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		<title>By: Drewbueno</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is immigration an economic issue? Of course. And this paper on the results of mass immigration in the 2000s explains everything you need to know about the results on our wages, unemployment, and labor force participation rates in a few helpful charts: https://cis.org/immigrant-gains-native-losses-in-the-job-market-2000-to-2013]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is immigration an economic issue? Of course. And this paper on the results of mass immigration in the 2000s explains everything you need to know about the results on our wages, unemployment, and labor force participation rates in a few helpful charts: <a href="https://cis.org/immigrant-gains-native-losses-in-the-job-market-2000-to-2013" rel="nofollow">https://cis.org/immigrant-gains-native-losses-in-the-job-market-2000-to-2013</a></p>
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		<title>By: corvinus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[corvinus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2014 16:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just because tea partiers are against abortion and gay marriage doesn&#039;t mean that they&#039;re &quot;focusing&quot; on them. Rather, the newsmedia jumps all over anybody who criticizes abortion and gay marriage, or makes off-color remarks about women. I agree that Akin and Mourdock were id!ots but refusing to attack abortion and gay marriage is quite frankly wussing out and handing those issues over to the left uncontested.

And I&#039;m not convinced that Romney would have been any better than 0bama. He did invent 0bamacare, after all, and I&#039;m sure he would have tried to &quot;fix&quot; it rather than repeal it entirely. Not to mention push through amnesty for illegal aliens and get us into another Mideast war like Bush. After all, Republican presidents are pretty good at governing as a centrist. Bush was pro-war and pro-amnesty. Having an Establishment Republican president like Romney, McCain, or anybody named &quot;Bush&quot; doesn&#039;t help matters at all, and arguably in some ways makes things worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because tea partiers are against abortion and gay marriage doesn&#8217;t mean that they&#8217;re &#8220;focusing&#8221; on them. Rather, the newsmedia jumps all over anybody who criticizes abortion and gay marriage, or makes off-color remarks about women. I agree that Akin and Mourdock were id!ots but refusing to attack abortion and gay marriage is quite frankly wussing out and handing those issues over to the left uncontested.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m not convinced that Romney would have been any better than 0bama. He did invent 0bamacare, after all, and I&#8217;m sure he would have tried to &#8220;fix&#8221; it rather than repeal it entirely. Not to mention push through amnesty for illegal aliens and get us into another Mideast war like Bush. After all, Republican presidents are pretty good at governing as a centrist. Bush was pro-war and pro-amnesty. Having an Establishment Republican president like Romney, McCain, or anybody named &#8220;Bush&#8221; doesn&#8217;t help matters at all, and arguably in some ways makes things worse.</p>
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		<title>By: laura r</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[laura r]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2014 04:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[they are similar to the gypies, steal, lie, are aggressive. the nice mexicans have a hard time there, regardless which class they are from. so many victims in mexico.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they are similar to the gypies, steal, lie, are aggressive. the nice mexicans have a hard time there, regardless which class they are from. so many victims in mexico.</p>
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		<title>By: Lobsterhead</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lobsterhead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 23:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As long as Republicans and Tea Party members focus on abortion, gay marriage, and religion, they will lose. Stay focused on the constitution and economics. If tea party candidates continue to hire crappy advisers and campaign organizers, they will continue to have intelligent people who are unable to speak properly and make themselves appear to be idiots.  Some examples are I&#039;m not a witch and God won&#039;t allow a raped woman to get pregnant.
The tea party idiots actually allowed Obama to win a second term because they wouldn&#039;t vote for Mitt Romney.  Thank God they weren&#039;t around when Carter ran for a second term.  I definitely don&#039;t want that Milk Toast Santorum  as President.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as Republicans and Tea Party members focus on abortion, gay marriage, and religion, they will lose. Stay focused on the constitution and economics. If tea party candidates continue to hire crappy advisers and campaign organizers, they will continue to have intelligent people who are unable to speak properly and make themselves appear to be idiots.  Some examples are I&#8217;m not a witch and God won&#8217;t allow a raped woman to get pregnant.<br />
The tea party idiots actually allowed Obama to win a second term because they wouldn&#8217;t vote for Mitt Romney.  Thank God they weren&#8217;t around when Carter ran for a second term.  I definitely don&#8217;t want that Milk Toast Santorum  as President.</p>
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		<title>By: truebearing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[truebearing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 22:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great quote. I will be reminded of it in future debates with the fools who think morality can be surgically removed from governance, or who more foolishly think they could endure the consequences.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great quote. I will be reminded of it in future debates with the fools who think morality can be surgically removed from governance, or who more foolishly think they could endure the consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: truebearing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[truebearing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 22:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One reason many of these so-called libertarians are buying into these false arguments that morality must somehow be kept out of politics, except for their version of morality, of course, is that many of them are young and were on the Left before they became disillusioned and careened wildly to the far Right. These are natural born ideologues, searching desperately for a magic, one-size-fits-all ideological solution to all problems, but especially their own. They want pot legalized, as well as any of their other vices, and since they were raised in a moral vacuum, they are looking for ideological amnesty for their favorite vice. Like all narcissists, they want what they want when they want it, and they don&#039;t want any moral or legal culpability. In other words, they want freedom without goodness. An impossibility. 


