Liberals Less Likely to Know Earth Revolves Around the Sun than Conservatives

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It’s a difference of 5 to 4 percent, which wouldn’t be that big of a gap on most issues, but is a pretty big gap when it comes to the earth revolving around the sun. And we see that moderates are the dumbest people around, followed by liberals while conservative Republicans are the best informed.

It gets even worse when it comes to astrology.

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Numbers like these makes you wonder how long it will take before the media begins announcing that the science is settled and astrology is real.

The Global Warming Ecoscam has already shown that there are plenty of PhDs who will support any crazy lie as long as it has the right ideological stamp and enough grant money attached to it.

The interesting thing about these numbers is not only that conservative Republicans tend to be more scientifically aware than liberals, a complete reversal of the myth that liberals use to prop up their status, but that liberal Republicans, the Huntsman class, whom one would expect to be better educated, are more prone to ignorance and the so-called moderate Democrats are so ridiculously ignorant.

The liberal Republicans aren’t the smart elite of the party as contrasted with the great unwashed of the Tea Party. Instead the RINOs are more likely to believe in astrology, less likely to know that the earth revolves around the sun and more likely to think that amnesty, Global Warming and price controls work.

It’s the plight of the moderate and conservative Dems though which reveals just how stratified the Democrats are. There aren’t two Americas, but there certainly are two Democratic Parties. One educated and one ignorant.

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Moderates, as you can see, are the dumbest people around. Followed by liberals.

Bonus:

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  • DogmaelJones1

    “Moderates, as you can see, are the dumbest people around. Followed by liberals.” And the sad thing is that they don’t plan on getting any smarter. Getting smarter, after all, they know would compel them to abandon their whole liberal agenda. So they’d rather be ignorant and dumb. I wonder if a study was conducted using crystal balls and tarot cards and telekinesis.

    • tagalog

      That’s why they like big government; it can do their thinking for them.

  • Western Canadian

    Come on now, we all know that ‘liberals’ believe that the world and everything else revolves around them.

    • BS77

      Excellent.

  • NAHALKIDES

    Finally Daniel has unearthed the reason Establishment (i.e. “Moderate”) Republicans think that amnesty for illegal aliens is a good idea – they’re stupid!
    These numbers also suggest that “moderates” are not principled rejectionists of the Republican and Democratic Parties, but are just so uninformed about everything they don’t even know what the issues are much less where the Parties stand on them.

  • Naresh Krishnamoorti

    I’m disappointed in you, Daniel. Ernst Mach’s principle of the equivalence of non-inertial frames gave new impetus to the Tychonian system, so that it is fully plausible to say that the sun orbits the earth. http://arxiv.org/pdf/1301.6045.pdf

    • Tycho

      Naresh, I am glad you pointed this out. Most people that consider themselves scientifically aware do not know this information. Thanks

    • truebearing

      Very interesting, but not being an astrophysicist, I can’t legitimately vote. It does raise questions, however. Is the universe, including its laws, constantly morphing so that the Newtons, Einsteins, and Tychos of the world will never be right for long? Could we call it the “Maya effect?”

      • Naresh Krishnamoorti

        The universe and its laws are constant, but our understanding and our perspectives evolve. In this case, it is literally a shift in perspective that allows us to say one or the other model is right, and that no model is definitive.

  • nev il-pinto

    Hi,

    can i ask where these statistics come from, who did the research and how was the information obtained (eg. focus groups, telephone interviews)

    thanks

    • A Z

      You made the same trolling remarks at his story:

      “71% of Obama Voters Regret Voting for Obama”

      http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/71-of-obama-voters-regret-voting-for-obama/

    • A Z

      Besides decrying Narcotics Anonymous, Christians and crying foul over pointing out the problem of Muslim immigration in Europe do you have anything else to do with your time?

    • Steeloak

      You don’t really want to know, but since you asked, they came from here: http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/data_access/data/datasets/general_social_survey.html
      I noticed the caption NORC GSS 2012 on the charts posted, so a quick Google search of that phrase returned the answer you were so desperately wanting to dismiss as right-wing bunk. Happy reading!

