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		<title>By: Texas Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/the-post-american-and-post-communist-world/comment-page-1/#comment-5376737</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Texas Patriot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 12:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I am revisiting Milton Friedman’s material to discover why his idea of total government non-involvement has not worked over the last 34 years, you can revisit Dr. Rob Atikinson’s material to discover why proactive government intervention on behalf of industry is necessary for international competitive excellence in the 21st Century.  


In that regard, please focus on whether, in your view, the following would be harmful or helpful to America’s competitive position relative to our other major global competitors going forward:  (1) low corporate taxes; (2) high tax incentives for investment in plant and equipment; (3) high tax incentives for research and development in automation, robotics, and advanced manufacturing processes:  (4) excellent educational system that prepares Americans to compete in a high tech global economy; (5) affordable access to excellent health care that is not chargeable to American industry; (6) tax incentives to facilitate energy independence and create low energy costs for American industry; and (7) non-involvement in hopeless foreign wars that destroy American families and place an unnecessary financial burden on American taxpayers and prevents the necessary construction and maintenance of excellent infrastructure in the areas of education, health care, and high technology research and development.


My initial reaction to Friedman’s videos is that they are quaint, anachronistic, and fail almost completely to deal with the actual reality of high tech global industrial competition in the 21st Century.  The truth is that the world has changed radically since 1980.  Governments worldwide now play an active role in creating competitive advantages for their domestic industries to the detriment of international competitors.   As a direct result of our government’s failure, as its first priority, to create and maintain an environment in which high technology industries can take root, survive, and thrive in America, the greatest economy in the history of the world has steadily deindustrialized and is now on the verge of bankruptcy. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWM08DzTuhY]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I am revisiting Milton Friedman’s material to discover why his idea of total government non-involvement has not worked over the last 34 years, you can revisit Dr. Rob Atikinson’s material to discover why proactive government intervention on behalf of industry is necessary for international competitive excellence in the 21st Century.  </p>
<p>In that regard, please focus on whether, in your view, the following would be harmful or helpful to America’s competitive position relative to our other major global competitors going forward:  (1) low corporate taxes; (2) high tax incentives for investment in plant and equipment; (3) high tax incentives for research and development in automation, robotics, and advanced manufacturing processes:  (4) excellent educational system that prepares Americans to compete in a high tech global economy; (5) affordable access to excellent health care that is not chargeable to American industry; (6) tax incentives to facilitate energy independence and create low energy costs for American industry; and (7) non-involvement in hopeless foreign wars that destroy American families and place an unnecessary financial burden on American taxpayers and prevents the necessary construction and maintenance of excellent infrastructure in the areas of education, health care, and high technology research and development.</p>
<p>My initial reaction to Friedman’s videos is that they are quaint, anachronistic, and fail almost completely to deal with the actual reality of high tech global industrial competition in the 21st Century.  The truth is that the world has changed radically since 1980.  Governments worldwide now play an active role in creating competitive advantages for their domestic industries to the detriment of international competitors.   As a direct result of our government’s failure, as its first priority, to create and maintain an environment in which high technology industries can take root, survive, and thrive in America, the greatest economy in the history of the world has steadily deindustrialized and is now on the verge of bankruptcy. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWM08DzTuhY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWM08DzTuhY</a></p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/the-post-american-and-post-communist-world/comment-page-1/#comment-5376670</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 04:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very good. Now remember that Friedman is only providing a framework to maximize productivity. He&#039;s not suggesting that charity or &quot;welfare&quot; is always bad but that you&#039;ve got to be very careful about managing programs and not getting caught up in what seems like it should work in spite of evidence to the contrary.


Put another way, it&#039;s not going to guide you to solve all of the problems that people want to solve but it does help understand how to build maximum wealth so that we can then argue about charity from a position of strength rather than mere theoretical solutions about &quot;social justice.&quot; Creating wealth is separate from dividing it up. 


