Obama Deports American Jobs

ObamaObama’s excuse for his illegal amnesty will be that the immigration system is “broken” forcing him to act. But when Obama says that the system is broken, he means that some parts of it still work and so he intends to break immigration all the way through to benefit his own corrupt political allies.

That will hurt his own voters the most, but the Democratic Party has a notoriously masochistic relationship with its voting base. It beats them up and then it gaslights them by hugging them and telling them that it was really the mean Republicans who punched them in the face.

When African-American unemployment rates rise, the workers who can’t find jobs because of all the brand new DREAMERs won’t blame the White House, they’ll blame the evil Republicans for income inequality, assuming Sharpton manages to read the term correctly from his MSNBC teleprompter.

According to Obama our immigration system is broken because it doesn’t allow illegal aliens who illegally crossed the border to take American jobs. That’s not a broken system, that’s what the system is supposed to do.

When illegal aliens aren’t allowed to legally take American jobs, that’s how you know the immigration system is working.

In the language of progressivism, helping means ruining and fixing means breaking. A system that fulfills any useful purpose must be reformed out of all usefulness. If the tattered shreds of the immigration system still keep a single Democratic voter from legally cashing a welfare check and casting a vote, then immigration must be reformed and helped and fixed until it is completely destroyed.

The immigration system is broken because it was reformed so many times that it makes as much sense as an outhouse on a space shuttle. Its main function now is to bring millions of people without jobs to a country where millions are out of work. Obama wants to fix that by adding millions more people.

Our system of immigration is a perfectly good system for importing lots of low wage workers. The only problem is they’re being imported into a country where there are a lot more low wage workers than there are jobs. The cost of providing food stamps and social services for the immigrants and the Americans they put out of work is passed on to the shrinking middle class which kills more jobs.

Some Republicans would like to modify it to help Mark Zuckerberg bring cheaper third world programmers and engineers to replace the Americans over at Facebook. Why settle for just wiping out the working class, when you can also take out chunks of the middle class?

Our immigration system made perfect sense back when we were opening factories everywhere. It made sense when new ranches needed hands and land needed working. It makes a lot less sense when the government is fighting a war on carbon, when ranches have to get out of the way of the spotted red toad and farms are starved of water in the name of the environment.

The million immigrants a year are not entering booming industries, but serving as cheap labor in declining ones. And they’re doing it in a country where declining industries and poor workers are already being subsidized by taxpayers in a dozen different ways. Why then should taxpayers also be subsidizing the replacement of American workers with Somali and Honduran workers?

Who benefits from that except the Democratic Party which not only killed the industries, but is now managing to kill the American workforce? The glorious future of the new economy is a government subsidized Chinese factory using foreign workers to make subsidized solar panels in Oklahoma while taxpayers remain on the hook for the subsidies which used bonds sold to Chinese investors.

Declining industries tighten their belts by cutting costs. They find the cheapest employees they can. Those cheapest employees become a constituency for the nanny state. The nanny state makes it even more expensive to operate. The cycle spins on until the only industries left are state subsidized and everyone directly or indirectly works for the state. And the only items of collateral with which to borrow more money to subsidize them with are the land and the people. That’s not America. That’s Africa.

The Obama economy has created mostly low wage jobs. Those jobs continue to be filled by immigrants. There still aren’t enough jobs so Obama is proposing to create even less jobs by adding more immigrants by legalizing more illegal aliens.

There is something broken here, but it’s not so much immigration as Obama and his party.

Last week I spoke to a British immigration lawyer who described how difficult it was for seniors in the United Kingdom to retire in the United States. While most countries welcome wealthy retirees, our system makes it difficult for them to move and bring their money over here.

Meanwhile in his 2013 State of the Union address, Obama had praised Desiline Victor, a 102-year-old Haitian woman who had moved to the United States at around 80 and never learned to speak English, but did spend hours waiting in line in Florida to vote for Obama. There are plenty of senior immigrants coming through family reunification for a big bite of a social welfare system they never paid into.

But the Democratic Party would rather have a voter than a worker. And so what we have is not an immigration system, but a migration system.

That’s why Obama and his people fought so hard against an Ebola travel ban. It’s why the New York Times editorialized against allowing Cuban doctors to defect because of the “brain drain” but instead urged that “American immigration policy should give priority to the world’s neediest refugees.”

America certainly takes in plenty of needy people, but what the New York Times is emphasizing is that we should be taking in people with nothing to contribute and keeping out those who do. Its ideal immigrant will at best be a low wage worker and at worst a permanent welfare case. We don’t want Cuban doctors. We want Somali muggers and Liberian Ebola cases and Pakistani terrorists.

Immigration is not meant to serve American interests. America is meant to serve immigration.

