Ontario Gov Limits Promotion to Employees who “Self-Identify as Black Females”


This is obviously meant to cover black men who self-identify as women and exclude black women who self-identify as men. But what about white women who self-identify as black women? Or white men who self-identify as black women?

If we’re going to treat basic human biology as a matter of self-identification, why not treat race, which is much more of a construct, the same way?

Obama chooses to identify as a black male. He could self-identify as a white man. Elizabeth Warren tried to self-identify as a Cherokee woman. There are a lot of white aborigines in Australia who self-identify as aborigines and gain the benefits from it.

What exactly is to stop a white woman from self-identifying as black and demanding a promotion based on affirmative action?

TORONTO — The Ontario government has launched a project to open up promotion possibilities for its employees — but only those who “self-identify as a black female” need apply.

According to documents obtained by QMI Agency, the Administrative Internship Pilot Program is the first Ontario Public Service (OPS) initiative in “recent history” to target a specific group of employees.

“The purpose of this internship program, which has been developed after considering employees’ feedback and OPS employment data, is to begin to increase the representation of black, female employees in functional roles (such as) communications, finance, policy and procurement,” a Dec. 5 memo to all Ministry of Government Services employees reads.

However, Gregory Thomas of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation said all Ontarians should receive equal treatment from their government.

But they can. All they have to do is self-identify as black females… and then finally everyone will be equal. And questioning anyone’s self-identification or economic policies will be considered a hate crime.

  • http://fdnyretiree.com/ Ed FDNYRetiree

    Between its pro-Mooslim laws, and idiotic persecution of anyone criticizing Islam or Muslims, and now this, CANADA IS FINISHED.

    • Raymond_in_DC

      Given its too open immigration policy, Muslims now outnumber Jews in Canada by almost 3 to 1. And since the idiocy continues, it will only get worse over time.

    • laura r

      does canada have protection for gay muslims??

  • Photometric Corps

    Human resources personnel should go around measuring people’s pigmentation based on photometer reading of their skin.

    The darker the skin the higher the salary.

    They would need a uniform. Maybe one with brown shirts.

    As an ancillary job they could burn books by Kurt Vonnegut Jr with the story Harrison Bergeron and others.
    While working the could sing Kumbayah and shout snappy phrases like “Hail Victory!”.

    • Photometric Corps

      photometer – an instrument that measures luminous intensity or brightness, luminous flux, light distribution, COLOR, etc., usually by comparing the light emitted by two sources, one source having certain specified standard characteristics. -http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/photometer

    • Judahlevi

      You are right that it is ridiculous.

      The Ontario government just declared itself racist and sexist. There is no other word for people who identify other people only by the color of their skin or their gender. Whether they are negative or positive about it – it is still racism and sexism.

      It is also discriminatory to any unique individual who needs this job. This is the harm that multiculturalism creates. We are not groups, we are all unique individuals.

      • zee

        They declared themselves racist and sexist long ago.Twenty five years ago I was turned down for a job with the Ontario government because , as the job ad said, it was only open to “women or visible minorities.”. And then I was offered a one year contract training the person who was hired.

        Nothing those pigs do would surprise me.

  • Seek

    The song-and-dance parody, “Blame Canada,” featured in the 1998 “South Park” movie, had the right idea. How did our good neighbor to the north move so far leftward? This is egalitarianism gone mad; even the U.S. hasn’t gone this far.

  • http://www.nrk.no/ Birger Skruddusvingen

    “Ontario Gov Limits Promotion to Employees who “Self-Identify as Black Females”

    Is this extreme insanity or evil… or both?

    • laura r

      someone getting paid big time for this. gay lobby?

  • Michael Shaw

    I should self identify as a melanin challenged lesbian trapped in the body of a man to get one of those soft government jobs.

  • jakespoon

    Anyone ever read the book “A Confederacy of Dunces” by John Kennedy Toole? It is coming to life.

