A Game Changer in Gaza

abbas_meshaalTerrorism is a game. The rules are simple. You have three choices. 1. Destroy the terrorists. 2. Live with terrorism. 3. Give in to the terrorists.

There are no other choices.

The first choice comes from the right. The third choice comes from the left. The second choice is what politicians choose when they don’t want to make a decision that will change the status quo.

Despite all the explosions in Gaza, Israel is still stuck on the second choice. The air strikes aren’t meant to destroy Hamas. They are being carried out to degrade its military capabilities which will buy a year or two of relative peace. And that will be followed by more of the same in the summer of 2016 when Hamas will have deadlier Iranian and Syrian weapons that will terrorize more of the country.

That doesn’t sound like much of a deal, but these kinds of wars have bought more peace than the peace process ever did. The peace process led to wars. The wars lead to a temporary peace.

This status quo became the mainstream choice ever since Israelis figured out that the peace process wasn’t going to work and that their leaders weren’t about to defy the UN, the US, the UK and all the other U’s by actually destroying the terrorists.

When Netanyahu first ran against Peres, the difference between the center-right and the center-left was that he campaigned on security first and appeasement second, while Peres campaigned on appeasement first and security second. The center-right has dominated Israeli politics because most Israelis accepted Likud’s security first as a more reasonable position than Labor’s appeasement first.

Living with terrorism was a viable choice in the 80s. It stopped being a viable choice after Israel allowed terrorist states to be set up under the peace process. It’s one thing to manage terrorism in territories that you control. It’s another thing to deal with entire terrorist states inside your borders. Even physical separation isn’t enough. Not when terrorist groups can shell all your major cities.

Israel responds to that threat with light air strikes which damage Hamas’ military capabilities. Hamas loses a few commanders, fighters and rockets, but scores a PR victory. Israel buys two years of peace while encouraging its enemies to attack it as a bunch of racist baby killers. Then Hamas replaces the rockets and fighters and launches a new operation and the whole thing begins again.

The left’s argument, framed by Washington Post pundits, Israeli leftists, Obama, assorted diplomats, retired security chiefs, activist busybodies funded by radical billionaires and the entire gang of foreign and domestic enemies, is that Israel has no choice except to default back to choice three; appeasement.

Israel has to gamble on appeasement because its situation is constantly worsening, they argue. What they neglect to mention is that the situation is worsening as part of their pressure on Israel to appease terrorists even though the current problems exist because of earlier appeasement.

“Drink this poison,” the doctors of diplomacy say. “It’ll cure you of all the aches and pains you’re suffering from the last time we told you to drink poison.”

“If you don’t drink more poison, you’ll get sicker and die,” they say. And if you do get sicker after drinking more poison, they’ll say it’s your own fault for not drinking enough poison. If only you had given away all of Jerusalem and the Golan Heights, the terrorists wouldn’t be attacking you again.

Israel has been caught between choices two and three, either live with terrorism or make concessions to terrorists, and it has been bouncing between these choices.

People and politicians choose the option that causes the least pain at any given time. Israel chooses appeasement in response to international pressure. And when appeasement leads to terrorism, it does enough damage to Hamas to serve as a temporary deterrent, without leading to too much international outrage, again choosing the least painful option.

This is the true cycle that Israel is caught in. It’s not a cycle of violence. It’s a cycle of expediency.

The first choice, destroying the terrorists, is the most painful option in the short term, but the least painful option in the long term. The third choice, appeasing the terrorists, causes the least pain in the short term, but the most pain in the long term and the medium term. The second choice, living with terrorism, is slightly more painful in the short term, less painful in the medium term, but still quite painful in the long term.

Israelis have accepted short term and long term pain in exchange for a certain amount of relief in the immediate future. The occasional terrorist attack and the more ominous escalating conflict, an example of which we are seeing now, is accepted in exchange for a year or two of relative quiet.

It’s easy to criticize Israel for not finishing off Hamas, but let’s look at what is really standing in its way.

Israeli Prime Minister Rabin deported 400 Hamas terrorists, including many Hamas leaders. In a Knesset speech he warned that, “We call on all nations and all people to devote their attention to the great danger inherent in Islamic fundamentalism. That is the real and serious danger which threatens the peace of the world in the forthcoming years.”

Instead the international community decided that the peace of the world was threatened by deporting Hamas terrorists. The media spent months covering the “suffering” of the deported Hamas terrorists.  The United States voted for a UN resolution condemning Israel and ordering it to “insure the safe and immediate return of all those deported.”

The United States Ambassador to the United Nations said that deporting Hamas terrorists does “not contribute to current efforts for peace.”

In 1988, Israel had deported a handful of Hamas and PLO terrorists.

One of them, Jibril Mahmoud Rajub, vowed that if Israel didn’t let them back in that they would “infiltrate in as human bombs with explosives belted around our waists.”

Deputy Secretary of State John C. Whitehead warned Israel that if it didn’t reconsider the deportations “damage to our bilateral relations will occur.”

If that was the reaction by the Reagan and Bush administrations to deporting a few terrorists, imagine the reaction by Obama and the EU to a comprehensive effort to force Hamas and the PLO out of Israel.

And yet the inevitable can’t be postponed forever.

If Israel had not folded in the peace process, it might have been able to maintain the status quo of the intifada. But the second choice is no longer a viable long term option. The attacks have long since passed the point of mere terrorism and are taking place on a military scale.

Tolerating terrorism has ceased to be a long term strategy. That is something that both the left and the right agree on. The attacks are pushing Israel into choosing either large scale conflict or large scale appeasement. Appeasing terrorists has failed every time. Only destroying them can work.

Israel has a left that is eager to embrace the destructive policies of appeasement without regard to the consequences. It needs a right that is equally heedless of consequences when it comes to war to overcome that pain threshold which prevents it from doing the right thing and reclaiming the future.

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  • Judahlevi

    By the US and European Union subsidizing the Palestinian Arab population and treating them as ‘victims’, they financially support their hate of Israel and Jews.

    If Palestinian Arabs were made to suffer the real consequences of their leaders (Hamas), they would be starving and desperate for any change. Instead, the US and Europe feeds and clothes them, legitimizes them, and then they blame Israel for their intransigence.

    More than a military victory, an economic one will do – but only if the West bows out of the situation and allows the Arabs to bear the real-world consequences of their policy of hate by themselves.

    When the food runs out, they will negotiate.

    • truebearing

      There does need to be an economic victory, but the time has passed for it’s maximum effectiveness. With Iran supplying Hamas more sophisticated, long range, and powerful rockets, it is only a matter of time before they succeed in hitting Dimona, or destroying large areas in major cities. They could use dirty bombs or chemicals. The military option has to be unapologetically exercised and with a vengeance. Never were the words “he who hesitates is lost” more appropriate.

      • Judahlevi

        You may be right that it is late in the game for letting the Arabs suffer the true consequences of their hate, but it also points to who needs to share the blame for this disaster happening.

        It is the US and Europe (and the UN) that has sustained this faux grievance and all should share the blame for the longevity of this problem. Just as if you sheltered a child from the consequences of their bad behavior and thereby encouraged it, the First World nations have treated the Palestinian Arabs as children and thereby encouraged their behavior.

        If allowed to run it natural course without interference, the Arabs would have made peace decades ago. They would not have had a choice – they lost.

        • truebearing

          Well said.

          It may not be too late to let the Arabs suffer the consequences of their hate, but the economic leverage has weakened considerably. I agree, however, that it should have been used when it could have made more of a difference.
          The US allowed oil to tip the balance of justice and preclude a sane, far-sighted foreign policy. Europe pandered to the Muslims for oil as well, but there were darker reasons for their complicity in this theater of the absurdly evil. The West created a bully and now the bully is turning on the West, threatening us and Israel with our own weapons. It didn’t need to come to this point.

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          • El Cid

            The economic “weapon” is too late. Hamas rightly seeks the flow of goods from Israel, water and electricity, as “tribute” paid by the unbelievers. If Israel were to strangle Gaza, Hamas would get Obama and the EU to stop it.

            The Hamas Jihadists have brainwashed a young population to believe in Jihad. The President of the US validates the concept by supporting Jihadists and Islamic governments. Obama is wildly popular among Muslims.

            Hamas is more interested in death than in building a society. And, the West is more interested in punishing Israel than in helping Arabs–the world talks about Gaza while Syria burns.

          • Taimoor Khan

            The way Israel has killed over 50 children in two days, the last thing you need to create “terrorists” is Hamas.

            While I will not kill an innocent since I am not a lowlife like Israelis, I will torture Natenyahu and all Israeli cabinet to death if given the chance. That’s the rage you create among people of the world, save for deranged Zionists.

          • mackykam

            Israel has killed over 50 children in two days…
            Really? What were they doing protecting those brave Hamas members who hide their faces in public? And besides, you should only rise to the level of a lowlife, you gutter puke.
            SCORECARD:
            God of Israel 113
            Allah 0

          • BagLady

            God of Israel 113
            Allah 0

            I think I would be right in saying this is G-d of mackykam. His and only his interpretation. Shall I send you the photos of the dead infants, oh saintly one? We can then discuss whether God would be pleased with your carnage.

          • reader

            From Syria or Iraq? Make sure that ALL DEAD INFANTS of the world are pinned on the Jews.

          • Well Done

            Yes, send us photos of the “dead infants” Hamas hide behind. Hamas do this because they know there are plenty of fools like you, baglady, who will trumpet Hamas lies. Did you know that Hamas won’t allow people to leave the hospitals, schools, and houses Hamas launches rockets from? Do you know what Hamas does to people who try to leave? You’re a pig.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Nonsense. Israel is an occupying power. The conflict is due to Israel, not Hamas.

            Israel is a Nazi-like terrorist entity. Why did you have to become like your abuser?

            Nazis abused you, but you grew up to become like your abuser?

          • Webb

            Cry harder, Tami! Maybe Allahole will yet hear you, unless he is in the bathroom pleasuring himself.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            Muslim colonists are the occupying power in the Middle East.

            Islam engaged in ethnic cleansing and genocide around the world long before Hitler.

            Your own country is built on Muslim conquest and genocide.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Hindu majority India is a counter weight to the Islamic Regime of Pakistan.

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            If Hamas wouldn’t commit acts of terror, and put women and children in position to be “human shields”, there would be no dead infants. The Israelis have made it abundantly clear that the human shield tactic will no longer be effective.

            As early as Vietnam, I was taught that if there was a high-value target, and he used a human shield, you shot through the shield in order to kill the target. This is not unprecedented in the unfortunate history of the human race.

            You and I have gotten along quite well, in the past. On this, there is no accommodation that can be made. This is the world as it is, not as the Left would have it to be …

          • Taimoor Khan

            Israel deliberately kills children and women. It’s nothing to do with Hamas.

            If there was no brutal Israeli occupation, there would be no conflict!

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            If there were no Muslims, there would be no conflict …

          • Webb

            Best answer!

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            Logical, ain’t it?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            HamASS deliberately kills children, like Muslims stone girls to death over “family honor”, and gay teens, and kids who like Western music too much.

            Islam is killing its own children in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Fascist Iran, Egypt, in mosque bombings, school bombings.

            Islam is the Religion of Self Deception and Self Destruction.

          • Americana

            Unfortunately, Wolf, there is not another choice for the Palestinian forces. There’s URBAN COVER or there’s NO COVER. If you were a Palestinian fighter, where would you choose to fight given the lack of cover in the landscape and the TINY amount of territory you have available to you and your forces? I bet you would also say their only choice is to fight an urban fight.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Israel should continue surveillance over head with drones. The rockets come from underground – eventually they will be identified.
            The Iron Dome is a game changer.

            Technology will prevail over Islamofascism.

          • Americana

            Oh, and what if the Palestinians manage to get their hands on drones? Technology is not THE SOLUTION to this kind of war, it only perpetuates the war.

            So far, the world has been very lucky that no enterprising arms dealer has found a subterfuge for enabling them to get larger arms to the Palestinians. The world’s arms dealers are very careful not to piss off the Israelis… But, if for some reason the Palestinians managed to get larger arms or certain kinds of arms, the situation might not be quite so readily handled as you believe. I won’t go into certain bombing tactics that might defeat Iron Dome, but Israel shouldn’t believe the Iron Dome is the be-all, end-all and that she’s no longer obligated to pursue peace. That would be a very risky proposition for Israel, as I see it.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Pal-e-SWINIAHS have lot of drones.

            They call them jihadis, mujahadeen, Darwin Award winners.

          • Americana

            Use your brain cells to raise the level of discussion. Otherwise drone on…

          • truebearing

            You drone on….and on….and on…..and on………

            It’s good thing you’re so noisy and innaccurate. You aren’t lacking in persistence, but then, persistence isn’t a virtue when coupled with dishonesty and bigotry.

          • Drakken

            That is the problem right there, “as you see it”. You continue to howl peace at any price just in the name of peace, when the ragheads will never ever give Israel any peace unless and until Israel gets the peace of the grave. Your delusions run into the face of the brutal reality of it all. This ends only one way, Israel either wins with total victory or the ragheads get their victory one piece at a time.

          • se

            Pal-e-SWINE has drones.

            The two-legged kind whose mothers yodel over when they get killed – failing to kill any Infidels.

            Briticoma, Please go to Gaza and offer yourself as a Human Shield. Stand on the roof of a building being used to cover a Hamass rocket cache.

            You’ll have an exciting time.

          • Drakken

            Why aren’t you over here holding up a peace sign? There is one way to fight in an urban environment, it’s called artillery and you use it liberally.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            All of Gaza is booby trapped. Israel would be foolish to send ground troops in.

            Just bomb the Shiite out of Gaza until Mashaal crawls out of his spider hole and begs for a Hudna, that Israel would reject, and demand of HamASS Unconditional Surrender,

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            Of course, there are choices. You mean to tell me that there are no basements anywhere in Gaza, away from the missile sites, that women and children could be relatively safe in? Hamas uses their wives, mothers, and children as human shields so that they will be killed. There’s no shortage of Western “journalists” to “report” on the gory aftermath …

            I would fight against any enemy. But I can guarantee that I would not hide behind my wife, our children, and our grandchildren …

          • elixelx

            But this is what the mothers in gaza want, really really want. They WANT their kids to be martyrs…and wwho are we to deny them that right?
            The IAF is simply doing what the mothers beg Allah to do for them…kill their boys and collect a lifetime pension…

          • Taimoor Khan

            You really respect the wishes of mothers in Gaza?

            They also want Israelis dead. Why not fulfill this wish of theirs?

            Commit mass suicide to not only make Gazans, but whole humanity, happy!

          • Webb

            Only insane moosleems enjoy killing themselves for good old maw.

          • Webb

            Wrong-go Baggy. I heartily agree with mackykam. By all means, send the photos. I will stick them to my refrigerator as poor little ones who will be spared being taught terrorism by the adults who should be protecting them.

          • Taimoor Khan

            How about donating your children (if you have them) so that they are not raised by an moral imbecile like you?

          • Webb

            I am training them to kill terrorists willing to commit suicide for promise of 72 virgin he-goats in moosleem paradise.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Khancer’s children run on four legs and go Baaaaaaa.

          • Drakken

            When those mothers bring their babies into the kill zone, that mother bears the responsibility, not the Israeli’s.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Eff-head, whole Palestine is killzone for Israeli terrorists.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            HamASS and Fatah have made Pal-e-SWINE a kill zone as Al Qada and the Taliban have made Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan kill zones.

          • Drakken

            Ohhhhh Gooooody! Let it rain! Bring the pali’s Carthage!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Everywhere is a killzone for Islamofascist terrorists.

            US, Israel, UK, Beslan, Nairobi, Mumbai, Bali, London, Cairo, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan.

          • Drakken

            Fakestine is nothing more and nothing less than a target rich environment.

          • BagLady

            I think the ‘kill zones’ you speak of are actually Palestinian homes.

          • mackykam

            Updated Scorecard:
            God of Israel 127
            allah 0

            Odd, isn’t it, that only dead arab children bother you. If they were Jewish children no one would hear a peep out of you. And in your great concern, where is your protest of the mighty, brave arab soldier, with his face covered up, using little children as human shields?

            God is pleased. Mightily. Me, too!

          • Taimoor Khan

            Would you say “God of Germany: 6 million*”?

            *6 million is actually wrong figure. Only 1-2 million.

          • mackykam

            The difference is that the Jews didn’t go to war against Germany. Germany warred against Jews for no logical reason.
            Your denial of the numbers doesn’t change the real ones.
            6 million Jews are missed, given their contributions to civilization.
            60 million muslims would not be missed because they contribute nothing to civilization.
            UPDATED SCORECARD:
            GOD OF ISRAEL: 188
            allah: 0

          • Taimoor Khan

            Contributions like killing babies?

            You are racist like Naz!s.

            You learned nothing.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Modern Islam hasn’t learned that the Israelis are NOT the unarmed Jews of Kybar or WW2.

            That mental deficit may be why so few Muslim have won Nobel Prizes.

            Now if there were an “Noble Prize” for terrorism, Islam would win every year since 9/11.

          • Drakken

            You inbred savages kill more in a day in pakiland than Israel ever has, and here you are to complain and whine about Israel? The irony is so rich you can cut it with a knife, how quaint.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Killing babies, like raping 9 year old Aiesha, is a Muslim specialty.

          • mackykam

            We Jews are capable of learning. Muslims? Not so much.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Killing babies?

            That’s a category in the Muslim Nobel Prize.
            - Best Child Sacrifice
            - Best Beheading
            - Best Stoning to Death
            - Best Taqiyaa
            - Best Plane Hijacking
            - Best Use of a Human Shield
            - Best Na zi Salte
            - Best Bomb Camouflage
            - Best IED
            - Best ETERNAL NAKBA

          • Americana

            Don’t you dare be so dismissive of your fellow humans. This kind of crass behavior harms the Jewish reputation whether people here applaud you or not.

          • Drakken

            Frankly your outrage is amusing to say the least, 188 is nothing, Israel if it really means business should have a body count of at least a couple thousand by now, they are slacking.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Who says mjuslim terrorists are human?

            Al Qada, Ayatollah Khomeni, Saddam Hussein, Ahmadboutjihad, Assad, Morsi?

          • mackykam

            My, my. How stupid are you? Jews are despised no matter what.
            We do good, they hate us for it.
            We do bad, they hate us even more.
            We’re God’s chosen and they hate us for it.
            We’ve survived and negated the lie that God has abandoned us. And they hate us for it.
            We are smart and they hate us for it.
            We have money and they hate us for it. We demand equality and they hate us for it.
            We gave them a God and they hate us for it.
            Jewish reputation? We don’t need their approval nor do we exist due to their kindness. We are here because our God wants it this way. And they publicly hate us for it.

            Read your bible. The Jews have always been a warrior people. Now, back in our own country we are warriors again. We just don’t lust for blood like our arab cousins.
            That is the everlasting difference between the children of Israel and the children of Ishmael.

          • Americana

            Taimoor, the figure is OVER 6 MILLION. That figure is NOT in dispute by anyone who’s compiled the records. Most Jewish families in Europe lost at least several members of their families and some families were entirely wiped out. My Jewish South African guy lost EVERY SINGLE MEMBER of his European family tree other than 1 aunt who was living in London. Regardless of the number, if 1-2 million were slaughtered under those horrific circumstances of gradual, unrelenting starvation and inhumane living conditions and worked to death, that’s 1 too many killed by that method. It is inconceivable to me that anyone would try to diminish the TRUTH OF THE HOLOCAUST by claiming a lower number of victims as if that makes it more tolerable. The fact is, Arabs use the word “Holocaust” because they KNOW it indicates a huge number of victims. We must discuss every aspect of this situation HONESTLY in order to arrive at a solution for both sides.

          • Drakken

            The time for neutrality has come and passed, pick a side.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I choose Eternal Nakba for Pal-e-SWINE.

          • Bklyn Farmer

            Her problem isn’t with giving lip service to dead Jews it’s the live ones that she has problems with, just like NPR and BBC

          • Drakken

            You are correct my friend, the left is going to find it a tad uncomfortable as things play out.

          • Drakken

            You muslims living in our western lands are going to find out just how efficient we really are, what’s in a number where you savages are concerned, 1-20 million what difference does it make.

          • BagLady

            Yet another pathetic diatribe. Do not presume to know my thoughts. There have been no Jewish children killed for me to peep about. Not only do you dare to speak my mind but you insult the Almighty by suggesting He shares your hatred of others.

          • mackykam

            Insult God? He commanded us to eradicate the descendants of Amalek. Amalek was a direct descendant of Esau, who married into Ishmael’s family, father of today’s arabs.
            No children to peep about? How about the three teenagers?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Eternal Nakba for Pal-e-SWINE!

          • Taimoor Khan

            Israel’s days are numbered. If not you, your children will pay. Nobody would listen to their cries then.

            Wake up while there is time. Rub your noses in front of Palestinian mothers who lost their children and ask forgiveness.

          • Webb

            Har-de-har-har-har! I hear a sick dog howling.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Islam’s days are numbered.

            1.4 billion savages .vs. 6 BILLION Infidels.

            Who do you think will prevail?

          • Drakken

            When H*ll freezes over !

          • Drakken

            If your looking for sympathy for those savages, the west is running out of it.

          • Taimoor Khan

            You are a genocidal maniac. You certainly don’t deserve any sympathy for what happened to you when you were working in an Arab country. :)

          • Drakken

            Happiness is a high muslim body count and the Devil himself was there to welcome them with open arms and a smile. Come on over here Haji, I need the target practice.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Your prophet of Satan called Muhammed was a genocidal maniac, and the role model for genocidal maniacs world-wide.

            Hence world-wide terrorism and checkpoints at airports world-wide.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Nonsense. Israel is deliberately killing children. Own up, you baby killers. Don’t make excuses. When your time will come, we’ll remind you.

          • mackykam

            That won’t fly: Jews aren’t muslims. We are not a bloodthirsty people. Nor do we mutilate our girls. Or marry them off at 7 years old to 40 year old men who are so insecure in their penis size they need little girls to feel like big men.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            If you want deliberate babykillers, try Hamas and the PLO.

            https://hebronfund.org/blog/41-shalhevet-pass-remembered

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            And Chechyns, Boko Haram, Taliban – baby killers and more – to “honor” muhammed, the prophet of Satan.

          • Drakken

            I absolutely relish the day. Then we can finally rid ourselves of you savages once and for all time.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Khancer, Which hadith or sura explains why Muslim brood sows celebrate the death of their children?

            Would your mother celebrate your death too?

            Joy! My little Tairmoron was such a good little jihadi drone – and he always ate his vegetables and goat-kebab!

          • Drakken

            Oh look! Another haji to send to allah with our compliments. Fu** with the bull Haji, you get the horns.

          • BagLady

            Yes Drakken, but since TK wrote another 50 innocents have died.

            Is Israel accomplishing anything but more rage? No. It will die down shortly (we hope) and nothing will have changed except the carnage and the weeping parents. The number of vengeful teenagers will rise exponentially on both sides.

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          • Well Done

            Don’t paint Israelis with the filthy brush Hamas paints its own people with, baglady. There are NO “innocents” in West Bank or Gaza. All have declared war on Israel. None will oppose Hamas because they will be killed. You pig.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I wish BagLady and Americana and Khancer would offer themseslves as Human Shields for Hamass rocket caches.

          • Judahlevi

            Leftist trolls make the assertion that self defense has no value since if you defend yourself by killing those who come to kill you, you only end up creating more enemies.

            Apply this fallacious logic to WWII. If the Allies killed more Germans, they only created other Germans who hated them. In other words, don’t ever go to war since killing the enemy in a war only creates more enemies.

            The argument is pacifistic where the individual making it simply wants you do die instead of defending yourself or others. Israel, or any other country, is not going to do that nor would any rational person agree with it.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            That’s the Socialist Leftist FAKE anti-war actic. Provide support for Fascists – as Socialists did in 1939 – in the Socialist hitler / Socialist Stalin non-aggression pact.

            Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact – AKA hitler-Stalin Pact
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

            That Socialist pact lasted until Socialist hitler reneged on the pact and attacked the Soviet Socialists.

          • Americana

            That is not my rationale for avoiding the wars of attrition against terrorists nor is that my rationale in the specific case of the Palestinians. This Palestinian-Israeli situation was NEVER set up from the beginning as an equal sum end-game for both peoples. Look at what everyone hear constantly says, “Arabs have 99.995% of the land in the Middle East and the Israelis have one land that is only 0.5% of the total land.” That equation TOTALLY GLOSSES OVER the nature of the negotiations that ended up w/the land division that occurred. That equation bears no reality to what the Palestinians lost. Calling them ‘Fakestinians’ doesn’t address what they lost. It EVADES the whole question of what was taken from them.

            As I see the Palestinian-Israeli situation, the issues are rooted in the ORIGINAL pre-Israel days when stealth colonization by Jews was occurring all over the dane place WITHOUT A SPECIFIC AGREED-UPON POLITICAL DIVISION in terms of the borders, ‘the shape,’ of an Jewish/Israeli state w/borders that were ACCEPTABLE to the Palestinians. This colonization was terrifying to the Palestinian Arabs who felt that the nascent Israelis were going to somehow end up w/the whole region. All the Arabs in the area were aware of Zionism and knew it threatened the Arab status quo. This initial human equation between the two peoples became ever more complicated as more instances of interfaith warfare began to be threaded through the daily interactions. Once the powers that be negotiated the assistance of the various Arab factions in order to secure Arab armies in WW II but failed to negotiate w/all the players, including the Palestinians as an INDEPENDENT political entity, the scene was set for diplomatic disaster.

          • truebearing

            “Palestine” doesn’t exist. Hadrian renamed Israel as “Palestine” as part of an ethnic cleansing. He latinized “Philistine,” a old enemy of Israel, and used it as a term of propaganda and disrespect for the Jews he crushed in the 2nd Jewish rebellion. He also renamed Jerusalem as “Aelia Capitalina.”

            To further emphasize the lie inherent in the name “Palestinian,” it should be noted that the Philistines were Europeans from the Adriatic region, not Arabs.

            You love to go back in time to redress all wrongs you perceive against the Arabs living in Israel (there is no “palestine”), but don’t want to go back to where the problem began for the simple and obvious reason that it doesn’t support the Arab Muslim claims. You babble about “provenance” but haven’t established how far back that goes. You have established a vague time period for what you insist are legitimate claims on land, but no remotely convincing arguments, just your biased opinion.

            The Arabs that ended up living in Israel were there due to first Roman ethnic cleansing, then Muslim conquest, replete with the population thinning that traditionally accompanies Muslim aggression. How is that justified but not Israelis reclaiming their homeland? Better rev up your equivalency machine to rationalize that discrepancy, Or perhaps dial 1-800- Preparation H and see if Heiro can come to your badly needed rescue (he can’t).

          • Taimoor Khan

            Nonsense. Israel is NOT killing those who kill them, Israel is killing innocent men, women and CHILDREN DELIBERATELY. Israel is a baby-killer terrorist state.

            Also, the conflict is started by Israel since Israel is an occupying power.

          • Webb

            Paradise Virgin He-Goats for everybody!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Fascist HamASS purposely uses women and children as HUMAN SHIELDS.

            That is a War Crime. But Islamism is a Crime Against Humanity.

            See Syria, ISIS, Iraq, Afghanistan, Fascist Iran, Al Qada….

          • BagLady

            ” Fascist HamASS purposely uses women and children as HUMAN SHIELDS”
            You work on the premise that if you say something often enough it becomes true.

          • elixelx

            Jeez you sound like a terrorised little girl…and you should know!

          • BagLady

            Do the Palestinians have a navy, an air force, an army? Do not compare WWII with Germany and the anhiliation of a people armed with stones. ” Leave your homes immediately” Shouts the guy with the loudspeaker. 50,000 people run for their lives. Where should they go? Certainly not to underground bunkers, since they have none.

          • BagLady

            Your parents have a lot to answer for. Your manners are atrocious and you were clearly never allowed to lose at games lest you stomp your silly little feet.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Actually, same can be argued about Israelis more effectively. All Israelis are enrolled in army. They are all combatants. By your logic, all legitimate targets. Israel is a terrorist entity.

          • Drakken

            There is nothing more to talk about where you ragheaded savages are concerned, it is time to end your savage ways and end your so called religion once and for all time. Deo Volente!

          • truebearing

            Those babies are getting killed because the cowards in Hamas hide behind women, children, and babies, hoping those babies will die in the totally just actions taken by Israel.

          • BagLady

            Was Hamas in the ambulance blown to smithereens today? Were they hiding behind fleeing women being picked off by snipers? In the most heavily populated strip of land in the world, it would be hard to separate fighter from civilian. N’est pas?

          • elixelx

            All Israelis are enrolled AT AGE 18. Does that make Israelis
            NOT enrolled yet legitimate targets?
            Oh! and at what age are your babies “enrolled” in Shahida?
            Does that make your babies legitimate targets.
            Tell you what…let’s agree…
            We WILL take your babies away from you, as you try to take ours away from us…and we will give yours life, education, culture, couth…
            What will you give ours?

          • elixelx

            Yes, Israel is making mothers in gaza happy that their boys have accomplished what their mothers really prayed and hoped for…martyrdom.
            Of course if Israel did NOT do this the Arabs would bitch about how racist the Israelis are, not cooperating in allowing these boys to bacome martyrs.
            So we are damned if we give them martyrdom (which they want) and damned if we don’t give them martyrdom (racist!)
            Tee hee!

          • Webb

            Did you know — and this is true — that the arabs accuse IDF soldiers of being racist for not raping arab women? It cannot be made up. I guess that’s a more palatable explanation for it than admitting arab women are too ewe-gly to rape. They can’t fathom that Isreali soldiers don’t rape because their morals are so much higher than the muslims. They don’t have a western concept of morality. That is why Baggy would deeply regret going in among the Gazans — even on a day when they weren’t launching rockets. But wait, has there ever been such a day?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            BagLady is upset because even rapists shun her.

          • mackykam

            time for bag lady to be bagged and toe tagged.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Your types of Jews makes one think that Germans got some of you right.

          • Drakken

            Us Germans didn’t get it right, but where you muslims are concerned, we will.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Your type of muslim makes one thing that the retaliatory War on Islam is going to be decisive, and eternal.

          • BagLady

            You’re right. It’s racist twaddle.

          • Drakken

            There are no innocents in war that the arabs have started, AGAIN! The reason the cycle continues is because the Israeli’s allow it. The arabs no matter what, don’t want peace, never have wanted peace and never will give Israel peace, period and of story. The time is now to end this cycle of stupidity once and for all time, there is no substitute for Victory, and it is about bloody time Israel took off the kid gloves and pull on the mailed fist and start bloody well using it.

          • Americana

            If this concept of yours were true, Drakken, then the world should never have given in to the Jewish terrorists.

          • Drakken

            My concept works and if you side with the muslims, your an enemy as they are. Choose wisely for there will be no second chances.

          • Americana

            Don’t hoist your gun and threaten me w/choosing the right side! I just hope a few of the right calibre of Gandhis arrive on the scene and knock some sense in everyone who’s wearing body armor and thinking their “might makes right” is better than the other guy’s “might might make right.”

          • Drakken

            Might always makes right in the end, for to have peace, one must be always prepared for war, and in your bones you know this to be true, as for your buddy Gandhi, the Japanese would have sent his bullet ridden beheaded corpse down the Ganges river the minute he started his bloody nonsense.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The world should work together to rid the world of Muslim terrorists who have killed people all over the world.

            9/11, Londons 7/7/05, Boston Marathon bombing, Pan Am 103, Beslan, threats against the UK, beheading of Lee Rigby in the UK, Mumbai India massacre, Narobi Kenya mall massacre, Halabja Iraq poison gassing of the Kurds…

          • truebearing

            You oppose the creation of Israel, but try to pretend you don’t. Your lame false equivalencies between Israeli freedom fighters and Muslim terrorists are just one of the ways you expose your bigotry and loyalty to Muslims. The proof that Jews are not like the Muslims is apparent in many ways, but the most obvious one is that they have not conducted terror campaigns against anyone to get what they want, while the Muslims resort to terror like it is a bodily function. All of your incessant blather is refuted by this simple fact.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Jewish terrorists?

            What are Al Qada, Taliban, HamASS, Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbullah, Fascist Iran, ISIS, Boko Haram, Islamic Jihad?

            Use Google if you need help.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            See what I mean, she could give a crap about peace. All she cares about is vilifying and demonizing Jews like the vicious anti-Semitic bigot she is.

          • truebearing

            She’s a Muslim troll, and not a very good one.

          • Taimoor Khan

            You want genocide of Palestinian population? You can try it, there won’t be any Israel.

          • Drakken

            You ragheads really don’t know what is in store for you do you? Hint, it doesn’t end well for you and yours. Think Balkans on steroids that will make a Serb blush with envy. The one thing that us Europeans can be counted on and that is warfare.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Soon there won’t be any Mecca, Islamisbad, Karachi, Tehran, Qom, Baghad, Afghanistan.

            Your pals are making the unthinkable necessary.

          • BagLady

            I think we must add your name to the list of foul mouthed terrorists who call for the anhiliation of their fellow man: Boko Haram, ISIL, Fascists, Screw Socialism, Drakken et al.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Yes Drakken, but since TK wrote another 50 innocents have died.

            Sorry, you missed the boat again because you don’t have a fricking clue. There are no innocents in Islamic totalitarian society, as all Muslims, including women and children, are jihadists in one form or another, per the dictates of mainstream orthodox Islam.

            You are only transfixed on alleged terrorists, because they allegedly are only radicals and extremists that make up only a tiny percentage of Muslims. Nonetheless, you are wrong as always, because there are no radicals and extremist in Islamic totalitarian society because all Muslims in the world are jihadists in one form or another.

            Furthermore, even if you were correct and there were innocents in Islamic totalitarian society, the blood for their deaths would not be on the IDF’s hands. Instead, the blood for those deaths would be on the hands of those jihadists responsible for waging jihad against the infidels in Israel and that were also employing innocents as human shields. Your moral compass has obviously been destroyed via your strict adherence to moral relativism.

            Not to mention as well, the Geneva Conventions do not prevent combatants from retaliating in self-defense when the other side is using human shields to prevent attacks, because if it did, then everyone and their brother would also be employing human shields. Indeed, it would amount to incentivizing the use of human shields.

            Nonetheless, even as you are trying to vilify and demonize Jews for the death of alleged innocents, it is not hard to notice that at the same time you didn’t make it a point to also criticize the so-called Palestinian jihadists that are primarily targeting only innocent civilian infidels. So obviously it is easy to discern where you are coming from and that you are obviously just another mentally handicapped Jew hating bigot with no credibility whatsoever when it comes to Israel or with respect to anything else, for that matter.

            Is Israel accomplishing anything but more rage?

            Yeah it is. It is defending its national sovereignty and its people at the same time from the scourge of jihad. Meanwhile, even though you are too mentally deficient to realize it, the Islamic totalitarian world, which is waging jihad perpetually against the infidels in Israel through their proxy the so-called Palestinians, is also waging jihad against you and your fellow anti-Semitic bigots as well.

            Of course, it’s not your fault because you were inculcated by your public education system to believe that the Jews in Israel are terrorists because they had the audacity to resist British tyranny prior to the creation of the infidel state of Israel, exactly like the American revolutionaries also had the audacity to resist the tyranny of King George. The majority of you Brits are low life’s.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Every terrorist attack that Islamist execute across the globe creates more disgust and hatred of Fascist Islamism.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Israel is known as a terrorist entity around the world.

          • Americana

            Israel should not be seen as such, the reality is far more complicated than that. We need to be honest about the circumstances under which each side operates against the other. Let’s not vilify either side in an attempt to find solutions for this horribly complex human tragedy.

            It’s unfortunate Israel chooses to pretend it’s not like shooting fish in a barrel when they come into any of the Palestinian enclaves w/either weapons or troops. There’s really not any other “cover” in which the Palestinian forces can hide since there is NO forest cover and no vegetative cover in the country. Hiding inside the urban environment is basically their only choice. So it’s very disingenuous of any of those defending Israeli tactics to claim the Palestinians are using their own populace as human shields at all times. The Palestinians are sometimes doing so, sometimes not.

            What would the Israelis do under the same situation? In fact, this is exactly what the Israelis did in the Warsaw Ghetto and the other ghettoes that were overrun by the Nazis. Only trouble is, the Germans didn’t bomb the buildings in that instance of clearing the ghettoes and sending the Jews off to the concentration camps, they fought hand-to-hand to clear the buildings.

          • Drakken

            The reality is simple, it is pacifists like you who like to complicate things, those pali’s that you collaborate with, no matter what the Israeli’s do, want all the Israeli’s dead, but you in your little progressive pacifistic worldview think that if us westerners just try to understand and give the savages everything they want, they will leave us alone, you and other leftist of your ilk are wrong, dead wrong, fighting muslims is always without question solved through force of arms. As history has proved time and time again, but you refuse to see it because it disturbs your kumbaya worldview. You have been told time and time again that there will not be peace between the jews of Israel and the savage inbred muslims of Gaza or the west bank unless there is total victory, you just refuse to see things as they are and instead wish upon unicorns and rainbows for a peace that cannot ever be without Victory. Let it rain!

          • truebearing

            “We need to be honest about the circumstances under which each side operates against the other. Let’s not vilify either side in an attempt to find solutions for this horribly complex human tragedy.”

            You, be honest? You not vilify? What a laugh. That’s all you do. You attempt to vilify Israel for defending itself against relentless rocket attacks, kidnapped and murdered teens, etc etc. Only a complete hypocrite and moron would expect anyone to endure lethat attacks without effectivel retaliating.

            “In fact, this is exactly what the Israelis did in the Warsaw Ghetto and the other ghettoes that were overrun by the Nazis. Only trouble is, the Germans didn’t bomb the buildings in that instance of clearing the ghettoes and sending the Jews off to the concentration camps, they fought hand-to-hand to clear the buildings.”

            Your false equivalencies are getting more idiotic by the minute. The Jews in Warsaw were being exterminated in a cold, ruthless, systematic, genocidal attack. No one is exterminating Arab Muslims claiming to be Palestinians — a false national identity. The Israelis are attacking genocidal nutjobs, who are committing acts of terror on a daily basis, and exterminating them — hopefully all of them. Your comparison is beyond simple stupidity. It is rife with dishonesty and no small measure of self-delusion.

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            Of course, they have a choice. If they commit atrocities that they know will provoke an Israeli response, they can move their women and children to safe locations, while the men … if they are men … prepare to fight.

            They don’t do this, of course. Just as the Palestinians, as a whole, are a foil used by the “international community”, and other Muslim countries, to beat Israel over the head with, they use their women and children as human shields HOPING that the Israelis will strike, anyway, kill them, and they can use this fact to ratchet up international opposition to Israel.

            I personally saw this in Vietnam. I was as sniper, but was told to go along with a patrol to a village which was reputed to be a VC haven. As we approached, I told my spotter that I smelled an ambush coming, and our shave-tail Louie wasn’t experienced enough to see it.

            Sure enough, as we got to the southern edge of the village, we were fired upon by VC in the jungle, to the north. A classic firefight erupted, with the villagers in the middle. It was over almost as fast as it had begun.

            I swear to God that within no more than five minutes later, a truckload of “journalists” showed up, and the news opened, the next day, with “Innocents Caught in Crossfire”. They didn’t report that most of the dead and wounded were hit by 7.62mm rounds from Kalishnikovs and SKSs.

            Hamas wants news, and they’re using their own women and children to make sure that the “collective conscience of the world” is seared. Wake up and smell the marigolds … they stink to high heaven …

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Whenever there is a plane crash, an explosion, the first thought is another slamofascism terrorist attack.

            The missing MH370 passenger plane – gone, where? Pilot was a Muslim.

            Islam has a bad reputation that only Islam can fix.

            Khancer, you compound Islams bad reputation.

          • mackykam

            Israel: Striking fear in the hearts of cowering arabs everywhere. And who is causing that fear? The lowly Jews, LOL.

          • BagLady

            ” ….make it a point to also criticize the so-called Palestinian jihadists that are primarily targeting only innocent civilian Jewish infidels by raining down rockets continuously mostly on civilian areas of Israel….”
            Please update me. How many civilian Israelis have been killed so far this week? I was under the impression it was only soldiers, sacrificed to the g-d Natanyahu in the cause of Expansionism.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Please update me. How many civilian Israelis have been killed so far this week?

            Apparently, not enough for you.

            I was under the impression it was only soldiers, sacrificed to the g-d Natanyahu in the cause of Expansionism.

            Yeah Netanyahu wants to give Islam a run for its money in its long quest to take over the world.

            You know moonbat, I composed that post 9 days ago and long before Israel had even suffered the first casualty. Thus, you must have salivated profusely when those Israeli soldiers, including 2 Americans, were killed from a tank missile shot out of a window from a home allegedly belonging to a civilian.

            However, the reality is there are no civilians in Islamic totalitarian society as waging jihad in one form or another, either violently or non-violently, is a fundamental holy obligation incumbent upon all Muslims in the world, including women and children.

            Nevertheless, the so-called Palestinians, exactly like all Muslims throughout the world as well primarily target and murder innocent civilian infidels in cold blood per the dictates of Sharia. While at the same time Israel goes to great lengths to minimize casualties in what it ignorantly believes to be civilians. Not to mention as well, that those so-called innocents are actually waging jihad by volunteering to become human shields. Thus, the blood of the dead is not on the IDF’s hands. Instead, it is on the hands of Hamas.

            Your problem is your unhinged obsession with hating Jews more than you hate anything else has warped your moral compass. Plus you also live in a society that is filled with rabid Jew haters.

            You really are a sick obsessed Jew hating SOB, and what’s hilarious about it is the same Islamic totalitarian society that targets Israel also targets you, only you are too unhinged and too dumb to know it. Indeed, it sucks to be you.

            Of course, you were inculcated by the British education system to believe that Jews are terrorists because they had the audacity to rebel against British tyranny, the same way the American revolutionaries also rebelled against King George’s tyranny. So, right off the bat, you started off hating Jews from the get go and so, as a result, you ally with your enemies against what should be your allies because your hatred blinds you to the truth.

          • truebearing

            What do you propose they do? Hide in bomb shelters forever? Israel is being attacked by genocidal nutjobs. What part of that don’t you understand?

            Israel shouldn’t have allowed Hamas to get into Gaza inthe first place, but they were pressured into it. now they need to drive the palestinians out, or at very least Hamas. it is a matter of survival.

          • BagLady

            Is my television lying? Do my eyes deceive me? I suppose you’ll argue that those hospitals, schools, old people’s homes are all fake and are in reality just Hamas strongholds, full of weapons and tunnels. Not that it makes one iota difference since you’ve already declared even infants to be ‘terrorists’.
            No need to worry about criticism on here though. As you are well aware, the west will back whatever atrocities you commit because it’s money that counts, not human life.

            “….now they need to drive the palestinians out,” You mean ethnically cleanse the area. I believe that’s a crime against humanity. Something else you’ve no need to worry about, eh?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Taimoor, Your cult of death worship purposely uses children as HUMAN SHIELDS so your “leaders” can parade their bodies around.

            YOUR cult hides behind children.

            YOUR cult shoots girls in the head for wanting an education.

            YOUR cult brainwashes children to aspire to be “martyrs”.

            When YOUR death cult treats children as garbage, you lose your humanity.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The way Islam has killed 160,000+ in Syria over 2 years brings the claim that Islam is “the religion of peace” into question.

            Now we see ISIS executing fellow surrendered Muslims. It seems that Islam has a death wish, a desire to be laughed out of existence.,

          • Taimoor Khan

            That was wrong too.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Islamofascism is wrong too, but you don’t see the “majority” good Muslims denouncing HamASS, Al Qada, Boko Haram, Islamic JIhad, ISIS and so on – you brain damages jackazz.

          • truebearing

            The cowardly Hamas losers are hiding behind children, yet again.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Excuse of a terrorist Naz! state to justify killing children.

          • Drakken

            You effing savages deserve it, in spades.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Muslims kill children – to “honor” the prophet of Satan called Muhammed.

            The stoning of Muslim girls over “family honor” is such an example.

            When Muslims kill their own, that says a lot about Islam.,

          • truebearing

            No, it is the Muslims that adopted N azism. Persia was renamed “Iran” at the suggestion of the N azis. Iran means “Aryan.” The Baathists in Syria and Iraq were essentially N azis. Egyptians became N azis in fairly large numbers.

            You are filled with lies and insensate hate. You are basically insane with hate. You make no sense when you try to argue that Jews are N azis. It is beyond moronic.

            ISIS has murdered Christian children. The Muslim Brotherhood has done the same. Islam is evil. Reject and denounce your evil religion before it’s too late and become a decent human being.

          • Drakken

            It is too late, you cannot unfu** a thousand years of inbreeding, they must be dealt with the old fashioned way.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            terrorist Nazl state of Fascist Iran, Islamic Pakistan, Gazastan, ISIS califake.

          • Well Done

            Hey, Taimoor, you spiteful idiot, why do you blame Israel for fighting back? Why blame Israel for killing the children Hamas hides behind? Hanas has killed more “palestinians” than has Israel. Why doesn’t that bother you? As for torture, you won’t get the chance because your own people treat you like you are are a dime a dozen. You’re just another spiteful jigaboo.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Israel is NOT fighting back. Isabel is the aggressor. Israel is occupying power. Israel is illegally occupying Palestinian land, stealing Palestinian resources, oppressing Palestinians.

            You forgot all that?

            As for Hamas hiding behind children, bull. Israel oppresses a people, imposes embargo on them, steals their resources, does not let them form an army, and it complains about Hamas?

            Shame on you.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            Darn that Isabel. She’s always aggressing against the poor oppressed Sunni Muslim majority of the Middle East.

          • truebearing

            Isabel is at it again? She’s as bad as Jezebel.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Don’t forget Ferdinand.

            Actually Isabel and Ferdinand were aggressors as was Muhammed.. Screw all of them.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Israel is the aggressor?

            Israel is Al Qada, ISIS, Taliban, Boko Haram, Muslim Brotherhood, HamASS, Hezbullah, Islamic Jihad, PLO, Sadaam Hussein?

            Which madrassa did you go to?

          • truebearing

            The palestinians are squatters. They own nothing. they have no resources other than the money other nations give them. They produce nothing. They have no work ethic. Their economy is based on hate and violence.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Pakishtan is occupying Indian land.

            GET OUT OF INDIA!

          • elixelx

            Hey TK. Israel makes 100 mothers in gaza delighted that their babes are now martyrs, or at least that’s what the mothers say, and you are criticising ISRAEL for doing what these ululating mothers really really want for their beloved boys?
            What? do you hate Arab mothers so much that you would take away the single source of joy from their otherwise joyless lives?

          • Taimoor Khan

            Arab mothers also want Israelis like you dead. Will you respect this wish of theirs?

            :)

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Arab mothers want Infidels dead?

            Those Arabs mother will have to be satisfied with their dead jihadi offspring. A framed picture of muhammed on the wall of their hovel might be comforting.

          • Drakken

            Arab mothers first, you second.

          • elixelx

            Sure! you can try to kill ours and we WILL KILL yours…just stop bleating your goatlike naynay!
            But there’s one thing you left out…that it’s only ARAB(Muslime) mothers that want babies on BOTH SIDES to die so that they can be satisfied. Our Jewish mothers would rather the babies on both sides lived.
            Do you want me to send you a smiley with that thought?

          • ObamaYoMoma

            The way Israel has killed over 50 children in two days, the last thing you need to create “terrorists” is Hamas.