It&#039;s not that we&#039;re saying &quot;let them eat cake&quot; but &quot;let&#039;s all learn how to get the most cake before we worry about dividing it.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good. Now remember that Friedman is only providing a framework to maximize productivity. He&#8217;s not suggesting that charity or &#8220;welfare&#8221; is always bad but that you&#8217;ve got to be very careful about managing programs and not getting caught up in what seems like it should work in spite of evidence to the contrary.</p>
<p>Put another way, it&#8217;s not going to guide you to solve all of the problems that people want to solve but it does help understand how to build maximum wealth so that we can then argue about charity from a position of strength rather than mere theoretical solutions about &#8220;social justice.&#8221; Creating wealth is separate from dividing it up. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that we&#8217;re saying &#8220;let them eat cake&#8221; but &#8220;let&#8217;s all learn how to get the most cake before we worry about dividing it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/the-post-american-and-post-communist-world/comment-page-1/#comment-5376662</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Texas Patriot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks.  I remember watching those in 1980, and I was very impressed.  I’m looking forward to revisiting Friedman’s theories thirty-four years and a million miles later.  I’ll report back when I finish.  Thanks again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.  I remember watching those in 1980, and I was very impressed.  I’m looking forward to revisiting Friedman’s theories thirty-four years and a million miles later.  I’ll report back when I finish.  Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/the-post-american-and-post-communist-world/comment-page-1/#comment-5376633</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My objection to fascism and socialism in general is not without sound reason. Isms in economics and politics are used to deceive people, partly because the believers are themselves deceived. Deception is not good when putting together a framework for creating policies on anything - unless deception is your end goal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My objection to fascism and socialism in general is not without sound reason. Isms in economics and politics are used to deceive people, partly because the believers are themselves deceived. Deception is not good when putting together a framework for creating policies on anything &#8211; unless deception is your end goal.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;To stick with what you think is the right “ism&quot; whether it works or not?&quot;

I&#039;m anti-ism. That&#039;s what works best in business. You don&#039;t get the final say on anything if all you can present are vague ideas. You must prove your theories.

&quot;What good is it to have the right “ism&quot; if your civilization collapses because it wasn’t competitive economically?&quot;



We (I, and by that I mean we should) want to remove the isms when putting together productive policies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To stick with what you think is the right “ism&#8221; whether it works or not?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m anti-ism. That&#8217;s what works best in business. You don&#8217;t get the final say on anything if all you can present are vague ideas. You must prove your theories.</p>
<p>&#8220;What good is it to have the right “ism&#8221; if your civilization collapses because it wasn’t competitive economically?&#8221;</p>
<p>We (I, and by that I mean we should) want to remove the isms when putting together productive policies.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/the-post-american-and-post-communist-world/comment-page-1/#comment-5376626</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Whoever attracts more industry and more investment, creates more jobs, and exports more goods will prosper and survive.&quot;



Whoever attracts winners that can maximize productivity will win. You want to attract &quot;jobs&quot; with social justice metrics? Count how many guys are at work? Is that the driving factor? No it is not.


You can&#039;t sort out the fundamentals so you don&#039;t know which policies will win in the end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Whoever attracts more industry and more investment, creates more jobs, and exports more goods will prosper and survive.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whoever attracts winners that can maximize productivity will win. You want to attract &#8220;jobs&#8221; with social justice metrics? Count how many guys are at work? Is that the driving factor? No it is not.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t sort out the fundamentals so you don&#8217;t know which policies will win in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/the-post-american-and-post-communist-world/comment-page-1/#comment-5376625</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Guess what. This is not about “isms”. It’s about economics and productivity.&quot;



It is about &quot;ism&quot; if your &quot;ism&quot; leads you to conclude that 2 + 2 is some times 5 and other times 3. That can effect your productivity quite a bit but it also enables you to lie about it.


Hey, no worries then -  I guess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Guess what. This is not about “isms”. It’s about economics and productivity.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is about &#8220;ism&#8221; if your &#8220;ism&#8221; leads you to conclude that 2 + 2 is some times 5 and other times 3. That can effect your productivity quite a bit but it also enables you to lie about it.</p>
<p>Hey, no worries then &#8211;  I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Take off your blinders. Unless you are willing to concede that the neoconservative “globalization&quot; agenda pursued by the Republican Party since Richard Nixon has been an absolute disaster for the American people, you have taken sides whether you know it or not.&quot;



Here we are discussing best practices for businesses and ideal GDP policies and you&#039;re making accusations that are not true and not even directly related to what I&#039;ve said.


