What is a “Contested Religious Site” Anyway?

Religion-Of-Peace

CBS’ Nora O’Donnell got a lot of flak for describing the murder of four Rabbis in a Jerusalem synagogue as taking place “at a contested religious site in Jerusalem.”

Honest Reporting points out that “There is, of course, nothing “contested” about the Har Nof synagogue where the terror attack took place. Nor is there anything “contested” about Har Nof itself, a Jewish neighborhood in the western side of Jerusalem.”

But in fact Muslims contest the western side of Jerusalem as much as they contest the eastern side of Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, Haifa or for that matter Madrid.

It’s just a matter of what arguments their spokespeople find tactically useful to put forward at any given time. Or what arguments their media collaborators find it worthwhile to advance.

They didn’t lead with demands for the ethnic cleansing of Jews from any part of Jerusalem because that would have nuked the whole thing right there. They waited for Israel to hand over other parts of its land to the Muslim terrorists.

Nora O’Donnell is of course correct. Har Nof is contested. Certainly the synagogue is.

Muslims murdered four Jews there. How can it then not be contested? The very definition of contested is a place that Muslims kill people in.

Now that Muslims have killed people in that synagogue, it is now contested. It must be negotiated for. Obama and Kerry must demand that Israel cede it. Peres, assorted leftists and sellout security chiefs with villas in Paris and Los Angeles must insist that Israel has no use for the synagogue and would be better off without it.

And the one after that. And the one after that.

Any place that Muslims kill people in is contested. And the only way to end the cycle of violence is to turn that place over to them. Until there are no more places left. Anywhere.

And then there will be peace. The terrible final peace of Islam.

  • mollysdad

    How about this?

    Israel shall be Muslim-free.

    From the river to the sea.

    • iluvisrael

      works for me

  • Texas Patriot

    A contested religious site is one that one religion steals from another religion and then tries to keep out the people they stole it from. It’s what Muslims have been doing for the last 1400 years. They did it at Mecca and Medina and Damascus and Constantinople and Cordoba and countless Christian, Jewish, Zoroastrian, Buddhist religious sites throughout the Middle East, Asia Minor, Spain, and North Africa. ISIS is doing it today in Iraq and Syria, and Boko Haram is doing it in Nigeria.

    But the biggest theft of all was the theft by invading Muslim armies of the Temple of David and Solomon in Jerusalem, and that’s why they don’t want to give it up. But it will only be contested for as long as Jews allow Muslims to keep what they have stolen. Once the Jews take it back, it won’t be contested anymore, and he same goes for all of the other religious sites that have been stolen by invading Muslim armies.

    Everyone knows that a thief has no right to keep what he has stolen, and if the original owners recover what is theirs, the matter is returned to the original status quo, and the controversy goes away. Thieves may not like having to give back what they have stolen, but they know they have no right to complain.

    • Lightbringer

      The Hindus of India, who suffered horrific atrocities at the hands of Muslim invaders, still know how to deal with them. They burn down the mosques that were built on the ruins of their temples. We can learn a lot from them.

      • Softly Bob

        That’s the problem, we don’t know how to deal with them because never in our history have we had to deal with them in a position of inferiority. The Hindus of India know how to deal with them and so do the Sikhs. The Serbs do too.
        If that traitor Clinton hadn’t vilified the Serbs in the 1990s and had not helped the Muslims, the terrorist portal and rogue state Kosovo wouldn’t be a breeding ground for jihadists today.

        • Lightbringer

          Excellent observations, Bob. I suspected that the Clinton government was backing the wrong side in the ’90′s and have since become convinced that it was. The Serbs deserve our support — and our apologies.

    • Space Cowboy

      The sole fundamental purpose of mainstream orthodox Islam (the only kind) is to convert all infidels to Islam or to otherwise kill or subjugate them via jihad and the eventual imposition of Sharia to ultimately make Islam and its followers supreme. Thus, any and all religious sites that aren’t Islamic, as for as Islam is concerned, is an abomination that must be eradicated.

      • NSNZ

        Wherever they put their feet “belongs to them”. That should be warning enough to slam shut all borders.

    • madge hirsch

      Are you going to give back America to the Indians. Maybe start with giving Texas back to the Comanche.

