The Democrats Can’t Afford to Lose Israel

184336_10150105990684863_500619862_5962078_1869452_nJewish leftists keep threatening to break up with Israel. They deliver a list of their demands, scribble nasty things about the Jewish State on social media and even write entire books in which they threaten to break up with it for good, but they never actually move on to stalking some other country.

Peter “Crisis of Zionism” Beinart, Jeffrey “Chickens__t” Goldberg act like jealous boyfriends constantly warning Israel that they are about to break up with it.

But the break up never happens. It can’t.

Stalkers use their victims to prop up their shaky identity. Without Israel, Jewish leftists who call themselves liberals become indistinguishable from the generic left.

They can hate Israel, but they can’t let go of it.

Jewish “liberal” support for Israel isn’t fading. The Jewish liberal is becoming less liberal and less Jewish. He is becoming a leftist with a Jewish last name and no amount of Israeli concessions to terrorists will convince Jewish leftists to put their Jewish identity ahead of their leftist politics.

Israel can’t do anything to reverse that trend. Banning more Jews from living in Jerusalem, the latest demand of Obama and J Street, won’t save them from themselves.

This isn’t an Israeli crisis. It’s a crisis of American Jews.

J Street churns out editorials urging Jewish groups to connect with young Jews by bashing Israel. And who better to lecture us on connecting with Jewish youth than an astroturfed organization backed by an 84-year-old Nazi collaborator who called his own mother a Jewish anti-Semite.

The left’s hatred for Israel predated its existence. The left doesn’t hate Israel because of its policies. It hates Jews.

“What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money,” Marx said.

“The Jew is the enemy of the human race. One must send this race back to Asia or exterminate it,” said Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, the Socialist economist and “Father of Anarchism.”

“Until they are prepared to assimilate and abandon the Chosen People idea altogether, their troubles are bound to intensify,” H.G. Wells said, as the Holocaust was underway.

“When we speak of Jews, we mean the Jewish spirit, the spirit of profit, of lucre, of gain, the spirit of commerce,” said Pierre Leroux, who coined the term “Socialism.”

“Every government having regard to good morals ought to repress the Jews,” said Charles Fourier, who coined the term “Feminism.”

None of these thought leaders of the left had ever seen an Israeli soldier in the West Bank.

Political extremism aligns with anti-Semitism. As American liberals become leftists, they are more likely to become anti-Semitic. A quick look at Europe shows us that this is true. There is nothing except reason and decency that prevents Jews from being anti-Semites and reason and decency are the first casualties of the political extremism of the left.

Marx could denounce Jews as the embodiment of filthy capitalism because he did not have a Jewish identity. There are plenty of Marx’s out there smashing the windows of Jewish stores, chanting hate outside synagogues and supporting genocidal terrorists despite their facial features or genetic markers.

The fake liberal Zionists warning Israel that it’s alienating them are selling the myth of a Jewish liberalism that will turn anti-Israel and yet go on existing.

It’s an empty threat because the demographics are against them.

In the last election, Jewish support in New York City for Obama was down to 51 percent. The odds that the city’s growing Orthodox population, most of whom have relatives living in Jerusalem, will join in with the Obama cry of “Jews get out of Jerusalem” is somewhere between zero and zip.

Why hasn’t Obama openly and vocally turned on Israel instead of leaking nasty quotes to his media pals? Why are the phone booths filled with spurned liberal Zionists, who are neither liberal nor Zionists, calling up Israel and breathing heavily into the phone before passing on something nasty that some anonymous person in the White House supposedly said.

The political connection between Jews and the Democratic Party has become tenuous over the years. Unlike other minorities, Democrats don’t actually meet the needs of the Jewish community. Their agenda of high taxes punishes Jews financially. Their hostility to religion has made it harder for Jewish families to provide a religious education for their children.

They plow plenty of money into non-profits with a Jewish label, but those organizations mostly benefit the same urban minority populations and leftist staffers as other leftist non-profits.

Subtract Israel from the equation and the linkage between Jews and the Democratic Party suddenly becomes very shaky. Democrats have a basic rule of thumb. They mention Martin Luther King at black events, Israel at Jewish events and immigration at Latino events.

That’s why the Democratic Party’s political establishment frantically warns against making Israel into a partisan issue. The last DNC convention showed that its delegates hate the Jewish State, but it can’t allow Israel to become a Republican issue because then it loses its only tangibly Jewish position.

Subtract Israel and the Democratic Party is reduced to making Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s argument that abortion is a fundamental Jewish issue. That may still play in her district, but Jewish support for abortion has been steadily falling. Last year a poll in New York showed that nearly as many Jews as White Catholics wanted to make abortion illegal.

Without Israel, the Democratic Party’s appeal to Jews becomes a hard litmus test over increasingly controversial social issues even as the demographics favor socially conservative Jewish communities.

The Democratic Party and its leftist hag riders want to avoid a crackup like that at all costs. Obama may secretly threaten and disparage Israel, he may implement flight bans and weapons cutoffs and sell out Israel at the United Nations, but a public break risks fragmenting his own political base.

The ranks of the Jewish left will continue to expand. New generations with weaker Jewish identities who have been indoctrinated on hatefilled campuses will be much less likely to support Israel. But this is a reality, that like leftist and Muslim anti-Semitism, exists entirely apart from anything that Israel does.

The American Jewish consensus is coming apart. American Jews, like Americans in general, are splitting into a left and a right. But the demographics of the Jewish left have no staying power when it comes to having children or staying Jewish. The left got ahead of the problem nationally by changing the country’s demographics, but they can’t turn millions of illegal aliens Jewish the way that they can amnesty them.

