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	<title>Comments on: IRS Official Who Targeted Americans for their Political Beliefs Claims Holding Her in Contempt Would be Un-American</title>
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		<title>By: DB1954</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 01:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t hold your breath. They&#039;ll just move to plan B. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t hold your breath. They&#8217;ll just move to plan B. </p>
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		<title>By: NAHALKIDES</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NAHALKIDES]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s hope so - then we can maybe get at the truth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s hope so &#8211; then we can maybe get at the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: DB1954</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DB1954]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 22:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lerner waived the right to assert the 5th Amendment privilege when she said, &quot;I have done nothing wrong.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lerner waived the right to assert the 5th Amendment privilege when she said, &#8220;I have done nothing wrong.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DB1954</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 22:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[She waived the privilege. If that question goes to a federal court, the court will find that she waived the privilege.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She waived the privilege. If that question goes to a federal court, the court will find that she waived the privilege.</p>
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		<title>By: DB1954</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DB1954]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 22:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[She waived and therefore lost her right to invoke the 5th Amendment privilege when she testified that she had &quot;done nothing wrong.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She waived and therefore lost her right to invoke the 5th Amendment privilege when she testified that she had &#8220;done nothing wrong.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DB1954</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/irs-official-who-targeted-americans-for-their-political-beliefs-claims-holding-her-in-contempt-would-be-un-american/comment-page-1/#comment-5406733</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, what we need is rope. A lot of rope.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, what we need is rope. A lot of rope.</p>
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		<title>By: NAHALKIDES</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/irs-official-who-targeted-americans-for-their-political-beliefs-claims-holding-her-in-contempt-would-be-un-american/comment-page-1/#comment-5406648</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NAHALKIDES]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They&#039;d have to spend 24 hours a day monitoring the activities of the Democratic Party.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;d have to spend 24 hours a day monitoring the activities of the Democratic Party.</p>
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		<title>By: NAHALKIDES</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/irs-official-who-targeted-americans-for-their-political-beliefs-claims-holding-her-in-contempt-would-be-un-american/comment-page-1/#comment-5406644</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NAHALKIDES]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 18:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[She claimed to have done nothing wrong.  If that&#039;s the case, then she cannot simultaneously claim that her answers to particular questions could somehow incriminate her.  To illustrate this point, let us suppose you are on the witness stand and I ask you if you released confidential taxpayer information.  You could take the 5th because that answer (if yes) could possibly incriminate you.

Now let us suppose you have made a long, self-serving statement:
&quot;My conduct in this matter has been entirely above board; I have absolutely not broken any laws.&quot;

I then ask you if you discussed targeting Tea Party groups with anyone else in the IRS.  You can&#039;t very plausibly assert any privilege when you have already testified that you didn&#039;t break the law; how could your answer incriminate you if that were the case?

The judge still might rule in your favor, and ultimately, the court may sustain Lerner&#039;s position - it&#039;s not a sure thing either way.  We&#039;ll have to see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She claimed to have done nothing wrong.  If that&#8217;s the case, then she cannot simultaneously claim that her answers to particular questions could somehow incriminate her.  To illustrate this point, let us suppose you are on the witness stand and I ask you if you released confidential taxpayer information.  You could take the 5th because that answer (if yes) could possibly incriminate you.</p>
<p>Now let us suppose you have made a long, self-serving statement:<br />
&#8220;My conduct in this matter has been entirely above board; I have absolutely not broken any laws.&#8221;</p>
<p>I then ask you if you discussed targeting Tea Party groups with anyone else in the IRS.  You can&#8217;t very plausibly assert any privilege when you have already testified that you didn&#8217;t break the law; how could your answer incriminate you if that were the case?</p>
<p>The judge still might rule in your favor, and ultimately, the court may sustain Lerner&#8217;s position &#8211; it&#8217;s not a sure thing either way.  We&#8217;ll have to see.</p>
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		<title>By: NAHALKIDES</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NAHALKIDES]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 18:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re not talking about mob violence against innocent citizens here, LR, but about the very healthy tendency to give those who would rule us, who have abused public office, a very hard time.  It&#039;s really had to come up with a reason why Lerner and her co-plotters should &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; be tarred and feathered.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re not talking about mob violence against innocent citizens here, LR, but about the very healthy tendency to give those who would rule us, who have abused public office, a very hard time.  It&#8217;s really had to come up with a reason why Lerner and her co-plotters should <i>not</i> be tarred and feathered.</p>
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		<title>By: NAHALKIDES</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NAHALKIDES]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 18:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remember that Lerner is not a private citizen, but part of the government.  While that doesn&#039;t mean she&#039;s stripped of Constitutional rights, it should mean that if she fails to answer the questions of Congress she automatically loses her cushy, overpaid government job.  In this case, she retired, so we can&#039;t fire her.

The fifth amendment privilege may be waived in a variety of ways.  We&#039;re not going to settle that legal question here, but you should see how beneficial to America it will be if the Court finds she waived her privilege and holds her in contempt.  Either she will receive a small fraction of the punishment her abuse of power deserves or she&#039;ll be forced to testify truthfully as to who above her was involved in the plot.

Finally, I&#039;m all in favor of trying her on as many charges as possible.  It&#039;s going to be difficult, because while she certainly broke agency rules it may not be possible to prove she violated Federal law.  We have some hope, however, that her transmission of taxpayer records to her private email account and possibly other destinations will qualify, and it&#039;s also possible a perjury charge can be brought.  