  • DogmaelJones1

    Mental illness must be a communicable disease if it affects not only “employees” who “self-identify as black females,” but the ones who accept the premiss that one can ‘self-identify” with any gender or race regardless of gender or race. and establish special hiring policies to cater to them. But, seriously, all this that’s going on in Canada and the U.S. is a consequence of the influence of the Marxist “deconstruction” of just about everything, including gender and race.

    • laura r

      what about the wigger? what about gay wiggers? what about trans wiggers? i mean if you self identify w/black culture (especially beyonce), then you should have all the same rights. someone should de a test case.

  • Aurelius

    Race a construct?

    I have been able to prove to myself over the years, in actual legal cases, that I am more accurate at assessing race from skeletal remains than from looking at living people standing before me.

    ~ Dr. George W. Gill

    Does race exist…..?

    • Science

      The only people who actually believe race doesn’t exist are ….. white people. Shocking, but true.

  • http://www.clarespark.com/ Clare Spark

    Race is indeed a social construct. Apart from obvious physical variations, our species is one, though racists deny it. Multiculturalism is covertly racist. On “Undoing multiculturalism” see http://clarespark.com/2011/02/11/undoing-multiculturalism/.

    • Smoking Hamster

      And if you look at just about any characteristic other than skin pigmentation you will see more variation within “races” than between.

      • Fillipi

        You could redo a map of the human race and base it on blood type.

        White Armenians would be grouped with black Africans.

        I note that my Asian spouse has facial features that are remarkably similar to some Somalis. The Somalis live thousand of miles form where they were born.
        I also noted that my spouse, who has a low nose bridge, has the makings of a aquiline nose. I kid you not. It is all in the timing.

        • Science

          Precisely why one would not base it on blood type. There is still much to be learned from DNA analysis. What we are beginning to find is that small variations can produce major differences.

          • Fillipi

            “Precisely why one would not base it on blood type?”
            As an exercise. To get people to think outside of the box of color. Africa has 5 races.
            Bushmen, Pygmy, (West Africa), Nilotic & Caucasian. You can break the Caucasians in Africa in to Hamitic, Semitic & Cushitic.

        • Harley

          And how many White Armenians suffer from sickle-cell anemia or are lactose intolerant?

          • Fillipi

            Both are predominantly type B blood. The allele for sickle cell is on another gene. A map of race based on blood type would look different.

            African have a high incidence of sickle cell for the same reason caucasians have a high incidence of cystic fibrosis. There was environmental pressure. In the case of sickle cell the cause was human P. vivax (malaria). For cystic fibrosis the cholera epidemics were the pressure that selected for those genes.

            Color is determined by latitude and access to vitamin D. There are 2 genes for melatonin. Red/Yellow and brown/black. Africa is home to 5 races genetically.

          • Chavi Beck

            Lactose intolerance is very common in many ethnicities.

      • Science

        That is patently false. The pariwise genetic distances, from within- and between-populations, are substantially divergent (in fact, for Fst=0.15, reflecting average intercontinental differentiation from SNPs, the averages differ by almost 50%.

        See “The Cumulative Effect of Genetic Markers on Classification Performance: Insights from Simple Models. Journal of Theoretical Biology. Volume 293, 21 January, Pages 206-218.”


        • Kevin D

          Chimpanzees and humans are 96% genetically similar. That 4% in variation makes a huge difference.

          We also now know that the so called “junk DNA” is not junk after all. Scientists are beginning to discover it serves various purposes too.

          We are only on the frontiers of genetic research. Right now, many are making it political. I too believe race (subspecies) exists.

    • Aurelius

      uh no, it isn’t. The mere fact that Dr. Gill can determine a person’s race, from their bones, without ever seeing their flesh, shows that race does exist.

      Dr. Gill is a world-renowned forensic anthropoligist, professor of anthropology at the University of Wyoming, and also serves as the forensic anthropologist for Wyoming law-enforcement agencies and the Wyoming State Crime Laboratory.