This isn’t a crisis of Zionism. It’s a crisis facing American Jews.

Beinart, Goldberg and the other jealous boyfriends threatening the Jewish State have no cards to play. The larger social trends at work in Israel and America will not be altered by what happens in the West Bank. Their real argument is not with Israelis, but with Americans.

American Jewry is refighting many of the same battles that tore apart Russian Jews along the fault lines of tradition, religion, socialism and radical social change. That struggle climaxed with the Jewish left’s repression and mass murder of Russian Jews under the USSR before the Communist butchers of the Jewish Section who had shut down synagogues and murdered Rabbis were themselves put down.

Zionism is one of the issues at stake in the battle between traditional Jews and the radical left, but it’s not the only issue. And Israel can’t determine the outcome of that battle. Only American Jews can.

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  • Daniel L. Levy

    Well yes, but it’d still be good to remember that Reform Judaism started out with the denial of the ethnic-national dimension of Judaism, and the rejection of the centrality of Jerusalem. There’s a reason why Reform’s places of worship are called “temples” rather than “synagogues”.
    For rather fascinating historical reasons, in a young, immense pioneering country where the stringent conditions of Jewish religious practice could seldom be met, Reform stands out as a central definer of American Judaism.
    Since it is, in fact, a new religion evolving in a way that is rather remindful of the inception of Christianity 20 centuries ago, and since it is consistently shedding its last remnants of ethnic identity through inclusiveness and exogamy, I am confused, as an Israeli, by our naive assumption that American Jews should care for, or be even interested in what happens to a far-away, Orthodox, illiberal and heavily Sepharadic Jewish community that happens to believe in Jewish national self-determination.
    Better let bygones be bygones.

    • ed_in_tx

      It seems to really bother you that you live in a country which is dominated by an “…Orthodox, illiberal and heavily Sepharidc Jewish community…”, with what appears, from comments on other topics, to be some emphasis on “Orthodox” and “illiberal”.

      • Daniel L. Levy

        No it does not. Like many Israelis, I do have issues with the rabbinical bureaucracy and the appearance, for the second time in Jewish history, of a taxpayer money-funded clergy, but I am at peace with the plurality of my compatriots who lead their lives according to the principles of what is called, in the US, Jewish Orthodoxy. It is indeed illiberal in the sense that it accords no importance to the right to abortion or gay marriage, but its opposition to these is a complete non-issue in the Israeli political discourse. We have more pressing concerns than these, and we tend to eschew divisiveness.

    • zzz05

      Israel is Orthodox?
      Israeli official Jewish religion is Orthodox, Israelis in total are about as orthodox as the audience at a Friars’ Club roast.
      The difference between Israel and the US is that in Israel you are officially Orthodox, or nonpracticing; in America you can find a niche in between those two.

  • Aer O’Head

    Delusional and entirely divorced from reality!

    • UCSPanther

      Like yourself.

      Happy eternal nakba…

    • wildjew

      How so? I think this statement is right on the mark:

      “They mention Martin Luther King at black events, Israel at Jewish events and immigration at Latino events.

      “That’s why the Democratic Party’s political establishment frantically warns against making Israel into a partisan issue. The last DNC convention showed that its delegates hate the Jewish State, but it can’t allow Israel to become a Republican issue because then it loses its only tangibly Jewish position….”

      Why do Democratic party leaders frantically warn against making Israel into a partisan issue when making Israel into a partisan issue is generally good for Israel’s security?

  • objectivefactsmatter

    Losers that envy successful people always sooner or later find it useful to blame the Jews. This goes way back, but the weird thing is that secularism brought on even bigger haters than all but the worst of the bigoted Christians. These people seem forever outraged that a civilization was built on Biblical principals (more or less).

    Jews are the scapegoats for the rest of the world. I guess when American Jews show hatred towards Israel they’re trying to “assimilate” in a sense. Like cutting a deal somehow. ‘We’re not Jews, we’re Hollywood (or whatever) liberals.’ It does no good. The only thing that works is paying the jizya and even that won’t last forever.

    • CosmotKat

      As a Christian man of the 21st century, an Israel supporter, and an admirer of the Jewish people (while despising the politics of Left wing Jews) I find this comment offensive. You are living in the past and harboring your own hate.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        How so? Truth is hateful? I’m explaining the origins of certain kinds of hate. I’m not propagating hate.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        Are you assuming that I’m Jewish? Read enough history and philosophy and you won’t jump so quickly to false conclusions about how every single person forms their opinions.

        • CosmotKat

          I assume nothing. All but the worst of the bigoted Christian? To me that’s hate 21st century style..

          • objectivefactsmatter

            You think there have never been any bigoted Christians? Are you a collectivist that read my statement as all Christians are the worst? I’m talking about actual bigoted Christians in history. They’re only the worst examples because they’re so well documented, but there you go. And they weren’t following the Bible anyway, but they thought they were following Christian doctrine.

            You can’t reconcile anything without a willingness to acknowledge relevant truths.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        Check this out if you have time and then maybe we can have a fruitful conversation without you assuming any of these opinions are based on purely personal views.

        https://www.youtube.Com/watch?v=a2C90l7YlT8

        • CosmotKat

          Unfortunately, when I replied to your comment this piece of your commentary was meant to be cited in quotes as the reason for my admonition, but did not past and I did not notice:

          “but the weird thing is that secularism brought on even bigger haters than all but the worst of the bigoted Christians.”
          To me the “worst of the bigoted Christians” was incendiary. I will, when time permits, listen….however; the reason I come to this site is for reasoned and well written essays and Daniel is one of my favorites. I am also a historian and there many ways you can use history to satisfy innate hate.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            There’s a 2000 year history to cull from and I’m sure you know that Christianity sprang from Judea. If discussing history is incendiary, does that make us all haters from wanting to understand it? Or are we obligated to rewrite it to serve “progressive” ends?