The end result of this immigration policy will be a stratified society with a permanent lower class and a thin upper class whose leftists can always start a riot by shouting about income equality without ever being able to offer it. Without social mobility what we will have left is social instability. There will be lots of young men with time on their hands to build bombs or throw stones.

If the left doesn’t win through the system, they’ll have their revolutionary constituency standing by.

The only way we can afford the immigration policy that we have now is with a lot more industry and a lot less welfare. Instead our immigration rates were widened and rerouted to the Third World even as our actual industries declined. We kept on taking workers we didn’t have jobs for. We built ghettoes and rust belts and our politicians kept on reciting robotic speeches about being a nation of immigrants.

Immigration requires opportunity. We still have it, but less of it than we used to. Our immigration system is not based on opportunity. It’s based on a migratory flow of Democratic Party voters.

What broke the system was making it as open as possible to those who had the least to offer while closing it tightly to those who had the most to offer. Now Obama wants to import illegal aliens while deporting American jobs. He wants to trade American jobs to illegal aliens for Democratic votes.

If the immigration system is to work again, it should work for America… not for Obama.

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  • Bamaguje

    “Immigration reform” is just another Obama weapon to destroy America.

    • MattBracken

      What can we do about it on short notice?
      How about a car-horn honking blitz while Obama is speaking?
      Blowing whistles, banging pans, what can we do to force American Pravda to report our rage?

      • JacksonPearson

        Reality from the Obama Twilight Zone….

      • blasater

        THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON

        by Rudyard Kipling

        It was not part of their blood,

        It came to them very late,

        With long arrears to make good,

        When the Saxon began to hate.

        They were not easily moved,

        They were icy — willing to wait

        Till every count should be proved,

        Ere the Saxon began to hate.

        Their voices were even and low.

        Their eyes were level and straight.

        There was neither sign nor show

        When the Saxon began to hate.

        It was not preached to the
        crowd.

        It was not taught by the state.

        No man spoke it aloud

        When the Saxon began to hate.

        It was not suddenly bred.

        It will not swiftly abate.

        Through the chilled years ahead,

        When Time shall count from the date

        That the Saxon began to hate.

        • Edward E

          When we have: Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White Countries for EVERYBODY, what do we have over periods of time?

          We have fewer and fewer White children

          When we mix more and more non-Whites with fewer and fewer Whites in the same living space?

          In time, White extinction. Its genocide because this doesn’t happen by
          chance. It is being forced upon Whites just like a rapist does not take
          no for an answer

          How is this not White geNOcide?

          Anti-racist is a code for anti-white

  • dwayne roberson

    The guards on the border, as well as the police officers in Ferguson can feel and hear something in the distance. As the crescendo builds they will understand how Joshua Chamberlain and the 20th Maine must have felt when they were expected to hold the rocky hilltop without any support of consequence.

  • BohdanUke1

    I’ve come to the conclusion that the pen is not mightier than the sword, especially if that’s all ya got left to fight with. We made our beds, now we’ll have to sleep in it… nighty night…

    • Michael Garfinkel

      Who then will protect the Democrat base – the welfare, imprisoned minorities in their well-earned poverty, the single woman detached from family and angry at the world, and the gentry Liberals, who, to quote Greenfield, “can’t change a tire” – when the country they have so assiduously undermined begins its rapid descent to the bottom?

      • BohdanUke1

        Divine or Alien intervention… my “disposable income” (2c) is on the latter. Protect the dem base? I’ll get right on that…

  • DaCoachK

    Allow me to play on the words of Ann Coulter: Democrats would like to help the American economy, but that would put them on the side of America, and they simply won’t stand for that. Democrats have to change the language because if they came out and said what they really stand for, no one would vote for them. That is why they are now “progressives” instead of “liberals.” This is why you hear “fair share” instead of more taxes. This is how GRID–Gay Related Infectious Disease–became AIDS. These people who vote for these people don’t even realize that they will be the ones most affected, especially black entry level workers. Who do you think will take those entry level jobs at construction sites or other companies that blacks used to get? I do hate Democrats and wish the political “Cold War” that America is engaged in would turn hot real soon.

    • Capnmikey

      The Democrat Party became the American Communist Party in 1960…and waged a No-Win war in Vietnam for 13 years before surrendering in 1973 after we won a victory in 1968 at Tet..Kissinger sold us out and rwo million of our allies were slaughtered…John Kerry, Jane Fonda and a bunch of university professors should have been tried and executed for treason…including the draft dodger Bill Clinton..where is George Patton when we need him?? Now we have a muslim, marxist, mulatto in the White House finishing their work…good-bye America, hello Zimbabawe!

