The Muslim Suicide Convert

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam. He is completing a book on the international challenges America faces in the 21st century.


article-2531254-1A58FDE900000578-258_634x361Both of the suicide bombers who struck in Russia were Muslim converts. They follow a long string of Muslim terrorist converts, including the murderers of British soldier Lee Rigby, who were sentenced last month, and Terry Lee Loewen, who plotted to car bomb the Wichita Mid-Continent Airport that same month.

Muslim converts engage in terrorism at a higher rate than Muslims. It’s gotten so bad that converting to Islam is almost a form of suicide.

The popular theory is that Muslim terrorist groups use converts because they blend in better. But in most Western countries, screening by race is nearly illegal and even in targeted countries where it isn’t, there are usually many members of Muslim ethnic groups in most major cities.

There are four reasons for the rise of the Muslim Suicide Convert. Muslim converts are gullible, fanatical, suicidal and expendable.

Let’s start with the last one. Muslims usually come from tribal cultures with extended family groups. Despite its claims of transnationalism and multiculturalism, Islam is an ethnic religion with the descendants of Mohammed elevated over everyone else, the families in the region of his first conquests elevated over other Arabs, Arabs elevated over non-Arabs, Asian Muslims over African Muslims and African Muslims over Western converts to Islam.

A convert to Islam is lowest on the totem pole because he has no family group. In a tribal society, not having a family connection makes you an outsider. A Muslim who Jihads himself to death creates a hole in the network of arranged cousin marriages, illegal business arrangements and other extended family support structures. A Muslim convert was never part of the network unless he married into it. And even then he can easily be unplugged because he shares no common ancestry with them.

In a Muslim country, he can be killed without having to pay blood price. In a Western country, he can be sent off to die without the “tribe” of Pakistanis or Egyptians who built the mosques and hired the Imams who converted him and convinced him to kill non-Muslims being affected by his death.

He is expendable.

Converts are not part of the family networks of the Muslim settlers in their Western diasporas. That makes them useful cannon fodder. If they are captured, the mosque denies all responsibility and blames the Internet even though most mosques and Muslim student groups host those same speakers who “radicalize” converts over the Internet at their own facilities and events.

Muslim converts are also suicidal. The act of conversion destroys the entire cultural and faith background of the individual. It cuts him off from his family, his people and his way of life. Converts to Islam often discuss feeling empty. They expect Islam to fill the void within them and when it does not, they are told that the failure is theirs.

The Muslim convert finds Islam in a search for fulfillment and still feeling unfulfilled, seeks out its “purer” forms whose commitment to Jihadist violence is more overt. The violence of their rhetoric and the force of their commitment briefly feel like fulfillment, but then dissatisfaction sets in again. Told to blame himself for this final failure, the Muslim Suicide Convert makes his final kamikaze run hoping to find the meaning and fulfillment in the afterlife that evaded him in this life.

Muslim converts have personal problems that they try to treat with Islam the way that sufferers from conventional diseases try to treat their illnesses with phony cures. Muslim clerics promise that Islam will solve the personal problems of non-Muslims and non-Muslim societies, but like so many criminal gurus, they are peddling phony cures that kill the patient.

That is one reason why Muslim converts are fanatical. Another reason is that they have no baseline. Converts plunge into another religion and culture as into deep water.

Muslims have learned to make the necessary compromises with their fanatical religion that make their lives livable. That is why most of them do not go out and blow themselves up; instead they undermine Western societies in slower and steadier ways through demographics, disinformation and political influence.

The Muslim Suicide Convert seeks an uncompromising purity. He rejects the compromises that Muslims have learned to make over the centuries. Seeking the core revelation in a religion of death; he finds that revelation only in death. The truth of Islam is in its killing fields. It preaches war for power and paradise. The Muslim convert who searches for its essence finds a grinning skull in the desert sands and hurries to emulate its terrible example.

Finally, Muslim converts are gullible. The natives of every land have games that they play with tourists, relying on their unfamiliarity with another culture to mislead them and trick them. Muslim converts are strangers in a strange land, slowly learning a foreign way of life and pathetically eager to be accepted by another culture. It is all too easy for Muslim clerics to lead them down the garden path to the suicide bomber’s paradise by offering and withholding affection until they are willing to do anything to belong.

Muslim Suicide Converts are enlisted in a war the way that men have been enlisted in wars throughout the ages with appeals to patriotism, tales of outrageous atrocities and myths of incredible heroism. The Muslim clerics tailor their pitch to the disposable people who are the least likely to be missed.

Muslim recruiters thrive on campus for the same reasons as cult recruiters and leftist academics.

The modern university is the place to find insecure young people questioning everything that they believe in and unsure of what to do when their impulse to tear down everything does not fulfill their need for something to believe in.

Into this universe of doubt, the Muslim cleric intrudes with his false offer of certainty, with the air of the victim, the badge of the underdog, the mysticism of the east and the romance of the grass that, like the terrorist flags that wave among it, always grows greener on the other side of the world.

Westernized Muslims are urged to purge themselves of Western culture, embrace the black flags and atone for their beers they drank, the girls they kissed and the songs they sang with the death screams of sirens and the blood of their non-Muslim friends and neighbors.

The seduction of the non-Muslim aims for the dissatisfied and unhappy who were trained by a liberal culture contemptuous of its own values and traditions to instinctively value non-Western spirituality over their own “materialistic” and “imperialistic” faiths.

The children of an intellectual tradition that taught them to reject absolutes; embrace with fervor an absolutism that calls for their deaths and the death of the world.

