Hamas Ponders Referendum to Incorporate Gaza into Russia

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam. He is completing a book on the international challenges America faces in the 21st century.


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Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov with Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh

If Putin really wants a Middle Eastern port and a million violent Muslims, some Russian women in Gaza know where he can find one.

According to the pro-Hamas Palestine Information Center there are around 50,000 Russian women in Gaza imported as brides who are proposing a referendum to have Gaza follow Crimea by seeking anschluss with Russia.

Gaza is home to about fifty thousand citizens of the Russian Federation, mainly women who have married Palestinian Arabs. Now the Russian community in Gaza is discussing plans to apply to the Hamas government  and initiate a referendum on joining Russia.

“Moscow said it would defend its citizens, no matter where in the world they may be,” – said N., one of the activists of the community, which became part of the initiative group.

If Gaza becomes Russian, it will have strong, well-stocked borders, modern weapons, and maybe even nuclear weapons, and then the Zionist “Israel” and the Egyptian junta will be in for a surprise.

As for the “permission” to hold a referendum from Ramallah (it’s basic “charge” to the West Crimea: did not consult with Kiev), it is not required, because Abbas’s rule has been illegitimate for more than five years, as well as the parliament, which was not re-elected within its constitutional term.

Asked about the fact that Russia is geographically far from the Gaza Strip, N. replies that it is not a problem: “Is Gibraltar is close to Britain or the Falkland Islands?”

Hamas has never been all that committed to the myth of “Palestine”. Its Interior Minister has argued that its people are really Egyptians and Saudis.

Russia does have ties to Hamas and Israel and Russia have been at war before. Russian forces were prepared to attack Israel in 1967 and quite a few Russian pilots were shot down and captured in the Yom Kippur War. (For that matter the North Koreans were there too.)

Still it’s doubtful that Hamas would go so far as to undermine its credibility with Muslim countries by letting this go too far ahead and even more doubtful that Putin would want to throw this much weight around especially since it would mean having to supply Gaza by sea and defend it by air against every Israeli attack in response to every Hamas rocket attack on Israel. And considering the mix of other terror groups, some of whom hate the Russians, Russian personnel wouldn’t be safe on the ground either.

There’s a reason that this story appears to only show up on the PIC’s Russian site. It’ll eventually be picked up by RT and the domestic Russian propaganda press, if it hasn’t already, accompanied by interviews demonizing Israel. (There will be little mention of the fact that many Russian women in Arab Muslim villages are virtual slaves with no way out.)

The whole thing is a propaganda opportunity and little else. For now.

  • Texas Patriot

    DG: “The whole thing is a propaganda opportunity and little else.”

    Yes, but who is the one writing about it?

    • Anukem Jihadi

      very cloak and dagger but have you ever wondered who’s asking about who’s writing?

      • Texas Patriot

        We all live in a fishbowl, right? ;-)

        • Anukem Jihadi

          something is fishy yes

          • Texas Patriot

            Fish or fowl, let’s just hope we’re all on America’s side in this war.

          • Anukem Jihadi
          • Texas Patriot

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          • objectivefactsmatter

            It takes more than hope for effective risk management.

          • Texas Patriot

            OFM: “It takes more than hope for effective risk management.”

            For the record, I’m fully in favor of the NSA monitoring and surveilling every single conversation that takes place in America and throughout the world to discover potentially surreptitious and anti-American activity, and with the announcement of the DARPA/DEFT project in 2012, it would appear that we are definitely moving in the direction of having that capacity.

            http://www.darpa.mil/Our_Work/I2O/Programs/Deep_Exploration_and_Filtering_of_Text_(DEFT).aspx

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Google knows more about Americans than the NSA.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        So arafat likes H E L L. Thumbs up!

    • Daniel Greenfield

      I’m getting in before it gets blown out of proportion the way I tried to do with the burning shirt video.

