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		<title>By: Paul Centro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Centro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2014 22:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have to live life in the world as it is. As it is, at 51 I know I will not live to collect the social security or medicare that I will have spent a lifetime paying for. Oh, they&#039;ll send a check but they&#039;ll take it back in taxes. Health care as an elder? I foresee travel to a Central American country where I can actually afford to pay cash (and where doctors will actually be accessible.)

Don&#039;t give me the red state/blue state garbage either. The elderly everywhere grab with both fists benefits for which they only paid in pennies on the dollar all the while believing the ponzi scheme math of their elected leaders. 

For now it is more a matter of preventing my savings from being seized outright although I also foresee confiscation through ruinous inflation. The best I can hope for is that the pile is big enough to get me through to death. Funny thing is, I think I&#039;m an optimist. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to live life in the world as it is. As it is, at 51 I know I will not live to collect the social security or medicare that I will have spent a lifetime paying for. Oh, they&#8217;ll send a check but they&#8217;ll take it back in taxes. Health care as an elder? I foresee travel to a Central American country where I can actually afford to pay cash (and where doctors will actually be accessible.)</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t give me the red state/blue state garbage either. The elderly everywhere grab with both fists benefits for which they only paid in pennies on the dollar all the while believing the ponzi scheme math of their elected leaders. </p>
<p>For now it is more a matter of preventing my savings from being seized outright although I also foresee confiscation through ruinous inflation. The best I can hope for is that the pile is big enough to get me through to death. Funny thing is, I think I&#8217;m an optimist. </p>
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		<title>By: Diogenes13</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diogenes13]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2014 04:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[just print it .... look how well the DJIA is doing with it&#039;s newly minted billions every month...  Why work?  Just go down town and sign up for your share of obamabucks! ... worthless money for worthless drones. but not to worry ... worthless money and nothing to buy is right around the corner. GO &quot;O&quot;!!!  GO &quot;O&quot;!!!   Keep them presses humming!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just print it &#8230;. look how well the DJIA is doing with it&#8217;s newly minted billions every month&#8230;  Why work?  Just go down town and sign up for your share of obamabucks! &#8230; worthless money for worthless drones. but not to worry &#8230; worthless money and nothing to buy is right around the corner. GO &#8220;O&#8221;!!!  GO &#8220;O&#8221;!!!   Keep them presses humming!</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie G</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2014 19:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stay in denial.  It works well for many people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stay in denial.  It works well for many people.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie G</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2014 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No.  The responsible thing to do is get on birth control.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  The responsible thing to do is get on birth control.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie G</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2014 18:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He is mixing Ayn Rand with Rand Paul.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is mixing Ayn Rand with Rand Paul.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 19:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You obviously do not understand the Nation&#039;s monetary system very well, for if we all pay our debts, there would not be one single penny left in existence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You obviously do not understand the Nation&#8217;s monetary system very well, for if we all pay our debts, there would not be one single penny left in existence.</p>
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		<title>By: verneoz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[verneoz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2014 22:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remember the Bolshevik revolution of 1917? After that collapse of the Czarist regime...the commies went to work on building their communist/socialist state ran by totalitarians. That is the model these idiots in the WH are recreating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember the Bolshevik revolution of 1917? After that collapse of the Czarist regime&#8230;the commies went to work on building their communist/socialist state ran by totalitarians. That is the model these idiots in the WH are recreating.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Townsend</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randy Townsend]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2014 16:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Drakken: Already doing that, mostly with out-of-country investments. My US stock market exposure is less than 15% of my portfolio (not easy to do, BTW).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Drakken: Already doing that, mostly with out-of-country investments. My US stock market exposure is less than 15% of my portfolio (not easy to do, BTW).</p>
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		<title>By: Bingeman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bingeman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2014 13:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no idea what you have experienced but I think it&#039;s going overboard to refer to all blacks that way(at least,it seems you are making a collective call).
 I know there are violent blacks and I know there are violent whites,yellows,browns,reds and purple people with green polka dots...one of the down sides of humanity is that some humans are animals.
 The blacks I know are all decent,hard-working and truly nice people and are appalled by uncivilized behaviour committed by any race.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea what you have experienced but I think it&#8217;s going overboard to refer to all blacks that way(at least,it seems you are making a collective call).<br />
 I know there are violent blacks and I know there are violent whites,yellows,browns,reds and purple people with green polka dots&#8230;one of the down sides of humanity is that some humans are animals.<br />
 The blacks I know are all decent,hard-working and truly nice people and are appalled by uncivilized behaviour committed by any race.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellman48</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ellman48]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2014 05:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the human body when one organ starts to increase in size it impinges on other organs and impedes their proper functioning, resulting in major illness or even death - unless the body itself increases in size to accommodate the organ expansion.


