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	<title>Comments on: President of Student Palestinian Group Eagerly Looking Forward to Her Future Son Dying While Killing Jews</title>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2014 23:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jayceeme</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jayceeme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More Muslims have killed other Muslims than any other nation including Israel.  What about Muslims in Syria and Sudan and you have the chutzpah to talk about atrocities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More Muslims have killed other Muslims than any other nation including Israel.  What about Muslims in Syria and Sudan and you have the chutzpah to talk about atrocities.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayceeme</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jayceeme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You cannot occupy your own country odious cretin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot occupy your own country odious cretin.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayceeme</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jayceeme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What sort of monster are you to endorse child abuse of the worst kind.  Sacrificing your own children on the alter of Islamic fundamentalism]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What sort of monster are you to endorse child abuse of the worst kind.  Sacrificing your own children on the alter of Islamic fundamentalism</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Now, here&#039;s the payoff: If you can manage to do that, then I promise you I will divulge exactly where and how I acquired my extensive knowledge of Islam and the Islamic world. Are you up to the challenge?&quot;
 
I have a better idea.  You made your assertion about your Islamic expertise first, and I asked you about it.  Deal with that, and I promise I&#039;ll engage on this subsequent issue.  

Here&#039;s the part you don&#039;t seem to follow:  YOU made a claim to expertise, not I.  I&#039;m simply challenging you to back it up with specifics.  If you can&#039;t, I fully understand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Now, here&#8217;s the payoff: If you can manage to do that, then I promise you I will divulge exactly where and how I acquired my extensive knowledge of Islam and the Islamic world. Are you up to the challenge?&#8221;</p>
<p>I have a better idea.  You made your assertion about your Islamic expertise first, and I asked you about it.  Deal with that, and I promise I&#8217;ll engage on this subsequent issue.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the part you don&#8217;t seem to follow:  YOU made a claim to expertise, not I.  I&#8217;m simply challenging you to back it up with specifics.  If you can&#8217;t, I fully understand.</p>
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		<title>By: ObamaYoMoma</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ObamaYoMoma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I have, many times. Your response is that you&#039;ve &quot;forgotten more about Islam than I know.&quot; I was just curious to know what you meant by that, and now you&#039;ve made it clear - not a thing. It was empty braggadocio.&lt;/i&gt;

OK...let&#039;s keep this simple. I tell you what, since like the vast overwhelming majority of delusional Marxists today you like to purport yourself as being a leading authority on the subject of Islam, why don&#039;t you point to just one Euroloon country where mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage has been occurring since in the &#039;70s where the majority of the Muslim immigrants have actually assimilated and integrated, on their way to matriculating into productive and contributing citizens of their new host infidel states. Instead, of like clockwork, forming Muslim enclaves that then inevitably morph into Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia and that are in effect tiny independent Islamic statelets within the larger host infidel states. 

Furthermore, point to just one Islamic majority country anywhere in the world that doesn&#039;t harshly oppress, rape, and murder on a regular and routine basis the non-Muslim infidels that have the gross misfortune to live in those Islamic hellholes. 

Finally, point to just one Islamic majority country in the world that doesn&#039;t treat the female citizens, including Muslim females, worse than animals. 

Now, here&#039;s the payoff: If you can manage to do that, then I promise you I will divulge exactly where and how I acquired my extensive knowledge of Islam and the Islamic world. Are you up to the challenge?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I have, many times. Your response is that you&#8217;ve &#8220;forgotten more about Islam than I know.&#8221; I was just curious to know what you meant by that, and now you&#8217;ve made it clear &#8211; not a thing. It was empty braggadocio.</i></p>
<p>OK&#8230;let&#8217;s keep this simple. I tell you what, since like the vast overwhelming majority of delusional Marxists today you like to purport yourself as being a leading authority on the subject of Islam, why don&#8217;t you point to just one Euroloon country where mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage has been occurring since in the &#8217;70s where the majority of the Muslim immigrants have actually assimilated and integrated, on their way to matriculating into productive and contributing citizens of their new host infidel states. Instead, of like clockwork, forming Muslim enclaves that then inevitably morph into Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia and that are in effect tiny independent Islamic statelets within the larger host infidel states. </p>
<p>Furthermore, point to just one Islamic majority country anywhere in the world that doesn&#8217;t harshly oppress, rape, and murder on a regular and routine basis the non-Muslim infidels that have the gross misfortune to live in those Islamic hellholes. </p>
<p>Finally, point to just one Islamic majority country in the world that doesn&#8217;t treat the female citizens, including Muslim females, worse than animals. </p>
<p>Now, here&#8217;s the payoff: If you can manage to do that, then I promise you I will divulge exactly where and how I acquired my extensive knowledge of Islam and the Islamic world. Are you up to the challenge?</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2014 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If I&#039;m so wrong about Islam and you are so right about Islam, then simply prove me wrong...&quot;
 
I have, many times.  Your response is that you&#039;ve &quot;forgotten more about Islam than I know.&quot;  I was just curious to know what you meant by that, and now you&#039;ve made it clear - not a thing.  It was empty braggadocio. 
 