      • DaCoachK

        I could not agree more. On each point, you are correct. The country began its long decline in the 1960s, when the Woodstock generation thought they could change the world by smoking dope and listening to the Stones. Name a problem this nation has, and it has its roots in that terrible ten year period. I always found it terribly ironic that the “Greatest Generation” spawned the Baby Boomer, the “Worst-est Generation.”

  • Sheik Yerbouti

    Obama is just the latest flavor in this drama. NAFTA was no gift to Americans either. Neither was Reagan’s capitulation amnesty. Are they afraid Mexico will attack if we don’t fling the gates open? Or are they simply a few hundred traitors who run our nation?

    • Michael Garfinkel

      Several thousand traitors who run things, many million “stupid” American voters who enable them.

      • Skip V. Patel

        I have been writing about this for years. Mr.Garfinkel’s comment sums up several hundred of my posts.

    • AgntOrngVctm

      Oh great, the NAFTA and Reagan boogiemen surface as the Libertarian enters the discussion.
      The moral equivalence is sickening.

  • joetentpeg

    Perfect.

    He should call it “The Jobs for Votes Act.”

    Hey.

    Isn’t that illegal?

    • MattBracken

      This is the “jobs plan” the new GOP congress should put on Obama’s desk on Day One. An iron-clad border fence bill, with a timetable.

      Any Rat who votes against the bill will be swept from Congress in 2016.

      • NJK

        That fence we were promised in 2006 or 07 was defunded, wasn’t it?

        • MattBracken

          They just declared the border secure enough and pulled the plug after only a few 100 miles were half-built. Both open-border Rats and GOPe Quislings hate a real border fence like the devil hates Holy Water.

  • Hard Little Machine

    At a very practical level, no one knows or has suggested how to discern who these ‘only’ 4 or 5 million people are and how to validate they are even entitled to Obama’s Nero Dictate. There simply is no way to know who among the millions of people who are NOT documented in the first place, the people who are documented sufficiently well to let them into the amnesty pool. So obviously it’s not going to be 4 or 5 million it’s going to be ALL of them or at least some large multiple of 4 or 5. 10? 15? 20? Who knows? What Obama will likely do is simply allow anyone who has any relative they can claim as either a citizen by birth or related in any way to anyone who is or who is a legitimate alien reside to become a citizen too. There isn’t going to be a ‘fine’ or a ‘tax’. There’s barely going to be any paperwork at all because not even our out of control Federal bureaucracy is large enough to handle millions of people who all claim to be part of the group that Obama wants to make citizens or Democratic voters or something. They couldn’t handle a hundred thousand people who walked here this year and demanded action because they’re ‘children’ (under the law that’s anyone under the age of 30).

    • Michael Garfinkel

      Let’s not forget the second part of this scheme: the Democrat effort to do away with voter identification requirements altogether.

  • 95Theses

    The Real Character of the Executive
    The Federalist No. 69
    1788, March 14
    Alexander Hamilton

    The President of the United States would be an officer elected by the people for four years; the king of Great Britain is a perpetual and hereditary prince. The one would be amenable to personal punishment and disgrace; the person of the other is sacred and inviolable.
    The one can confer no privileges whatever; the other can make denizens of aliens, noblemen of commoners.
    … What answer shall we give to those who would persuade us that things so unlike resemble each other? The same that ought to be given to those who tell us that a government, the whole power of which would be in the hands of the elective and periodical servants of the people, is an aristocracy, a monarchy, and a despotism.
    http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa69.htm

    • pupsncats

      The problem is, of course, that the part of human nature which is dark and lusts for power rose over and above the part of human nature which is light and looks upon the other before self-interest. The obvious predominately animalistic culture has grown and expanded so that we are a country of people ruled by (willingly) “perpetual” self-appointed princes who do “make denizens of aliens.”

  • cree

    Since our president is a criminal, he should stopped. The Constitution says he has violated his oath of office. No 2/3 Senate, do it anyway. The low information Americans needs to know what is going on. Black riots or lose the republic to the progressive vote?

    • 95Theses

      Yes, impeachment is necessary – even if there are not enough votes in the incoming Senate to convict. Impeachment will have several positive
      effects:

      1. It will leave a permanent stain and stigma to Obama’s legacy (making him only the 3rd president to experience the shame of the indictment).

      2. It will demonstrate to the voters who elected Republicans in order to put an end to Obama’s lawlessness that they did take measures to rein in his tyrannical, unconstitutional actions.

      3. Following impeachment, the Senate will hear the charges and the evidence (transparent as it is) will be presented to its members who will then vote to acquit or convict. Those who vote to acquit will have to face an angry and indignant electorate who will not forget how they failed their oath to give impartial justice, and will likely receive their constituents rebuke and be kicked out. Preceding that there remains another
      remedy, and that is a recall election.