            We’ve all got to learn to be less sensitive and more fact-oriented.

            There’s another video you can check out as a primer called…shoot. Let me go find it.

          • CosmotKat

            What is seldom discussed is the Jewish treatment of Christians before the faith was fully recognized across the Roman Empire in their early years forming a cohesive dogma agreeable to all. So, yes, I agree there are many ways that we can use history to foment hate and oppression by all faiths toward one another, but it seems the Jewish people dwell on what has happened to them and not what they caused or brought on themselves. Where is the outcry for the genocide of Christians in Muslim lands….not much. I am just saying your comment seemed inflammatory and needn’t be, but your explanations are understood.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Here’s an excellent primer. It’s probably not “fair” to Christianity itself. But you should learn to understand critical views and then parse when they’re legitimate. That’s the best way how to defend ideas that are legitimate when they’re under attack.

            The Longest Hatred: A Revealing History of Anti Semitism (1991) – 1. From the Cross to the Swastika

            https://www.youtube.Com/watch?v=PPVtX4HFc78

            Here’s the book.
            http://www.amazon.Com/Antisemitism-Longest-Robert-Solomon-Wistrich/dp/0805210148

            It’s probably more important than the first link I gave you. However, both are very useful if you want to understand both history and the process of analyzing how philosophy and history merge. This video itself is slightly dumbed down but I think it’s still very useful. You can then go to the book if you want to. The other URL is more useful for understanding the modern left and the process of dissecting how demagogues use history and philosophy to create their revised views of history and create their malicious Utopian visions of the future.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “I am also a historian and there many ways you can use history to satisfy innate hate.”

            I’m against that. But there are haters in history too. So we have to deal with it.

  • wildjew

    Daniel, I don’t know how Democrats can erase this stain. For me, they will forever be the anti-Semitic, racist party of Barack Obama. This is the man they attached themselves to; a dangerous ideologue who sat in a racist church for twenty years absorbing anti-American, anti-Semitic, racist sermons.

    • Spinoneone

      The only other group that approached the level of Jews voting for Obama and traditionally voting for Democrats is African-Americans. The Jews do it because their traditional view of life is communitarian/socialist while the African-Americans do so based on ethnicity and the fact that the Dems seem to give them more goodies.

      • wildjew

        I like to post on The Jewish Daily Forward. You cannot get much more left-leaning I suppose than that publication. I get plenty of negative votes on my posts about Israel, Obama, etc. I am thankful there are a handful of conservatives reading and posting on the site. Left-leaning Jewish readers there, genuinely believe Israel is oppressing and humiliating the Palestinians without cause. If only Israel gave them a state there would be peace. They can see a connection between criticism of Islam and historic anti-Semtism which they believe likewise generalizes about an entire people or faith. These people will not tolerate any legitimate criticism of Barack Obama, though I do detect some discomfort with some of the things he said and done to Israel. It is a very difficult task persuading left-leaning fellow Jews.

        • DVG

          There can be no accommodating Palestinians or muslums in general for as long as they hold on to islam. It is an ideology born of violence and committed to violence to achieve it’s purpose of ruling the world. Sooner or later the world will come to appreciate this fact. The damage needed for this to pass won’t be pleasant.

          • cree

            Agreed. The growing Islamic threat dictated by its goal will/does entail guerrilla warfare nearly everywhere on the planet. The threat to go more conventional or nuclear is possible. Your “won’t be pleasant” should unite or force non-muslim countries to counter. Its turning into real, it’s them or us. Any appeasement in my opinion won’t be better than victory. We meet the clash of civilizations.

          • zzz05

            “the clash of civilizations” was the excuse why the majority of my relatives were murdered 70 years ago, before i was born.
            Oh, it’s different this time, this time we’ve got the enemies of civilization identified correctly. And it’s not the Jews, phew.

          • cree

            Were the murderers of your relatives their enemy or not? You sir have enemies whether you accept that or not. Some say “never again”; some say peace but get murdered anyway.

            If you are saying, “wouldn’t we all be better off if we got along?”, I’d agree, the more so the better. However, man’s nature makes a utopian world-wide peace, folly; it will never happen. Let’s will the next murderer not to do it, won’t work. Let’s will the muslims hate for Israel and the West to stop their world domination goal. War might stop it or allah saying stop; maybe just the right Obama appeasing diplomacy? What stopped the murderers of your relatives?

          • zzz05

            And that post explains why Jews whose outlook is similar to mine are repelled by conservatism.
            (I suppose conservatives need it explained to them that once a party/administration/religion/ethnic group, whatever gets into deciding which other religion or ethnicity is acceptable, that puts the acceptability of Jews on a provisional basis. Too bad, we used to learn that stuff in school, for those who couldn’t work it out for themselves.)

        • zzz05

          Well, what exactly has he done that I’d be discomforted by, again?
          He says lots of stuff, but talk is cheap for politicians, on both sides of the aisle.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Nothing that Rev. Wrights eager fanboi BHO can say would cause you discomfort.

        • Larry Larkin

          There is no educating people who are determined to be willfully ignorant.
          And willful ignorance is the favored state of the leftard mindset. No matter how clearly you set out the facts, or how many facts you bring to the table, if those facts don’t fit The Narrative they are ignored.