&quot;Indeed, you don&#039;t have to be an authority on Islam to see what it is. All you have to do is open your eyes.&quot;
 
Translation:  &quot;I don&#039;t have to know what I&#039;m talking about to talk about it.&quot;

Regards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If I&#8217;m so wrong about Islam and you are so right about Islam, then simply prove me wrong&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I have, many times.  Your response is that you&#8217;ve &#8220;forgotten more about Islam than I know.&#8221;  I was just curious to know what you meant by that, and now you&#8217;ve made it clear &#8211; not a thing.  It was empty braggadocio. </p>
<p>&#8220;Indeed, you don&#8217;t have to be an authority on Islam to see what it is. All you have to do is open your eyes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Translation:  &#8220;I don&#8217;t have to know what I&#8217;m talking about to talk about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Regards.</p>
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		<title>By: ObamaYoMoma</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ObamaYoMoma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2014 12:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;You&#039;ve said that before - but I notice that you duck the question of just how you came to know it. What is your educational and professional background that you are such an expert? Your expertise isn&#039;t coming across in your comments, and your assertion &quot;I know more&quot; doesn&#039;t really mean anything by itself - so how did you come by all that knowledge you&#039;ve since forgotten?&lt;/i&gt;

If I&#039;m so wrong about Islam and you are so right about Islam, then simply prove me wrong and shut me down at the same time by pointing out just one Euroloon country where mass Muslim immigration has been occurring since in the 70s and where the preponderance of Muslim immigrants have actually assimilated and integrated, then matriculated into contributing and productive citizens of their newly adopted host infidel state. Instead of forming Muslim enclaves that in time morph into Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia and that are in effect tiny Islamic statelets similar to Gaza within the larger host infidel states. 

Furthermore, point to just one Islamic state in the world where the non-Muslim infidels are not treated like dhimmis and instead of being harshly oppressed, murdered, and raped or treated equal under the law with Muslims. 

Indeed, you don&#039;t have to be an authority on Islam to see what it is. All you have to do is open your eyes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You&#8217;ve said that before &#8211; but I notice that you duck the question of just how you came to know it. What is your educational and professional background that you are such an expert? Your expertise isn&#8217;t coming across in your comments, and your assertion &#8220;I know more&#8221; doesn&#8217;t really mean anything by itself &#8211; so how did you come by all that knowledge you&#8217;ve since forgotten?</i></p>
<p>If I&#8217;m so wrong about Islam and you are so right about Islam, then simply prove me wrong and shut me down at the same time by pointing out just one Euroloon country where mass Muslim immigration has been occurring since in the 70s and where the preponderance of Muslim immigrants have actually assimilated and integrated, then matriculated into contributing and productive citizens of their newly adopted host infidel state. Instead of forming Muslim enclaves that in time morph into Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia and that are in effect tiny Islamic statelets similar to Gaza within the larger host infidel states. </p>
<p>Furthermore, point to just one Islamic state in the world where the non-Muslim infidels are not treated like dhimmis and instead of being harshly oppressed, murdered, and raped or treated equal under the law with Muslims. </p>
<p>Indeed, you don&#8217;t have to be an authority on Islam to see what it is. All you have to do is open your eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Little Machine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hard Little Machine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 23:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[someone should knock her out and strap a bomb to her. Speed her along the way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>someone should knock her out and strap a bomb to her. Speed her along the way.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bump.  Not trying to rush you on the citation, simply keeping the exchange visible to me on the Disqus interface.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bump.  Not trying to rush you on the citation, simply keeping the exchange visible to me on the Disqus interface.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 18:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Look at the doctrines, not the adherents.&quot;
 
Well, no.  The major religions of the world are what their adherents make them to be, not what your more-or-less casual perusal of their doctrines suggests that they ought to be.  If Religion A claims to decry violence, and Religion B claims to glorify it, but the adherents of Religion A are just as warlike as Religion B, then there is no descriptive or predictive value in insisting that Religion A is &quot;more peaceful&quot; than Religion B, and that Religion A&#039;s hawkishness is the result of its adherents&#039; misunderstanding of its tenets.
 
