One Million Ceasefires

Exiled-Hamas-leader-Khaled-Meshaal-visits-Gaza_5_1If you like cease-fires, then this is a great time to be alive. Those Israelis who weren’t shot in the head by Hamas terrorists (whom Andrew Sullivan insists weren’t real Hamas terrorist, trading in his obsession with Sarah Palin’s rogue pregnancy for a new conspiracy theory) or killed by a Hamas rocket, encounter almost as many cease-fires in a given day as terrorist attacks.

A cease-fire comes along every few minutes and it can last anywhere from a minute to an hour to a few hours until Hamas once again begins firing rockets or swarming through tunnels to attack Israelis.

“War, what is it good for?” The Temptations sang. The obvious answer is that wars done right keep you from having to keep fighting.

But cease-fires with Hamas aren’t good for that or anything else.

Hamas violates its own cease-fires. It declares cease-fires and then denies that it declared them. It seems to have almost as many positions on cease-fires as John Kerry does on Iraq.

Israel’s unilateral cease-fires with Hamas are as worthless as its unilateral withdrawal from Gaza which allowed Hamas to take over the area. The cease-fires don’t stop the fighting. They don’t bring an end to the violence.

That’s what war is for.

But John Kerry is almost as obsessed with cease-fires as he is with finding a toupee that stays put during intense windsurfing sessions. The complete uselessness of the cease-fires hasn’t stopped the completely useless top diplomat from constantly proposing new ones.

Kerry defended his insistence on enrolling Israel in the Ceasefire-of-the-Minute club by claiming that enough worthless cease-fires could eventually be cashed in for one really big cease-fire.

Obama’s economic policy piled up huge amounts of debt on the theory that enough debt would eventually translate into wealth. The theory of a million worthless cease-fires adding up to peace is that same economic theory applied to the equally fraudulent realm of international diplomacy.

“The momentum generated by these short-term cease-fires is the best way to achieve a sustainable cease-fire,” Kerry said.

So far the only momentum is coming from Hamas rockets falling on Israel every time there’s a cease-fire. But maybe that’s the momentum that John Kerry has in mind. If enough rockets fall on Israel, maybe it will finally give up on trying to contain Hamas and settle on Qatar’s terms.

In Hard Choices, a photo of deposed Egyptian leader Mohammed Morsi gazing lovingly into Hillary Clinton’s eyes is captioned with the false claim that “Morsi helped me negotiate a cease-fire between Israel & Hamas that holds to this day.“

By “to this day” she probably meant the last day someone bought a copy of Hard Choices; piles of which are being used as doorstops at every Costco in the country. But even so the cease-fire that the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt negotiated with the Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza didn’t hold up.

The rocket attacks on Israel never stopped. Obama, Kerry and Clinton just pretended that they did. Desperate to get someone in Washington D.C. to notice their homicidal mania, Gaza even fired rockets during Obama’s visit. The target was Sderot, the Israeli city that Obama had visited back in 2008 before he learned how to lower the oceans, amnesty the illegals and stab Israel in the back.

“The first job of any nation state is to protect its citizens,” Obama told the residents of the city that has come to be known as the nation’s bomb shelter. “If somebody was sending rockets into my house where my two daughters sleep at night, I’m going to do everything in my power to stop that. And I would expect Israelis to do the same thing.”

But in 2013, Obama skipped Sderot. He paid no attention to the terrorists firing rockets at Sderot, even though they had dubbed him a “Roman Dog”. Instead he visited the leader of the PLO.

Meanwhile everyone went on pretending that the cease-fire still held. Only the Israelis had trouble playing along because were still being shelled.

Kerry’s spokeswoman Jen Psaki explained that,”Our focus is now is on short term cease-fires than can be built on each other.”

Any construction worker will tell you that putting one fragile and unstable object on top of another an infinite amount of times will not build anything livable, but the party of “You Didn’t Build That” doesn’t seem to know how to build things, whether it’s economies or cease-fires.

Psaki’s rhetoric is part of a larger shift in diplomatic expectations about the peace process.

Israel is expected to accept a million cease-fires, no matter how worthless, because a cease-fire is an innately good thing, regardless of whether it’s actually good for anything. If war is always bad, then cease-fires are always good. It doesn’t matter if winning a war actually leads to peace while cease-fires just lead to more war.

The devolution of peacenik idealism from a lasting peace to a cease-fire that lasts as long as it takes a bunch of men from Beit Hanoun to lug their rocket from the mosque to a UNRWA school is an adaptation to a new reality.

The idealism of diplomats and activists is tagging along after the new Hamas reality. The temporary cease-fire in which Hamas is allowed to kill Israelis, but Israel isn’t allowed to kill the terrorists killing its people is the new ideal.

The cease-fire is just the peace process stripped naked. It works exactly the same way.

Terrorists attack Israel. Israel fights back. The photogs snap staged photos of Israeli atrocities. The diplomats show up and demand that Israel make concessions to the terrorists in exchange for not being shot at. The concessions are made and the terrorists go on shooting anyway.

It’s the same old story, without any of the empty talk of “Peace in Our Time.” There’s no promise of co-existence. No new Middle East. Just Lucy in a Burka holding out an exploding football.

Secretary of State John Kerry promises that enough cease-fires will add up to a sustainable cease-fire. But Kerry’s sustainable cease-fire is supposed to be achieved by rewarding Hamas for breaking all the other cease-fires with a raft of new concessions.

Trying to obtain a sustainable cease-fire by rewarding terrorists who break cease-fires is like going trillions into debt to get rich.

Kerry’s sustainable cease-fire can’t exist because he’s paying the terrorists breaking it. Psaki’s giant pile of cease-fires, one of top of another, is just a game of diplomatic Jenga. Everyone from the UN Secretary General to Hillary Clinton keeps shouting for an immediate cease-fire. But what is the cease-fire supposed to accomplish when the problem is terrorism?

As miserably defeatist as this administration has been, it still hasn’t declared a cease-fire with Al Qaeda, no matter how many civilians, including children, die in the process.

A cease-fire is even more pointless than a peace process. At least a peace process has a goal. A cease-fire is a temporary interruption in hostilities. It’s not an end to war. Instead the rockets keep falling year after year in the war that never ends.

A million cease-fires solve nothing.

We don’t have a cease-fire with Al Qaeda. Instead Obama keeps promising to defeat Al Qaeda. Doesn’t Israel deserve to win its own war on terror?

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  • Michael Garfinkel

    I find it remarkable that CNN and much of the media persist in its biased coverage against Israel, which is, after all, a Western democracy defending itself against terrorism, their advocacy for useless ceasefires not withstanding.

    It is clear the tragedy in Gaza is the consequence of the cynical and savage agression of Hamas, in large measure directed against its own people.

    Unlike many observers, I don’t believe that the editors of CNN,, are unaware of this.

    Even if one accepts the premise that anti-semitism informs their bias, it is disconcerting that the obvious solution – the destruction of Hamas and the demilitarization of Gaza, is ignored.

    If Hamas lives to fight another day, the suffering of the Gazans will continue in perpetuity – and this is a fact that is quite apparent.

    So one wonders – is the moral rot, in the media and in the broader culture, so extensive that they are as unmoved by the carnage in Gaza as they have been in Syria.