          Basically, you can lead a leftard to knowledge, but you can’t make them think.

          • wildjew

            There have got to be millions of these people because I see them everywhere, all over these sites. But it is worse than ignorance, they are full of hate for Israel, for Israel’s prime minister. These people could have participated in the Final Solution they hate the Jewish people so much and they all support Barack Obama.

      • carpe diem 36

        Dems seem to give them more goodies.This is it!! they are not loyal or principled, they got goodies!

        • zzz05

          I don’t suppose the reason some Jews don’t like conservatism is because of the tendency to regard all muslims as enemies of civilization, and all blacks as shiftless freeloaders? no, it must be because all nonconservative jews are antisemites.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Worst Ever?

            Your avatar is broken. It should have a picture of dementia dhimmi carter.

      • Atikva

        There are no African-Americans, just Americans.

    • info warrior

      Funny, anti-semites see the Democratic Party as the party of Jews, under Jewish control. Many believe Obama himself is controlled by shadowy Jewish puppet masters like Saul Alinsky and George Soros.

      • wildjew

        Yes, I have seen these comments on left-leaning news sites.

        • info warrior

          Left sites know what Obama is not controlled by the Jews, but by corporations. Fear of Jewish control comes from the right wing, and websites like Stormfront and TV channels like FOX News.

          • wildjew

            I’ve not seen any of this (Jewish control) on Fox News. Not yet. Can you provide a few examples. You call Stormfront right wing. I am not sure about that. Maybe. We know authors / scholars characterize fascism (especially the German brand) as a far right political movement. I remain dubious. Na zism looks like a hybrid that borrowed from both the left and the right. It was a parasite that attached itself to the politial right in Germany, true. That is why political movements need to be ever vigilant. That is why I worry about libertarian-leaning loons (Ron and Rand Paul) supporters who are trying to gain control of the Republican party. Libertarianism is not conservatism.

          • info warrior

            Google: Glenn Beck Soros Conspiracy. and FYI, Stormfront is so rightwing they believe Obama is a Communist. Basically they are neonazis.

            And you are right, libertarianism is pretty much the opposite of conservatism. Libertarianism is an extreme form of liberalism that arose out of the hippie movement in the 1970s with Charles Murray.

          • wildjew

            I am not a follower of Glenn Beck. I did see reports about his Soros Conspiracy theories. Maybe among other reasons, that is why Fox News pushed him out.
            I saw he interviewed Ron Paul in the past even as he said nice things about Israel. From what I could ascertain when Romney was the Republican nominee, his (and Beck’s) church is weak on its support for Israel.

            I don’t trust Bill O’Reilly. I worry about most any devout Catholic (I know there are several who work for Fox News) because of the Catholic Church’s terrible, bloody record with the Jews which still lingers today. I watch Fox News among other programs because Fox News is doing critical reporting on this administration. If a Republican reaches the White House in 2016 I might watch CNN who (like Fox is critical of of Obama) will be critical of the Republican president.

          • https://twitter.com/BlissTabitha Tabitha Bliss

            Just ignore him. He’s a lying troll & not even worth the effort.

          • billobillo54

            Hey WJ: Ask :infowarrior” what his position on Zionism is. I was at a meeting of Christians United For Israel at a Midwestern Jesuit University (half of the audience were Muslims who hate Israel) and made a profession of my faith in Zionism based on the God of Israel. I was ridiculed by the speaker, a former Israeli diplomat who was making the case for Israel from purely historical, secularist, legal and geopolitical grounds. A few Jews afterward thanked me. I knew them because I saw them at a fundraiser at a local synagogue for Kedimum in Judah/Samaria. My point is this: There is no Israel without Zionism.

          • wildjew

            I think you just did ask him what his position on Zionism is.

          • billobillo54

            The question was rhetorical.

          • wildjew

            Right. Since you brought up CUFI, why do Pastor Hagee and CUFI officers support dividing the land of Israel? Why do they support the establishment of a Muslim-enemy state in the Holy Land?

          • billobillo54

            If they indeed do, my guess it is due to the acquiescence to the Two State Solution by the Israeli government and specifically Prime Minister Netanyahu. I am adamantly opposed to the Two State Solution, due to God’s statement in Joel 3:2, the entire witness of Scripture, and the historical and geopolitical fact of Israel’s right to the Land. I’m sure you have read Caroline Glick’s book. I have and am impressed with the truth of her message.

          • cree

            Beck is not weak on support for Israel. As for the Mormon church; I don’t know.

            If Romney was a two-state proponent by forcing Israel to concede more, he would be anti-Israel. If he understands Abbas/Hamas won’t except Israel as the second state, he would be pro-Israel. Not sure he articulated exactly where he stood.

          • wildjew

            Romney sternly rebuked Speaker Gingrich in the December 10, 2011 (Republican) Iowa debate for saying the Palestinians are terrorists and an invented people. Romney called Gingrich a “bomb-thrower.” Romney sent his surrogate, Senator Jim Talent to fight conservative Christian delegates on our national platform writing committee for the Palestinian Muslim cause, August 2012. Does that make Romney pro or anti-Israel in your view?

          • cree

            A misguided fool. Didn’t make it for that debate. Thanks, the info. Will matter if Rove wants Romney again and Romney changes his mind about running. Also, the info makes me feel better for hating having to vote for the RINO.

            We now have the 2010 and 14 elections sending our message; let’s hope the establishment right figures it out. Duh; our work’s not over.

          • ed_in_tx

            He does not understand the NSDAP (National Socialist German Worker’s Party), aka Nazis were Socialists. They were of what we view as the political Left, not the Right.

