It Takes a Rogue Nation to Stop a Rogue State

18185205The international community looked into Putin’s eyes and blinked. Multilateralism has failed as badly as it did in the days of the League of Nations, but then again it never actually worked.

The international order that everyone pretends is a real force in world affairs is really the United States and a few partners doing all the work and letting the diplomats and bureaucrats of the world pretend that they matter. Without America, the United Nations would be just as useless as the League of Nations. With America, the United Nations is only a deterrent when the United States puts its foot down and the rest of the world doesn’t get in the way.

It has become fashionable to denounce the United States as a rogue state. A military intervention, even with the backing of its Western allies, but outside the framework of the organizations of the international order, was deemed unilateralism and cowboy diplomacy.

And then Obama rode in on a three-speed bike and won a Nobel Peace Prize for his commitment to doing nothing.

The multilateral system is helpless in the face of aggression. That is as true today as it was eighty years ago. International agreements are worthless without steel and lead behind them. The United Nations is incapable of acting when one of its more powerful members is the aggressor, the foreign policy experts of the left crank out editorials explaining why we can’t do anything and the Secretary of State explains that our weakness is really a strength.

International law couldn’t stop Hitler. It couldn’t stop Japan. It took the United States to do that. The foreign policy experts will deny it, the editorials will decry it and the Common Core textbooks will refuse to print it; but it takes a rogue nation to stop a rogue state.

England and France’s diplomatic outreach to Nazi Germany led to the seizure of the Rhineland, the annexations of Austria and a portion of Czechoslovakia, followed by the invasions of Czechoslovakia and Poland. American diplomacy and sanctions on Japan led to Pearl Harbor.

The issue isn’t whether the United States should intervene in Ukraine, but whether it should have the option to do something more meaningful than draw faint red lines and threaten worthless sanctions. Every mob throwing things at soldiers and police isn’t necessarily composed of the good guys just because they have photogenic protesters and colorful flags.

Our instinct to automatically support the underdog is just another dangerous figment of the multilateral mindset.

The United States has unselectively adopted the human rights agenda of the internationalists and allowed our foreign affairs priorities to be curated by the diplomats of the left who know exactly whom to denounce and what not to do about it. UN Ambassador Samantha Power, wearing a bitter frown, agonizing over the woes of the world, is the face of our senseless and useless diplomacy that forces us to play the moral scold without being able to back it up.

American foreign policy has become indistinguishable from the United Nations agenda and just as impotent, fixated on the recommendations of human rights committees instead of national interests, incapable of addressing historical alliances, and unable to build its responses around anything except the same Powerian empty shriek of self-righteous human rights outrage.

Obama’s America has turned a cold impartial face to its allies, aspiring instead to become the vessel of international organizations while assigning its morality to an international committee. American foreign policy is under international management and that transfers its decision process from D.C. to an international network of committees incapable of doing anything except generating worthless reports and denouncing Israel.

The United States was the ghost in the machine of the United Nations, but now that the United States is the United Nations, the United States has become the puppet of a puppet.

The weakness of multilateral diplomacy is that it strives to negotiate accommodations to the clashes of the moment without reference to past history or the trajectory of future conquests. This was a weakness that Hitler understood and exploited, reducing the issue to the current status of the Sudetenland or the Rhineland, rather than to past and future war aims. It was only when the Allies broke out of the diplomatic mindset of considering every Hitlerian conquest individually and debating the merits of defending Czechoslovakia, rather than anticipating the conquest of Poland, that real resistance to the Nazi war machine finally began.

Unfortunately the Allies failed to learn from history and accepted Stalin’s piecemeal takeovers at face value only waking up after much of the world had fallen under the Red Flag. It was President Eisenhower’s “Domino Theory” that assigned a value to each conquest not based on its own status, but its place in a chain of conquests in a struggle for regional dominance.

Sarah Palin understood in 2008 what the school of foreign policy “realists” did not; that Georgia was not significant in isolation but as a prerequisite to the invasion of Ukraine and likewise Ukraine should be understood in the context of an imperial territorial ambition that stretches far beyond its borders.

Whether or not we choose to oppose that ambition we should understand it on its own terms.

The United States should have a strong military, not so that it can use it, but so that it won’t need to use it. Military budget cuts send the message that we won’t intervene in international conflicts which makes it more likely that our enemies will start conflicts and that some of those conflicts will drag us in anyway no matter how much of the fleet we mothball and how many transsexual dance troupes we host on what used to be the army bases of a world power.

Military weakness invites war, whether it was the British trying to face down Hitler with no bullets or Obama announcing another round of drastic defense cuts just before Putin rolled into Ukraine.

Diplomacy is only the art of saying “nice doggie” until you find the stick if you were stupid enough to throw away the big stick in the first place. And then you had better hope that you are dealing with a very stupid dog that won’t gnaw your arm off before you can get at that stick.

The United States should have clear commitments and agreements that it keeps, rather than randomly butting into every single conflict and human rights violation on the planet. Its leaders should decide whether they really are serious about Syria or Ukraine or any other place on earth that they issue press releases about and keep quiet about them if they are not.

And if they are serious, they should be ready to act with the same decisiveness that Vladimir Putin showed.

History isn’t made by nations defending international law, but acting on their own imperatives. Only a rogue nation that isn’t bound by the chains of multilateralism can take the unilateral action necessary to stop a rogue state.

American cowboy diplomacy is the only defense the world has against commissar diplomacy, cossack diplomacy and caliphate diplomacy.

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  • Jeff Ludwig

    Some great phrases and sentences in this article. Ex.: “Its leaders should decide whether they really are serious about Syria or Ukraine or any other place on earth that they issue press releases about and keep quiet about them if they are not.”
    Also, “the United States has become a puppet of a puppet.” Mr. Greenfield has deftly characterized the way we do foreign policy “business.” He is describing a dilution of consciousness of what we are really doing. I call it “emptying of reality.” You see, it’s not our conclusions but our way of implementing that is so piss poor. And this “way” ultimately impacts the types of positions, for or against, that we find ourselves taking. It’s twilight zone diplomacy described as “multilateralism.” I say “twilight” because it is not in the world, but far too ‘of the world’. In short, it’s a parody of the injunction to Christians. It is laughably inconsequential.
    It’s my privilege to be the first commenter. You see, as I was falling asleep, I realized that I had not put out the trash because tomorrow a.m. is collection time, so I put out the trash and checked in at frontpage and found this new article. A perfect reason to neglect my rest. Thank you Mr. Greenfield for consistently leading me to WANT to lose sleep so I can be provoked into real thought by reading your articles.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Just don’t lose too much sleep. The article will still be here tomorrow.

  • Judahlevi

    Cowboy, commissar, cossack, and caliphate – perfect!

    The only thing more feckless than Obama/Kerry is the UN. Naturally, this is where Obama puts all of his trust. I am sure the Euros are patting him on the back for being a good ‘internationalist.’

    There has never been a president of the US who is so ashamed of his own power and clueless on how to use it. The US has been a force for good in the world, but Obama in his academes believe in the Howard Zinn version of American history.

    How about a competent president next election instead of a politically correct one?

    • tickletik

      Dream on.

      • tickletik

        Actually, who knows?

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Not ready for Hillary… and Benghazi II ?

      • Judahlevi

        The problem with Hillary is not that she is a woman, but Benghazi is minor compared to the damage she can do as president.

        I don’t care if the president is a man or woman as long as they are competent. And yes, Facebook will have to forgive me for being so insensitive not to mention the other 54 gender types.

        Keep up the great work!

    • nomoretraitors

      We don’t want competent presidents. We want rock stars and “historic” elections

      • truebearing

        And pay-per-view beheadings of infidels and global warming racists…well, not quite yet. There are still a few steps in Obama’s Dhimmerica plan before that happens.