      • Texas Patriot

        MH: Are you going to give back America to the Indians. Maybe start with giving Texas back to the Comanche.

        Hahaha. There are no more Commanches. They were mostly starved to death after the Civil War by General Sheridan and his policy of “destroying the commissary of the Indians by killing the buffalo”. Historically, the Commanches never claimed the land anyway. They just hunted on it and were perpetually at war with other tribes that infringed their hunting rights. The Spanish were the ones who first claimed title to the land. Then it was the Mexican Government who first invited white settlers into Texas. The Revolution came when Santa Ana tore up the Mexican Constitution and declared himself absolute dictator and the “Napoleon of the West”. When Sam Houston captured him after the Battle of San Jacinto, Santa Ana signed away all the rights to Texas in exchange for his life and his freedom. The rest is history. We hold good title to Texas, and we don’t intend to give it away.

        • madge hirsch

          Nation founded on genocide filled with people who are just too dumb to realise it.

          • Texas Patriot

            For the most part, American Indians had been tribal nomads, living off the land, and committing the most hideous kinds of atrocities against one another since time immemorial. European settlement put an end to all of that. The American Declaration of Independence was a landmark document in human progress towards the ideals of individual freedom, human rights, and constitutional democracy which are still misunderstood and vastly under-appreciated even to this day.

          • http://raycaruso.com Ray Caruso

            Except for Iceland and a few other isolated islands, there isn’t a country in the world that wasn’t once inhabited by an ethnic group different from the one that currently occupies it. Japan was home to the Ainu before the Japanese got there and Ireland had pre-Celtic peoples. And yet you single out the United States for opprobrium because you are not only a hypocrite but a singularly stupid individual. “Western ideals of individual freedom, human rights” were not for the Comanches because, much as Muslims do today, they would have laughed at the notion. As Texas Patriot alluded to, robbery, murder, rape, and torture were a way of life for the Comanches, and that was true in their dealings with other Indians as well as with whites. What’s more, whites likely arrived in Texas before the Comanches rode over from Wyoming. So, no, we won’t be “returning” what doesn’t belong to them.

            By the way, thank you for posting and demonstrating (once again) how truly ignorant and despicable liberals are.

          • madge hirsch

            If I single out the US as you say it is because the denizens seem to be less aware of the nasty bits of their history. Most European countries have acknowledged their colonial pasts and their imperial exploitation of other peoples. Your nasty bits happened within the same timescale as the colonial exploitation of Africa and large parts of Asia indeed in recent history rather than in the mists of time. As such, acts of robbery, murder, rape and torture on the part of the US army are well documented. As is the attempted genocides by means of handing out smallpox infectd blankets and wholesale slaughter of the buffalo. I am perfectly aware that both my native and adopted countries in Europe behaved equally badly towards the people whose countries we colonised. The difference is that eventually we gave the counties back and stopped trying to justify our behavior. As for being stupid you do not seem to realise that your attitude actually places you pretty close to the Muslims many of whom also can never see anything morally reprehensible in their behaviour or the behaviour of their ancestors toward those that they disposessed.
            No matter how you look at it or try to spin it America was not an uninhabited country and the greed for land and gold led to attempted genocide. To say that people who were the products of the European Enlightenment should not accord a stone age people any rights but behave in the same manner is pathetic.

          • http://raycaruso.com Ray Caruso

            We accorded them plenty of rights. That’s why there are more American Indians today than in the time of Columbus and with an infinitely better standard of living. Compare that, for instance, to the Turkish treatment of the native Armenians, or to the Lakota treatment of their linguistic cousins, the Omahas, and you see the obvious superiority of American and Christian civilization. Well, actually, you don’t see it because you’re willfully blind, but a fair person sees it.

