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	<title>Comments on: McCain on Waterboarding of 9/11 Planner: &#8220;Unconscionable&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: JackSpratt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JackSpratt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2014 01:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So we let a city get nuked, because it &#039;might&#039; be corrupted.  Not smart thinkiing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we let a city get nuked, because it &#8216;might&#8217; be corrupted.  Not smart thinkiing.</p>
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		<title>By: JackSpratt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JackSpratt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2014 01:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, but our Constitution only applies to U.S. citizens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but our Constitution only applies to U.S. citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: JackSpratt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JackSpratt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2014 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So we should get rid of punishment, because it could be used on us?  A government that would use torture on its citizens could care less if that torture was used on terrorists before.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we should get rid of punishment, because it could be used on us?  A government that would use torture on its citizens could care less if that torture was used on terrorists before.</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[waiting for mcclames thoughts when he&#039;s in the hospital and the doc&#039;s prescription is a sticker on his forehead stating, &quot;Do NOT Hydrate.&quot; 
THAT&#039;S some unconscionable torture currently performed at NHS in UK - if it works in average britain, it&#039;ll work in murica]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>waiting for mcclames thoughts when he&#8217;s in the hospital and the doc&#8217;s prescription is a sticker on his forehead stating, &#8220;Do NOT Hydrate.&#8221;<br />
THAT&#8217;S some unconscionable torture currently performed at NHS in UK &#8211; if it works in average britain, it&#8217;ll work in murica</p>
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		<title>By: tickletik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tickletik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2014 13:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have/had a system of checks and balances for a reason.  There is a reason for posse comitatus, there is a reason for the 5th amendment, there is a reason for the 8th amendment.


I am actually not opposed to torture on either legal or ethical grounds.  Our constitution only applies to ourselves, not to foreign nationals.  The geneva convention does not apply to non-uniformed combatants at all.   Ethically, I see no problem with torturing these monsters.


The problem is that on a Practical level, I know what will happen.  I know this will be abused, I know this will be used on Americans and definitely on those foreign nationals who this should never be used on.   I know that at the very least it is going to make us much colder and much more corrupt than we would be otherwise.


I don&#039;t agree with McCain on much, but on this, I believe he is 100% right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have/had a system of checks and balances for a reason.  There is a reason for posse comitatus, there is a reason for the 5th amendment, there is a reason for the 8th amendment.</p>
<p>I am actually not opposed to torture on either legal or ethical grounds.  Our constitution only applies to ourselves, not to foreign nationals.  The geneva convention does not apply to non-uniformed combatants at all.   Ethically, I see no problem with torturing these monsters.</p>
<p>The problem is that on a Practical level, I know what will happen.  I know this will be abused, I know this will be used on Americans and definitely on those foreign nationals who this should never be used on.   I know that at the very least it is going to make us much colder and much more corrupt than we would be otherwise.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with McCain on much, but on this, I believe he is 100% right.</p>
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		<title>By: nimbii</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 15:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lot of good it did McCain...  He can&#039;t even raise his arms above his shoulders as a result of the torture he bravely withstood in North Vietnam.  

We are childish and narcissistic to think wonderful us to be above torture.  Some say it does not work, but anyone in the behavioral sciences knows that when it comes to individual behavior, everyone is an individual.


Torture may not work on some, but it will work on others, particularly the highly imaginative.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of good it did McCain&#8230;  He can&#8217;t even raise his arms above his shoulders as a result of the torture he bravely withstood in North Vietnam.  </p>
<p>We are childish and narcissistic to think wonderful us to be above torture.  Some say it does not work, but anyone in the behavioral sciences knows that when it comes to individual behavior, everyone is an individual.</p>
<p>Torture may not work on some, but it will work on others, particularly the highly imaginative.</p>
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		<title>By: Von Stierlitz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Von Stierlitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 13:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Torture-shmorture. Just shoot the bastards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torture-shmorture. Just shoot the bastards.</p>
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		<title>By: Steeloak</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steeloak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 12:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I meant endured as in he went through the process of torture, not that he didn&#039;t break - he did, as did all the American captives in North Vietnamese hands.  They never stopped resisting however and were never broken in spirit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant endured as in he went through the process of torture, not that he didn&#8217;t break &#8211; he did, as did all the American captives in North Vietnamese hands.  They never stopped resisting however and were never broken in spirit.</p>
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		<title>By: edlancey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[edlancey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 12:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s another (good) question but the old liberal trope that &quot;they will make up any old rubbish&quot; is such a pathetic argument (up there with the Koch brothers, etc) that it is beyond disappointing, but not surprising, to see such a senior US politician repeat it - even if McCain is a certifiable moron.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s another (good) question but the old liberal trope that &#8220;they will make up any old rubbish&#8221; is such a pathetic argument (up there with the Koch brothers, etc) that it is beyond disappointing, but not surprising, to see such a senior US politician repeat it &#8211; even if McCain is a certifiable moron.</p>
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		<title>By: edlancey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[edlancey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 12:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did he ? I&#039;m sure he was singing like a canary before they had the chance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did he ? I&#8217;m sure he was singing like a canary before they had the chance.</p>
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		<title>By: tickletik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tickletik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s irrelevant if it works or not.  What&#039;s relevant is that it will be corrupted.  This is far too much power being given away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s irrelevant if it works or not.  What&#8217;s relevant is that it will be corrupted.  This is far too much power being given away.</p>
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		<title>By: tickletik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tickletik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And when they have the wrong man?  The program is in it&#039;s infancy right now, there are still some shreds of the constitution being respected, and there are many eyes still on the process because it is controversial.