The growth of the welfare state has the same impact on the nation. It draws to itself more of the nation&#039;s resources, depriving other components of vitality and health. Welfare produces no value to society or the nation. It represents a drain and a burden on national resources.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the human body when one organ starts to increase in size it impinges on other organs and impedes their proper functioning, resulting in major illness or even death &#8211; unless the body itself increases in size to accommodate the organ expansion.</p>
<p>The growth of the welfare state has the same impact on the nation. It draws to itself more of the nation&#8217;s resources, depriving other components of vitality and health. Welfare produces no value to society or the nation. It represents a drain and a burden on national resources.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2014 00:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes comrade. I will report immediately to the camp as directed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes comrade. I will report immediately to the camp as directed.</p>
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		<title>By: blehtastic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blehtastic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2014 00:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All investment accounts should be taxed similarly to IRAs. If you leave your money invested, no taxes, but when you take it out and put it into an account where you can buy goods or services, or take it out as cash, your capital gains should be taxed at the same rate as income.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All investment accounts should be taxed similarly to IRAs. If you leave your money invested, no taxes, but when you take it out and put it into an account where you can buy goods or services, or take it out as cash, your capital gains should be taxed at the same rate as income.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2014 00:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I suppose no matter how nuanced, that view is &quot;obnoxious&quot; if you can&#039;t refute it in a sentence or two.&quot;



I struggled with the issue of &quot;morons&quot; moving out of California and I just couldn&#039;t come up with a rational opposition view. So I got frustrated and slammed the guy.


I know that morons *should* move out of California, but I don&#039;t like the idea so I called him a troll.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I suppose no matter how nuanced, that view is &#8220;obnoxious&#8221; if you can&#8217;t refute it in a sentence or two.&#8221;</p>
<p>I struggled with the issue of &#8220;morons&#8221; moving out of California and I just couldn&#8217;t come up with a rational opposition view. So I got frustrated and slammed the guy.</p>
<p>I know that morons *should* move out of California, but I don&#8217;t like the idea so I called him a troll.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Greenfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2014 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No a baby can&#039;t survive as a separate being. You seem rather unfamiliar with babies.

An adult human with basic life skills can find food and construct shelter. An infant at birth will not survive a day without constant care.

And no a baby is not a fully formed human being. Do you even understand what a baby is?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No a baby can&#8217;t survive as a separate being. You seem rather unfamiliar with babies.</p>
<p>An adult human with basic life skills can find food and construct shelter. An infant at birth will not survive a day without constant care.</p>
<p>And no a baby is not a fully formed human being. Do you even understand what a baby is?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Greenfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2014 23:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Few will admit to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Few will admit to it.</p>
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		<title>By: William_Bradford</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William_Bradford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2014 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. Ben Carson at a dinner speech some years ago in Dallas made the following comment, and I am paraphrasing: let not those in the back of the boat cheer when those in the front of the boat start to sink, for there is but one boat, and what happens to one happens to all, we&#039;re all in the boat together.