    • BagLady

      The US has been a force for good in the world, but

      … and a very big BUT

      • Judahlevi

        Yeah, I know. We have heard it all before. America is terrible and we should all be ashamed of our country.

        Spare us the guilt-laden sermons. They don’t work here.

        • BagLady

          Don’t put words into my mouth please. Five words does not a sermon make. And “guilt laden”. … I am not American so why would I feel guilty about your aggressive, though usually failed, forays into foreign lands?

      • Debbie G

        You are a big but(t).

        • BagLady

          How erudite

  • Steeloak

    I have not seen a better summary of the ineptitude of the west when facing a real threat. Obama and his team are playing Neville Chamberlain to Putin’s Bismarck and they wonder why they keep getting played like a violin.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      They don’t even recognize that they’re getting played. They’re so chock full of precious self-esteem that they’re sure they’re winning.

      All the papers they read say they’re winning… so.

      • truebearing

        They are “special.” They can’t be wrong because they believe in what is smart, and by believing what is smart makes them smart and smart people can’t be wrong because they’re smart.

        Maybe we should be calling the Left the “Tautologians” in honor of their impenetrable circular reasoning.

      • lyndaaquarius

        it’s crazy making the lack of real intelligence among our so called leaders.Obama and Kerry are such arrogant buffoons. The whole world is teeming with uncertainty. Scary.

  • tickletik

    “And then Obama rode in on a three-speed bike”. More like a tricycle.

  • tickletik

    I’ve read several sources that state that Germany’s mechanized corps and air force were incredibly advanced only because they took over the Czech factories when the weaklings ruling that country rolled over like a bunch of scared little rabbits.

    Let me make it clear, the Czechs had better factories and better tech. They had great fortifications, and the populace was ready to fight. But all that didn’t make up for a corrupt, gutless, weak, degenerate government.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Certainly helped.

    • Drakken

      No the Czech’s did not have better tech, the Germans had that down to exact science, typical Teutonic efficiency and meticulousness. The Czech’s just had factories which the Germans retooled for their own use.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        As they say some times (and it’s some times true) there is a distinct quality to quantity. Or something to that effect. This effect was eventually used against them, as we know.

    • A Z

      If the Czech tech was better the Panzer 38(t) would not have been phased out. The Panzer 4 was still used at the end of the war and was developed in the 1930s. I would have to say it was better.

      I am not saying that it was bad tech, Czechoslovakia had been part of the Austrian Hungarian Empire and part of central /western Europe. They certainly had a very good factory in the Skoda works. Better or Lesser? I don’t know.

      “But all that didn’t make up for a corrupt, gutless, weak, degenerate government.”

      That I totally agree with.

      http://www.amazon.com/The-Good-Soldier-Panzer-Grenadier-Grossdeutschland/dp/0966638999

      He is a good book about a good Czech/German boy who served in the Wehrmacht. It is a good read.

      • tickletik

        No no , you are right. I looked up comparable fighter aircraft from 1939, and a quick glance shows that the Germans had better fighter aircraft. From that point, I can just assume that the tanks were the same.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avia_B-135

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Fw_190

        But it’s probably a safe bet to also assume the factories and technical know how of Czech aircraft engineers were used to advance the Luftwaffe program

        • A Z

          I agree to the factories. I have no ideal about the engineers. There was more collaboration in France than people want to admit. So what was collaboration in the Czechoslovakia like? I have no facts and no figures.

          Even when the Panzer 38(t) was phased out the chassis kept being produced for tank destroyers , the Marder III. Those were pretty good.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marder_III

    • Johnny

      This is an area where I am well informed. At the start of WWII Germany had the best and most advanced army in the world. What they lacked was the resources for sustained combat. One of the reasons they launched such a ferocious blitzkrieg against the French was that they had to win quickly. If the war had dragged out in the initial stages they would have been finished.

      To a somewhat lesser extent, the same thing was true on the eastern front. They needed the resources to be had in Eastern Europe to sustain the empire they imagined they would have. What finished the war effort off more than anything was that the Russian empire failed to collapse, and Germany lacked the population base necessary to trade causalities with the Russians. Combine that with the allied invasion of North Africa, Italy and eventually France, and a German defeat became certain.

      And then, along with the above, there was Hitler’s alienation of the Eastern European populations, the pointless and resource draining extermination of the Jews, and an American air force that eventually became unbeatable.

      • tickletik

        Thank you for the correction

  • truebearing

    This was a superb and searing demolition of the failed thinking behind multilateralism, and every move the Obama administration has ever made.

    “Obama’s America has turned a cold impartial face to its allies, aspiring instead to become the vessel of international organizations while assigning its morality to an international committee. American foreign policy is under international management”

    This is at the core of the problem. Our foreign policy isn’t American foreign policy. Obama has forfeited American sovereignty at every opportunity and has jobbed out American policy to transnationalists at the UN. America can no longer be a rogue nation.

    Obama’s job is to subordinate the United States to an unofficial global government. His systematic damaging of our alliances, weakening of our defenses, sabotage of our economy, and inundating the nation with illegal aliens is all by design. The Ukrainians are the least of his interests. The war Obama is fighting is against the Americans who still want this country to survive as a great and free nation. Obama is to America what Putin is to Ukraine.

    Obama set this all up early in his first term when he betrayed Poland and Czechoslovakia by reneging on the missile defense system. He’s been giving Russia everything it wants ever since. The United States has been the loser in every deal Obama has made, but how has Obama, or those he works for, benefitted? If we were to identify Obama’s “employer” based on who has benefitted the most from his America destructive agreements, it would be Putin and Soros, not necessarily in that order.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      …and since there is no global government, American foreign policy is just hanging out there in thin air.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        Think globally, act locally. It will come to be if we just imagine a positive future.

        • MLCBLOG

          What? this must be sarcasm, right?

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Either not everyone is thinking positively and acting locally or it’s a bullshit little snippet that hippies used to throw around. Or both.

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  • Bamaguje

    ” Every mob throwing things at soldiers and police isn’t necessarily composed of the good guys… Our instinct to automatically support the underdog is just another dangerous figment of the multilateral mindset” – Daniel Greenfield.

    That is the crux of the matter. Yanukovich was Ukraine’s democratically elected Prime minister forced out by a riotous mob throwing Molotov cocktails. And the West goaded them on.
    Just imagine if riotous Tea party mobs besieged the White House insisting that Obama/Biden must step down. Would that be acceptable?

    Democracy is underpinned by the rule of law. If you don’t like a govt, vote them out in the next election. Not for a riotous vociferous minority to force out an elected government…. because they know quite well they can’t do it through free & fair elections. The Thai red shirts are also culpable.

    Yanukovich and Russia tried to be reasonable. Yanukovich repealed the tough anti-protesters law, and sacked some of his cabinet ministers to make way for the opposition whom he invited to his government.
    Russia offered Ukraine a better deal than EU – $16 billion with low priced gas. But stuck with cold war mentality, the West encouraged the pro-EU mob not to compromise.
    Now it’s all blown up in their faces…unintended consequences? Or was it intended?

    • reader

      You can’t even read your talking points well enough to figure that Yanukovich was President, not Prime Minister.

      • Bamaguje

        Your correction is appreciated, although it doesn’t detract from my points.

        • reader

          Now, if you could also consider that Ukraine is a souvereign country; that Yanukovitch illegally nullified its Constitution in 2004, and that he – a former convicted fellon – embezzled millions (in whatever currency you prefer to count it) that would be even better.

          • Bamaguje

            The issue at the heart of Ukraine’s current crisis is EU membership.
            If there’s any substance to your allegation that Yanukovich embezzled millions or “illegally nullified” Ukraine’s constitution, it would have been in the opposition’s talking point.