The Muslim Suicide Convert embraces his role as the vanguard of a spiritual world order, destroying the oppressive materialism of the world to make way for the superior rule of Islamic law, believing that he can only overcome his own materialism by destroying his material substance and the material substance of the society that nurtured someone as unworthy as him in the ultimate act of submission for the death drive of the Islamic religion of submission.

His suicide is the extension of the national suicide that brought the Muslim preachers who worked on his mind into the country and into its universities.

The Muslim Suicide Convert, like his Islam-friendly liberal society, kills himself and his society to atone for its materialism, reaching instead for a material paradise of virgin demon women, young boys serving wine and rivers and hills made of the bounties of seventh century Arabia, drowning his guilt in death and his hope for eternity in the innocent blood of his victims.

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  • Judahlevi

    One of the common characteristics of liberalism and Islamism is that they both dream of utopia and they both need to control society in order to get there.

    Both believe they have the moral high ground, one given by the ideology of liberalism and the other by doing what Allah wants them to do. They join forces by both hating and desiring to destroy traditional western values.

    It is not surprising that western liberals make excuses for Islamic fanatics. In a certain way, they understand them.

    • Waleed Nehmeh

      What Utopia Islam calls for? Islam is a master/slave set of rules in all of its aspects. Firstly, its so called verses mostly address males and consider females as toys to enjoy and abuse, 2ndly, it addressses “masters” also to use slaves the way they wish even in sexual manners, and thirdly, it calls for continuous wars against humans to enslave them and make the ruling so called elites enjoy their supremacy over thse stupid subjects. Subjects are soldiers who will always be ready to die for the masters in the hope of going to the Islamic paradise which is nothing but a house of whores. The quran translation and Islamic books when translated into other languages hide the truth, and change the real Arabic awful meanings in order trick the Westerners.

      • defcon 4

        Islam is a misery theme park — a worldwide, fascist dystopia.

      • Paul of Alexandria

        And to a Muslim, that’s Utopia!

    • RememberLee

      Unfortunately for those western liberals the feeling is not reciprocated. You never hear of Muslims joining them in their causes that have nothing to do with Islam. To liberals, Muslims are the oppressed victimized souls of intolerant western society. To Muslims, liberals are just useful idiots.

      • defcon 4

        If lieberals admire islam so much, you would think they would be moving lock, stock and barrel to the various islam0nazi misery theme parks of this world, of which there are a plenitude.

      • Habbgun

        Yep. If you want to make a liberal miserable ask him what a Moslem sees when he looks at him or her. What does the Moslem see when he sees the girls at an Occupy camp? What does the Moslem see at a gay rights parade? What does a Moslem see when someone is soft on crime? Everyone knows that when it comes to Islam that liberals contradict themselves but that is because they don’t think Moslems have contempt for THEM. Make them face the fact that an entire group sees them as garbage being used by heaven to abet their own destruction and they don’t look very happy. Ask a liberal why if a Moslem can look at them as a second class citizen why can’t you? Why can’t anybody?

      • Titanoboa

        Actually, it goes both ways, the arrogant Western liberals think that the Muslims are useful idiots, whom they can use to fight their “main enemy”, Western Conservatives and Traditionalists.

        • defcon 4

          Iranian Communists thought of the Ayatollah and his Shi’a mongrels as their allies, things didn’t turn out so well for them once the Ayatollah established his islamic “republic” there.

  • Jagatheesan Chandrasekharan

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    • RagingVoiceOfReason

      What?

  • truebearing

    These are the useful idiots of Islam. Notice that the ever-so-devout Imams and Mullahs aren’t setting an example and blowing themselves up — kind of like the environmentalists who decry over-population, but won’t de-populate themselves. They will gladly kill for their cause, but when it comes to expediting their own glorious martyrdom, they all seem to prefer this realm’s virgins.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Or like Al Gore, private jet Al Gore, and his over sized ego and carbon footprint.

    • laura r

      leaders dont do the dirty work. they stay in the office, & hire hitmen.

      • Wolfthatknowsall

        That’s why the Imams and Mullahs and Ayatollahs won’t off themselves. They have naive “hitmen” to do it for them. Well stated …

        • Drakken

          And that is why we infidels should be offing the imams, mullahs and ayatollahs, cut the head off of the snake, the rest of the snake dies.

          • Somali warrior

            If you kill one imam the next hour there will be another one who will be more ambitious. History proves that method killing imams and scholars backfired.

          • truebearing

            Then kill them all.

          • Somali warrior

            They tried that method also and didn’t work.

          • Habbgun

            Would bombing a certain city with a certain rock work? I mean you seem to know the answer. Why not share?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Invade Mecca, capture the kabba and hold it ransom.

            Islamofascists must surrender unconditionally to Infidels or the kabba gets pulverized into kitty litter.

          • defcon 4

            “they” being whom? Muslimes? The only religious group engaged in ethnic cleansing of unbelievers in the world today?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            You can go to H E L L to be along side your prophet of Satan called Muhammed.

            NO 72 VIRGINS FOR YOU.

          • defcon 4

            I wonder what the door prize for women is in allah’s heavenly whorehouse? Or do they constitute the staff?

          • Drakken

            Works extremely well, just look at what a few of us Marines did with a couple thousand of you skinnies?

          • Drakken

            We infidels have more bullets than you have bodies, one of these days we infidels will get the will to use them. I should add that every mosque and madrassa should be razed to the ground as well, if the muslim is still in them, so be it.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Infidels being Bahais, Buddhists, Christians, Hindus, Jews, Zoroastrians.

            6 billion v.s. 1.5 billion?

            Who is going to prevail?

          • Somali warrior

            So you basically saying if you was in control you would of kill kids in madarasa and people in the masjid who worshiping god? Wow.. So you are a terrorist yourself. Actually worst.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Somali pig,

            YOU savages kill men, women and children.