    • Berceuse

      It’s data collected by the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago, under the highly respected General Social Survey program. GSS data are collected via a series of face-to-face interviews.

  • tickletik

    Win! You trolled a troll! And lulz for all!

  • nopeacenow

    Gee and I thought the earth revolves around Obama.

  • nev il-pinto

    yes, i did make the same comment because the sources were equally difficult to locate.

    most people would put something like ‘figures obtained from YouGov show 71% of people…’ or put a link in at the bottom of the article, rather than just hiding the link away in the body of the text

    when did i mention anything about NA, christians and muslim immigration into europe(?!)

    you guys are just itching for a fight, aren’t you? i came to ask a couple of reasonable questions about some strange figures and i get called every name under the sun, trying to be polite when i get these message board kings, who would never, despite their online proclamations, say these things to my face, going off on me and making assumptions about who i am or what i do

    and you guys think you’re the hope of the US?

    enjoy your circle jerk fellas

    • Daniel Greenfield

      If people were itching for a fight wouldn’t they be fighting you?

    • A Z

      There is your whole history up to the date of this post. You did mention the NA (Narcotics Anonymous).
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      Discussion on FrontPage Magazine
      Liberals Less Likely to Know Earth Revolves Around the Sun than Conservatives

      nev il-pinto • a day ago

      yes, i did make the same comment because the sources were equally difficult to locate.

      most people would put something like ‘figures obtained from YouGov show 71% of people…’ or put a link in at the bottom of the article, rather than just hiding the link away in the body of the text

      when did i mention anything about NA, christians and muslim immigration into europe(?!)

      you guys are just itching for a fight, aren’t you? i came to ask a couple of reasonable questions about some strange figures and i get called every name under the sun, trying to be polite when i get these message board kings, who would never, despite their online proclamations, say these things to my face, going off on me and making assumptions about who i am or what i do

      and you guys think you’re the hope of the US?

      enjoy your circle jerk fellas

      nev il-pinto • a day ago

      Hi,

      can i ask where these statistics come from, who did the research and how was the information obtained (eg. focus groups, telephone interviews)

      thanks
      Discussion on FrontPage Magazine
      71% of Obama Voters Regret Voting for Obama

      nev il-pinto • a day ago

      wow so it looks like im not allowed a right of reply. i’ll assume the post was moderated because i used ‘unt’ instead of ‘***’ rather than as an act of the thought police but we’ll carry on regardless

      why am i stupid, worthless, soulless, evil, parasitic? is it because i missed the link or because i questioned something you seem to have a fair bit invested in?

      as for my suicide, any suggestions? i’m really worried about getting it wrong because i am so worthless. you mention a car but what if that only left me crippled? then i could still reproduce more children to make posts that get you angry, and we couldn’t have that, could we

      anyway… i dont intent to argue with you because when fighting with an idiot, from a distance it is often difficult to tell who is who.

      but one question, do you realise how stupid you sound getting so angry at such a minor matter?

      regards
      nev

      nev il-pinto • a day ago

      ok

      after a bit of clicking i’ve found the research was conducted by YouGov, who have a very interesting webpage, again obviously aimed at a certain demographic

      their methodology for collecting data can only really be described as suspect (tho they are certainly not the only ones to use this).

      basically these statistics were collected by a company that has a database of paid/rewarded research participants that would appear to contain conservative minded people, meaning the results are very biased.

      this is not a random sample of americans but a random sample of right leaning americans

      you would do better to gain your statistics from more reputable sources, especially if you intend posting them on the front page of your magazine

      regards,
      nev

      nev il-pinto • a day ago

      Hi

      can i ask where these figures and research comes from? this is the second time i have had to ask this question as journalists on this site do not cite their sources when publishing figures, despite using them to back up inflammatory claims (or ‘i told you so’s).

      even a 1st year student knows this is very poor journalism.

      obviously this site is geared towards a certain demographic, that’s fine, but wouldn’t your stories be much more convincing if you were able to cite where these amazing figures come from?

      im not calling anyone a liar or trying to start a fight but the lack of the most basic info about these statistics is incredible.