          • reader

            Yet, that’s exactly why people said that they rebelled – without any real opposition having any control over mass media. If you insist that they are bad for Ukraine, perhaps you should start with proving that their premise for rebelling is wrong.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      “Just imagine if riotous Tea party mobs besieged the White House and took
      over federal buildings, insisting that Obama/Biden must step down…
      with Russia fueling the protests. Would that be acceptable?”

      This is really the wrong place to ask that question.

      That said, the US was hardly pulling the strings this time around. And even so, promoting protests is vastly different than an armed invasion.

      • Wolfthatknowsall

        Indeed, as an original member of the First Brigade, I’ve never encountered anything remotely resembling a “riotous Tea Party mob”. We leave that kind of activity to the DEMs and their streeties …

        This is why the Feds can’t stand the Tea Party. We just won’t act like they expect us to, and the way that they would act.

        • Bamaguje

          “I’ve never encountered anything remotely resembling a “riotous Tea Party mob”” – Wolfthatknowsall.

          Of course not!!
          The Tea party is much better behaved than that. I only used the hypothetical analogy to drive home the point of what just happened in Ukraine.
          OWS mob is far more likely to misbehave. But since Obama is their man, they won’t go as far as the pro-EU Ukrainian mob.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Just be that you don’t unwittingly contribute to leftist meme production. There are people that literally imagine the modern Tea Party movement as some kind of illicit armed counterrevolutionary (counter progressive) movement. I frequently hear them referred to as “anarchists.” Sure. The anarchy of the US constitution.

            But hey, if you go against “progress” I guess that’s to be expected.

      • Bamaguje

        Armed invasion?
        The so-called invasion is mostly media-hyped anti-Russia propaganda. Russia has always had troops in Crimea as part of its Black sea fleet.
        The agreement with Ukraine allows for up to 25,000 Russian troops. Even with the current beefing up of Russian forces, Moscow still has less than 25,000 troops in Crimea.

        • Daniel Greenfield

          This isn’t a Russian military presence. Once you start taking control of territory and threatening the local armed forces, it’s an invasion.

  • slowly

    When the usual corruption isn’t working send in the troops. This could really be what Putin has been waiting for all his life, —to make this sequence of mistakes, and lose everything. If the russians are so smart, why doesn’t anyone ever voluntarily side with them? Poland is triple-better than Ukraine by connecting with the EU. What really won the cold war? Was it guns or grocery stores? Every tick down in the oil market will be a tick up in Putin’s blood pressure. It’s really quite sad. It could have been different. How many hundreds more years will they keep doing this?

    • Daniel Greenfield

      It could have been different, but Clinton blew it. Then the KGB and their pals took over.

      The rest is history.

  • The March Hare

    Probably the best analysis of our situation in the world that I have read in a long, long time. If we had a conservative government with people like Daniel Greenfield, John Bolton, et al involved, we would be in a much better place than the one we’ve been backed into. The leftists are throwing away everything our forefathers bestowed upon us. This country was founded by the strong and determined of Europe and the world. It takes strong, determined, courageous people to just pack up your family and set off to a new country and struggle to carve out a better life that is more free than that of the old world. That is our heritage and makeup and is why we have always been the strong rogue nation we have been up until the socialists/communists stepped in and quietly infiltrated our government and our culture until they gained enough followers to take over. We again need to go rogue, first at home, then to project the strength outward showing the rest of the world where we stand. Reagan had it right. Peace through strength. Then we would probably need to slap down a few non-believers.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Without strength, there is no peace.

      • The March Hare

        Si vis pacem, para bellum

        • Daniel Greenfield

          exactly

        • ben t

          I write this at the top of my desk calendar every month

    • Thomas L. Stafford

      We need a Reagan-like individual that can speak over the mainstream media directly to the people like he did. Imagine what a man like that could do with conservative majorities in both houses of Congress. We may be able to get this country back to where it was before Franklin (the) Destroyer Roosevelt. We could at least deconstruct Lyndon B. Johnson’s (not so) Great Society.

      • Lightbringer

        Perhaps Daniel has already suggested a Reagan-like individual: Sarah Palin. But considering what the media did to her in 2008, I would not blame her for refusing to run for any public office again.

        • lyndaaquarius

          Sarah Palin is as wily and shrewd as Putin. Nothing gets past her. She’ll also be fearless in the defense of our liberty and prosperity. She’s beholden to no one but the American citizens.She’s unfazed by the left’s tantrums,too.

          And like all great world leaders,she has tremendous energy.

          • Lightbringer

            Glad to see that more people take her as seriously and admire her as much as I do. But again, after what the media, including some two-bit comics, did to her and to her family, it would take superhuman courage to run for office again. Though she might just have that superhuman courage. We’ll see.

          • lyndaaquarius

            she’s got the courage. I’m always struck by her incredible timing. It’s flawless,always on the mark. I’ve come to trust her political instincts and her timing.She operates from a “servant’s heart” and not an ego hungry for power. She’s a pretty pure hearted person. Can anyone say the same of Hillary Clinton?

          • lyndaaquarius

            interesting combo, she’s pure hearted and no body’s fool.She belongs on the world stage.

          • BagLady

            And like all great world leaders,she has tremendous energy.

            Heaven help us all if she’s the best you can come up with in a country of 315 million souls.

  • http://libertyandculture.blogspot.com/ Jason P

    The principles outlined in the article are correct. However, Europe has to start adopting this line of thinking. It is Europe that will bear the brunt of economic sanctions. It has to grow a backbone.

    The Ukraine is not Israel. Israel has defended itself in several wars and maintains a strong resolve and dedicated military. An alliance with a strong-willed nation, proven is battle, is wise. The Ukraine is not Europe’s Israel. It is corrupt and has learned little in its 25 years of independence.

    It’s time to demand more of Europe. Our military welfare has created a dependency, with all its arrogant feelings of entitlement. It may be sad for the Ukraine to pay the price but if this wakes up Europe, that they can’t depend on the USA (and we will have Obamas and Carters from time to time), perhaps they’ll take responsibility for themselves.

    Obama’s weakness already led to France taking a larger role in fighting jihadi in Africa. Even the French socialist government is acting tougher. It will cost in the short run but an awakened Europe is better for us and the world. We need another strong ally … like Israel, the UK, etc.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      We should absolutely demand more of Europe. They need to do their share.

      • logdon

        Careful what you wish for there, Daniel.

        Think of Ashton. Think of Israel. Then think of all that destructive and inept meddling multiplied a thousandfold.

        • Thomas L. Stafford

          Israel would be better off without our meddling. Europe has gotten too used to our protection. The situation has delayed their day of reckoning with the expense of cradle to grave social security. But, in either case we cannot continue to support them at the levels to which they have become accustomed. So whether it be a matter of what is right or simple economics they are going to have to stand up.

          Who (what) is Ashton?

          • logdon

            We’re on the same page only you don’t seem to know it.

            As for Ashton, I’ll make it easy for you.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Ashton

            PS

            Her excruciating visage is more than equaled by her incompetence.

          • Drakken

            That is why she was put in charge.

          • logdon

            Precisely.

      • iluvisrael

        The only way that’s possible is for euro countries to stop the cradle to grave entitlements and use that money for their militaries.

        • Drakken

          That time is coming sooner than you think, the socialist model in Europe is failing because of the influx of 3rd world trash, and the Euro govts know this, they are scared to death of what the natives are going to do to them once they find out, there is no money left. Europe is now at the beginning stages of nationalism and once it blossoms to full fruitatian, it will be epic.

          • logdon

            Spot on.

            Ironic isn’t it?

            The EU has morphed into a grossly flabby anti-national entity and now driven insane by unelected power is being hoisted by it’s own petard.