            YOU savages show no compassion.

            YOU savages even kill fellow Muslims.

            You savages are doing everything possible to trigger a REAL War against Islam.

            Every terrorist attack creates more disgust and hatred of Islam and its prophet of Satan called Muhammed.

          • defcon 4

            You mean kinda like your fellow shahid are doing all over the world today islam0nazi?

          • Robin-Frans Winkel

            I more or less agree with you. Extermination of Muslims is wrong. It is enough to turn them into second-rate citizens, i.e. Muslim men cannot marry non-Muslim women, but the reverse is allowed.

          • defcon 4

            They have to be deported back to their islam0fascist misery theme parks — along w/their collaborators and apologists.

          • Robin-Frans Winkel

            THEIR theme parks? You do know how Islam spread, don’t you?

          • Drakken

            And here you are against dealing with them with expedient means? What are you going to do to stop this cancer? Sing kumbaya to them? Have dialogue and more wishful thinking sessions?

          • defcon 4

            I see your point on this, but I don’t think there’s anyway to unring that bell.

          • Drakken

            It is a very simple problem, them or us, there is no longer any middle or high ground to take. This is a no quarter thing.

          • Notalibfool

            But your side has no problem killing OUR people in churches/synagogues/etc….tit for tat, SomaLIE warrior.

          • Drakken

            You don’t worship God, you worship the devil himself, and frankly getting rid of cannon fodder for allah(devil)? I’m good with it. Funny how you muslims have no problem blowing things up and killing infidels when it suits you, but God forbid the infidel turn the tables and you sub human savages whine and cry about how unfair us infidels are, get bloody stuffed.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The West will play by its own rules – kill the enemy until they surrender.

            It worked in WW2.

            It will work with sand nazis too.

          • defcon 4

            Millions of Germans had to die to stop the nazis.

          • Marisa Martin

            I’ve been wondering why we’ve shown such deference to the Imans and mosques in Afghanistan, Irag etc when we know they are enemy central headquarters.

          • Idl

            Because “diversity” and “tolerance”.

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  • http://libertyandculture.blogspot.com/ Jason P

    I usually try to add something in the comments section that they author overlooked. Damn, you got me today. You captured the mindset and sociology of the convert in a tour de force exposition.

  • john spielman

    Islam is a debased religion. It apeals to rapists pedophiles thieves murderers because it does not demand a transformation of ones spirit as does Christianity but rather gives full expresion to one’s carnal nature (cf the nature of Islamic paradise full of vices – perpetual fornication, both heteroexual and homosexual, drunkeness etc). It allows, even encourages, revenge killings esp for Allah’s honor as the Islamic concept of god is not omnipotent like YWHW Is!

    • defcon 4

      You would think if allah was so powerful, he wouldn’t need a bunch of raving, Jew hating psychopaths to enforce his will on the rest of humanity.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Jew hating, Christians hating, Hindu hating, Buddhist hating, Bahati hating and the wrong kind of Muslim hating.

        Islam is at War with the entire world.

        • SDN

          “Ishaq:204/TabariVI:134 Abbas the uncle of the Prophet said: ’Men of the Khazraj, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man?’

          ‘Yes,’ they answered. ‘In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging ourselves to wage war against all mankind.’”

          http://chersonandmolschky.com/2013/10/24/islam-mankind/

          It’s as simple as that.

          • defcon 4

            Another example of islam’s “moderate” nature.

  • cu..n t

    All ISLAM people are BACON EATING PEODO’S who like PORK and RAPE

  • JVictor

    Let’s remove the word “suicide” for just a moment. Why are there so many Muslim converts compared to all of the other world religions? The answer is simple. Relevancy. The late-teens and early-twenties crowd make up one of the most insightful generations we have seen in decades. It’s nigh unto impossible to bamboozle them and they are conditioned to want to make a difference in the world. Their choices for religion? Judaism and Christianity, which have been reduced to a bunch of socialistic creedos with series of do’s and don’ts, or any of the myriad of Eastern mysticism gobbledy-gook which encourage their adherents to attain personal nirvana by checking out of reality despite the existence of chaos all around. Scads of tripe that these young people see through easily.

    Islam is the only religion where it’s protagonists and propagandizers routinely tell their adherents and potential converts that they can make a difference in a cause that is bigger than themselves. Toss in a comment or two on the merits of jihad and self-sacrifice and, voila, Muslim Suicide Converts aplenty.

    The physical and spiritual descendants of Abraham and Sarah must step up to the plate together and proclaim the real power of being in relationship with the Creator of the Universe. Until then, more and more children will sacrifice themselves to the neo-Babylonian moon god now masquerading as Allah in their quest for relevancy.

    • john spielman

      actually, there are more people coming to Christ every day than to Islam. As far as coming together, there IS NOTHING in commom between the light of Christ and the darkness of Islam /Satan or Belial, except that the light (ofChrist) WILL overcome the darkness.

      • JVictor

        The promises Jehovah made were to the physical and spiritual descendants of Abraham and Sarah. Those are the ones to which I was referring. Ishmael, whose relationship with Jehovah has been hijacked by the propagators of the lie of Islam, and his descendants are just like any other Gentile-in need of Yeshua haMashiach.

        • john spielman

          sorry I misunderstood!

        • defcon 4

          I don’t think the word J-e-h-o-v-a-h is ever supposed to be uttered, but I’m not sure if it’s permissible to write it or not.