      regards
      nev
      Discussion on CNN
      Addicts shoot up in safe haven in Canada

      nev il-pinto • 10 months ago

      you obviously obviously haven’t read the comments very well.

      every second bigoted finger wagger on here is screaming ‘ooooh but it’s their choice’

      nev il-pinto • 10 months ago

      my god you are amazing!

      where is the evidence to back up these claims you make? (users dont care about clean needles, canada, germany & denmark are going to disappear because of immigrants)

      needle availability in the US is ridiculous. many states do not allow needle exchanges while pharmacists refuse to sell needles to people based on their own prejudices.

      also this facility (and others all over the world) is also used by law abiding people who have well paid jobs and have not committed a single crime (besides obtaining & using drugs) Do these people deserve to be found dead in an alley or cheap motel room simply because they prefer heroin to alcohol?

      Narcotics Anonymous is made up of narrow minded christians. I would not recommend any one who seriously wants to get off drugs have anything to do with them

      nev il-pinto • 10 months ago

      ohhh so your a racist as well?

      maybe have a look at the situation in Australia before you start making your claims about national viability

    • A Z

      “Narcotics Anonymous is made up of narrow minded christians” -nev il-pinto

    • A Z

      There is your take on Muslim immigration to Europe below posted below

      http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/11/world/americas/wus-canada-drug-safe-haven/index.html#comment-867412399

      You started the name calling. The person to who you replied did not.
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      John Ogle • 10 months ago

      If you are in the U.S.A., they will throw you in prison for life with murderers and other violent criminals – often for life – if you are addicted to opiates or just about any other kind of “street drug.” In Louisiana, there was a guy who was given a 90 year prison sentence for possession of a small amount of heroin. I remember it made the news when he turned 80, was eligible for parole, and the law refused to let him out of Angola State Prison (a truly awful, horrible place full of abuse) for this crime he was convicted of in the 60′s. Apparently he was a New Orleans jazz musician and the state of Louisiana decided it would be a good idea to make an example of him. Things have gotten worse since then. I am also suddenly reminded of – also in Louisiana – a man who made the news when he received a life sentence in prison for possession with intent to distribute marijuana. He was convicted to life in prison for marijuana. This made the news just two years ago. Needless to say, these men were both black. (I do not live in LA, but I once did and I keep up with what goes on there). Terrible state, full of human rights abuses like much of the southern conservative U.S. The U.S. led global “War on Drugs” is one of the stupidest and saddest chapters in the short history of this sinking ship of an empire called U.S.A. Meanwhile, Canada is one of the happiest, healthiest, and most prosperous nations on the planet, This is why conservatives hate Canada and any other so-called “liberal” country like Denmark or Germany, where people are actually happy and well educated. I guess these American conservatives would rather live in conservative countries like Iran or Saudi Arabia. I wish they would just move there. A certain opiate addict named Rush Limbaugh should lead the way.

      Reply

      grandpaguam > John Ogle • 10 months ago

      Denmark and Germany are in the last generation. They don’t have enough babies and they don’t assimilate immigrants. Canada too is starting to circle the demographic drain of history and will soon follow the Danes and Germans and go the way of the Etruscans. The only demographically (and economically) viable industrialized nation happens to be the U.S.A.

      Reply

      nev il-pinto > grandpaguam • 10 months ago

      ohhh so your a racist as well?

      maybe have a look at the situation in Australia before you start making your claims about national viability

  • Douglas J. Bender

    Oh, but you CAN “tow” the party line. As long as it’s red and trumpeted by Obama, and you’re a Democrat, and you are moving it to a more politically-convenient location.

    • glpage

      Can we get them to tow it to Cuba, please?

  • Douglas J. Bender

    “When Jupiter aligns with Mars… .” (I can’t remember if that was a line of a song by the Fifth Dimension, or the Fourth Estate.)

    • tagalog

      The song was titled something like “This Is the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius” and is a show tune from the play Hair. The Fifth Dimension sang a popular version of the song for the radio, but it was quite popular with everyone for quite a while.