            But he’s a Liberal who believes the crap he reads on Koz.

          • zzz05

            that certainly explains why they were supported by wealthy industrialists, old nobility, etc. you know how those types are always commies.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            You think that there are no wealthy Socialists comrade?

          • zzz05

            Among 1930s German nobility and industrialists? Oh yes I do indeed.
            Provide the name of one, should you feel so moved.

    • zzz05

      Yeah, he’s another Karl Marx there. The Cubans are building statues of him I hear.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Better to erect a statue of Groucho than karl in the Workers Paradise.

  • jzsnake

    I really think it’s stretching it to lump Goldberg with Beinhart. And yes, I disagree with Goldberg overwhelmingly before all the nasty comments start.

    • wildjew

      I have Beinhart’s book, “The Crisis of Zionism.” I am not a regular reader of Jeffrey Goldberg’s Atlantic columns. How do you think these two men differ on Israel?

      • jzsnake

        Hey wildjew, I am probably way over my head in this conversation but Beinhart reminds me of the typical J Street response which starts out “We are pro-Israel” and then the rest of the statement is a one side diatribe against Israel. Whereas Goldberg will some times come out swinging for Israel no holds barred. BTW, in case you did not know, Goldberg did serve in the IDF which in my simplistic view earns in some brownie points.

        • wildjew

          Thanks.

    • Daniel_Greenfield

      Lately Goldberg is getting there.

  • info warrior

    Democrats will continue to support Israel, as will Republicans. The last President who criticized Israeli policy was Reagan.

    • wildjew

      Why do you say the last president who criticized Israeli policy was Reagan? James Baker III was very critical of Israeli policy, as were Colin Powell and Condolezza Rice, as was Hillary Clinton (viciously critical) and John Kerry who looks more and more like a Jew-hater by the day.

      • info warrior

        yah, tell that to a Jew. he got over 70% of the Jewish vote in 2004. The main reason US Jews vote Democrat is because of their support for Israel.

        • wildjew

          You are not well informed. Admit it. What you just wrote is nonsense. There are polls of American Jewish political opinion. Israel is far down the list in terms of priorities compared to domestic issues. If you want to argue Jews vote Democrat because many fear the “religious right” that is an important component of the Republican party, you might have a case. There is no way an American Jew could put Israel first and then go out and vote for this man who sat in a racist / anti-Semitic church for twenty years.

          • info warrior

            I’ve known Jews all of my life, trust me, they do pay attention to US-Israeli relations and will vote lesser of two evils on that.

            As for Obama’s church in Chicago, it is a liberal church, mixed race and is open to any Jews who want to hear sermons.

            Seems you are the one who is not informed.

          • wildjew

            Jeremiah Wright was open to any Jew who wanted to hear his anti-Israel, anti-Semitic, anti-American ravings. How could Obama listen to all that unless he is anti-Semitic, anti-American himself? You are talking to a Republican who did not vote to re-elect George W. Bush in 2004 because of his turn against Israel after the 9/11/2001 attacks. How much more should a pro-Israel American Jew lose faith and confidence in Barack Obama considering what he has said and done to Israel and Israel’s prime minister, well-documented by Daniel Greenfield and others over recent years?

          • info warrior

            And yet Obama was awarded the highest civilian medal by Israel, their Presidential Medal of Distinction. He has very close ties to Israel and meets with Netanyahu several times a year.

            And by the way, Reverend Wright is critical of the US government and says Obama’s wars are crimes against humanity. That actually makes him PRO-Amnerica.

            Seriously, grow a brain

          • Daniel_Greenfield

            Countries hand out meaningless medals all the time.

            Obama handed out plenty of Presidential Medals. If you think that means something, you’re naive.

          • info warrior

            Israel’s Presidential Medal of Distinction is not meaningless.

          • Atikva

            In this case, about as meaningful as the Nobel Prize awarded to the same recipient.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I’d prefer a Free car wash to the low bar Nobel Peace Prize.

            Obama was awarded a Nobel Peace Prize shortly after being elected US President – BEFORE he did anything to warrant winning such a prize.

            Gilding the Lily.

          • Daniel_Greenfield

            No it’s worthless.

            It’s a lame copy of the French Legion of Honor, whose running joke was that it was given out to everyone. But the Medal of Freedom here is also another lame copy of the Legion.

          • Daniel_Greenfield

            Wright was a vicious racist who slurred multiple groups including Jews and Italians.

          • info warrior

            No, he is a liberal who encourages race mixing in his church. He has performed mixed race marriages. Maybe you were given some out-of-context quotes, or read one of those viral emails that have fake quotes from politicians and celebrities?

          • Daniel_Greenfield

            He’s an ex-Muslim with close ties to Louie Farrakhan.

            If you think that’s a liberal, it says a lot about you.

          • zzz05

            But but but….
            you guys are telling us that ex-Muslims are sentenced to die.
            How could he have close ties to Louie Farrakhan? Isn’t Farrakhan required by his religion to kill him?
            This is why I don’t subscribe to the rightwing beliefs; I lack the capacity to believe two completely opposite things at the same time, no matter how useful that is to support your biases.

          • Daniel_Greenfield

            Farrakhan is hardly conventional Islam to begin with. Plenty of NOI people have been killed though over the years, but I don’t believe Wright was ever NOI.

            Now if you’re finished admiring yourself…

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            malcolm x was killed by farraklans noi.

            Power Struggle.

          • zzz05

            kind of like the people here slur Muslims?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            When Muslims (Fascist iran), al qada, muslim brotherhood, wahabbis, salifis, isis call for Death to America, sluring Muslims is appropriate.