    • Jean Robertson

      First of all, I don’t see the young as insightful; just mostly confused. They have been fed a diet of socialism, feminism, liberalism, etc. through their feelings, senses and emotions, (affective education), and all kinds of “sexuality” They know there is something untrue about the whole mess, but they are not well read enough (comprehension is a problem as well), and they don’t have enough experience to figure it out. Combine that with the broken families, re-structured ‘families”, and they, frankly, don’t know ,much about anything. (well, they know some pop culture) They don’t know the history of the 10 Commandments or the purpose behind Jesus (that would be too simple, not exotic enough). Liberal adults have done a good job… and for that they will have to answer to God, as these are other people’s children that they are so misleading.
      Islam is attractive, because it is ‘power” to them, they think. They don’t know much else about the history of the spread of islam by the sword. But they could well think that lording it over the dhimmie is a good idea.

    • Paul of Alexandria

      I disagree. People convert to Islam because it requires no thought, no discernment, no repentance. Obey the 5 Pillars and you’re in: Say the confession, say your prayers daily, give to the proper Islamic charities, fast during Ramadan, and visit Mecca once. You don’t have to love anyone, you don’t have to show mercy to your enemies, you don’t have to confess your sins or repent of them. Also, nothing that happens to you is your fault: “Inshallah” – as Allah wills – explains everything that happens to you, and to everyone else.
      See http://www.jihadwatch.org/islam-101.html
      and “The Arab Mind” by Raphael Patai.

      • defcon 4

        It’s interesting to note that Ramadan in 2012 was celebrated by some muslimes by committing acts of terrorism. How many religions observe their holiest days by killing people? Only one AFAIK.

  • antishaira

    Two things: in most religions converts tend to be more zealous than those born into it, and secondly Islam is a sick religion for sick people. The mentally unstable are attracted to Islam because they are attracted to their own.

    • GopherNo83

      Kind of like when ex-smokers act harshly towards smokers. They become more zealous than those that never smoked!

    • philbest

      I was going to say something like that. And Islam’s “grievances” harmonise all too well with the propaganda from the Left that western youth get fed with, viz, everything is all the fault of evil white capitalists/imperialists. So if you are depressed and suicidal anyway, why not join the “victims” religion and take yourself out in a blaze of martyrdom for the cause?

      Communism once offered a cause for sick minds in the west to support, but it did not include a philosophy of murder-suicide terrorism.

    • defcon 4

      Bzzzzzzzzzt. Wrong. Try going to Mogadishu, Tehran, Riyadh, Mecca, Ankara, Istanbul, Medina, Baghdad, Aceh, Islamabad, Karachi and try criticising islam publicly.

  • Mur

    Daniel captures the essence of the question. What is the journey of a suicidal jihadi convert? Required reading for agents of FBI, CIA, Interpol, Homeland Security, and all organizations that are supposed to be dealing with this problem.

    • defcon 4

      A nice idea, until such agencies are infiltrated and subverted by islam0nazis from within and without.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        And invaded by anti-Western socialist and regressive progressive fascists.

  • Terrence Jeffrey Johnson

    More proof of why the false “religion” of Islam needs eradicated from the planet

    • SDN

      But how ? We can decently not kill people just because of their religion. The only way for Islam to disappear is for Muslims to apostasize Islam en masse.

      • defcon 4

        Or we can wait for the unicorns, elves and gryphons to save us.

  • mtnhikerdude

    What religion other than Islam bombs its own places of worship and its own wedding ceremonies ? Anyone converting to Islam should ask themselves this question before strapping on a vest. Conversion to Islam requirement is a room temp or below I.Q. .

  • defcon 4

    But only because they subscribe to a totalitarian death cult that brooks no criticism — as is evidenced by every last islamic state on the face of this earth today.

  • defcon 4

    GO back to barking in the streets of Mogadishu.

    • guido

      As far as I am aware no God or Allah has ever “spoken” to anybody, The persons who have “heard” him are living a fantasy|

      • Somali warrior

        If your atheist.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Better an atheist than a devil worshping islamist.

  • Drakken

    I obviously missed you on the streets of Mogadishu, great skinny warrior huh? Yeah sure you are skinny. Islam is the devils religion and you false, murdering, pedophile prophet is the devils disciple so GTF out of the west skinny or were going to have a repeat performance of what we Marines did to you savages here.

    • Somali warrior

      I’m not gonna address you since you are hiding under the umbrella of marines who went to Somalia.

      • defcon 4

        If islam is so great, why aren’t you living in an islamic state dirtbag?

      • Drakken

        I was one of those Marines you dumbazz! I am laughing my backside off at your utter inbred stupidity. Have some more khat skinny.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Somali pig,

        How’s your hijacking ships business going?

        Boom or bust?

  • UCSPanther

    I will NOT convert to your religion pal, and millions more think just like me.

    You will learn to leave other people alone, and if we have to teach that lesson the hard way, then so be it.

    You can have the progressive Eloi, but I will guarantee that the rest of us will not make it easy for you.

  • Johnnie the Jew

    Lets put the acid on this delusion once and for all, metaphysically speaking. So, there’s a god who possesses all manner of lofty attributes e.g all knowing, all present, the epitome of goodness and love, blah,blah. He handpicks an illiterate camel herder of a very “immoral” persuasion – child molester – to transmit his most profound message to mankind via the angel Gabriel (by the way where’s Gabriel these days ? he appears to have been unemployed for a very long time… no more messages from god, etc). So, what kind of twisted god is this if this is the best he can do in terms of prophet selection ?! Real bad HR. I suppose god could always blame Gabriel for selecting the wrong guy …. Just curious. Any philosophers out there….All clues greatly received to unravel this BS.