      • Douglas J. Bender

        Thank you. But I was trying to make a joke about the liberal media, actually. :)

  • DogmaelJones1

    The exchange between Daniel and DGJC was illustrative of why it’s pointless to argue with a liberal. A liberal’s mind is set, not in concrete, but in mush.

  • Tim N

    Is this serious? Who in the Western World doesn’t know the Earth revolves around the Sun?
    So let’s see– only 32.7% of Conservative Republicans are too stupid to know the Earth revolves around the Sun, compared to 36% of Liberal Democrats.
    Well there’s one we can wear with pride.
    I don’t know, maybe I just move in rarefied circles, but I can’t think of anyone I ever knew of anyone of any stripe who doesn’t know that.

    • nick

      Test

  • Berceuse

    This is the party that believes we are literally warming the earth, that an elected official can cool and recede the ocean, that 15 percent unemployment is really only seven percent if you squint and tilt your head just right, that massive employment losses are “liberating” workers from jobs they don’t like — the party that gave us national Jim Crow laws, the KKK, eugenics and the rank-and-file embrace of every foreign tyrant who ever fantasized the destruction of our republic. The sun revolving around the earth? That actually sounds sensible by comparison.

    • uptownsteve

      Please stop this nonsense. The IDEOLOGY that gave us Jim Crow, racism, the KKK, eugenics etc is CONSERVATISM.

      • Berceuse

        You are engaging in the kind of sun-around-the-earth thinking discussed above. Bigotry is not partisan. Otherwise, as a racist and antisemite, you would be compelled to identify yourself as a conservative.

        Three quick facts for you: 1) Wilson, the father of American progressivism, was also the father of Jim Crow. 2) Democrats who created and supported the KKK were FDR New Dealers. 3) Margaret Sanger, leftist patron saint and founder of Planned Parenthood, advocated forced sterilization of blacks, calling them unfit to procreate.

        Look it up for yourself. Read your history.

      • Wolfthatknowsall

        I’m absolutely positive that the eugenics leader Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, voted straight Republican. Aren’t you?

      • glpage

        Stevie, you REALLY need to study history, the real American history, not that crap put out there by Howard Zinn. The KKK was an offshoot of the Democratic party in Indiana. Margaret Sanger was a progressive who called for eugenics and was praised by Hitler and, as others have noted here, started Planned Parenthood. The Republican party was founded in the 1800′s with its focus on ending slavery. It is going to be real difficult for you to believe, the indoctrination must be pretty deep, but, progressivism as defined and practiced is actually regressive, it works at reducing freedom and liberty.

        • Wolfthatknowsall

          I mention the KKK in Indiana, below. I didn’t notice your comment.

          Indiana is … if I am correct … the only state to become politically-dominated by the Klan. Indeed, many people believe that the living, beating heart of the Klan in America, today, is the town of Elwood (about 40 miles nnw of Indianapolis). And all of these Klansmen were … you guessed it! … Democrats.

      • tagalog

        Really? How come the Jim Crow laws existed in the Solid South along with the KKK, and racism has been just as well-displayed in socialist and communist countries as elsewhere, and eugenics was the phony science of such progressives as Margaret Sanger?

      • Omar

        You are one stupid motherf**k*r, you loon. Conservatism didn’t create those things. Modern Conservatism is true liberalism, which is classical liberalism. You are not a real liberal. You are a radical leftist who supports Islamist terrorism against Jews and others. Fact-check.

      • FlyingScottishTerrier

        KKK definately Democrat. Senator Byrd was a member of the KKK.
        Socialist are the same as today’s liberals… NAZI stands for National Socialist Party
        Jim Crow Laws… just Google it… Democrat written all over it.
        Try again… this time use some facts… but that would mandate you turn in your Marxist Card.

  • truebearing

    So what do moderates know?

    • Sharps Rifle

      Not a whole lot.

  • Seek

    Political self-definition isn’t necessarily accurate. Most blacks, for example, might call themselves “liberal,” but have no idea what liberalism is. They just want the free goods at the expense of “Da Man.” I would wager that a great many of the so-called “liberals” who deny the earth revolves around the sun are simply semi-educated blacks and Hispanics.