          • Drakken

            It amazes me Don that all of this could have been avoided, but the public got complacent and the govt minions drunk with power and hubris thought they could get away with it forever. Now the reckoning is coming.

          • Lightbringer

            Oh, just wonderful. Once Europe’s nationalism blossoms to full fruition they’ll do what they always do: Blame the Jews. Here come the pogroms, and the Muslims will cheerfully help.

          • Drakken

            The natives will be to busy taking out the muslim trash to worry about a few Jews in their midst.

          • Lightbringer

            Let’s hope you’re right. It’s a comforting thought.

      • lyndaaquarius

        It seems that something vital was hollowed out of the European character after World War 2.They’ve been enfeebled spiritually,artistically and morally.

    • Thomas L. Stafford

      You failed to include Clinton in your group of occupants of the Oval Office who were far too interested in multilateralism over national interest. I even think that President George H. W. Bush and President George W. Bush were somewhat hamstrung be their attempts to depend on multilateral cooperation in dealing with the Middle East. I know that dithering around trying to get cooperation for the second Iraq war allowed Saddam to get his chemical and biological weapons out of country. I also believe that we should have gone all of the way to Baghdad in Desert Storm. A lot of misery could have been avoided that way.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        Clinton’s stupidity was masked a bit by the glow effect of the first Gulf War. We were still greatly feared then. Plus Clinton tried a lot harder to appear like a centrist.

        I don’t think Clinton hates America the way that a lot of leftists do. He’s dangerous as well, but in different ways.

        “I also believe that we should have gone all of the way to Baghdad in Desert Storm. A lot of misery could have been avoided that way.”

        It would have been extremely controversial, but those with deeper knowledge of Islam would have understand the effect on jihadi schemers. It was a tough call I’m sure.

  • BagLady

    I suppose if I was a bent government that had plunged my country into the proverbial quagmire, I too would be looking to Russia.

    The bailout offered by the IMF was a measly $160 million which would condemn Ukraine to a recession and the kind of austerity that would provoke unrest. Russia was very generous by comparison, offering $15 billion with $3 billion already having changed hands.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Not that the people would have seen much of the money either way. Maybe with the IMF the corruption would have been a bit less.

      • BagLady

        Would it? You have more faith than I.

        • Daniel Greenfield

          I said a bit less. The IMF is making some attempts at an investment. The other side is straight mafia.

          • BagLady

            IMF solutions always seem to require the selling off of national treasures to foreign conglomerates, thus reducing the earning power of the hapless country whilst increasing the onerous debt. At the same time bigger EU countries (especially Germany) benefit, as the income moves off-shore. [See Greece]. I see not one single example of IMF austerity measures having worked.

            You may have one and, if you do, I would be happy to share it.

          • BagLady

            In my experience there is little difference between the policies of ‘slick’ legalised mafia and the Mafia per se. Same pockets, different hands.

    • reader

      Your posts – primitive as they are customarily – are noteworthy for its blatantly different stance toward East Europe as opposed to Israel. For some reason, money dissapearing in the Palestinian Authority and all kinds of other shanenigans over there is viewed as good – as long as they kill the Jews, I suppose.

      • A Z

        She is at the very least on the lower rung of the British upper class. What do you expect?

  • BagLady

    Looking at the US troop diaspora, I too would see a weakened US with little appetite for further expansion.

    • Wolfthatknowsall

      When has America “expanded”. We could have, over the decades. But we didn’t.

      Americans don’t want empire. They want peace, stability, and opportunity. And … yes … I read the article you linked to. It is misleading caricature of the real America.

    • A Z

      Where ever the Soviets or their client states were we needed to be.

      Or did you conveniently ignore that fact?

      Would rather the Germans be speaking Russian?

  • edlancey

    What business is it of America’s anyway ? The USA invented the phoney geopolitical term “Hemishpere” to justify meddling in Central and South America whilst retaining the right to poke their nose in everywhere else. Is that a feature and not a bug ?

    The EU, who have ridden on the US taypayer’s coat-tails since WWII while sneering at their lack of health spending, is responsible for interfering in Ukraine without being able to back it up. Now they are going to pay the price, either through increased oil prices, or having to (officially) let the barbarians through the gates.

    The cruellest outcome of this is that it immeasurably strengthens Turkey’s bargaining position to join the EU since they can now effectively hold the EU to ransom over the gas pipeline scheduled to pass through there.

    And that would be a much greater disaster than a few fascists in Ukraine not getting their way.

    In fact, the supreme irony is that the only person who understands the magnitude of the disaster in embedding Turkey in the EU is Putin, not Erdogan’s best pal Obama.

    It’s a funny old world.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Putin is going to make it our business one way or another. This isn’t just about Ukraine just like it wasn’t about Georgia. It’s about the Eurasian Union being rebuilt as a USSR without the Communism.

      • edlancey

        The truth is that neither side has stopped fighting the Cold War but, if anything, the Russians have acted in better faith. America has spent billions chipping away in the Balkans, Georgia, Ukraine and no doubt in the Caspian Stans – and trillions in Afghanistan. Add in the attempts to buy Russian oil reserves in the ’90s and you can hardly blame Putin for being wary.

        If the West offered an alliance with Russia to fight the real enemy – the RoP – then Putin would bite our hand off.

        Sadly it isn’t going to happen but you surely don’t expect Putin to bend over and take it, do you ?

        • reader

          Nonsense. Russians are interested in mudding waters in the Middle East to keep oil market jittery. One thing that the KGB learned in the eighties is that plummeting oil prices are the kiss of death for Moscow. The irony is that the biggest and seemingly unsolvable geopolitical threat to Russia is China. Chinese are quitely taking over vast territories East of Ural mountains just by virture of demographics.

          • edlancey

            mudd(y)ing waters in the Middle East !!!

            They are hardly alone in that endeavour. I don’t remember them invading Iraq, or grovelling to the Saudis (Bush) or the MB (Obama).

            Also, the Saudis need $80 a barrel to help pay off the local have-nots so Russia is hardly unique in that.

          • reader

            Wether they’re alone or not is not the point. The point is that your suggestion about the offer is silly.

          • edlancey

            You need to learn some manners. Perhaps “nonsense” and “silly” have a certain charm in whatever jumble of dross it is that passes for your native language, but not in English.

          • reader

            Yes, nonsense and silly are swahili words. They stand for clever and ingenius. There’s another one for you: lame. This is a comment thread, for crying out loud.

      • logdon

        Is that a bad thing?

        Seems a better bet than the Eurabian Union the EU is foisting upon us.

        In fact it chimes perfectly with your rogue nation theory in that they’ll be serious about the far greater threat coming from Islam.

      • A Z

        Michael Medved (1) & at lest one PJ Media blogger, Kim Zigfeld, do not think that Crimea was such a smooth move for Putin. Medved pointed out Russians anemic 1.2% growth. But our growth is not that great & I have believed that the BLS has been lying for 2 years now. U.S. 4th quarter growth was revised downward by .8%.

        China has been trying to supplant the dollar as the reserve currency for 3 to 5 years now. They have made some inroads. So If China, Russia, Iran & some other got together, they could withstand economic sanction IMO. I would have to run some numbers to be sure, but it could be done. It really is starting to look like 1984. Africa looks different than it does in the book, but if you look at Africa it really does look like a battle ground economically and out & out warfare. Zimbabwe has pegged its’ currency to the Chinese currency. I think Zimbabwe has bottomed out. It could have been so much more , but the ruling elites have killed or run off anyone they did not want to share wealth with. China has a lot to say about Zimbabwe economically and militarily.