            Taimoor, you know more than me that all Muslims including women and children are jihadists in one form or another, per the dictates of Islam, and that serving as human shields, whether wittingly or unwittingly, is a form of jihad. So quit harping on about alleged Muslim children being killed in cold blood, because you are not garnering any sympathy at least from me.

            Moreover, dying while in the cause of Allah not only means those dead Muslims will get to bypass purgatory and proceed directly to Allah’s version of carnal paradise, but all those deaths are also celebrated in the Islamic community as well. As all those that died in the cause of Allah automatically become Shahids (saints). Thus, public buildings, schools, and streets will inevitably be named after them to memorialize their acts of jihad that led to their death.

            Not to mention as well, that the blood for any women and children killed, is not on the hands of the IDF, but on the hands of the so-called Palestinians in Gaza responsible for waging jihad against the infidels in Israel and using those women and children as human shields. Indeed, lives are cheap in the Islamic totalitarian world, since Islam like all forms of totalitarianism, is a form of collectivism.

            In addition the Geneva Conventions do not prevent combatants from retaliating in self-defense when the other side is using human shields to prevent attacks, because if it did, then everyone and their brother would also be employing human shields. Indeed, it would amount to incentivizing the use of human shields.

            Of course, because the Geneva Conventions are manmade laws as opposed to Sharia (Islamic totalitarian law), which according to Islam is divine law because it emanates directly form Allah, you don’t even acknowledge the Geneva Conventions existence, let alone adhere to them. Unless it is to attempt to spread propaganda about how vicious the infidel state of Israel is.

            While I will not kill an innocent since I am not a lowlife like Israelis, I will torture Natenyahu and all Israeli cabinet to death if given the chance.

            Actually, you are engaging in taqiyya (lying) again, Muslims don’t target and murder innocent civilian infidels in cold blood because they are terrorists. Instead, they target and murder innocent civilian infidels in cold blood because they are jihadists, i.e., Mujahideen (holy warriors), fighting a jihad, which is a holy war waged by all Muslims against all infidels in the cause of Allah to ultimately make Islam supreme throughout the world, and also because it is specifically proscribed for them via Sharia (Islamic totalitarian law) because targeting and murdering innocent civilian infidels in cold blood is the weak underbelly of the infidel world.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Son’s death was “best day of my life,” says Palestinian mother
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vi9oNs42hs

            May all Pal-e-SWINIAN brood sows have the same joy – of Eternal Nakba!

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Yeah I had seen that already and, of course, she waged her form of jihad non-violently by raising her sons to become loyal soldiers of Allah, i.e., Mujahideen (holy warriors).

          • Taimoor Khan

            You killed her baby, and you want to control her feelings too?

            Man, Hitler was right about some of you!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            She said the day her son died was the best day in her wicked life.

            Did she throw you candy? M&Ms? Mecca&Mecca?
            Andy sticks of dynamite?

          • Taimoor Khan

            Naz!s said that all Jews are criminal and should be killed because their scriptures Torah and Talmud teach them to hate Gentiles (non-Jews), feel superior (“chosen people”), and exploit the non-Jews.

            Why is your argument any different?

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Naz!s said that all Jews are criminal and should be killed because their scriptures Torah and Talmud teach them to hate Gentiles (non-Jews), feel superior (“chosen people”), and exploit the non-Jews.
            Why is your argument any different?

            Yeah…it is pretty damn different. Nazis were liars and haters exactly like Muslims. Thus, they made those things up not only to feed their unhinged obsession, but to also justify genocide and the mass extermination of Jews.

            The fact of the matter is that Jewish infidel society has produced 79 times more Nobel laureates relative to all of Islamic totalitarian society and that their per capita contribution is 9306 times higher relative to all of Islamic totalitarian society, Meanwhile, there are 158 Jewish Nobel Prize laureates in Physics, Chemistry, Medicine, and Economics compared to only 2 Muslim Nobel Prize laureates in Physics, Chemistry, Medicine, and Economics, even though Jewish infidel society is only a tiny fraction of the size of Islamic totalitarian society.

            Indeed, that astronomically humongous gap between Jewish contributions to the good of all of mankind relative to Islamic totalitarian society proves the lie to your false and intentionally devious allegations.

            Not to mention as well, but I bet if you were to closely examine those two Muslim Nobel Prize laureates, I bet you’d find that in reality they were really secret and silent apostates from Islam, as opposed to being actual Muslims. In other words, they were Muslims in name only since apostasy is a capital offense in Islam.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Hahaha! Now are you twisting.

            What if I call you liar like you call Naz!s liar?

            There were no Jewish Nobel Prize winner before 20th century. There is a political side to it but that’s another issue.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            There is a reason why Socialist SHlTler Mein Kampf is a best seller, that Muslims emulate the outstretched arm salute of Na zis.

            Google Images “arab na zi salute” and see for yourself.

            http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/NaziHamasHezbollahSalute.jpg

          • Drakken

            You Islamic inbreeding is manifesting itself, again! No wonder why you can’t bring yourselves into the 21st century since your mentality is still stuck in the 7th. And you truly believe you savages will win against us? Too funny!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            There were no Muslim Nobel Prize winners before the 20th century.

            But in the 20th century, Jewish Nobel Prize winners outnumber Muslim – despite the vast difference in populations.

            12,000,000 Jews compared to 1,400,000,00 Muslims.

            Makes you think – that Muslims are backward, uneducated, ignorant boobs.

          • mackykam

            That is absolutely correct, dumbass! Alfred Nobel first established the Nobel Prize in the early20th century, money he received from dynamite .

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Khancer siad:

            “Naz!s said that all Jews are criminal and should be killed ”

            Today Sand Na zi’s/Muslims say that all Jews are criminal and should be killed”

            Google Images “arab na zi salute”.

            http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/hezbollah_hamas_nazi_salute.jpg

          • Taimoor Khan

            LOL. And You say all Muslims are terrorists and should be killed?

            How are you different from Naz!s?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Not all Muslims are terrorists, just the “minority”, the 10%, the 140,000,000..vs. the 1,000,000 Good Muslims and the 6 Billion Infidels.

            That should put everyone at ease.

          • Drakken

            Derka Derka, in case you didn’t notice Haji, but those pictures are your fellow muslims, dumbazz.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists ARE Muslims.

            See 9/11.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Based on the pictures of Arabs doing Nazl salutes, we can conclude that

            Arabs = Nazls

          • Daniel Greenfield

            That’s also what Muslims believe…

            …so what’s your point?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Infidels are superior to jackazzs like you and your cult of death.

            May the Hindu army march triumphantly into Karchi!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I’d take an Israeli “terrorist” over one of your brother terrorists from Al Qada, ISIS, Taliban, Muslim Brotherhood, Hamass, Hezbullah, Boko Haram, PLO, PFLP, Islamic Jihad, Fascist Iran.

            Happy Eternal Nakba!

          • BagLady

            ‘.If Israel were to strangle Gaza, Hamas would get Obama and the EU to stop it.”

            Perhaps because you’re ‘not allowed’ to go around strangling people.

            Hamas would be dead in the water if there was a decent trading agreement between both sides that provided jobs for the people and a working infrastructure.

            If Fatah wasn’t just a patsy for the west, governed by self-seeking ‘politicians’ the Palestinians might have a sense of self.

          • Well Done

            Watch Israel strangle Gaza and West Bank.

          • Drakken

            Those islamaniacs will never give Israel any peace and you bloody well know that. Kill islam and they might have a chance, other than that time to bring General Sherman’s March to the Sea to bare.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            The trade and jobs stuff has been tried already. It doesn’t work.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            No Good Deed goes unpunished.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Yeah, trade of Israeli bombs to Gaza.

            That trade definitely doesn’t work.

          • Webb

            No Tami, 72 beautiful virgin he-goat wives to trade for your pitiful moosleem dirt life. You are lucky, Tami. It will work for you!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Looks like a picture of Muhammed.mugging for the camera.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            There’s still actual trade.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Israel sends food to Gaza because HamASS spends all its money on guns, bombs.

            Israel should treat Gaza like the Allies treated 1945 Berlin.

          • Drakken

            Quit firing rockets and mortars dumbazz and you won’t get bombed.

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          • Mladen_Andrijasevic

            Sill waiting for your answer on:

            If it is not about Islam what can you comment on

            Hadith Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177 which quotes the Prophet Muhammad?

            http://www.hadithcollection.com/sahihbukhari/85/3715-sahih-bukhari-volume-004-book-052-hadith-number-177.html

            Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”

            —-

            Well, one of the 2 Muslim Nobel Laureates in that list is Abdus Salam . What is your comment to the way he was treated in Pakistan?

            Why Abdus Salam, Pakistan’s great physicist, has been written out of history by his own country

            http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/robcrilly/100173926/why-abdus-salam-pakistans-great-physicist-has-been-written-out-of-history-by-his-own-country/

            In any other country his incredible achievements would be celebrated. In Pakistan, however, his memory is shunned. His gravestone has been altered so that he is no longer described as a Muslim and his house, bought by the government, stands unmaintained and forgotten.

            The reason is that Professor Salam was a member of the minority Ahmadi sect, a group persecuted by successive governments and condemned as heretics by even mainstream Muslims. In 1974, Benazir Bhutto’s father, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, passed a law declaring Ahmadis to be non-Muslims

        • Taimoor Khan

          The irony! The stinking irony!

          It was the West – namely Britain – who made you, who created Israel. It was Europe who dumped its “Jewish Question” on Palestine, and later US supporting Israel for its strategic interests and making it “win”, and you claim the other side not be supported?

          Let’s withdraw all support funding to Israel, all support of America to Israel – and peace will be delivered within months when the terrorist Naz! state of Israel realizes that it is alone up against scores of Arab states.

          That would be the solution. That’s why, the main criminal in Israeli atrocities against Palestinians is America.

          • SoCalMike

            No, let’s give them more offensive weapons to kill every single solitary HAMAS member.
            And no! Israel didn’t kill 50 innocent children.
            The pedophiles you support in HAMAS did by using using them as human shields.

          • Chavi Beck

            And by shooting rockets from their houses… Of which FORTY FIVE PERCENT fall short thank G-d. “what happens in gaza, stays in gaza” as I just read in a comment someplace lol. Who killed omar mishrawi in 2012? GOOGLE IT. Hamas that’s who. The truth will come out when this war ends.

          • Taimoor Khan

            The way you are killing women and children, time is not away when the right rocket will fall on the right place and will take away the terrorist entity.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Why Hamas is bad?

            Because it tries to kill Israeli civilians (who are reservists, btw)?

            But Israel does that much better against Palestinian civilians.

            Who is the biggest terrorist then?

            Israel.

            Israel is a terrorist baby killer. This will haunt it.

          • mackykam

            Israel fought against the arab states and ended up pissing all over them. Twice! And that was with the brits helping both Egypt and Jordan. Flying spitfires for Egypt and setting up the Jordan Legion. And then keeping the Jews from acquiring weapons. allah isn’t doing all that well against the lowly Jews, is he now? Maybe you need a new moon god? Arabs are only good fighters against their wives and daughters.
            Don’t you have an honor killing to attend to? I hear your son is sleeping with his mother and sister.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            mackykam AKBAR!

          • Taimoor Khan

            Arab ruled the world once, when it was man to man. Now even faggots can bomb from skies. LOL>

          • mackykam

            This is what passes for muslim intellectual discourse. Thank you for displaying it.

          • Webb

            Bang your head on the 21st Century Iron Dome, O 6th Century dirt squatter.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Arab ruled the World a long time ago, but Muslims began to fight with each other, as they do today in Syria, Iraq, and Infidels are the masters, Muslims the slaves.

          • Drakken

            Because your dumb inbred azz couldn’t invent an airplane and your upset about it, too funny. Look up in the sky Haji, maybe there is a drone with your name on it.

          • Drakken

            Coming from a paki inbred Wog like you, us westerners will take it as a compliment. Keep up the great work of pushing us westerners, it just makes the coming Crusades a closer reality. Deo Volente!

          • Taimoor Khan

            Why don’t come to Pakistan and start a crusade, coward?

          • Drakken

            I was in that cesspool pakiland more than a few times and Afghanistan, lots Haji’s are taking it from the devil himself as a result. The funny thing about you paki wog sons of whores, you never fight one on one, it is always a group activity.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Hindu India will take care of Pakishtan.

          • Shmalkandik

            You are mistkaen as to the consequence of US canceling aid to Israel. The US has been a constraint on Israe’s behavior for many decades. While there was a time Israel depended on the US for aid, that is no longer the case. Its increasing revenue in arms sales to India alone – over one billion i 2013 – will be the basis for replacing subsidies which only allowed Israel to purchase obsolescent technology. Israel’s technology industry is world class, and is successful despite any rhetoric about Middle East politics from its opponents.

            More over, Israel can then freely announce and deploy its nuclear arsenal – and use it.

            Israel is no longer on the dole from the US, and is now both politically and economically independent. That’s the game changer alot of people are missing when analyzing the possible impact of the US killing subsidies to Israel.

            Mid, I don’t disagree that many in the US are tired of the Middle East, and would gladly cancel transfer payments to Israel – and Egypt, and the PA, and every one else in that region.. Such a move would be much to Israel’s advantage.

            So I think your prediction of the impact on Israel of the US canceling its foreign aid to that country are incomplete.

            Oh, yes, by the way,

            Jahul Wagoni!

          • BagLady

            I think the sudden loss of $3.1billion pa in military aid would certainly have an impact on Israel’s economy.

          • Well Done

            No, baglady, you don’t think at all. You parrot stupidity handed to you by other stupid haters.

          • BagLady

            If I were to stop thinking for myself and ‘parrot’, I would use the words of the likes of Messrs Levine, Avnery, Pollack, Richman, Solomon and Cohen. All ‘self haters’ in your book but peace loving moderates in mine.
            What’s the score today? +700 and climbing. Benefit to Israel? Zilch

          • elixelx

            …not to mention having a detrimental effect on America’s defensive capabilities which that 3.1 goes a long way toward improving

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Nothing they couldn’t adjust to. Nonetheless, you can’t just stop that aid without at the same time also stopping all aid to Egypt as well, since that aid is a part of the 1979 settlement between Egypt and Israel thanks to Jimmy Carter. While Israel could fairly easily adjust to the absence of that aid, mass starvation in Egypt would be the result.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Can Israeli fight alone against Arab world and Iran, with Pakistan countering the nukes of Israel?

            No.

            It’s America which on whose shoulders Israel is doing atrocities.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Can Israeli fight alone against Arab world and Iran, with Pakistan countering the nukes of Israel?

            No.

            It’s America which on whose shoulders Israel is doing atrocities.

            Actually yes. The infidel left is very sympathetic to the so-called Palestinians because they are dupes, at the same time they are not nearly as sympathetic to the Arab world, the Iranians, and the Pakistanis. If they collectively make the stupid idiotic mistake of waging violent jihad against Israel, Israel will not be shackled the same way it is with respect to Hamas. It will unleash the full force of its military and summarily obliterate those forces combined in a small fraction of the time that it took to do it in the 1948-49 war.

            Not to mention that Shi’as in Iran would never join forces with the Sunni Arabs to fight against Israel in the first place. You are only dreaming. However, the Sunni Arabs, on the other hand, would join forces with Israel to counter Shi’a Iran. In fact, they are doing it already.

            Nevertheless, by all means, please feel free to fantasize all you want.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I trust India will take care of Pakistan..

            The US will take out Fascist Iran. It’s long overdue that Fascist Iran get whipped, flogged, stoned to death.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Taimoron,

            If Israel were “the problem”, then your fellow Koranimals would be living in peace with non-Jews/non-Zionists elsewhere in the world.

            But your death cult is at War with EVERYBODY.

            Islamofascism is at War with Bahais, Buddhists, Christians, Hindus, Jews, Zoroastrians and the wrong kind of Muslim.

            Your fellow koranimals don’t get along with fellow koranimals.

            Pakistain doesn’t get along with India.

            Your fellow koranimals waged an 8 year war between Iraq and Fascist Iran – 1,000,000 died.

            Tairmoron, you should get a job as a suicide bomb best test dummy.

          • truebearing

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          • Wolfthatknowsall

            I’ve been a fan of nuking Mecca for years. Let’s see whose god is God. If “Allah” cannot protect his holiest site in all of Islam, then he doesn’t exist. If the Kaabah is vaporized, the Muslims will go to war … all over the world. With each other …

            Judaism survived the loss of Solomon’s and Herod’s Temple. Christianity survived the Crucifixion of Christ. I’d bet that Islam would not survive the vaporization of the Kaabah.

          • Malik Obama

            As much as I would love to see those scum vaporized it is the kaba being destroyed is a sign of end times in Islam

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            It would signal the end of Islam.

            The Islamist world is target rich and it is unlikely that 1.4 billion Muslims would defeat 6 billion Muslims.

            Hey, 500 million Arabs can’t destroy 6 million Jews – so what chance do 1.4 billion savages have?

          • Malik Obama

            I never said I was against it.

          • truebearing

            It only survives now at the point of a scimitar. No other religion makes leaving the religion a capital offense. Islam operates like the Mafia, street gangs, and pagan cults.

          • Taimoor Khan

            It’s NOT about Islam here. Don’t try to mislead.

            It’s about land grabbing and occupation of Israel.

            Any religious angle to the barbarity is from Israeli side.

          • Mladen_Andrijasevic

            If it is not about Islam what can you comment on
            Hadith Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177 which quotes the Prophet Muhammad?

            http://www.hadithcollection.com/sahihbukhari/85/3715-sahih-bukhari-volume-004-book-052-hadith-number-177.html

            Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Barbarity? How many Jews are named “muhammed atta” or “saddam hussein” or “osama bin laden” or “muhammed” or “bashir assad” or “khomeni”???

          • truebearing

            Yes, it is about Islam and the brainwashed psychotics it breeds. Muslims grabbed land all over the Middle East, parts of Europe, India, etc. Islam is the only religion on earth that demands of its adherents that they grab all of the land on earth. You are a liar and a hypocrite.

            Nearly 100 million people were slaughtered by Muslims when they invaded India to grab land.

          • Americana

            Why on earth would the Muslims of the world “go to war against each other” if the Western world was the one to have destroyed Mecca? The Muslims of the world would then know exactly what the infidel world intends for them and their faith and it would be a world war… They might eventually get around to the Shia and Sunni internecine divide but the first thing they’d do is attack the West.

            Judaism survived the loss of Solomon’s and Herod’s temple because they were taken away as slaves. If the intention at that time had been genocide and the elimination of all Jews, there’d have been no survivors. Let’s not have this historical pretense of misrepresenting the accidents of history as being “God’s will” being done. Let’s realize that luck plays quite a large part in human history as well and let’s rely on the humans MAKING THEIR LUCK instead of relying on God’s largesse.

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            The Muslim world would go to war against each other because each sect and tribe would blame all the others for the loss of Mecca, and the Kaabah.

            You have to believe in God’s Will before you accept it. This is not meant personally against you. The Judeo-Christian West can accept accidents, floods, hurricanes, and so on, as natural occurrences. The Judeo-Christian West can accept war for what it is … the will of man.

            But Islam sees all occurrences as the “will of God”. All of them. Hurricanes, volcanoes, missing a human target, a weapon malfunction … whatever … it is the “will of God”. The destruction of Mecca would make atheists out of a large percentage of Muslims, and set the rest of them against each other.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            and their faith

            What are you smoking? Islam is not a faith, i.e., a faith-based religion. As a matter of fact, unlike in all faith-based religions, Muslims don’t have the freedom of conscience to choose to believe, i.e., have faith, or to choose not to believe, i.e., not to have faith. As in Islam all Muslims that choose the latter course not to believe, i.e., not to have faith, are automatically executed per the dictates of Islam for apostasy.

            Indeed, in stark contrast to faith-based religions, Islam is a so-called religion of submission, whereby all Muslims are forced to totally, completely, and unconditionally submit to the “will of Allah” under the penalties of death for apostasy and death for blasphemy.

            In addition, the “will of Allah” that all Muslims totally, completely, and unconditionally submit to under the penalties of death for apostasy and death for blasphemy, in essence is Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law.

            Thus, since there is no freedom of conscience for individual Muslims to make individual choices of their own as in faith based religions, and because all Muslims are forced to totally, completely, and unconditionally submit to the “will of Allah” under the penalties of death for apostasy and death for blasphemy, which in essence is Sharia (Islamic totalitarian law), then it can’t be any more obvious: Islam as opposed to being just a so-called religion, is actually an extremely rabid and draconian totalitarian cult that seeks world domination far more than it is a so-called religion.

            Indeed, in Islamic totalitarian society all non-conformers are routinely executed for apostasy and blasphemy per the dictates of Islam, very similar to the way the old Communist Soviet Union sent all non-conformers to the Soviet Gulags.

          • Webb

            And drop a sow teat into every gaping dead muslim mouth, for them to spit in the face of Allahole.

          • Taimoor Khan

            It’s better to nuke Israel. Just one nuke needed. Problem solved.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Israel is small, but Islamisbad is smaller, Tehran is smaller, Mecca is smaller, Cairo is smaller, Qom is smaller, Karachi, Lawhore are all smaller than Israel – and the Kabba is smallest of all.

            A handful of nukes and Islam collapses like muhammed.

            India hates Pakistan too – so Pakistan will be utterly destroyed.

          • Drakken

            You first Haji, your brethren second.

          • truebearing

            No, Israelis contribute valuable things to the world. how about Pakistan? It’s good for nothing.

          • Well Done

            Israel for Israelis. There has never been a “palestine”.

          • Taimoor Khan

            No, Israel is built on Palestine.

          • American Patriot

            The main criminals supporting Hamas/Hezbollah/Islamic Jihad atrocities against Israel are neo-Communist Russia, Communist China and Islamist Iran. Neo-Communist Russia also supports Communist China’s illegal military occupation of Tibet and the ongoing genocide of the Tibetan people. By the way, the United States isn’t Israel’s top overall supplier. The top two overall trading partners with Israel are neo-Communist Russia and India. Why do you support neo-Communist Russia’s aggressive foreign policy, you stupid Stalinist/Maoist Muslim monkey?

          • Taimoor Khan

            I hope Russian and China gain more power to effectively support Hamas.

          • Drakken

            The Russians and Chinese have zero problem with eliminating you Islamic savages en masse. So frankly speaking I wouldn’t be against the Chins pulling a Genghis Khan on you paki inbreds. The world actually would be a better place for it in the long run.

          • American Patriot

            I hope Russia would be governed by a pro-Western Yeltsin-like leader again one day. Or better yet, revive the Czarist government and have the country become a constitutional monarchy like the United Kingdom. Anyway, you Islamist monkeys will not win.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            It was Jews returning to Israel who created Israel

            British officers led the Arab legion that attacked Israel

          • Taimoor Khan

            LOL. If Britain didn’t want, no Russian Jew could set foot on Palestine.

            BTW, Palestinians are indigenous. Read genetic studies.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            Britain didn’t want. Jews came illegally.

            BTW Muslim conquerors and colonists are not indigenous

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The main criminal in Islamofascist atrocities against the entire world are Islamists and their useful Socialist Dhimmiwits.

        • BagLady

          “the First World nations have treated the Palestinian Arabs as children and thereby encouraged their behavior.

          I don’t come on here to be antagonistic but sometimes I can’t help it when I read such arrogant remarks.

          An innocent young boy of 16 was dragged off by a gang of thugs, had petrol poured down his throat and then burned alive.

          Please look to the behaviour of your own young people before condemning other cultures.

          • Well Done

            Please look to the behaviour of your own people, young and old, before condemning other cultures. Arabs are the dogs of the world. Their countries stink. They beat their women. They rape their children. They hate everyone. They stink up humanity.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Spoken like a Naz! about Jews?

            Man, Hitler was right about some of you.

          • elixelx

            You mean it wouldn’t have been so bad if your boy had merely been tortured and shot dead quickly, or had his head sawn off and been buried in a shallow grave a la our three boys?
            So you are saying that our three died good deaths while yours died a bad death?
            How twee!

          • Judahlevi

            You are right – murder is murder.