&quot;The Bible does not condone violence...&quot; 
 
Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war, with the Cross of Jesus...  While I happen to agree that the message of the New Testament is one of brotherly love, peace, and meekness, the history of Christendom suggests that I am in a distinct minority.  
 
Spend a moment or ten reflecting on the 30 Years&#039; War, and on the Spanish conquest of the Americas, and tell me again what Christians believe about organized violence.  

If you take an hour or so to review the history of organized violence in our world, you&#039;ll find that the Muslim lands do not stand out in any fashion - whether it be total body count, or prevalence of war, or intensity of violence.  

I submit that the reason so many of our sudden experts in Islam spend so much time wringing their hands about the issue is that American foreign policy, largely (thought certainly not exclusively) with the goal of securing military access to the world&#039;s most concentrated deposits of fossil fuels, have brought us into conflict with Muslims.  If the residents of the region all converted to Shinto tomorrow, the conflict would not go away.  It&#039;s important to try to understand Islam; it&#039;s also important not to use it as an excuse or distraction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Look at the doctrines, not the adherents.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, no.  The major religions of the world are what their adherents make them to be, not what your more-or-less casual perusal of their doctrines suggests that they ought to be.  If Religion A claims to decry violence, and Religion B claims to glorify it, but the adherents of Religion A are just as warlike as Religion B, then there is no descriptive or predictive value in insisting that Religion A is &#8220;more peaceful&#8221; than Religion B, and that Religion A&#8217;s hawkishness is the result of its adherents&#8217; misunderstanding of its tenets.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Bible does not condone violence&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war, with the Cross of Jesus&#8230;  While I happen to agree that the message of the New Testament is one of brotherly love, peace, and meekness, the history of Christendom suggests that I am in a distinct minority.  </p>
<p>Spend a moment or ten reflecting on the 30 Years&#8217; War, and on the Spanish conquest of the Americas, and tell me again what Christians believe about organized violence.  </p>
<p>If you take an hour or so to review the history of organized violence in our world, you&#8217;ll find that the Muslim lands do not stand out in any fashion &#8211; whether it be total body count, or prevalence of war, or intensity of violence.  </p>
<p>I submit that the reason so many of our sudden experts in Islam spend so much time wringing their hands about the issue is that American foreign policy, largely (thought certainly not exclusively) with the goal of securing military access to the world&#8217;s most concentrated deposits of fossil fuels, have brought us into conflict with Muslims.  If the residents of the region all converted to Shinto tomorrow, the conflict would not go away.  It&#8217;s important to try to understand Islam; it&#8217;s also important not to use it as an excuse or distraction.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Abraham never sacrificed Isaac or anybody. It was a test of his obedience to God. God never intended him to go through with it.&quot;
 
The test would not have had any value if it had not occurred in a context that made it credible.  One might also point out that, in nearly any legal system, an assault does not require successful physical contact to be completed.  
 
And, while Abraham is the highest profile case, are you seriously contending that we can&#039;t find other examples of blood sacrifice in the Bible?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Abraham never sacrificed Isaac or anybody. It was a test of his obedience to God. God never intended him to go through with it.&#8221;</p>
<p>The test would not have had any value if it had not occurred in a context that made it credible.  One might also point out that, in nearly any legal system, an assault does not require successful physical contact to be completed.  </p>
<p>And, while Abraham is the highest profile case, are you seriously contending that we can&#8217;t find other examples of blood sacrifice in the Bible?</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 18:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Jesus, as God, ought to be loved more than one loves other people.&quot;
 
In other words, both religions demand the same level of devotion, but the difference is that Christianity is right and Islam is wrong.  In order to conclude this, one must accept that Jesus was actually the Creator of the Universe walking around in the form of a man - in short, one must be a Christian.  From any objective perspective, both religions require deference to the founder of the religion - though Islam does not carry it to the lengths of Christianity by demanding actual worship.
 
True, distinguishing between devotion and worship can be a pretty fine line, and that line is not only found in the Jesus/Muhammad comparison.  Many Protestants are a bit uncomfortable with the pedestal on which Catholics place Mary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jesus, as God, ought to be loved more than one loves other people.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, both religions demand the same level of devotion, but the difference is that Christianity is right and Islam is wrong.  In order to conclude this, one must accept that Jesus was actually the Creator of the Universe walking around in the form of a man &#8211; in short, one must be a Christian.  From any objective perspective, both religions require deference to the founder of the religion &#8211; though Islam does not carry it to the lengths of Christianity by demanding actual worship.</p>
<p>True, distinguishing between devotion and worship can be a pretty fine line, and that line is not only found in the Jesus/Muhammad comparison.  Many Protestants are a bit uncomfortable with the pedestal on which Catholics place Mary.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Think about your logic for a moment.  We have multiple organizations employing a similar tactic to achieve similar ends.  In common:  all are used by the weaker side of an asymmetric conflict in order to inflict losses on a conventional military that is otherwise relatively impervious to attack by the conventional  means at the disposal of the attacker.  
 