      4. It is not inconceivable that some Democrat senators may actually vote to convict even if only to improve his chances of being reelected. And should even one senator telegraph his intention to do so, it could have a cascading effect on other Democrat senators who – seeing the handwriting on the wall — decided to fall in with the more principled
      faction.

      Those who believe that an impeachment (much like a government shutdown) will have a negative impact on Conservative prospects in
      the next election have short memories. The last shutdown was late last year and it had ZERO impact on November 04.

      • WW4

        Trey Gowdy: “Nobody is discussing impeachment except for pundits and commentators. First of all, impeachment is a punishment, it’s not a remedy. Second of all, the only people who want to talk about impeachment are the president’s allies.”

        • 95Theses

          Well, Mr. Gowdy should be. And whatever Trey Gowdy says, he doesn’t speak ex cathedra.
          Not only that – according to Trey Gowdy – Andrew McCarthy (of National Review) is an Obama ally? Oh, please.

          Faithless Execution: Building the Political
          Case for Obama’s Impeachment

          http://www.amazon.com/Faithless-Execution-Building-Political-Impeachment/dp/1594037760/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1416505927&sr=1-1&keywords=andrew+mccarthy+faithless+execution

        • cree

          Gowdy also mentioned the Biden succession possibility if the 1 was impeached, killing the impeachment avenue. Its a good point. Which makes the Senate unlikely to convict. From the 1′s first announcement of Biden on his ticket, my thought was “he’s got to be nuts.” It didn’t take me long at all to reason that dear leader did that as impeachment insurance. Smart move. Why? Unconstitutional transformation of the country.

          My point differs from Gowdy in that I think it would be a remedy (at least to some extent) by educating much more of the public as to what is going on. Impeachment could not escape the press. A whole lot of dirty, nah filthy laundry would be exposed. Dupes realizing they’ve been deceived would change public opinion rightfully to what it should be; including you.

          • 95Theses

            That’s a good point about impeachment insurance. But as cuckoo as Biden is, I doubt that he would have ever considered exercising the sort of unconstitutional abuse of executive authority as this narcissist has committed.

            It’s a shame that the Democrats lack the principles to send
            their own delegate of a Goldwater, Scott, and Rhodes to approach Obama (as Nixon was) to convince him to resign … and retain what little dignity is leftover. In fact, it would probably be the only honest thing Obama has done in his tenure.

          • cree

            Agree on Biden. He probably could have been constrained. Him as a president, scary; the 1, dangerous. O man humbled, doubtful.

  • Rosasolis

    I don’t often watch CNN International news anymore, because it is so obvious that
    the Obama administration is buying this sender to keep on supporting them!
    But because I had hoped to hear more about the current Middle-east nightmare,
    I watched their evening program yesterday …There was very little news about the Jihad but they did provide a 1/2 hour interview with Wolf featuring an old codger democrate senator (complete with bow-tye!), who declared how wonderful Obama’s refugee Amnesty Law will be for 3 – 4 million people seeking refuge and care
    in America! I couldn’t believe this! This old codger never used the word: ILLEGALS, but he went on to say that these poor refugees will help Americans by
    offering many services, such as mowing your lawns, and providing help in your
    households!…At the end of the 1/2 hour of this Obama promotion interview, I couldn’t help wondering how many more of these sort incapable people are
    representing your Democrate party!
    Our government (Netherlands) has decided that we can no longer accept any
    more refugees from Syria and Iraq. Our accomodation is overfull, and we can
    no longer provide more medical care for more sick people, and care for pregnant
    women, babies and young children. Although we can no longer accept more
    refugees, our government has decided that the accomodations for the hundreds of thousands of refugees we are now supporting are to be made warm and
    comfortable for the winter. Last but not least, our talented, poor students, earn the cost of their daily living, (which their scholarships do not profide), by
    mowing lawns, gardening, providing household help, and providing extra care
    in hospitals and nursing homes. If these temporary jobs for students would be
    replaced by ILLEGALS, how could these poor students complete their studies
    and get their diplomas…and then have the opportunity to work further in their
    chosen field? Do not let Obama or his old codgers allow the talent that you
    still have in America to go to waste!

    • cree

      Hey friend. Thanks for passing on the consequences headed our way from experience.

    • BohdanUke1

      A college degree in America, unfortunately, is not worth the paper it’s written on because it’s being handed out, not for achievement, but because you’re a “minority” or illegal alien. The students that actually earned their degrees by honestly working for it, is lessened by the wholesale abuse of the system and what it stood for, once.

  • Capnmikey

    Our marxist dictator speaks today…well, reads his teleprompter programmed by Valerie Jarrett and David Axelrod..two Chicago communists. I’ll try not to puke!