            The person you are responding to only cares about Palestinian Arab deaths, not Jewish ones.

            You will notice the three Jewish teens murdered were not even mentioned in her post. That says it all.

          • Taimoor Khan

            She cares about all.

            YOU care about only Israeli lives.

          • BagLady

            You might think it twee but I assure you there are ‘good ways’ to die and then there are very bad ones. Try asking the families of the passengers on Flight MH17.
            I saw no mention that ‘your’ boys were tortured. From what I read they were shot dead. My boy? My boy did not die. The lad belonged to some other parent not moi.
            The depth of ones grave is of no importance once one is gone.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            Netanyahu didn’t drag off a 16 year old boy

            the same can’t be said for Hamas or the PLO

          • Taimoor Khan

            Netanyahu has done worse. He has administered the killing over 150 Palestinian civilians, mostly women and children.

            Natenyahu is a war criminal.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            Netanyahu responded to an act of war.

            Compared to every Muslim leader, he would be in line for a Nobel Peace Prize…

            … and you know it.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            muhammed was a war criminal – and a pedophile.

          • Drakken

            Before condemning Israel maybe you should see what your fellow inbred paki wogs do on a daily basis in that cesspool of humanity called Pakistan.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            I don’t come on here to be antagonistic but sometimes I can’t help it when I read such arrogant remarks.

            In fact, that is the only reason you come to this American website, in the first place, to be antagonistic and primarily to feed your own unhinged obsession with vilifying and demonizing Jews, which taints and fully contaminates your entire worldview and everything you do. You’re not hard to figure out. Indeed, your posts is an open window into your dark soul, into what makes you tick, and into what your motivations are. Indeed, you’re an open book!

            An innocent young boy of 16 was dragged off by a gang of thugs, had petrol poured down his throat and then burned alive.

            First of all, because that so-called Palestinian boy is a member of Islamic totalitarian society, like all Muslims throughout the world he too was a jihadists, as all Muslims in the world are jihadists in one form or another, either violent or non-violent. As a matter of fact, the only way for Muslims to reach Allah’s rewards is through waging jihad. Thus, there are no innocent civilians in Islamic totalitarian society, as every Muslim in the world is a jihadists in one form or another, i.e., a combatant in one form or another. So get over yourself.

            Nevertheless, those Israeli thugs responsible for his murder are guilty, and they are guilty because they took the law into their own hands to effect retaliation for the cold-blooded murders of those three Israeli teens. Indeed, it was an act of vigilante justice, and for that those Israeli thugs will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and they will be. Indeed, they will all get their comeuppance.

            Meanwhile, had the situation been turned around with that so-called Palestinian boy somehow managing to murder those Israeli thugs in the same manner instead, on the other hand, that so-called Palestinian boy in Islamic totalitarian society would have instantly become a shahid (saint). Indeed, he would have become an admired and revered hero in the Islamic totalitarian world. Far from being prosecuted and punished as those Israelis inevitably will be, he would have had public buildings, schools, or streets named after him to memorialize his valiant acts of jihad in the cause of Allah. Indeed, he would garner special privileges set aside by Allah for all Mujahideen (holy warriors).

            As a matter of fact, there are no laws contained in Sharia (Islamic totalitarian law) to punish such jihadists, as Sharia (Islamic totalitarian law) to the contrary obligates all Muslims to wage jihad against all infidels in the cause of Allah to ultimately make Islam supreme. Thus, far from being punished, they are rewarded instead.

            Yet, to your own detriment and to feed your own unhinged obsession, you come here and you post ONLY to vilify and demonize Jews, because you are a vicious anti-Semitic bigot!

          • Drakken

            The fact that as an English woman suffering a severe case of Stockholm Syndrome from your paki wog classmates that abused you, why am I not surprised that you openly side with the very savages that want your kind killed or converted. In case you got your timeline a little confused, it was 3 Israeli’s that were killed by your favorite humanitarian pastime, support and Quisling collaboration with those bloody savages, the lesson is very simple, if you don’t want none, don’t bring none.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          If allowed to run it natural course without interference, the Arabs would have made peace decades ago. They would not have had a choice – they lost.

          The problem with your analysis is you don’t have an issue with Arabs. Instead, you have an issue with Muslims, because the Islamic totalitarian world through their proxy, the so-called Palestinians, is waging a perpetual jihad against the infidels in Israel to not only make Islam supreme in the infidel state of Israel via the imposition of Sharia (Islamic totalitarian law), but to also subjugate the infidels in Israel into Islamic totalitarianism, i.e., harsh and degrading dhimmitude.

          As a matter of fact, according to the dictates of Islam, the only peace that can exist between infidels and Muslims is the peace that comes only after Islam has been made supreme via the imposition of Sharia (Islamic totalitarian law) and only after the infidels have been subjugated into Islamic totalitarianism, i.e., rendered into harsh and degrading dhimmitude.

          Israel’s biggest problem, however, is the Islamic totalitarian world is not only waging jihad against the Jewish infidels in Israel, but is also waging jihad against all infidels and all infidel states throughout the world.

          Thus, even if Israel decided to wipe out the Islamic totalitarian world’s proxy, i.e., the so-called Palestinians, it nonetheless would not end the Islamic totalitarian world’s jihad against the infidel state of Israel, as it would simply be reconstituted again, because the sole fundamental purpose of mainstream orthodox Islam is to become supreme throughout the world.

          For this reason, no infidel state can act alone individually to successfully end the perpetual jihad being waged against them and all infidels and all infidel states throughout the world. Thus, the only solution to this manifestation will require the collective action of the entire infidel world acting together as one to end the perpetual global jihad being waged against all of them by the Islamic totalitarian world.

          The only other alternative is to adjust to a life with a perpetual jihad being waged against us. Of course, one of our biggest problems currently is most infidels and most infidel states don’t even realize that a jihad is being waged against them thanks to the prevalence of non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad, which relative to the manifestation of violent jihad, is astronomically far more prevalent today and in which also represents an exponentially far greater threat for the infidel world at large relative to violent jihad.

          Indeed, violent jihad is easy to detect and relatively easy and straight forward to counter. Non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad, on the other hand, is hard to detect without a lot of education. Meanwhile, the Left is branding all people sounding the alarm as being Islamophobes.

      • Sheik Yerbouti

        I wonder if the world realizes these are not Qassams running on chicken shiite and sugar. These are factory-made missiles.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          The great thing about HamASS is that its actions prove the folly of a Pal-e-SWINE carved out of Israel.

          Every second counts – so distance = time to run for shelter and time to intercept the incoming missile.

          DEATH to HamASS and Fascist Iran!

        • truebearing

          There is little evidence that the world cares…but they will when it is their turn to be relentlessly rocketed.

        • BagLady

          Precisely. So far they have claimed not a single life. Is this due to the ineptness of the shooter or all part of the ‘game’?

          I believe Hamas is being cautious not to bring the full force of the IDF down on the people. Netanyahu is posturing on the border threatening death to the ‘terrorists’. He knows he walks a fine line between what the world will accept and what will outrage it. The toll stands at 100 – 0 at the moment. This figure is acceptable to Israelis and also the West apparently — more media coverage has been given to the World Cup than the goings on in Israel.

          It would be easy-peasy to wipe the Palestinians from the map but then Israelis would have to live with the shame for generations, and most could not accept that.

          Slowly slowly catchy monkey seems to be the long term plan.

          • Well Done

            Odd that you speak of “wiping palestinians” from the map. No Israeli has ever said that, baglady, so you’re a liar. On the other hand, Arab subhumans vow to wipe Israel from the map. So, try to think for a minute. Why do you speak of “wiping palestinians” from the map? Does that allow you to pretend that is what Israel wants? Your mind is silly putty.

          • Judahlevi

            The leftist trolls have made common cause with the Muslim jihadists. The person you are responding to would also try to justify the 9-11 attacks and say the US deserved it for mistreating Muslims.

            3,000 dead Americans, or three dead teenage Israelis murdered in cold blood means nothing to them. They don’t even bring it up in their talking points. Only the West, the US, or Israel can do wrong. Muslims are perpetual victims not matter how many people they murder.

          • elixelx

            Sure, 400 rockets a day keeps Netanyahu in check…401 will make him absolutely go bat-shite crazy!
            So you wouldn’t mind if a murderer just kills 5 of your kids so long as he lets number six live?

          • Taimoor Khan

            What about Israelis murdering Palestinian.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            BagLady, If you go to Gazastan, you can make the tally 101 – 0.

      • BagLady

        I heard Syrian weapons. Not Iranian.

        What’s Dimona doing there anyway? Has it had the UN Weapons Inspector there lately? Do you have ‘permission’ to hold nuclear weapons? Can you be trusted never to use them? Pah!!!

        • reader

          “Do you have ‘permission’ to hold nuclear weapons? Can you be trusted never to use them? Pah!!!”

          It’s just mind boggling – coming from a useless troll with evidently mediocre IQ and cosmic ignorance of history and geography, who thinks that the virtue of being English gives her the right to condescend.

          • Taimoor Khan

            What an idiotic comment.

        • Well Done

          What are you talking about here, dimwit?

        • elixelx

          yes as we know Syria has a magnificent arms-producing sector. All Iran does is supply the muzzles, bolts, triggers, and bullets,
          yep, Syrian, not iranian!

    • pekin

      You are spot on and IF the US had a different Prez, I believe things would be quite different…WE MUST STAND TOGETHER!!!

    • Me

      Thats a fair point, and the US should also stop subsidising Israel too and you’re unsustainable economy will collapse and without any friends in the Middle East perhaps, the two state solution won’t be necessary!

      The US and EU should stop interfering in Middle Eastern affairs, vetoing UN resolutions against Israel is counterproductive. International (I use the term loosely) interference is far more favourable to Israel then it is to the Palestine’s. I say interference, it’s more like economic and military scaffolding for the state of Israel!!

      • Drakken

        Well by golly, why don’t you come on over here and put your money where your mouth is and join those poor oppressed pali’s, or your a typical leftist who is all mouth and no action.

    • BagLady

      Do you understand anything about International Law or do you see yourself as above it?

      I am aware of starvation as a weapon of mass destruction but it is generally frowned upon by those that moved on from barbarism …..The likes of which have been revisited on us in recent weeks by both sides.

      What are y’all teaching your young folk out there in the outposts?

      • Well Done

        “Y’all”? What a laugh? You idiot! As usual, those invoking “international law” care the least about it. Israel is not using starvation. Barbarism is firing rockets from civilian areas and shooting any civilians who try to leave. You’re incoherent. Y’all.

        • Taimoor Khan

          What about Israeli occupation?

          Barbaric Israel is occupying Palestinian land, stealing resources, oppressing, and when the oppressed fires a weak rocket, it starts massacres using an excuse?

          • Webb

            Welcome to 21st Century, Tami! Weak moosli fire weak rocket. Better take cover quick.

      • elixelx

        Frowned upon? FROWNED UPON?? THAT is your reaction to the barbarism your buddies, the Muslims, regularly practice?

        • Judahlevi

          Leftist trolls are not concerned about the deaths of Israelis or Americans, only Muslims.

          Muslims are their perpetual ‘victims’ and anyone they murder deserves it according to their irrational logic. Since they are perpetual victims, they never start anything, they are always responding to oppression.

          They have joined forces with the Muslim jihadists and will only be upset with Muslim deaths, not American, Israelis, or any other free western country.

        • BagLady

          Still stronger condemnation than you ever get from the UN and the White House who only ever manage a quiet tut and call for ‘restraint’, unlike Putin who faces immediate heavy sanctions for the drunken behaviour of neighbouring Cosacks.

      • Drakken

        So called international law carries no weight and has no enforcement methods other than a few cross words. We are sovereign citizens of sovereign countries, under our own rules, not world citizens. Half azzed measures are just not going to cut it where the muslim arabs are concerned, time to bring back and dust off the total war playbook.

      • Daniel Greenfield

        no one is starving in the five-star hotels of Gaza

        you could check into them if you don’t mind the lack of liquor

        • Taimoor Khan

          What about 150 killed?

          • Webb

            What about 72 virgin he-goat reward? Who get that for them?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            150 pawns get 72 virgins each.

            That how you turn Bitter Lemons into Nakba-ade.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            Don’t shoot rockets at Israel. And you won’t get bombed

    • ObamaYoMoma

      By the US and European Union subsidizing the Palestinian Arab population and treating them as ‘victims’, they financially support their hate of Israel and Jews.

      What you are failing to realize, or otherwise failing to acknowledge, however, is Israel’s problem is far more extensive than just the so-called Palestinians, as the so-called Palestinians are in reality the proxy of the Islamic totalitarian world, and the Islamic totalitarian world, besides the infidels in Israel, is also waging jihad perpetually against all infidels and infidel states throughout the world.

      More than a military victory, an economic one will do – but only if the West bows out of the situation and allows the Arabs to bear the real-world consequences of their policy of hate by themselves.

      We can all easily agree that the US and the EU’s aid and assistance to the so-called Palestinians is incredibly counterproductive. However, if the US and the EU suddenly decided to abruptly end all aid and all assistance to the so-called Palestinians, it would still not end the Islamic totalitarian world’s permanent jihad being waged against not only the infidels in Israel, but also against all infidels and all infidel states collectively. Nonetheless, it would at least be a step in the right direction.

      When the food runs out, they will negotiate.

      Muslims can’t make permanent peace agreements with infidels under any circumstances. Instead, they can only make Hudnas, i.e., temporary truces that they will inevitably break when they deem the time is right.

      As a matter of fact, according to the dictates of Islam, the only peace that can exist between infidels and Muslims is the peace that comes only after Islam has been made supreme via the imposition of Sharia (Islamic totalitarian law) and only after the infidels have been subjugated into Islamic totalitarianism, i.e., rendered into harsh and degrading dhimmitude.

      Thus, any Muslim that signs a blasphemous permanent peace agreement with infidels, as Anwar Sadat did back in 1979, will inevitably be targeted for assassination and assassinated the same way Anwar Sadat eventually was. Of course, in the case of King Hussein’s infamous act of blasphemy in 1994, he died of cancer before he could be assassinated.

  • truebearing

    A sobering analysis, because while it clearly delineates the current situation for Israel, it predicts the eventual fate of all non-Muslim nations.

    “You have three choices. 1. Destroy the terrorists. 2. Live with terrorism. 3. Give in to the terrorists.”

    Yes, those are the choices, but number 2 and number 3 are just different phases of the same outcome. It comes down to deciding whether you will let your enemies choose your destiny or you will choose your own. Your enemy will choose your death, and so will you if you accept option 2 or 3. Only option 1 affirms life, justice, and self-determination.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Essentially yes, you’re on the defensive, you’re reactive, it’s just a question of the scale of the surrender

      • truebearing

        Israel’s choices are of the “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” variety. If the rest of the non-Muslim world had the IQ of a fruit fly, or some moral courage, they would realize that they will face the same treatment someday and start supporting Israel. Muslims always behave best after being thoroughly drubbed, so drubbings they should get.

        • Taimoor Khan

          Nazis thought the same about Jews and gave them a “good drubbing”, is that right by your logic?

          Because whatever happened to Germany, Jews are behaving themselves at least in Europe. They only become macho against helpless Palestinians.

          • reader

            “Because whatever happened to Germany, Jews are behaving themselves at least in Europe.”

            And islamonazis aren’t. You said it, man. They need to be treated as the Allies treated Dresden to behave.

          • truebearing

            Muslims are just dumber N azis. They have the same deranged mentality, only Muslims are several notches lower on the IQ scale. Maybe that is the result of Muslims breeding with animals.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            I don’t recall Germans being a minority invaded by a Jewish majority

        • Daniel Greenfield

          The original Muslim conquest happened because of divide and conquer

      • Taimoor Khan

        Occupation is reactive?

        100 people killed in last 2 days is reactive?

        It’s massacre. It’s terrorism.

        Try to unearth the humanity within you that you have buried deep.

        Try to see the conflict from Palestinian side too. You can do it if you try.

        • Drakken

          You don’t know what a massacre is, I for one side with western civilization over you inbred effing wogs, you whine and cry like a little bitch when a western hands you your collective inbred azzes. As long as you and your kind perish before mine, I am all good with it.

          • Taimoor Khan

            You racist chicken sh!t, you told me you worked in Arab countries. Could you say that on any Muslim’s face? I bet you will be beaten to a pulp and rightly so – you disgusting shameless racist and hater.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Taimoron, Don’t you have a suicide belt to test?

          • Webb

            Suicide jockstrap keeps Tami high and tight til the moment is right.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Do you have a bomb to kill palestinian children in your home?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            HamASS has bombs to kill Pal-e-SWINIAN men, women and children in mosques, hospitals, schools and HamASS homes.

            Why do you ask?

          • Webb

            Do you have 72 virgin he-goats in your home? And a hole bowl?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “Do you have a bomb to kill palestinian children in your home?”

            No. Go ask HamASS for that.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “Do you have a bomb to kill palestinian children in your home?”

            No. Ask Hamass. They have many in their Ministry of Propaganda tunnel.

          • Well Done

            Sure, yes, any dozen Arab hand-wipers could be up a guy who insulted them. Too bad they keep picking fights with Israel, though. All the Arabs do then is whine about how badly they are losing. WAY too stupid.

          • Drakken

            You can call what ever you like for it is immaterial, typical muzzy behavior, it is amazing how fast it stops when you butt stroke the first one that gets a little too froggy, the rest fall into line in very short order. You effing savages never fight one on one, it is always in groups. I am far from racist, I am a western culturalist and a realist. So I have little time and very little patience dealing with inbred dreck such as yourself, a bullet between the eyes always solves problems like you. If you feel that your family honor is at stake, I am very easy to find, just look for the Prussian flag and the very loud music at noon prayers.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Khancer, The sidearm is mightier than the crazed Islamofascist.

        • Webb

          No, as Palestini I am trying to catch my 72 virgin he goats, but they run from me here in Moosleem Paradise. This is not so good.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          100 dead koranimals is the result of your death cult thinking it can attack and not be punished.

          100 people would still be alive if Hamass was dead.

          And why would you care if 100 koranimals are dead? Your death cult thinks they will be rewarded with 72 virgins, so according to your death cult religion, your 100 dead koranimals are having a great time.

          What’s keeping you from your 72 virgins?

          • Taimoor Khan

            Israeli OCCUPATION causes the conflict.

            When will you understand that?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Islamofascist OCCUPATION of land causes conflicts all over the world.

            That’s why Arabs/Muslims kill Arabs/Muslims in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Lebanon, Turkey, Algeria, Pakistan and Eurabia.

          • Webb

            Tami’s bowel is too occupied! You must relieve it Tami or you will explode before your time!

          • Drakken

            It is after man/boy love Thursday after all.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Islamist OCCUPATION of Infidel land causes conflicts all over the world.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Illegal Islamofascist OCCUPATION causes conflicts all over the world.

        • truebearing

          Only 100? That isn’t enough. Maybe it will pick up.

          Hopefully,Israel will unleash a major attack that will annihilate many Muslims.

          Now run back to your camel.

        • Well Done

          I see the conflict from the “palestinian” side. I see “palestinians” hiding behind civilians. I see “palestinians” killing “palestinians” who don’t agree with them. As you probably don’t care, the commonly accepted rules of war allow combatants to be targeted regardless of who they hide behind. The war crime is done by Hamas hiding behind civilians, not by Israel targeting combatants who hide there.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          160,000+ arabs killed by fellow arabs is not reactive, but typical.

    • Leah

      I choose to side with destroying the terrorists!

    • El Cid

      History repeating itself. The Muslims will not yield except in death. The Spanish finally figured that out in the 15th century.

      Any respect Western leaders show Islam is misunderstood as cowardice.

      This is no different from Hitler’s Germany. There could be no accommodation with the Nazis. You could not “contain” the Nazis. There can be no accommodation with these Islamic Supremacists.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Islamofascists have already killed 160,000+ in Syria.

        Islamists are at war with EVERYBODY.

      • Taimoor Khan

        So you propose killing all Palestinians?

        Israeli Nazis – the abused child who becomes a serial killer once grown up.

        • Drakken

          Your lucky that I am not n charge, for there wouldn’t be one fakestinian left to object.

          • Taimoor Khan

            You are also lucky that I am not in in charge. You will be left to live with wild dogs so that you learn the importance of humanity.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Defeating Jihad, Hamass, Hezbullah, Al Qada, Boko Haram, Muslim Brotherhood, Taliban ain’t genocide.

            Arabs killing 160,000+ Arabs in Syria is genocide.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Don’t confuse.

            Israel is occupying Palestinian land. That’s the difference b/w above organizations and Hamas, which is resistance org.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I like resistance – resistance to Islamofascism, Al Qada, ISIS, Muslim Brotherhood, anyone named Muhammed.

            More power to OUR Resistance!

          • truebearing

            The Muslims deserve it. That is how it is different.

          • hiernonymous

            TK: So you would commit genocide? How is that different to what Nazis did to Jews?

            TB: The Muslims deserve it. That is how it is different.

            And people wonder why I think it worth the time to challenge the broad demonization of Muslims that is done on this site. You just made clear the end result and the purpose of such dehumanization.

            So the Muslims deserve to be exterminated en masse, eh? The problem with taking men, women, and children to camps to be starved, abused, and murdered was not that it was wrong per se, but it was done to the wrong population?

            I never thought you were the sharpest knife in the rack, but ethically, I thought you were misguided, not actually evil. Did you actually mean what you just wrote?

          • truebearing

            Having a Muslim troll bring up the N azis is pretty cheeky, given that nazism was adopted by many Muslims in the Middle East and is still a strong influence today. Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, et al have repeatedly called for genocide against not only the Jews, but every race and religion on earth. They adhere to an evil religion, that you are apprently too stupid to recognize. The Muslims deserve the fate they intend to inflict. Those who live by the sword, die by the sword. Is that simple enough for you?

            As for your opinion on who is the sharpest knife on the rack, we already know that you think it is yourself. Your hubris is boundless. Since evil is essentially ego unbridled, you better start looking into the mirror if you want to figure out who is evil. No doubt you spend plenty of time looking at mirrors already, so you won’t have to go too far out of your way.

            As usual, your comment is retaliation for our recent debates where you failed rather miserably. Nothing upsets you more than having your delusions of grandeur disrupted.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            truebearing AKBAR?

            Yes.

          • hiernonymous

            “As for your opinion on who is the sharpest knife on the rack…”

            Quite right, that comment stepped over the line. It’s one thing to point out that a comment is stupid, but I shouldn’t have taken that next step. It was a cheap shot and I apologize.

            “Those who live by the sword, die by the sword. Is that simple enough for you?”

            Quite plainly, most Muslims are not “living by the sword,” so that’s a pretty weak rationalization for a comment that is silly at best. I don’t reflexively throw around terms like “evil” as a verbal tic, as some others are wont to do, but if advocating genocide doesn’t qualify, that doesn’t leave much that does. When you reach the point where you’re openly advocating genocide, you should probably think about what you’re saying and why you’re saying it.

            “As usual, your comment is retaliation for our recent debates where you failed rather miserably. Nothing upsets you more than having your delusions of grandeur disrupted.”

            Now that was the most useful part of your post. If you hadn’t told me, I wouldn’t know about these failures, or about how upset I am about them. Do keep me posted.

          • truebearing

            The leaders of the palestinians are advocating genocide against Israel. Iran wants to destroy Israel and the US, not to mention the rest of the non-Muslim world. Why aren’t you condemning them, or Taimoron? Murderers are put to death for their crimes. Islam is a cult of murderers. There is no reasoning with these people.

            For once, I will agree with you on one thing. Most Muslims aren’t devout enough to wage jihad, but a high percentage support jihad against Israel and the West. They are also not courageous enough to stop fellow Muslims from their evil quest. Many Germans died in WWII who weren’t hard core N azis, but they went along with the evil for selfish reasons, or simply chose to live in denial. You ride with ‘em, you hang with ‘em. That is war.