      • Texas Patriot

        As a citizen of Israel with a professed admiration for American ideals, you could perform an important role in helping America and Russia to see more clearly how two former Cold War enemies actually have much more of an interest in jointly fighting the international network of Islamic jihadis than we could ever have in getting excited about a small piece of dirt in the historically Russian Crimea. I say bravo and good luck to the Russian women in Gaza. May they make their husbands’ lives a pure living hell until freedom rings throughout the Levant!

        • Daniel Greenfield

          I’m not a citizen of Israel and the US and Russia still believe they can make use of Muslims.

          • Texas Patriot

            Yes, we all know that the Russians have traditionally cozied up with Iran in the same way we have cozied up with Saudi Arabia, but the days of either America or Russia having any degree of trust in their jihadist “friends” may be rapidly coming to an end and in fact may already be disappearing into the rear view mirror of positive international relations. The pendulum of that continuum probably reached its zenith and began its swing back in the other direction on September 11, 2012, when the U.S. backed rebels in Libya, whom we had helped to overthrow “the tyrant” Ghaddafi, turned on us and assassinated our diplomats to the accompaniment of worldwide Muslim demonstrations and chants of “Obama, Obama, We’re All Osama”. If that wasn’t enough to raise eyebrows even in the most corrupt and deluded corners of our government, I will be very surprised.

            You’re not a citizen of Israel? What is your citizenship?

          • truebearing

            “The pendulum of that continuum probably reached its zenith and began its swing back in the other direction on September 11, 2012, when the U.S. backed rebels in Libya, whom we had helped to overthrow “the tyrant” Ghaddafi, turned on us and assassinated our diplomats to the accompaniment of worldwide Muslim demonstrations and chants of “Obama, Obama, We’re All Osama”. If that wasn’t enough to raise eyebrows even in the most corrupt and deluded corners of our government, I will be very surprised.”

            Then very surprised you will be to learn that Benghazi wasn’t enough to bring about the changes you think are happening. it may come as a shock to you that Obama was supplying weapons to the Syrian rebels fighting Assad in Syria — the same Al Queda affiliated Islamists that we supplied in Libya. Some of them probably participated in the embassy attack. So much for your “raised eyebrow” theory.

            Oh, and let’s not forget Obama’s dishonesty and blatant favoritism of Abbas over Israel in the Pathetic Peace Posturing. Abbas demanded that convicted Muslim terrorist murderers be released from Israeli prisons as a pre-condition for Abbas to merely sit at the table with Israel. Obama has described Abbas as someone who shuns violence. Feel free to laugh.

            Yes, eyebrows were raised, but none in the Whitehouse.

          • Texas Patriot

            TB: “Then very surprised you will be to learn that Benghazi wasn’t enough to bring about the changes you think are happening. it may come as a shock to you that Obama was supplying weapons to the Syrian rebels fighting Assad in Syria — the same Al Queda affiliated Islamists that we supplied in Libya.”

            I thought your boys John McCain and Lindsay Graham were the big proponents of arming the Syrian rebels. Obama is not an idiot and not a fool, and he’s not going to come out and admit he was deceived about Islam.

            Thomas Jefferson didn’t immediately start squawking and bawling that he had been deceived. He just quietly made his report to Congress and ordered Old Ironsides and a detachment of Marines to the Barbary Coast. By the same token, if Obama got the message of September 11, 2012 (and it is impossible to imagine that he could miss it), he’s going to pivot and slowly readjust his strategy and relationships accordingly, and he’s going to do it all behind the scenes, not on a podium for the entire world to see.

            If I’m right about all of this, Obama will quietly lay the groundwork with Russia and China, and in the event the Iranians insist on going forward with the development of nuclear weapons, he will blow their nuclear weapons complex out of the ground with an explosive force so great that there won’t be any sign of it left at all.

          • truebearing

            McCain and Graham are not my boys. I dislike both of them and hope they retire or get beaten in their next primary. Stop making things up simply because you are looking for cover. Just be a man and admit you voted for Obama, twice.

