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	<title>Comments on: Obama Appeases Iran by Removing US Carrier from Gulf</title>
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		<title>By: Change Iran Now</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Change Iran Now]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2014 03:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing new here…it’s the whole basis of how Iran has been
dealing with the West in recent years. They can demand and do whatever they
like, because they know there is no downside under any circumstances.The Obama administration remains committed to
appeasement masquerading as diplomacy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing new here…it’s the whole basis of how Iran has been<br />
dealing with the West in recent years. They can demand and do whatever they<br />
like, because they know there is no downside under any circumstances.The Obama administration remains committed to<br />
appeasement masquerading as diplomacy</p>
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		<title>By: dntmkmecomoverther</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dntmkmecomoverther]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One has to wonder, &#039;If Iran strikes, will we stop and calculate the cost to respond before actually doing so?&#039;  That&#039;s where we are today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One has to wonder, &#8216;If Iran strikes, will we stop and calculate the cost to respond before actually doing so?&#8217;  That&#8217;s where we are today.</p>
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		<title>By: dntmkmecomoverther</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our CiC is dangerous...and perhaps butt ignorant.  For sure, he acts as if he hates this Republic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our CiC is dangerous&#8230;and perhaps butt ignorant.  For sure, he acts as if he hates this Republic.</p>
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		<title>By: Sgt koranflusher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sgt koranflusher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So what! A broken clock is right once in a while. The ships don&#039;t belong there anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what! A broken clock is right once in a while. The ships don&#8217;t belong there anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: DVult</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DVult]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 04:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes</p>
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		<title>By: simon.baker4@sky.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 02:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course he could have always forced a confrontation with the Iranians. Was that your preferred option?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course he could have always forced a confrontation with the Iranians. Was that your preferred option?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Sikorsky</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Sikorsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 02:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read the writing on the wall.. His policies are trying to provoke civil unrest so he can implement &quot;Marshal Law&quot; and not give up his power.. He sadly has the support of all the GOP hating Liberal Democrats.. Haven&#039;t you wondered why the Police have become more like a &quot;Para Military Corp with Homeland Security armed to the teeth.. By the way, Homeland Security only answers to one person!!!! POTUS..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the writing on the wall.. His policies are trying to provoke civil unrest so he can implement &#8220;Marshal Law&#8221; and not give up his power.. He sadly has the support of all the GOP hating Liberal Democrats.. Haven&#8217;t you wondered why the Police have become more like a &#8220;Para Military Corp with Homeland Security armed to the teeth.. By the way, Homeland Security only answers to one person!!!! POTUS..</p>
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		<title>By: darnellecheri</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[darnellecheri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 01:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too long.  Just too long.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too long.  Just too long.</p>
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		<title>By: A Z</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;From the first to the last, the Soviets believed that all weapons designs should prioritize production&quot;

Meaning that Defense industry production came 1st and foremost in the utopia of the USSR?

After taking a course in the history of engineering,  realized that textiles, weaving, and many other industries and crafts were very important to know about and nurture.

A person can make those connections when they study computer science also.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;From the first to the last, the Soviets believed that all weapons designs should prioritize production&#8221;</p>
<p>Meaning that Defense industry production came 1st and foremost in the utopia of the USSR?</p>
<p>After taking a course in the history of engineering,  realized that textiles, weaving, and many other industries and crafts were very important to know about and nurture.</p>
<p>A person can make those connections when they study computer science also.</p>
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		<title>By: A Z</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 00:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You must have had 2 complete careers. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must have had 2 complete careers. </p>
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		<title>By: blert</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 00:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IIRC, even the Russians are phasing out the Mig-29. While it&#039;s looked terrific in the airshows, its combat performance has been a disappointment. So it&#039;s no longer a big seller.
It&#039;s not even keeping Russian generals happy. 
At this time, the Su-37 is getting all of the praise.
However, the mentality has not changed. I would expect that it will take 24+ Su-37s on the ground to balance a single F-22.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IIRC, even the Russians are phasing out the Mig-29. While it&#8217;s looked terrific in the airshows, its combat performance has been a disappointment. So it&#8217;s no longer a big seller.<br />
It&#8217;s not even keeping Russian generals happy.<br />
At this time, the Su-37 is getting all of the praise.<br />
However, the mentality has not changed. I would expect that it will take 24+ Su-37s on the ground to balance a single F-22.</p>
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		<title>By: blert</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 00:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Indians, by way of Silicon Valley, have access to state of the art talent -- and at local prices.
Not surprisingly, they are turning up their noses at Russian craft.

