you can pretend it was incoherent if you want. The Russians committed all sorts of war crimes in Afghanistan; they were known for their brutality. The Pashtun may well merit that treatment but we’ll never agree as to what is the chicken and what is the egg in that culture’s wars w/Western armies.

      • Dawn Perlmutter

        It is much more common for women who are raped to come forward, most men, particularly in the military do not want to report rape. There have been other Westerners raped by the Taliban. In November 2008 Dutch journalist, Joanie de Rijke, went to Afghanistan to conduct an interview with the Taliban who had just killed 10 French troops. She was abducted, held captive, serially raped for six days, and released after a ransom of 100,000 euros ($137,000) was paid.

        • Americana

          Sure, it’s more common for women to admit they’ve been raped than men. That’s a given. But there are significant differences between what Joanie de Rijke did and what Bergdahl did. Bergdahl basically would have put the Taliban under a cultural obligation to care for him. We will find out more about his abduction. De Rijke’s abduction and assault, on the other hand, happened under very similar conditions to what happened w/Daniel Pearl. I would have been very suspicious if I’d been along w/de Rijke. She was going there to interview the Taliban in an attempt to embarrass the Taliban. Why is it we western journalists think we can necessarily interview the Taliban about their war crimes as if we’re interviewing a Western head of state? After Daniel Pearl’s abduction and killing, ANY journalist going to Afghanistan should observe stringent security precautions and it doesn’t involve letting the Taliban set the terms of the interview.

          • miss

            BO BERGDHAL DID NOT PUT HIMSELF INTO THIS SITUATION HE WAS CAPTURED. THE VERY FACT HE WAS TORTURED IS PROOF. after reading all these ignorant comments it is a wonder the right wing can even talk at all

        • Lorilu

          I seem to recall that T.E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia) was raped. It is common in that part of the world.

          • miss

            another stupid comment it is common in the USA 1 out of 4 women

          • Lorilu

            Read the comment. I said Lawrence, a man, was raped; rape of men is common in that part of the world.

            Cite your source for the 1 out of 4 women being rape victims in the US.

      • Amerikarma

        Have you read “Charlie Wilson’s War”. There is an account by a British SAS trooper that he witnessed a Russian POW being raped. American contractors got in trouble in Afghanistan for going along with the vulture. Forget that report. Did you see the movie ‘The Kite Runner’. What about all the other reports. Are you for frigg’n real?

        But I look on the bright side. You are only going to outgas for 20 or 30 more years before you are in a home or in the ground due to old age..

      • Jakareh

        Do you have some actual information about Bowe Bergdahl’s weight and height? He looks to me like he’s slight of build and not tall. In any case, while the section about Bergdahl being raped is speculative, your assertion to the contrary is as well. I doubt Bergdahl was trained as a bacha bereesh, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t raped. In fact, it might have happened after he tried to escape. Something like that happened to Amanda Lindhout in Somalia. The bottom line is, who knows?

      • Lorilu

        It has been reported that Bergdahl is 5’9″ tall and 160 pounds–not “huge” by any means.

      • miss

        what does what bergdhal was wearing any importance? the whole thing is a crock

  • jakespoon

    The reason he may not want to talk to his parents or anyone else is because he’s ashamed of himself. He had one idea about the Taliban and when he finally met up with them ,he found out the real truth. That they are savages but nothing “noble” about them. Just barbarians from the dark-ages. Wouldn’t be the first time reality has smashed liberal ideology right up side the head.

    • Dawn Perlmutter

      The fact that he does not want to talk to his parents is highly unusual and I agree with you I think he is experiencing deep shame. He may be angry with them for not preparing him for the realities of life or war.

      • J.B.

        He shaved himself down in a ritual farewell to his sugar daddies. Even his eyebrows. Boydoll is going to strap on a bomb and detonate himself in shame the first chance he gets. Or something similar.

        He took it up in him for five years.

        You have that traitor pegged, Perlmutter.