          • zzz05

            And when Christians call for Death to America, we just say they’re not really Christians.

          • meggy8868

            And got a big foot in his face every time. And meanwhile imports the Muslim Brotherhood into his HS, praises Morsi, demands the release of Morsi, bows to the Saudis? His first speech is on behalf of Islam, the mortal enemy of Israel and Western Civ. How does all of that love of everything Islamic square with supporting Israel?

          • info warrior

            Actually, Obama demanded that Morsi be taken out. Obama initially showed support for him in Egypt, after he won the election. The Egyptian MB were barred from the white house as soon as Morsi started to badmouth Israel. Obama’s relation ship with Islam is through war. He is waging a war on Sunni Islam. He’s even used drones to kill American-Muslims in Yemen. This idea that he is somehow pro-Islamic is stupid.

          • meggy8868

            He demanded Morsi be released from prison. Read Andrew C McCarthy’s The Grand Jihad for info on the infiltration of the M Brotherhood into gov. Also you must not ignore the implementation of Arab “Spring” to depose dictators which ushered in chaos and Islamic Jihadis who were held in a kind of check before. McCarthy’s book Spring Fever analyses all of these pro-Islamic events Of the Obama reign. Of course Islamics are against Islamics who they consider not pure enough. Your illustrations are ? ? There is only One Islam, and many names for the same goal and many who vie for supremecy. “A rose by any other name still smells the same.” Thank you Gertrude.

          • info warrior

            I’ve heard and read all kinds of conspiracy theories regarding Obama being a secret Islamist collaborator, including some of what McCarthy claims. But, believe it if you wish.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Muslims killing Muslims? Old story.

            See ISIS.

          • Atikva

            Thanks for the good laugh, I knew there were some weirdos in your ranks, but you are a special one. Nothing, absolutely nothing of what you have said makes any sense.

          • info warrior

            If you think Bush turned against Israel, you really are clueless. Until Obama came long, the Bush admin was Israel’s greatest ally. I’m not saying it’s a bad thing, but it is what it is.. if you think Obama and Bush were anti-Israel then you should educate yourself.

          • meggy8868

            Helllooo? Anyone in there? The Roadmap?

          • zzz05

            Well I would have said Bush was Iran’s greatest ally, but you go ahead and believe what you want to.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            And that’s why Fascist iran holds weekly “death to America” Nuremberg style rallies.

          • zzz05

            The “Thanks for Taking Out Saddam” rallies were poorly attended.

          • dwayne roberson

            What did Bush do?

          • meggy8868

            That church was a black liberation theology church which is little more than a disguise for Black Muslims, very close ties with Black Muslim theology. It might be open to jews, but who would sit through for a minute. Not a Christian, I will tell you that!

          • zzz05

            michelle’s cousin is a rabbi.
            http://forward.com/articles/14121/michelle-obama-has-a-rabbi-in-her-family-/

            obama wears a yarmulke
            http://www.crescentcityjewishnews.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Obama-in-Israel-2008.jpg

            He went to Harvard Law.

            His name is Barack, for godsake.

            The man’s not a secret Muslim, he’s a secret Jew.

          • info warrior

            That’s what I have always suspected. He also hosts Seder dinner every year at the White House. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but he should be more open about his religious beliefs if he is going to be such a religious president.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM
          • zzz05
          • Atikva

            Mr. Obama is not too particular about whatever religious
            symbols he wears at one moment or another, it depends on the place and circumstances. The only thing I haven’t found yet is a picture of him wearing a cross, but he does permanently wear a ring engraved with “There is no god except Allah” in Arabic. And as to his religious preference, one just has to listen to him to find out which it is.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrJQ8_vGOuI

            And as to Harvard, Mr. Obama would never have set foot in its campus if he has not been “recommended” by the Saudi royal family.

          • Debbie G

            Jews don’t fear the “religious right” because of their religious beliefs, they fear conservatism. There has been nothing but overwhelming support for Israel by Christians.

        • Debbie G

          As Mr. Greenfield states, the main reason US Jews vote Democrat is because their leftism overrides their Jewishness. If, as you say, the main reason is to support Israel, why do so many of them favor a two-state solution?

          • info warrior

            Greenfield is a right winged nutbag, who wants to associate Jews with leftism. Two state solution was the product of the Oslo Accords, supported by Israel, the PLO and America. It’s about creating two states, not one.

          • Debbie G

            The Palestinians aren’t too great about living up to contracts.

          • meggy8868

            And the Palestinians did not keep a single promise of the Camp David Accords, the Oslo Accords, or the Road Map, all of which were disasters for Israel. Meanwhile their propaganda machine was alive and well!!!!

          • wildjew

            Oslo Accords were supported by some Israelis and Israelis leaders. Others warned it would be a catastrophe. And it was a catastrophe.

          • info warrior

            It was never implemented. FYI.

          • wildjew

            It was implemented? Maybe you mean it was not fully implemented to “final status” arrangements. How many thousands of Jews would you allow to be murdered and maimed by Arafat-supported Palestinian suicide bombings before you would discontinue working with Arafat’s Palestinian Authority were you Israel’s prime minister?

          • Atikva

            Right, and why not? Because Arafat walked out of the negotiation table without an explanation before ratifying the agreement.

            Because the hate of Israel and the Jews codified in the Khartoum Resolutions of September 1967 (“NO peace with Israel, NO recognition of Israel, NO negotiations with it”) has been so successfully ingrained into the muslim mobs by their leaders that these sorcerer’s apprentices would be immediately slain – like King Abdullah I of Jordan, Riad al Solh in Lebanon or Anwar Sadat in Egypt – if they would even pretend to recognize Israel. Arafat knew that he would be dead before the ink would have dried on the document.