  • mtnhikerdude

    There will be blood by 2016

  • MrUniteUs1

    Greenfield goes kitchen sink. Actually Democrats want to reverse Bush era tax law changes, that reward companies that ship jobs overseas. Companies like Bain capital for example. Republicans were ready to let the U.S. Auto industry collapse. President Obama rescued the auto industry and the U.S Economy.

    • CDM

      I’ve probably asked in vain before for you to cite a specific provision in the tax code “that reward companies that ship jobs overseas” and probably never got an answer because there is no such thing.

      • kasandra

        MrUniteUs1 has a problem that compels him to make unsupported arguments and to attribute arguments that were never made by other people to those people and then attack them for those arguments. Believe me, you’re just wasting your time responding to him. Also, he believes anything he sees in Think Progress and Mother Jones and repeats it here, no matter how outrageous it is, without checking to see if it has any veracity. But that’s a whole ‘nuther issue.

        • 95Theses

          You gotta love his name, it’s so disingenuous! And so much like Obama – the Great Uniter – it’s downright appropriate.

        • MrUniteUs1

          Senate Republicans Block Narrow Bill on Offshore Breaks …
          http://www.bloomberg.com/…/senate-republicans-block-narro...
          Bloomberg L.P.Jul 30, 2014 – Senate Republicans halted a Democratic measure that would limit tax breaks for companies that outsource jobs and operations from the U.S..

          • Pete

            HTTP Error 404
            File not found.

      • MrUniteUs1

        WASHINGTON – Once again, a Senate Republican filibuster killed a pro-worker bill, the Bring The Jobs Home Act, to extend tax credits to firms which do just that.

        By a 54-42 vote on July 30, lawmakers tried to cut off the GOP
        talkathon against the Bring The Jobs Home Act. The measure would yank
        tax deductions from firms that off-shore U.S. jobs while extending a 20
        percent federal tax credit to those that return off-shored jobs to our
        shores. Senators needed 60 votes to cut off the debate and didn’t get
        them.

        http://peoplesworld.org/gop-filibuster-kills-bring-the-jobs-home-bill/

        • CDM

          So you think the United Steel Workers and a communist website are authoritative sources? Why don’t you try including The Onion as well?

          • MrUniteUs1

            Senate Republicans Block Narrow Bill on Offshore Breaks …
            http://www.bloomberg.com/…/senate-republicans-block-narro...
            Bloomberg L.P.Jul 30, 2014 – Senate Republicans halted a Democratic measure that would limit tax breaks for companies that outsource jobs and operations from the U.S..

            GOP senators block top Obama jobs initiative – CNN.com
            http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/19/…/senate-bring-jobs-home-bill-blocked/
            CNNJul 19, 2012 – Senate Republicans blocked Obama’s jobs initiative bill Thursday. STORY … that “insource” jobs to the U.S. from overseas while eliminating tax …
            The Cost To Our Economy From Republican Obstruction …
            ourfuture.org/…/the-cost-to-our-economy…
            Campaign for America’s FutureSep 23, 2014 – Republicans have blocked every effort since the stimulus to maintain … Here are just a few of the hundreds of bills Senate Republicans have … Home Act – stop tax breaks for moving jobs and production facilities out of the country … More offshore oil drilling; Student Success Act – Promotes charter schools, …
            Let’s sue Republicans for promoting export of U.S. jobs | The …
            http://www.thestand.org/2014/08/lets-sue-gop-for-promoting-export-of-jobs/Aug 8, 2014 – The GOP blocked a bill that would have ended tax breaks bestowed on … Only one Senate Republican voted for the Bring Jobs Home Act — the bill … for by American taxpayers who suffer when corporations move offshore.
            Republican senators block tax hike on firms moving abroad …
            http://www.cbsnews.com/…/republican-senators-block-tax-hike-on-f...
            CBS NewsJul 30, 2014 – WASHINGTON – Republican senators blocked an election-year bill Wednesday to limit tax breaks for U.S. companies that move operations overseas. The bill … “Frankly, a vote against this bill is a vote against American jobs.”.

          • CDM

            Well, none of those things are the IRS. Two are reliable Democrat organs (CNN, Bloomberg), the others are a progressive group and a union. Ah, well. I guess I have to explain. When someone commits funds to set up another work site, that is an expense. It doesn’t matter if the site is across the ocean, across the country, across town, or across the street. This has been this way like forever.

            Where you’re obviously getting confused is when people use “tax break” which is a subjective term. What some people call a “tax break”, others call a “legitimate tax deductible business expense”.

            In any case, you really have to stretch definitions and logic to say that this somehow “rewards companies that ship jobs overseas”. If companies are doing so, why doesn’t the government look at its own policies to figure out why?