        • miss

          you do not have anything pegged except your foul ignorance that you persist in believing this man is a POW was tortured and held hostage and because of the ignorant right wing keep this thread going. the traitor is you to defile a POW like this

      • Michael Garfinkel

        The army didn’t either, unfortunately.

  • Docs357

    I believe there ovomits kind of people without honor truth or accountability

    • J.B.

      Tea Party candidates are stomping on Establishment RINOS in the primary elections. The days of Democrat Lite are ending. The GOP will have enough members to impeach Obama very soon. Hamas will be back on the terrorist watch list.

  • Tradecraft46

    Hope he enjoyed the experience. I suppose that he will use the Patty Hearst Defense if brought to trial.

  • IngeC

    I appreciate the brutally but honest assessment!
    Despite all that I still can not muster one iota of empathy for this man; he caused so much pain for others dealing with the deaths and life long injuries.
    In a way – Bergdahl was as selfish as Obama – not thinking about the human toll on those service members forced to look for this deserter.

  • Ban Liberals

    So then, as I gather from the article, the actions of the Bergdahl traitor are due to the actions of another traitor: Obama.

  • Webb

    So poor Bolo Bergdahl got himself reamed out for 5 years. That sure explains his appearance in the photo. The Tallies got him all ready to be Bammy’s Boy now. No wonder Bathhouse Barry is so excited to get him back.

  • Michael Garfinkel

    It has been widely been reported that the father’s reply to the sons infamous e-mails about his unit, the army, and his country was to offer advice to “follow his conscience,” without a word about loyalty to his oath or to his fellow soldiers – or to the United States army, whose uniform he wore.

    “Follow your conscience” in this case smacks of “you’re better than that,” doesn’t it?

    The image of the Bergdahls at the Rose Garden with Obama, an image that has infuriated millions, is one of three smug, self-satisified, multi-culti types, enjoying a shared sense of superiority.

    Later, the father would tweet sympathetic messages to theTaliban.
    It’s clear where the young Bergdahl got his values, or lack thereof.

    The real horror of this story is that one of the three insufferable idiots at that Rose Garden ceremony was a man twice elected to the office of President of the United States.

    • BagLady

      It also states that his parents are ‘devout’ Christians and therefore would be giving him advice on how to protect his ‘soul’.

      • CowboyUp

        His father is a convert to islam, so it states wrong.

        • Americana

          His father converted to Islam a long time after his son’s captivity. They were devout Christians prior to their son’s desertion. In fact, I have not read that Bergdahl’s mother has converted to Islam. Perhaps it was just his father who did so to intervene for his son.

      • J.B.

        That lie is so idiotic that even a paid trolltard like you should be ashamed of it.

    • Americana

      Why would it smack of “You’re better than that?” Why wouldn’t it smack instead of something more appropriate to the situation like, “If you’re uncomfortable doing what you’re doing as a soldier, then speak to your commanding officer.”

      • Michael Garfinkel

        Uh, because Bergdahl’s subsequent actions were the opposite of this.

  • Demetrius Minneapolis

    I’m not so sure that if Bergdahl was utilized as a captured “bitch” (I would think it likely because one of the basic tenants of islam is humiliation, and what better than that of a clueless American), it would not be made public at some point. They seemingly enjoy recording their mistreatment of detainees with cameras or camera-phones and usually the video finds it’s way onto some southwest Asian internet board. It would just require someone with the time, know-how and language skills.
    Seriously, the stuff on those boards would have you reconsider the point of humanity.

    • BagLady

      Yet we see no similar footage with Bergdahl and he appears to be in excellent health so perhaps you exaggerate.

      • Demetrius Minneapolis

        You obviously live in ignorance. Have you read my point that it takes some searching. I have seen videos before they were taken down that if Americans had seen and was made public would cause an enormous ruckus. Go look for yourself, perhaps you will get lucky (or unlucky, depends how sick you are).

        • J.B.

          What websites reveal the filth you describe? I don’t want to see them but I think I should.

    • Dawn Perlmutter

      Excellent point. I think they will be releasing more propaganda videos with Bergdahl in the future. The Taliban will wait for an opportune time to release them.