What these people think is Libertarianism is really Libertinism, but they don&#039;t know the difference, or don&#039;t care.


The Gramscian template for revolution in America was singularly focused on discrediting and supplanting Christianity, and in particular, Christian morality. Obama and his predescessors on the Left have been at this process for years, yet somehow the warnings of this truth fell on deaf ears. Now we have libertarians echoing the same seditious arguments of the Left, effectively flanking conservatives from the right. This insidious and foolish thinking on the part of these poorly educated, pseudo- libertarians, especially the naive young ones, has the potential to prevent unity on the Right, guaranteeing the Left its power monopoly. Needless to say, the Left has had its minions working overtime to salt these falsehoods among the gullible Paul supporters, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One reason many of these so-called libertarians are buying into these false arguments that morality must somehow be kept out of politics, except for their version of morality, of course, is that many of them are young and were on the Left before they became disillusioned and careened wildly to the far Right. These are natural born ideologues, searching desperately for a magic, one-size-fits-all ideological solution to all problems, but especially their own. They want pot legalized, as well as any of their other vices, and since they were raised in a moral vacuum, they are looking for ideological amnesty for their favorite vice. Like all narcissists, they want what they want when they want it, and they don&#8217;t want any moral or legal culpability. In other words, they want freedom without goodness. An impossibility. </p>
<p>What these people think is Libertarianism is really Libertinism, but they don&#8217;t know the difference, or don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>The Gramscian template for revolution in America was singularly focused on discrediting and supplanting Christianity, and in particular, Christian morality. Obama and his predescessors on the Left have been at this process for years, yet somehow the warnings of this truth fell on deaf ears. Now we have libertarians echoing the same seditious arguments of the Left, effectively flanking conservatives from the right. This insidious and foolish thinking on the part of these poorly educated, pseudo- libertarians, especially the naive young ones, has the potential to prevent unity on the Right, guaranteeing the Left its power monopoly. Needless to say, the Left has had its minions working overtime to salt these falsehoods among the gullible Paul supporters, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: NAHALKIDES</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NAHALKIDES]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 18:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Libertarians who refuse to accept the fact that open borders are 
incompatible with small government are committing suicide and asking 
everyone else to join them for the ride.&quot;

Exactly so, and it needs to be said.  I&#039;m glad I&#039;m not the only one trying to pound some sense into the heads of Libertarians.  Thanks, Daniel!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Libertarians who refuse to accept the fact that open borders are<br />
incompatible with small government are committing suicide and asking<br />
everyone else to join them for the ride.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly so, and it needs to be said.  I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m not the only one trying to pound some sense into the heads of Libertarians.  Thanks, Daniel!</p>
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		<title>By: NAHALKIDES</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NAHALKIDES]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 18:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The sad answer to your question is that too many pundits are of the Establishment (or Libertarian, like Tanner) variety, even at NRO, which should be a bastion of Conservative thought but isn&#039;t any more]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad answer to your question is that too many pundits are of the Establishment (or Libertarian, like Tanner) variety, even at NRO, which should be a bastion of Conservative thought but isn&#8217;t any more</p>
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		<title>By: Jason P</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 16:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quite interesting. They&#039;re social conservative in their native lands but become more socially liberal here. 


