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	<title>Comments on: George R.R. Martin, Conscientious Objector, Thinks Killing People With Drones Isn&#8217;t Bloody Enough</title>
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		<title>By: Doc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 13:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brother as a former soldier I can tell you that when the proverbial hits the fan and your &#039;toe to toe&#039; you man up real quick, that&#039;s what training is for, but your right there are those in the military also that don&#039;t have that killer instinct. You would think that the process for selection into the military would seek out those that cannot kill in the defense of their country and citizens, not so, in my experience (Iraq 04-05, 08-09) it takes several hard, dirty close encounters to change a man or woman into an effective killing machine... for some it is easier than others, for some it never bothers them (Exception not the rule) there]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brother as a former soldier I can tell you that when the proverbial hits the fan and your &#8216;toe to toe&#8217; you man up real quick, that&#8217;s what training is for, but your right there are those in the military also that don&#8217;t have that killer instinct. You would think that the process for selection into the military would seek out those that cannot kill in the defense of their country and citizens, not so, in my experience (Iraq 04-05, 08-09) it takes several hard, dirty close encounters to change a man or woman into an effective killing machine&#8230; for some it is easier than others, for some it never bothers them (Exception not the rule) there</p>
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		<title>By: Seek</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 04:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No more than &quot;violent&quot; video games or movies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No more than &#8220;violent&#8221; video games or movies.</p>
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		<title>By: Smoking Hamster</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smoking Hamster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He very well might lay down his sword.

Some people don&#039;t have it in themselves to kill someone else. They freeze and don&#039;t have the heart or strength to do the killing blow.

While those kinds of people may seem rare I imagine it is because they die quickly in combat compared to others. In the ancient world that would likely make soldiers nasty people.

Modern soldiers don&#039;t have that extreme of a selective pressure and are much better people than the soldiers of old.

That is basically a long-winded way to say &quot;an armed society is a polite society.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He very well might lay down his sword.</p>
<p>Some people don&#8217;t have it in themselves to kill someone else. They freeze and don&#8217;t have the heart or strength to do the killing blow.</p>
<p>While those kinds of people may seem rare I imagine it is because they die quickly in combat compared to others. In the ancient world that would likely make soldiers nasty people.</p>
<p>Modern soldiers don&#8217;t have that extreme of a selective pressure and are much better people than the soldiers of old.</p>
<p>That is basically a long-winded way to say &#8220;an armed society is a polite society.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Greenfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 22:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a reason lefties sympathize with the enemy. Vicarious savagery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a reason lefties sympathize with the enemy. Vicarious savagery.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 22:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen!</p>
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		<title>By: Lightbringer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightbringer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting that Martin should speak of the virtues of &quot;taking a sharp piece of steel and hacking at someone&#039;s head...&quot; when this is what the savages we currently fight take such delight in doing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that Martin should speak of the virtues of &#8220;taking a sharp piece of steel and hacking at someone&#8217;s head&#8230;&#8221; when this is what the savages we currently fight take such delight in doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Davros11</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Davros11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our fault, we listen to the libtards. Everyone should just ignore or shame them when they make stupid comments.  eventually they shut up and walk away, mumbling under their breath  &quot;BUSH&#039;S FAULT&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our fault, we listen to the libtards. Everyone should just ignore or shame them when they make stupid comments.  eventually they shut up and walk away, mumbling under their breath  &#8220;BUSH&#8217;S FAULT&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ncprivateer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ncprivateer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We spend billions of dollars to design, build and deploy armed drones for the simple reason that it is preferable to do so rather than risk the life of someone&#039;s son, daughter, husband, wife, sister or brother to perform the same mission.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We spend billions of dollars to design, build and deploy armed drones for the simple reason that it is preferable to do so rather than risk the life of someone&#8217;s son, daughter, husband, wife, sister or brother to perform the same mission.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Greenfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 15:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In his mind, he&#039;s no doubt sensitizing his readers to the horrors of war.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his mind, he&#8217;s no doubt sensitizing his readers to the horrors of war.</p>
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		<title>By: Gee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do see that people that have never put their lives on the line are so willing to have others kill for their opinion.
They are nothing but cowards]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do see that people that have never put their lives on the line are so willing to have others kill for their opinion.<br />
They are nothing but cowards</p>
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		<title>By: Habbgun</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Habbgun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting he sees both scenarios as dominance by one side. That one side kills and the other is always, always nothing but a hapless victim.