      • Demetrius Minneapolis

        That’s how they work. Sometimes the Pak government (Malaysian, Indonesian as well) will remove the videos from servers before we can see them. Not for the feint of heart but it’s a necessity in understanding who these people are, where they are and who their friends are.

    • Drakken

      Sorry to say, rape and humiliation of western captives by these sub human savages is the rule, not the exception.

  • SeeingLeft2014

    He may be a deserter! However the America intelligence community must have gained lots of information with the interactions with the Taliban, that not many news sources aren’t mentioning.
    Don’t you think the US got facial/ocular recognition with footage of the Taliban and there locations is and satellite tracking of where they are afterwards, and where the GTB detainees movement is. Why wouldn’t the US somehow unknown to the detainees was given some kind of tracking device, that if they go back towards their old ways would just lead the US to more Taliban fighter.
    If Obama released them without measures to track them and gain useful information than I would be really shocked.

    • J.B.

      If Obama didn’t give them BJs and gift baskets before he freed them I would be really shocked.

  • BagLady

    The film ends with him riding into the mountains with his Sioux wife.
    This liberal love story—similar to many others that demonize the white
    man and the military,”

    Lovely movie and such a breath of fresh air after decades of anti Indian claptrap.

    Hi Ho Silver and Tonto (Spanish for stupid). Lone Ranger – qui ma sabe (sounds like he who knows everything).

    • DaCoachK

      Oh God, you are one of those people, the Left-Wing-Kooks. This site was created to give normal Americans a reprieve from the insanity that you people believe. Please leave and stop bothering normal people. Nobody here believes in your crap.

      • Demetrius Minneapolis

        There always has to be one or two of these individuals to kick around. I don’t see ol’ Mohammad here much anymore….

      • Drakken

        Actually, let her spew her leftist communist viewpoint to her little red hearts content, it shows everyone what they are up against.

      • BagLady

        Oh, kimo sabe, forgive me, you speak for everyone. Is it an exclusive club then, with you the bigmouth piece? Only those who go along with whatever it is you believe in may give their opinion. (haven’t noticed you on here before, but then you probably find that in your daily life)

    • CowboyUp

      “Anti indian claptrap,” out of hollywood? Did you sleep through the last half of the 20th century?

      • nightspore

        Not to mention earlier films like Fort Apache.

        • CowboyUp

          I was being generous, lol, and that was one of the movies I thought I might get busted on.

    • Wolfthatknowsall

      Kostner’s character deserted his post and turned traitor. This is not a “lovely story” …

    • Mel

      Ever hear of the 1983 film called “The Triumphs of a Man Called Horse” starring Richard Harris?

      Sacred Ground is a 1983 western adventure

      Young Guns

      the original Cowboys starring John Wayne?

      • Americana

        Loved the Man Called Horse films! Which one did you like best?

    • http://www.stubbornthings.org NAHALKIDES

      Terrible movie, and you’re a terrible commentator. When you have some useful ideas about how to totally defeat Barry, Hillary, and the rest of American’s enemies known as the Democratic Party, let us know.

    • MK75Gunner

      Your knowledge of American Indian tribes and their practices is exactly ZERO. If you knew even a scintilla of what the Sioux and the Blackfeet and the Comanche, et al, did to each others tribes, MUCH LESS, to the white man, you would wet your little panties.

  • BagLady

    A thinking soldier. We can’t have that now can we? Robotic killers is their role, nothing more nor less.

    Move up the ladder of a few rungs and it’s a different story. Idiots,. most of them. Sadly they are the ones giving the orders.

    • Paul of Alexandria

      Typical Progressive. Mock and deride that which you cannot understand. No, the military are not “robotic killers.” You’ve been watching too much TV propaganda.

    • Demetrius Minneapolis

      I can tell you have never served in the military or worked within the national security paradigm. There are places where an individual must, for the well-being of those around him must shutdown his own thoughts and place his/her thoughts into the control of others. There are also positions where one is granted to strategize and implement an educated thought. Each job is different. If someone is not qualified to voice an opinion, they should not. It’s how militaries have functioned throughout history.

