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	<title>Comments on: Obama’s War on Israel</title>
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		<title>By: George Frayer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Frayer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2014 03:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you imagine what would happen in the states if Obama actually declared war on Israel? Every Christian and every Jew would lash out in defiance, there would be no government left by the time it was over....War with Israel will never happen, i would hope even Obama as dumb as he is would know that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you imagine what would happen in the states if Obama actually declared war on Israel? Every Christian and every Jew would lash out in defiance, there would be no government left by the time it was over&#8230;.War with Israel will never happen, i would hope even Obama as dumb as he is would know that.</p>
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		<title>By: fisheye</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fisheye]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok we get it..Obama is black &amp; you can&#039;t stand even to the point of sacrificing Israel. You are no doubt on the Arab side just adding confusion and hate as an argument.  Just think a black man as President of the United States....what an honor!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok we get it..Obama is black &amp; you can&#8217;t stand even to the point of sacrificing Israel. You are no doubt on the Arab side just adding confusion and hate as an argument.  Just think a black man as President of the United States&#8230;.what an honor!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Bartlett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Bartlett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2014 02:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Benjamin Netanyahu knows about war. His brother was killed in the Raid of Entebbe. He himself nearly lost his life in a war. He is attempting to create peace. What is the answer for peace?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benjamin Netanyahu knows about war. His brother was killed in the Raid of Entebbe. He himself nearly lost his life in a war. He is attempting to create peace. What is the answer for peace?</p>
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		<title>By: HolylandIsraelTours</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/obamas-war-on-israel-2/comment-page-1/#comment-5369125</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HolylandIsraelTours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brilliant analysis. Israel will suffer as long as this Administration is in power, but ultimately it is America and the American public which will feel the brunt of Islam. Continue and America will end up just like Eurabia. It is not the first time in history that the superpowers have betrayed the Jewish people and turned against Israel. With God&#039;s help and our faith in our justice, we will overcome. Only the truth will set the world free. In God We Trust.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant analysis. Israel will suffer as long as this Administration is in power, but ultimately it is America and the American public which will feel the brunt of Islam. Continue and America will end up just like Eurabia. It is not the first time in history that the superpowers have betrayed the Jewish people and turned against Israel. With God&#8217;s help and our faith in our justice, we will overcome. Only the truth will set the world free. In God We Trust.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2014 05:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You call it murder, I call it warfare.&quot;
 
You can call it creative dancing for all I care; doesn&#039;t change the nature of the act.  The proposal, you&#039;ll recall, was for a head of government to seek out and kill his domestic political enemies en masse.  That&#039;s not &#039;warfare&#039; by anyone&#039;s concept of war.  That&#039;s how Stalin and Hitler dealt with their enemies.  If the only language you speak is winning and losing, then take a moment to reflect on where it got them.

As a rule, I find that the champions of brute force are those who lack the social skills, work ethic, or moral compass to accomplish the same ends by more difficult, but more lasting means.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You call it murder, I call it warfare.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can call it creative dancing for all I care; doesn&#8217;t change the nature of the act.  The proposal, you&#8217;ll recall, was for a head of government to seek out and kill his domestic political enemies en masse.  That&#8217;s not &#8216;warfare&#8217; by anyone&#8217;s concept of war.  That&#8217;s how Stalin and Hitler dealt with their enemies.  If the only language you speak is winning and losing, then take a moment to reflect on where it got them.</p>
<p>As a rule, I find that the champions of brute force are those who lack the social skills, work ethic, or moral compass to accomplish the same ends by more difficult, but more lasting means.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2014 02:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You call it murder, I call it warfare. So go ahead and keep applying those outdated principles where war is concerned and lets see where it gets you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You call it murder, I call it warfare. So go ahead and keep applying those outdated principles where war is concerned and lets see where it gets you.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Feb 2014 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Two wrongs don&#039;t make a right.&quot;