    • Somali warrior

      Muhammad was chosen by god, and only god knows why he chosed him.
      He couldn’t read or write so how would he know about human embryo and the time it takes to devolop? How did he know about the circle the sun and earth and the moon? The day and night rotation.
      How did he know that there was other planets out there 1435 years ago before there was science? How did he know how Jerusalem looks like when he never been to that city physically?
      How did Muhammad know about Adam,Abraham, Jesus who all was 100-1000s year before him?
      When Muhammad first told his people that he received a message from God no one believed him so they put to many tests and asked prove and he proved that what he was saying was from higher power… Then we all believed.

      • philbest

        There is an epigram popular among secular atheists, “how odd, of God, to choose the Jews” – attributed to William Norman Ewer (1885-1975).

        Even odder of Allah to choose Muhammed, eh…..?

        • rightrightright

          But un-odd of the devil to choose Mo. Such an effective antidote to truth.

      • Paul of Alexandria

        “How did he know…..” Because he was a trader and talked to other traders passing through. There were many Jews and Christians in the area where Mohammed was. What is interesting is that most of his understanding of Jewish and Christian beliefs is demonstrably wrong.

        • autdrew

          And when they tried to show him that he was wrong, he accused Jews & Christians of changing their own scriptures just to omit him. No, he has never been in there, he was not correctly taught. Rather than admit he was wrong, he claimed we altered them.

        • defcon 4

          There WERE Jews and Christians being the operative concept here, but there aren’t any more, at least not in Medina or Mecca and we don’t have to wonder why.

        • Somali warrior

          Muhammad was receiving a revelation all most every night.
          People at that time tested him they didn’t just believe.
          People in Ibrahim time worshipped statue how did Muhammad know about Adam and Eve and how they got kicked out if heaven, he didn’t read the bible because he couldn’t read.
          How did he know about the story of Moses and how he was given the power of magic? Moses spoke to god directly.
          Muhammad was given a task which was to tell the people that there is a God and only one God. And God told him that he will be the last messenger from him. Since Muhammad 1435 years ago there no other messenger. Islam is a true religion and the number of people who study then chose to convert says a lot. We as Muslims disagree with suicide bombings and all terrorist acts.
          The prophet never killed another innocent muslim or Christian or Jew. Terrorist is hurting the Muslims more than anyone else. Terrorist are just individuals who just happen to be Muslims. But you can not judge all Muslims and the Islamic religion based on terrorist groups. Muslims has its own laws and we cool with it so why you non muslims always winning about what muslims do and how we practice our religion?

          • Krivanto Vishwam Aryam

            you need medical attention….that too quickly…..

          • heapologiatoutimotheou

            People ‘choose’ to convert to Islam at gunpoint, after getting kidnapped and forced into a marriage, because they want to marry some hot muslim woman whose father won’t let her marry an infidel, or because they’re sociopaths that see Islam as a sort of religious endorsement for their criminal lifestyle. Then, supposing someone within the religion regrets their conversion, well, they’re stuck, because it’s the death penalty for apostasy. Islam grows like cancerous tumors grow.

            In contrast, people convert to Christianity of their own free will after reading or hearing about Christ and His love for them, despite their sins. They see a God that comes down and rescues them from their misery, not some god (Allah), that expects them to carry out his vengeance on unbelievers in order to get into a paradise that resembles a whorehouse.

            This is why Christianity is the number one religion in the world and the fastest growing, despite all the Muslims killing them off in Nigeria, Central Africa, Sudan, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Turkey, etc. etc. ad nauseam. The truth always triumphs over a lie.

          • Paul of Alexandria
          • defcon 4

            I find it hard to believe he doesn’t know. I find it more likely he’s lying, in all too typical islamic fashion.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            “Muhammad was receiving a revelation all most every night.”

            Does that count the revelation he received from the devil?

            “Muhammad know about Adam and Eve and how they got kicked out if heaven, he didn’t read the bible because he couldn’t read.”

            That was a botched version of the central story in Judaism and Christianity. He would have had to have been retarded as well as illiterate not to know it.

            “How did he know about the story of Moses and how he was given the power of magic?”

            From all the Jews he later killed to cover up his plagiarism?

            “Since Muhammad 1435 years ago there no other messenger”

            Tell that to the Bahai and the Druze and all the others.

            “The prophet never killed another innocent muslim or Christian or Jew.’

            Muhammad said, “Kill any Jew that falls into your power.” Shortly afterwards, Muhayyisa b. Masud leapt upon and killed Ibn Sunayna, with whom Muhayyisa had some social and business relations. However, Muhayyisa’s elder brother, not a Muslim at the time, beat the assassin, the younger brother, saying, “You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?” Muhayyisa retorted that if Muhammad had ordered even the elder brother’s assassination, he would have carried it out. The elder was impressed: “By God, a religion which can bring you to this is marvelous!” And he became a Muslim.

          • defcon 4

            Were his nightly “revelations” just B.M.’s?

          • SDN

            Finally someone who recognizes that jihadists have done more anyone else to give a bad image of Islam in the world. But the thing is that the terrorists justify their horrific acts by quoting the teachings of the Islamic religion !

            “The first thing that we are calling you is to Islam” – Ussama Ben Laden

            “Jihad…holy fighting in Allah cause with full force of numbers and weaponry…is an obligated duty in Islam on every Muslim” – Faizal Shahzad

            “we are forced by the Qur’an, in Sura At-Tawba, through many ayah in the Qu’ran, we must fight them as they fight us” – Michael Adebolajo

            “I have come here only to make Allah pleased with me, to earn heaven…I am not inventing anything from the Koran I am reading it” – Pavel Pechyonkin, the perpetrator of the Volgograd bomb attack

            “I have become “radicalized” in the strongest sense of the word, and I don’t feel Allah wants me other way…I don’t understand how you can read the Qur’an and the sunnah of the Prophet (saw) and not understand that jihad and the implementation of Sharia is absolutely demanded of all the Muslim Ummah,” – Terry Lee Loewen, convert to Islam who tried to blow up an airport.