    It appears so.

    • truebearing


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      • Habbgun

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    • emptorpreempted

      I have seen the argument openly made on CNN, which went unchallenged, that Israel can’t claim self-defense, because the Gaza Arabs and Hamas have legitimate grievances against Israel that (and this part of course was left implicit) give them the right to attack Israeli civilians. This is the evil and barbarity to which CNN has sunk.

      • Michael Garfinkel

        This is “the Jews have it coming” defense.

        Yes, this is awful, but not surprising.

        • Americana

          This is true. When the Israelis pulled out in 2006. They still manned the checkpoints. You cannot go to a the West Bank without going through a checkpoint. It is intrusive and against human rights. Sure, if there are no check points, a few suicide bombers might get through and murder dozens of innocent people in a shopping malls or pizzarias, but this is the price we pay for an open and fair society.

          The checkpoint were just as bad between the Sinai and Gaza. The JEWS turned them over to Egypt after a few months, but that is just changing the guard. The Gazans are not free so they have a right t fight back and indiscriminately shell civilian areas of Israel.

          • Michael Garfinkel

            This is the Hamas – Osama Bin Laden defense.
            Just as in your remarks, it goes like this:

            1. Our grievances justify the hijacking of planes and the flying of them into the WTC, killing as many Americans as possible.

            2. Grievances entitle us to proceed in ways which constitute the very definition of war crimes, like “indiscriminately shell civilian areas of Israel.”

            Since you are shameless enough to espouse this view, it is clear that you and the Al-Queda – Hamas criminals share the same moral and ethical deficits

            ” a few suicide bombers might get through and murder dozens of innocent people in a shopping malls or pizzarias, but this is the price we pay for an open and fair society.”

            These are your words, verbatim, and they constitute, inadvertantly, the “arrogant, blithering idiot defense.”

            You’ll be pleased to know this is going around, particularly at CNN.

            They, and you, are unworthy of further comment..

          • Americana

            Just so it’s clear, Michal, that is NOT one of my posts. That post is by an impersonator and so the name appears in GREY.

            My posting name has been registered and as such, my posts appear under a RED NAME. I don’t agree w/that fakdroids points in any way.

          • Judahlevi

            Ah, so the truth comes out. It is OK to “indiscriminately” shell Jews but not OK for Israel to kill Arabs. In other words, Jews deserve to die, Arabs don’t.

            A true anti-Semite.

          • truebearing

            Her stupidity out ran her deception. It was inevitable that sooner or later the fool who suggested “the Jews injected themselves into Palestine” would out herself as anti-semitic on a sociopathic level. She hasn’t hounded FPM with ten thousand repetitive posts for no reason.

          • Americana

            Wow, and here’s little old you trying to further add umpteen millions of gallons of Saudi/Israeli crude to the flames of the FPM propaganda pyre. Lordy, but you’re a cocky son of a gun!

            Au contraire, truebs, I think it’s that your stupidity and hutzpah finally outstripped your ability to carry off the deception. Interesting that you’d try this, and more interesting yet, that you not only lay the grounds for the initial claim but that you attempt to construct more and more of a superstructure around your initial claims. Mossad agent, you are not.

          • Americana

            Just so you know, Judah, but that is NOT one of my posts. There is a fakdroid ‘Americana’ who’s writing outrageous posts in order to defame me. My posts appear w/my BB handle in RED. Some of my older posts will appear w/the name in GREY since I hadn’t yet registered the name. Any posts w/the name in GREY over the past two days is by the FAKDROID impersonator.

          • truebearing

            Breaking down your depraved position — having checkpoints is morally more repugnant than suicide bombers murdering dozens of innocent people. Intrusiveness is worse than murder in your eyes. Terrorism is less destructive to an “open and fair society” than checking people for bombs…more fair for whom? Certainly not the victims, or the majority.

            You just defended terroristic mass murder because it caused Palestinians some inconvenience, when all the Palestinians have to do to get rid of the checkpoints is get rid of Hamas and stop the terrorism. You’re sick. Warped. Deranged. And now you have exposed yourself thoroughly as an apologist for terrorism, not to mention an idiot incapable of rational thought.

            Have you finally lost your mind entirely, or are you being mocked by an imposter? For your sake, it better be the latter.

          • Americana

            Wow, the fact you are actually pretending to believe that’s MY POST is absolutely such a CLASSIC FIFTH COLUMNIST FALSE FLAG BS attempt, I’m amazed at the audacity w/which you’re trying to carry if off.

            By doing this, you’ve exposed yourself thoroughly as the most contemptible **fifth rate** FILTH COLUMNIST that’s ever tried to work the scene here at FPM. It’s a very nice, very convincing touch though, for you to add the whole disclaimer (“Have you finally lost your mind entirely, or are you being mocked by an impostor?”). Now that is a classic, though not highly convincing touch.


            CHECKPOINTS are at every airport too.

            Any guess as to why????

            I bet there’s a CHECKPOINT at the entrance to the BBC or entering the United Kaliphate.

          • Flowerknife_us

            Can you pass into Mexico or Canada without going through a check point?

            You read like someone who would not mind it one bit if a suicide Bomber visited a Pizza Shop you and your friends and Family are in some day.

            No doubt your the product of a truly “liberal Education”.

            I have not heard a kind word spoken about Israel come from either the West Bank or Gaza for the last 40 years.
            I have heard an almost daily barrage of hateful, genocidal rhetoric come from them for 40 years. Not to mention any number of Military actions taken by these same people or those who are like minded.

            There is no leader that can ever come from either location that can ever sign a treaty with Israel without forfeiting their life before the Ink even drys .

            Why suffer yourself so over a people who will only be vaporized by their own kind as soon as Iran gets around to it.

          • Americana

            Flowerknife, yo’re responding to a fakdroid ‘Americana.’ Please note that fact in your responses to any fake ‘Americana’ whose name is in GREY. I don’t want to be confused w/that person.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            This is lovely:

            Americana Michael Garfinkel • 12 hours ago: “The Gazans are not free so they have a right t fight back and indiscriminately shell civilian areas of Israel.”

            If only they had more better weapons and rocket guidance. That’s the kind of freedom that gets people like you excited.

            You know, I’m not so free either. Where can I get a Howitzer? Ebay seems to be a little light in the category.

          • Americana

            Just FYI, objectivefactsmatter, but your response here is directed at a FAKE ‘Americana.’ Fake ‘Americana’ posts will appear under a GREY name and this fifth columnist false flag BS was undertaken about a day ago… So any post in grey within the past 2 days is FAKE.

          • Hank Rearden

            This is a joke, right?

          • Americana

            Yes, it is a joke. It’s a joke by another FPM poster. MY posts will appear under a RED name because I’m registered as the REAL ‘Americana.’ The fake will always have their fake name appear in GREY.

          • Americana

            Ah, so this is the post that truebearing was trying to sell to FPMers as being the REAL ‘Americana.’

            Yes, this is an idiotic post. I guess that’s why the real ‘American’ didn’t write it.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      I find it remarkable that CNN and much of the media persist in biased coverage against Israel, which is, after all, a Western democracy defending itself against terrorism – the media’s advocacy for questionable ceasefires not withstanding.