      He says race exists. And your credentials are?


      • A Z

        I have an east Asian spouse and their skull bear a remarkable resemblance to many Somalis down to certain dental defects.

        On a African skull the nasal cavity is more pear shaped and larger on a Caucasian skill the nasal cavity is narrower and had cartilage around the opening that is twisted.

        For forensic reconstruction of the skulls of crime victims forensic artists use spaces that are progressively thicker for Asians than whites with African being progressively thicker still for the lower jaw.

        Before it is all over we will be in the weeds talking about alleles for different genes, discussing neurobiology and calculus based statistics and the racists of any type will lose. Mark my words.

        “Do you want to play a game?”

        • Melissa

          Disagree. The “sociological constructs” thing is simply political correctness imposed on biological reality.

          • Harley

            I believe it is all part of the uber-leftist meme. You see, what is the harm with flooding Europe with Muslims and Africans when we’re all the same. All we need to do is work on that ideology thing and poof, we all live happily ever after in a land of unicorns and cotton-candy clouds. LOL.

          • Rick

            You could have immigration from people of any race into Europe and have problems and discord.
            The problem is assimilation. New immigrants no longer want to assimilate. It is wrong to have more immigration until that gets resolved and that might take a generation/20years. Immigration needs to be halted indefinitely.
            German has a parliament member who is genetically Vietnamese. but for all intents and purposes he is German. he speaks German, he has a German a name and he wants to assimilate. He was adopted.
            Now a person emigrating to another country need not change their surname, but they should adopt the language of the new country. If the want to keep their mother tongue, then fine. they become bilingual. but they need to speak the language of the country they live in.
            There is a war between the intellectual Left and everyone else when it comes to immigration. The Left does not want to see or does not care.

        • Harley

          And so anyone disagreeing with you is undoubtedly a racist? LOL.

        • Jakareh

          I’d wager any amount of money that if you put your wife among 100 Somalis I could pick her out at a glance. But, of course, for all your pseudo-scientific tripe you wouldn’t take the bet. The significance of race is a legitimate topic for debate, but to question the existence of different human races is to question the existence of objective reality.

          • Harley

            Agreed. As noted by Bruce Lahn and Lanny Ebenstein (who contend that race does exist) in “Nature,” 8 October 2009:

            The current moral position is a sort of ‘biological egalitarianism’. This dominant position emerged in recent decades largely to correct grave historical injustices, including genocide, that were committed with the support of pseudoscientific understandings of group diversity. The racial-hygiene theory promoted by German geneticists Fritz Lenz, Eugene Fischer and others during the Nazi era is one notorious example of such pseudoscience. Biological egalitarianism is the view that no or almost no meaningful genetically based biological differences exist among human groups, with the exception of a few superficial traits such as skin colour. Proponents of this view seem to hope that, by promoting biological sameness, discrimination against groups or individuals will become groundless.

            We believe that this position, although well intentioned, is illogical and even dangerous, as it implies that if significant group diversity were established, discrimination might thereby be justified. We reject this position. Equality of opportunity and respect for human dignity should be humankind’s common aspirations, notwithstanding human differences no matter how big or small. We also think that biological egalitarianism may not remain viable in light of the growing body of empirical data.

          • Guest

            Do you know the true parameters of differences cause by alleles?

            I would say that memes count for more. One reason there is a difference in tech development was geography.

            A good book to read would be “The Geography behind History” by W. Gordon East.

            “Power grows out of the barrel of a gun” – Mao

            It is instructive to look at China and Japan. In Japan the invaders took over the river valleys form the Ainu who were pushed into the mountains. The Ainu were not knuckle draggers. Ainu warriors were the palace guards, Varangian guard, for the Japanese elite. The Han controlled the rive valleys in China. They pushed the Thai, Burmese and others south.
            “Power grows out of the river valley”
            Look at the fertile crescent.
            But how would you explain steppe tribes like the Scythians, Huns, Mongols & Turks? If you consider the grasslands a ‘sea’. You have a “sea of grass” that sea connected South, central, East, Southwest Asia and Europe. That sea was very important in the development of Europe for good and for ill.