            Those linking Islam with terrorism are the terrorists themselves.

          • defcon 4

            Mohahahahahamad himself stated he had been made victorious through terror.

          • cheechakos

            Never killed anyone? He was a cult leader who had others kill for him. Like Charles Manson.

            If you read and believe the koran……He had a woman ripped in half. He tortured his own followers.He raped children.He had entire Jewish tribes massacred.
            He forced people to convert to islam and worship him.He enslaved innocent women and children.
            Every day people are forced to convert or DIE.

            And that stupid black rock you idolize?
            It was a town marker he took as a war prize.
            Jews used unusual rocks and chunks of meteors to mark roads/villages. They believed they were links/gifts from heaven

      • Daniel Greenfield

        You’re assuming that Mohammed actually said these things.

        This is knowledge that the Greeks and Romans had and that some of those around Mohammed had.

        The existence of planets was widely known long before Mohammed.

        I doubt he knew much of anything about Jerusalem. Most of the Muslim stuff in that regard was added later as part of an internal dispute within Islam.

        Mohammed’s claims about Abraham made little sense.

        • defcon 4

          But according to interpretation, muhammad flew to the Temple Mount (i.e. the furthest mosque) on his winged steed — without benefit of in-flight movies, salted peanuts or free drinks.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            Had to be added in later on.

            A future version will describe Mohammed’s winged journey to Dearborn

          • Hass

            LoL, too bad that mosquito didn’t exist back then.

          • cheechakos

            Ahh my favorite muslim lie.

            The Prophet died on June 8, 632, and where he was buried in his house adjoining the mosque he had helped build.
            The original Prophet’s Mosque was built next to the house where he settled after his Hijrah (emigration) to Medina in 622 CE. It was an open-air building with a raised platform for the reading of the Qur’an.

            Hadith of the Night Journey and Ascension
            620 CE Al-Isra’ wa Mi’raj

            Narrated on the authority of Anas ibn Malik 911 CE.The sermon is of Muhammad riding on a flying mule visited the seven levels of heaven.He ascended to heaven from “the furthest mosque.”

            The actual building (masjid-al-aqsa) started in 639 CE in Jerusalem on the Holy of Holies,after the muslim invasion and claim of the Holy of Holies being the sight Muhammad meant, and completed in 708 CE.

            In 691 CE the Dome of the Rock was erected on the site of the Temple of Solomon, which is claimed by Muslims to have been the halting station of Muhammad on his journey to heaven.

            Qur’anic inscriptions in Kufic script from the founding of the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem date from 692 CE.

            Al-Bukhari and other narrators of Hadith reported that the Prophet (peace be upon him) was asked:

            “Which mosque was built first on earth?”

            The Prophet (peace be upon him) replied: “The Sacred Mosque (in Mecca).”

            He was asked again: “Then which mosque comes next?” He replied: “Al-Aqsa Mosque.” He was then asked: “How long was the period between their construction?” He replied: “Forty years.”

            OLDEST MOSQUES
            624 Medina
            630 Mecca
            639-708 Jerusalem ,Al-Aqsa
            641 Iraq-Al-Hadba
            643 Jordan-Husseini
            662 Tripoli-Al Naqah
            681 Tunisia -Kairouan
            691 Dome of the Rock

            He was dead before muslims invaded Israel

          • defcon 4

            It was a flying mule, how bizarre. You would think it would’ve been a ship of the desert, or a horse, but a mule?

        • Hass

          Actually, Mo’s claims were all nonsensical to me.

      • Hass

        You moron, Pedo Mo is AKA Allah, but Muslimes are too stupid to work that out for themselves.

        And all that so called useless knowledge was plagiarized.
        Human embryo? That was from the Greeks.

        “How did he know about the circle the sun and earth and the moon? The day and night rotation” Ahahaha…
        Surely you can’t be that stupid?

        As for planets? As above.

        How Jerusalem looks like? Yes, you really are that stupid!

        How did Muhammad know about Adam,Abraham, Jesus who all was 100-1000s year before him?

        Thank you for the confirmation.

      • cheechakos

        Because he was exposed to Christianity, Judaism and pagan religions his entire life.Most people were illiterate then and religious stories were the main form of entertainment. Muhammad did not write the koran or anything else.He repeated stories he heard. Same about Jerusalem.

        Gestation ,fetal development and birth control method records have been found as old as 7,000 years.

        The earliest model that correctly displays the planets and stars found in Europe is carbon dated at 25,000 years old.

        Are you really so uneducated and naive?

  • dougjmiller

    I have no problem with Moslems committing suicide. I just wish they would do it quietly, away from other people.

  • john spielman

    what the world despirately needs is an open and public discussion of the life of Mohammed of the koran and hadiths, compared to the life of Christ Jesus of the Bible. The difference is OBVIOUS even to athiests and I believe many muslims would abandon their evil beliefs when they hear the truth!

    • rightrightright

      Which is why Cameron’s regime banned Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller from the UK. The truth would have been all too inconvenient and a threat to the state’s “religion of peace” narrative.

    • defcon 4

      Do you really think such a “discussion” is possible in any islamic state?

    • Drakken

      We are way beyond talking about it, islam needs eradication period.

  • Notalibfool

    “No one is ranked higher in Islam…”

    What about women? If no one is ranked higher then why are women treated so poorly?

    Please tell us what happens to people who refuse to convert to Islam, or to Muslims who abandon their religion.