Bottom line is that they support the Democratic Party and it&#039;s continued journey down the road to serfdom--a concern that both conservatives and libertarians should share.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite interesting. They&#8217;re social conservative in their native lands but become more socially liberal here. </p>
<p>Bottom line is that they support the Democratic Party and it&#8217;s continued journey down the road to serfdom&#8211;a concern that both conservatives and libertarians should share.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Greenfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s more important to look at Latino polling in the US, particularly 2nd generation, and they&#039;re not all that pro-abortion and have a high rate of out of wedlock births.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/11/latinos-endorse-legal-abortion/

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/360990/latest-statistics-out-wedlock-births-roger-clegg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s more important to look at Latino polling in the US, particularly 2nd generation, and they&#8217;re not all that pro-abortion and have a high rate of out of wedlock births.</p>
<p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/11/latinos-endorse-legal-abortion/" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/11/latinos-endorse-legal-abortion/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/360990/latest-statistics-out-wedlock-births-roger-clegg" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/360990/latest-statistics-out-wedlock-births-roger-clegg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Greenfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 15:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They&#039;re living in an ideological reality in which things work because they&#039;re right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re living in an ideological reality in which things work because they&#8217;re right.</p>
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		<title>By: SFTOBEY</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SFTOBEY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 15:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent reply! Couldn&#039;t have said it better myself.  Our Founding Fathers did not give us a &quot;democracy&quot; (because they well understood the dangers inherent with a &quot;democracy&quot;); they gave us a Constitutional Republic.

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people”. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

- John Adams]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent reply! Couldn&#8217;t have said it better myself.  Our Founding Fathers did not give us a &#8220;democracy&#8221; (because they well understood the dangers inherent with a &#8220;democracy&#8221;); they gave us a Constitutional Republic.</p>
<p>“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people”. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”</p>
<p>- John Adams</p>
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		<title>By: SFTOBEY</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SFTOBEY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 14:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Send your opinion to Michael Tanner at the National Review.  He&#039;s the one parroting the GOP establishment about the Tea Party.  Daniel Greenfield is just bringing that fact to light in this article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Send your opinion to Michael Tanner at the National Review.  He&#8217;s the one parroting the GOP establishment about the Tea Party.  Daniel Greenfield is just bringing that fact to light in this article.</p>
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		<title>By: SFTOBEY</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SFTOBEY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 14:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Probably not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably not.</p>
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		<title>By: SFTOBEY</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SFTOBEY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 14:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Libertarians who refuse to accept the fact that open borders are incompatible with small government are committing suicide and asking everyone else to join them for the ride.&quot;