  • UCSPanther

    Such arrogance from a Liberal (Referring to the screenshot). I strongly suspect the reasoning there has more to do with indoctrination than with any kind of “Education”. It is probably akin to trying to discuss politics with a hardcore Marxist. They will always insist their ideology is superior despite evidence to the contrary, and refuse to discuss it further when pressed. Ideology and Science are often (and deliberately) confused by hardcore idealists.

    I know far more about sciences (Physics, chemistry, geology, mechanics, etc) and history than most people, but yet I am still Conservative. Why? Because I am a realist and think for myself.

    On many University Campuses, both thinking for oneself and being a realist appear to be verboten, and that is one reason why many campuses can be akin to living in the Soviet Union, where failing to toe the party line can leave one open to discrimination, harassment and even violence.

    • Steeloak

      Having the internet takes away the ignorance excuse. Anyone can learn anything about any subject with a Google ( or Bing, or any internet search engine) search that takes less than 30 seconds to perform. To be ignorant means you deliberately choose not to see the information that is available to you. But hey, I understand them – life is short and they’ve got American Idol to binge watch. “TOW the line” indeed! This took me 10 seconds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toe_the_line

      • Daniel Greenfield

        I gave him the links. Still impermeable because he’s “smarter” so he must be right.

      • UCSPanther

        An old term from racing, but often used to refer to the enforcement of conformity, especially in personal views and beliefs. Completely incompatible with the concept of independent thought.

        Towing refers to pulling something, generally in terms of breakdown and repairs.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      It’s Marxism lite, except devoid of any intellectual foundation and possessed of a deep emotional conviction of its own intellectual superiority.

  • cacslewisfan

    That exchange is hilarious! I knew a proud liberal Democrat who had car trouble all the time. “I knew it was going to give me trouble,” she said. “Why did you buy it?” I queried. “I felt sorry for it.”

    True story.

    • Berceuse

      People for the Ethical Treatment of Vehicles.

  • Berceuse

    Cut DGCJ some slack. He was distracted. Someone was trying to toe his car.

  • uptownsteve

    More bullcrap from FPM. 90% of reputable biologists state that there are no real differences between “races” of human beings outside of superficialities like skin color and hair texture. But CONSERVATIVES believe in a racial heirarchy and differences in intelligence levels and behavior. Don’t you?

    • Daniel Greenfield

      What does your comment have to do with anything?

      Take a deep breath and say to yourself, “It’s not all about race, it’s not all about race.”

      • Wolfthatknowsall

        And then he should click his heels together twice, and he will end up in Kansas …

        • Daniel Greenfield

          Maybe Berkeley.

      • UCSPanther

        This what Uptownsteve is:

        http://www.flamewarriorsguide.com/warriorshtm/ethnix.htm

        They may be “powerful” but they only have one attack: Playing the race card.

      • FlyingScottishTerrier

        The guy’s a liberal… to them it’s all about race. They are the true racist. They call conservatives racist as that is the Marxist method of debate. Accuse your opponent of that very position you hold to distract or deflect.

    • Berceuse

      The word “race” doesn’t appear in the article. Once again, no one is talking about race except you.

    • LibertarianToo

      Well we know that the Democrats who founded and belong to the KKK do. You can talk it over with them at your next anti-Israel demo.

    • UCSPanther

      That is worthy of a facepalm…

    • glpage

      Steve, do yo have reading comprehension issues? Where in the article is there any mention of race or ethnicity?

      Concerning your statement about racial hierarchy and intelligence levels, what does affirmative action really say? That certain ethnic groups don’t have the intelligence to compete on a level playing field so the government has to set quotas to help them out. That is how the left views those ethnic groups.

    • truebearing

      Maybe most blacks under perform in school and on IQ tests because they spend all of their mental energy on an obsession with race. Think of all the time and energy wasted on paranoia, hate, and envy by blacks like yourself. If you could direct that energy to something positive, you’d free yourself from the drain of a persecution complex.