        (1) I like Michael Medved, but do not always agree with him. I believe he supported McCain during to 2008 primaries (facepalm).

        http://pjmedia.com/blog/putins-crimea-adventure-has-the-russian-economy-in-freefall/

    • 11bravo

      ” or having to (officially) let the barbarians through the gates”.
      Is that what you really want? The soviets – the Chi-coms – or Islam being the dominant global player. Or it is us – who do you chose?

      • edlancey

        Me ? It’s not an alluring choice but since you ask, for me it’s ABI – Anyone But Islam.

    • logdon

      Turkey will not get into the EU.

      France is dead against it and as the second in the EU pecking order and despite the rapidly unfolding stature of the nation still act as arbiters.

      Add in the imbroglio unfolding in Turkey and there’s another reason.

      • edlancey

        “Getting in” for them just means Visa-free travel which sadly they are on track to get very soon – after having successfully blackmailed the EU over letting every Tom, Abdul and Mo traverse Turkey into Greece.

        As for France, only MLP would veto Turkey, the rest talk tough but grovel in practice – Hollande being particularly Dhimm-tastic.

        • Drakken

          The Turks aren’t going to get visa free travel, the Germans, Austrians and Poland will not let them period.

      • edlancey

        They are on track for visa-free travel, which is all they are after.

        They will try to accelerate that in return for any gas pipeline by blackmailing the EU.

        It’s what they do.

        • logdon

          You’re right.

          That is unless the place descends into another ‘Spring’.

          And the consequences may not quite be as the Eu expects.

          Europe, and by that I mean the people is now pretty much cognisant with Islam and the prospect of free access to 80 million is beyond the Pale.

      • Drakken

        The Germans and Austrians as well don’t want any more Turks in their midst, so the chance of Turkey getting EU membership is nill.

    • American Patriot

      You are repeating Cuban Communist propaganda. It is Communist Cuba that is currently ruling Chavista Venezuela with an iron fist, you Marxist lunatic. It is Communist Cuba and its puppet state, Chavista Venezuela, that meddles in the internal politics of Puerto Rico, a U.S. territory, by trying to force the island to secede from the United States in order to install a Communist totalitarian dictatorship in San Juan, even though the majority of Puerto Ricans are socially conservative and wish for PR to become the 51st state of the American Union. Why don’t you condemn the Soviet Union and the fascist states for meddling in Spain during the Spanish civil war? Why don’t you condemn the Soviet Union for taking over almost all of Eastern Europe after World War II? Edlancey, you are a anti-American, pro-Communist totalitarian Stalinist/Maoist. Fact-check, you loon.

      • edlancey

        Fact-check you as well, you slavering cholo.

  • Maggie

    It does take a rogue nation to stop a rogue nation, but I don’t believe that you can compare what Putin is doing to what Hitler did.. Some might say Lincoln did the same thing during the civil war, not allowing the south freedom.. and how many died in that conflict. If Putin starts gassing Millions, and invades other countries that were never a part of the Soviet Union, then we might consider getting involved. Until then, there are too many issues at home that need our time and money.

    • Thomas L. Stafford

      Sure you can Hitler was in the process of recreating the Napoleonic Empire. A collection of territories and peoples that included Germany, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Austria, France, most of Poland, some of the Ukraine, Italy, most of Greece, and Spain. His aspirations were greater than that but that was his first goal.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Napoleonic? Try Roman.

        The standards the national Socialists carried were based on the Roman ones.

        • Thomas L. Stafford

          I’ll go with that. I went with Napoleonic because of the megalomaniacal factors involved.

      • Maggie

        Were those countries ever a part of Germany? and how many Jews has Putin gassed lately?

  • 11bravo

    Thanks for the pep-talk Dan. Now lets bomb Iran Dammit!!!

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      DEATH to the islamofascist regime of iran!

      HANG the aytollahs!

      LONG LIVE PERSIA!

      BTW comrade 11bozo, when is your protest over your comrade Putins invasion of the Crimea and the Ukraine????

      • 11bravo

        You must have thought I was kidding.
        N. Korea would be next on the list.
        If I were elected in 2016 I would get my military leaders together immediately, and come up with a plan. At the same time I would move massive amounts of war fighting equipment all around Iran.
        I would give them a 30 day ultimatum. US inspectors in – or after 30 days your demise will be at the time of our choosing. No UN. US inspectors only. If they refuse entry, we pull them out. If they take hostages, we try for a rescue, but bomb no matter what!
        I would fake them out pushing men and equipment, but make it a total air war for 30 days. Conventional warheads from subs, tomahawks, stealth fighters on radar and communication sites, and then send in the B-2′s and carrier aircraft. I might even be up to a test of our ballistic missiles in Kansas, with a conventional war head of course. That will make the Rooskies, and the Chi-coms take notice.
        I would make a HUGE deal out of the fact that the JEEEEEWS were front and center in all the fighting right along side of us.
        I would then SHAME all of the rest of Europe, and western civilization to remember, freedom isn’t free. Man up and defend yourselves, and your way of life.

      • Well Done

        Ukrainia included the Crimea at Russia’s pleasure. The thrill is, apparently, gone.

  • Servo1969

    Weakness invites aggression, Strength precludes aggression.
    Obama and people like him believe the exact opposite:
    Strength precludes peace, Weakness invites peace.

    So many people are going to die.

  • GuyGreen

    As they say about pitchers in a groove, Daniel paints the black with low gas. Called strike three, Mr. Obama. Take your seat.

  • johnlittle

    Well said Mr. Greenfield. Obama, the left-wing sycophant, does not understand that Clausewitz was offering a caveat in his statement that suggested peace can easily be achieved by meeting the enemy with open arms as they cross over the border of your country.

    The Russian initiative, here, quickly brings to mind Danzig, 1939.

    Cordially, John Little, Sr.

  • Benjamin

    Are you saying that the US should draw red lines it intends to keep, and that Ukraine isn’t one of them? I agree that we should not take Israel-hating international organizations seriously, if at all.

  • Texas Patriot

    The idea that international borders are fixed and inviolable is counterintuitive, counterfactual, and counterhistorical. The truth is that territorial jurisdiction has always been in a state of flux and the idea of permanency of territory is, and has always been, an illusion. My take is that we are now moving into a period of rapid realignment and reordering of regional hegemonies and international borders in order to counter the emerging threat of international Islamic jihad, and the Russian annexation of the historically disputed portions of the Ukraine is merely an early stage of this overall process. Instead of complaining about the Russians taking action to protect their own regional hegemony, my thought is that the Israelis should take note and be prepared to do the same in order to protect and preserve their own borders, their own territories, and their own people from ongoing and future external aggression in the context of the emerging reality of international Islamic jihad.

    • RMthoughts

      Thank you. Borders follow socio-political and historical realities and not a line drawn on a piece of paper by globalist powers.

      • Well Done

        That view of borders would solve a lot of problems in the Middle East, where rather arbitrary borders drawn on a map in Europe have pitted historical foes against each other for control of the same “country”.

  • Lanna

    This invasion of Ukraine is not about promoting Democracy, it is about forcing people who love freedom to accept Communism! Obama is not going to have any influence on this, because Obama and the US government are on the same coin as Putin.

    • Maggie

      I disagree, Russia is no longer Communist, they deeply critize obama’s push for socialism in this country.. Putin stated “Any fourth grade history student knows socialism has failed in every country, at every time in history,” said Putin. “President Obama and his fellow Democrats are either idiots or deliberately trying to destroy their own economy.”

      • Well Done

        I choose b) “deliberately trying to destroy their own economy”. My life experience tells me never to assume people are doing the wrong thing, again and again, by accident.