      Is firing thousands of rockets into Israel for weeks on end each individual acts of terrorism or is it a war that employs coordinated “total war” tactics that is being misconstrued as somehow being terrorism? Did famous terrorists like Timothy McVeigh, the Unabomber, Bill Ayers, or Bernadine Dohrn also fire thousands of rockets in coordinated fashion at their victims? I don’t believe.

      Apparently, you have been misled to believe what is actually jihad, which is a holy war waged by all Muslims both violently and non-violently against all infidels to ultimately make Islam supreme throughout the world, is somehow terrorism perpetrated exclusively by Muslim extremists, i.e., Hamas. Thus, in order to win, we must defeat terrorism and the terrorists.

      However, it’s not terrorism and Muslim terrorists that are the problem here. It’s jihad instead, and the violent varieties of jihad, as opposed to the much more prevalent varieties of non-violent jihad, employs primarily “total war” tactics according to the dictates of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law.

      Let me frame the issue correctly for you: The Islamic totalitarian world is waging jihad (holy war) against not only the infidels in Israel, but also against all infidels and all infidel states around the world to ultimately make Islam supreme throughout the world. Meanwhile, it will take the collective action of all infidels and all infidel states acting together in unison as one to defeat their jihad.

      It is clear the tragedy in Gaza is the consequence of the cynical and savage agression of Hamas, in large measure directed against its own people.

      Actually, jihad, as opposed to terrorism, which in all societies is the province of only radicals and extremists, involves the entire Islamic community, including the women and children. As waging jihad in one form or another, either through violence or via non-violently, is a fundamental holy obligation incumbent upon all Muslims in the world, including women and children, and serving as human shields is one of the primary ways that Muslim women and children participate in waging jihad and simultaneously fulfil their fundamental holy obligation to wage jihad at the same time. As Islam is a very draconian form of totalitarianism that summarily executes all non-conformers similar to the way the old Communist Soviet Union sent all non-conformers to the Soviet gulags.

      the destruction of Hamas and the demilitarization of Gaza, is ignored.

      Destroy Hamas? Why? Just to have another violent jihadist proxy inevitably rise up to take its place, and for Israel to demilitarize Gaza, it would take the total re-occupation and the subsequent administration of Gaza by Israel. Does Israel really want to do that?

      Meanwhile, even if Israel chose to do that it would still not end the perpetual jihad being waged against it and, indeed, being waged against all infidels and all infidel states around the world by the Islamic totalitarian world to ultimately make Islam supreme. I’m afraid the problem is a little more extensive and more complicated than just that.

      If Hamas lives to fight another day, the suffering of the Gazans will continue in perpetuity – and this is a fact that is quite apparent.

      Uhm…all Gazans are jihadists in one form or another per the dictates of Islam. While Hamas may be their military wing, they are no less or no more radical or extreme than your average every day Gazan citizen who chooses to wage jihad via non-violent means. Indeed, all Muslims in the world are jihadists in one form or another. You have just been misled and duped by reading writers like this one that have been misrepresenting the realities of Islam for years.

      that they are as unmoved by the carnage in Gaza as they have been in Syria.

      With the exception of the Christian infidels being slaughtered in mass in Syria, what is happening in Syria, i.e., Muslims killing other Muslims, is wonderful for the infidel world and very tragic indeed for the Islamic totalitarian world. As a matter of fact, we should look for more cracks and fissures within the Islamic totalitarian world to exploit to our advantage in the same manner.

      • Michael Garfinkel

        I don’t subscribe to the view that every Muslim is a “Jihadist” enemy, and I find repugnant your assertion that “Muslims killing Muslims” is cause for celebration.

        I think you overstate the case.

        Still, you make some very good points, and I share many of your views.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          I don’t subscribe to the view that every Muslim is a “Jihadist” enemy

          The Noble Koran is published in Saudi Arabia by the “King Fahd Complex for the Printing of the Holy Qur’an,” Madinah, K.S.A. and is the most widely distributed Koran in the world. On page 39 it has the following to say about jihad:

          “Al-Jihad (holy fighting) in Allah’s Cause (with full force of numbers and weaponry) is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars (on which it stands). Allah’s Word is made superior, (His Word being Lailaha illallah which means none has the right to be worshipped but Allah), and His Religion (Islam) is propagated. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and the Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honour is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim, and he who tries to escape from this duty, or does not in his innermost heart wish to fulfil this duty, dies with one of the qualities of a hypocrite.”

          Now the words of the Koran are accepted by all Muslims to be the direct verbatim text of Allah as dictated to Muhammad by the archangel Gabriel. In other words, the holy texts of the Koran are believed to be divine because they emanate directly from Allah and as such those words are not only immutable, but they must also be taken and followed only in the strictest sense. Indeed, it is for this primary reason alone why it is impossible for Islam to ever be reformed.

          Thus when you say, “I don’t subscribe to the view that every Muslim is a “Jihadist” enemy,” you are only demonstrating that you don’t have a clue about what you are talking about. Yet, for someone who is obviously clueless, you have very strong opinions based on what? Not much of anything other than your own naive intuition.

          and I find repugnant your assertion that “Muslims killing Muslims” is cause for celebration.

          While I never said it was a cause for celebration, it is, indeed, far better than the alternative, which is Muslims killing infidels. Apparently, when reality is unpleasant for you in some way, you react emotionally by emoting rather than rationalizing. Indeed, that’s what all liberals do as well. Apparently, you are one of them. Okay.

          I think you overstate the case.

          According to whom? You…a complete and utter neophyte who doesn’t have the first clue, but nonetheless is filled with strong opinions based on nothing but naïve nonsense. Why am I not impressed with your opinions, which I have more than demonstrated to be bogus, by the way?

          Still, you make some very good points, and I share many of your views.

          No you don’t. You just demonstrated that you didn’t. Apparently, you’re also very confused.

          • Michael Garfinkel

            I am aware of the presciptions of the Koran, just as I am fully aware of the threat Islam poses.

            I have life-long friends who served this country in the military who are Muslim.

            They are decent and loyal Americans.
            So, let me say, again – not every Muslim is a Jihadist enemy.

            You’ve learned to cut-and-paste, now you need to:

            a) learn to argue your case without resorting to insults.
            b) try to get your doctrinaire head out of your A__.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            I am aware of the presciptions of the Koran, just as I am fully aware of the threat Islam poses to the world.

            I have life-long friends who served this country in the military who are Muslim.

            They are decent and loyal Americans.
            So, let me say, again – not every Muslim is a Jihadist enemy.

            No you are not aware. In fact, you don’t have the first fricking clue about the Koran or anything else with respect to Islam. Plus, you argue exactly like a third rate delusional liberal, because you obviously are a third rate delusional liberal. Not only that, but you are also totally oblivious with respect to the actual threat involved as well.

            Furthermore, you don’t have any lifelong Muslim friends who served this country in the US military? How do I know that? Simple, because it is blasphemous for Muslims to be friends with infidels like you and me, and blasphemy in Islam, like apostasy as well, is a capital offense.