            Obama isn’t decieved about Islam. He is a Muslim. He knows all about it. You were decieved, however, and quite thoroughly. I noticed you didn’t want to discuss your “raised eyebrow” theory, or that you were wrong about Obama, yet again.

            I don’t think Obama is an idiot. I think he is evil. You on the other hand…

          • Texas Patriot

            TB: “Obama isn’t decieved about Islam. He is a Muslim.”

            Obama’s not a Muslim, and I didn’t vote for him. His grandfather was a Muslim goat herder in Kenya, but his father was an atheist. Obama himself is a professed Christian, and probably a lot better Christian than you are. That is, if you are a Christian. Jesus said that only God is good. That means that all men are evil and subject to being deceived by the evil one, who is, as Jesus said, the Great Deceiver, and a murderer from the start. Wake up, you too have been deceived, and probably much more so than Obama.

          • truebearing

            The fact that you believe anything Obama says is proof of how completely gullible you are.

            Professing to be a Christian doesn’t make you one, especially when you are trying to get elected and Christians are a huge voting bloc. Obama’s supposed “Christianity” was taught by Reverend Wright, a Marxist who actually taught Black Liberation Theology in his “church.” Wright was also a Muslim before he claimed to have renounced Islam — a claim made highly dubious by the close friendship he has with Nation of Islam leader, Louis Farrakhan. Apostasy is punishable by death in Islam, so if Wright truly is an apostate, why is Farrkhan still his close friend instead of executioner? Farrakhan is likely the one who had Malcomb X assassinated, and the reason he was killed was apostasy, yet Wright is allowed to violate Islam’s greatest sin? Still think Wright and Obama are Christians?

            You aren’t the judge of who is Christian and who isn’t. You decieve yourself.

          • Texas Patriot

            You’re the one deceiving yourself if you believe that Obama is a Muslim. But that would be no surprise to anyone. Your entire worldview is based on half-truths and paranoia. Here’s hoping Obama blows the Iranian nuclear complex completely out of the ground, and you have to eat the giant dead crow of lies and hatred that you live by.

          • tickletik

            He’s American Tex.

            But he should emigrate and move.

          • Freedom Call

            Land of the free – not just for people who’s opinions are the same as yours fascist.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            You should take your own advice.

        • Freedom Call

          Actually i am just that and i’m more for switching to the eastern bloc.

          America looks to me like rome in her final days – decadence and people without a care in the world while the barbarians (or debt) are at the gates.

          • Texas Patriot

            It looks grim, alright, but America has the capacity to reinvent itself and change for the better like no other nation in the history of the world. With the right game plan and right focus, we could move light years ahead of other nations, technologically, economically, and militarily, in a mere decade. Do you really want to bet against that?

          • Freedom Call

            I want to believe.. but obama was elected twice.
            It seems so easy to distract the american public while perverting right and wrong.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “perverting right and wrong.”

            A SOCIALIST specialty.

  • A Z

    I knew a Palestinian studying nuclear science in an American University called Lefteri. Scary thought that. He was part of the Middle East Solidarity Committee

    He’s probably employed by the Iranians now.

    • Texas Patriot

      The freedom of access to our finest technology and best universities that we have given to foreign nationals who are actual or potential enemies of the United States is a matter of serious concern.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        Understatement of the Year.

  • truebearing

    If Putin had a shred of decency or concern for the people of Russia, he’d put a stop to the selling of Russian women by the Russian crime syndicates… even if he did have to give up some of the profits.

  • DogmaelJones1

    How on earth did fifty thousand Russian women wind up in Gaza? Were they kidnapped, did they volunteer to marry Palestinian Arabs? I know there are Russian blog sites that advertise Russian women wanting to marry Americans, but marry wife-beating Muslims in godforsaken Gaza? Daniel, please enlighten us, if you can.

    • truebearing

      I’m sure Daniel can expand upon this, but Russian crime syndicates are selling Russian girls all over the world. It is a white slave trade.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Russian Human Trafficking.