        • CaoMoo

          well done well said :)

    • RMthoughts

      I disagree, as well. The revolution in Ukraine was funded and promoted by the USA and Eu with globalist petrol-chemical interest. Putin has no choice but to react.
      Crimea, Georgia/Alania/Ossetia, and Ukraine — did anyone notice a common denominator in all these Russia so-called “invasions”? they have all been part of the Russian Empire federation since the 17th and 18th centuries, or as in the case of Ukraine, before.
      All the war hawks are crying Putin is re-establishing the Soviet Union. Putin knows the 80 year imposition of communism was a disaster and will leave that to Obama. He is deleting the 80 year communist era and putting back together a Russian Federation as it existed in the empire with its sphere of influence and supported by Orthodox Christianity.

      • reader

        So, how do you reconcile that with Putin saying that the collapse of the Soviet Union had been the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century?

        • RMthoughts

          I don’t. It is one of two things: either he is a Russian nationalist and considers the collapse of communism was a catastrophe to Russia. Or, he is a communist and the collapse of communism is a catastrophe to international communism.
          His later actions, flat tax, privatizations, mandatory religious education, support of the Orthodox Church, limiting abortion, adding chaplains to the military, vignettes about his being Christian, all tend to direct us to the first of the two hypothesis. But then, who really knows.

          • reader

            Putin did not privatize anything. He nationalized back quite a few industries. Privatization programs had been conducted in the 90s under Eltsin. As far as the Church, it had been long ago incorporated into the KGB – all the way back to 1941, when Stalin’s Red Army collapsed and he had been quoted to say that his people would not fight for the World Revolution but they would hopefully fight for Mother Russia.

          • Mila

            The KGB persecuted so much the Orthodox that I wonder if you even know what you are talking about at all.

        • Well Done

          It’s not up to us to “reconcile” what Putin has said with anything.

          The end of the Soviet Union was the end of a heinously brutal exercise, and, geopolitically, it was a significant event. It affected the economies of many countries whose economy had been throttled for years by Soviet “scientific socialism”, which in turn had the solid support of the West’s academic left.

          It is important, though, to remember that the world’s hard left fell all over themselves excusing the many missteps of the Soviet Union. Some of the left’s most pompous foghorns were staunch defenders – apologists – for Moscow. They and their devoted followers have no moral room to demand action against Putin, now. With a Marxist subversive like 0bama running America, Russia is becoming a beacon of economic success and military power in the West. By default.

          • reader

            Russia’s “economic success” is one oil market collapse away from being a complete disaster and another “geopolitical catastrophe”.

        • Mila

          It has been. Who has been putting a check on the sunni based terrorist organizations, the Muslim Brotherhood if you will? Russia. Who has been keeping the shia fighting with the sunni? People are stuck on a cold war mentality and don’t see the larger picture.

  • Maggie

    you are comparing the jewish holocaust with a attention grabbing rock group?

    • 11bravo

      No. I am pointing out Russia has never closed their forced/slave labor camps – and they were MUCH WORSE than Hitler’s.
      40 effing million dead from Lenin and Stalin maybe 70 million, no one is exactly sure.
      The Russia you know was really the ONLY country truly built by slaves. Millions and millions of nameless, faceless human beings that were used up and buried from history (except a few escaped to write about it), sometimes while still alive.
      China did even worse! That is what the left in the west just never tells you about there ideology. But I digress.
      I would however like you to read what Lenin and Stalin wanted – and their programs. Then look at the agenda of the left in any country – especially the US.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        national SOCIALISTS AKA nazis and Soviet SOCIALISTS.

  • LewisWetzel

    If only I could get the blinders off my liberal friends who refuse to even read the wisdom of conservative thought on international affairs. In their hearts they know Obama is weak, ineffective, and ultimately bad for the country, but their egos will not let them acknowledge it. This was an outstanding analysis!

    • Daniel Greenfield

      thank you

  • Gamal

    I am on the side of the people who want Ukraine to join the West and I know it’s in my interest for the Ukraine to be aligned with the U.S. instead of Russia. On the other hand I don’t know what majority of Ukrainians want. Certainly many want to be aligned with Europe but according to news reports a lot of East Ukraine and Crimea is full of people who want to be aligned with Russia. The unknown information here is was the former leader of the Ukraine elected in a fair election? If he was then he is the rightful leader of Ukraine and the way to overthrow him is with another fair election. Putin may be right when he says the overthrow of the leader of the Ukraine was unconstitutional.

    • Well Done

      The Ukraine wanted to join the EU, not the United States. Arguable, joining the EU would be one of the biggest blunders made by the Ukraines, ever. It would cost them a few hundred million dollars. What they would get in return are rules governing the size and weight of cabbage rolls and a crippled economy. The Ukraine would then have to borrow millions back from the EU. For further facts, see Portugal, Ireland, Spain, Greece, and Italy.

  • Texas Patriot

    It’s time to wake up, Daniel. Russia is a Christian nation with a huge Muslim minority and they’ve been dealing with the unique societal problems associated with supremacist Islamic philosophy for hundreds of years. As a result, it’s probably fair to say that the Russians know more about the true dangers of Islamic jihad than any nation on earth. Therefore, if we are going to have any chance of standing up to, successfully resisting, and ultimately winning against the emerging global forces of Islamic jihad, we’re going to have to stop thinking of the Russians as the enemy and start recognizing them as potentially the best friends and allies we will ever have in this truly gargantuan struggle that is now beginning to threaten the entire world.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Russia is an enemy. That’s their choice, not ours.

      Insisting that Russia should be a friend, won’t change how Putin thinks.

      And while Russia does fight Islamic rebels, it employs Islamic terrorists and Putin’s Eurasian Union is based on a Muslim population.

      • Texas Patriot

        DG: “Russia is an enemy. That’s their choice, not ours.”

        You could not possibly be more mistaken about that. But it does explain the majority of your posts in recent days. In the entire time I have been following your work, this is the first time I’ve found you to be so completely and flatfootedly wrong about such an important geopolitical fact. Russia helped us enormously in defeating Hitler and the Nazis, and they will help us enormously in defeating the worldwide scourge of Islamic jihad. It is true that they have a lot of ground to make up for their Soviet Communist past, but the Christian revival in Russia is real, deep-rooted, and very strong, and I look for the Russian people to be among the foremost champions of authentic Judeo-Christian values going forward in the 21st Century. Sorry to say it, Daniel, but my guess is that this will be the second cup of coffee you will end up owing me.

        • Guess

          Well said.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          I think you’re conflating. For the most part, I’m talking about the regime, not the potential for a people to be aligned with us. I assume most others are doing the same.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          And by the way that is exactly why a pragmatic and nuanced approach to “engagement” with all of the options truly on the table (not rhetorically, which usually means the opposite of the literal meaning) we could empower like-minded souls to groom an effective leadership and perhaps see a constitutional representative democracy bloom with a lot of the same values proven so well here in the USA – before so many people started lying about it. Certainly there were many that tried.

          As it is, the jihadis and leftists denied us that chance and indirectly had a hand in helping the crypto-fascists build their power in Russia. That’s just the reality right now.

          • Well Done

            LOL “crypto fascist” “crypto fascist” “crypto fascist” “crypto fascist” “crypto fascist” “crypto fascist”… you’re an idiot.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            1cryp·to noun ˈkrip-(ˌ)tō
            plural cryptos
            Definition of CRYPTO
            1: a person who adheres or belongs secretly to a party, sect, or other group
            2: cryptography 2
            Origin of CRYPTO
            crypt-
            First Known Use: 1946
            2crypto adjective
            Definition of CRYPTO
            1: not openly avowed or declared —often used in combination – [crypto-fascist]
            2: cryptographic

          • objectivefactsmatter

            http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.html

            Excerpt: As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalist veneer. The word derives from fasces, the Roman symbol of collectivism and power: a tied bundle of rods with a protruding ax. In its day (the 1920s and 1930s), fascism was seen as the happy medium between boom-and-bust-prone liberal capitalism, with its alleged class conflict, wasteful competition, and profit-oriented egoism, and revolutionary Marxism, with its violent and socially divisive persecution of the bourgeoisie. Fascism substituted the particularity of nationalism and racialism—“blood and soil”—for the internationalism of both classical liberalism and Marxism.