            In fact, blasphemy and apostasy are Islam’s twin curses. Indeed, it is Islam’s dual enforcement mechanisms. Fail either one of those two tests, and it is curtains for all Muslims that fail.

            In other words, Islam is far more an extremely draconian form of totalitarianism than it is just a so-called religion. Thus, you obviously made that entire ludicrous story of yours up to support your idiotic contention that not all Muslims are jihadists, which is absolutely absurd and in which also reveals at the same time that you are utterly oblivious and incredibly dumb at the same time.

            By the way, genius, the Western definition of a so-called moderate Muslim in which you obviously subscribe, in Islam is the definition of a blasphemous apostate that must be executed per the dictates of Islam.

            Thus, if you were aware of the threats emanating from Islam as you falsely claim, you would know that already, but you obviously are not aware. As a matter of fact, you are so utterly clueless that you made the entire story up that you have lifelong Muslim buddies that served in the US military who are just like everyone else. Yeah right and forgive me for not being stupid and naïve enough to believe that pure utter nonsense.

            By the way, you moonbat, Muslims never ever migrate to the infidel world to assimilate and integrate, because that would require them to morph into infidels, and morphing into infidels for Muslims would be a supreme act of blasphemy, and correct me if I’m wrong, but the last time I checked, blasphemy in Islam is a capital offense.

            Hence, Muslims migrate to the infidel world primarily for the purposes of infiltrating our societies and for eventual demographic conquest. Indeed, it’s one of the most prevalent forms of non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad manifesting on the world stage today.

            In fact, out of the millions of Muslims that have migrated to the infidel world since in the 1970s, you can’t point to even one group of Muslim immigrants anywhere in the world that have ever actually assimilated and integrated and then matriculated into becoming contributing and productive members of their host infidel societies. Yet, we are supposed to be dumb enough to believe that you were somehow lifelong friends with Muslims serving in the US military. Yeah right. Give me a fricking break you unhinged moron.

            Indeed, the more you post, the more you reveal that you are utterly clueless. Yet, you have your ludicrous opinions, based on nothing but pure utter naivety and idiotic assumptions.

            As a matter of fact, you remind me very much of GWB who based his ill-fated “War on Terror” on the idiotic assumptions that Muslims are just like us infidels in that they have all the same wants, desires, hopes, and aspirations that we all share. However, in his case that proved to be a very ludicrous assumption with very tragic consequences because Muslims don’t have all the same wants, desires, hopes, and aspirations that we all share, since they are the products of a completely alien civilization from our own. In fact, all Muslims are the slaves of Allah and the ones that disobey his commands are summarily executed.

            You’ve learned to cut-and-paste, now you need to:
            a) learn to argue your case without resorting to insults.
            b) try to get your doctrinaire head out of your A__.

            Get lost you mentally incompetent flake. You’re nothing but complete waste of my time! Lifelong Muslim friends serving in the US military? Yeah right! Get out of here! What an idiot!

          • Michael Garfinkel

            Take your meds, and if and when you calm down, you may be able to contribute to the discussion.

            Until then, be advised that I will not respond to your comments, which have degenerated into rants.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            I don’t blame you. If I got caught with my pants down around my ankles and with my hand in the till the same way you just did, I wouldn’t want to respond anymore either. Indeed, if I were you, I’d change my posting name after than one. Man…that’s pretty embarrassing if you don’t mind me saying so myself.

          • IslamDownpressesHumanity

            Yes take your toys and go home to mommy for a good pout.

          • Drakken

            Those very same muslims are irrelevant in the grand scheme of all things Jihad. Every Jihadist is a muslim.

        • bigjulie

          Hardly overstating the case! OYM is clearly recognizing that there will be no peace for anyone until Islam indicates that it has had its “Great Enlightenment”, i.e. not everyone has any desire to become a Muslim and that conversions coerced by beheadings, torture, and nearly endless killing of non-compliants are simply butt-covering to protect one’s head, but not sincere belief. While you may not subscribe to the view that “every Muslim is a Jihadist”, the fact of the matter is that they are and they are because Islam COMPELS them to be so!
          It is obvious that Islam only understands massive, obscenely brutal force as the ultimate “persuasive argument” to get others to see things their way. Could it therefore be used on them to cause a deep understanding of the consequences of not becoming “enlightened” to the ways of those on the planet with no desire to become Muslims? I believe it can, if administered in 10 to 20 megaton “revelations”, starting in, say, Mecca.
          The Muslims of Pakistan already have nuclear weapons and, thanks to Muslim President Barky, the Muslims in Iran will also have them. Does anyone honestly believe that they will not use them to attempt to persuade the rest of us that a world-wide caliphate is “just what Allah ordered”
          If you don’t believe that, would you be interested in a slightly used toll bridge in San Francisco with good income?

        • IslamDownpressesHumanity

          Maybe you can cry to the Christians being slaughtered and raped in Syria, Iraq and Nigeria, or the Buddhists being blown up in Thailand. I’m sure they’ll be very sympathetic to your whining.

          • Michael Garfinkel

            Another idiot weighs in.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            You need to go take a look in a mirror moonbat, that is if you can find one big enough!

          • IslamDownpressesHumanity

            Make your next family vacation a trip to any islamic-nazi state and make sure to criticise pisslam publicly — after all you have nothing to fear all those good muslimes will just come running out of the woodwork to embrace your frank criticitism of islam. Get bent.

        • Americana

          I agree w/your points above. You’ll find that ObamaYoMama will not tolerate your differentiating one Muslim from another though viz their degree of ‘jihadiness.’

          • Michael Garfinkel

            I find such views deeply offensive.

  • truebearing

    At one time rapid fire weapons were seen as the solution to winning a war. Now Obama would have us believe the solution is rapid cease-fire. If Israel was losing though, Obama would be for “letting them fight it out.”

    One reason for the incessant cease-fires is simple: every time one is called, Hamas can re-group, reload, and feed the media photos of citizens that their own guys killed because the Israelis didn’t kill enough children to meet the minimum propaganda requirements.

    Another reason is that every time a cease-fire is called, someone can claim Israel violated it. The more cease-fires, the more violations. As in advertising, repetition is everything. Obama is doing his best to make Israel the bad guys. If Israel refuses a cease-fire, or supposedly violates one, the propaganda favors Hamas, who no one expects to have any moral decency anyway. If Obama and the Left can create the illusion of a moral equivalency, the balance tips in favor of Hamas because the media, the UN, and Obama are championing the terrorists.

    One more reason for the cease-fires is simply to break up any Israeli momentum. Once Israel gets on a roll, Hamas is in trouble. Obama is doing all he can to facilitate the evil of his fellow Muslims by running interference.

    • Sherrod

      Maybe Israel should pretend they are losing. Maybe they could inflate their casualty figures, military and civilian. Maybe they could put out fake polling numbers stating that Israelis are against the war. Maybe Livni could put out that he government of Israel will fall, complete chaos will reign and the state of Israel will cease to exist.

      The lie will come to light after 2 or 3 weeks, but Israel would have time to dismantle Hamas in the meantime. In the interim Obama will be slavering publicly for Israel’s demise with crocodile tears. Afterwards he could be pummeled Obama politically for his statements and for being duped. Obama will look stupid for not attending intel meetings or being surrounded by yes men. He will look craven for wishing Israel gone and wanting it so bad he was fooled so easily.