That&#039;s very true.  But being aware of the relationship helps us distinguish U.S. and UK motives from rationalizations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Two wrongs don&#8217;t make a right.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s very true.  But being aware of the relationship helps us distinguish U.S. and UK motives from rationalizations.</p>
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		<title>By: Trabald</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trabald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Britain&#039;s acceptance of the International court and subsequent actions are related but still separate issues from Mossadegh&#039;s election shenanigans.
Two wrongs don&#039;t make a right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Britain&#8217;s acceptance of the International court and subsequent actions are related but still separate issues from Mossadegh&#8217;s election shenanigans.<br />
Two wrongs don&#8217;t make a right.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernhard Rosenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernhard Rosenberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Feb 2014 00:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rabbi Dr. Bernhard Rosenberg SAYS President Obama You Have Some Nerve. ISRAEL Will Not LISTEN To You : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8c795KymA#t=63 

 

Trying to speak to Roosevelt behind closed doors didn&#039;t help the Jews of Europe, 6,000,000 Jews were slaughtered, murdered, burned, vanished! 

Speak Up! 

לנסות לדבר עם רוזוולט בדלתיים סגורים לא עזר ליהודי אירופה, 6,000,000 יהודים נטבחו, נרצחו, נשרפו, נעלמו! 

דברו בקול רם

&#039;Trying to speak to Roosevelt behind closed doors didn&#039;t help the Jews of Europe&#039;

Official in Prime Minister&#039;s Office reacts angrily to accusations that Israeli leadership harming strategic ties with Obama administration: Seventy-five years ago, the Jews tried to talk with Roosevelt, and that did not really help the Jews of Europe.&quot;

 

    

If Israel is destroyed another Holocaust will have happened. Sis million Jews perished while the world abandoned us. Among the murdered was my family.  American Jews speak out before it is too late.   
 Downplaying the Holocaust -- Sulzberger &amp; NY Times: Anna Blech at TEDxHunterCCS - YouTube In my book &quot;CONTEMPLATING THE HOLOCAUST&#039;&#039; I have entire chapter on this subject. Israel is in trouble and we listen to Obama and others who have interests OTHER than saving ISRAEL from destruction. . Let us stop being politically correct and protect . Israel.. RABBI DR. BERNHARD ROSENBERG]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rabbi Dr. Bernhard Rosenberg SAYS President Obama You Have Some Nerve. ISRAEL Will Not LISTEN To You : <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8c795KymA#t=63" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8c795KymA#t=63</a> </p>
<p>Trying to speak to Roosevelt behind closed doors didn&#8217;t help the Jews of Europe, 6,000,000 Jews were slaughtered, murdered, burned, vanished! </p>
<p>Speak Up! </p>
<p>לנסות לדבר עם רוזוולט בדלתיים סגורים לא עזר ליהודי אירופה, 6,000,000 יהודים נטבחו, נרצחו, נשרפו, נעלמו! </p>
<p>דברו בקול רם</p>
<p>&#8216;Trying to speak to Roosevelt behind closed doors didn&#8217;t help the Jews of Europe&#8217;</p>
<p>Official in Prime Minister&#8217;s Office reacts angrily to accusations that Israeli leadership harming strategic ties with Obama administration: Seventy-five years ago, the Jews tried to talk with Roosevelt, and that did not really help the Jews of Europe.&#8221;</p>
<p>If Israel is destroyed another Holocaust will have happened. Sis million Jews perished while the world abandoned us. Among the murdered was my family.  American Jews speak out before it is too late.<br />
 Downplaying the Holocaust &#8212; Sulzberger &amp; NY Times: Anna Blech at TEDxHunterCCS &#8211; YouTube In my book &#8220;CONTEMPLATING THE HOLOCAUST&#8221; I have entire chapter on this subject. Israel is in trouble and we listen to Obama and others who have interests OTHER than saving ISRAEL from destruction. . Let us stop being politically correct and protect . Israel.. RABBI DR. BERNHARD ROSENBERG</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2014 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Would have worked better than Mossadegh calling halt to lections and all the other crap he pulled.&quot;