        Isn’t that Illegal?

        Where is the ICC?

        Russia is doing it? Never mind.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      http://www.russian-brides-club.com/

      There are lots of wealthy people in Gaza. The press and many others are lying to you about conditions there.

    • ditto

      Its even higher in syria, russia which has a declining population and birth rate allows its women to marry arabs, who convert them to islam and slavery, you would also be surprised if you knew how many western females marry arabs and then disappear off the radar when they go to live in muslim arab nations

    • Freedom Call

      Via egypt – human trafficking of women for sexual slavery.
      Islam being charming as usual.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      I don’t know if those numbers are correct, they’re from the Hamas site, but people I’ve run them by said it was possible. It’s not just sex trafficking, in most cases women voluntarily go. They think it’s an exotic place, wealthy man, etc…

      • Freedom Call

        I wouldn’t put a single cent on anything written in a hamas or fatah website.

        The fatah are now claiming to be canaanites – behind being completely and utterly false it’s actually a stupid propaganda stint since the quran specifically states the canaanites deserve to die.

        On that note hamas actually doesn’t care about the palestine narrative – they openly state they acknowledge themselves as egyptians or syrians.

    • Drakken

      It is tragic to see, we have had numerous white girls come up to us in ME countries begging us to free them of these places, We do what we can and get them out of here. The Saudi’s are the extreme worst of the worst, when they are done with them they dump them in the Empty Quarter. Filthy savages.

      • DogmaelJones1

        Draken: This is very interesting. Have you any sources for this information. I might write a column on the subject. I write for Rule of Reason and other blog sites. If you go to Rule of Reason, you can send the blog host a message asking to contact me.

        • Drakken

          I am trying my best to come up with sources for you that don’t compromise certain individuals and security arrangements. The best I can do for now is to point you to the Balkans where the white slave trade is rife, and run by the various muslim mafias there who funnel these girls all over the ME and Far east. I would point to certain agencies of Europe like Interpol who probably would be a good source and plenty of tired people willing to talk to you about it. Also a good source would be certain Catholic Clergy would also be of help, (hint hint).

          • DogmaelJones1

            Thanks. I’ll begin my initial research on the subject. Nevertheless, please feel free to contact me via Rule of Reason or Capitalism Magazine, which also runs my columns.

  • Allah is Dead

    why would moscow want to partner with muslim terrorists

    • Freedom Call

      because they are not christian crusaders!
      Russia has long been a patron of muslim states/terrorists when it’s good for russia. (soviet union pretty much armed the entire arab league and provided intelligence/advisors against israel).

      • Drakken

        The Russians arm the muslims so that they kill off their fellow muslims instead of the killing them. It is a sound policy so far and the Russians have absolutely no problem getting rid of the muslims in their midst.

        • Freedom Call

          Russia does what benefits russia – they’ve always been christian as the story goes mostly because islam banned alcohol.

          There are plenty of muslim turko-ethnicities and mongols and what have you not in russia and the practice of mysticism runs deep in asia and eastern europe. So piety is not the driving force behind this KGB thug (the same organization that tortured priests and burned churches).

          The white-power trolls somehow think putin gives a rat’s a* about them or that this is some how a “great white revival”. (while i think that idea is insane regardless – it is simply not the case either)

          Wheter or not a muslim dies for it is irrelevant to them (and to our analysis of their intent at large).

  • Von Stierlitz

    Russians don’t need foreign muzzies. They have enough trouble with their own.

  • Mongo66

    If they did go this way, I think it would be great for Israel. Russia won’t want trouble with Israel as they have some financial interest in the way Israel is. Russia wouldn’t want the headache, and would police they terrorism as they too have been victims of Islamists. And say what you want, but Russia is far more civilized than the Hamas animals. Would there be tensions? Of course. But eventually, as Hamas power is squashed, they will attack the Russians, wearing them out and causing them to withdraw and cut ties. Israel at that point will have no choice but to regain control and eliminate the Islamists.