      After such a deception operation he would look as smart as Sheila Jackson Lee.

      • The March Hare

        Really? Sheila Jackson Lee keeps getting reelected. It really would depend upon to whom it would look smart.

        • Sherrod

          Sheila Jackson Lee was smart enough to figure out which political party had the most power, which as all the intelligence she needs. Her voters are smart enough to feather their nests with free stuff obtained through political extortion. They live for today not tomorrow. Her voters do not care if it is a political Ponzi scheme.

          • JacksonPearson


  • Edward Cline

    John Kerry is a non-entity looking for a place in history. “I created a sustainable ceasefire. That’s my claim to fame.” Except that the “sustainable ceasefire” isn’t going to happen. Ergo, he will remain as much a zero as his boss in the White House. But — he won’t be forgotten. He’ll be remembered as a backstabbing phony.

  • kate5778b

    The tragedies are:

    1. No Gazan civillian is allowed in the plush, concrete-laden terror tunnels and are made to ‘shelter’ amongst weapons in schools, hospitals, mosques and homes forcing the death toll higher.

    2. Stray Hamas rockets who kill Arab Palestinian children and women are covered up quickly and blamed upon Israel.

    3. The leaflet warnings (who’s ever done that before in the history of war?) are used by Hamas, to encourage people to die for allah as a form of ‘worship’ and not to evacutate.

    4. The University Geophys teams haven’t been employed to track and destroy the tunnels – simple, easyish, cost-effective.

    5. That people think it’s just Hamas, but they have asked Hizbullah (means party of allah) to join them. It’s more than these two; look at Boko Haram, Isis, Moro, Fatah they are merely heads of one ideology which wants a worldwide caliphate, in some places, you can’t buy or sell if you don’t belong to it.

    6. The propaganda war plays on peoples’ emotions and latent hatred/fears, Jews and Christians have got caught up in this lie to their detriment…..the Arab Palestinian flag is already flying over town halls in Preston, Bradford and Tower Hamlets…….good for Birminham for refusing to!

    7. It is always Hamas/Hizbullah/ISIS/moro/Boko Haram/Fatah/Uighers &… which initiate the trouble and are always initially ignored or excuses made for them by the intellectualys and press who side with them.

    • IslamDownpressesHumanity

      Leaflet warnings were used by the US when it bombed Japan. It might have even be used to warn about the nuclear attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

      • American Patriot

        Contrast the American actions in the Japanese cities with the Japanese action in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. The Japanese gave no warning at all with regards to Pearl Harbor. That was a surprise attack, just like Al-Qaeda and the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

  • Americana

    I agree with Kerry. “The momentum generated by these short-term cease-fires is the best way to achieve a sustainable cease-fire”
    I do want Israel to continue to exist. With ISIS inching ever closer to Israel’s doorstep making peace is its’ best chance for survival.

    • Bamaguje

      Israel should make peace with whom?
      Hamas charter clearly states it is committed to the destruction of Israel, not the hyped 2-state solution.
      PLO officials have severally expressed similar sentiments – that nothing short of the destruction of the Jewish state would satisfy them, yet dhimmis like you pretend not to hear.

      Some relevant quotes from Hamas charter:

      “Israel will remain erect until Islam destroys it”

      “Israel, by virtue of its being Jewish and of having a Jewish population, defies Islam and Muslims.”

      “There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors”

      ‘The Prophet of Allah’ stated that – “The hour of judgment shall not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, so that the Jews hide behind trees and stones, and each tree and stone will say: “Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him,” except for the Gharqad tree, for it is the tree of the Jews.’”

      In case you still don’t get it, the Arab-Israeli conflict is not a territorial dispute, but about intolerance of the only non-Muslim nation in the Middle east, which Muslims consider Dar-ul Islam – Muslim territory.

      Palestinians already have their own state – Jordan – when British mandated Palestine was partitioned between Arabs and Jews in 1922.
      Arabs got the lion share (77%), and Jews were forbidden from the Arab portion.

      Arabs should similarly have been barred from the Jewish portion which
      included Gaza, Judea & Samaria. In essence Palestinians are the
      occupiers of Jewish territory in Gaza and West bank as per the 1922
      partition, which is the last internationally binding agreement on

      Despite what Palestinian propagnadists and their ill-informed apologists like you would have us believe, no international agreement ever alloted West bank and Gaza to the rabidly antisemitic Arabs now masquerading as “Palestinians.”

      • Americana

        Hamas really doesn’t mean what they put in their charter.

        “There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors”

        They included it in their charter to get elected is all.

        • The March Hare

          Oh, Hamas told you that? Wow, you ARE deluded.

        • Moshe David Tokayer

          Yeah right. They shout it at every opportunity but you decided they don’t really mean it.

          They said Hitler really didn’t mean what he wrote in Mein Kampf either. Look where that got us.

          We won’t make the same mistake twice. It costs too much.

          • Americana

            Would John Kerry and Barack Obama call for a cease fire if Hamas really meant it? Don’t be daft.

            Look if we give you up, maybe they won’t go after us.

            There should be no Israel in the first place. Jews should not allowed to have to immigrate to Palestine to join other Jews already living there when the Ottoman Empire rule.

            Jews were already living in Palestine in the 1880s and other Jews joined them. That is unconscionable. Muslims can emigrate to Europe and America but emigration cannot go the other way.

          • StanleyT

            Okay, your last paragraph is the giveaway. You don’t actually believe any of the crap you’ve been writing. Your sole purpose here is to stir everyone up. Nice try.

          • Webb

            Narcissistic Personality Order on display. She has been ignored sufficiently over the past several days that she has actually gone into withdrawal from not getting her ‘narcissistic supply’ of disdain filled. Without a list of fresh denouncements which she uses to prove to herself her superiority over us, she can’t function, so today she’s pulling out all the stops — even calling for the justified deaths of dozens of innocent Israeli civilians. See her post above for confirmation. She couldn’t be one bit crazier. Although personality disorders aren’t a psychosis, they’re much closer to psychosis than neurosis, and the way to handle them is to push them until they go psychotic and then medicate them with the major tranquilizers. I’m serious, she would truly snap if her narcissistic supply of insults suddenly dried up. But we’re normal, and she’s expert at eliciting insulting responses from normal people. Forums like this are magnets for narcissistics. She howls about posts exposing her particular personality disorder because she’s terrified of her narcissistic supply drying up. This is precisely why Shakespeare wrote in Richard III, “Dispute not with her: she is lunatic.” Today is the most extreme I have ever seen her. If we stopped replying to her, I guarantee we’d see her meltdown, because she only writes to get fed insults.


            She’s beginning to smoke and burn out.

          • bigjulie

            I could not agree more! Perhaps she has lost her weekly dole from Soros, but she has come completely unscrewed today. Good thing, actually…nobody should pay the least attention to her anymore. I was on to her when she was pleading for a “peace treaty with Hamas”! Yeahhhh…right!


            The Briticana does write a lot. OCD is in control.

            Let her knock herself out.

          • Gee

            No Arabs should be allowed to immigrate to Israel – we were here first – send the colonists home.