          • zzz05

            so…
            “oslo accords were a disaster”
            “but they were never implemented”
            “yes, because of Arafat”
            and that seems like a logical argument?

          • Atikva

            I didn’t say they were a disaster and I didn’t affirm either that were never implemented, Infowarrior did, and this time he was right.

            As to Arafat’s responsibility for abandoning the whole project, it was acknowledged by none other than President
            Carter at the time.

            No argument here, just a few facts.

          • info warrior

            I’m not defending Arafat, there’s aholes in both camps.

          • Atikva

            Yes, but there is only one camp that deserves to survive.

          • info warrior

            Maybe the Palis should move to Sweden, they’d have a much higher standard of living.

          • Debbie G

            As opposed to moving to an Arab country where they belong? Oh wait, they aren’t wanted there either.

          • Atikva

            They are not doing so bad now, thanks to our and the Europeans taxpayers money.

          • bigjulie

            Naïve! Muslims are sworn to erase Jews from the face of the Earth! Another “state” on Israel’s border is just another place for burrowing rats to dig into Israel in order to further conduct their mission of erasure!

          • zzz05

            missed their chance over the past 1500 years, did they? were they worried that the Europeans would stop trying to erase Jews from the face of the earth through the middle ages to tell the Muslims they couldn’t do that?

        • Daniel_Greenfield

          He got 70 percent in Palm Beach. The exit polls of the Jewish vote largely focused on Florida.

      • info warrior

        Expressing dissatisfaction in how the two-state solution is progressing is not being “viciously critical”.,

        • wildjew

          Sorry, you are mistaken. Politicians, both Republicans and Democrats, who support the two state solution (whether it is conscious or not) support Israel’s obliteration. A Palestinian state in the “West Bank” (Judea, Samaria), Gaza, Jerusalem will present a mortal threat to Israel. Palestinian genocidal intentions are very open. They are not hidden.

          • info warrior

            Tell that to Netanyahu, he supports it as well (at least in his words).

          • zzz05

            as did sharon.

        • Atikva

          There never was, is not and never will be a “two state” solution. Gosh, how can you be so uninformed?

          • info warrior

            There could be if there was enough political will to follow through.

          • Atikva

            No there couldn’t. You are way beyond the pale. With more warriors like you, your side is going to loose the war, guaranteed.

    • Daniel_Greenfield

      Clinton criticized Israel quite a bit. He’s still at it.

    • Atikva

      I think you need to update your information.

      • meggy8868

        Oh yes, indeed!

  • meggy8868

    I wish Greenfield would debate Noam Chomsky. I was horrified at my young Minnesotan nephew “liking” a Chomsky article that called American the world’s greatest “terrorist” nation.

    • meggy8868

      And all of the replies exhibited the same brainwashing.

      • Daniel_Greenfield

        Academia does its dirty work well

  • Hard Little Machine

    The Dems will abandon the Jews even if the Jews don’t abandon them. No doubt everything that ever went wrong in these elections will be chalked up to ‘outsiders and Jewish interests’. I can hear Chris Matthews saying it even now.

    • Ben-Lavi

      A scenario along these lines is not too far off.

  • Debbie G

    There is a frequently asked question by many on conservative blogs, namely, “Why do Jews vote Democrat?” I think this article gives a precise answer to the question, and I will forward it to anyone who needs the answer. Thank you, Mr. Greenfield.

    • Daniel_Greenfield

      The actual answer to the question is very much on the complicated side since it requires breaking down the changing Jewish community and the changing Republican and Democratic parties over the last 100 years.

      But I do know that people want a shorter answer than doesn’t involve an extended essay.

      • mtnhikerdude

        I have a cap I wear that says Italia . When asked about it I say ,My cap says Italia . My heart says America” .
        A friend of mine said years ago , “Israel is the canary in the minefield of Terrorism ” .

      • rebaaron

        American Jews are assimilating, just as Soviet Jews did, and German Jews, and Greek Jews etc. Jews have assimilated all through the ages. Assimilate is such a muscular verb It sounds like they are doing something, going somewhere. So where are the tens of millions of Jews who assimilated over the thousands of years of our history. Nowhere. Oblivion. So my parting words to the American Jews who don’t want to be Jews are, Bon Voyage on your trip to oblivion. You’ll never be seen or heard from again. For you meaning in life boils down to a new iPhone.

        • dwayne roberson

          Or will there be a global pivot poin?. A statue of Antiocus Epimanes in the UN building enabling an Exodus from the Hellenistic liberals. With at least another two years of diplomatic slop, Israel’s enemies know the window is still wide open for now with the Obama administration.

        • Daniel_Greenfield

          Some are. Some aren’t.

          That’s part of the split.

      • Michael Garfinkel

        Exit polls indicate that the Democrats retained 66% of the Jewish vote in this mid-term election. So, there’s little evidence at this point that the sympathies of the Jewish electorate are changing – or are even subject to change.

        One wonders: what, if anything, it will take to move the needle?

        In the meantime, Jim Baker’s comment remains cogent; “f**k the Jews, they didn’t vote for us anyway.

        • Daniel_Greenfield

          I don’t think those exit polls are especially meaningful considering the small sample size and limited locations.

          That said, there really aren’t enough Jews living in one place to make much of a difference in most races anyway. Jews are mainly significant as a force multiplier because of individual impact. Individual Jews end up making a significant difference in politics.