Occam&#039;s Razor suggests that, in order to understand why people launch suicide attacks, we look for the commonalities - and Islam is not one of those commonalities.

It&#039;s also worth pointing out that the Taliban and other Afghan insurgents did not employ suicide attacks for the first several years of the Afghan War.  What changed?  It certainly wasn&#039;t a change in religion; the Afghans did not suddenly convert to Islam, nor did they suddenly embrace a different version of it.  In fact, there was no change whatsoever in their religious outlook.  What changed was an evaluation of the success of the technique as employed against U.S. forces in Iraq, and a change in the composition of those making the operational decisions.  This strongly suggests that the suicide attacks are not religiously motivated - though they certainly are often religiously &lt;i&gt;justified&lt;/i&gt;.
 
&quot;...but no religious text on earth, to my knowledge, except for Islam&#039;s, encourages people to kill themselves in order to kill non-believers and spread their faith.&quot;
 
Let&#039;s accept, for the sake of argument, that your interpretation is correct, and that Islam is unique in its advocacy of martyrdom.  Since martyrdom itself is not unique to Islam, and we can point to at least two very high-profile instances of it taking place outside of Islam, this again suggests that the religious angle is not decisive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think about your logic for a moment.  We have multiple organizations employing a similar tactic to achieve similar ends.  In common:  all are used by the weaker side of an asymmetric conflict in order to inflict losses on a conventional military that is otherwise relatively impervious to attack by the conventional  means at the disposal of the attacker.  </p>
<p>Occam&#8217;s Razor suggests that, in order to understand why people launch suicide attacks, we look for the commonalities &#8211; and Islam is not one of those commonalities.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also worth pointing out that the Taliban and other Afghan insurgents did not employ suicide attacks for the first several years of the Afghan War.  What changed?  It certainly wasn&#8217;t a change in religion; the Afghans did not suddenly convert to Islam, nor did they suddenly embrace a different version of it.  In fact, there was no change whatsoever in their religious outlook.  What changed was an evaluation of the success of the technique as employed against U.S. forces in Iraq, and a change in the composition of those making the operational decisions.  This strongly suggests that the suicide attacks are not religiously motivated &#8211; though they certainly are often religiously <i>justified</i>.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;but no religious text on earth, to my knowledge, except for Islam&#8217;s, encourages people to kill themselves in order to kill non-believers and spread their faith.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s accept, for the sake of argument, that your interpretation is correct, and that Islam is unique in its advocacy of martyrdom.  Since martyrdom itself is not unique to Islam, and we can point to at least two very high-profile instances of it taking place outside of Islam, this again suggests that the religious angle is not decisive.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;So where&#039;s the statue of limitations?&quot; 

That&#039;s the question I posed Mr. Greenfield.
 
It&#039;s probably worth mentioning that the Jews did &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; rule Palestine through 70 AD; the Jewish Wars were a revolt against long-established Roman rule, not the point of Roman conquest.  

I fully agree that Israel exists and has a right to do so.  That said, given the amount of &quot;whining&quot; on these pages one hears from neoconfederates concerning a much less legitimate war fought far longer ago, it&#039;s unrealistic to expect the victims of injustice to just &quot;stop whining.&quot;  More to the point, the critical question, which is not settled by recognizing Israel&#039;s right to exist, is the status of the Palestinian state.  
 
The primary issue today does not concern Israeli Arabs, but the Palestinians residing in the PA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So where&#8217;s the statue of limitations?&#8221; </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the question I posed Mr. Greenfield.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably worth mentioning that the Jews did <i>not</i> rule Palestine through 70 AD; the Jewish Wars were a revolt against long-established Roman rule, not the point of Roman conquest.  </p>
<p>I fully agree that Israel exists and has a right to do so.  That said, given the amount of &#8220;whining&#8221; on these pages one hears from neoconfederates concerning a much less legitimate war fought far longer ago, it&#8217;s unrealistic to expect the victims of injustice to just &#8220;stop whining.&#8221;  More to the point, the critical question, which is not settled by recognizing Israel&#8217;s right to exist, is the status of the Palestinian state.  </p>
<p>The primary issue today does not concern Israeli Arabs, but the Palestinians residing in the PA.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 17:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Arabs that were evicted from Israel were the ones who attacked the Jews and ended up getting defeated in the process. Those who lived at peace with their Jewish neighbors got to keep their homes.&quot;