    • defcon 4

      Women are “deficient in intelligence” by koranic decree.

    • GunnerDrew

      Good call. The Quran says women can be treated as property and their testimony is worth half that of a man’s. So it’s set down in their “holy” book to treat their wives worse than cattle. And yes the Quran also gives express permission to behead anyone that doesn’t submit to Allah. This is after all, the “religion of peace”.

      By the way it’s interesting that the Bible says that the antichrist and his religion, amongst other things, will not regards women’s desires or rights AND will behead those that oppose him.

      • autdrew

        And a sexual assault is required to have 4 male witnesses or else she is punished as an adultereress. To avoid this punishment, she could just marry the guy.
        In all the reading, studying and considering the world’s religions, there was one thing abundantly clear, it is a man’s ultimate dream “religion”. Not all men obviously but it appeals to every base instinct that other religions try to correct.
        Raiding, plundering, theft, rape, murder of the non believer or wrong type of Islam believer, fine..
        Lots of wives allowed. Slavery (to this day), other disgusting practices allowed. Total control over everyone in your household & there is no escape.
        How did/do people not see through this? The guy claimed to hear voices telling him what to do. He tried converting the old fashioned way, convincing them, and people saw how he perverted the teachings of other religions. They wouldn’t Take him seriously and that angered him.
        He changed his teaching according to his situation or mood. I mean, what other religion says it’s ok to lie, cheat & deceive as long as it’s against an unbeliever or to further the cause?
        If a religion is truly of God, why would it require that you are NEVER to leave and neither can your generations not even born yet.? What kind of God requires a death sentence in this life for changing ones mind? Smdh. Give me the love of Christ any day. I do not believe God behind Islam, it is truly from the deceiver.

      • Notalibfool

        Notice that one day after my comment was posted Somali warrior STILL hasn’t responded?

        • defcon 4

          It might take a while for his small mind to grind up some new lies to defend islam0fascism.

          • Notalibfool

            He should call himself SomaLIE warrior.

  • Robin-Frans Winkel

    “over Western converts to Islam.”

    Many Albanians and Chechens look deceptively white. That is why it makes sense for white non-Muslims to concentrate on learning Albanian and Chechen.
    http://oogenhand.wordpress.com/2012/09/22/why-does-the-albanian-have-to-wear-a-beard-2/

    The more swarthy Muslim men breed with white convert Muslim women, the whiter Muslims will look over the generations. In contrast, I have dark hair and very dark eyes…

  • Paul of Alexandria

    On a related note: dying in Jihad is the only way to guarantee paradise to a Muslim. You may live your whole life by the 5 Pillars, and “Inshallah”. But die a martyr, and paradise is guaranteed.

    • defcon 4

      I wish more muslimes would die martyrs, and quickly.

  • knowshistory

    people born into islam never had, and are not allowed to have a choice. a person so demented, or so criminal-minded to join a religion whose major virtues are the commission of horrible crimes against humanity (pedophilia, murder, lying, robbery, genocide, slavery) obviously has a serious defect, and can be expected to display bad behavior. if there was not a serious personality disorder, the convert would not have converted to a religion of sin and crime. it is a testament to the stupidity of western nations that they do not make the publicizing of the criminal nature that is intrinsic to islam a high priority, and then deport anyone who either refuses to leave, or joins islam in spite of knowing that islam is just a code of misconduct for criminals. joining islam is waving a flag proclaiming criminal intent, and should be taken seriously.

  • GunnerDrew

    If anyone has ever looked into the eschatology of Islam, it’s interesting how closely it mirrors Christianity… that is, the stories are INVERSE. The Bible talks of an antichrist who matches the Mahdi perfectly.

    He is a god of war who regards not the God of his fathers (Yahweh) nor does he honour the desire (or rights) of women. He also beheads anyone who will not worship the image of his god – which Acts 19 suggests is a black stone that fell from heaven. Interesting… tell me this isn’t Islam.

    And by the way, your Dajjal will have the title King of the Jews. I know someone who bears that title. Jesus Christ himself.

  • Daniel Greenfield

    I’m talking about the real Islam. Not your imaginary Allah Islam.

    “Sayyid is an honorific title, it denotes males accepted as descendants of the Islamic prophet Muhammad”.

    • defcon 4

      I read somewhere that some muslimes are claiming Queen Elizabeth as a descendant of the holey prophet.

      • Daniel Greenfield

        Sure. Then they can claim to rightfully own the UK

        • Notalibfool

          Religion of Peace? More like the Religion of Usurpers. It wouldn’t be the first (or even the last) time they have stolen from other cultures.

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    1. Islam is the religion of Satan. Why? Look at the carnage that Muslims commit today.

    That’s all folks.

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    what kind of twisted god is this if this is the best he can do in terms of prophet selection

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  • Marisa Martin

    People know in their heart murder, rape and bombs are wrong. They want to do it anyway and can’t be appealed to as decent moral agents.

  • Hass

    To me, there are two types of converts.
    The mentally unstable with a below average IQ who’s a useless member of society.
    And the professional converts who use Islam to their advantage.

    • defcon 4

      I read somewhere that one of Muhammad’s followers complained to him that some recent converts were not genuine. Muhammad said something to the effect the heart will follow what the head has chosen.

      • Hass

        And if the heart says no way!

        Then it’s off with their heads.

  • Stafford_Lou

    “3. No one is ranked higher in Islam we all sit on the ground. The person who is close to allah is the person who warships him the most.”

    Warships! Now that’s what I call a real Freudian slip.