If you were standing toe to toe you knew it was his head or yours and eventually if you fight enough battles probably your own head for sure. That changes your outlook. It has to if you are to survive and enjoy the amount of life given to you.

Martin&#039;s own conscientious objection seems to be one of opportunity. Would he stand in front of the other side, defenseless if he was standing toe to toe with another man and a sword? Could he ask others to do it?

Saying you don&#039;t mind losing a war when your own life does not seem to be immediately in jeopardy is easy. For professional activists profitable. For the less fortunate its suicide.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting he sees both scenarios as dominance by one side. That one side kills and the other is always, always nothing but a hapless victim.</p>
<p>If you were standing toe to toe you knew it was his head or yours and eventually if you fight enough battles probably your own head for sure. That changes your outlook. It has to if you are to survive and enjoy the amount of life given to you.</p>
<p>Martin&#8217;s own conscientious objection seems to be one of opportunity. Would he stand in front of the other side, defenseless if he was standing toe to toe with another man and a sword? Could he ask others to do it?</p>
<p>Saying you don&#8217;t mind losing a war when your own life does not seem to be immediately in jeopardy is easy. For professional activists profitable. For the less fortunate its suicide.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Louis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[George R.R. Martin can go to H E double toothpicks.  
  
Al Qaeda never stopped killing  after 911.  Did they not seen the horror on the faces of their victims?
  
Boko Haram hacks peple to death. They show no sign of letting up.  Boko Haram is affiliated with Al Qaeda. Have the words Boko Harsam passed  by George R.R. Martin&#039;s lips?
  
&quot;Boko Haram is likely linked to Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)&quot;
  
&quot;Violence linked to the Boko Haram insurgency has resulted in an estimated 10,000 deaths between 2002 and 2013&quot;
  
&quot;Human Rights Watch claims that Boko Haram uses child soldiers, including 12 year olds&quot;
 
&quot;In mid March 2014, allegations backed by a tapped phone conversation arose about the use of Turkish Airlines to lift weapons to Boko Haram, in an operation directed by the National Intelligence Organization of Turkey, and known by Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan&#039;s Chief of Staff, Mustafa Varank&quot;
  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boko_Haram]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George R.R. Martin can go to H E double toothpicks.  </p>
<p>Al Qaeda never stopped killing  after 911.  Did they not seen the horror on the faces of their victims?</p>
<p>Boko Haram hacks peple to death. They show no sign of letting up.  Boko Haram is affiliated with Al Qaeda. Have the words Boko Harsam passed  by George R.R. Martin&#8217;s lips?</p>
<p>&#8220;Boko Haram is likely linked to Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Violence linked to the Boko Haram insurgency has resulted in an estimated 10,000 deaths between 2002 and 2013&#8243;</p>
<p>&#8220;Human Rights Watch claims that Boko Haram uses child soldiers, including 12 year olds&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;In mid March 2014, allegations backed by a tapped phone conversation arose about the use of Turkish Airlines to lift weapons to Boko Haram, in an operation directed by the National Intelligence Organization of Turkey, and known by Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan&#8217;s Chief of Staff, Mustafa Varank&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boko_Haram" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boko_Haram</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nightowl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nightowl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has George R.R. Martin ever wondered whether his novels have desensitized his readers to violence? Does he feel angst when he collects his royalty checks?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has George R.R. Martin ever wondered whether his novels have desensitized his readers to violence? Does he feel angst when he collects his royalty checks?</p>
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