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        • Daniel Greenfield

          ” Russia helped us enormously in defeating Hitler and the Nazis, and they
          will help us enormously in defeating the worldwide scourge of Islamic
          jihad.”

          That analogy might be more right than you know considering that Russia allied with Hitler to set off WW2.

          The Russian people are also a separate item from Putin and his mafia. You will find that the Russian support for Putin has been overstated by propagandists.

          Ditto for Putin’s support for Judeo-Christian values.

          • Texas Patriot

            Daniel, just be patient. The pieces of the strategic alliance we will need to defeat the forces of Islamic jihad are already falling into place. When the Russians effectively acquiesce in our destruction of the Iranian nuclear weapons complex, perhaps you will begin to see what I mean.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            I share your idealism and hopefulness. It’s just that I’m a bit more skeptical based on my analysis of the real world situation. I hope I’m wrong.

          • Texas Patriot

            Don’t worry. The deal has been done. Putin needed something for standing aside on Iran. He got the Ukraine. Now the ball is in Iran’s court. We’ll see if they still want to call Obama’s hand.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            I’ll send you a kilo of some very good coffee if 0′Bama takes out Iran’s nukes.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact AKA Socialist SHlTler / Socialist Stalin non-Aggression Pact

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

      • American Patriot

        I wish there was a Yeltsin-like leader governing Russia. At least Yeltsin was a ally of the West.

  • Mila

    c’mon people you still think Russia is a communist nation even though it stopped Obama in Syria, sends aid to the Egyptians to combat the Muslim Brotherhood, warned about Benghazi, c’mon. Don’t be stuck in it. If Russia doesn’t have Ukraine, then the Ukraine will FALL to the Muslim Brotherhood that is in control of the EU. And then what, Chechnya,….. c’mon think!!!!! It’s not about communism versus the US. It’s about a much more different animal. Remember how we gave Kosovo to the Muslims and stole it from the Serbs? Now think of those poor Christians in Crimea. I wonder if the Muslim Tartars from Crimea will soon demand they be independent.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      They’re not idealistic communists. But they have at their disposal most of the political the tools of the Soviets. They’re using those tools to build a crypto-fascist empire.

      “It’s not about communism versus the US. It’s about a much more different animal.”

      That’s true.

      • Mila

        So tell me how is it stopping Obama at Syria, helping Egypt fix what Obama did building a crypto-fascist empire?

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “So tell me how is it stopping Obama at Syria, helping Egypt fix what Obama did building a crypto-fascist empire?”

          Russia is aligned with non-Sunni terrorists. America is now aligned with Sunni terrorists and the states that sponsor them.

          It’s Chinese checkers, not Western. Russia is clearly a crypto-fascist state that wants to reconstitute its empire. You dispute this?

          As liberty loving Americans, we’re happy when Russian fascists AND radical leftists (most of the leaders are tilting radical these days) AND jihadis fail.

          • Mila

            Let me shine some light here, Obama, et al are aligned with the Muslim Brotherhood. Russia is doing great in keeping the non-Sunni strong. If you have a tiger and a lion in the world, you don’t put the tiger on a cage, as the lion then turns to you and eats you alive. You keep them both fighting with eachother. Keep the sunni busy fighting the shia and other non-western nations. Capiche!

          • objectivefactsmatter

            I’ve said many times that with a strong and competent POTUS that Russia would go along with our global agenda almost entirely and focus on regional hegemony through peaceful means.

            Right now on the global stage, Russia is building a new empire, keeping the Sunnis in check and attacking our global hegemony. Because we have a POTUS that attacks everything that makes us great.

            As someone that believes our (US) hegemony to be a good thing in most scenarios, I’d prefer that Russia didn’t have a clear path to build a neo-fascist empire.

          • Mila

            I say you must learn what your government is doing. Now I understand that your current government does not represent the old America we know. And the old America would have never supported what Obama is doing now. Russia is not only right in putting a check on the Sunnis who are being supported by your administration.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Now I understand that your current government does not represent the old America we know. And the old America would have never supported what Obama is doing now.”

            Substitute “old” for “rational” and you’re 100% correct.

            “Russia is not only right in putting a check on the Sunnis who are being supported by your administration.”

            If that was all they were doing, I would certainly view it differently. But it’s not.

          • Mila

            Fact remains that it is not rational now, is it? That was the old United States.
            And yes, that is all it’s doing. It’s preventing it from falling into the EU which is a mere franchise of the Muslim Brotherhood.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            I don’t disagree except as noted. I’m also not fatalistic so my solution is not the throw my hands in the air and sigh. I’d rather help restore sanity to the USA.

          • Mila

            Yes I agree with that too, but I think the insanity of the USA primarily comes from a minority who is in power now and unfortunately its actions are not only domestically, but also internationally. It is your government who incited the so-called Spring in the Middle-east, aka the surge of the Muslim Brotherhood taking control of the region. Who stopped that, and who is aiding say the Egyptians to combat that? It was Russia. The problem is that you have an administration with interest of international powers. It must be fought on every front. Domestically and internationally… It is not Americans (American interest) governing your country. Ukraine must not fall into the hands of the EU which will be equivalent with falling into the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “…I think the insanity of the USA primarily comes from a minority who is in power now and unfortunately its actions are not only domestically, but also internationally.”

            Yeah. It’s a problem. We can’t destroy the US constitution to save the US constitution. It’s a long fight doing it constructively or in such a way that “conserves” what we’ve established rather than just destroying enemies without regard for anything else. We’re not that desperate yet. OTOH I do understand the real urgency. It’s just very complicated.

            “It is your government who incited the so-called Spring in the Middle-east, aka the surge of the Muslim Brotherhood taking control of the region. Who stopped that, and who is aiding say the Egyptians to combat that? It was Russia.”

            To the extent that that is true, that doesn’t mean we give up on America’s restoration.

            “The problem is that you have an administration with interest of international powers. It must be fought on every front. Domestically and internationally… It is not Americans (American interest) governing your country. Ukraine must not fall into the hands of the EU which will be equivalent with falling into the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood.”

            I agree that Russia could and should be our ally. The fact that they’re not is not necessarily Russia’s fault given the history. Without the USA, I can see why Russia would be considered the West’s best hope. I get it. I just think that the world is much better off with America as the leading superpower getting along and assisting Russian growth and prosperity rather than throwing itself on a funeral pyre as that idiot in the WH is leading us to do. And there are a few things that Russia can teach Americans about multiculturalism. For example there are or should be rational limits to it. The word itself is a problem. Rational tolerance of diversity is good. Multiculturalism is stupid. It’s a Trojan horse created by big state globalists to create a need for their sovereignty. It’s to destroy the de facto sovereignty of nations by creating intractable problems that get kicked up to international institutions.

          • Mila

            Your current administration is the one instigating the horror the world is living through right now. The only ones putting a check on it are Russia and the Moderates of the Middle-east, aka the Egyptian military. You still don’t believe your state department has not fomented the so-called arab spring? Libya, Egypt, Tunisia…. putting all extreme islamic fundamentalist in power. It’s not the cold war anymore.
            Whether you like or not Russia you have to recognize that it has been the only player on the international stage who has put a check on the uncontrollable Muslim Brotherhood take over of the world via the United States.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            It doesn’t seem like you’re reading what I’ve written.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “If you have a tiger and a lion in the world, you don’t put the tiger on a cage, as the lion then turns to you and eats you alive. You keep them both fighting with eachother. Keep the sunni busy fighting the shia and other non-western nations. Capiche!”