What about when it&#039;s established and the momentum of precedent makes it not controversial, and the constitution is a little more frayed, and people care less.  How long do you think it&#039;s going to take for some corrupt official to use this power to intentionally torture an innocent man for some corrupt reason?

Do you realize how many sociopaths we currently have running around in government already?  Do you realize how much bribery, and business is being done?  How can you give these maniacs this much power without being terrified of the inevitable consequences?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And when they have the wrong man?  The program is in it&#8217;s infancy right now, there are still some shreds of the constitution being respected, and there are many eyes still on the process because it is controversial.</p>
<p>What about when it&#8217;s established and the momentum of precedent makes it not controversial, and the constitution is a little more frayed, and people care less.  How long do you think it&#8217;s going to take for some corrupt official to use this power to intentionally torture an innocent man for some corrupt reason?</p>
<p>Do you realize how many sociopaths we currently have running around in government already?  Do you realize how much bribery, and business is being done?  How can you give these maniacs this much power without being terrified of the inevitable consequences?</p>
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		<title>By: tickletik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tickletik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you really want government agents to exist who either can order a man to be tortured or have tortured a man?  Are you really sure you want that to be legal?

Today we use it against foreign terrorists.  And why not against domestic terrorists?  Then one day the definition of terrorist changes, or the burden of proof changes, or the wrong party gets into office, etc.

This idea is begging for trouble.  Like prohibition it sounds real good in principle, but in practice it is sheer destruction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you really want government agents to exist who either can order a man to be tortured or have tortured a man?  Are you really sure you want that to be legal?</p>
<p>Today we use it against foreign terrorists.  And why not against domestic terrorists?  Then one day the definition of terrorist changes, or the burden of proof changes, or the wrong party gets into office, etc.</p>
<p>This idea is begging for trouble.  Like prohibition it sounds real good in principle, but in practice it is sheer destruction.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellsworth Toohey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ellsworth Toohey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 07:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be subjected to water boarding is part of the special forces training. People survies to it. How many survived jihadist tortures ?
Anyway as long as the terrorist islamic &quot;feelings&quot; are not hurt, go ahead, waterboard them !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be subjected to water boarding is part of the special forces training. People survies to it. How many survived jihadist tortures ?<br />
Anyway as long as the terrorist islamic &#8220;feelings&#8221; are not hurt, go ahead, waterboard them !</p>
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		<title>By: Steeloak</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steeloak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 07:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Waterboarding is NOT torture.  John McCain, who endured actual torture,  should be ashamed of himself for conflating the two.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waterboarding is NOT torture.  John McCain, who endured actual torture,  should be ashamed of himself for conflating the two.</p>
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		<title>By: Jakareh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jakareh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 02:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John McCain asked for the job of running as the Republican candidate against Barack Obama. Then he refused to use &quot;Reverend&quot; Jeremiah &quot;God Damn America&quot; Wright and other issues that would have devastated Obama because the liberal media would have thought less of him. That&#039;s dereliction of duty and it&#039;s why I don&#039;t respect John McCain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John McCain asked for the job of running as the Republican candidate against Barack Obama. Then he refused to use &#8220;Reverend&#8221; Jeremiah &#8220;God Damn America&#8221; Wright and other issues that would have devastated Obama because the liberal media would have thought less of him. That&#8217;s dereliction of duty and it&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t respect John McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 02:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you ever seen what haji does to a American or an ally when they get ahold of them? There isn&#039;t enough left to put a jigsaw puzzle together, there is a reason that no pictures exist of Americans captured by muslims, it would insight the public to killem all and let allah sortem out.  Before you ask, yes I have seen it up close and personal, that is why to this day, I have a no prisoners policy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever seen what haji does to a American or an ally when they get ahold of them? There isn&#8217;t enough left to put a jigsaw puzzle together, there is a reason that no pictures exist of Americans captured by muslims, it would insight the public to killem all and let allah sortem out.  Before you ask, yes I have seen it up close and personal, that is why to this day, I have a no prisoners policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 02:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Torture does work, I have never seen or heard of a haji walking out of a session with a session with modern electricity in which he wasn&#039;t singing like a canary. Always remember, red is positive, black is negative and make sure his nuts are wet, works every time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torture does work, I have never seen or heard of a haji walking out of a session with a session with modern electricity in which he wasn&#8217;t singing like a canary. Always remember, red is positive, black is negative and make sure his nuts are wet, works every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Anukem Jihadi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anukem Jihadi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, yes but I wonder if waterboarding a 9 11 master mind upsets McCain as much as having to listen to reports of Free Syrian army atrocities against Christians. Probably not.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/02/gop-sen-apologizes-for-mccain-tantrum-at-syrian-christian-leader-meeting/

McCain is a weasel and a fraud.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes but I wonder if waterboarding a 9 11 master mind upsets McCain as much as having to listen to reports of Free Syrian army atrocities against Christians. Probably not.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/02/gop-sen-apologizes-for-mccain-tantrum-at-syrian-christian-leader-meeting/" rel="nofollow">http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/02/gop-sen-apologizes-for-mccain-tantrum-at-syrian-christian-leader-meeting/</a></p>
<p>McCain is a weasel and a fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 01:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unlawful combatants can be shot. No problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlawful combatants can be shot. No problem.</p>
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