            The Wall street Journal has more than once pointed out a link between the ocean & navigable rivers and the OECD index. Trade is cheaper on water. Until modern navigation around 1500. The steppes were a functioned as a sea of grass. The desert did not
            Africa on the other hand had the Sahara desert. A desert has been called or is by definition a place where roads end. It is not very conducive to trade or exchange of ideals. The Romans held Africa with 1 legion because they had the desert.

            (As an aside the Romans built some little known walls in Africa. Walls are not to keep people out sometimes. They are merely built to prevent raiding parties easily leaving, especially laden down or with livestock. (Examples are Offa’s dyke, Hadrian Wall & the African limes.) Some times that is all they need to do to work.

            The Poles also built a multitude of dykes to prevent raids (Silesian Walls).


            Getting into the weeds the Romans limes in North Africa a did not keep tribes out. Some of those tribes were seasonal labor. Farmers needed them. so long as it was harder to raid than to do honest work. Rome did not have to keep them out. I would recommend reading Ancient Warfare and Medieval Warfare magazines. http://www.ancient-warfare.com I have read Osprey, Military History and other magazines, but theses are stepping up the game.)
            I also like to point out that the Ethiopians were good allies of the Romans. They are Cushitic. Not enough archeology has been done there about the dawn of agriculture or early Kingdoms. the history of Ethiopia is very important vis a vis the Romans, Sassanids, Judaism, Christianity and trade routes form AD200 to AD600.

    • Jakareh

      It may be one species, but it’s manifestly composed of different races. Saying otherwise is one of the most egregiously irrational examples of political correctness around. It makes no more sense than saying there are no dog breeds because all dogs are one species, or indeed that there no genders in any species.

  • Smoking Hamster

    There were events at my college for “self identified” men and women of color.

    I felt like going for the free pizza. I could go to both of the events with the modern “gender fluid” category.

  • Raymond_in_DC

    “What exactly is to stop a white woman from self-identifying as black and demanding a promotion based on affirmative action?”

    Reminds me of the white fellow who decided to challenge preferential treatment provided to various identity groups, including those with Hispanic surnames. He had his name legally changed to Rodriguez, or something equally Hispanic, then set out to claim his new entitlement.

    • Bill #2

      Great idea. All of those asians who are high scoring on their SATs should change their names to an appropriate minority and self identify with such minority to avoid the discriminatory selection for University places. Mr ‘Li Kung Do’ can transform into ‘Jesus Rodriguez’ or ‘Trevon Kinte’ and embrace his Hispanic or African-American adopted roots as necessary. Once part of a select minority group (and not just any minority group as Mr Li Kung Do has probably already discovered), Mr Li will discover the endemic discrimination against the Asian-Hispanic or Asia-African-American that will be need to be rectified by a scholarship and expedited enrolment in the University of his choice. Further assistance might be available should Mr Li discover his transgender nature and become pre-op ‘Maria Rodriguez’ or ‘Jazmine Kinte’ to ensure that all bases are covered (so as to speak).

      • carpe diem 36

        if elizabeth warren can do that why deny it to others??? let’s all take on minority names and we will all be entitled to affirmative action. then it will be gone forever. good riddance.

    • Chavi Beck

      Then there was the white guy whose parents had come to the US from South Africa. He chose “African American” (quite accurately for a change) on college forms, and got what-for from the race card establishment.

  • Hard Little Machine

    In graduate school years and years ago I remember that the Hispanic student of the year award went to a blonde haired blue eyed fellow named Danny McLaughlin. His dad was multigenerational white American and his mother was a white European Chilean expat. He had never been to ‘Latin America’ didn’t speak Spanish.