I&#039;m not a Republican. I simply state that the Republican Party is vastly superior to the DP. But they&#039;ve been corrupted by the need to morph in to something that competes for popularity by leaning left rather than charting a winning course for America and accepting that they might do more good for the country by articulating winning ideas as the opposition party instead of trying to win each and every immediate election.


Of course I&#039;ve taken sides because at some point it&#039;s foolish not to. It&#039;s foolish to say you don&#039;t like both so you therefore can&#039;t pick which is better. I don&#039;t lie about it when I do. Picking sides after an objective evaluation is not partisan. I have zero loyalty towards any politician or party. Period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Take off your blinders. Unless you are willing to concede that the neoconservative “globalization&#8221; agenda pursued by the Republican Party since Richard Nixon has been an absolute disaster for the American people, you have taken sides whether you know it or not.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here we are discussing best practices for businesses and ideal GDP policies and you&#8217;re making accusations that are not true and not even directly related to what I&#8217;ve said.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a Republican. I simply state that the Republican Party is vastly superior to the DP. But they&#8217;ve been corrupted by the need to morph in to something that competes for popularity by leaning left rather than charting a winning course for America and accepting that they might do more good for the country by articulating winning ideas as the opposition party instead of trying to win each and every immediate election.</p>
<p>Of course I&#8217;ve taken sides because at some point it&#8217;s foolish not to. It&#8217;s foolish to say you don&#8217;t like both so you therefore can&#8217;t pick which is better. I don&#8217;t lie about it when I do. Picking sides after an objective evaluation is not partisan. I have zero loyalty towards any politician or party. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/the-post-american-and-post-communist-world/comment-page-1/#comment-5376620</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Although you say you haven’t taken sides and don’t have a dog in this hunt, you are quick to criticize the “progressives” (whoever and whatever they are). &quot;



Progressives (in politics) are those who take for granted that the government is both capable and responsible for driving progress.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Although you say you haven’t taken sides and don’t have a dog in this hunt, you are quick to criticize the “progressives” (whoever and whatever they are). &#8221;</p>
<p>Progressives (in politics) are those who take for granted that the government is both capable and responsible for driving progress.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;That’s not an objective analysis or a factual analysis. It’s a political analysis which blames the other guy.&quot;

It&#039;s a summary of my objective analysis. People might use the same arguments in political conversations but that doesn&#039;t negate the value. What matters is whether the facts support what I claim.

Blame the other guy? Well we can&#039;t ever do that. THAT sounds like a political statement.

&quot;A big part of our failure to remain competitive in high technology and high value added manufacturing is the fact that we have thrown away trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of American lives fighting foreign wars that had no chance of benefitting the American people in any way, shape or form.&quot;



In theory and probably in reality that&#039;s a small part of it. But it&#039;s not something we&#039;re burdened with long term because it&#039;s widely agreed that we need to manage costs better and avoid self-defeating military expeditions.


And aside from that, nothing I&#039;ve said argues against dealing with waste in defense. If anything, cleaning house in domestic policies will clear up resources and allow us to focus on all of our enterprises.


I&#039;m trying to get to the root problems and you&#039;re telling me that I&#039;m politically incorrect. You&#039;re making it political, not me. The problem with the DP is that they live by these fallacies and the problem with the RP is that they go along with them. I have no ox to gore here. 