          • Webb

            En masse.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            hiero, You are needed in Gazastan. They need you to be a Human Shield. And bring your friends and family along.

          • hiernonymous

            My family lived with me in the Middle East. They traveled with me in the West Bank.

            Should I take your post to mean that you agree with TB that Muslims deserve to be subjected to genocide?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            But you are needed in Gazastan. Hamass needs more useful idiot infidels.

            You and your family stand on the roof and embrace Nakba – while the rockets and mashaal are safe – for the moment.

          • Drakken

            Love us and ours, fu** them and theirs, it is really quite simple. Obviously you empathize and sympathize with the muslims.

          • hiernonymous

            “Love us and ours, fu** them and theirs, it is really quite simple. ”

            Yes, if you can’t break free of a tribal mentality. It’s possible to love us and ours without validating it by hating them and theirs.

          • Drakken

            We are all tribal when it comes right down too it. You of all people should know that. I might be mistaken, but it would seem that the diversity and multicultural virus has taken hold with you. War is coming with a vengeance and you of all people should see it coming, so it will be a question of us and them as it has always been.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Which tribe, the sunni, shiite, hamass, fatah, salifi, wahabbi, genocidal socialist?

          • Taimoor Khan

            I don’t take these people seriously. I play with them. They are fringe element.

            However, Islamophobia does need to be tackled as racist Zionists and Muslim-haters advocate that Hitler did wrong only because it was against Jews. That’s why they condemn any critic of Israel as Jew-hater. That needs to change.

            That’s why, Holocaust remembrance should include different genocides, including massacres of Palestinians, not only WW2 one.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Khancer, End your racist and illegal occupation of Indian territory.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Nazis thought so too.

            How is it different?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Arabs and Nazis think so too.

            How are they different?

          • Webb

            Wild dogs will leave moosleem crap piles for Tami to step in with his worn out car-tire sandals made in Mecca.

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            I’m fairly certain that people in the West do not need a lecture by a Muslim on the importance of “humanity” …

            Is there anything that Muslims do that you would consider “inhumane”? Female genital mutilation? The “marriages” of little girls to 60-year old pedophiles? Endless tribal wars and mass beheadings? Hangings of homosexuals? Cutting off the hands of thieves? The stonings of prostitutes?

            What, exactly, is humane about the whole rotting carcass of Islam, that we in the West should emulate?

            I have one answer to that question. We could emulate Islam’s ruthlessness. If you wish to call that “genocide”, go ahead. What’s in a word? …

          • Taimoor Khan

            Drop that us vs them mentality.

            Drop that group think. Talk about yourself. You are not your society.

            Embrace humanity.

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            Embrace humanity the way Muslims have embraced it?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Islam has distanced itself from Humanity.

          • Webb

            Embrace goat, Tami.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            When are Muslims planning to embrace humanity and allow non-Muslims into Mecca?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Liberate Apartheid Mecca!

          • Drakken

            There is you and your 4th world inbred savages and us westerners of the 1st world, so there is no “we” there is yours and then there is mine. Soon that difference will be extremely apparent.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Us, Infidels, versus Islamofascists.

            6 billion humans versus 1.4 billion savages.

          • Drakken

            Funny how when you ragheads are losing, that you call it genocide, but when, your winning it isn’t. I call it what it is, warfare, you bloody muslim savages keep pushing the infidel, and sooner or later our wrath will be sung around 10,000 campfires for a thousands years. God Bless the Crusades, another one is coming.
            Muslim and humanity in the same sentence is an oxymoron, where ever islam goes, the blood always flows without exception. No more islam no more problems.

        • Webb

          How else to give them 72 he-goat virgins they so richly deserve? I love Palestini! Taimoor too!

          • Taimoor Khan

            Just like Nazis gave Jews quick ride to their Yehweh?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Just like the US and UK gave 1945 Berlin a reason to surrender, unconditionally.

          • Taimoor Khan

            US and UK and USSR, not any Jewish state.

            You relied on other powers to save your backside, while you don’t want the same for Palestinians?

            Hypocrites.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Now there is a Jewish state, that can defeat sand nazl terrorist entities.

            Happy Eternal Nakba!

            End the Pakishtani occupation of Indian land!

          • Webb

            Just like — only faster. WHOOF!

          • elixelx

            You’ve let the dogs out now, buddy! I hope they’ve made you Haram!

        • UCSPanther

          Palestine ain’t gonna survive the 21st century…

          • Taimoor Khan

            Oh yes, this is Zionist intention from the start – to occupy whole Palestine while genociding or expelling its population – proving Zioinists were never interested in peace.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Israel expelling Arabs?

            It’s been 66 years, and Arabs still live in Israel and their population is growing.

            That’s some “ethnic cleansing”.

            If you want to see REAL ethnic cleansing. Look at Pakistan.

          • Taimoor Khan

            I am talking about Palestinians.

            Also, Arab Israelis face discrimination. Arab Israeli men can’t even marry Jewish women!

            Racists.

          • American Patriot

            Wrong! There are many Arab men who marry Jewish women in Israel. Meanwhile, Non-Muslims are not even allowed to set foot in Mecca and other Holy cities of Islam. That’s religious apartheid. Why don’t you condemn that, fool?

          • truebearing

            You idiot. Hamas started the attack. How stupid are you?

          • Taimoor Khan

            Israel is occupying Palestinian land. Israel is in breach of international law already.

            Isn’t occupying power the offender?

            How old are YOU?

          • truebearing

            What you mistakenly call Palestine is really named Israel. The roman emperor Hadrian purposely renamed it as an insult to the defeated Jews, but it was still Israel. Learn some history before you babble.

            I have a better question. Why are you always wrong?

          • hiernonymous

            http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/meteorology.2.ii.html

            This is Aristotle’s treatise on meteorology. I invite you attention to the portion in which Aristotle wrestles with the reasons the sea is salty:

            Again if, as is fabled, there is a lake in Palestine, such that if you bind a man or beast and throw it in it floats and does not sink, this would bear out what we have said. They say that this lake is so bitter and salt that no fish live in it and that if you soak clothes in it and shake them it cleans them. The following facts all of them support our theory that it is some earthy stuff in the water which makes it salt. In Chaonia there is a spring of brackish water that flows into a neighbouring river which is sweet but contains no fish. The local story is that when Heracles came from Erytheia driving the oxen and gave the inhabitants the choice, they chose salt in preference to fish. They get the salt from the spring. They boil off some of the water and let the rest stand; when it has cooled and the heat and moisture have evaporated together it gives them salt, not in lumps but loose and light like snow. It is weaker than ordinary salt and added freely gives a sweet taste, and it is not as white as salt generally is. Another instance of this is found in Umbria. There is a place there where reeds and rushes grow. They burn some of these, put the ashes into water and boil it off. When a little water is left and has cooled it gives a quantity of salt.

            It would seem that attributing the term to Hadrian leaves something out.

            “Learn some history before you babble.”

            Always sound advice.

          • elixelx

            …and of course if we Israelis allow “palestine” to exist and become more powerful there would be only love and peace emanating from Jericho…proving that palestinians were only EVER interested in peace…!
            What a schmuck you are!

          • Taimoor Khan

            MORON, you are occupying Palestinian land, killing Palestinians, women and children, in the ASSUMPTION that ending that will not make more peaceful?

            Sorry for the temper, but your logics are effing barbaric.

          • elixelx

            nincompoop! you think giving hamas weapons and free passage into israel would STOP the killing of Jews?
            You HAVE urine logic and shiite for brains

          • UCSPanther

            The only things the world ultimately respects is strength and cunning. Palestine has neither.

        • SoCalMike

          Just the Jew-hating Palestinians and the ones who strap bombs on their children and send them into crowded pizzerias and such.
          Did you know inbreeding causes genetic and mental deformation and handicaps??
          You might wanna spread the word back home.

          • Taimoor Khan

            LOL! Jews are one of the most inbred populations with their own diseases and mutations!

            Do you have any shame? These were the same arguments used by Nazis against Jews. They laughed at Jews for their big noses and ears, calling it the result of inbreeding.

            You Israelis behave like that sick psychopathic criminal who was abused in childhood but grew up to become an abuser himself. You repeat things against Palestinians what Nazis said about you. Pity.

            BTW, if Israeli military kills children and women, what do you expect in return? There will be people who will sacrifise their life to hurt Israelis. It’s nothing to do with hatred. It’s to do with REVENGE.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Every population has diseases and mutations. But you as an uneducated inbred Muslim wouldn’t know that.

            Why do Jewish Nobel Prize winners outnumber Muslim Nobel Prize winners? Inbreeding has taken its toll on Muslim intelligence.

            Why do Arabs have big noses and big ears? Did illiterate muhammed have a big nose and big ears and a tiny brain?

            Muslims kill people all over the world, and you want to shift the blame to Jews?

            When Arabs/Muslims kill men, women and children, some with poison gas, some with beheading, some by stoning, some by shooting, stabbing, the worlds view of Islam is very low.

            Does it bother you that Israelis, small in number, are more powerful and productive than 1.4 billion Muslims? It should. But don’t blame Israel. Blame yourself.

          • Taimoor Khan

            I only blame Israel for killing Palestinians, and occupying Palestinian land. Not other things.

            Won’t let you run away from the issue at hand.

          • truebearing

            Have you looked at the Muslim population lately? LOL. There are genetic traces of goats and camels.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Just like Pigs in Jewish population?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Neturi Karta or Socialist, regressive progressive pigs?

          • Drakken

            That is why it is rather amusing to feed your kind to the pigs.

          • Drakken

            So please tell us Haji, how is your 1st cousin/wife? Or your uncle dad or aunty mom? You and the rest of your inbred filth are living on borrowed time here in the west. The day is coming soon where we will purge every last one of you inbred savages from our midst.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Why don’t you start, coward? Take on a Muslim in your neighbor. But I know, you will tremble to death before you even think about this!

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Why don’t you start, coward? Take on a Muslim in your neighbor. But I know, you will tremble to death before you even think about this!

            Uhm…Taimoor, Muslim migrants to the infidel west avoid infidel neighborhoods like the plague. Instead, they first form Muslim enclaves that in time inevitably morph into Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia, i.e., tiny Islamic statelets within the greater host infidel states. As a matter of fact, a few years ago the government of France counted in excess of 700 Muslim no-go zones in France alone.

            Thus, obviously mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage to the infidel west in reality is really a form of stealth and deceptive non-violent jihad for the nefarious purposes of mass Muslim infiltration of our societies and for eventual demographic conquest, and as soon as this manifestation becomes more widely known, the sooner mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage will be banned and reversed.

            Indeed, Muslims never ever assimilate and integrate into infidel societies, because to do so would require them morphing into infidels. Meanwhile, Muslims morphing into infidels is a capital offense in Islam.

            Indeed, once the first infidel state bans and reverses mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage, which is inevitablle in only a manner of time, then it will quickly mushroom into an avalanche of mass deportations of Muslims throughout the infidel world, and once that Pandora’s box has been opened, the Islamic totalitarian world’s global jihad at large will rapidly wither on the vine.

          • Drakken

            Talking out of your azz because your mouth knows better huh Haji, funny thing is, when faced one on one you savages grovel at my feet and will lick my boots not to get a kiss from a rifle butt. So come on over and join your jihadist cause, I need the target practice.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Khancer, Your Taiqyya is showing,.

            Muslims kill Muslim children and blame it on Israelis.

            No wonder Islam is held with such low respect.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Just the Pal-e-SWINIANS who voted for Hamass, who celebrated 9/11, who are pro-suicide bombing, who indoctrinate children to hate Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Bahais and the wrong kind of Muslim..

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Arab/Muslim Sand Na zis – the bully who was defeated by a little kid wearing eyeglasses.

        • truebearing

          The Muslims are the ones who integrated Nazism into Islam. The abused Muslim child becomes a serial killer, but never grows up.

          You have it all backwards, but then again, you are a Muslim.

          • Taimoor Khan

            No, Zionism integrated Nazism.

            Israel is a Naz! state.

            BTW, you are ingrates. Muslim saved Jewish backsides in the Middle Ages when Spain was burning Jews and some Jews escaped to Ottoman Empire.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The mutations of Islam have aligned with Na ziism.

            The savages destroying Islam today are working every second to trigger the collapse and defeat of Islam.

            Today not even Muslims are safe from Islam. See the 160,000+ dead in Syria – (that’s Arabs/Muslims killing Arabs/Muslims).

          • Daniel Greenfield

            Muslims forced Jews to convert to Islam in Spain before the Inquisition…

            Learn history

          • Drakken

            Thank God(not allah) that Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand kicked the muslims out of the Iberian peninsula for otherwise Spain would still be in the dark ages and a cesspool of filth and squalor like the rest of the filthy muslim world.

          • truebearing

            You are completely off your rocker. Virtually nothing you write is true.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Khancer is engaging in Taqiyya.

        • Mladen_Andrijasevic

          Abused child? Could you comment on what Muhammad said:

          http://www.hadithcollection.com/sahihbukhari/85/3715-sahih-bukhari-volume-004-book-052-hadith-number-177.html

          Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”

      • Drakken

        Well if the muslims won’t yield, I say give them the death they desire.

      • elixelx

        Cid, the Arabs, Muslims, will NEVER learn from History, because there is NO History before Muhammadman and only Muslim History after!

  • guest

    The really good wars are fought for a moral principle.

    And that’s what’s missing. There’s no moral outrage
    by the Israelis or anyone really about what the palestinians are doing
    or for that matter the entirety of islam.

    The Texans didn’t chase the Comanche down and destroy their
    entire culture because they were afraid of being attacked.

    They did it because they recognized the Comanche were evil,
    uncivilized warriors, that would never change.

    There was always a choice. That’s what morality is for.

    If you’re not outraged by the children with their vests, the kidnapping,
    the missiles, the inconvenience. Maybe you don’t have bad morals,
    you might not have any.

    There should be no more palestinian births, they’ve lost the right. All the hate schools, all the warriors, all the cleric mouthpieces, should be destroyed.
    Along with all the leadership. This is a culture that long ago deserved to not exist.

    Religious morality is useless, because ultimately it’s arbitrary, which means it’s pure emotion. Look at the rage filled muslim and the mentally inert Israeli. Neither one is really sure about anything, anything moral.

    The Israelis pointlessly bomb empty buildings. They’re not sure about killing, they were taught thou shall not kill and were told it was on a magic stone tablet.

    Life on earth is the moral standard. Living on earth as human beings, not as viscous savages endlessly at war.

    Comanche was loosely translated as ‘those who always fight’.

    The price for not understanding these things is to endure a wasted life as a jihadi and the life of his victim. The Israelis and the palestinians are two sides of the same coin.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      There’s moral outrage, but once the peace process began, the premise that we were the good guys fell apart. And then we had to cling to the moral high ground of being willing to make peace which is a suicide pact.

      A sense of national morality should be based on national defense, not on national surrender

    • Wolfthatknowsall

      As an aside to what you said about the Comanche, I am one-half Comanche, and “the people” … the Comanches are almost unique in calling themselves by a name other than “the people” … left the reservations late in the 19th Century, and early in the 20th Century. They assimilated into American culture and language, and thrived. Some of America’s fiercest warriors were Comanche.

      You might find the following website, and the article, interesting:

      http://www.badeagle.com/2012/11/12/a-comanche-veterans-day-2012/

      • truebearing

        Excellent article. Comanches have been quite successful in this culture, said to be the best educated of all tribes. Perhaps that is a result of the legendary Comanche courage. Too bad our worthless president doesn’t have some Comanche in him. There certainly isn’t any iron in his words.

        • Wolfthatknowsall

          Someone once called me a “mud person”. I merely laughed at him, and I guess that he thought better of assaulting me … though I’m not a big guy.

          As for the the first “half-white President” … this phrase really irritates the Left … the only “courage” he has is to write executive orders that violate the law, hiding behind the protection of the Attorney General. But I think it’s all about to catch up with him …

          • truebearing

            A “mud person” as opposed to his pure genetics? A lot of people would be surprised at what their DNA would reveal.

            Yes, the Left can’t make their racism narrative work when confronted with Obama’s racial identity. At best they can only accuse his detractors of being half-racist.

            I hope it catches up with him very soon. maybe we’ll get lucky and Holder will drop dead, leaving Obama without his firewall.

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            Drop dead, soon? That would be a good thing …

            Obama, however, would merely appoint another toady to protect him. It would be great if he tried a recess appointment. After the recent SCOTUS decision, to even attempt that would be an impeachable offense. I rather think that he would pick an interim AG (someone who would protect him), and just not bother with an actual nominee.

    • Drakken

      It is a very simple equation, no more muslims = no more problems.

  • Mladen_Andrijasevic

    I think that Daniel Greenfield is wrong this time. Israel is aiming for Choice No 1 or at least a very strong version of Choice 2. i.e. “They are being carried out to degrade its military capabilities which will buy a year or two of relative peace.”

    Here is why:

    The reason Israel must destroy Hamas this time is Iran

    http://www.madisdead.blogspot.co.il/2014/07/the-reason-israel-must-destroy-hamas.html

    As Matthew Kroenig so brilliantly proved in his new book A Time to Attack: The Looming Iranian Nuclear Threat, the United States MUST attack the Iranian nuclear facilities if diplomacy fails. But Obama is quite reluctant to do even that which is imperative for the US. So it leaves Israel. The retaliatory strike that will follow an Israeli preemptive strike on Isfahan, Arak, Natanz and Qom will come from Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas. Israel has to get rid of the Hamas component in the Iranian retaliation. Israel has to neutralize Hamas NOW so that its part of the Iranian retaliation will not exist when the time comes to attack the Iranian nuclear facilities.

  • Elliott

    As a resident of Israel, with no means of contacting the MSM (and having my wishes agreed to) is there anyone in the States (e.g. Ted Cruz, Alan Dershowitz, David Horowitz ??) who can persuade / arm-twist the DAILY READING, at the beginning of every 7 o’clock News broadcast, of the HAMAS Charter?
    This Charter, published way before the current GAZA “Government” was democratically elected (in 2007, if I remember correctly), was voted for by the residents of Gaza. This means, CATEGORICALLY, that ALL who voted for HAMAS voted FOR ITS CHARTER. By reading excerpts of the Charter, EVERY MORNING, on US radio / internet, the voters in the US will have a much clearer picture of why Israel has to DESTROY HAMAS NOW. This may include many (regrettable) civilian fatalities, but if HAMAS fires rockets at Israeli civilians, it must accept the consequences.

    • http://www.chaverimisrael.org Norbert Haag

      Actually a great idea,yet instead starting with the MSM start with the low hanging fruits i.e. the small rest of conservative Media.

      If the MSM starts spitting venom abut it they start bringing it t the attention of a wider public.

    • Webb

      Sadly, the Controllers of all the 7 o’clock News broadcasts here are a law unto themselves and they hate Israel. Even if they say they don’t hate Israel, they still hate Israel more than they don’t hate Israel. It’s only common sense. That’s why what is happening in Israel is happening. There is no other logical reason. The trick of the News Controllers is to make Israel think Israel is better off being manipulated by the US, than being controlled by itself. Daniel addresses the games of the terrorists. But the game of the News Controllers is to give Israel false hope and then betray Israel. The only reason the US helped Israel during the Yom Kippur War was to keep 13 Arab cities from being nuked.
      And don’t kid yourself, Israel is betrayed in order to eventually destroy Israel. You are a victim of the slow bleed, crying out for justice. Every time Israel takes military action against Gaza you feel the false hope that this time something will be done. But then you get betrayed by a new ceasefire agreement which means nothing to your enemies. Mark my word, after this conflict dribbles to a halt, Lurch will be back saying, “See what I told you? Now we must roll up our sleeves and you Israelis must make very painful concessions in order to keep this from happening again.” And Israel will lose more of its national integrity and its will to prevail, while the left will gain from those Israelis who will go over to Lurch’s camp after having their nerves frayed and rattled from this bout of rockets. Terrorists work like demons at their craft, and they are persistent, and infinitely patient. Time is your enemy. The longer you let a terrorist live, the more time he has to destroy you. You personally are mired down in the false hope that the News Controllers will help you. They are your enemy and you are willingly giving them time to kill you.

      • pekin

        Sad deal, isn’t it….

      • Americana

        What’s happening in Israel is because there was a ridiculous decision made that then spawned a whole sequence of ridiculous decisions. Someone could undo the sequence of ridiculous decisions but the honesty has to be there.

        • Drakken

          Yeah that peace thingy is really working out for you isn’t it?

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          You sound like you have rabies – and passed it on to the rescue dogs.

        • American Patriot

          Oh my god, Moronicana has returned to post more nonsense. Maybe you should marry Taimoron Khan. The two of you look like you could be a good couple to each other.

    • pekin

      Elliot; If Only OUR Media was NOT controlled by the Left and Our prez.. Stand Strong!

    • Taimoor Khan

      So you will kill innocent Palestinian children because of Hamas charter?

      Then, can we kill all Jews for violence in Talmud and Torah (those books actually teach you to be callous to Gentile, but that’s another point)?

      Should US TV (already criminally soft on Israel) broadcast violent statements from Torah, Talmud and extremists Jews organizations to show what Jews believe in?

      Would that be any different from what Nazis did?

      Are you then any different from Nazis? Shame on you.

      Israel is in breach of international law for its occupation and illegal settlements and stealing of Palestinians resources and oppression against Palestinians.

      ICJ has condemned Israel on above counts.

      That makes Israel an official culprit.

      • Drakken

        If your in the West Haji, get the fu** out, soon, you won’t be given a choice. I could bloody well care less what happens to those pali’s, when they start wars, don’t come crying to us infidels for sympathy, for we are all out.

        • Taimoor Khan

          We’ll see who survives in west. Meanwhile, the war is started by Israel.

          Israel is the occupying power, illegally occupying Palestinian land in breach of UN resolutions.

          This is criminal.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            War is waged by Islamofascism today – all over the world.

            See the 160,000+ dead in Syria. That’s Arabs/Muslims killing the wrong kind of Arab/Muslim.

            And Jews were in Israel BEFORE your pedophile bandit muhammed came on the scene in the 7th century – or are you ignorant of your own religion?

          • Taimoor Khan

            Talk about Israeli occupation, PHULEASE !

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Let’s talk about Islamist occupation of Infidel lands.

            The US is holding Israel back. I wish it wouldn’t.

            Thankfully India is in a position to punish Pakistan if Pakistan misbehaves.

          • Drakken

            Your mistake is that you take the West’s kindness for weakness, well Haji, those days are coming to an end, the day is rapidly approaching where you and your kind will be fleeing the west for your very lives, soon the west isn’t going to care what kind of muslim you are, for we will no longer care for the only good muslim is a dead muslim, the coming purge will make a Serb blush in envy. Deo Volente!

          • Taimoor Khan

            You are a genocidal maniac. You will get yourself killed if you don’t control your anger.

            How can you hate 1.2 billion people you never met?

            You should be locked up for the safety of society!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Genocidal maniac named “muhammed” the prophet of Satan?

            How can 1.2 billion savages think they can defeat 6 billion humans?

          • Drakken

            Anger no, just cold, harsh Teutonic logic.

      • Webb

        Pallies are killing Pallie children because of Hamas charter. Do the young ones also get the 72 virgin he-goats? They would probably trade them for sweets, eh? Fill your pockets with candy in hopes of obtaining more he-goats, Tamioor.

      • Mladen_Andrijasevic

        Taimoor Khan Maybe you could answer me something. How do you explain to yourself the fact that Muslims have contributed so little to humanity, compared to the Jews? Just look at the figures:

        The Nobel prizes in Literature and especially Peace have recently often been awarded out of political considerations. To exclude any possibility of political bias, i.e. if we exclude these categories altogether and leave just Physics, Chemistry, Medicine and Economics, we can roughly compare the contribution of Jews and Muslims to civilization. There are 158 Jews and 2 Muslims in these 4 categories. There are 13,746,100 Jews in the world and 1,619,314,000 Muslims. So Jews have 79 times more Nobel laureates in these 4 categories than Muslims with 117.8 times smaller population, i.e. their per capita contribution is 9306 times higher. This is three orders of magnitude! So religion does seem to be relevant.

