Muslims Discovered Earth is Round, says Religion That Believes It’s Flat

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Turkey, these days better known as Erdoganistan, is all over this science thing.

First its thuggish Muslim dictator Erdogan claimed that Muslims discovered America. Now his Science Minister is claiming that Muslims discovered the earth is round.

Muslim scientists working around 1,200 years ago were the first to determine that the Earth is a sphere, Turkey’s science, industry and technology minister, becoming the latest Turkish official to inform the world about apparent scientific firsts on the part of Islamic world.

Speaking at a reception for business leader in the Central Anatolian province of Konya late Nov. 28, Minister Fikri Işık stressed the contributions of the Islamic world to science throughout history. “Some 700-800 years before Galileo, 71 Muslim scientists led by al-Khwarizmi convened by the order of the Caliph Al-Ma’mun and revealed that the Earth is a sphere,” he said. Işık added that a copy of the original document is currently in the Museum of Islamic Science and Technology in Istanbul.

Al-Khwarizmi was not a scientist, he was an astrologer who practiced astronomy. The Greeks and Indians had known that the earth was a sphere. Muslim “science” consisted of restating ideas from Greek and Indian scientists, who unlike them actually practiced science.

The Koran however claimed that the earth was flat like a carpet. Here are views from modern Muslim scientists on the subject.

The earth is flat. Whoever claims it is round is an atheist deserving of punishment.

That is a well-known religious edict, or fatwa, issued two years ago by Sheik Abdel-Aziz Ibn Baaz, the supreme religious authority of Saudi Arabia.

Also Baaz claimed that anyone who denied that the sun orbited the earth could be killed as an infidel.

In 1982 Ibn Baz published a book, “Treatise on the textual and rational proofs of the rotation of the sun and the motionlessness of the earth and the possibility of ascension to other planets”.

“I only deemed it lawful to kill whoever claims that the sun is static and refuses to repent of this after clarification. This is because denying the circulation of the sun constitutes a denial of Allah (Glorified be He), His Great Book, and His Honorable Messenger. It is well established in the Din (religion of Islam) by way of decisive evidence and Ijma` (consensus) of scholars that whoever denies Allah, His Messenger or His Book is a Kafir (disbeliever) and their blood and wealth become violable. It is the duty of the responsible authority to ask them to repent of this; either they repent or be executed. Thanks to Allah that this issue is not debatable among scholars.”

And if you still have any doubts, here is noted Iraqi astronomer researcher Fadhel Al-Sa’d to explain it to you.

Fadhel Al-Sa’d: The sun circles the Earth because it is smaller than the Earth, as is evident in Koranic verses.
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Have you ever seen how the sun moves? I have seen the sun moving. The sun makes one move every 24 hours.
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What I say is based on Koranic science. He bases his arguments on the kind of science that I reject categorically – the modern science that they teach in schools. This science is a heretic innovation that has no confirmation in the Koran. No verse in the Koran indicates that the Earth is round or that it rotates. Anything that has no indication in the Koran is false.

Not only did Muslims not discover that the earth is round, they remain the only religious group that still claims it’s flat.

Not counting liberals.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    “I only deemed it lawful to kill whoever claims that the sun is static and refuses to repent of this after clarification. This is because denying the circulation of the sun constitutes a denial of Allah (Glorified be He), His Great Book, and His Honorable Messenger. It is well established in the Din (religion of Islam) by way of decisive evidence and Ijma` (consensus) of scholars that whoever denies Allah, His Messenger or His Book is a Kafir (disbeliever) and their blood and wealth become violable. It is the duty of the responsible authority to ask them to repent of this; either they repent or be executed. Thanks to Allah that this issue is not debatable among scholars.”

    OK…just to be clear, we’re not looking for reasons to mock people because they’re alien and we prefer white skin or some BS like that or we’re afraid of weird clothes or BBQ camel. The issue is this:

    “…deemed it lawful to kill whoever claims…”

    So please don’t start any bogus Islam-o-phobia claims.

    Thanks very much for your cooperation!

    • Fed Up

      “bogus islam-o-phobia” is redundant.

      Anyone who cherishes western liberty, democracy and values would be a fool not to fear islam. Only the profoundly those profoundly ignorant of islam do not.

      Free men (and especially women) should fear islam as one who loves life fears the plague.

      • Softly Bob

        I’m Islamophobic and proud of it.
        It is no shame, it is a badge of honor.

        • MarilynA

          Me too.

  • http://ruleofreason.blogspot.com/ Edward Cline

    The old geezer has a definite Kantian problem. Kant, after all, said that what we experience or see is only part of the Phenomenal world, distorted by our senses, and isn’t the “real” thing. Fikri Işık’s mind seems imprisoned in the Noumenal realm, and so he needs glasses to see the other realm. No one really understands how the eyes work, he says, but he was able to get glasses, presumably from a prescribing oculist. Kant is the author of so much schizophrenia that’s rampant today, in Western politicians and in Muslims. And Islamic schizophrenia predates Kant (and his disciple in madness, Georg Hegel). Now, there’s a “first” Islam can claim! Can you imagine being stuck in the same room with that nutcase?