You&#039;re getting confused because you make too many assumptions and some of them are false. That&#039;s how these ideas are allowed to prosper. You&#039;re one of the dupes on the right who goes along with some theories of the left. It seems &quot;natural&quot; to you and that is how they seduce would-be conservatives: Make leftist ideas seem scientific and organic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That’s not an objective analysis or a factual analysis. It’s a political analysis which blames the other guy.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a summary of my objective analysis. People might use the same arguments in political conversations but that doesn&#8217;t negate the value. What matters is whether the facts support what I claim.</p>
<p>Blame the other guy? Well we can&#8217;t ever do that. THAT sounds like a political statement.</p>
<p>&#8220;A big part of our failure to remain competitive in high technology and high value added manufacturing is the fact that we have thrown away trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of American lives fighting foreign wars that had no chance of benefitting the American people in any way, shape or form.&#8221;</p>
<p>In theory and probably in reality that&#8217;s a small part of it. But it&#8217;s not something we&#8217;re burdened with long term because it&#8217;s widely agreed that we need to manage costs better and avoid self-defeating military expeditions.</p>
<p>And aside from that, nothing I&#8217;ve said argues against dealing with waste in defense. If anything, cleaning house in domestic policies will clear up resources and allow us to focus on all of our enterprises.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to get to the root problems and you&#8217;re telling me that I&#8217;m politically incorrect. You&#8217;re making it political, not me. The problem with the DP is that they live by these fallacies and the problem with the RP is that they go along with them. I have no ox to gore here. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re getting confused because you make too many assumptions and some of them are false. That&#8217;s how these ideas are allowed to prosper. You&#8217;re one of the dupes on the right who goes along with some theories of the left. It seems &#8220;natural&#8221; to you and that is how they seduce would-be conservatives: Make leftist ideas seem scientific and organic.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/the-post-american-and-post-communist-world/comment-page-1/#comment-5376617</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Texas Patriot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OFM:  &quot;They&#039;re pivoting from socialism that supposedly was working towards pure communism to fascism, which is another flavor of socialism.”

Guess what.  This is not about “isms”.   It’s about economics and productivity.  Whoever attracts more industry and more investment, creates more jobs, and exports more goods will prosper and survive.  Whoever doesn’t will decline and die.  Is that what you want?  To stick with what you think is the right “ism&quot; whether it works or not?  What good is it to have the right “ism&quot; if your civilization collapses because it wasn’t competitive economically?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OFM:  &#8220;They&#8217;re pivoting from socialism that supposedly was working towards pure communism to fascism, which is another flavor of socialism.”</p>
<p>Guess what.  This is not about “isms”.   It’s about economics and productivity.  Whoever attracts more industry and more investment, creates more jobs, and exports more goods will prosper and survive.  Whoever doesn’t will decline and die.  Is that what you want?  To stick with what you think is the right “ism&#8221; whether it works or not?  What good is it to have the right “ism&#8221; if your civilization collapses because it wasn’t competitive economically?</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Texas Patriot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OFM: &quot;What you don&#039;t understand is that our failures are almost entirely the result of trying to move to the left in response to perceptions about the &quot;good stuff&quot; of socialism.”

That’s not an objective analysis or a factual analysis.  It’s a political analysis which blames the other guy. 


 A big part of our failure to remain competitive in high technology and high value added manufacturing is the fact that we have thrown away trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of American lives fighting foreign wars that had no chance of benefitting the American people in any way, shape or form.  Instead of building better schools, finding better ways to educate and train our workers, lowering corporate taxes, providing tax incentives for research and development, sealing off illegal immigration and drug trafficking on our southern border, removing the burden of health care expenses from our industries, and generally creating a better environment to attract industries from around the world, we’ve spent most of the last sixty years with massive land armies in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan fighting against phantoms that did not directly affect the national security interest of the United States.   

Although you say you  haven’t taken sides and don’t have a dog in this hunt, you are quick to criticize the “progressives” (whoever and whatever they are).  Take off your  blinders.  Unless you are willing to concede that the neoconservative “globalization&quot; agenda pursued by the Republican Party since Richard Nixon has been an absolute disaster for the American people, you have taken sides whether you know it or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OFM: &#8220;What you don&#8217;t understand is that our failures are almost entirely the result of trying to move to the left in response to perceptions about the &#8220;good stuff&#8221; of socialism.”</p>
<p>That’s not an objective analysis or a factual analysis.  It’s a political analysis which blames the other guy. </p>
<p> A big part of our failure to remain competitive in high technology and high value added manufacturing is the fact that we have thrown away trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of American lives fighting foreign wars that had no chance of benefitting the American people in any way, shape or form.  Instead of building better schools, finding better ways to educate and train our workers, lowering corporate taxes, providing tax incentives for research and development, sealing off illegal immigration and drug trafficking on our southern border, removing the burden of health care expenses from our industries, and generally creating a better environment to attract industries from around the world, we’ve spent most of the last sixty years with massive land armies in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan fighting against phantoms that did not directly affect the national security interest of the United States.   </p>
<p>Although you say you  haven’t taken sides and don’t have a dog in this hunt, you are quick to criticize the “progressives” (whoever and whatever they are).  Take off your  blinders.  Unless you are willing to concede that the neoconservative “globalization&#8221; agenda pursued by the Republican Party since Richard Nixon has been an absolute disaster for the American people, you have taken sides whether you know it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Russia and China both know that their systems failed and they have already begun the process of rebuilding and retooling. We still think our system is working. It’s a formula for absolute disaster.&quot;