Britain herself accepted the competence of the international court when it brought proceedings against Iran.  When the verdict did not run as expected, and the Brits acted in bad faith, on what basis would the Iranians have expected a better outcome by talking to the king consort?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Would have worked better than Mossadegh calling halt to lections and all the other crap he pulled.&#8221;</p>
<p>Britain herself accepted the competence of the international court when it brought proceedings against Iran.  When the verdict did not run as expected, and the Brits acted in bad faith, on what basis would the Iranians have expected a better outcome by talking to the king consort?</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Little Machine</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/obamas-war-on-israel-2/comment-page-1/#comment-5368256</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hard Little Machine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2014 15:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was watching Hamid Karzai telling the US to go get stuffed and I wondered why there&#039;s never been an Israeli leader to be that blunt and honest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was watching Hamid Karzai telling the US to go get stuffed and I wondered why there&#8217;s never been an Israeli leader to be that blunt and honest.</p>
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		<title>By: Trahald</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trahald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2014 13:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are two problems with royalties on raw resources. These would be information on value.  Information as economists see it and how to price royalties.
Clearly countries like Iraq, Iran, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia did not forecast future demand and world market prices might be.  Venezuela nationalized oil companies.  Saudi Arabia threatened to nationalize the oil companies following Venezuela&#039;s example.  At the time we could have rolled over them very easily. We chose not to occupy the oil fields. We renegotiated.  We had a contract which the Saudis had signed with their John Henry.  So we had  the right to tell them to fly a kite.
One must ask what the oil companies signing the contracts in the 1920s and 1930s really thought the price of crude would be decades down the line and if their forecasts were accurate.
Britain did not want to renegotiate their oil contract because they felt it would hurt their post WW2 economy which was coming back from the devastation of WW2.  It was a poor choice.  
It would have been a better choice for the Shah to have gone to London to have a few drinks with the king  consort and straighten things out. Would have worked better than Mossadegh calling halt to lections and all the other crap he pulled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two problems with royalties on raw resources. These would be information on value.  Information as economists see it and how to price royalties.<br />
Clearly countries like Iraq, Iran, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia did not forecast future demand and world market prices might be.  Venezuela nationalized oil companies.  Saudi Arabia threatened to nationalize the oil companies following Venezuela&#8217;s example.  At the time we could have rolled over them very easily. We chose not to occupy the oil fields. We renegotiated.  We had a contract which the Saudis had signed with their John Henry.  So we had  the right to tell them to fly a kite.<br />
One must ask what the oil companies signing the contracts in the 1920s and 1930s really thought the price of crude would be decades down the line and if their forecasts were accurate.<br />
Britain did not want to renegotiate their oil contract because they felt it would hurt their post WW2 economy which was coming back from the devastation of WW2.  It was a poor choice.<br />
It would have been a better choice for the Shah to have gone to London to have a few drinks with the king  consort and straighten things out. Would have worked better than Mossadegh calling halt to lections and all the other crap he pulled.</p>
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		<title>By: Nina Sage</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nina Sage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2014 03:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only politician who see&#039;s the Muslims for what they are is Allen West.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only politician who see&#8217;s the Muslims for what they are is Allen West.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2014 01:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;As for why we should discuss American shortcomings, well, that&#039;s a no-brainer&quot;



But your POV is based on the view that too much American power is bad, rather than simply saying there are bad uses of that power. It&#039;s an important distinction that colors your bottom line evaluations. It&#039;s a slightly rose-colored tint.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As for why we should discuss American shortcomings, well, that&#8217;s a no-brainer&#8221;</p>
<p>But your POV is based on the view that too much American power is bad, rather than simply saying there are bad uses of that power. It&#8217;s an important distinction that colors your bottom line evaluations. It&#8217;s a slightly rose-colored tint.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2014 01:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I don&#039;t think anyone suggested that it was. But having just established international organizations for settling such disputes, so that we wouldn&#039;t have to resort to naked power again, it turns out that as soon as we lost in those institutions, the naked force was back in play.&quot;

That&#039;s kind of where I thought this would lead. But even today those organizations are not necessarily equipped to deliver the kind of justice you envision on a reliable basis. You&#039;re going to have to come up with something more convincing to show that we were reckless and clearly had our risk calculations wrong.

