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	<title>Comments on: NBC Olympics Coverage Calls USSR &#8220;One of Modern History&#8217;s Pivotal Experiments&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: The Mad Jewess</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Mad Jewess]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tell it to the Ukrainians.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell it to the Ukrainians.</p>
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		<title>By: The Mad Jewess</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Mad Jewess]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much as I hate to admit it, you are right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I hate to admit it, you are right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilya Novikov</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ilya Novikov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I must say that, being an outsider, I am not used to such bias outbursts, but as a Russian liberal who has studied history in college I can only align completely with NBC&#039;s eloquent portrayal: as John Reed and many others agree, the bolshevik revolution did shake the world and determin much of the XXth century history, for better or worse. That is a neutral fact of history and does not carry any judgement on the righteousness or worthiness of the Soviet Union. Now I am truly sorry for Mr Greenfield&#039;s grandparents, who suffered as countless others from totalitarian regimes, but I will venture to say that the Soviet experiment did bring more than death and tyranny, it also brought us to human space flight and other great strides in culture and science, it lifted up an illiterate society from misery to become one of the most developed societies of the world in merely a couple of generations. The fact that the downfall of the USSR brought with it unthinkable human suffering for millions of people, precipitated by the arbitrary take over and euthanasia of the promises of the Gorbatchev era, tells us unequivocally that something was lost 23 years ago. That does not absolve soviet totalitarianism from its abhoring abuses and crimes against humanity, but no impartial observer could dismiss the fact that this experiment had its contributions for the overall experiment of humanity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say that, being an outsider, I am not used to such bias outbursts, but as a Russian liberal who has studied history in college I can only align completely with NBC&#8217;s eloquent portrayal: as John Reed and many others agree, the bolshevik revolution did shake the world and determin much of the XXth century history, for better or worse. That is a neutral fact of history and does not carry any judgement on the righteousness or worthiness of the Soviet Union. Now I am truly sorry for Mr Greenfield&#8217;s grandparents, who suffered as countless others from totalitarian regimes, but I will venture to say that the Soviet experiment did bring more than death and tyranny, it also brought us to human space flight and other great strides in culture and science, it lifted up an illiterate society from misery to become one of the most developed societies of the world in merely a couple of generations. The fact that the downfall of the USSR brought with it unthinkable human suffering for millions of people, precipitated by the arbitrary take over and euthanasia of the promises of the Gorbatchev era, tells us unequivocally that something was lost 23 years ago. That does not absolve soviet totalitarianism from its abhoring abuses and crimes against humanity, but no impartial observer could dismiss the fact that this experiment had its contributions for the overall experiment of humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: wileyvet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wileyvet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have come to accept that Naziism is the personification of evil in the 20th century, yet I would reason that most on the Democrat left haven&#039;t a clue about the true nature of the Lenin/Stalin Soviet &quot;experiment&quot;. Truly monsterous. There was probably not a single person in the USSR and satellites that did not have a family member, persecuted, enslaved or outright shot. Millions simply disappeared. Whenever I read about the poor Hollywood commies who were blacklisted in the 40&#039;s and 50&#039;s I cannot feel one bit sorry for them. They were willing accomplices in the subversion of American culture and political ideals and were actively working to bring to America what Stalin was imposing on Russia. Those American ( and I use the term loosely ) commie stooges only lost their jobs. Not their lives. But of course this has been re-written by Leftists in the finest Orwellian manner. Those that provide cover are either; ignorant, blind, willfully ignorant, or completely disingenuous. Those that do know the truth and still adhere to the communist line are those that would be willing to subject their fellow citizens to a horrendous brutality and a soul crushing slavery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have come to accept that Naziism is the personification of evil in the 20th century, yet I would reason that most on the Democrat left haven&#8217;t a clue about the true nature of the Lenin/Stalin Soviet &#8220;experiment&#8221;. Truly monsterous. There was probably not a single person in the USSR and satellites that did not have a family member, persecuted, enslaved or outright shot. Millions simply disappeared. Whenever I read about the poor Hollywood commies who were blacklisted in the 40&#8242;s and 50&#8242;s I cannot feel one bit sorry for them. They were willing accomplices in the subversion of American culture and political ideals and were actively working to bring to America what Stalin was imposing on Russia. Those American ( and I use the term loosely ) commie stooges only lost their jobs. Not their lives. But of course this has been re-written by Leftists in the finest Orwellian manner. Those that provide cover are either; ignorant, blind, willfully ignorant, or completely disingenuous. Those that do know the truth and still adhere to the communist line are those that would be willing to subject their fellow citizens to a horrendous brutality and a soul crushing slavery.</p>
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		<title>By: logdon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[logdon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PPS