    • http://libertyandculture.blogspot.com/ Jason P

      A thinking soldier would have understood the vile nature of the enemy and the need to help protect his comrades from harm. He was not a thinker but a fool living in a fantasy world. The real world bit him on his …

    • CowboyUp

      Obviously, bowe’s problem was that he didn’t think, and the leftist indoctrination he relied on was wrong.

      Your perception of the US military and military virtue is extremely narrow and ignorant.

    • Wolfthatknowsall

      All soldiers think … the local environment, the potential threats, the mission, their buddies (I refuse to use “comrades”), and so on. But they have to be desensitized to violence, if they are to accomplish their mission.

      My mission, in Vietnam, was to take out VC, NVA, and the occasional Russian, so that intelligence assets could check them out for information. I was quite good, at that role. I didn’t like killing, and I wasn’t a robot. I did what was within the mission parameters. That you don’t understand this is your problem, not mine.

    • Drakken

      I would take anyone of any military service over a goddamn communist like you any day of the week and twice on Sunday. You would sell your own kind to a 3rd world savage just to prove how open minded and tolerant you are. You and others of your ilk are a bane upon our existence.

  • Fudge

    Not a single intercourse is given by me that the traitorous defector was raped. Too bad they didn’t rape him to death.

  • logdon

    Excellent article and as stated, one which the msm will never touch in a million years.

    This is the ‘narrative’. An all pervasive politically correct cultural marxist obsession which has taken over politics and its hanger on media.

    Basically one huge lie at core with the spin offs infecting the establishment and institutions.

    Quite honestly what those seventh century barbarians get up to in the ME, Aghanistan and Pakistan riles not because of what they do to each other but how its all covered up in a cloak of cultural relativity back here and the lies spun to excuse the inexcusable.

    One thing, you’ll not see a best seller of Buggering Bowe on the Amazon list too soon.

    • Americana

      The MSM wouldn’t touch this story **as is** because it’s main thrust is all speculation. For this to appear in a newspaper as NEWS, it would have to be entirely re-written to meet the standards for news reporting and, even then, given it’s premise, it likely wouldn’t pass the editing process. It could certainly appear as a guest editorial or opinion piece but, even then, it might run afoul of meeting editorial standards.

      • logdon

        You haven’t answered even one of my points.

        Then again that’s what dissemblers do.

        • Americana

          I’m not dissembling. I addressed the main point of which you complained which was that this was a story that should be shared w/the MSM. I said it wouldn’t be run by the MSM because it didn’t meet journalistic standards. It meets advocacy journalism standards but that’s not what the ethical standards are for a MSM newspaper.

          • logdon

            You mean they don’t do op-eds?

          • Americana

            Yes, it could certainly appear on the op-ed page. That’s not how I understood your meaning when you said the MSM wouldn’t “touch it in a million years.” They wouldn’t touch it because of its speculative nature. News is NEWS, after all, and there is a difference.

  • Cappy1437

    Excellent, informative article. Thank you Dawn Perimutter.

  • cxt

    I’d be really interested in Bergdahl’s opinion of his captors and his savor’s NOW as opposed to his muddle thinking prior to walking off his post.

  • Wolfthatknowsall

    I loved the movie Dances with Wolves until the very end, when I realized that Kostner’s character was a deserter AND a traitor. Never watched it, since …

    There’s no one closer to a deserter than the men in his unit. There’s no one who would know better how he thinks. Their lives depend upon this knowledge.

    In Vietnam, I was part of a two-man team … I was the sniper, and the other part of the team was my spotter, and radio operator. I trusted him with my life, and he did the same. Had I walked away, leaving my weapon and equipment behind, he would have almost instantly known it. I would have given signs in my past statements to him. He would have known the circumstances of my “departure”.

    I’ve said, before, that I will await the judgement of the JAG’s office, on him, and I will. But his own squad leader has categorically stated that Bergdahl is a deserter, on national television. He was uniquely-placed to make this assessment.