        There are 158 Jewish Nobel Prize laureates in Physics, Chemistry, Medicine and Economics, they are:

        Chemistry

        Sidney Altman, Christian Anfinsen, Adolf von Baeyer,Paul Berg, Herbert Brown,Melvin Calvin, Martin Chalfie, Aaron Ciechanover , Walter GilbertFritz Haber,Herbert Hauptman,Alan Heeger, Avram Hershko , George de Hevesy, Roald Hoffmann Jerome Karle, Martin Karplus, Aaron Klug, Roger Kornberg , Harold Kroto, Robert Lefkowitz , Michael Levitt, Rudolph Marcus , Henri Moissan,George Olah, Max Perutz, John Polanyi, Ilya Prigogine, Daniel Schechtman, Irwin Rose, William Stein , Otto Wallach, Richard Willstatter, Arieh Warshel Ada Yonath

        Physics

        Alexei Alexeevich Abrikosov, Zhores Alferov ,Hans Bethe, Felix Bloch, Niels Bohr, Max Born, Georges Charpak , Claude Cohen-Tannoudji, Leon Neil Cooper,Albert Einstein, Francois Englert, Richard P. Feynman, James Franck , Jerome Isaac Friedman, Dennis Gabor , Murray Gell-Mann, Vitaly Lazarevich Ginzburg , Donald Arthur Glaser, Sheldon Lee Glashow , Roy Glauber, David Gross , Serge Haroche, Robert Hofstadter, Brian David Josephson, Lev Davidovich Landau, Leon Max Lederman, David Lee,Gabriel Lippmann, Albert Abraham Michelson , Ben Roy Mottelson, Douglas Osheroff , Wolfgang Pauli, Arno Allan Penzias, Martin Lewis Perl, Saul Perlmutter, David Politzer,Isidor Isaac Rabi, Frederick Reines, Adam Riess, Burton Richter , Arthur Schawlow, Melvin Schwartz , Julian Schwinger, Emilio Segrè, Jack Steinberger, Otto Stern, Steven Weinberg , Eugene Wigner

        Medicine

        Richard Axel, Julius Axelrod, David Baltimore,Robert Bárány, Baruj Benacerraf, Bruce Beutler, Konrad Bloch, Baruch Blumberg , Sydney Brenner, Michael Brown , Ernst Chain,Stanley Cohen, Gerty Cori, Gerald Edelman, Paul Ehrlich ,Gertrude Elion,Joseph Erlanger , Andrew Fire Edmond H. Fischer, Robert Furchgott, Herbert Gasser,Alfred Gilman , Joseph Gold stein, Paul Greengard , Robert Horvitz, Francois Jacob, Eric Kandel, Bernard Katz, Arthur Kornberg , Hans Adolf Krebs, Karl Landsteiner , Joshua Lederberg, Rita Levi-Montalcini, Fritz Lipmann, Otto Loewi, Salvador Luria, Andre Lwoff, Ilya Ilyich Mechnikov , Otto Meyerhof, Cesar Milstein , Hermann Muller, Daniel Nathans, Marshall Nirenberg, Stanley Prusiner, Tadeus Reichstein , Martin Rodbell, James E. Rothman, Andrew Schally , Howard Temin, John Vane, Harold Varmus, Selman Waksman, Ralph Marvin Steinman, Randy W. Schekman,George Wald , Otto Warburg, Rosalyn Yalow

        Economics

        George Akerlof, Kenneth Arrow , Robert J. Aumann ,Gary Becker , Peter Diamond, Robert Fogel , Milton Friedman, John Harsanyi , Daniel Kahneman, Leonid Kantorovich ,Lawrence Klein , Paul Krugman, Simon Kuznets , Wassily Leontief , Harry Markowitz , Robert Merton , Merton Miller, Franco Modigliani , Elinor Ostrom, Alvin Roth Herbert Simon , Paul Samuelson ,Myron Scholes, Robert Solow, Joseph Stiglitz

        There are 2 Muslim Nobel Prize laureates in Physics, Chemistry, Medicine and Economics, they are:

        Chemisty

        Ahmed Zewail

        Physics

        Abdus Salam

        • Judahlevi

          It is an excellent question – which you will not get an answer to.

          Some people would rather stew in their hate than accomplish something good with their life.

          • Taimoor Khan

            I gave him an answer. Read it.

          • Judahlevi

            That’s not an answer to the question asked.

            Try again.

        • Taimoor Khan

          First of all, Muslim Golden Age contributed immensely to humanity and lead to European emergence.

          But even if one accepts your argument for a second, one can say Africans contributed very little to humanity while whites contributed a lot.

          One can say aborigines contributed almost nothing to humanity compared to other peoples.

          Can you treat them any different?

          “Contributions” is a relative thing and it has to do with history, circumstances, climate, etc.

          You can’t deny someone’s humanity based on scientific contribution.

          I for one argue that Israeli Jews have given new meaning to inhumanity in their treatment of Palestinians, just like Nazis did with their treatment of Jews (although scale is different).

          So it’s not iPhone that matters and its inventor, the issue is much deeper than this.

          • Mladen_Andrijasevic

            Well, one of the 2 Muslim Nobel Laureates in that list is Abdus Salam . What is your comment to the way he was treated in Pakistan?

            Why Abdus Salam, Pakistan’s great physicist, has been written out of history by his own country

            http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/robcrilly/100173926/why-abdus-salam-pakistans-great-physicist-has-been-written-out-of-history-by-his-own-country/

            In any other country his incredible achievements would be celebrated. In Pakistan, however, his memory is shunned. His gravestone has been altered so that he is no longer described as a Muslim and his house, bought by the government, stands unmaintained and forgotten.

            The reason is that Professor Salam was a member of the minority Ahmadi sect, a group persecuted by successive governments and condemned as heretics by even mainstream Muslims. In 1974, Benazir Bhutto’s father, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, passed a law declaring Ahmadis to be non-Muslims

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Muslims led to European emergence… and Europe outpaced Islam, leaving backward Islamist entities in the dust. Now Asia outpaces Islam too.

            The only thing Islam provides the modern world is – Islamofascismphobia and the need for checkpoints at every airport in the world – to avoid another 9/11, Pan Am 103, sneaker/underwear/surgically implanted bomb, bomb plot,

          • Webb

            Nope Tami, it is the parasites vs the producers, and the parasites get used for fish bait. And your people are the parasites. You be de bait, Tami.

          • Drakken

            There was never a golden age in islam, you inbred savages lived off the fruits of the infidels labors and then had the audacity to claim credit for it. It is because of you muslims we had the dark ages. I hope the Israeli’s finally wipe you out to the last man, then the Israeli’s will have peace. Islam is a blight on humanity and has been since the devils profit came crawling out of the desert and screwed his first 9 year old. Where ever islam goes, the blood always flows, without exception.

          • Taimoor Khan

            LOL! Islam took you out of from dark ages.

            BTW, Muslims will also take you out of your misery too. Try it.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Today Islam drags the world back to the 7th century.

            Muslims inflict pain and misery on Muslims. Syria and Iraq and HamASS and Fascist Iran exemplify the failure of Islam.

            Sunni, Shiite, Salifi, Wahabbi? They agree on one thing. Murder and mayhem of innocents,

          • ygalg

            islam only leads to the dark ages, not out of it. unless you apostatized. hopefully for you, you’re not a Muslim. the DNA theory you cling to, in contradictory with islam. DNA theory if true, proves islam a lie. then again, no need for DNA theory. islam is self discriminatory on its own.

          • Drakken

            You goddamn savages brought us to the dark ages wog, imagine where we would be if islam didn’t exist?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Socialism as also been a retrograde force on the world.

            That’s why Socialists side with Islamofascist and the odd marriage of the Red/Green Axis of Evil.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Muslim Golden Age contributed immensely to humanity and lead to European emergence.

            Whatever you are smoking, please send me some.

            The Muslim Golden Age is a myth. Muslims never created anything of value because they are incapable of creating anything of value thanks to Sharia (Islamic totalitarian law). Not only that, but more than anything else, Islam is an extremely rabid and draconian form of totalitarianism that seeks world domination, as opposed to being just a so-called religion. Thus, like all forms of totalitarianism, it is a collectivist society and all collectivist societies are failed societies.

            What they did instead was steal the credit from the infidels who actually were the creators. As a matter of fact, all Islamic totalitarian societies are parasitic societies in nature. Islamic totalitarian societies don’t work or produce anything the same way infidel societies do. They feed off of infidel societies. Not to mention as well, that until very recent times they also exploited slave labor. In fact, without infidels they are completely incapable of producing the oil that generates the revenues that fund their own global jihad.

            It’s pretty pathetic and also fairly easy to combat against. Simply ban and reverse all mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage ASAP, then abandon the Islamic totalitarian world and isolate it, and in a matter of time Islamic totalitarian society and, indeed, their global worldwide jihad will simply die on the vine.

          • ygalg

            there were few in spite being muslims able to contribute, not due islam, as islam has zero to contribute in that respect. knowledge those muslims have based on Greeks materials. here account of golden age of islam, year 1090, 4000 jews being butchered by muslims.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Even the incorrectly named “Arabic Number System” was developed by Hindus.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          Well, while I’m not ole Taimoor Khan here, the obvious reason the gap is so astronomically humongous is because Islam, more than it is anything else, is an extremely rabid and draconian form of totalitarianism that seeks world domination as opposed to being just a so-called religion.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Taimooron,

        Your death cult demands that you sacrifice your own children to satisfy the blood lust of your prophet of Satan called Muhammed, And you obey your orders.

        That’s why Hamass orders women and children to stand on the roof of buildings that house Hamass leaders and War centers.

        The ICJ should condemn the Koran for sanctioning terrorism and order a rewrite of the Koran, buy a team of Infidels, to excise the death demanding parts.

  • Guy

    What is feasible? Israel can – and should – take Gaza. Israel can and should destroy Hamas. Can Israel destroy Fatah? I do not think so. Can Israel expel Palestinians from Gaza – no I do not think so.

    Conclusion – Israel needs to take Gaza and run it in occupation.

    Israel must outlaw Fatah and persecute it the way Sisi is attacking the Muslim Brotherhood. Israel must take over the schools in Gaza and close down the Arab press.

    It is really simple. If the people living in Gaza will not live with Israel in peace then they must be forced to live in peace with Israel if they like it or not.

    It is this war between Gaza and Israel that must be ended. It will take force to end it.

    • El Cid

      The must “annex” Gaza. “Occupation” nothing.

    • Taimoor Khan

      There is no war. Only a massacre of Palestinian by a terrorist, land-grabbing entity called Israel.

      • Drakken

        You bloody inbred savages deserve everything you have coming to you and more.

      • Webb

        Get in line for your 72 virgin he-goats, Tami!

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        You like getting your azz kicked by the “sons of pigs and dogs”?

        Good.

        And when you get your azz kicked, by the “sons of pigs and dogs”, that makes you and the rest of your death cult the sons of “snakes and rats”.

        • Taimoor Khan

          Israeli Jews are apt on proving that they are the worse of humanity. Why?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Arabs/Muslims are bent on proving the fallacy of the oxymoron called “The Religion of Peace”.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            You’re confusing us with your Saudi sheiks and Taliban boy rapists

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            And the ayatollahs of Fascist Iran, ISIS, Al Qada, Hamass, Hezbullah, Taliban

          • Taimoor Khan

            So you support language of the above poster?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I do.

            Happy Eternal Nakba for Pal-e-SWINE and the prophet of Satan called Muhammed!

          • Daniel Greenfield

            You just echoed the bigoted language of the Koran about Jews.

            Muslims of course “are the best of humanity”.

  • http://johnnyangeladvocacygroup.net JohnnyAngel Advocacy Group

    USA would not accept the terms they dish out to Israel, awake Israel and do what must be done !!

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    Here is an OP-Ed from Mordechai Kedar – who debated some Arabic host, with Kedar speaking in Arabic to the audience.

    Op-Ed: Land Invasion: Beware the Trap Laid by Hamas
    There are more effective choices.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/15303

  • s;vbkr0boc,klos;

    One big missile will some day get through and wipe out a kindergarten or a shopping center full of people and it will be a game-changer.

    • Webb

      We’d get a lot more outrage, but would again return to the same old status quo of small incremental gains for the Israel haters. Your post brings up the point, of what exactly would it take to make a game-changer. I’m not being critical of you for saying that mass casualties would be a game changer, I’m just saying that I’m personally not going to get my hopes up that such a scenario would lead to any less terrorism in the long run. The Jews have managed to survive over thousands of years, but barely.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      atrocities alone don’t change things

      • Bandido

        They do, if large and horrific enough. Quantity changes quality.

        • ciswhatever

          There have already been numerous absolutely horrific atrocities. Mr Greenfield is correct, yet another one will not fundamentally change things.

          • Bandido

            You ain’t seen nothin yet.

          • Taimoor Khan

            You have also seen nothing yet.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            In case you are unaware, the Israelis are not the unarmed Jew of WW2 Europe or 7th century Medina.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            or 7th century Khybar.

          • Taimoor Khan

            I challenge you. Arabs and Iran vs Israel ALONE.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I challenge you Arab savages against the Infidels from India, Israel, US, UK, Russia, France and others who don’t like how Islamists are behaving in Infidel countries.

          • Bandido

            I did two tours in Vietnam, fought all over the South and into Cambodia. What have you seen, fool?

          • Taimoor Khan

            I respect you military career, but I was speaking with the bigger picture in mind.

          • Drakken

            The big picture is very simple, one of these days one of your fellow muslims is going to do something especially egregious in the west and then it will be game on and no bag limit without mercy nor quarter.

          • Webb

            See Tami behind his 72 virgin he-goats with his pants down around his ankles looking for love in his moosleem paradise. Careful Tami! Your goats loves you not!

          • Drakken

            Yes you haven’t, but soon you will, you savages living in the west are about to have a very rude awaking.

          • Taimoor Khan

            LOL.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “The Religion of Peace”?

            LOL!

          • Drakken

            Today you laugh, tomorrow you will be fleeing in horror.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Which sura or hadith made you laugh?

        • Daniel Greenfield

          Somewhat, consider 9/11.

          The left has enough cultural power to push things back in the can

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            That’s why the fascist left hates Talk Radio, Fox News and Free Speech.

          • Bandido

            If some sort of Israeli 9-11 should (God forbid) occur, always a possibility, then no ideological power on earth could prevent Israel from embarking on a war of annihilation. Having said that, your thesis (as usual) is astute and brilliantly posited.

        • bigjulie

          There was a popular song once…the chorus of which was “Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Bikini, Almagordoooo. Still disputes about the “atrocities” claim…but these events certainly changed things for the better. At least one Muslim country has had this capability for years…and more are on the way. Do you think that if Iran drops the big one on Israel there will be cries of “atrocity”?? From where??

    • mackykam

      That’s ridiculous! Remember Maalot? Or the bus bombing on the Tel Aviv Haifa HWY?

    • Taimoor Khan

      That is likely to happen given Israel is routinely bombing Palestinian kindergartens and shopping malls.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        palestinians “kindergartens” built over rocket caches and hamass command centers.

        How inhuman Hamass is to use arab children as Human Shields.

        • Taimoor Khan

          And I saw a tooth fairy.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The tooth fairy? The tooth fairy is an Infidel too and Haram to your fellow toothless savages.

      • Webb

        Come out and fight Tami. We are waiting. We do not want to bomb your child-love house and risk harming your 6 to 9 year-old brides. How many of these little girls and boys did Mohammud say you could have?

      • Webb

        May Allahole (may many worms crawl out from his hole) remember fondly great keyboard warrior Tami who types furiously instead of fights for his 72 virgin he-goats. You go, Tami!

      • s;vbkr0boc,klos;

        Peddle your donkey sh-t somewhere else. WE here are SO on to you.

  • DontMessWithAmerica

    What makes your pieces so enjoyable is your
    clear perception of situations. Rabin, though meshpuche through marriage,
    knowing what potential world reaction would be, was wrong in deporting the
    terrorists and Hamas leaders. He should have adopted Mafia methods and
    “done a Hoffa” on them. They just “disappear,” never
    to be seen or heard from again. Let the world guess, speculate, demand
    investigations. Obama-like
    investigations are done and show nothing; it remains a mystery which
    contributes to peace.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      you’re right of course

    • Sheik Yerbouti

      It would be nice to see American politicians grow such a pair. But that’s just a Hollywood myth these days.

      • Drakken

        Push will eventually come to shove and then you will see the wheat separated from the chaff.

    • bigjulie

      Absolutely right on!! Hamas is just a small piece of the problem. The main problem is that none of these people have any intention whatsoever of “negotiating” anything! They will continue the Kabuki theater acts that powerful egomaniacs like Obama insist on because they get constant support from the US and other countries in exchange for them…until, one day, they get the upper hand and they can go about fighting with each other again because Israel will be GONE!!
      Rabin was not a stupid man. He knew that the deportations would not do any good, but they would buy a little temporary peace and mostly keep Israel looking like a “civilized” nation to the rest of a largely hostile world, in which Israel had to continue to exist. Over 20 years now and the Islamists have proven beyond any doubt that they are not only uncivilized, but that they will continue to use uncivilized methods to achieve their ultimate goal, world-wide caliphate!
      Time to make Hamas and all the rest of the Islamists an offer they can’t refuse!

  • Habbgun

    What Israel is doing is essentially immoral. It is allowing terrorists to create conditions that lead to terrorist success. The Islamists have failed when they were given total control and the population that was under their heel had enough. That was why the surge in Iraq initially succeeded. The American forces gave a way for the Iraqi to fight back. In Egypt the population threw out the Muslim Brotherhood and the military backed them. Israel is the population under terrorist attack and the people in Judea and Samaria are under the terrorist heel. Israel must demonstrate what all successful fights against terror have demonstrated. The people have had enough and will fight to win. Israelis aren’t just another country. They are the Jewish people and the people have had enough.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      exactly

    • truebearing

      Well said. There is no future in losing by attrition.

    • Taimoor Khan

      “What Israel is doing is essentially immoral.”

      Only this statement is correct.

      • Drakken

        Funny how you inbred bloody wogs get all offended that the infidel had the temerity and gall to fight back. Guess what Haji, the western world is growing sick and tired of you bloody savages, the day is coming where you and yours will be running for your lives from the west, and it is a day that can’t come soon enough. God(not allah) bless the Crusades, Deo Volente!

        • Taimoor Khan

          Get that through your thick skull: war is started by Israel.

          Don’t see it as us vs them.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            War is started by Islam, all over the world.

            There’s a reason why when people think of Islam, they think of terrorism.

            And we often hear the claim that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world – drawing new followers from prisons and mental hospitals.

          • Drakken

            It is us westerners and Israel is part of the west against you goddamn inbred savages, war is coming and you muslims don’t belong in the west so get out, because soon, your not going to get a choice.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Muslims are citizens in West. If you don’t want to live with Muslims, move out of the west!

            Anyway, don’t see it as us vs them. Make a Muslim friend. Just because you were beaten by some Muslims, doesn’t mean all Muslims are bad.

            BTW, your behaviour is filthy. You need to change that before befriending a Muslim.

            See everyone as “us”, not us vs them.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Muslims are taught not to take Infidels as friends, and not to take the wrong kind of Muslim as a friend.

            Do you still use your left hand to wipe your read end? Is toilet paper HARAM?

          • Daniel Greenfield

            Qur’an (3:28) – “Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers:”

          • Webb

            You are an apostate Tami. When I show your comment to take infidel friend, real moosleemees will behead Tami for blasphemy against dog-soiled Ko-ran. So long pal!

          • Drakken

            Islam is not part of the west and it never has been nor will it ever be. East is east and west is west and never the twain shall meet. Your islam is headed to a showdown with us in the west, that day is coming soon.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Muslims killing Muslims in Syria is due to Israel?
            Muslims killing HIndus in India is due to Israel?
            Muslims killing Coptic Christians in Egypt is due to Israel?
            Muslims killing 1,000,000 Muslims in the 8 year Iraq/Iran war is due to Israel?
            ISIS Muslims killing Muslims in Iraq is due to Israel?

            Khancer, you must be suffering from multiple concussions from all your mosque pavement head banging and it’s has damaged your ability to reason.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            Israel didn’t invade six Muslim countries.

            So no, your people started this

          • Taimoor Khan

            Who is occupation entity?

            Don’t see it as us vs them.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Q. Who is occupation entity?
            A. Pal-e-SWINE, Pakishtan, Al Qada, Boko Haram, Taliban, HamASS, Hezbullah, ISIS, Muslim Brotherhood.

            I deserve Extra Credit with that answer.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            Here’s a hint. It begins with the Muslim conquests.

          • Webb

            Those squatting in dirt not producing anything but manure, are occupation entity. Your beeple Tami. Them.

          • Drakken

            Because it is us versus all of yours of islam.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        What the illiterate prophet of Satan called Muhammed said was immoral – and the immoral essence of Islam.

        • Taimoor Khan

          Should I quote the flowery passages of Torah?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Should I quote from the racist Koran?

            Shall I remind you of your self defeating religion of hate which even kills fellow Muslims?

          • Taimoor Khan

            What about Israel occupying Palestinian land?

          • SCR EW SOCIALISM

            Israel occupies Israel.

            Israel does not occupy “Pal-e-SWINE’” since Israel does not occupy Jordan.

            Islam occupies and terrorizes Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, the UK, France, Russia, China, India, Thailand, Phillipines.

            Islam is curzin’ for a bruzin’.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            End your brutal, racist occupation of Indian land that for now is called Pakishtan.

          • Drakken

            There is zero moral equivalence between us Jews/Christians versus you sub human savages of islam.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Your mother must be ashamed of giving birth to you.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Khancer, Your brood sow mother must be proud of sqeezing out another Soldier for Satan AKA Muhammed.

          • Drakken

            Islam is islam and where ever islam goes, the blood always flows, without exception. Well it would seem your aunty mom had no choice in the matter, my mother, a free woman did have a choice.

          • American Patriot

            Sure. Just remember that Judaism has reformed and that the so-called “passages” you’re quoting come from a small fringe group, unlike the Hadith, which is quoted by many Muslim clerics.

  • cisperson

    I’ve read numerous wonderful articles analyzing Operation Protective Edge and this is the most insightful, setting a road map for the future. One aspect that is particularly interesting to me is the idea that we need to move on from the thinking of the 1980′s. Obviously it is only too human to have one’s world view shaped by the events of one’s youth, and this era forms the mindset of the people in the current administration. What makes it worse is that whatever understanding they received through the events of the 1980s was not informed by any context, so they appear to have a world view shaped on very superficial understanding at best. And superficiality also explains why they don’t appear to have the ability to upgrade their 1980′s thinking to current reality. I remember when Obama derided Mitt Romney for having an outdated foreign policy mindset. But what Romney actually had was a historically accurate foreign policy mindset. It was Obama who had the faddish rationale that informs foreign policy.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      It’s tempting to go back, but sometimes the disasters of the present make that impossible. Instead we have to rebuild the good things using the building blocks we have today.

  • Metatrona

    Israel MUST exterminate the savages. There is no other viable solution. The savages refuse to be human.

    • Taimoor Khan

      Israel is the savage entity. Killing over 50 children in 2 days.

      Israeli supporters are also savages.

      • Daniel Greenfield

        Slow day for Assad or Saddam

        • Taimoor Khan

          So? You mean Israel is slightly less terrorist than Saddam or Assad?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Sadaam Hussein used poison gas on the Kurds of Halabja Iraq – 5,000 died.

            Assad, or the rebels, used poison gas on civilians in Syria.

            ISIS executes prisoners in Iraq and puts the videos on the Internet.

            Islam – and its terrorist franchises Al Qada, Islamic Jihad, Hamass, Hezbullah, ISIS, Boko Haram are giving Islam a bad reputation.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            I mean Israel treats its enemies better in war than every Muslim country and 90 percent of the world.