They&#039;re pivoting from socialism that supposedly was working towards pure communism to fascism, which is another flavor of socialism.


That gives the sovereigns more power in the short run but will fail in the long run. But they &quot;win&quot; if that short term power is used to successfully destroy or diminish competing (in the zero sum sense rather than cooperative competition) sovereigns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Russia and China both know that their systems failed and they have already begun the process of rebuilding and retooling. We still think our system is working. It’s a formula for absolute disaster.&#8221;</p>
<p>They&#8217;re pivoting from socialism that supposedly was working towards pure communism to fascism, which is another flavor of socialism.</p>
<p>That gives the sovereigns more power in the short run but will fail in the long run. But they &#8220;win&#8221; if that short term power is used to successfully destroy or diminish competing (in the zero sum sense rather than cooperative competition) sovereigns.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I agree completely. But before we will be able to do that, we have to be willing to face the fact that our system has failed, and failed miserably, and needs to be rebuilt from the bottom up in order to compete effectively in the global marketplace of the 21st Century .&quot;





What you don&#039;t understand is that our failures are almost entirely the result of trying to move to the left in response to perceptions about the &quot;good stuff&quot; of socialism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I agree completely. But before we will be able to do that, we have to be willing to face the fact that our system has failed, and failed miserably, and needs to be rebuilt from the bottom up in order to compete effectively in the global marketplace of the 21st Century .&#8221;</p>
<p>What you don&#8217;t understand is that our failures are almost entirely the result of trying to move to the left in response to perceptions about the &#8220;good stuff&#8221; of socialism.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://miltonfriedman.blogspot.com/

Watch the &quot;Free to Choose&quot; series and then we can discuss some things. The series doesn&#039;t answer every question but it provides a clear framework for intelligent debate.

Milton Friedman PBS Free to Choose 1980 Vol 1 of 10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Fj5tzuYBE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://miltonfriedman.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://miltonfriedman.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>Watch the &#8220;Free to Choose&#8221; series and then we can discuss some things. The series doesn&#8217;t answer every question but it provides a clear framework for intelligent debate.</p>
<p>Milton Friedman PBS Free to Choose 1980 Vol 1 of 10</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Fj5tzuYBE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Fj5tzuYBE</a></p>
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		<title>By: Texas Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Texas Patriot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OFM:  “Basically we&#039;ve got to go through a similar process to what the Russian state did after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, but we&#039;ve got to do it much better than they have so far.”


I agree completely.  But before we will be able to do that, we have to be willing to face the fact that our system has failed, and failed miserably, and needs to be rebuilt from the bottom up in order to compete effectively in the global marketplace of the 21st Century .  And it doesn’t look as if we are ready for that.   Russia and China both know that their systems failed and they have already begun the process of rebuilding and retooling.  We still think our system is working.  It’s a formula for absolute disaster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OFM:  “Basically we&#8217;ve got to go through a similar process to what the Russian state did after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, but we&#8217;ve got to do it much better than they have so far.”</p>
<p>I agree completely.  But before we will be able to do that, we have to be willing to face the fact that our system has failed, and failed miserably, and needs to be rebuilt from the bottom up in order to compete effectively in the global marketplace of the 21st Century .  And it doesn’t look as if we are ready for that.   Russia and China both know that their systems failed and they have already begun the process of rebuilding and retooling.  We still think our system is working.  It’s a formula for absolute disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 01:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;How about what your side is saying?&quot;


What kind of question is that?