          • Habbgun

            It is like you are inside her brain. How do you swim in there and not get sick from the sewage and animal waste? Not only are you a brilliant satirist but you are teflon coated.

            I salute you sir!!!!

          • Brooklyn Farmer

            Both of you guys made my week, thanks.

          • Drakken

            No more muslims, no more problem, there, fixed it for you.

        • Gee

          “Hamas really doesn’t mean what they put in their charter.” Prove it. Point to a single statement EVER that remotely supports that claim.


          “Hamas really doesn’t mean what they put in their charter.”

          Muhammed Atta didn’t mean to hijack a passenger plane and fly it into a building.?

          FOAD Briticana.

          • IslamDownpressesHumanity

            Muhammed Atta was a “moderate” muslime before he flew his first airliner.


        Hamass Charter of 1988 – the same year that Pan Am 103 was bombed.

    • StanleyT

      Wow. I thought this post was about as stupid as stupid could get. But then your replies to the folks who responded to you (down below) proved me wrong. Man, how can anybody be so deluded? Or maybe a better question would be “Man, what are you on?” And can I get some?

      • Gee

        It is called a lobotomy and why would anybody want to be that stupid?

    • ObamaYoMoma

      The definition of insanity used to be doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different outcome. Now it’s reading Americana’s nonsense over and over again without acquiring irreversible brain damage!


        Slot machine.

        Coin toss.

        Roll of the dice.

    • iluvisrael

      a schmuck like you would

    • Drakken

      There is no peace unless you have total Victory, go pound some sand raghead lover.

    • chelmer

      Ok, I’ll bite. When ISIS arrives, they’re going to make peace with Israel? Good grief, they’re slaughtering Arabs by the hundreds! Mutilating the vaginas of millions of Arab women! They don’t even LIKE us!

  • Spaldeen

    I believe it was Edwin Starr, not the Temptations, who sang “War, What Is it Good For.”

    • The March Hare

      From Wilkipedia.

      The song written by Norman Whitfield and Barrett Strong was first done by the Temptations on an album. After many requests to release it as a single, Motown re-recorded it with Edwin Starr so as to not alienate the Temptations more conservative fans. That became a number one hit.

      • Daniel Greenfield

        thank you

  • Americana

    The ceasefire between Hamas and Israel negotiated by Hillary and the Muslim Brotherhood would have held up, but the vast Right wing conspiracy deposed Morsi!

    • Bamaguje

      Vast right wing conspiracy?
      I thought it was the Egyptian people who revolted against Morsi in massive demonstrations across the country.

      • Lanna

        It was the voice of the people….they wanted no part of Morsi, the Brotherhood, or Sharia Law and spoke loud and clear!

    • Gee

      Why would have it held? The Arabs have violated every ceasefire and treaty that they have ever signed for the past 1,400 years.

      You really should learn something about the subjects that you comment on. You would be over matched in a debate with one of my grandchildren any one of them.

      • IslamDownpressesHumanity

        It’s a tradition that harkens all the way back to the false treaty muhammad made w/the Jews of Khybar. The peace treaty he only repudiated when he attacked the Jews of Khybar, just to make sure they knew the peace treaty was now null and void.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      Seek mental help.

    • Drakken

      No stupid, the folks in Egypt saw the writing on the wall and didn’t want a muslim theocracy in charge so the military took over. Please by all means, come one over here to ME and set things right with you shaking your finger and lets see how that works out for ya.

    • American Patriot

      The vast left-wing conspiracy toppled Mubarak. Why don’t you talk about that, Moronicana?

  • Americana

    ”Our focus is now is on short term cease-fires violations that can be built on each other until we achieve victory” – JFK

    • Gee

      He never said anything remotely close. Now you are inventing ‘quotes’. Pathetic

      • Americana

        By JFK I mean John Forbes Kerry.

        • Habbgun

          We’re not worthy! We’re not worthy!!!!


          Mr. Heinz.

        • American Patriot

          It’s not John Forbes Kerry. It’s just John Kerry. He’s not Southern, so quit it with the “medal” (middle in slang, not the reward) names. Besides, the only JFK is John Fitzgerald Kennedy and unlike John Kerry, the Cold War president had a strong foreign policy stance against America’s enemies, Moronicana.

  • DaCoachK

    One correction to another good article. It was Edwin Starr, not The Temptations, who sang “War.” Both on Motown, so it’s an honest error. Israel needs to end its Muslim problem, once and for all. Begin by surrounding Gaza with IDF forces, and have those heavily armed forces simply meet in the middle of Gaza, killing everything in its path. Then build a very tall fence around Israel and don’t allow Muslims entry into the country. Let the savages live in the desert. It is the only way Israel will survive. This insanity has to end.

    • kasandra

      Oops. I just posted this info above. I hadn’t seen your post. Sorry. Didn’t mean to copycat.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      The Temptations also sang it.

      • wileyvet

        Another spot on analysis Mr. Greenfield. You may be interested to know that I had a meeting with my Canadian Member of Parliament today to discuss Israel, Hamas, Islam and other issues. He just returned from Israel in an official capacity, and I was very encouraged by his understanding of the issues. I wore my Long Live Israel T-shirt, and he liked that. He was quite candid in his appraisal, and said he was most impressed with Israel as a whole, and the courtesy and honesty of the Israelis he met. He seemed to fully grasp the truth about what Israel must do, and deplores the Leftist alliance of hate and the lies it produces. I left him with a copy of this very article, as well as a list that included FPM and other counter jihad websites and personalities like yourself, Robert Spencer and Raymond Ibrahim. I went prepared, showing I have a solid understanding of the issues of today, thanks in no small part to writers like yourself and the others here at FPM. I also took the liberty of providing him with a copy of the Hamas Charter which he took. I only had 30 minutes with him, so he said next time to book an hour so we can discuss this in more detail, as I was just getting warmed up.

        • Daniel Greenfield

          The Hamas charter, especially Article Seven, is quite important to pass on.

          And what you’ve said is encouraging. I hope there are more like him.

  • emptorpreempted

    “The rocket attacks on Israel never stopped. Obama, Kerry and Clinton just pretended that they did.”

    That’s because their definition of a ceasefire is when Israel doesn’t shoot back. Whether Hamas fires rockets into Israel is completely irrelevant.

    • IslamDownpressesHumanity

      Yes, the one-sided ceasefire so popular in the islamic world.


        Also popular in the Socialist, Regressive Progressive world.

  • Gee

    The PLO signed at least 28 ceasefires with Lebanon. They broke every single one of them in less than a day, most before the inked dried on the paper.

    Arabs cannot be trusted – they have proven for the last 1,400 years that they will not keep their word.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      Arabs cannot be trusted – they have proven for the last 1,400 years that they will not keep their word.

      Uhm…Arabs or Muslims. Arabs, i.e., residents of the Arab Peninsula, have been around for much than 1400 years. Thus, you mean Muslims. Of course, Muslims, since they are waging a jihad against all infidels to ultimately make Islam supreme, will always try to dupe infidels. As a matter of fact, Muslims can only make a Hudna with infidels, which is a kind of temporary truce Muslims make that they fully intend to break as soon as they deem the time is right. As for as peace ever existing between Muslim and infidels goes, that can only come after Islam has been made supreme through the imposition of Sharia and only after the infidels have been subjugated into Islamic totalitarianism, i.e., rendered into harsh and debilitating dhimmitude.