Absolutely. This is an excellent article. If so-called &quot;libertarians&quot; cannot see the damage that the dissing of morality has done to this country over the last 50 years, then they are living  in an &quot;alternate&quot; reality that bears no resemblance to true reality.  (Personally, I believe that this country has gone too far down the wrong road to be able to come back with elections. But we can always try.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Libertarians who refuse to accept the fact that open borders are incompatible with small government are committing suicide and asking everyone else to join them for the ride.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely. This is an excellent article. If so-called &#8220;libertarians&#8221; cannot see the damage that the dissing of morality has done to this country over the last 50 years, then they are living  in an &#8220;alternate&#8221; reality that bears no resemblance to true reality.  (Personally, I believe that this country has gone too far down the wrong road to be able to come back with elections. But we can always try.)</p>
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		<title>By: malikknows</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[malikknows]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 12:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Key is we&#039;ve abandoned the methods we traditionally used to assimilate immigrants.  In fact, among cultural elites assimilation is a bad, coercive policy.  They prefer a &quot;salad bowl&quot; vice the traditional &quot;melting pot.&quot; &quot;E Pluribus Unum&quot; has been abandoned in favor of &quot;diversity.&quot;  There is simply no reason for recent immigrants to assimilate into the broader culture and become Americans as past generations have done.  A splintered media makes it easy for people, esp. Hispanics, to maintain their cultural affinity to the country of origin.  Because we no longer attempt to assimilate immigrants, I oppose amnesty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Key is we&#8217;ve abandoned the methods we traditionally used to assimilate immigrants.  In fact, among cultural elites assimilation is a bad, coercive policy.  They prefer a &#8220;salad bowl&#8221; vice the traditional &#8220;melting pot.&#8221; &#8220;E Pluribus Unum&#8221; has been abandoned in favor of &#8220;diversity.&#8221;  There is simply no reason for recent immigrants to assimilate into the broader culture and become Americans as past generations have done.  A splintered media makes it easy for people, esp. Hispanics, to maintain their cultural affinity to the country of origin.  Because we no longer attempt to assimilate immigrants, I oppose amnesty.</p>
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		<title>By: Naresh Krishnamoorti</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Naresh Krishnamoorti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 07:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brilliantly stated. 

Why can’t libertarians understand what everyone else
understands?  What the Founders understood, what Tocqueville understood, what conservatives understand, and what the Cultural Marxists understood better than anyone else:  that libertarianism regarding moral issues is the direct cause of socialist tyranny.

The Cultural Marxists(http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/02/cultural_marxism.html)
developed a strategy to promote worldwide communism, not by violent revolution or class warfare, but by attacking Christian values, marriage, family, the Church, the culture, and all traditional social structures.  They understood that these values and these organizations protect the individual against dependency upon the State, and provide buffers that make it more difficult for the State to reach the individual directly.

The reason why Americans have consistently voted for bigger
government since the 1960’s is because since the 1960’s, traditional values and traditional organizations have been under attack.

The overwhelming majority of single women vote for bigger
government.  A significant majority of married women vote for limited government.  If a person really wants limited government, he will do whatever in his power to promote a culture in
which there are fewer single women and more married women.  He would also promote a culture in which women are encouraged to have many children, which is the only way to prevent the need to import cheap labor from the third-world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliantly stated. </p>
<p>Why can’t libertarians understand what everyone else<br />
understands?  What the Founders understood, what Tocqueville understood, what conservatives understand, and what the Cultural Marxists understood better than anyone else:  that libertarianism regarding moral issues is the direct cause of socialist tyranny.</p>
<p>The Cultural Marxists(<a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/02/cultural_marxism.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/02/cultural_marxism.html</a>)<br />
developed a strategy to promote worldwide communism, not by violent revolution or class warfare, but by attacking Christian values, marriage, family, the Church, the culture, and all traditional social structures.  They understood that these values and these organizations protect the individual against dependency upon the State, and provide buffers that make it more difficult for the State to reach the individual directly.</p>
<p>The reason why Americans have consistently voted for bigger<br />
government since the 1960’s is because since the 1960’s, traditional values and traditional organizations have been under attack.</p>
<p>The overwhelming majority of single women vote for bigger<br />
government.  A significant majority of married women vote for limited government.  If a person really wants limited government, he will do whatever in his power to promote a culture in<br />
which there are fewer single women and more married women.  He would also promote a culture in which women are encouraged to have many children, which is the only way to prevent the need to import cheap labor from the third-world.</p>
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		<title>By: truebearing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[truebearing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 06:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can see why you&#039;ve remained unknown.


If you knew anything about the origins of this nation, you would know that this country wasn&#039;t primarily the result of people seeking political freedom, but instead, religious freedom, and the people seeking the freedoms protected by our 1st amendment were overwhelmingly Christians. The influence of Judeo/Christian values is ubiquitous throughout our early history, including our Declaration of Independence and Constitution. Even the concept of a Democratic Republic is a MORAL concept, not an economic one.