The epic decline in Soviet defense production caused many of the minor factories to entirely shut down/ shift to other markets.

This means that even getting parts is a headache, supreme, for Soviet era designs. Some are actually flying because the USSR ordered so many spares that they are STILL available for the need.

Something like that is true for the USAF. It has a boneyard at Davis-Monthan AFB that is STILL being used to sustain aged aircraft -- most famously the B-52.

From the first to the last, the Soviets believed that all weapons designs should prioritize production -- as if the Cold War was a repeat of WWII. 

This thinking is reflected in the combat tactics of the Egyptians and Syrians. They expected to use it AND lose it. The Israelis expected to use it and NOT lose it.

This attitude is reflected in the Merkava tanks. The IDF is shocked when they start losing any at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Indians, by way of Silicon Valley, have access to state of the art talent &#8212; and at local prices.<br />
Not surprisingly, they are turning up their noses at Russian craft.</p>
<p>The epic decline in Soviet defense production caused many of the minor factories to entirely shut down/ shift to other markets.</p>
<p>This means that even getting parts is a headache, supreme, for Soviet era designs. Some are actually flying because the USSR ordered so many spares that they are STILL available for the need.</p>
<p>Something like that is true for the USAF. It has a boneyard at Davis-Monthan AFB that is STILL being used to sustain aged aircraft &#8212; most famously the B-52.</p>
<p>From the first to the last, the Soviets believed that all weapons designs should prioritize production &#8212; as if the Cold War was a repeat of WWII. </p>
<p>This thinking is reflected in the combat tactics of the Egyptians and Syrians. They expected to use it AND lose it. The Israelis expected to use it and NOT lose it.</p>
<p>This attitude is reflected in the Merkava tanks. The IDF is shocked when they start losing any at all.</p>
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		<title>By: truebearing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[truebearing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2014 22:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps Obama should just give Iran some nukes, missiles, and a submarine or three. That should make them like us.


I shouldn&#039;t joke about what Obama will do for his fellow Muslims. Nothing he does for them should surprise anyone, unless he finally acted in the interest of the United States. That would really be a shock.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Obama should just give Iran some nukes, missiles, and a submarine or three. That should make them like us.</p>
<p>I shouldn&#8217;t joke about what Obama will do for his fellow Muslims. Nothing he does for them should surprise anyone, unless he finally acted in the interest of the United States. That would really be a shock.</p>
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		<title>By: afftongrown</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[afftongrown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2014 22:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[May God have mercy on the USA!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May God have mercy on the USA!!</p>
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		<title>By: DVult</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DVult]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you negotiate with your enemies, if you are the stronger side, YOU ask for concessions from the other side rather than conceding anything to them. If they refuse then you force them to make concessions or walk away from the negotiations. If you are the weaker side then you ask for concessions anyway and if your enemy gives you any part of what you ask then you know he is a fool and proceed accordingly to ask for more concessions. If he refuses and smashes you over the head for your temerity then you might possibly start to take the negotiations seriously.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you negotiate with your enemies, if you are the stronger side, YOU ask for concessions from the other side rather than conceding anything to them. If they refuse then you force them to make concessions or walk away from the negotiations. If you are the weaker side then you ask for concessions anyway and if your enemy gives you any part of what you ask then you know he is a fool and proceed accordingly to ask for more concessions. If he refuses and smashes you over the head for your temerity then you might possibly start to take the negotiations seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: A Z</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Mig-29 self-destructs. The difference between Soviet machines and American machines is so great that the Indians have entirely re-evaluated which way to place their bets. They certainly have rejected Russian electronics.&quot; - blert

The experimental F16 with forward swept wings had 3 onboard computers.  Without the computers  the pilot could not fly the plane and it would destroy itself, because it is a fighter plane and fighters are meant to be inherently unstable.

Not that I follow it but that is an interesting fact about the MIG 29 that bears further research.  I&#039;ll have to ask someone I know who works with that type of code.

So hacker in the old Soviet Union can hack and scam but they can&#039;t write reliable code.