            You’re analogy is better than my Chinese checkers explanation because it has more drama?

        • objectivefactsmatter

          That’s not an attack on the Russian people, but on the current Russian regime.

      • Well Done

        LOL “crypto fascist”? Shut up,will ya? The adults are trying to hold a conversation here.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      “it. If Russia doesn’t have Ukraine, then the Ukraine will FALL to the Muslim Brotherhood that is in control of the EU.”

      Seriously?

      No one is saying that Russia is Communist. It is however an enemy of the US.

      • Mila

        Enemy of this administrations for sure, but then again so am I, I guess.
        And yes, seriously. I guess you missed the part of how the EU is a grand failure and how the Ukraine couldn’t stand by itself. I guess you missed the part where Europe is no longer. Europe has been and it is everyday being taken by Islamo-fascist. YOu should know that. I am European. I haven’t missed that part. I live it daily. Good day

        • Daniel Greenfield

          Enemies of the US in any way shape or form.

          I’m not a fan of the EUSSR, the Euro version or the Putin version.

          • Mila

            I think it’s a great thing to be enemies of Obama, et al. Whether domestically or internationally.

      • American Patriot

        Actually, Russia is neo-Communist, in terms of foreign policy. The United Russia Party is the modern-day Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Russia needs a Yeltsin-like leader in order for the country to be pro-Western like it was during the 1990s. The party’s leadership is nothing more than the Communist Party’s politburo. The URP must be defeated.

    • Well Done

      Yes, Russia looks good lately compared to America, which has sponsored the Moslem Brotherhood while it attempted to establish sharia law in Egypt, sponsored Islamists to overthrow Libya, ignored Somalia and Sudan, and tolerated bona fide Moslem Brotherhood operatives in America, even appointing them to Homeland Security. At high salary, I might add.

      America could use a Vlad Putin. He actually cares about his own country. Maybe 0bama cares about his own country, but that country can’t be America.

  • DontMessWithAmerica

    I would argue with your definition of the word “rogue” but in spirit your summary is accurate, clear, dead on and yet beyond the minds of so many who wield power in the world.

  • Well Done

    I’ve been informed on several occasions that America wasn’t needed in WW2, that America waited “to see who was going to win”, that America had to be rescued by the Aussies in the S. Pacific… I could go on and on.

    These are the stories the hard left have been polluting young minds with for about the last 60 years. No wonder so many people blame America for [your beef here]. No wonder Korean pop stars write heinously anti-American song lyrics, despite living a stone’s throw from a truly heinous regime that they would be living under (if they were ever born) if not for America…. again, I could go on and on.

    America, what have you done? Lock ‘n’ Load!

    • Johnny

      In a lot of ways WWII was not even a two front war because the Japanese were never a serious threat to beat us. They were a dangerous and fanatical enemy, but they were also an island nation. They had to keep their sea lanes open and that required airplanes and ships.

      They had no hope of keeping up with US production of combat equipment. If I remember correctly, they had something like five or six hundred fighters in service at one time, mostly zeros. Meanwhile toward the end of the war, we were producing a thousand airplanes a month.

      • The March Hare

        But, at the beginning of the war in the Pacific we were seriously underequipped. We lost battles and men and it took us a long while to get it turned around. We had to do development and then tool up for production. We had some bitter defeats in the mean time. After WWI the US scrapped most of our equipment and ceased development of new armament and weapons. We had a lot of catching up to do. We never learn. Now we are chopping our military again as if we don’t need it. Well, the very existence of the military is why we don’t need it. Cancelling development doesn’t get put back together very easy. Peace through strength. When we are seen as weak, it invites our enemies to act, but the left is always trying to divert defense money to social programs and are perfectly willing to destroy our military in the process. They just don’t understand how the world really works. They make us weak and that encourages would-be tyrants to rise up and we end up going to war. It is the left that gets us into wars. 911 may have happened when Bush was in office, but it was due to the actions of Clinton that the situation developed.

        • Mila

          “911 may have happened when Bush was in office, but it was due to the actions of Clinton that the situation developed.”

          Especially given the fact that most cells were given visas, did reconnaissance, some started flight school during the Clinton years. I don’t like Bush, but one can definitely say that he did inherit 9/11. And he never blamed his predecessor.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            The entire Clinton approach was to appease Arafat so that all Muslims will love the USA. That’s what he was told and that’s what he believed. Give them all what they ask for. It’s just that Clinton was not as active as 0′Bama in actually chasing the jihadis down to empower them.

  • bigjulie

    Another spot-on analysis, Daniel! Since WWII we have had a problem growing like a cancer, on the body politic. during WWII, we all saw the danger and we all pulled together to support the leftist FDR, who had ideals markedly different from those of the Founders, but whose intent was the formulation of a still-American government, operating on Leftist principles for the United States.
    The “cancer” has now grown to nearly unmanageable proportions, and the interests of the United States are of no consequence to its leaders any more. They have a much more sinister idea, the equalization of results for every member of society, eventually to join us to a global coalition intent on the humdrum, boring sameness for billions, but being under the complete control of a few “elites” who will live in opulence, while they control every last aspect of our daily lives to make sure that we are all sharing the same amount, no matter what any individual’s contribution is.
    Obama considers his duty to America to be presiding over a country-wide game of economic Whack-a-Mole, in the odd belief that producers and innovators will keep right on producing and innovating for their own sakes, without collecting any of the rewards one could expect from an old-fashioned Capitalist economy. He has come to depend on the belief that his citizens are so fearful of being termed “racist” that they will not criticize or condemn any of his actions.
    Unfortunately for him, the Peter Principle never sleeps. He has risen to the level of his own incompetence. Putin has known this for several years, and America is finally waking up to it! We will begin to set the Ship of State aright in November!

  • poetcomic1

    The Crimea is a vital and traditional part of Russia that got casually chopped away (Russian majority and all) and glued to the Ukraine with the collapse of the Soviet Union. Ukraine should just give it back and then go join the European Economic Whorehouse if that is what they want.

  • lyndaaquarius

    every word you write here is true. This article should be studied and discussed,starting in our high schools.How can anyone in their right mind refute your last sentence?

  • Mladen_Andrijasevic

    Off topic: The Crimean Extra-Terrestrials
    http://madisdead.blogspot.co.il/2014/03/off-topic-crimean-extra-terrestrials.html

    Saakashvilli:

    He [Putin] basically almost made fun of the whole world, because he was looking at the camera and so outright shamelessly said: “These are not my troops. Some people purchased some, you know, military garbs, some equipment, you can get them anywhere, they look like Russian troops they behave like Russian troops, but these are not Russian troops they are some, you know, maybe some extra-terrestrials that just pretend and are masquerading to be Russian troops. But the reality is very clear – the guy that can lie like this in the 21st century is dangerous”.

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/3292813269001

  • Horace Yo

    In order to act in our own interests, we need to know what they are. We are operating wearing Leftist Politically Correct self destructive blinders and avoiding the truth about everything from Abortion to Islam to Socialism and Sodomy for so long that we are unable to make rational decisions about anything. Putin , like him or not is more focused on reality and can run rings around us. However our armies of women and homosexuals (after they finish crucifying Generals Petraeus and Sinclair, and McChrystal and the thousands of other “sexual predators” in whats left of the US military causing a mass exodus of real warriors) will protect us.Ha ha.

  • Spirit of Jabotinsky

    “Cowboy diplomacy as a defense against Commissar Diplomacy, Cossack Diplomacy and Caliphate Diplomacy” (paraphrased). Fantastic alliteration! You are a real gift, Daniel G!

  • 20pizzapies

    I Think Dr. Mike Savage is on the wrong page . He says we should keep our “hands off ” Ukraine , it’s none of our business . ???