This nation wasn&#039;t founded by people who had a political theory that was also an economic theory. Christianity, democracy, and capitalism combined to give Americans an economy of opportunity, a political system that protected freedom, and a moral code that kept people basically honest and loyal to the guiding moral principles that were the foundation of free trade and representative government. Without morality, this nation wouldn&#039;t have lasted five years.


Modern day libertarians are some of the least perceptive or logical people I have encountered on the subject of morality in politics. They yammer incessantly about freedom or liberty, as if merely repeating the words is sufficient. They have no real idea as to how freedom is attained or preserved, confusing the issue as one of economic theory. Marx had economic theories that were supposed to usher in utopia, too. He just didn&#039;t understand human nature, and neither do libertarian utopianists. 


Controlling conflict requires laws and police. The more people are &quot;free&quot; to indulge in destructive behaviors that derange their minds, the more police necessary to control them. The &quot;free-to-do-as-one-wilt&quot; (remarkably close to the satanic commandment) prescription for liberty leads rather quickly to a police state. I will cite the celebration of enlightenment by drugs in the 60&#039;s, and the subsequent downward spiral of this nation as exhibit A. We are far less free now than in the period preceding the rejection of morals that began in the 60&#039;s. It didn&#039;t take very long either.


The more freedom you want as a group, the more moral self-restraint required from each individual in the group. The more freedom you want as an individual, the higher degree of moral rectitude necessary in those who are around you. Your freedom is directly contingent on the decency and moral uprightness of your fellow citizens. As a population abandons personal moral restraint, the need for external morality, ie laws and police, increase. Immorality is a prescription for statism.


Libertarianism is untenable as a governing ideology. It can only work as an influence on conservatism. 


Conservatism doesn&#039;t exist without a moral component, but neither does libertarianism, or any other political belief. They all have their own morality, or anti-morality. 


Conservatism is less an ideology than a belief in fundamental principles that sustain human dignity, freedom, and life, and those principles are inseparable from morality and virtue.