And clearly, if we good guys can ever get control of the government again, serious reform will be necessary and Lerner&#039;s behavior will have to be severely criminalized, with mandatory minimum penalties, to deter future administrations from abusing the IRS this way.  Better still would be a tax simplification that renders much of the controversy over tax-exempt status unnecessary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember that Lerner is not a private citizen, but part of the government.  While that doesn&#8217;t mean she&#8217;s stripped of Constitutional rights, it should mean that if she fails to answer the questions of Congress she automatically loses her cushy, overpaid government job.  In this case, she retired, so we can&#8217;t fire her.</p>
<p>The fifth amendment privilege may be waived in a variety of ways.  We&#8217;re not going to settle that legal question here, but you should see how beneficial to America it will be if the Court finds she waived her privilege and holds her in contempt.  Either she will receive a small fraction of the punishment her abuse of power deserves or she&#8217;ll be forced to testify truthfully as to who above her was involved in the plot.</p>
<p>Finally, I&#8217;m all in favor of trying her on as many charges as possible.  It&#8217;s going to be difficult, because while she certainly broke agency rules it may not be possible to prove she violated Federal law.  We have some hope, however, that her transmission of taxpayer records to her private email account and possibly other destinations will qualify, and it&#8217;s also possible a perjury charge can be brought.  </p>
<p>And clearly, if we good guys can ever get control of the government again, serious reform will be necessary and Lerner&#8217;s behavior will have to be severely criminalized, with mandatory minimum penalties, to deter future administrations from abusing the IRS this way.  Better still would be a tax simplification that renders much of the controversy over tax-exempt status unnecessary.</p>
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		<title>By: ahad_ha_amoratsim</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t believe everything that you read at huffpo. The fifth can be waived. Once you waive it, the fifth is not a defense to a contempt charge for refusing to answer a question under oath.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t believe everything that you read at huffpo. The fifth can be waived. Once you waive it, the fifth is not a defense to a contempt charge for refusing to answer a question under oath.</p>
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		<title>By: ahad_ha_amoratsim</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is contempt to refuse to answer a lawful question while under oath at a trial or hearing, unless you have a valid privilege to refuse. One such privilege is that against self-incrimination under the fifth amendment, but like many privileges, it can be waived. If Lerner waived the privilege (and it appears that she did) by her earlier testimony, the privilege no longer existed and is not a defense to a contempt charge.
You might want to ask for a refund from whatever law school gave you a degree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is contempt to refuse to answer a lawful question while under oath at a trial or hearing, unless you have a valid privilege to refuse. One such privilege is that against self-incrimination under the fifth amendment, but like many privileges, it can be waived. If Lerner waived the privilege (and it appears that she did) by her earlier testimony, the privilege no longer existed and is not a defense to a contempt charge.<br />
You might want to ask for a refund from whatever law school gave you a degree.</p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s re-convene the House Committee on Un-American Activities!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s re-convene the House Committee on Un-American Activities!</p>
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		<title>By: nomoretraitors</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nomoretraitors]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They should know all about being un-American as they are the antithesis of everything American]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should know all about being un-American as they are the antithesis of everything American</p>
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		<title>By: nomoretraitors</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nomoretraitors]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d love to see this left wing prostitute keeping some big Bertha/Shaniqua warm at night in a federal lock up]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to see this left wing prostitute keeping some big Bertha/Shaniqua warm at night in a federal lock up</p>
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		<title>By: Habbgun</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Habbgun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately for Lois Lerner an Obama nation doesn&#039;t care whether something is UnAmerican. It does deeply care if something offends Islam. So far Islam has no problem with her being cited for contempt so we&#039;re all clear to go ahead with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately for Lois Lerner an Obama nation doesn&#8217;t care whether something is UnAmerican. It does deeply care if something offends Islam. So far Islam has no problem with her being cited for contempt so we&#8217;re all clear to go ahead with it.</p>
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		<title>By: CowboyUp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CowboyUp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 13:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll be sure to take the fifth, and not make a statement to the question after doing so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be sure to take the fifth, and not make a statement to the question after doing so.</p>
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		<title>By: CaoMoo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CaoMoo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 11:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s just lying and subterfuge to protect the pres who was likely behind it]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just lying and subterfuge to protect the pres who was likely behind it</p>
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		<title>By: Lexus Ranger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lexus Ranger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 10:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s overlook the fact that the constitution allows her to take the fifth.  If she committed some other crime then gather the evidence and try her.  Rope, nope, and that solution truly is anti-American.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s overlook the fact that the constitution allows her to take the fifth.  If she committed some other crime then gather the evidence and try her.  Rope, nope, and that solution truly is anti-American.</p>
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		<title>By: Lexus Ranger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lexus Ranger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 10:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By taking the fifth she is actually doing what our laws allow her to do and while I&#039;m not a supporter of her or what she may&#039;ve done, you should be thankful for being able to &quot;take the fifth&quot; because it could protect you at sometime in the future as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By taking the fifth she is actually doing what our laws allow her to do and while I&#8217;m not a supporter of her or what she may&#8217;ve done, you should be thankful for being able to &#8220;take the fifth&#8221; because it could protect you at sometime in the future as well.</p>
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