    • aPLWBinAK

      “Kostner’s character was a deserter AND a traitor.”…….and it wasn’t made any more palatable by the fact that Kostner has a demeanor that radiates smug self approval.

      • Wolfthatknowsall

        Ain’t that a fact!

  • CowboyUp

    I was wondering why he was clean shaved in some of his ‘hostage’ videos, and that would explain it. It also explains the look on his face, and his avoiding his family.

  • skier

    Maybe now he will tell his lefty friends and Code Pink that Terrorists are not nice people like they claim they are. I wish every terrorist sympathizer would fall into their hands. That’s the only way these delusional moon bats would learn.

  • skier

    Thanks for the article! This article needs to be on Huffpo and all other liberal delusional sites. The truth must be told!
    That explains why Bowe does’t want to speak to his dad… Didn’t dad tell him to “follow his heart”? Look what his dad got him into…

  • Pete

    Dig deeper into the fired generals.

    One was passing fake gambling chips. He had a bad gambling habit and thus could have been easy prey of foreign intelligence officers. It is also bad for morale if a senior officer is engaged in crime. How are they to condemn an airman for the same or similarcrime

    Another officer, brigadier general in Italy, was having zex with the help. This creates poor moral There is “close to the throne” syndrome. did they earn their marks on their annual performance reports or was it because they were doing the boss. There are only so many slots at each level. messing with the help breeds much resentment due to the competitive nature of assignments and promotion. Without regards to promotion or assignments it breeds poor morale. Are the people making decision that could get you killed dong so objectively to the best of their ability or is their little head doing the thinking.

    There was one that got canned after the Moscow trip was drunk during official business. He was also at risk for recruitment. I don’t mind the general getting drunk, but it is usually done with fellow officer of similar rank & out of sight at an O club or similar venue.

    I wish I had the link that went through these cases.

    Obama is trying to subvert the military to his wishes and he does despise it. but at least 1/2 these 9 cases do not prove that assertion.

    • Americana

      Yes, Pete, many of these men had significant failings and fell into the conduct not becoming an officer designation. Not to mention they had jobs that could have been compromised if they’d been concerned about being exposed. There were only a couple whom I felt were not guilty of having committed firing offenses.

      • Pete

        Dawn Perlmutter made a mistake with the line about the generals. Her overall thesis stands.

        The news of Obma’s failings is getting worse. I got to check the news on Mosul. Al Qaeda may have taken over Iraq’s 3rd largest city. Obama told us they were on the run.

        Democrats had bette rhop e the economy is good, because they are toast if they mention foreign policy.

        Al Qaeda on the run? Really?!? What an utter m0r0n!

  • Johnnnyboy

    Just a complication on the movie, Dances with Wolves, Costner’s character defects from the military because he has a bullet wound and they are about to amputate the wounded limb. What they do not get into in the movie is that puncture wounds infect with great ease owing to poor drainage, and all this predates effective antibiotics. That is why they amputated limbs so frequently in the Civil War. It was to avoid an infection that would very likely turn to gangrene and kill the patient.

    In a real life situation, had Costner’s character done what he did in the movie, the almost certain outcome would leave him dead in a couple of weeks, and that would only be if somebody was willing to tend him. Otherwise he would most likely die of exposure before infection because a wounded man is unlikely to be able to tend to his own needs.

  • fiddler

    “If National Security Advisor Susan Rice had any concept of honor, she would not have stated that Bergdahl served with honor and distinction.”
    Just another instance of the upside-down morality of this administration. I wonder if National “Security” Advisor Susan Rice understands security at all. Or rather how to merely carry out orders from her boss, even if that includes revising obvious mis-statements, or trying to doctor them up. Ah yes, all of the educated masses cannot understand clear English.

  • joe dirt

    Getting his fudge packed by the enemy would be a good lesson then.

  • Christopher Riddle

    An EXCELLENT Analogy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.stubbornthings.org NAHALKIDES

    Excellent article reminding us of the primitive barbarism that Obama is so intent on surrendering to.