          • Dan Knight

            Well put CDM

      • MrUniteUs1
    • JERSEY FATMOUTH

      What are you doing up at this hour? It’s still light outside.

  • MrUniteUs1

    Why do illegal employers get a pass?

    • WW4

      Could it be because they’re much harder to demonize politically?

    • CDM

      Since you seem to be simple-minded, I’ll explain it simply: The law has no teeth and is intentionally written that way.

      Let’s do a scenario. Let’s say you run a business (I know, fat chance) and you want to hire someone. Someone shows up and you ask for his SS number. He gives you a number and you ask to see his SS card to verify it. But you can’t. It is illegal to ask to see a SS card.

      So you take this SS number and run it through eVerify. eVerify comes back and tells you that the name and the number don’t match. You want to fire that person because he might not be eligible to work in the US legally because the SS number he gave you was phony. But you can’t because that’s illegal too.

      The only thing you can legally do is tell the person of the problem and ask them to straighten it out with Social Security. You’ve done all the law allows you to do.

      I know I probably wasted my keystrokes on you, but maybe I’ll be doing a service to others.

      • 95Theses

        So it’s illegal to fire someone because they gave you a
        fraudulent Social Security number? I’m shocked … sorta.
        Can you link that?

        • CDM

          Here’s one place to start. Wading through federal regulations is not fun.

          http://www.ssa.gov/employer/SSNcard.htm

          • Dan Knight

            Not fun … I spent seven months working SSDI cases, and thought my head would explode. Even PSD reg’s are more entertaining.

        • Dan Knight

          No. It’s true / and not. If you fire someone for having a fake SSN it is a wrongful termination and you can be sued. The reasoning problem lies in ‘fake.’ You may know the SSN is ‘fake’ but you as the employer cannot fire the employee unless the employee is convicted of the crime of stealing the SSN (which has never happened in my experience). On the other hand, if you make a loan, or hire someone with the same fake credentials, you are guilty of a crime unless you have some evidence of good faith (such as eVerify). (Which has happened in my experience.) Usually though, the SSN’s do not cross b/c the crooks are getting closed accounts or new unused numbers.

          One last wonder point: There’s no record. All of this is administrative.

          The people I know who’ve been burned were shot down with a civil penalty by the Human Rights Commission. The employer fires the employee for the wrong ID, and gets nailed as a ‘racist.’

          In Texas the solution is easy. Just hire someone else of the same
          Democratigraphic, and then fire the suspected perp under the ‘at will’
          law. Since you fired the perp for ‘no reason,’ it’s okay – at least in
          Texas. And since you hired someone in a protected classification, you’re
          totally safe.

          This is outside my experience: But if you live in a state where criminals have a right to work (and non-criminals don’t), an employer may run afoul of illegally knowing the employee has committed a crime. Not sure how that works in such states (I live in Texas), but it can’t be good.

          • 95Theses

            Wow. Well then, at least CDM was correct when he began his reply by saying that The law has no teeth and is intentionally written that way.

          • CDM

            I should say that it’s a little more complicated than that. It seems Congress can pass some law setting some goal, in this case the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, and another agency (EEOC) can gut it under the guise of anti-discrimination.

          • Dan Knight

            Yes, CDM is essentially correct on all points IMHO. But, We are discussing a complex arrangement of laws with many moving parts though. It would be difficult to make any broad generalizations without running into trouble with the exceptions, loopholes, etc. My own comments are full of ‘holes’ too, examined with a cherry picker and a fine tooth comb. Bottom line: Illegal migrants are being exploited by the Dem’s, and everyone – even the illegals – are being deliberately harmed for the D’s benefit (and any R’s or L’s who go along with this are either fools, shills, or traitors).

          • 95Theses

            I think that the consumer should exercise some say-so insofar as deciding whose labor they can choose.

            When I had my roof replaced back in 2010, I told the
            estimator that I wanted only American citizens to do the labor, and that I wanted it written into my contract. Done.

            Next following week, a truck full of Mexicans (yes, I
            profile) pulled up and their lead man (who could barely speak English) said that they were there to replace my roof. Immediately, I whipped out my cellphone and called the owner and reminded him of the stipulations
            written into my contract. The truck continued to sit there — packed with now sweating illegals — for another 45 minutes before they finally pulled away.

            The following week — all Americans. It can be done.
            Contractors want your business, and if every patriotic American consumer insisted – even now – on American labor and American labor ONLY it would go a long way toward repelling the foreign invaders. Take away their means of work and a place to live (which means going after Section 8 housing slumlords), and they will self-deport. There would have been no need for “immigration reform” i.e., amnesty.