An interesting, comforting, self-serving narrative - and demonstrably false.  We know that Irgun, at least, had decided that having Arab civilians living along the Jerusalem - Tel Aviv highway was considered too much of a security risk, and it waged a campaign of terror to drive those civilians away.  The massacre of Dir Yassin occurred well over a month before any Arab states intervened - and, in fact, played a role in their decision to intervene.  

To be fair, Haganah disavowed Dir Yassin, but to try to claim that the only Arabs who were victimized when Israel was created somehow brought it on themselves is a particularly nasty form of blaming the victim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Arabs that were evicted from Israel were the ones who attacked the Jews and ended up getting defeated in the process. Those who lived at peace with their Jewish neighbors got to keep their homes.&#8221;</p>
<p>An interesting, comforting, self-serving narrative &#8211; and demonstrably false.  We know that Irgun, at least, had decided that having Arab civilians living along the Jerusalem &#8211; Tel Aviv highway was considered too much of a security risk, and it waged a campaign of terror to drive those civilians away.  The massacre of Dir Yassin occurred well over a month before any Arab states intervened &#8211; and, in fact, played a role in their decision to intervene.  </p>
<p>To be fair, Haganah disavowed Dir Yassin, but to try to claim that the only Arabs who were victimized when Israel was created somehow brought it on themselves is a particularly nasty form of blaming the victim.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 17:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Make sure you understand the question before engaging the snark.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make sure you understand the question before engaging the snark.</p>
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		<title>By: heapologiatoutimotheou</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, they&#039;re not social clubs that meet for golf.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they&#8217;re not social clubs that meet for golf.</p>
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		<title>By: heapologiatoutimotheou</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heck, if the invaders of America could run the country better than Obama, I might even welcome them.  A smart person would keep his head down and obey the laws of whichever group is running the country if he wants to keep his house, though.

Arabs are fighting Israeli &#039;occupation&#039; because they&#039;re incensed that non-Muslims would dare take back their lands from the Muslim conquerors. It&#039;s why they still lay claim to Spain and Romania, just because a group of Muslim conquerors held those lands for a short time.



I&#039;ll bet an Israeli &#039;occupation&#039; would be a lot more endurable than a sharia-backed Muslim &#039;occupation&#039;. Israel isn&#039;t exactly beheading those who leave Judaism, amputating limbs from thieves, stoning adulterers, or extorting protection money from non-Jews (i.e. jizya).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heck, if the invaders of America could run the country better than Obama, I might even welcome them.  A smart person would keep his head down and obey the laws of whichever group is running the country if he wants to keep his house, though.</p>
<p>Arabs are fighting Israeli &#8216;occupation&#8217; because they&#8217;re incensed that non-Muslims would dare take back their lands from the Muslim conquerors. It&#8217;s why they still lay claim to Spain and Romania, just because a group of Muslim conquerors held those lands for a short time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet an Israeli &#8216;occupation&#8217; would be a lot more endurable than a sharia-backed Muslim &#8216;occupation&#8217;. Israel isn&#8217;t exactly beheading those who leave Judaism, amputating limbs from thieves, stoning adulterers, or extorting protection money from non-Jews (i.e. jizya).</p>
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		<title>By: heapologiatoutimotheou</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A country belongs to whomever is willing and able to govern it.

If I lose my house because I can&#039;t pay the mortgage or because I attack my neighbors and get defeated by the police, the bank or the police are going to evict me and take my &#039;lands&#039;. It wouldn&#039;t matter if my family had owned that house for a thousand years; it&#039;s not mine anymore.

The Arabs that were evicted from Israel were the ones who attacked the Jews and ended up getting defeated in the process.  Those who lived at peace with their Jewish neighbors got to keep their homes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A country belongs to whomever is willing and able to govern it.</p>
<p>If I lose my house because I can&#8217;t pay the mortgage or because I attack my neighbors and get defeated by the police, the bank or the police are going to evict me and take my &#8216;lands&#8217;. It wouldn&#8217;t matter if my family had owned that house for a thousand years; it&#8217;s not mine anymore.</p>
<p>The Arabs that were evicted from Israel were the ones who attacked the Jews and ended up getting defeated in the process.  Those who lived at peace with their Jewish neighbors got to keep their homes.</p>
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