          • madge hirsch

            Well I suppose if you see herding people onto bits of land that nobody else thought was worth living on, delivering them substandard and insufficient rations and trying to suppress their language and culture by forcing their children into boarding schools far away as giving them plenty of rights you must naturally be a “fair” person. Come off it. The abuses of your Indian agencies in the running of reservations were well documented. If you really think that that is “Christian” behaviour you are like millions of other so called Christians inside and outside your oh so superior “civilised”country-a hypocrite. The behaviour of European Christians in the Americas both north and south vis a vis the indigenous populations is nothing to be proud of. That does not mean that Western civilisation is not the best shot humans have had so far. It does mean that it has been far from flawless and it is those like you who refuse to face up to the historical crimes and injustices their own countries have perpetuated that are wilfully blind.
            As for being one of your scorned liberals I must be an odd one as I agree wholly with Mr Greenfield in his sentiments about Islam and Muslims. I also rather like your poem at the top of this comment thread

  • http://ruleofreason.blogspot.com/ Edward Cline

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    • http://raycaruso.com Ray Caruso

      Well, I can’t carry a tune, but you’re free to give it a go.

      • Space Cowboy

        It looks like the PC multicultural Muslim apologizers are out in full force censuring your posts the same way they have been censuring mine.

        • http://raycaruso.com Ray Caruso

          No, that’s not it. I tend to use the word “h-e-I-I” a lot and every time I do the post is temporarily held over. It seems to be automatic.

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      • Bamaguje

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  • birddog

    Texas every thing you say is true and what makes it worse is the west recognizes the “Muslim’s rights) when in fact they need to do the opposite. In Iraq they wouldn’t fire on the mosques giving the Islamics the idea Allah was on their side and we were bowing to the will of Allah. The right thing to do was blow the Muslims away and their mosques with them. In their minds if Allah” allows” us to destroy the Mosques then Allah is on our side.

    • Texas Patriot

      I couldn’t agree with your more. Those who follow the ideology of Islamic Jihad are the sworn enemies of the Western ideals of individual freedom, human rights, and constitutional democracy, and they need to be treated as such.

  • mathewsjw

    in the mode of a stopped clock is correct twice a day the CBS anchor is correct in that Muslims contest EVERY religious site of Jews, Christians or any other religion because Muslims are religious terrorists.

  • sandbox

    On a related matter, what about all the Muslim “settlements” in Europe. The various no-go zones or enclaves which dot the continent and are expanding.

    • Keith

      Obviously they are contested areas that need to be sorted out by the non muslim populations moving out of those areas, handing them over to muslim control and making other concessions. All in the name of tolerance of course

    • NSNZ

      Wherever they put their feet “belongs to them”.

  • Earthling

    Madness, sheer madness. Nora O’Donnell should be ashamed for calling this “a contested religious site.” I’ll bet she wouldn’t say that about a Catholic church if Catholics were hacked to death there by Muslims. She is either ignorant, heartless or totally brainwashed. I suspect all three. I don’t care what the Qu’ran says. It is not a contested religious site. It is a synagogue where Muslims savagely murdered innocent, unarmed people in prayer.

  • steve b

    HOW ABOUT THE ISRAELIS BLOWING UP EVERY MOSQUE IN ISRAEL AS A PRECAUTION. NOW THAT’S HOW TO PROTEST A SITE!

    • Bamaguje

      I like that.. the mosques become “demolished religious sites”

  • Space Cowboy

    It’s not a contested religious site and its not terrorism! Instead, its permanent and perpetual jihad to make Islam and its followers supreme, not only in Israel but also throughout the world. Jihad is far more substantial relative to just terrorism, as it is a so-called holy war waged against all infidels to ultimately make Islam and its followers supreme! Terrorism only involves a tiny minority of radicals and extremists. Jihad, on the other hand, involves ALL MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD. Terrorism is extreme violence. Jihad is world war!

  • Larry Larkin

    Muslim Definitions of ownership
    1. What’s mine is mine
    2. What’s yours in mine, I just haven’t taken it yet
    3. If I’ve ever decided it’s mine, it’s mine in perpetuity.
    4. Everything is mine!!!!!!

    • NSNZ

      That sums up their totalitarian mind set, as laid out by their guiding manual.

  • Bamaguje

    For Muslims, the entire non-Muslim world is “contested religious site.”
    That’s why Islam designates non-Muslim territory Dar-ul harb – land of war.

  • Mike Miller

    With due respect Daniel…the entire world is contested….

  • NSNZ

    Name me one country without the curse of islam.