      • chelmer

        Islam is basically the religion of the Arabs. It reflects Arab attitudes and culture. People who practice Islam adopt Arab attitudes, just as Christians (whether they like it or not) are basically taking on Jewish attitudes.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          Actually, far more than anything else, Islam is an extremely draconian form of totalitarianism that seeks world domination, as opposed to being just a so-called religion, and just like in the old Communist Soviet Union where all non-conformers were sent to the Soviet gulags, in Islam all non-conformers are summarily executed for apostasy and blasphemy according to the dictates of Islam.

          Thus, I disagree with the whole notion that Islam is a religion, as Islam is not a religion at all, unless you consider a so-called religion that executes all apostates and all blasphemers as being a religion. Maybe you do, but I don’t. Indeed, that’s the definition of a cult!

          I also don’t morally equate Muslims with Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists the same way you do either, as we never see Christians, Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists waging jihad perpetually against all infidels the same way we see all Muslims doing in order to make their so-called religion and at the same time their own culture supreme above all others throughout the world. But then again, that’s me.

    • Drakken

      Sure you can trust an arab, when they are in the ground that is.

      • IslamDownpressesHumanity

        I heard practically the exact same thing from a Syrian expatriate Jewish family at my ACT for America chapter meeting. They only said this after hearing the usual whine about most muslimes being good and peaceful people, a position they didn’t appreciate considering the fact generations of their family had experienced nothing but “moderate” to not-so-moderate persecution at the hands of the islamic-fascists that ran Syria.

  • Rdlake

    Decades of dealing with terror and outside forces like the US & UN intruding with accusations such as disproportionate force & demands to cease actions. These are entities who are not affected by the horrors of Muslim hatred, who make claims & demands from the safety of their own back yards.

    • Americana

      The Israelis are using disproportionate force. It should be equal. The Israelis are using just as much disproportionate force as the 2 federal marshals and the NYPD detective used, when they served the alleged child molester Mozdir with a warrants. Mozdir died, but the cops were only wounded. That is very disproportionate, very unfair!

      Everything would have been fair, if the cops had not have been wearing bullet proof vests.

      • Habbgun

        You sir are a genius!!!! You sound like Americana red but you are using actual satire!!! Brilliant. You are a genius!!! Well done sir!!


          She’s a she.

          But sometimes a guy fills in for her.

          • Habbgun

            There is a thread where they are fighting over who is the real Americana. An actual virtual spat between Communist organizations. The Peoples Americana Force is fighting the Americana Peoples Force. You can’t make this stuff up.

            Will the real American please stand up? PULL!!!!

      • Drakken

        Overkill. is highly under rated.

      • Debbie G

        Someone, please tell me this comment is a joke. Please.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Doesn’t Israel deserve to win its war on terror?

    First of all, the so-called “War on Terror” isn’t a war on terror, because terrorism is a tactic and it is also a tactic that is never used by Muslims. As Muslims wage jihad instead, which is a holy war waged by all Muslims both violently and non-violently against all infidels to ultimately make Islam supreme throughout the world.

    The violent variety of jihad employs primarily “total war” tactics and because it employs primarily “total war” tactics, less than astute writers, like this particular one, for instance, too often misconstrue violent jihad as somehow being terrorism instead of what it actually is. Thus, their unhinged obsession with falsely portraying terrorism as being the greatest threat emanating from Islam and, of course, collectively misleading their readers at the same time.

    However, the truth is non-violent varieties of jihad are astronomically far more prevalent relative to violent varieties of jihad and also represent an exponentially far greater threat for the infidel world at large compared to all the violent jihadists in the world combined and that are also mischaracterized as being terrorists by clueless writers like this one. But you will never hear this from them, since non-violent jihad doesn’t resonate or sell the same way that terrorism does. Nonetheless, non-violent jihad is roughly the equivalent to the Cold War that was also fought primarily non-violently between the free world and the Communist totalitarian world during the past century.

    As a matter of fact, one of the main reasons Bush’s so-called “War on Terror” was doomed to fail from the very get go and inevitably turned into an unmitigated disaster is because he declared war on a tactic that is not even an Islamic manifestation. Thus, his so-called “War on Terror” was preordained to fail even before he ever instigated it.

    Of course, thanks to the prevalence of Republican propagandists, most establishment Republican RINOs today have been inculcated to believe that Bush’s so-called “War on Terror” was a strategic success until Obama came along and screwed up everything, even though none of Bush’s fantasy based objectives were ever achieved in the first place since they were all impossible to begin with.

    Apparently, reality and the truth mean little today within the current incarnation of the Republican Party. Indeed, they could care less about learning from their own very tragic mistakes, as it is more important for them to cast blame onto their opposition for their own tragic mistakes. Sort of the same way it has been for decades within the Dhimmicrat Party as well. Indeed, today in America in effect we have two major leftwing political parties that control this country.

    In any event, it’s not a “War on Terror” because terror isn’t even an Islamic manifestation, as Muslims wage jihad (holy war) instead, and they wage jihad to ultimately make Islam supreme throughout the world. Thus, it’s a clash of civilizations between the Islamic totalitarian world, on the one hand, as the aggressors and the infidel world, on the other hand, as the victims of their aggression, and the sole purpose of that jihad (holy war) is to ultimately make Islam supreme throughout the world.

    Thus, individually Israel or, for that matter, any other infidel country can’t win this holy war waged against us all alone, as it will take the collective unified action of the entire infidel world acting together in unison as one to put an end to the worldwide global jihad that is being waged against all infidels and all infidel states collectively throughout the world by the Islamic totalitarian world.

  • wildjew


    Joe Scarborough turns on Israel

    “Scarborough described himself as having a record as one of Israel’s biggest supporters….”

    This is like a “some of my best friends are Jews” moment.

    • Mika the Democrat Shill

      After Mika signed for commercials and said the “Morning JEW’ instead of the morning Joe, what did you expect?

    • Daniel Greenfield

      To “turn on” Israel, he would have to be pro-Israel. This isn’t exactly a new event for him.

      • wildjew

        I guess the Politico reporter thought Scarborough was pro-Israel.

        • Daniel Greenfield

          not openly supporting Hamas is considered pro-Israel

          • wildjew

            Scarborough would tell you he supports the Palestinian people, not Hamas. Just as Hussein Ibish is telling radio talk show host Andy Dean as I am listening (right now) to Dean tell Ibish Palestinians voted for Hamas just as Germans voted for the Na zi party. Ibbish says Dean is misleading his audience by linking the Palestinians to Hamas and it is so much nonsense.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Scarborough would tell you he supports the Palestinian people, not Hamas.

            Anyone who supports the so-called Palestinians, but rejects Hamas has been reading too many writers who wittingly or unwittingly misrepresent the actual reality of Islam. As a matter of fact, while it is true that only a small minority of Muslims are actual violent jihadists like members of Hamas, the reality, however, is that all the rest of them are non-violent stealth and deceptive jihadists.