&quot;It&#039;s also worth considering that the exploitation colonial model was unsustainable...&quot;

You need to be more specific. A &quot;colonial model&quot; is not always bad. Exploitation is not always bad. I think you&#039;re using weasel words to avoid making a clearer case that we were the &quot;bad guys&quot; on the scene.

And even if there was a model we wanted to move away from (and there was, but you put it far too simply) it doesn&#039;t mean that there are good and bad ways to manage those transitions.

&quot;...and that nationalization or something very like it was going to have to happen if we were going to progress to a more interdependent economic model.&quot;

I think that is roughly accurate, but that again doesn&#039;t justify your assertions that we got our calculations wrong in the actual events.

&quot;The day was gone when the sullen natives would just sit quietly by while the Europeans pumped their oil, dug up their copper and cobalt, etc.&quot;



Maybe if the &quot;sullen natives&quot; weren&#039;t constantly told they were and are victims by trading with us as they ramped up their skills and industrial development, diplomatic solutions would be easier to come up with in the end before the violence starts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t think anyone suggested that it was. But having just established international organizations for settling such disputes, so that we wouldn&#8217;t have to resort to naked power again, it turns out that as soon as we lost in those institutions, the naked force was back in play.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s kind of where I thought this would lead. But even today those organizations are not necessarily equipped to deliver the kind of justice you envision on a reliable basis. You&#8217;re going to have to come up with something more convincing to show that we were reckless and clearly had our risk calculations wrong.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s also worth considering that the exploitation colonial model was unsustainable&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>You need to be more specific. A &#8220;colonial model&#8221; is not always bad. Exploitation is not always bad. I think you&#8217;re using weasel words to avoid making a clearer case that we were the &#8220;bad guys&#8221; on the scene.</p>
<p>And even if there was a model we wanted to move away from (and there was, but you put it far too simply) it doesn&#8217;t mean that there are good and bad ways to manage those transitions.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;and that nationalization or something very like it was going to have to happen if we were going to progress to a more interdependent economic model.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that is roughly accurate, but that again doesn&#8217;t justify your assertions that we got our calculations wrong in the actual events.</p>
<p>&#8220;The day was gone when the sullen natives would just sit quietly by while the Europeans pumped their oil, dug up their copper and cobalt, etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe if the &#8220;sullen natives&#8221; weren&#8217;t constantly told they were and are victims by trading with us as they ramped up their skills and industrial development, diplomatic solutions would be easier to come up with in the end before the violence starts.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2014 01:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Do I understand by your post that you consider &#039;mass murder&#039; to still be an exaggerated characterization? &quot;

No.

&quot;Keeping in mind that OP suggested the simultaneous killing of an entire class of people, I rather thought I was bending over backwards here.&quot;



It was a class based on enemy status, not some arbitrary bigotry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do I understand by your post that you consider &#8216;mass murder&#8217; to still be an exaggerated characterization? &#8221;</p>
<p>No.</p>
<p>&#8220;Keeping in mind that OP suggested the simultaneous killing of an entire class of people, I rather thought I was bending over backwards here.&#8221;</p>
<p>It was a class based on enemy status, not some arbitrary bigotry.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2014 00:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;What was going on in Iran and elsewhere was not trivial.&quot;
 
I don&#039;t think anyone suggested that it was.  But having just established international organizations for settling such disputes, so that we wouldn&#039;t have to resort to naked power again, it turns out that as soon as we lost in those institutions, the naked force was back in play.