Carson is just a brilliant man - a man to be emulated, and admired.  Read his book: Gifted Hands; it&#039;s the quintessential Horatio Alger story - http://www.amazon.com/Gifted-Hands-The-Carson-Story/dp/0310214696]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Ben Carson at a dinner speech some years ago in Dallas made the following comment, and I am paraphrasing: let not those in the back of the boat cheer when those in the front of the boat start to sink, for there is but one boat, and what happens to one happens to all, we&#8217;re all in the boat together.</p>
<p>Carson is just a brilliant man &#8211; a man to be emulated, and admired.  Read his book: Gifted Hands; it&#8217;s the quintessential Horatio Alger story &#8211; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Gifted-Hands-The-Carson-Story/dp/0310214696" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Gifted-Hands-The-Carson-Story/dp/0310214696</a></p>
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		<title>By: BonV.Vant</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BonV.Vant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2014 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have NO SYMPATHY for the aged who depend on SS!!I think the government should cut them off and set up &quot;senior euthanasia stations&quot;, on a strictly voluntary basis that is. Cut off the benefits and let the old walk in as they please. WE OWE THEM NOTHING!!!! THEY ALLOWED THIS!!!! THEY VOTED FOR THIS!! REPEATEDLY!!!!! End SS and medicare and let the old chips fall where they may!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have NO SYMPATHY for the aged who depend on SS!!I think the government should cut them off and set up &#8220;senior euthanasia stations&#8221;, on a strictly voluntary basis that is. Cut off the benefits and let the old walk in as they please. WE OWE THEM NOTHING!!!! THEY ALLOWED THIS!!!! THEY VOTED FOR THIS!! REPEATEDLY!!!!! End SS and medicare and let the old chips fall where they may!</p>
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		<title>By: BonV.Vant</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BonV.Vant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2014 21:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, yes, it is WRONG to hand those dollars over, but it was WRONG to ALLOW the government to do it and to VOTE FOR a party that did it. Clinton magically balanced the budget during his first few years by putting the SS funds in the general fund. Of course it was a total LIE, but people voted for the LIAR. The older generations of the US will get what they deserve. They have voted for liberals and now they will find that at some point the game will be up. At some point, some government will say. LOOK there is NO FUND, it was RAIDED long ago. YOU GET NOTHING and that is JUST TOO DARN BAD! I would not be surprised if private savings and retirement accounts are also raided by the government before we get to that point. Personally, I would recommend setting up geriatric euthanasia stations for the old people who can not deal with a slow lingering death from starvation. 
   IT was WRONG to hand the dollars for the SS funds over to welfare mothers, BUT THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN!!! They have no one to blame but themselves. What are they going to say? &quot;But we were told there was a fund! They lied to us!&quot;. HEY! AMERICANS!! YOU KNEW THEY WERE LYING TO YOU! YOU PLAYED GAMES AND NOW THE GAME IS OVER!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yes, it is WRONG to hand those dollars over, but it was WRONG to ALLOW the government to do it and to VOTE FOR a party that did it. Clinton magically balanced the budget during his first few years by putting the SS funds in the general fund. Of course it was a total LIE, but people voted for the LIAR. The older generations of the US will get what they deserve. They have voted for liberals and now they will find that at some point the game will be up. At some point, some government will say. LOOK there is NO FUND, it was RAIDED long ago. YOU GET NOTHING and that is JUST TOO DARN BAD! I would not be surprised if private savings and retirement accounts are also raided by the government before we get to that point. Personally, I would recommend setting up geriatric euthanasia stations for the old people who can not deal with a slow lingering death from starvation.<br />
   IT was WRONG to hand the dollars for the SS funds over to welfare mothers, BUT THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN!!! They have no one to blame but themselves. What are they going to say? &#8220;But we were told there was a fund! They lied to us!&#8221;. HEY! AMERICANS!! YOU KNEW THEY WERE LYING TO YOU! YOU PLAYED GAMES AND NOW THE GAME IS OVER!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: BonV.Vant</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BonV.Vant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2014 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Go ahead, try to raise the age for benefit eligibility. Do you not understand that when a society is top heavy with elderly people, it is also top heavy with elderly voters? There will be no significant raise in benefit eligibility for as long as we have elections.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go ahead, try to raise the age for benefit eligibility. Do you not understand that when a society is top heavy with elderly people, it is also top heavy with elderly voters? There will be no significant raise in benefit eligibility for as long as we have elections.</p>
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		<title>By: BonV.Vant</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BonV.Vant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2014 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[how will you have a socialist state when there is a collapse? There will not be enough earned and produced to redistribute. What is redistributed will not be enough to go around, when that happens you will have violence and destruction of the infrastructure. At some point those producing will do everything they can to hold onto what little they get, because they have to survive too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how will you have a socialist state when there is a collapse? There will not be enough earned and produced to redistribute. What is redistributed will not be enough to go around, when that happens you will have violence and destruction of the infrastructure. At some point those producing will do everything they can to hold onto what little they get, because they have to survive too.</p>
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