            When I go to restaurants and see Mexicans and Central Americans performing “the work that Americans won’t do”, I will ask the management if they have green cards or if they participate in E-Verify. And if the answer does not comport with me (or the manager is being evasive) I take my money and appetite elsewhere. Period.

            I’m more than a little indignant this morning, and it will
            not subside anytime soon. I could not be more disgusted with this man (and the fools who voted for him) than I am now. However, I hope and pray – literally – that the Republicans do not blow this opportunity.

          • Dan Knight

            Agreed, I understand your frustration!

          • CDM

            Thank you. I thought I might have to spend all day on this. The problem is that this covers so many different agencies and they don’t all say the same thing. HHS, DOL, DHS, EEOC all don’t say exactly the same thing.

            Anyway here’s another:

            http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/practices/inquiries_citizenship.cfm

            “Because of potential claims of illegal discrimination, employment eligibility verification should be conducted after an offer to hire has been made.”

      • Dan Knight

        They way I’ve seen it work, the SSN’s come back just fine. they use closed or unused account numbers. And they usually have great (fake) cards. If the numbers are discovered to be fraudulent, it’s assumed the error falls on the other side. For example, SSA discovers the number corresponds to a dead guy in Fresno. the employee is issued a new TIN. I have no idea what happens to the Fresno guy’s account. Nothing happens to the worker or the employer unless the employer makes a big deal out of it: If he does the employee sues the employer and wins. See my other post to 95theses.

        PS: There’s no record of this stuff, and don’t ask me how I know. I’m sure this doesn’t cover all of the possibilities since I’m only going by experience.

      • trickyblain

        Sort of a snide comment for being wrong.

        Not only can you not ask to see a SS card, you can’t ask for a SS number, so you can’t “take this SS number and run it through eVerify.” The employer must, however, physically examine either one List A acceptable document or a combination of at least one acceptable document from List B AND List C. That info goes onto a Form I-9. The employer submits the I-9 to the USCIS (either through E-Verify or by other means). USCIS will match the SS number based on the information provided on the worker’s Form I-9. They’ll let you know if there is a no-match.

        And it’s very much illegal not to take action after discovering, or being notified of, an unauthorized worker. Period. The USCIS is very clear that failing to do so will result in fines for an employer — it happens every day. There are some, limited,circumstances where a worker should be given time to “straighten it out,” but the employer can (and should) place that worker on an unpaid leave of absence until the worker can do so. If the worker can’t do so when the leave expires, the employer, by law, must terminate employment.

        • Pete

          What is wrong TrickyBlain?

          Usually you are like a tick on someone’s @zz.

          Are you so partisan that you will go down with the ship?

          eVerify FAQs

          A case cannot be created in E-Verify without a Social Security number.

          • trickyblain

            Yes, not my proudest/sharpest moment. Mea Culpa. I was thinking about SS Numbers during the recruitment process. An embarrassing moment.

            I do think the second paragraph is on the mark, however.

          • Pete

            The only good thing Obama did was step up raids against employers although I think that was for show.

            The enemy is the Chamber of commerce also. I could be fore Amnesty. But the border has to be fixed 1st. Otherwise, it is a one sided deal.

            Along with the border all the sanctuary city BS has to be prosecuted going forward and visa overstayers have to be dealt with.

    • Pete

      Because you have been bought and sold down the river again.

      The Democrat Party and the RINOs (the corporatist wing of the Republican party) could not give a crap about you.

      For all the identity politics of the Democrat party the vast majority of the party leaders really did not give a crap about you. Racial politics were only a means to an end.

      The Democrat Party has a huge corporatist wing also. What do you think Solyndra was about?

      You can keep backing charlatans like Nancy Pelosi who owns vinyards (like in Feudal times), a restaurant, a hotel and runs it with non-union labor. You can make common cause with know-nothings like Occupy and the NBPs. Either way you will suffer and you future will dim.

      You have to find another way.

  • Dan Knight

    Brilliant Daniel. Rarely is the immigration debate connected to the welfare state despite being two sides of the same coin. Or should I say two heads of the same multiheaded dragon? But I really want to complement you on this comment:

    “Some Republicans would like to modify it to help Mark Zuckerberg bring
    cheaper third world programmers and engineers to replace the Americans…”

    All too often the RINO’s will tell us we need more H1B’s, J1′s, and other visas for professionals. … Oh, wait, they mean the jobs I have to volunteer for; to train the quota quacks they hire; because I refuse to work for $109,000 a year – NO! I DEMAND A LOW WAGE!! I don’t want to work for more than $32k, if I work at all! Okay, sorry for the caps. But I really love the one where the Bleeeeep calls my boss and demands my body – by Name No Less!! – to go train their crack job after HR tells me I’m not qualified, no wait I’m not eligible, no wait they closed the position, no wait they mean they didn’t get my resume with all seventeen attachments the fourth time they said they didn’t get it the last time … And not just once!