          • Taimoor Khan

            But there is NO war. There is OCCUPATION OF Palestinian land by Israel against UN resolution.

            Are you starting to get the point?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            There is a War being waged by Islamists against people all over the world.

            All over the World – places where there are no Jews/Israelis/Zionists – but too many crazed Muslims – like Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan.

            Islam is the problem that Islam has to solve – before it’s too late – and Infidels will be forced into doing the heavy lifting.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            When your cities are being shelled, it’s a war.

            Tell me with a straight face how nicely a Muslim Arab leader would treat Gaza after that…

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            King Hussein didn’t treat arafats PLO with kid gloves.

            Nor did Kuwait continue to host Pal-e-SWINIANS after they supported the invader saddaam hussein.

      • Webb

        If you are man, Tami, you will go shield the children. Otherwise, you will cower behind women and dogs and pigs and chickens. What will you do, O brave Tami?

        • Taimoor Khan

          You deliberately bomb women and children. Don’t lie.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Islam deliberately bombs mosques of the wrong kind of Muslim, kills 160,000+ in Syria, kills in Iraq and Afghanistan, shoots Muslim girls in the head for wanting an education, stones girls to death over “family honor”.

            Like killing your daughter is not shameful.

          • Taimoor Khan

            If others do wrong, you will do wrong too?

            When will Ariel Sharon and Natenyahu be convicted? They should be convicted with Hamas and punished according to the scale of their terrorism.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            When Muslims do wrong, will you denounce Muslims?

            Where is your outrage over ISIS executing surrendered Iraqi soldiers?

            Where is your outrage over 160,000+ killed in Syria – that’s Arabs/Muslims killing Arabs/Muslims?

            Why did Pakistan harbor Muslim War Criminal Osama bin Laden?

          • Taimoor Khan

            I have expressed outrage on those issues on the relevant forums.

            Here the issue to be discussed is Israeli brutality.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Khancer, My Taqiyya Alarm just went off.

            Do you know why????

          • Webb

            Wrong. Issue is how stupid is Tami.

          • SCRE W SOCIALISM

            Tami is as stupid as a Progressive batting for regressive ultra-conservative HamASS.

            Tami is as stupid as a bag of rocks hammered out of the Kabba.

          • American Patriot

            The issue discussed is Hamas’ aggression against Israeli civilians, as well as aggression against civilians in Gaza since they are being used as human shields by the Islamist terrorist group ruling that territory.

          • Drakken

            They should get medals.

          • Webb

            Go rub your hole with your left hand Tami, then squat in the dirt and eat falafel. Shitt flavored falafel. You have no future. You are an animal. Your people have very low intelligence and produce nothing. Being a bitter loser changes nothing for you or your people. You have been left far behind. Still, good job killing Shiites. Keep up good work.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Spoken like a Naz! about Jews, no?

            Naz!s abused your ancestors, raped women.

            You shamelessly follow in their footsteps rather than learning something?

          • Webb

            Jews hanged Eichmann. He filled his pants like Tami. Jews won, and have won every war since then. Tami’s side has lost every war with Jews, and Tami is crying his eyes out today. Dwell on the positive — how many of your rag-headed flea-bitten brothers have gone to their 72 virgin he-goat reward! We should be happy for them, Tami, not sad like you are crying like little girls. They are ashamed of your tears and squeals. If you think you are occupied, then you must fight instead of pee pants.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “Naz!s abused your ancestors, raped women.”

            Today Sand Na zis do that and more to Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Bahais and the wrong kind of Muslim.

            See Syria, Iraq, Pakistan for examples.

            >You shamelessly follow in their footsteps rather than learning something?

            Jews have learned from the Holocaust that they can only depend on themselves for safety.

            And the world has learned that Islam is the religion of world-wide terrorism.

          • GerriAttricks

            Go defend them you armchair coward.

          • American Patriot

            Hamas uses women and children as human shields in order to accuse Israel of committing war crimes. Don’t lie.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Khancer, you deliberately hide behind women and children.

          • Drakken

            Because we just don’t lead them so much.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Israel uses weapons to defend civilians.

        Pal-e-SWINE uses civilians/children to defend weapons.

        • Taimoor Khan

          Why Israel is bombing children and women? Bomb Hamas if you are men.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Why Hamass use women and children as Human Shields?

            Why Hamass hide behind masks and the skirts of women?

          • Daniel Greenfield

            Israel is bombing Hamas. If Israel were randomly bombing targets, the casualties would be a lot worse.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Israel PRETENDS to bomb Hamas while killing children and women.

            Go read literature on it. Israel uses bombing to terrorize civilians and punish them. This strategy is fundamental to Israeli actions.

            That the casualties are in 100s and not in 1000s is because Israel fears international pressure.

            If it could have its way, it will kill all Palestinians.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            HamASS is very effective in getting their two-legged drones to be Human Shields while HamASS hides in bunkers deep underground.,

            HamASS is guilty of Crimes Against Humanity.

            Remember, Mecca, Tehran, Qom, Islamisbad, Karachi are all smaller than Israel.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            So Israel is killing small numbers of women and children, even though the majority of dead are grown men, as part of a pointless conspiracy?

            Must be part of the whole spy eagles/arachnid chewing gum thing.

          • Drakken

            If only I had 24 B-52′s loaded to the gills with ordinance, then I would show you what a proper bombing looks like, it smells like Victory. God Bless Arclight Strikes, for they make the world a better place.

          • Mladen_Andrijasevic
      • American Patriot

        Hamas and Islamist Iran are the savage entities. Hamas uses civilians as human shields and the Islamist mullahs in Iran supply them with weapons. Hamas supporters are also savages.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Khancer classifies an 18yo with a beard, an AK47 wearing a bandana with praises to Satan written on it, as a “child”.

  • mackykam

    Not to worry! Israel will back off as soon as the West starts making noises over the possibility of success against Hamas. They always do.
    Not for nothing Europe supports Hamas with money. I call it ‘Modern European pogroms from a distance.’ Europeans can no longer kill Jews within their borders with impunity. Doesn’t look too good after the Holocaust. So they pay Hamas to do it for them. Same result, different strategy.
    And don’t Europeans just hate it when Iron Dome knocks down those missiles, by golly! Damn Jews refusing to lay down and die. Downright ruins Christmas and Easter. And Halloween and Guy Fawkes day. And New Years and….

    • StanleyT

      “Europeans can no longer kill Jews within their borders with impunity. Doesn’t look too good after the Holocaust. So they pay Hamas to do it for them.”

      Never thought of it that way, but of course you’re right!

      As for the rest of your post, how long do you think before Amnesty and HRW start complaining because Israel has Iron Dome and Gaza doesn’t? And don’t you think it’s collective punishment for Israel to refuse to build bomb shelters in every Gazan home?

      • mackykam

        I think Israel should provide every Hamas terrorist a security guard and all the muckety mucks a security detail. That will make it fair, LOL.

    • Taimoor Khan

      Europeans are the reason Israel exists.

      • mackykam

        Wrong in every way. Were it up to the Europeans no Jews would have survived the Holocaust.
        The reason Israel exists is because the God of the Jews wills it so!

        • Taimoor Khan

          It was European conspiracy to dump it’s “Jewish Question” on Arabs. Britain paved the way for Israel.

          Learn history.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The “Jewish Answer” is to return to the Land of Israel, defeat 5 attacking Arab armies, none of which was the army of “palestine”, and thrive in face of genocidal Arab fascism – who out of frustration kill fellow Muslms in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, fascist Iran.

            Islam paved the way for the West leaving Islam in the dust.
            .

          • mackykam

            Since this land wasn’t arab land but Turkish land the arabs have no claim to it. Even the Koran states this land was given to the Jews. Learn your Koran.
            Answer this, you ignorant historian: If it was such a conspiracy to dump its Jewish Question on Arabs why did Britain strictly limit Jewish entry to Palestine before and after WW2?

          • Daniel Greenfield

            Israel existed long before Britain.

            Learn history.

      • Webb

        Your people are the boarding houses to the lice and the fleas. Why do your people go out of their way to be dirty, shunning toilet paper?

        • GerriAttricks

          Because they like to lick their fingers?

      • Webb

        If not toilet paper, then pages from ko-ran — especially the pages where rocks and trees call out to muslims to come and kill the Jews hiding behind them.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Satan is the reason Islam exists.

      • American Patriot

        Islamist Arab extremists are the reason why there are Islamist dictatorships and theocracies in Sudan, Mauritania and other countries in North Africa.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Terrorism is a game. The rules are simple. You have three choices. 1. Destroy the terrorists. 2. Live with terrorism. 3. Give in to the terrorists.

    The biggest problem with a small part of this analysis is it is delusional. Muslims are not terrorists. Instead, they are jihadists, i.e., Mujahideen (holy warriors), waging jihad, which is a holy war fought via violent and non-violent means, (in stark contrast to terrorism, which is always and only violent), by all Muslims against all infidels in the cause of Allah to ultimately make Islam supreme throughout the world.

    It’s not the product of so-called Islamists that comprise just radicals and extremists that constitute a minority of Muslims in Islamic totalitarian society. Not to mention also that the word terrorism is also a euphemism for radicals and extremists. Yet, in stark contrast, to just radicals and extremists, jihad actively involves the entire Muslim community and, indeed, is a fundamental holy obligation incumbent upon all Muslims in one form or another, either violent or non-violent. As a matter of fact, the only way for a Muslim to achieve Allah’s rewards is through waging jihad. Thus, since all Muslims are jihadists in one form or another, then they certainly aren’t radicals and extremists that perpetrate terrorism.

    Not only that, but because this analysis is focused so much only on what you perceive to be terrorism, at the same time you are also almost totally ignoring the many non-violent forms of jihad that is being employed around the world. Meanwhile, non-violent jihad relative to violent jihad is not only astronomically far more prevalent, it actually represents an exponentially far greater threat for the infidel world at large relative to violent jihad as well.

    In addition, violent jihadists don’t target and murder innocent civilian infidels in cold-blood because they are terrorists. As a matter of fact, terrorism has exactly nothing whatsoever to do with the reason why Muslims throughout the world primarily target and murder innocent infidels in cold-blood. Instead, the reason why Muslims primarily target and murder innocent civilian infidels in cold-blood is because it is proscribed for them by Sharia (Islamic totalitarian law), because targeting and murdering primarily innocent civilian infidels in cold blood is the weak underbelly of the infidel world. Indeed, it is obligatory. Is perpetrating terrorism also obligatory? Not the last time I checked.

    Thus, in stark contrast to terrorists the world over, Muslims don’t do it because they are radicals and extremists in one form or another, they do what they do instead because it is proscribed for them to do. In other words, because they are obligated to do it according to the dictates of Sharia. Indeed, Sharia is so pervasive in Islamic totalitarian society that it controls virtually everything that Muslims do down to the way they even clean themselves after defecation.

    Not to mention that if all violent jihadists primarily target and murder innocent civilian infidels in cold-blood throughout the world, according to the dictates of Sharia, then obviously it is not the product of just a few radicals and extremists perpetrating terrorism here and there like all other traditional terrorists, since it is a worldwide phenomenon.

    Indeed, since when does terrorism comprise entire cultures and societies? It doesn’t because Muslims, which are all jihadists, are not terrorists and they certainly aren’t just a few radicals and extremists either. Instead, they are Mujahideen (holy warriors) waging jihad (holy war) and waging jihad involves any and all means of fighting both violent and non-violent just like in all other wars.

    Meanwhile, terrorists traditionally constitute only radicals and extremists that employ only violence for various gripes. Now the Left perceives Muslims to be radicals and extremists perpetrating terrorism because of poverty and despair, because of greedy American imperialism, or because of harsh Israeli policies. Perceiving violent jihadists as being terrorists instead of what they actually are falls into their trap.

    Moreover, this targeting and murdering of innocent civilian infidels in cold-blood is not isolated as in terrorism. For instance, the entire Hamas Islamic community, in stark contrast to only just a few radicals and extremists, is currently waging a jihad, primarily violent at the moment, against the infidels in Israel, including the women and children, because waging jihad in the cause of Allah against all infidels to ultimately make Islam supreme is a fundamental holy obligation incumbent upon all Muslims in one form or another, either violent or non-violent, per the dictates of Islam, and no Muslim can ever hope to achieve the rewards of Allah unless he or she wages jihad in one form or another in the cause of Allah, either violently or non-violently.

    Indeed, the manifestation of jihad (holy war) is a manifestation that is solely unique to Islamic totalitarian society alone. No other culture or society, including no other religions, require their entire community to wage jihad (holy war) to make their so-called religion and, indeed, their entire culture and society, supreme above all others. Even the word for it, jihad, is solely unique to Islamic totalitarian society.

    Thus, when violent jihadists are conflated as being terrorists, they are being morally equated with terrorists even though jihad is a manifestation solely unique to Islamic totalitarian society.

    Not to mention also that because Islam more than it is anything else is an extremely rabid form of totalitarianism that seeks world domination rather than being just a so-called religion, all non-conformers in Islamic totalitarian society are routinely executed for apostasy and blasphemy. Thus, it’s not like Muslims have any choice in the matter. It’s either conform or die. What a wonderful way to order a society? Yeah right!

    The attacks have long since passed the point of mere terrorism and are taking place on a military scale.

    That’s because it never was mere terrorism alone to begin with, as it has always been both violent and non-violent jihad instead.

    Israel has a left that is eager to embrace the destructive policies of appeasement without regard to the consequences. It needs a right that is equally heedless of consequences when it comes to war to overcome that pain threshold which prevents it from doing the right thing and reclaiming the future.

    Israel’s problem is the jihad that is being waged against it by the Islamic totalitarian world through their proxies the so-called Palestinians is only a tiny part of the much greater global jihad at large being waged against all infidels and all infidel states throughout the world to ultimately make Islam supreme. Thus, even if Israel could possibly eradicate the so-called Palestinians at some point in the future, it would still not end the Islamic totalitarian world’s jihad, as the jihad would simply be reconstituted once again, since the sole fundamental purpose of mainstream orthodox Islam is to make itself supreme.

    As a matter of fact, no infidel state in the world alone can act to end the jihad being waged against them individually, and it will therefore require the collective action of the entire infidel world acting together collectively as one to put an end to the global jihad at large that is being waged against all infidels and all infidel states throughout the world once and for all.

    Nevertheless, with the exception of you conflating jihad as somehow being terrorism, I fully concur with the majority of your analysis.

  • Sam Benjamin

    Kudos to Daniel Greenfield for telling it like it is!

    • Daniel Greenfield

      thank you

  • PATRIOT.WW48

    Judahlevi, truebearing, el Cid:: A multitude of fine thoughts, however would it not be easier/better to just turn every Sq. in. of sand of the Sons of Ishmael into glass???

  • Walter Sieruk

    The those who engage in the jihad to destroy the Jewish State of Israel just don’t understand is that all of them being Hamas ,Hezbollah ,P.I.J. and other like minded Islamic terror groups are very much fated to lose. For the God of the Bible has declared that is land that now composes the State of Israel belongs to the Jewish people. In other words this land belongs to the Jewish people by Divine Right. A shown ,for example, Genesis 28;13-15. 35;10-12. Deuteronomy 32:48,49. Psalm 105:7-11. 135:4. Therefore even if they don’t know the member of those just mentioned Islamic terror groups are starving against the Will of God. Thus that makes them wicked. So even if the members of Hamas, Hezbollah P.I.J., all join their forces against Israel they will lose in the end and lose hard. For the Bible in Proverbs 11;21 teaches “Though hand join in hand the wicked shall not go unpunished.” [K.J.V.] Furthermore, such anti- Israel alliances are nothing new. Group of such anti-Israel group alliances go as far back as to ancient history . they lost then and will lose now. For example Psalm 83:3-5 reads “They have taken crafty counsel against thy people… They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel shall be no more in remembrance. For they have consulted together with one consent; they are confederated against thee.” Further in verses 16-18 shows the end of such anti- Israel forces. Which read “Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O Lord. Let then be confounded and troubled forever; yea, let them be put to shame,and perish. That men might know that thou, whose name alone is JE-HO-VAH, art the most high over all the earth.” [K.J.V.] That is the God of the Bible Who has the name of Jehovah and not the god of Islam who is the name of Allah. For in spite of what the apologists for Islam claim, the God of the Bible is not the god of Islam. This I had exposes in my earlier posting on this site as well as in my blog. The whole sum of the point is Hams , Hezbollah, P.I.J. and all other like minded Islamic groups are fated to fail in the agenda to destroy the State of Israel.

  • Taimoor Khan

    There is another choice, Greenfield.

    Withdraw from all occupied territories and return to UN sanctioned borders, dismantle illegal settlements, pay compensations to Palestinians for the terrorism committed by Israeli state for the last 30 years, and let a viable Palestinian state be created.

    You are an intelligent man. Why are you supporting an utterly barbaric and racist state? If they could have their way, they would genocide all Palestinians like Nazis did to Jews.

    The only thing stopping them from committing whole scale genocide against Palestinians is international pressure – albeit it needs to be increased. They have massacred more than 100 people, mostly women and children in the last 2 days.

    Israel is a terrorist entity which has de-legitimized itself.

    • liz

      The Palestinians are a terrorist organization that de-legitimized itself a long time ago. You are an idiot.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      That’s the third choice.

      1. An indigenous people can’t occupy its own territory. Your Koran admits that the Jews are the indigenous people.

      2. There is no territory in Israel that the terrorists don’t claim.

      3. If you want to see a barbaric state, try Pakistan.

      • Taimoor Khan

        Dear Greenfield,

        1) Palestinians are more indigenous than Israelis. History and DNA tests both prove this. Still viable solution is one-state or two state within UN borders.

        Le’ts not invoke religious scriptures. Because then I will ask, when have you started following Qur’an? Do you follow everything in it, or only where it allegedly says Israel should exist (which is debatable)? Let’s leave that.

        2) First Israel should return to its lawful territories under UN resolutions BEFORE complaining about terrorism. At the moment, it is Israel which is in breach of international law and illegally occupying territory, thus committing terrorism in its own way – in deed. How can it complain about Hamas charter which is only in words?

        3) Yes, Pakistan is also a barbaric state in some respects. Its treatment of minorities is barbaric. I am a Pakistani but I will not shy away from admitting this. I have a conscience. I speak against this too.

        However, there is a unique aspect of Israeli barbarism. Follow me if you will:

        Israel wants to annex Gaza and West Bank, but does not want to give citizenship to its people. It spreads lies about this people that they outsiders (which is completely false) and its goal is to genocide this people or transfer them eventually.

        This kind of barbarism is calculated and reaches new depths.

        Don’t you think?

        Or give me a viable solution of this conflict that is in your mind – save me the usual brainwashed drivel about Muslim.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Tamoor Khan,

          Hogwash.

          Jews were in the Land of Israel BEFORE your so-called prophet came on the scene.

          Aren’t Jews in the Koran?

          How can you be so ignorant of your own religion?

          Firstly, there already is a Two-State solution.
          1) Israel
          2) Jordan

          As there is a Two-State solution in Asia
          1) India
          2) Pakistan

          The Two-State solution between India and Pakistan is not a good example – considering the dispute, over ownership of land, Kashmir, sound familiar?, and the near nuclear war between the two.

          If there needs to be a “palestine”, Pakistan can provide land..

          • Taimoor Khan

            The Jews that were living in Palestine – most of them CONVERTED to Islam in the Middle Ages. Palestinians are indigenous.

            Jordan is NOT part of two-state settlement. It is Palestine and Israel. Read UN resolutions.

            What about Palestinians living in West Bank and Gaza?

            You want them to be transferred? You want to commit ethnic cleansing?

            Only solution is give them equal rights under one state, or two state.

            You can kill many babies and women, but you will never find peace in the long run.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            LOL!

            Most Jews CONVERTED? LOL!

            Some did, under duress, and the best example of your false narrative is that Jews lived in Yemen, Syria, Iraq until 1948, and fled for their lives from “the religion of peace”, which murders Coptic Christians in Egypt today, murders Christians in Pakistan.

            Your so-called “palestinians” are Egyptians, Syrians, Iraqis, Lebanese.

            Two-States

            1) Israel
            2) Jordan

            like the Two-Sates of

            1) India
            2) Pakistan

            In case you don’t have access to uncensored news, Islam kills women and children all over the world.

            Do you think Syria, where 160,000+ have died, is an example of “the religion of peace” in action?

          • Taimoor Khan

            Jews still live in Yemen!

            These are real Jews, not Russian Jews:

            http://ziomania.com/yemen/images/yemeni129.jpg

            Also, Jews live in Iran too:

            http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/blogs/uploads/2014/04/rbbi-yossef-khatami.jpg

            Palestinians are indigneous population – from converted Jews and Christians.

            Two state:

            Israel

            Palestine

            UN242.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The fact that 200 Jews live in Yemen today, proves that NOT all Jews converted to Islam.

            The fact that 20,000 Jews live in Fascist Iran proves that NOT all Jews converted.

            You just disproved your claim that all Jews converted to “the Religion of Peace”.

            May Pal-e-SWINIANS convert from Islam back to Christianity or Judaism, renouncing Islam without fear of death????

          • Daniel Greenfield

            A handful of Jews have survived in Yemen. They’re mostly gone.

            It’s the same story across the Muslim world.

            Why can Jews live in Christian countries, but not Muslim countries?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            BTW, If Jerusalem is so important to Islam, why is it never mentioned in the Koran?

            Why do Muslims pray towards Mecca and not to Jerusalem?

            Can the Islamic Republic of Pakistan be a role model for a secular “Palestine”? If so how?

          • American Patriot

            Jordan was the original Palestinian Arab state. It was partitioned as the State of Transjordan by the British when the Ottoman Empire dissolved at the end of World War I. The fact is that Jordan is Eastern Palestine while Israel is Western Palestine. While you may be right that many people in the Holy Land region converted to Islam during the Middle Ages, they did to have a choice. Islam is an imperial religion that advocates for jihad, conquest, Sharia Law and totalitarianism. Today, there is an Islamist terrorist group that is even more extreme than Al Qaeda. The terrorist group’s name is the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria and it wants to reestablish the Caliphate that has dominated the Middle East, North Africa and the Iberian peninsula during the Middle Ages. Recently, ISIS militants discovered large stacks of WMDs that Saddam had hidden from the world. Indeed, the previous presidential administration in the United States was right to go and remove an oppressive dictator who was violating human rights, as well as seventeen United Nations resolutions. But the current presidential administration is incompetent because its foreign policy consists of appeasing Islamists.

          • American Patriot

            Sorry, I meant to put “they did not have a choice” regarding Holy Land inhabitants having to convert to Islam during the Middle Ages. Sorry for the typo.

          • Taimoor Khan

            242, man, 242.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            242 – the number of dead Pal-e-SWINIAN Darwin Award winners?

          • ygalg

            I want them to denounce islam, then we can move on with peaceful resolutions. until then, peace impossible.

          • Taimoor Khan

            That’s religious persecution!

            You are ignorant. Peace is possible if Israel stops lusting land and resources of Palestinians.

          • ygalg

            islam is one religion should be outlawed. you the one who is ignorant about it. no matter what israel do in good will, it will result with war. islam is the obstacle.

            you mentioned “religious persecution” that’s what jews experienced in israel you called Palestine before israel state or Zionism exited. not only persecuted also being butchered.

            muslims never will make peace unless jews submit to their ideology either by accepting the dhimmitude or be Muslims. the third option is death.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Peace ain’t possible with land grabbing Syria, Iraq, ISIS, Taliban, Fascist Iran, Pakishtan.

            Clean up your own house. Make peace between sunni and shiite and salifi and wahabbi and girls who want an education like Malala.

          • American Patriot

            No it is not. Islam is an imperial religion that calls for the establishment of a global Islamic Caliphate, which would include a totalitarian theocracy with Sharia Law. It indeed calls for imperialism and totalitarianism.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Muslims Only city of apartheid Mecca is religious persecution.