Money talks and BS walks and the Indian are walking away from Russian product. interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Mig-29 self-destructs. The difference between Soviet machines and American machines is so great that the Indians have entirely re-evaluated which way to place their bets. They certainly have rejected Russian electronics.&#8221; &#8211; blert</p>
<p>The experimental F16 with forward swept wings had 3 onboard computers.  Without the computers  the pilot could not fly the plane and it would destroy itself, because it is a fighter plane and fighters are meant to be inherently unstable.</p>
<p>Not that I follow it but that is an interesting fact about the MIG 29 that bears further research.  I&#8217;ll have to ask someone I know who works with that type of code.</p>
<p>So hacker in the old Soviet Union can hack and scam but they can&#8217;t write reliable code.</p>
<p>Money talks and BS walks and the Indian are walking away from Russian product. interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: blert</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Making the right moves for the wrong reason.

The actual reason for having a CV in the Gulf was to thwart Jerusalem.

The waters are too tight to permit a proper and ordinary defense of the task force. This takes dozens of miles on a side for the escort blanket.

Until 1991, the USN never sailed into the Gulf. Some argued that to do so was militarily insane.

Without a doubt the naval brass has wanted to get out of the Gulf for years and years. The proper location for our task force should be to support the ISAF.

Air dominance in the Gulf should be left to the KSA air force -- with its F-15s. The Iranians have Soviet fighters -- which turn out to be hangar queens. 

(The Mig-29 self-destructs. The difference between Soviet machines and American machines is so great that the Indians have entirely re-evaluated which way to place their bets. They certainly have rejected Russian electronics.)

(American planes are combat ready 80% of the time -- or better. Soviet designs are combat ready 20% of the time -- or worse. This is so because the Russians have had to take their materials technology further to its limits so that their machines will perform at American levels. The American planes are actually de-rated back from their stress-limits.

This is well exemplified by the M-1 turbine power-pack. It&#039;s publically rated at 1,500 shaft hp. It has a throttle restrictor. When removed, the turbine can put out an extra 1,000 hp. Field practice has shown that it was over-designed -- and that the extra zip is unnecessary and burns too much fuel. 

The F-15 also uses throttle restriction. This is why you&#039;ll read of various friendly fly-offs and mock combats that make the Other Guys look good. The USAF is, in fact, not even breaking a sweat.

When the balloon goes up, the Other Guys find out they can&#039;t stay in the sky.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making the right moves for the wrong reason.</p>
<p>The actual reason for having a CV in the Gulf was to thwart Jerusalem.</p>
<p>The waters are too tight to permit a proper and ordinary defense of the task force. This takes dozens of miles on a side for the escort blanket.</p>
<p>Until 1991, the USN never sailed into the Gulf. Some argued that to do so was militarily insane.</p>
<p>Without a doubt the naval brass has wanted to get out of the Gulf for years and years. The proper location for our task force should be to support the ISAF.</p>
<p>Air dominance in the Gulf should be left to the KSA air force &#8212; with its F-15s. The Iranians have Soviet fighters &#8212; which turn out to be hangar queens. </p>
<p>(The Mig-29 self-destructs. The difference between Soviet machines and American machines is so great that the Indians have entirely re-evaluated which way to place their bets. They certainly have rejected Russian electronics.)</p>
<p>(American planes are combat ready 80% of the time &#8212; or better. Soviet designs are combat ready 20% of the time &#8212; or worse. This is so because the Russians have had to take their materials technology further to its limits so that their machines will perform at American levels. The American planes are actually de-rated back from their stress-limits.</p>
<p>This is well exemplified by the M-1 turbine power-pack. It&#8217;s publically rated at 1,500 shaft hp. It has a throttle restrictor. When removed, the turbine can put out an extra 1,000 hp. Field practice has shown that it was over-designed &#8212; and that the extra zip is unnecessary and burns too much fuel. </p>
<p>The F-15 also uses throttle restriction. This is why you&#8217;ll read of various friendly fly-offs and mock combats that make the Other Guys look good. The USAF is, in fact, not even breaking a sweat.</p>
<p>When the balloon goes up, the Other Guys find out they can&#8217;t stay in the sky.)</p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The more these feckless leaders of ours appease our enemy, the more likely war will come to pass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more these feckless leaders of ours appease our enemy, the more likely war will come to pass.</p>
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		<title>By: Alisia S</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alisia S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2014 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uh, how many more days are left in the Obummer administration? What an embarrassment that tool has become.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, how many more days are left in the Obummer administration? What an embarrassment that tool has become.</p>
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