    • CosmotKat

      Or read Irving Kristol’s book “Why Jews vote Democrat”

      • Debbie G

        Another: “Why Are Jews Liberals,” by Norman Podhoretz.

  • Atikva

    A break up can’t happen unless there has been some kind of bond between two people or two communities. Since these leftists JINOs never bonded with Israel, they couldn’t possibly break up with it. On that and other matters, whatever they say doesn’t make any difference whatsoever.

  • zzz05

    Yes. All Jewish Democrats actually hate Jews and hate Israel. Good that you noticed that. I’ll file it with all the “All Muslims want to kill all non-Muslims” reports that have been coming in lately under “things I’ll stay up all night worrying about”.

  • Daniel_Greenfield

    He got Israel to set up a terrorist state in its borders leading to a large number of deaths.

    Joe Biden is a compulsive liar

  • Space Cowboy

    The Jewish liberal is becoming less liberal and less Jewish. He is becoming a leftist with a Jewish last name and no amount of Israeli concessions to terrorists will convince Jewish leftists to put their Jewish identity ahead of their leftist politics.

    Once those Jewish leftists realize that those Israeli concessions weren’t being made to terrorists, but jihadists instead that are not perpetrating terrorism because of harsh Israeli policies, but rather because they are waging a jihad, which is a so-called holy war waged by ALL MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD against not only the Jewish infidels in Israel, but also ALL INFIDELS IN THE WORLD, to ultimately make Islam and its followers supreme throughout the world, at the same they will not only repudiate writers like Daniel Greenfield that were responsible for misleading them, but they will also make a decided turn to the right as well.

  • Mike Miller

    What I love about reading Daniel’s articles is that I learn something from them. All I can say about this one is, unbelievebly well thought out and informaitive. I almost feel sorry for the left wing tree hugging bunny kissing Dems tonight, but they only have themselves to blame.

  • MarVista509

    i thought they don t care, replacing Arabs, Latinos w/Jewish vote!

  • Hard Little Machine

    When Moses left Egypt a large number of the Hebrew slaves stayed behind. Those are the Jews who still stick with DNC.

    • Lightbringer

      About eighty percent, wasn’t it? I think that that’s the number of Jews who never made it out of Egypt. And it was their choice.

  • 1shotthesher1ff

    from a British perspective i think even liberal jews have been alienated by the staged managed provocations from Qatar/Turkey over Gaza and the antisemitism that has been stirred up as a result by the left/media and muslim elements. Milliband noted the latter but he was not capable of connecting the dots.I would be suprised if there wasnt a shift in votes in this weeks elections, even if it may take further shocks to prise jewish voters away from the democrats.

  • Ben-Lavi

    If you look north to Canada you find that the Jewish vote has moved from the Liberals to the Conservatives. It doesn’t look like it will be swinging back anytime soon. Our Liberal Party like most leftist parties hold Israel to standards it holds no other nation to.
    The Conservatives have been and are clear as crystal in their support of Israel.
    Let’s hope American Jewry eventually wakes up and sees the obvious.

  • Lightbringer

    “There is nothing except reason and decency that prevents Jews from being anti-Semites…”

    The only thing that prevents Jews from being anti-Semites and keeps them Jewish is Torah. Studying and obeying it is the only purpose for our existence.

  • hinckleybuzzard

    It has been a commonplace observation for years now that left wingers are left wingers first, no matter what their race, religion, or national origin. That includes left wing Jews– lefties first, Jews second–if they even bother.

    • Debbie G

      I bet you can figure out how I knew you are from Northern Ohio.

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    Killing of hundreds/thousands of Christians in Lebanon, Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Ethiopia – by Islamofascist terrorists.

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    Me too. The democrat party became a socialist party.

    • Atikva

      The islamo-socialist party, yes!

  • joshuasweet

    Obama and his democratic following have an agenda that supports and advance that of the Muslim Brotherhood, over that of the United States and her allies, world wide.
    Just look at the “Arab Spring” and who that benefited the most.
    When Egypt was under the control of the Brotherhood, Obama was going to ship all sorts of weapons and support systems to them, he was brokering a deal backed by the USA to buy two German submarines for them, he was in the process of sending over a wing of F-16 fighter bombers and all their support systems, along with lots and lots of our tax dollars. but immediately when the Egyptians booted them out as, get this now, terrorist, in a fair election by the people of Egypt Obama stops all shipments in a very vocal manner.
    He has first Hillary then Kerry manage arms deals to Known terrorist groups as long as they were affiliated to the Brotherhood.
    The Benghazi killings were for a slight one of he Major Terrorist groups leaders felt when Obama used an openly gay ambassador to gather the signature on the deal Hillary made. That is why nothing has been done at all about those attacks.
    Have you ever asked yourself what was Obama doing in Pakistan, in that very same region as Osama bin Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden ended up in, with a male companion?

  • HWGood

    I’ve long held that the left turned against Hitler for two reasons.
    First, he attacked Russia while it was ruled by someone calling himself a Communist.
    Second, he started killing people besides Jews.

  • MrUniteUs1

    Right or wrong to help these Nazis?

    Nazis Helped Get Us To The Moon. The Reagan White House Helped Keep Them In The U.S.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/07/operation-paperclip_n_6123746.html

    • Atikva

      Must you deposit your quota of garbage on conservative sites on a weekly basis to receive your troll fee? We already have been inundated with all that leftist crap for decades, it’s not like it were going to make an iota of difference now.

      Well, at least it makes us laugh now and then, like when you have the candor to try and make us interested in anything from the Huffington
      Post!.