            Killing Coptic Christians in Egypt is religious persecution.

        • American Patriot

          Since you’re from Pakistan, let me ask what you think about your country’s ally, Communist China and its illegal occupation of Tibet?

          • Taimoor Khan

            At least they take Tibetans as citizens. But I disagree with that too.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            China know how to deal with Islamist terrorists – as does KGB Putins Russia.

          • American Patriot

            No they don’t. While Tibetans living in occupied Tibet are Chinese citizens, they did not have a choice in the matter. And no, you actually do not disagree with Communist China’s actions in Tibet. In fact, you support Communist China because it is Communist (at least in all but economics) and you hate the Dalai Lama because he is a good person who is pro-Western and pro-democracy, which is non existent in Tibet and China. Tibetans are discriminated against in almost every aspect of society in Tibet and China. Israel, on the other hand, treats all of its citizens equally, regardless of characteristics. Arabs living in Israel have more rights and liberties as Israeli citizens than people living in every oppressive dictatorship in the world. You simply support the unholy alliance of Communists, Islamists and Baathists in their goal to create a worldwide totalitarian regime whose society would end up being just like George Orwell’s futuristic nightmare, 1984. The West stands for freedom, human rights and democracy, while its adversaries stand for oppression, imperialism, Sharia Law and totalitarianism.

          • Drakken

            I say let the Chinese have Pakiland, at least they will civilize them.

          • American Patriot

            I was referring to the Chinese Communist illegal occupation of Tibet and the Islamist sympathizing Taimoron Khan’s opinion on that issue, since he is from Pakistan and Pakistan is an ally of Communist China. For the past 64 years, Beijing has invaded, occupied and destroyed a once thriving country and force many of that country’s indigenous Tibetan people, including the Dalai Lama (Tibet’s spiritual leader), into exile. But you are right that China should civilize the Islamist lunatics ruling Pakistan.

        • Daniel Greenfield

          1. There are no Palestinians. There are Arabs. They came as part of the conquests. Your own religion tells you all this.

          2. Since when do Muslim countries follow international law?

          3. Israel wanted to annex the 67′ territories and provide citizenship.

          • Taimoor Khan

            1. There are definitely Palestinians. Arabs came with conquest but mingled with local populations. DNA research shows that Egyptians, Iraqis, Syrians, Palestinians, etc, are fundamentally the original near east populations with some degree of Arab admixture. So your entire theory is flawed. They are called Arabs as a culture and language just like they are Muslims.

            Secondly, for argument’s sake, even if we assume they are all genetically the population of Arabian peninsula, it would be no different to White European conquest of America. Do you want White Americans to have no rights in America or go back to Europe?

            2. I think are you ignorant of Muslim member states of UN?

            Don’t go into conceptional things. Don’t be dishonest for once.

            3. Point is, Israel’s occupation is beyond conventional atrocities. It doesn’t want to give citizenship and rights to the population it is occupying. It wants just the land.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            1. “Arab” isn’t a religion. Stop embarrassing yourself.

            2. How many Muslim countries protect the freedom to change your religion?

            3. Israel can’t occupy its own indigenous territory. It offers citizenship freely to Arabs, see Golan Heights

        • ygalg

          DNA doesn’t tell you who came first or last. not its job. there were few hundred testers and only to suggest the maternal part. its not complete research and so far controversial. no comparison made with remnants of jews from 2000 year that available. indecent to abuse it for politics.

          history points out Arabs in israel are not constant inhabitants. not all related by region nor by tribalism immigrations occur due economical and political changes. the large occurrence took place in 1834 – 38

          thus if to take the notion jews converted and become part of israeli Arabs it means the Egyptians are jews it also suggest Egypt is diluted with Jews and Arabs.

          another part to consider that israel’s existence doesn’t depend on what occurred 2000 years ago. indigenous or not immaterial.

    • Drakken

      The funny thing is, you paki wogs kill more of yourelves in a day that what the Israeli’s do, and you have the balls to call the Israeli’s terrorists? Tooo funny!!!!!

    • UCSPanther

      Ain’t gonna happen, pal.

      • Taimoor Khan

        Of course, expecting this humanity from Israel is expecting a venomous snake to not bite you.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Expecting your self proclaimed “Religion of Peace” to behave in a civilized manner is an exercise in futility.

          See Syria, Iraq, Fascist Iran, Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Islamist Pakistan.

        • UCSPanther

          The whining after the Six Day War was exquisite.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Even the prophet muhammed in H E L L heard the cries of Nakba..

          • UCSPanther

            And the wails of anguish when the UAR alliance’s combined air power was reduced to scrap metal…

    • ObamaYoMoma

      Withdraw from all occupied territories and return to UN sanctioned borders, dismantle illegal settlements, pay compensations to Palestinians for the terrorism committed by Israeli state for the last 30 years, and let a viable Palestinian state be created.

      Come on Taimoor buddy, let’s be real here man. As a Muslim you know perfectly well that per the dictates of Islam the only peace that can ever exist between Muslims and infidels comes only after the infidels have been subjugated into Islamic totalitarian, i.e., harsh and degrading dhimmitude, and only after Islam has been made supreme via the imposition of Sharia (Islamic totalitarian law).

      Hence, the infidels in Israel don’t have any other choice but to resist, as dhimmitude is a fate worse than death. Come on man…you don’t have to always try to deceive. Try being straight for once.

      Now with respect to Jewish infidels paying compensation, which to say the least is absolutely hilarious, I think you got it exactly backwards. In my opinion, the infidel world should confiscate all the Mideast oilfields to compensate for all the misery and untold suffering the Islamic totalitarian world has wreaked on the infidel world over the past almost 1400 years.

      Meanwhile, a viable Palestinian state is also rather funny, as it would just be another step to the final destruction of Israel. Indeed, you should be a comedienne, because you are very funny.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Israel is a slap in the face of muhammed who claimed that Islam is supreme.

        Islamis supreme in the sense that it’s supreme in terrorism, plane hijackings, beheadings, poison gassing, hatred of education, hatred of the wrong kind of Muslim.

        • ygalg

          israel Islam’s the final nail in the coffin.

      • Taimoor Khan

        Don’t erect a strawman!

        You are committing strawman fallacy to justify your wrongs!

        The optimal solution is one state of Palestine (with all people having equal rights), but Arabs and Muslims have long compromised on 2-state solution.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          The optimal solution is one state of Palestine (with all people having equal rights),

          You mean like in Pakistan and all other Islamic totalitarian hellholes throughout the world, where infidels forced to live under Islamic totalitarian rule are harshly oppressed and persecuted, i.e., kidnapped, beaten, raped, rendered into slavery, murdered, slaughtered, and their places of worship are routinely destroyed? Yeah right? So much for the so-called “religion of peace.”

          but Arabs and Muslims have long compromised on 2-state solution

          The only kind of compromise that Muslims can make with infidels are Hudnas, which is a kind of truce that Muslims make with infidels, usually only when they are at a very serious disadvantage, that they fully intend to break as soon as they deem the time is right.

          For instance, when Yasser Arafat signed the Oslo Peace Accords, which allowed him to return to the disputed territories in Israel after being in exile in Tunisia to head up the Palestinian Authority, which the Oslo Peace Accords also created, he went on a whirlwind tour of the Islamic totalitarian world immediately following that signing event in Washington DC, and he explained in no uncertain terms that he had signed those peace accords only in the spirit of the prophet’s infamous Treaty of Hudaibiya in the case some Muslims got a wild hair up their behinds and decided to execute him. In other words, he made it clear to the Islamic totalitarian world that he never intended to uphold his end of the bargain and, of course, he was true to his word because he didn’t

          With respect to compromising on a two state solution, per the dictates of Islam, the only peace that can come between infidels and Muslims is the peace that comes only after the infidels have been rendered into Islamic totalitarianism via the imposition of Sharia (Islamic totalitarian law), which would be harsh and degrading dhimmitude, where non-Muslim infidels that refuse to submit to Allah are governed under the harsh and debilitating rules made infamous under the Pact of Omar. However, in the case of the infidel state of Israel, such an outcome for the Jewish infidels in Israel would not occur until after an enormous bloodbath happened consisting primarily of the blood of dead Jews.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Taimooron, You have a choice, dismantle Pakistan, pay reparations to the families of the 50 million Hindus massacred by Muslims, and rejoin Hindu majority India and join the family of civilized nations.

      Otherwise continue to be hated by civilization.

      Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims.

      See 9/11, Mumbai India massacre, London transport bombings of 7/7/05, Pan Am 103, Nairobi Kenya mall massacre, Nigeria church bombings, Pakishtan church bombings, osaama bin laden safe have in Pakishtan.

      • Taimoor Khan

        Pakistan is existing in LEGAL borders, pal.

        Israel is existing in ILLEGAL borders, for now.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Islamist regime of Pakistan, being true to its Islamist nature, is at war with its neighbor Democratic India, and Islamist Pakistan was the safe haven for Muslim War Criminal Osama bin Laden, until the US Navy Seals brought OBL to justice for his Crimes Against Humanity.

          Plus expansionist Islamist Pakistan almost had a nuclear War with India over ownership of Kashmir

          Kashmir belongs to India and Pakistan needs to cleanse itself of the terrorist elements that inhabit its failed state.

        • American Patriot

          Pakistan, like Israel, was partitioned, moron. The difference is that Israel is a democratic state, while Pakistan is a theocratic military regime.

        • Drakken

          Borders are made by the victors who say what the borders are, not what some sniveling whinny muzzy like you says what it should be.

          • Taimoor Khan

            UN says Israeli borders illegal.

            Live with it.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            UN OKAYed Israel in 1947.

            And Israel defeated 5 attacking armies, NONE of which was the army of “palestine”.

            Where was the army of “palestine” in 1947???

          • UCSPanther

            The UN is a joke.

          • Drakken

            Just what exactly is the UN going to do? Send a strongly worded letter of protest? The victors make the rules, not some sniveling great debate society.

    • ServosT

      Israel, the only country in the world where it’s racist to defend itself.

  • Taimoor Khan

    What are you smoking?

    The Palestinians in Palestine are more native than the Russian and Polish Jews could ever be in their entire history.

    There is no difference between your logic and that of Nazis.

    The human solution is to either 1) create a secular state of Palestine (no Israeli entity) or 2) a two state settlement under UN resolution.

    Too just would be sacrifice on the part of Jews to return to their ancestral land of Russia and Eastern Europe, Ethiopia, India, etc.

    • Drakken

      Sorry Haji, those Jews aren’t going to go anywhere, they are there to stay and no matter what you effing ragheads do, that will not change. To the victors go the spoils because you and your inbred kind fought wars that you lost, tough sh*t! There is more to come.

      • Taimoor Khan

        So if your home is occupied by armed burglars, you will chant “To victors belong the spoils”?

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          To the army of muhammed, defeat at the hand of Infidels (Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Bahais).

          Real Question Tamoorn, Does Islam want to start a War against Islam to trick muahmmed to rise out of a well?

          Why does Islam want to start WW3? Who benefits? What is the end game?

          1.4 primitive Muslims will never defeat 6 billion advanced Infidels.

          Why even try?

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          The “armed burglars” (5 attacking Arab armies – none of which was the army of “palestine”) were defeated in 1948.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Who is not following UN 242?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            242? Which Sura or Hadith are you referring to?

            Islamists don’t respect Infidel UN law.

        • Webb

          Homeless arabs are squatting on Israel’s land, stealing its resources. Armed burglers must all die. To the armed burglers belong 72 virgin he-goats, if he can catch them. They flee when moosleem man approaches them from behind. They have seen what happens, and it is not good. Flee, my brothers, here comes this Tami with gleam in his eye!

        • Drakken

          I really hope that Indian takes that Islamic cesspool called Kashmir soon and finally rids it of the Islamic filth that lives there, and for the really bad analogy of my house being takeover by burglars? That is never going to happen as my people are more than adept at keeping it, as they have always been. When you muslims attack and lose, don’t come crying to us that you lost and want a do over and your sh*t back.

    • Webb

      Not the camel dung you are inhaling, Tami. Human solution is to send Pallies all to see old queeer Allah (who was once ‘Alice’). You only get your 72 virgin he-goats after Allah (camel lice be upon his groin) sleeps with you.

      • Taimoor Khan

        So human solution is Palestinian genocide? Is that what you are advocating?

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          I advocate doing to Muslims what they announce they want to do to Infidels.

          India is a valuable ally in the necessary War to save Civilization.

        • Webb

          What is definition of this Palestini you keep mentioning? Homeless arab squatting in dirt not producing anything? Who has any respect for him? Nearest arab brothers in Jordan abhor him and his ways, and will kill him if he tries to enter their countries. That is genocide, my friend. Arab solution. Arab nations say leave shunned arab squat in the dirt forever. Are you understanding this now, Tami?

          • Taimoor Khan

            Give those Palestinians their land according to UN 242.

            Save your racism to yourself.

            Simple?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            UN 242 and 181 gave Israel to the Jews.

            Pal-e-SWINIANS have Jordan, as long as they behave and don’t try to overthrow King Abdullah whose father knew now to deal with traitorous Pal-e-SWINIANS.

          • Webb

            Yes, Tami, you are very simpleminded.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Pal-e-SWINE has Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Caliphate, as long as they behave and are loyal to ISIS.

          • Drakken

            To the Victors go the spoils and you muslims lost the wars you started and then cry and whine that you lost, too bad.

        • GerriAttricks

          Absolutely. The entire lot of them.

          • Taimoor Khan

            How are you different to Naz!s then?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The US and UK and SU defeated Naziism.

            Islamofascism will be defeated too – by 6 billion Infidels and ex-Muslims.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Jews and Christians lived in the Middle East BEFORE your bandit miuhammed came on the scene.

      Your prophet of Satan, muhammed, battled Jews and massacred them. Now Jews are stronger and more more powerful than all of your fellow savages, and can and do defeat you – bringing the validity of the koran into question.

      If any place should be open to all and secular, it should be Apartheid Mecca.

      Your Pal-e-SWINIANS should pack up and go back to their original home in H E L L.

      • Taimoor Khan

        Those “Jews and Christains” who lived there CONVERTED TO ISLAM and became Palestinians.

        Get it?

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          CONVERTED?

          That’s why Jews lived in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Yemen until 1948 – because they CONVERTED?

          The besieged Coptic Christians in Egypt prove your Taqiyya wrong too.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Oh, my God! RIP logic!

            NOT ALL Jews converted to Islam. But Most did in the region. OK?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Your claim implies that Jews are INDIGENOUS to “the region” and precede the onslaught of “the religion of peace”.

            Thanks for supporting the fact that Jews were in Israel BEFORE your “Pal-e-SWINE” was invented in 1964 by some Socialist in the Kremlin – and spoon fed to the “lady killer” yassir arafat.

            And most Jews converted to Islam like most Hindus converted to Islam?

          • Daniel Greenfield

            Jews who converted en masse to Islam returned to their own religion, e.g. Yemen, Iraq. That was historically the case.

            It was the individual children stolen by Muslims who were lost.

        • Webb

          Now I get it! Tami is big comedian! O Tami, you are funny moosleem. No need to fight when you can tell jokes like this to entertain the jihadis. And I’m sure they find other uses for you as well. Hopefully your jokes will not be found too moderate and lead to crucify for poor Tami.

        • Daniel Greenfield

          Palestinian Arabs are… Arabs

          Jews are Jews

          two different peoples

          • Taimoor Khan

            Arabs, culturally and linguistically. But Palestinian Arabs are basically indigenous Levant population like Lebanese, Syrians, etc.

            Go study genetics.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Your “Pal-e-SWINIANS” are Lebanese, Syrians, Iraqis?

            Great. Problem solved.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      The majority of Jews in Israel are Middle Eastern

      • Taimoor Khan

        And ALL Palestinians are Middle Eastern.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Middle Eastern – from Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Egypt (like Arafat), Jordanian….

        • Daniel Greenfield

          Just not indigenous to Israel. They can move back home to Saudi Arabia.

  • Giles Blyzzard

    Unfortunately, it is the history of the world for nations to dither and procrastinate when hard choices are being faced. Israel needs to do everything in their power to wipe out Hamas. Islam is a cancer on the world and any chance to cut part of that cancer away must be taken.

    I don’t know how such a large percentage of the world’s population could be induced to follow a religion founded by a raving lunatic, but that is the reality we face today. And the week-kneed politicians don’t have the courage to deal with the realities. If Israel has to stand alone without the US and other western countries so be it. She is the one in the immediate danger zone.

    Of course, the leftist Jew-hating politicians that run the US and other western nations support the jihadists. These people always come down on the side of evil. But you would think there would be more politicians on the right who would be pushing much harder against the jihadist and the left, instead of being afraid to be called islamophobes. Don’t these clowns read history books? Are they aware of the centuries of horror that muslim conquests had throughout Europe and Northern Africa? And now the idiots in Europe are inviting them in. They don’t even know their own history. It is astounding beyond belief.

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  • Mladen_Andrijasevic

    The Palestinians are drafting a cease-fire resolution at the UN .

    Are they urging for a hudna or a tahdiah? Both of which they intend to break whenever they choose.

    To see the difference between a hudna and a tahdiah see Question 4 of the quiz

    Question 4: How does a hudna differ from a tahdiah?

    A mini 5 + 1 question quiz for Secretary Kerry
    http://www.madisdead.blogspot.co.il/2014/01/a-mini-5-1-question-quiz-for-secretary.html

  • BagLady

    This status quo became the mainstream choice ever since Israelis figured
    out that the peace process wasn’t going to work and that their leaders
    weren’t about to defy the UN, the US, the UK and all the other U’s by
    actually destroying the terrorists”

    I don’t think your average Israeli is keen on the international outrage that would ensue.

    “Terrorism is a game. The rules are simple. You have three choices. 1.
    Destroy the terrorists. 2. Live with terrorism. 3. Give in to the
    terrorists.”

    I’m a bit fastidious and prefer the term ‘enemy’ to ‘terrorist’. One is clearly defined, the other ambiguous.

    “….It’s another thing to deal with entire terrorist states inside your borders.”

    That can only be interpreted to mean that the entire population is against you and you just have to ask the question: WHY?

    ‘…Israel responds to that threat with light air strikes which damage Hamas’”

    An understatement if ever there was one Daniel. 100+ dead men, women and children this week.

    Ha, what do y’all care? You have G-d, Uncle Sam and Tony Bliar beavering away on your behalf. Only thing to worry about is how to accomplish the ‘goal’ and still ‘save the face’ of the people.

    One thing’s for sure. After this latest round of vengeance, everything will be back the way it was and another half century will pass.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Why? Religion, tribalism, turning over the education system to the PLO, extensive foreign sponsorship by enemy states, etc…

  • Gee

    Then the international community must realize that they have have created a single option only – kill the terrorists. Then they are not deported, nor appeased.

  • republicc

    I have three theories (that can easily be congruent) regarding the Netanyahu strategy in the current Hamas war.

    1) Iran – Israel is prepared to damage the Iranian nuclear program at the time and place that is most advantageous. As a result, Netanyahu is looking over the whole battlefield. His principal concern is damaging Iran’s ability to punish Israel after an Israeli strike. By degrading Hamas while Syria has been neutered and Hezbollah has been overextended it places Israel in a better position to whether the Iranian storm. On the other hand going all out with Hamas would weaken Israel for the time being and would play into Iran’s plans.

    2) By allowing Hamas to survive, Israel can point to its necessity of keeping Judea and Samaria as opposed to what happened with the Gaza withdrawal. Netanyahu had already spoken to this point on Friday when he maintained the necessity of keeping the military in Judea and Samaria in any peace agreement (which of course means no peace agreement, since the Arabs want to destroy Israel).

    3) Israel doesn’t want Gaza for now. By eliminating Gaza from the equation, the Arabs have just above 30% of the population of Israel including Judea and Samaria. With the Jewish population having greater growth than the Arab population, the Arabs will become even a smaller minority as time goes on.

    Israel knows that the last two years of the Obama administration is the most dangerous. In that respect Israel has been lucky to get Netanyahu at this time. In order to survive Obama and keep a good working relationship with the US post Obama, Israel needed someone who can be devious if necessary and knows how to play a good game of chess. Netanyahu, with his S.M.degree from the MIT Sloan School of Management, his illustrious military career as a team leader in the elite special forces Sayeret Maktal and his brilliant stewardship of the Israeli economy, was made for these times. And of course, he does play a great game of chess.

  • DavidG

    They are all fake ” Pallistinians ” and don’t forget it!

  • Hard Little Machine

    Kill them all.

  • 11bravo

    Most rational people in the west (aka civilization), have been waiting for the Jews to defend themselves – by destroying the threats – what is up with the Jews.
    They must hate themselves as much as the American left hates the US. The world is waiting for an American president ready to save the world again. Our politicians are all cowards.

  • camp7

    I’ve just read 336 comments.

    My thoughts are whether this is a socio-political choice or simply a matter of survival. When families, culture and religion are threatened by violent, perpetual, primitive tribalism and anticipated annihilation, it boils down to instinct.

    Which brings Israel to a progressed contemplation of whether they might embrace the teaching of: “Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might.”

    In my profession we used the terms; “Go ugly early” and “Hit them hard, keep them small.” These might have some application concerning Israel as a surviving nation.

    Fight hard
    Kill swiftly
    Offer no apologies

    Advanced humans need to learn this to survive. Thanks for bringing this to light Daniel.

  • Mladen_Andrijasevic

    The reporting of the foreign media has become obscene. Poor Palestinians they suffer since they do not have the Iron Dome, but the Israelis are protected! The world has gone insane! Hamas is indiscriminately attacking all of Israel’s cities yet they are considered victims???

    Imagine that Brighton were Gaza
    http://www.madisdead.blogspot.co.il/2014/07/imagine-that-brighton-were-gaza.html

    Americans need some basic education about the Middle East. Here it is in a form of a quiz:

    A mini 5 + 1 question quiz for Secretary Kerry
    http://www.madisdead.blogspot.co.il/2014/01/a-mini-5-1-question-quiz-for-secretary.html

  • Crazylegs_CarloCruz

    Wow, people are really frightened of liberals on this site

    Paranoia will destroy ya,

    • Drakken

      No wonder people don’t take a useless idiot of the left like you seriously, you can’t even put your cover on straight.

    • ServosT

      It’s not paranoia if they are really trying to destroy the country. And put your hat on straight, you look like a damned fool.

  • Leon

    As an israeli, I can say that this is one of the most spot on analysis as I have seen reported in any israeli media.

    I wish more people had the amount of common sense as Mr Greenfield does.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      thank you

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    Taimoor Khan,

    NO HUDNA!

    Just NAKBA!

  • Remembering JDL

    Stop blaming ourselves, Isreal and other enablers. Wipe out Islamic totalitarianism by destroying the two biggest sponsors Saudi Arabia and Iran. Anything less would just be a bandaid. That’s all anyone ever talks about is band aids.
    Remembering JDL.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Fascist Iran needs to wiped off the pages of time.

      DEATH to Fascist Iran!

      HANG the aystollahs!

      LONG LIVE PERSIA!

  • http://charlesfrith.blogspot.com/ Charles Frith

    Will the Israelis recognise they are the terrorists? Land thieves rarely look in the mirror.

    • Guest

      Terrible life for the Palestinians

      Every time the IDF shoots at my home in response to a rocket I launched aiming to kill innocent Israeli civilians, I have 15 seconds to get behind a child or a woman! 15 SECONDS!!!! What kind of a life is that ?!!

  • Terry

    The objective now should be to annex Judah and Samaria, expel all occupying pretend palestinian arabs, and fortify Israel’s external borders without the cancerous internal threat from a mythical people invented only to exterminate Jews. Maybe the offer of assistance to the King against ISIS can be used to leverage him being willing to take in the pretend pali cancer and rid Israel of its malign presence forever.

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    In the West, children are told to eat their dinner.

    In Pakishtan, children are told to screw their dinner.

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