    • Omar

      Conservatives don’t believe in racial hierarchy. You leftists believe in that. You ridicule any conservative who happens to be of a racial or ethnic minority as a “sell-out”. Who is the racist now? Fact-check.

    • A Z

      Wow, my family must not have gotten the memo.

      My cousin married an American Indian and I married a minority also.

      So I ask you “What racial hierarchy are you talking about?”.

    • Wolfthatknowsall

      Steve, I am a conservative and I DON’T … and never have … believed in a “racial hierarchy”. There is one specie of hominid on planet earth, and that is h0m0 sapiens sapiens. Underneath the skin we are one.

      The only people I’ve ever met who believed in a racial hierarchy were DEMs, socialists, and Marxists. For example, the head of the KKK in Elwood, Indiana (google it) down through the years has always been a Democrat.

      You speak of conservatives as if you know them. In the modern age, goiing all the way back to the era of the civil rights struggles and Martin Luther King, conservatives have supported equal rights, under the law. Democrats were dragged kicking and screaming to the table, when they saw a political advantage to it.

      Why is this so? Modern conservatives believe in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. The Left merely uses race as a club to beat people they don’t agree with. Much as do you …

    • MichaelZWilliamson

      Well, liberals seem to think that Asian is a “race” and a demographic, and that there’s no difference between Indians, Pakistanis, Japanese, Thais, Laos, Hmong and Koreans for accounting purposes.

  • tagalog

    I love the insistence that “tow the line” is correct. Go for it, dude! It’s a little like “I could care less.” I’m acquainted with people who defend that one, too.

  • cacslewisfan

    I remembered another funny Liberal Democrat story. I worked nights at a hospital after I graduated from nursing school. It was early one morning, and we were all at the Nursing Station charting and talking. The subject of organ donation came up. The floor I worked on was for people in various types of organ failure. In the course of our discussion, it came to light that most of the Liberal Democrats: nurses, techs, clerks would not donate organs when they died.

    Why?

    “I might need them. You don’t know what happens after you die.”

    We should be building more pyramids.

  • Steve Bryant

    DGCJ needs to be towed, (and toed, come to think of it)

  • Nogods

    “”How much do you know about the universe?

    1. The universe was created in what is commonly referred to as, what.

    2. In five words or less, describe how the sun works.

    3. How many days are in a light year.

    4. Einstein is most famous for this equation.

    5. If a one gram McDonald’s hamburger could be converted into pure energy, how much energy would it release.

    6. Almost everything we know about the universe come from studying what.

    7. If the earth were compressed into a sphere the size of a marble, what would happen to it.

    8. How old is the universe.

    9. How old is the earth.

    10. What one word best describes why the moon doesn’t crash into the earth.

    11. In no more the one sentence, state why Pluto is no longer considered a planet.

    12. The visible universe comprises about 5% of the total mass of the universe. In three words or less, describe what the visible universe is made of.

    13. In five words or less, describe what the remaining 95% of the universe is made of.

    14. If our sun collapsed into a black hole, what would happen to the earth’s orbit.

    15. Einsteins greatest discovery regarding light was what.

    16. What is one thing the Big Bang and black holes have in common.

    17. What does a solar system revolve around.

    18. What makes the building blocks of everything that exists.

    19. How large is a super massive black hole.

    20. What one word best describes the universe. “”

  • Peter Grenader

    If anyone wants to search this, and get the truth in this fallacy you will quickly see that Greenfield took data recently collected by Gallop and TIme Magazine polls and invented party affiliation as NONE was collected. Evicenced by the fact that no source is named, because none exists. Shameful BS.

    The truth being… two predominantly conservative evangelical states are trying to ban Cosmos form airing in their state. Missouri folks recently held a rally with signs saying the wanted to ‘Sucdee’ (sin… that means i intentionally used their misspelling) from the Union if it isnt.

    So to my conservative friends… have your fun, make your jokes and let the bigotry run rampant . We all know the truth however: Hillary Clinton is going to be our next president.

    • floyd

      Wishing for hillary, eh? After 8 years of obama? My old dad use to tell me “There’s no education from the second kick of a mule”. I guess in your case there’s just no education.