  • Tim N

    It’s turtles, all the way down.

    • MukeNecca

      It’s moslems all the way down.

      • cargosquid

        Muslim turtles?

  • Softly Bob

    Their lies just get bolder and bolder. What worries me is, will this round Earth that we live on have it’s orbit knocked slightly off balance because one and a half billion people in the World are walking around with two-feet long noses?

  • Biff Henderson

    Erdogan’s crowd makes the fatal mistake of favoring the glorification of Allah’s slaves accomplishments over the hokey writ of Allah. When myths collide, someone dies.

  • http://ruleofreason.blogspot.com/ Edward Cline

    Oh, and I forgot to mention, re the illustration above: Muslims invented dentistry.

    • MukeNecca

      …Muslims invented dentistry
      And wisdom teeth…

  • Bobbybestcat

    I shall start, whenever the occasion arises.

  • EaglesNest

    Sorry boys, but Isaiah figured it out at least 1,000 years before. Nice try.

    Isa 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

    • johninohio1

      Must it be pointed out that ‘circle’ doesn’t = ‘sphere’? He was probably referring to the 360 degree circle of the horizon. The heavens forming a curtain or tent would be consistent with this flat earth concept.

      “After the Greek philosophers Pythagoras, in the 6th century BC, and Parmenides, in the 5th, recognized that the Earth is spherical, the spherical view spread rapidly in the Greek world. Around 330 BC, Aristotle maintained on the basis of physical theory and observational evidence that the Earth was spherical.” wikipedia

  • CarnactheMagnificent

    One of my favorite grandpa stories was about his visit to the turkish space museum in the 1930′s, I remember him talking about video recorders and magnetic bobbleheads on all the wooden control consoles in the control room.

  • Douglas J. Bender

    It has pleased Allah, the Great and Merciful, to hide the truth from the Unbelievers — to them, he makes it appear as though the Earth orbits the Sun, and is round. The truth that this is not so he reveals to the Believers, the followers of Mohammed (blessed be his name). Allahu Akhbar!!

  • rodger the dodger

    There are Roman depictions of the earth being a sphere.

  • mobuyus

    I believe now that the koran was origionaly written in ancient Crayon.

  • Atikva

    And now an Egyptian military medical team has eradicated AIDS by serving it to the patients on kebab skewers (and while they were at it, they also found a cure for Hepatitis-B). According to Dr. Ibrahim Abdel Atti, Chief of the Medical Section of the Armed Forces, they have extracted the virus and broken it into amino acid so that instead of being a disease, it can nourish the patient.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1fdHT5PfcA

  • billparker2381

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152516338497849&set=a.434835177848.191552.629617848&type=1

    The Qur’an teaches that the world is flat. This doctrine is believed by a great many Islamic scholars even today. The Jewish/Christian Bible revealed that the earth is round in Isaiah 40:22 and via Job (26:7). Speaking of God in Isaiah 40:22, the Jewish/Christian Bible says; “It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in. Funny isn’t it, that the Bible said the earth was a “circle”, even when everyone believed the earth was flat”. Job 26:7 says, “He stretches out the north over empty space; He hangs the earth on nothing”.

    - In many places, the Qur’an alludes to the fact that the earth is flat and its mountains are like poles which create a balance so that the Earth does not tilt. See Qur’an, Suras 79:30 (And the Earth after that He(Allah) FLATTENED it.; and 18:47 (and you will see the earth a leveled plain).

    Qur’an Surah 79:30 says:
    Wa Al-Arda bada Zalika DaHaaHaa, which means:

    And the Earth after that He (Allah) FLATTENED it.

    With regards to Surah 79:30, ” Dahaahaa ” does NOT mean ” shape like an egg “. It is appalling that some dishonest Muslim apologists actually have the audacity to dishonestly cheat non-Arabic speakers to such an extent. So if concisely translated, Surah 79:30 should read as “And the Earth after that He (Allah) Spread out like a carpet and Flattened it.”

    The Arabic word for egg is ” Baidah ” and NOT ” Dahiyah ” . There is NO such Arabic word as ” Dahiyah “. ” “Dahaahaa ” actually means ” FLATTEN “. And the concise meaning of “Dahaahaa” is “Spread out like a carpet and Flattened”. This points to a clear scientific error in the Quran. The word “Dahiyah” is a word that comes from one of the NON-Arab tribes of North Africa. It is definitely NOT an Arabic word and NOT a word that comes from the Arabian Peninsula or Muhammad’s tribe.

  • cargosquid

    So… The Saudis will be issuing their death fatwa against Erdogan in 3….. 2….

  • cargosquid

    Too funny.

  • Hunbeyya

    Muslims invented everything, this is the reason why they are so backward.