  • popseal

    Multicultural adherents are deluded beyond hope of recovery. Some so-called cultures are savage and dangerous. Until they give up their world view, there will always be Taliban and their ‘bitches’. See ‘man love Thursday’ or ‘dancing boys of Afghanistan’ for more………..if perversion is your thing!

  • UCSPanther

    All I can say here is that he who leaps the fence into the gorilla enclosure generally knows what is awaiting him, and he only has himself to blame when he gets battered up as a result.

  • Jimbini

    Wow! This is an eye opener, and totally believable. But, it leaves me with one question – has this practice spread to neighboring Pakistan? The reason I ask is that when Obama was at Occidental College, he had a Pakistani roommate. The two were inseparable, and Obama wore a gold ring on his left ring finger. People who saw them described them as acting like a married couple. And BTW, Obama has no beard. Also, what was he doing during his unauthorized visit to Pakistan?
    Just sayin’

    • Americana

      Yeah, I’ll bet you’re “just sayin.’”

  • D Brown

    I believe the writer is way off. And the level of speculation is irresponsible. I spent about an hour on google a few days ago and was able to piece together the influences on Bergdahl’s upbringing which explain why he walked away. As for being raped, I also seriously doubt it happened because he is not a boy and the Haqqani considered him a commodity to be sold, not a pet. Otherwise he would not still be alive. He was raised a Calvinist, home schooled with theological writings, and later became a Buddhist. Hence he is familiar with exploring the depths of ethics and morality, and the sacredness of human life. He loved learning new languages and had learned a few before adulthood. I doubt he was enthralled with Taliban or Muslim life, rather he was overly sympathetic (as a soldier) to the hardships the Afghans suffered by living in a war zone. He probably tried to contact the Taliban in order to secure safe passage out of the country as he had told one of the platoon mates he wanted to walk to India. My guess is he wanted to live among the Buddhist there. The Muslims most likely gave him the ultimatum to convert or die. Because of this I view him as a deep thinker weighing the moral issues of war and the responsibility of changing ones mind when the evidence supports doing so. Most soldiers don’t have the faculties to contemplate the depth of issues of war, but Bergdahl couldn’t escape it. I’m not a sympathizer to his cause because I believe the had the ethical responsibility to surrender himself to his platoon leader rather than leave.

    • Lorilu

      You speculate just as much as the writer you criticize. After an hour on google you have been “able to piece together the influences on Bergdahl’s upbringing which explain why he walked away.” Anything you believe is mere supposition.

      As to him not being a boy, the writer mentions that gang rape is a punishment in that culture for men, women, and children.

      One question: Why does Bergdahl refuse the chance to speak to his parents? That causes me to speculate that he is ashamed.

  • Drakken

    Been there, done that, got the postcard and the t-shirt, so anything else you want to contribute swallower?

  • Rainey C

    But he wasn’t with the Taliban, he was with the Haqaani network.

  • dad1927

    When the left meets islam would be a good title.
    Or its not like Pelosi said it would be

  • UCSPanther

    Go ahead: Leap into the Gorilla enclosure. We’ll be there to watch the fun.

  • miss

    this guy makes a lot of assumptions . of course the dances with wolves was inaccurate . That native ameericans killed or tortured is not even the point . a liberal idea that a group of white people from Europe displaced and slaughtered many native Americans is the truth and he can talk about his revisionist history all he wants. His point is that Bo Bergdhal took off on his own, not that he was captured. and he does not know if this is true. He is speculating and doing what most conservatives do that make stuff up and call it truth. He was POW and one fact this esteemed author left out was that his platoon had been up to no good. The running over of a child and not stopping was one incident . who knows if his platoon was not involved in a murder rape. this would make them close ranks against him and would have him vilified to keep this out of the media. Funny how something like this soldier is attacked by everyone but the killing of 16 civllians by a soldier on crank is not reported. or the rape of a 14r yo girl,and the burning of her body and her family is not worth reporting.

    this writer needs to go back to school. His credentials do not impress me as his deductions are illogical