    Sorry for the personal rant, but steam would be coming out of my ears. And it’s not just me: Friends, colleagues, co-workers, subordinates, and supervisors have all had similar problems. I’ve even met legal migrants who were fired when they acquired their citizenship!

    As for the ‘family’ relations migrants: Don’t get me started. I’ve got a friend whose parents are living in a basement in Egypt. They’re Copts, and they cannot get a visa for love or money or refugee status. Why? Probably because both of his parents are working professionals in their 50′s. His father is a 56 yo dentist, and his mother is a nurse my age. So… no visa for them. His father’s office was burned by vandals about two years ago, and he’s working in the basement to make ends meet. … Just one story of outrage among many. But we can take teenage cousins from Mexico with cocaine habits, and third wives from Nigeria who are Muslim, and so on and so on. …

  • physicsnut

    amazing – all they need to do is pronounce that something is “broken” – be it health care or immigration – and BANG they get to do whatever they want to ACTUALLY BREAK IT. A new twist on Self Fulfilling Prophecy.

    and look at what republicans are doing to Jeff Sessions – the only guy to stand up to the creeps:
    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/11/19/gop_senate_leadership_pushes_sessions_out_of_budget_chairmanship

  • kasandra

    Brilliant column! Besides changing the political balance by illegal means, he’s trying to change the demographic balance of the country. Hate to consider this a racial issue but, in fact, not only is he about to “legalize” 5,000,000 plus illegal aliens from south of the border but last week he agreed with China to take thousands of Chinese immigrants and has, all thru his regime, been moving in “DREAMERS”, Central American children, teens and parents, Sudanese, Somalians, and now ebola victims all from non-white areas of the world. Meanwhile, bagpipers from Canada, world renowned scientists from Switzerland and almost anyone from Europe is denied entry or visa extension. I don’t suppose there’s a pattern here that can be discerned.

  • John Pallyswine

    The deportation of American jobs began far before Obama and was not stopped by Bush1 and Bush2 and will not be stopped by Bush3.

    Meanswhile until 2008, the Senate and Congress comedy teams was in the control of the GOP.

    I can only wonder how many politicians on either side of the aisle of the theater of the absurd have properties in China.

  • redroksaz

    Newsflash…regarding taking someone else’s job, they are already living here. They are either working or not working. Whatever else you may imagine, one thing is certain. most of the people you are writing about already work. They will not be taking anybody’s job. Also, if you wish to complain about receiving welfare, I would like for you to specifically list the social welfare programs any unauthorized immigrant can legally qualify for? Need to quote me the specific law and how it reads. The programs available are almost non-existent. The requirements are very specific and very few qualify.

    There have been tens of millions working in the system for decades. They have received a paycheck and social security and medicare were taken out and matched by employers. This amounts to 15% total of the payroll. Because they have been working in the shadows they will never qualify for a penny they paid into the system. We are talking about hundreds of $billions. What has the federal government done with all this money? And America is complaining?

    What I challenge those who are complaining….once they come out of the shadows, they will create jobs for this economy. Will they find enough Americans (white folks) to work for them? I doubt it. Very extensive research by organizations such as the CATO Institute have clearly proven that immigrants do not reduce the possibility of Americans (white folk) finding a job. Just the opposite…their research has shown Americans (white folks) improve their skills.

    The same voices crying about jobs are the same voices that encouraged cheap products for the American consumer and thus were complicit when the American worker became Chinese. “Made in China” has made Wal-Mart king of retail. And the band keeps on playing.

  • http://www.hubpages.com/profiles/maven101 LarryConners

    Surely Obama is a conservative plant…He has done more to destroy the democratic party than all the efforts of our spineless GOP…

  • cops all up on donuts

    pffft and? so whats going to be done about it? ill save you the suspense= NOTHING. in the past decade ive voted and liberals/dems got exactly what they wanted. republicans didnt fight, republicans were too afraid. oh well, no belly aching now lol no more votes from me. in fact, im laughing at my country. with all the facts in it’s face about the problems we’ll face…you were all too dumb to do anything about it. have fun lol bubye america, nice knowin ya!

  • NoPasaran

    This is a boon to Scheissters

  • nimbii

    Obama’s Alinsky-styled fundamental change is to eliminate the white privileged America he detests and replace it with an infusion of legalized illegals to divide the country and ensure Dem reelection insurance. Whatever happens after that must be a transformation for the better.

  • Tim N

    Why take in a wealthy foreigner who can put money into the economy when you can take an illiterate, uneducated, money pit instead?