Two books which as a young man, affected me deeply and opened my eyes were Alexander Solzhenitzyn&#039;s,  One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich and Tales from the Don by Mikhail Aleksandrovich Sholokho. 

Both deal in separate ways with the ravages of communism.

The former is pretty well known, the latter, not so much but equally valid in it&#039;s depiction of kulak and cossack displacement  and slaughter during the era of the Red Wedge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PPS</p>
<p>Two books which as a young man, affected me deeply and opened my eyes were Alexander Solzhenitzyn&#8217;s,  One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich and Tales from the Don by Mikhail Aleksandrovich Sholokho. </p>
<p>Both deal in separate ways with the ravages of communism.</p>
<p>The former is pretty well known, the latter, not so much but equally valid in it&#8217;s depiction of kulak and cossack displacement  and slaughter during the era of the Red Wedge.</p>
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		<title>By: logdon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[logdon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because they won the Great Patriotic War. To the victor the spoils. And that includes the legacy.

PS: That universal rule applies to all, but inexplicably for some obscure  reason, not Israel and its fairly and squarely recaptured 1967 territories.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because they won the Great Patriotic War. To the victor the spoils. And that includes the legacy.</p>
<p>PS: That universal rule applies to all, but inexplicably for some obscure  reason, not Israel and its fairly and squarely recaptured 1967 territories.</p>
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		<title>By: A Z</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you subtract the oil industry, the Russian economy did not grow last year.  It has been slowing down for several years.

So when Russia starts tail spinning, don&#039;t say you were not warned.

A Triumph for Putin, if Not for the Rest of a Sagging Russia
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/07/world/europe/russias-economic-malaise-casts-specter-over-games.html?_r=0

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/gdp-growth

Moscow casts doubt over Russia&#039;s economic outlook
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/529ff130-8a81-11e3-9c29-00144feab7de,Authorised=false.html?_i_location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2F529ff130-8a81-11e3-9c29-00144feab7de.html%3Fsiteedition%3Dintl&amp;siteedition=intl&amp;_i_referer=]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you subtract the oil industry, the Russian economy did not grow last year.  It has been slowing down for several years.</p>
<p>So when Russia starts tail spinning, don&#8217;t say you were not warned.</p>
<p>A Triumph for Putin, if Not for the Rest of a Sagging Russia<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/07/world/europe/russias-economic-malaise-casts-specter-over-games.html?_r=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/07/world/europe/russias-economic-malaise-casts-specter-over-games.html?_r=0</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/gdp-growth" rel="nofollow">http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/gdp-growth</a></p>
<p>Moscow casts doubt over Russia&#8217;s economic outlook<br />
<a href="http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/529ff130-8a81-11e3-9c29-00144feab7de,Authorised=false.html?_i_location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2F529ff130-8a81-11e3-9c29-00144feab7de.html%3Fsiteedition%3Dintl&#038;siteedition=intl&#038;_i_referer=" rel="nofollow">http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/529ff130-8a81-11e3-9c29-00144feab7de,Authorised=false.html?_i_location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2F529ff130-8a81-11e3-9c29-00144feab7de.html%3Fsiteedition%3Dintl&#038;siteedition=intl&#038;_i_referer=</a></p>
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		<title>By: Johny Silverstone</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johny Silverstone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 11:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[americans are just jealous that russian economy doing great. While in USA its high unemployment and everything falling apart.Debt will never be paid. USA is USSA now, police state and with  biggest penitentiary complex in the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>americans are just jealous that russian economy doing great. While in USA its high unemployment and everything falling apart.Debt will never be paid. USA is USSA now, police state and with  biggest penitentiary complex in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: A Z</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Russian famine of 1921

&quot; The famine was the justification offered for the Bolsheviks&#039; 1922 confiscation of Russian Orthodox Church property in Russia.&quot;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Povolzhye_famine

&quot;Never let a good crisis got to waste.&quot; - Rahm &quot;Dead Fish&quot; Emanuel

&quot;Throughout 1922 and 1923, as famine was still widespread and the ARA was still providing relief supplies, grain was EXPORTED by the Soviet government to raise funds for the revival of industry ...