            Not to mention that non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad also represents an exponentially far greater threat for the infidel world at large relative to all the violent jihadists combined in the world that are too often misrepresented as being terrorists by those same writers.

            Unfortunately, in most people’s minds today, the Muslims who aren’t outwardly violent are naively assumed to be so-called moderate Muslims that are just like us infidels in that they share all the same wants, desires, hopes, and aspirations we all share. Ask GWB how that idiotic assumption worked out for him? However, he is so oblivious that he probably still hasn’t quite figured that one out yet.

            Hussein Ibish is a classic non-violent stealth and deceptive jihadists. Indeed, he is what Greenfield would term an Islamist, i.e., a radical or extremist Muslim. Nevertheless, he is just a run of the mill non-violent stealth and deceptive jihadist like all the rest of them that aren’t violent.

  • Lanna

    Its time Israel quits listening to and trying to please its enemies, and that so majorly includes the US government, who takes sides with Hamas in the war. Islam goes around with the attitude that when the Jews are wiped out the sun of peace will begin to rise on the entire world.” A horrible lie! The foundation of Islamic belief is that they cannot get rid of hatred for their fellow man, which is the insane ideology of Islam. NO wonder they are a failing their people, the Quaran is full of promises of all kinds of pleasure in heaven to those who followed Mohammed’s killing spree and curses and condemnation to those who chose to escape from fighting. For Muslims to make peace with Jews and acknowledge that Jews or Christians are human beings who deserve the same rights as everyone, would have a devastating effect on how Muslims view their religion, their history, and the actions of their prophet.

    • IslamDownpressesHumanity

      If Jews weren’t demonized in all islam’s holy texts it would certainly make it difficult to explain the actions of the most holey and perfect man in islam in killing, expelling or enslaving all the prosperous, peaceful Jewish tribes that had lived in Soddy Barbaria even before he was born.

    • chelmer

      “in every generation, someone rises up to wipe us out.” We say it at the Passover meal every year.
      All this killing is NOT because Muslims feel confident about the future. It’s desperation. But desperate men are dangerous.

  • Wolfthatknowsall

    Finish the job, at hand. Then, when the war’s over and victory won, Israel can declare peace … now, that’s better than a ceasefire.

  • Race_Dissident

    Incidentally, over at Takimag, a Judeophobic feeding frenzy is taking place. Conservatives–and I don’t care if they ARE paleocons–shouldn’t behave this way. I urge you to check out this piece and the comments, and to fight the good fight.

    • emptorpreempted

      Those people are not conservatives, they are extreme nationalist hoodlums. I, for one, have absolutely *nothing* in common with them.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Taki really hates Jews, so not terribly surprising.

      But I’m glad to hear from him that the New York Times toes a slavishly pro-Israel line.

      Clearly I’ve been reading the wrong paper all these years. I should borrow his copy.

      • chelmer

        Daniel’s humor is really quite good.

        • Daniel Greenfield

          In this case it’s more of a casual contempt toward a wealthy clown.

  • Habbgun

    Israel should give them what they want. A totally proportionate response. No guided missiles! Just unguided missiles shot at Hamas. No major military offenses. Just small teams of militants intent on killing civilian targets. In fact the militants shouldn’t even be Israeli soldiers. They should be random extremists who just happened to be armed, trained and shooting a particular Gazan pizza parlor, 2 a.m. on a Thursday.

    • chelmer

      Russell Brand explained recently that when you’re a weak, helpless Arab polity, you have to resort to vile acts of murder, contrary to all accepted conventions of war and civilization, in order to resist occupation. You seem to be suggesting that if you’re a civilized country just trying to defend your citizens, if committing vile acts of murder is the only way to get your enemy to stop, then you should do it. Russell would probably agree. After all, according to him, the ends justify the means. So the Israelis should dig their own tunnels, pop up at random times, kill people at random, and then run back home. Plant IEDs in market places, kill kill kill.
      But that begs the question. Israel could kill all the Arabs in that region tomorrow if they wanted to (a fact that makes me raise my eyebrows when the Jews are accused of “genocide” by some hysterical Lefty). Russell would have to agree that, hey, if that’s the only thing that works, it’s morally justified. But Russell isn’t a mentsch. He doesn’t understand what it means, the whole civilization thing.

      • IslamDownpressesHumanity

        Russell Brand is a cretin. He invited Pamela Geller to speak on his talk show and sandbagged her by having a plant in the audience raise a sign that was derogatory towards Ms. Geller.

  • ArentIpretty

    Israel needs to take the whole of it over. Enough nonsense with these genocidal Islamic pricks. Next comes Lebanon. The Christians of Lebanon deserve to live without the barbaric Islamists in their midst. Time to fight against the insanity that is Islam. Anywhere ISIS exists should be obliterated tout suite.



  • Bill731

    All ceasefires do is buy time for terrorists to regroup and attack Israel again. Israel should finish them off once and for all.

    • IslamDownpressesHumanity

      This islamic strategy goes all the way back to the ’48’ War of Independence, when the Jewish forces began making significant headway against the Arab muslime armies they would whine to the UN for a ceasefire. Sometimes the Arab muslime leaders would unilaterally break the ceasefire when they felt they had regained the tactical edge.

  • kasandra

    “War (What is it Good For?)” was by Edwin Starr (he of “Agent Double-0 Soul”, “Stop Her on Sight”, etc.) not the Temps. Just wanted to correct the record.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      The Temptations performed it as well

  • celador2

    Obama has a dislike of the west which shows in his doing not one thing to stop terrorism in ME. He backs chaos over peace as when he overthrew ally Mubarak who kept peace 30 years. O want to see Israel and US harmed or destaba;lized by no secure borders imo.

  • IslamDownpressesHumanity

    When you reach two million cease fires you get a cupie doll!


    Daniel, very good article, THX. No biggie, but Edwin Starr did ‘WAR’ . The Temptations did it on an album, never a single. They and the record C.. did not want to take a chance on bad press for the Temptation If all the sands of the off-spring of Ishmael were to be turned into glass then the need for WAR with these scum sucking 7th Century rag-heads would end.

  • badenguru

    The good ship Obama slips beneath the waves with all hands scrambling for deck chairs. American foreign policy has the strength of wet toilet paper, Hamas has continually shown it cares little what the UN or the USA thinks. ISIS will come to Gaza and pour more fuel on the fire and the Palistinians will vote them in on the strength that they can repatriate their lost territory from Israel and we will send monetary aid for education and medical aid. For what?

  • objectivefactsmatter

    “Israel is expected to accept a million cease-fires, no matter how worthless, because a cease-fire is an innately good thing, regardless of whether it’s actually good for anything. If war is always bad, then cease-fires are always good. It doesn’t matter if winning a war actually leads to peace while cease-fires just lead to more war.”

    This is leftist foreign policy in a nutshell. Unless their dear leader wants to bomb some folks. That’s OK as long as it’s OK with dear leader.

  • IslamDownpressesHumanity

    Isralie should put in a stop order at one million and one ceasefires.

  • mollysdad

    The moral to this article is that Israel can and should achieve peace with the complete and final overthrow of the enemy. That is likely to entail the expulsion of the Muslims from the Gaza territory.