Morality is the human survival code. It isn&#039;t a punishment. It is a gift. If you would delve deeper into the consequences of ideas and ideologies, you would understand conservatism much better, and conversely, the failings of modern Libertarianism, Marxism, etc. If you don&#039;t understand the importance of morality in politics, you don&#039;t really understand politics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see why you&#8217;ve remained unknown.</p>
<p>If you knew anything about the origins of this nation, you would know that this country wasn&#8217;t primarily the result of people seeking political freedom, but instead, religious freedom, and the people seeking the freedoms protected by our 1st amendment were overwhelmingly Christians. The influence of Judeo/Christian values is ubiquitous throughout our early history, including our Declaration of Independence and Constitution. Even the concept of a Democratic Republic is a MORAL concept, not an economic one.</p>
<p>This nation wasn&#8217;t founded by people who had a political theory that was also an economic theory. Christianity, democracy, and capitalism combined to give Americans an economy of opportunity, a political system that protected freedom, and a moral code that kept people basically honest and loyal to the guiding moral principles that were the foundation of free trade and representative government. Without morality, this nation wouldn&#8217;t have lasted five years.</p>
<p>Modern day libertarians are some of the least perceptive or logical people I have encountered on the subject of morality in politics. They yammer incessantly about freedom or liberty, as if merely repeating the words is sufficient. They have no real idea as to how freedom is attained or preserved, confusing the issue as one of economic theory. Marx had economic theories that were supposed to usher in utopia, too. He just didn&#8217;t understand human nature, and neither do libertarian utopianists. </p>
<p>Controlling conflict requires laws and police. The more people are &#8220;free&#8221; to indulge in destructive behaviors that derange their minds, the more police necessary to control them. The &#8220;free-to-do-as-one-wilt&#8221; (remarkably close to the satanic commandment) prescription for liberty leads rather quickly to a police state. I will cite the celebration of enlightenment by drugs in the 60&#8242;s, and the subsequent downward spiral of this nation as exhibit A. We are far less free now than in the period preceding the rejection of morals that began in the 60&#8242;s. It didn&#8217;t take very long either.</p>
<p>The more freedom you want as a group, the more moral self-restraint required from each individual in the group. The more freedom you want as an individual, the higher degree of moral rectitude necessary in those who are around you. Your freedom is directly contingent on the decency and moral uprightness of your fellow citizens. As a population abandons personal moral restraint, the need for external morality, ie laws and police, increase. Immorality is a prescription for statism.</p>
<p>Libertarianism is untenable as a governing ideology. It can only work as an influence on conservatism. </p>
<p>Conservatism doesn&#8217;t exist without a moral component, but neither does libertarianism, or any other political belief. They all have their own morality, or anti-morality. </p>
<p>Conservatism is less an ideology than a belief in fundamental principles that sustain human dignity, freedom, and life, and those principles are inseparable from morality and virtue.</p>
<p>Morality is the human survival code. It isn&#8217;t a punishment. It is a gift. If you would delve deeper into the consequences of ideas and ideologies, you would understand conservatism much better, and conversely, the failings of modern Libertarianism, Marxism, etc. If you don&#8217;t understand the importance of morality in politics, you don&#8217;t really understand politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 05:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Tea Party should avoid the  social issues.  That&#039;s not why it was formed. The people are too diverse to agree on any one social issue. The media lies about the TP, they&#039;re not Haters.  If you follow the principles of the Constitution that the Tea Party holds true to, then ALL AMERCIANS HAVE WILL FREE TO THOSE SOCIAL ISSUES.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tea Party should avoid the  social issues.  That&#8217;s not why it was formed. The people are too diverse to agree on any one social issue. The media lies about the TP, they&#8217;re not Haters.  If you follow the principles of the Constitution that the Tea Party holds true to, then ALL AMERCIANS HAVE WILL FREE TO THOSE SOCIAL ISSUES.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason P</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 02:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps we&#039;re not talking about the same thing. I assumed &quot;social conservative&quot; is pro-life, traditional marriage, and family values. 

Latin America is generally opposed to abortion as this article from the Economist mentions: http://www.economist.com/news/americas/21579065-brutal-farce-el-salvador-highlights-regional-failing-miscarriages-justice

Although I was surprised to find it has recently become gay-friendly (several articles on request).

The family is still big in Latin America, perhaps too important as the late Lawrence Auster writes: http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/006103.html

He describes it as a closed clannish dysfunctional type.


Now, I find that Latin Americans favor paternalistic government and often in the most crude form of a dictatorship. They are certainly not economic conservatives, as they go for socialism in a heartbeat. However, I&#039;m not convinced that they shouldn&#039;t be called social conservatives. Not that I believe social conservatives should welcome them (as Auster explains.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps we&#8217;re not talking about the same thing. I assumed &#8220;social conservative&#8221; is pro-life, traditional marriage, and family values. </p>
<p>Latin America is generally opposed to abortion as this article from the Economist mentions: <a href="http://www.economist.com/news/americas/21579065-brutal-farce-el-salvador-highlights-regional-failing-miscarriages-justice" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/news/americas/21579065-brutal-farce-el-salvador-highlights-regional-failing-miscarriages-justice</a></p>
<p>Although I was surprised to find it has recently become gay-friendly (several articles on request).</p>
<p>The family is still big in Latin America, perhaps too important as the late Lawrence Auster writes: <a href="http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/006103.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/006103.html</a></p>
<p>He describes it as a closed clannish dysfunctional type.</p>
<p>Now, I find that Latin Americans favor paternalistic government and often in the most crude form of a dictatorship. They are certainly not economic conservatives, as they go for socialism in a heartbeat. However, I&#8217;m not convinced that they shouldn&#8217;t be called social conservatives. Not that I believe social conservatives should welcome them (as Auster explains.)</p>
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