&quot;Do they have any solutions besides more ridicule?&quot;


I think you&#039;ll understand how to better work through any suggestions that make sense if we simply review the fundamentals about how enterprises achieve success. I&#039;m not worried about who said what but about who is promoting fallacious ideas that are killing us. I have no political ox to gore. Period.




&quot;How about you? What do you say? Do you have any solutions?&quot;


Of course I do. But maybe your expectations need adjustment. Do you think the Soviet Union had a good thing going? OK, so what is your solution for Russia? Please keep your answer under 10,000 words and the world will be grateful. Thanks a lot.


My solution is to start with the fundamentals. If you find someone failing in the sciences and you look at some of their notes where they add 2 and 2 to equal 5, you&#039;re going to want to comprehensively review just about everything the guy is thinking about. They might be great at theory and other work but if the fundamental calculations are error prone, most of the work will probably be flawed. It&#039;s the same with policy suggestions. 2+2 does not equal 5. Until we agree about that, there is not a whole lot to build on. And there is no subjectivity to some of these fundamentals. You don&#039;t reduce costs by hiding them. When you hide them, they usually go up rather than down and they sure won&#039;t go down until you put together a reality based plan to arrive at that result.


&quot;How do you think we are going to get out of this death spiral if everyone is ridiculing the other side and no one is talking about positive solutions?&quot;



My ridicule doesn&#039;t contribute to the root causes. I&#039;ve given a lot of positive solutions but you&#039;re not tuned in.


Basically we&#039;ve got to go through a similar process to what the Russian state did after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, but we&#039;ve got to do it much better than they have so far.  We didn&#039;t go as far as they did with socialism, but we&#039;re making many of the same errors, integrating socialist delusions in to our policies. We&#039;ve got to root out those delusional ideas.


They say that the first step in solving a problem is recognizing the causes. Doesn&#039;t that make sense?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How about what your side is saying?&#8221;</p>
<p>What kind of question is that?</p>
<p>&#8220;Do they have any solutions besides more ridicule?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ll understand how to better work through any suggestions that make sense if we simply review the fundamentals about how enterprises achieve success. I&#8217;m not worried about who said what but about who is promoting fallacious ideas that are killing us. I have no political ox to gore. Period.</p>
<p>&#8220;How about you? What do you say? Do you have any solutions?&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course I do. But maybe your expectations need adjustment. Do you think the Soviet Union had a good thing going? OK, so what is your solution for Russia? Please keep your answer under 10,000 words and the world will be grateful. Thanks a lot.</p>
<p>My solution is to start with the fundamentals. If you find someone failing in the sciences and you look at some of their notes where they add 2 and 2 to equal 5, you&#8217;re going to want to comprehensively review just about everything the guy is thinking about. They might be great at theory and other work but if the fundamental calculations are error prone, most of the work will probably be flawed. It&#8217;s the same with policy suggestions. 2+2 does not equal 5. Until we agree about that, there is not a whole lot to build on. And there is no subjectivity to some of these fundamentals. You don&#8217;t reduce costs by hiding them. When you hide them, they usually go up rather than down and they sure won&#8217;t go down until you put together a reality based plan to arrive at that result.</p>
<p>&#8220;How do you think we are going to get out of this death spiral if everyone is ridiculing the other side and no one is talking about positive solutions?&#8221;</p>
<p>My ridicule doesn&#8217;t contribute to the root causes. I&#8217;ve given a lot of positive solutions but you&#8217;re not tuned in.</p>
<p>Basically we&#8217;ve got to go through a similar process to what the Russian state did after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, but we&#8217;ve got to do it much better than they have so far.  We didn&#8217;t go as far as they did with socialism, but we&#8217;re making many of the same errors, integrating socialist delusions in to our policies. We&#8217;ve got to root out those delusional ideas.</p>
<p>They say that the first step in solving a problem is recognizing the causes. Doesn&#8217;t that make sense?</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 01:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;And you think it’s funny because you think you know what your political counterparts will say?&quot;

We&#039;re talking about your ideas versus mine. I learned these things from direct experience. I&#039;m not promoting any party line. Maybe they&#039;re quoting from similar experience or from thinktanks that study the real world as it exists. I don&#039;t know.