It&#039;s also worth considering that the exploitation colonial model was unsustainable, and that nationalization or something very like it was going to have to happen if we were going to progress to a more interdependent economic model.  The day was gone when the sullen natives would just sit quietly by while the Europeans pumped their oil, dug up their copper and cobalt, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What was going on in Iran and elsewhere was not trivial.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone suggested that it was.  But having just established international organizations for settling such disputes, so that we wouldn&#8217;t have to resort to naked power again, it turns out that as soon as we lost in those institutions, the naked force was back in play.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also worth considering that the exploitation colonial model was unsustainable, and that nationalization or something very like it was going to have to happen if we were going to progress to a more interdependent economic model.  The day was gone when the sullen natives would just sit quietly by while the Europeans pumped their oil, dug up their copper and cobalt, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2014 23:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You seem to have left out some pertinent issues. Most notably, the primary source of &#039;instability&#039; in Iran at the time was Britain&#039;s full-on economic war being waged in the wake of the UK&#039;s loss of its international case against Iran. One might also stop and consider that if Iran&#039;s status as a member of the one bloc or the other were paramount, then antagonizing them over the status of an oil company seems a bit shortsighted, no?&quot;


So Iran could have been &quot;pro capitalism&quot; and align with us if we were nice to them about nationalizing their oil?


In theory it is possible, but that would have required some pretty amazing diplomacy. But the other thing is that even if they were &quot;in our camp&quot; with nationalized oil, that still presents a problem in terms of setting precedents.


The central dispute of the Cold War (aside from the intensely polarized factions) was how sovereigns would deal with private property rights. Stalin could also be seen as a power hungry tyrant, but still his fight was nominally about the &quot;fairness&quot; of communism, or state control over capital.


What was going on in Iran and elsewhere was not trivial.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You seem to have left out some pertinent issues. Most notably, the primary source of &#8216;instability&#8217; in Iran at the time was Britain&#8217;s full-on economic war being waged in the wake of the UK&#8217;s loss of its international case against Iran. One might also stop and consider that if Iran&#8217;s status as a member of the one bloc or the other were paramount, then antagonizing them over the status of an oil company seems a bit shortsighted, no?&#8221;</p>
<p>So Iran could have been &#8220;pro capitalism&#8221; and align with us if we were nice to them about nationalizing their oil?</p>
<p>In theory it is possible, but that would have required some pretty amazing diplomacy. But the other thing is that even if they were &#8220;in our camp&#8221; with nationalized oil, that still presents a problem in terms of setting precedents.</p>
<p>The central dispute of the Cold War (aside from the intensely polarized factions) was how sovereigns would deal with private property rights. Stalin could also be seen as a power hungry tyrant, but still his fight was nominally about the &#8220;fairness&#8221; of communism, or state control over capital.</p>
<p>What was going on in Iran and elsewhere was not trivial.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2014 23:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do I understand by your post that you consider &#039;mass murder&#039; to still be an exaggerated characterization?  Keeping in mind that OP suggested the simultaneous killing of an entire class of people, I rather thought I was bending over backwards here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do I understand by your post that you consider &#8216;mass murder&#8217; to still be an exaggerated characterization?  Keeping in mind that OP suggested the simultaneous killing of an entire class of people, I rather thought I was bending over backwards here.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2014 23:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems unnecessarily inflammatory to use exaggerated characterizations, even if you have some reasonable basis for your positions.


If that is your objective, to inflame feelings, then you&#039;re entitled to do that. It just goes against what I think you want to suggest we as Americans should do in the international community even with our worst enemies, which is to bend over backwards to understand everything they say and do as &quot;rational&quot; and to always assume the best from them no matter what conflicting evidence we see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems unnecessarily inflammatory to use exaggerated characterizations, even if you have some reasonable basis for your positions.</p>
<p>If that is your objective, to inflame feelings, then you&#8217;re entitled to do that. It just goes against what I think you want to suggest we as Americans should do in the international community even with our worst enemies, which is to bend over backwards to understand everything they say and do as &#8220;rational&#8221; and to always assume the best from them no matter what conflicting evidence we see.</p>
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