  • heapologiatoutimotheou

    The Bible was written to be understood by anybody. The Quran was written (more or less) by an illiterate traveling salesman. There is nothing in either book that is too hard for you to comprehend. Forget Islamic scholars or Christian theologians. Pick up a Bible and a Quran, read them objectively, and then point out the vast, glaring differences in them.

    You sound like you’ve never read these books for yourself but have instead been spoon-fed a bunch of lies from your deceitful (or ignorant) imam.

  • Daniel Greenfield

    Islamists in Egypt and Syria “disrespect” the Christian religion by burning churches and kidnapping priests.

    • defcon 4

      Under Mubarak, an Egyptian APC “accidentally” ran over a dozen Christians. Christians have been and are being slaughtered by muslimes in Egyptistan.

  • Daniel Greenfield

    They’re never Muslims. None of it has anything to do with Islam. Allah Akbar means Boy is it cold outside.

  • defcon 4

    WRT your lie about islam’s respect for Christianity do you really think anyone here on FPM would be stupid enough to believe that lie? Maybe it works on the brain-dead lieberals at the Daily Kos, but it won’t fly here.

  • defcon 4

    Hitler privately admired islam and despised Christianity.

  • Kenneth James Abbott

    Islam is designed–absolutely, deliberately designed–to create a class of young men who have no money or jobs, who are used to abusing (and seeing abused) half of their own population, who have no contact with women’s calming influence, who literally have (almost) no chance for advancement.

    There is no way they can better themselves or get what they want monetarily, socially, spiritually, even sexually, but one–warfare.

    That’s not a bug; that’s a feature.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Very true. They weaponize their surplus populations.

      • defcon 4

        I seem to remember the paleswine using the mentally challenged as suicide bombers.

  • Walter Sieruk

    Two things about this need to be stated .First, the jihadist suicide/homocide bombers are the result of the extreme brainwashing that is done in the mosque and madrasas of other people by such false teachers the imams who throughly brainwash the violence and killing of the militant jihadism of Islam, Sura 9:111,112. 47:4. into the thoughts others Likewise the mind programing of the Quranic idea of a paradise with many virgins in it for the the jihadist who dies asa “martyr” for Islam is also very much mind programed into the thinking ofthe “students”[victims] of these Musilm clerics. As for the Quran it has been proven to be a hoax by many writters and even by a posting that I keyboarded earlier at site. Furthermore the Quran is a deceptive work of “the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful schemings”, the Bible, Ephesians 4:14. [NIV] These false teachers [the imams ans other Islamic clercs] will have to answer to the God of the Bible for their evil, Romans 14:12. Second, reader might very much notice that these imams and mullahs are never the one who go out and commit the suicide bombings. All they do is just indoctriate into the thinking of other people the a suicide/homocide bombing of attack is the “right” thing to do. then these same Islamc clerics send them out to commit the suicide/homocide bombing. All thewhile these same Muslim clerics sit home safe. This in itself says a lot about the real character of these imams and mullahs.

  • SDN

    Well in French speaking Switzerland where I live, medias in France and in Switzerland had no problem qualifying them as “radical islamists” bending on establishing an Islamic Caliphate in Daghestan.

    • defcon 4

      I’m not even sure if the enemedia in the USA ever identified the Boston Marathon bombers as muslimes.

  • Huffer

    An islamic convert is a FOOL, the same as an “in-house” muslim! Neither believe in the one true God, YHWH, their Creator and Jesus, the Redeemer. There is a total lack of love for anyone other than themselves in islam!
    They have bought into the lie of Lucifer who cares nothing for the individual. Sad but true.
    Like the curriculum and being pushed by USER’s everywhere and our public schools, it’s all about YOU! Only a person who has been lied to would ever believe they can gain paradise by killing themselves or someone else.
    (Capitals omitted intentionally)

  • Drakken

    Hmmm what is really going to work? My way? Or your wishful thinking?

  • defcon 4

    I believe there was no restriction at all on the number of wives mo could have. Funny that.

  • Walter Sieruk

    One of the main reason that so many jihadists are willing to blow themselves up in an Islamic suicide /homocide attack is because they have they thoughly mind programed by the mullahs and imams who very much brainwashed into beliving in the Islamic doctrine from the Quran with many virgins in it for the Muslim who dies as a “martyr’ fighting for the cause of islam. The actual origion of this Quranic doctrine is ,in reality, not from a divine source but it was taken or lifted from Arabian and Zoroastrine mythology then fused together and then inserted into the Quran and other written works of Islam by wicked and deceptive men. Now this doctrine/myth of a place with virgins is now part of the whole hoax of Islam.
    Furthermore, the Bible had predicted the coming of such false teachers as these mullahs and imams who indoctriate of such a type of a myth/doctrine as of a place with virgins into the hearts and minds of others, For the Bible reads “For the time will come that they will not stand wholesome teaching, but will follow their own fancy and gather a crowd of teachers to tickle their ears. They will stop their ears to the truth and turn to mythology.” Second Timothy 4:3,4. [NEB]

  • zabada

    Christian killed each
    other in world war 1 and 2.Million perished.Russian armies raped 200.00 Germany
    woman from age 8 to 80.Many woman hanged them self.Most who are participate in
    that war is Christians.At colonial times Christian killed too many people to
    rob more land.When muslims killed 2 or 3 out of millions,because they are
    oppressed by Christian countries at the times of colonial and ect…then they
    call muslims are terrorist and they are not.What a disgusting people they
    are. Muslims engage in wars only to protect Islam and their life.That all.Read
    history deeply. “The Oxford History of Islam” states that the spread of Islam “was often peaceful and
    sometimes even received “The Oxford History of Islam” states
    that the spread of Islam “was often peaceful and sometimes even received
    favourably by Christians”.peace.