But even progressive economists can&#039;t and won&#039;t dispute what I&#039;ve said. They just put a lot more stock in to other ideas about group psychology and so forth and creating an environment that &quot;seems just&quot; to the workers. That in theory helps worker productivity. Well that&#039;s nice. Maybe that&#039;s a factor and maybe it isn&#039;t. It&#039;s not a factor that we can quantify.

 Translation: Business strategies that work in reality might deliver the highest productivity, but if you don&#039;t cater to perceptions, you might pay a price at the other end with strikes and low morale. So who causes low morale? Those who breed ignorance rather than intelligence about how things actually work best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And you think it’s funny because you think you know what your political counterparts will say?&#8221;</p>
<p>We&#8217;re talking about your ideas versus mine. I learned these things from direct experience. I&#8217;m not promoting any party line. Maybe they&#8217;re quoting from similar experience or from thinktanks that study the real world as it exists. I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>But even progressive economists can&#8217;t and won&#8217;t dispute what I&#8217;ve said. They just put a lot more stock in to other ideas about group psychology and so forth and creating an environment that &#8220;seems just&#8221; to the workers. That in theory helps worker productivity. Well that&#8217;s nice. Maybe that&#8217;s a factor and maybe it isn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s not a factor that we can quantify.</p>
<p> Translation: Business strategies that work in reality might deliver the highest productivity, but if you don&#8217;t cater to perceptions, you might pay a price at the other end with strikes and low morale. So who causes low morale? Those who breed ignorance rather than intelligence about how things actually work best.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 01:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I say that is the underlying elements of profitability that they want. Low corporate taxes. Highly educated workers. Highly fit and highly skilled workers. High incentives for investment in plant and equipment. Deductions for research and development expenses. Great schools for the families of their executives. Great health care. Great cultural opportunities. ZERO responsibility for the health care of their employees.&quot;


You&#039;re pivoting smoothly from theories to false assumptions. There is no such thing as zero responsibility for something funded by taxpayers. K? Get over it. So do not forget that the driving factor is profit. Period. You inject your theories about what drives profit and get confused, thinking that you&#039;re supporting the cardinal rules. You&#039;re not.


 &quot;America flunks in all of those categories. Is it any wonder we’ve deindustrialized faster than any nation in history?&quot;



Dude, I already explained to you the problems, almost entirely due to unjust and unproductive intervention. You want to reinvent the ruinous interventions and give these interventions greater ability to destroy us. You&#039;re like the guy who criticizes 0&#039;Bamacare and says we need true freedom with single payer. You are somehow missing some important lessons in economics and how enterprises create wealth, and how parasites siphon that wealth.


Now. Healthcare funded by employers, when it&#039;s negotiated as part of compensation, can be a very good thing. That is far superior to imagining that if the government takes over that suddenly the environment becomes better for manufacturing. That idea is delusional. Someone has to pay. Best to make sure each enterprise is delivering maximum values. Your ideas involve playing the &quot;nutshell game&quot; with costs and accountability. And when you lose track of costs and accountability, corruption and waste skyrocket. It seems like a good idea to attract businesses when they are not obligated to fund healthcare DIRECTLY. But who will fund it? Either they will fund it indirectly, or someone else will. And costs will go up. That means profits go down for someone. 