 The American Relief Administration (ARA), which HERBERT HOOVER had formed to help the starvation of World War I, had offered assistance to Lenin in 1919, on condition that they have full say over the Russian railway network and hand out food impartially to all. Lenin refused this as interference in Russian internal affairs.&quot;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Povolzhye_famine

I though Herbert Hoover was a mean nasty Republican?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russian famine of 1921</p>
<p>&#8221; The famine was the justification offered for the Bolsheviks&#8217; 1922 confiscation of Russian Orthodox Church property in Russia.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Povolzhye_famine" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Povolzhye_famine</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Never let a good crisis got to waste.&#8221; &#8211; Rahm &#8220;Dead Fish&#8221; Emanuel</p>
<p>&#8220;Throughout 1922 and 1923, as famine was still widespread and the ARA was still providing relief supplies, grain was EXPORTED by the Soviet government to raise funds for the revival of industry &#8230;</p>
<p> The American Relief Administration (ARA), which HERBERT HOOVER had formed to help the starvation of World War I, had offered assistance to Lenin in 1919, on condition that they have full say over the Russian railway network and hand out food impartially to all. Lenin refused this as interference in Russian internal affairs.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Povolzhye_famine" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Povolzhye_famine</a></p>
<p>I though Herbert Hoover was a mean nasty Republican?</p>
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		<title>By: A Z</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To the southeast of Moscow there was a region or an oblast that rose up against the communist in the 1920s.

The commissar were requisitioning more grain form the region than they could export and still feed themselves.  The peasants did the math figured that out and protested to no avail. So they  revolted. It took more than a few months for the soviets to pacify the region. That is kill the peasants.   They were led by a soldier and there is a wiki entry.  I know I copied the entry, but I&#039;ll try to find the wiki entry again.

This region was not in the Ukraine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the southeast of Moscow there was a region or an oblast that rose up against the communist in the 1920s.</p>
<p>The commissar were requisitioning more grain form the region than they could export and still feed themselves.  The peasants did the math figured that out and protested to no avail. So they  revolted. It took more than a few months for the soviets to pacify the region. That is kill the peasants.   They were led by a soldier and there is a wiki entry.  I know I copied the entry, but I&#8217;ll try to find the wiki entry again.</p>
<p>This region was not in the Ukraine.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Greenfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 02:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are Germans who would like that, but it&#039;s socially unacceptable. Unfortunately celebrating the USSR remains socially acceptable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are Germans who would like that, but it&#8217;s socially unacceptable. Unfortunately celebrating the USSR remains socially acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: Smoking Hamster</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smoking Hamster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 01:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would be fine with calling it an experiment as long as leftists admitted that it totally failed and that it was doomed to degenerate into tyranny as soon as Lenin began his purges. Look up &quot;The Red Terror&quot; for more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be fine with calling it an experiment as long as leftists admitted that it totally failed and that it was doomed to degenerate into tyranny as soon as Lenin began his purges. Look up &#8220;The Red Terror&#8221; for more.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason P</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 01:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wife &amp; I were discussing the coverage. Obviously the communist period was part of Russia&#039;s history. But how? If German had a &quot;historical retrospective&quot; would we expect a German ballet about its history to have hanging swastikas and parading V-2 rockets? And would we expect an American narrator to mumble some bland &quot;turning point of history&quot; remark? 


If anything, a remembrance should be a solemn moment of silence for that 150 million killed by Communism and billion more enslaved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wife &amp; I were discussing the coverage. Obviously the communist period was part of Russia&#8217;s history. But how? If German had a &#8220;historical retrospective&#8221; would we expect a German ballet about its history to have hanging swastikas and parading V-2 rockets? And would we expect an American narrator to mumble some bland &#8220;turning point of history&#8221; remark? </p>
<p>If anything, a remembrance should be a solemn moment of silence for that 150 million killed by Communism and billion more enslaved.</p>
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