These are just accounting games that corrupt entities exploit. You&#039;re making it easier for them (the corrupt parasites), not harder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I say that is the underlying elements of profitability that they want. Low corporate taxes. Highly educated workers. Highly fit and highly skilled workers. High incentives for investment in plant and equipment. Deductions for research and development expenses. Great schools for the families of their executives. Great health care. Great cultural opportunities. ZERO responsibility for the health care of their employees.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re pivoting smoothly from theories to false assumptions. There is no such thing as zero responsibility for something funded by taxpayers. K? Get over it. So do not forget that the driving factor is profit. Period. You inject your theories about what drives profit and get confused, thinking that you&#8217;re supporting the cardinal rules. You&#8217;re not.</p>
<p> &#8220;America flunks in all of those categories. Is it any wonder we’ve deindustrialized faster than any nation in history?&#8221;</p>
<p>Dude, I already explained to you the problems, almost entirely due to unjust and unproductive intervention. You want to reinvent the ruinous interventions and give these interventions greater ability to destroy us. You&#8217;re like the guy who criticizes 0&#8242;Bamacare and says we need true freedom with single payer. You are somehow missing some important lessons in economics and how enterprises create wealth, and how parasites siphon that wealth.</p>
<p>Now. Healthcare funded by employers, when it&#8217;s negotiated as part of compensation, can be a very good thing. That is far superior to imagining that if the government takes over that suddenly the environment becomes better for manufacturing. That idea is delusional. Someone has to pay. Best to make sure each enterprise is delivering maximum values. Your ideas involve playing the &#8220;nutshell game&#8221; with costs and accountability. And when you lose track of costs and accountability, corruption and waste skyrocket. It seems like a good idea to attract businesses when they are not obligated to fund healthcare DIRECTLY. But who will fund it? Either they will fund it indirectly, or someone else will. And costs will go up. That means profits go down for someone. </p>
<p>These are just accounting games that corrupt entities exploit. You&#8217;re making it easier for them (the corrupt parasites), not harder.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Patriot</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 01:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OFM: &quot;I&#039;m laughing because I think I know what the (progressive) &quot;solution&quot; is and it&#039;s heading in the wrong direction.”


There’s nothing new about this.  When I was finishing college in the early seventies, there were already textbooks talking about how unreasonable union bargaining tactics had cost America millions of manufacturing jobs to overseas competition and how entire industries had already moved overseas.  Tacking health care expenses onto the backs of American businesses is just another example of how Congress has killed the Golden Goose and left America as a empty hulk and mere shadow of our former manufacturing dominance and excellence. 

You say that profits are what attracts industries?  I say that is the underlying elements of profitability that they want.  Low corporate taxes.  Highly educated and reliable workers.  Highly fit and highly skilled workers.  Highly energetic and focused workers capable of operating the latest industrial arts and manufacturing technologies.  High incentives for investment in plant and equipment.  Generous deductions for research and development of automation, robotics, and advanced manufacturing technologies.  Great schools for the families of their executives.  Great health care.  Great cultural opportunities.  ZERO responsibility for the health care of their employees.   

Guess what.  America flunks in all of those categories relative to our top competitors overseas.  Is it any wonder we’ve deindustrialized faster than any nation in history?  It’s a disaster of monumental proportions, and no one is talking about it.  And you think it’s funny because you think you know what your political counterparts will say?  How about what your side is saying?  Do they have any solutions besides more ridicule?  How about you?  What do you say?  Do you have any solutions?  How do you think we are going to get out of this death spiral if everyone is ridiculing the other side and no one is talking about positive solutions?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OFM: &#8220;I&#8217;m laughing because I think I know what the (progressive) &#8220;solution&#8221; is and it&#8217;s heading in the wrong direction.”</p>
<p>There’s nothing new about this.  When I was finishing college in the early seventies, there were already textbooks talking about how unreasonable union bargaining tactics had cost America millions of manufacturing jobs to overseas competition and how entire industries had already moved overseas.  Tacking health care expenses onto the backs of American businesses is just another example of how Congress has killed the Golden Goose and left America as a empty hulk and mere shadow of our former manufacturing dominance and excellence. </p>
<p>You say that profits are what attracts industries?  I say that is the underlying elements of profitability that they want.  Low corporate taxes.  Highly educated and reliable workers.  Highly fit and highly skilled workers.  Highly energetic and focused workers capable of operating the latest industrial arts and manufacturing technologies.  High incentives for investment in plant and equipment.  Generous deductions for research and development of automation, robotics, and advanced manufacturing technologies.  Great schools for the families of their executives.  Great health care.  Great cultural opportunities.  ZERO responsibility for the health care of their employees.   </p>
<p>Guess what.  America flunks in all of those categories relative to our top competitors overseas.  Is it any wonder we’ve deindustrialized faster than any nation in history?  It’s a disaster of monumental proportions, and no one is talking about it.  And you think it’s funny because you think you know what your political counterparts will say?  How about what your side is saying?  Do they have any solutions besides more ridicule?  How about you?  What do you say?  Do you have any solutions?  How do you think we are going to get out of this death spiral if everyone is ridiculing the other side and no one is talking about positive solutions?</p>
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