Kitty Genovese: A True Account of a Public Murder and Its Private Consequences — on The Glazov Gang

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This week’s edition of The Glazov Gang was joined by Catherine Pelonero, an author and playwright who is the author of the new book, Kitty Genovese: A True Account of a Public Murder and Its Private Consequences. She discusses the details of this horrible murder, the bystander inaction that tragically surrounded it, and the controversy that her research and findings have sparked:

Don’t miss this week’s other BLOCKBUSTER edition with Elisha Krauss, a Staff Writer at and Co-Host of The Morning Answer on AM 870.

She discussed The Conservative Long-Game, analyzing how the Right can more effectively fight political war.

The dialogue occurred within the context of The Impact of, the new conservative media watchdog group started by Ben Shapiro with David Horowitz at the David Horowitz Freedom Center:

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  • Laser1

    Elisha Krauss and Catherine Pelonero were very good interviews. I like Elisha because she has common sense
    all over her. She brings that strength
    to her family and into the work place. I
    am sure we’ll see more of her.

    said something that really caught my attention.
    It was when she spoke about courage. She said that on any given moment the level of
    courage in a person can change or go up or down. Maybe it’s the risk level to themselves. That
    may be the factor that is associated to the danger that stops the person from
    acting. If they cannot identify the “risk”
    they wouldn’t respond to the danger. A soldier has been trained for high risk
    and therefore if anyone of the persons looking out the windows had training
    like that the outcome could have been different. But it was fear that paralyzed the on lookers
    into no action. So fear is the inverse
    of courage.

    • Tina Trent

      Don’t lose any sleep over it. Her story just repeats old lies.

    • William_Bradford

      “The difference between
      being a coward and a man is not whether you’re scared, it’s what you do
      while you’re scared.” – Staff Sgt. Jeff Struecker’s direction to a
      terrified Ranger prior to both rejoining the firefight in Mogadishu
      Somalia, Oct. 3, 1993.

  • aemoreira81

    Except for one problem: has Catherine Pelonero actually driven through the area or lived there? If she did, she’d realize that hardly anyone would have been able to see what was going on because that area has trees upon trees…blocking a view of the train station. The inaction can be defended…hardly anyone could have seen what was going on.

    • Fred Glass

      In March there were no leaves on the trees so the attack could have been seen.

      • aemoreira81

        The branches are just as dense along Austin Street.

      • laura r

        what street did this happen on? cross streets?

  • Abberline

    The myth of 38 bystanders has been effectively debunked as an urban legend concocted by the New York Times reporter and A.M. Rosenthal. in this well researched new book.

  • donna

    i read last week in daily mail that this is just BS. someone did call the police so this case really is much more about police accountability than the public. Now I lived in NYC during those years and it was the “wild west” for certain one understood walking alone at night to be a very high risk activity. I had plenty of close shaves living on lower east side. I do not think 911 was organized at the time but this is not an excuse if a resident called a local station they should have responded quickly.

  • William_Bradford

    What struck me about Jamie’s interview with Catherine was the development of Jamie as an interviewer. His interviews are more polished, less about him, more about his guests, more about what his guests can bring to the viewer, what his guests believe, and why they believe it . Very few interruptions, excellent questions that lead the interviewee into a direction of interest. Jamie is more relaxed, more certain of what he desires to convey – a pleasure to see the considerable growth, and personal development.

    Catherine’s prime question to us as humans is: are we best served, personally, by acting in defense of the vulnerable, in defense of the good, in defense of something larger than self, and perhaps dying as a result; or do we defend nothing and ultimately die rotting in bed at, perhaps, 93 years of age, having done nothing; having served no one but self; having aspired to nothing larger than self?

    • laura r

      to answer your last question: unfortunatly yes.

      • William_Bradford

        But Laura, we each get to choose. Prepare before the time comes that it is necessary for us to choose who, and what we will serve. Only then will we make the choice we have decided to make.

        • laura r

          censences reality chooses to be indifferent. then they rot as you say. that is majority, unfortunalty

    • 20pizzapies

      Indeed , now think about what you just said . btw – I agree 100%

  • Tina Trent

    Ms. Pelonero is shilling the same old discredited story about the alleged witnesses. That story was debunked a long time ago. Do your homework, why don’t you?

    Even worse, Pelonero’s book expresses veiled admiration for the vicious, corpse-raping thug who murdered Kitty Genovese — then raped her — because, you know, he got a fake college degree behind bars when he wasn’t breaking out to rape some more women or getting the New York Times to run full-page editorials advocating for his release, or hobnobbing with that moron A.M. Rosenthal who holds the record for repeatedly misreporting a story over forty years with the relentless re-release of his tiny book in which he made up all that stuff about the non-existent witnesses in order to posture as a world-class thinker and peacemaker.

    Even the Times was finally embarrassed enough to explain that Rosenthal’s story was invented by him in order to advance the Times’ official policy of blaming the public, and not criminals, for the crimes criminals commit.

    The Genovese lie was the beginning of a pernicious orgy of “roots theory” and “critical race theory” at the Times, a self-serving preen-fest that coincided with the bloodiest years of crime in New York City, crimes claiming thousands of lives, crimes which the Times spun as evidence only of white people’s prejudice until even they could not look away and lie anymore through the thicket of caskets.

    Their soft-soap retraction re. Genovese was published ten years ago. Ms. Pelonero got her hands on the story of the one neighbor who didn’t call for help quickly enough — though he did — and is leveraging that story in order to advance the ugly theme that “we are all responsible.”

    Oh, and Moseley was featured in Soros-funded efforts to re-write the Attica riots as an heroic uprising, now used to teach schoolchildren; Moseley used that project to try to gain release yet again. Angela Davis’ Critical Resistance featured in this effort to rewrite Attica as well.

    Once upon a time, that would have mattered to Frontpage — Soros money leveraged in a propaganda campaign to get a cannibal rapist-murderer out of prison on false claims of racial oppression would have mattered, but not anymore.

    • James Foard

      Well said, I agree.

    • laura r

      i wonder what glazov would say about this?? the point of his interview was to stress the indifference of people. so true, so dispisable.

  • Donald J DaCosta

    Elisha is a gem. The conservative movement needs a few million more like her.

  • James Foard

    “I didn’t want to get involved” said her neighbor Karl Ross. This is where we get the term “bystander effect”. We saw it in Nazi Germany, when the trains to the concentration camps passed by churches, and the congregants sang all the louder to drown out the sound of the death trains passing by.
    We see it in today’s shopping mall mentality as we turn a blind eye and deaf ear to the cries of persecuted Christians under Muslim oppression, and consider it more important to own the latest iPod instead of sending money to save starving children in Africa. Shopping malls are our current cathedrals dedicated to the great god Mammon.
    Being a Christian involves a lot more than saying “I love Jesus”.
    Matthew 25 says “Lord, when did we see You hungry, or naked, or homeless, or sick, or imprisoned and didn’t help you?”
    And the Lord said, “Verily, as you failed to help the least of these, my brethren, you failed to help Me. Depart from me into everlasting judgement”.
    Fearing God and loving your neighbor involves bearing a cross, self denial, and sacrifice. Our Lord said “A new commandment I give to you; that you love one another as I have loved you”. What kind of love is that? “Greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends”.
    St. James said “Faith without works is dead”
    We have made the way to heaven too broad, and too easy, yet the word says “Straight is the gate, and narrow is the way to life, and few there be who find it, but broad is the way and wide is the gate to destruction, and many are those who perish therein”.
    Wicked Cain killed his brother, as his spiritual descendants hate and kill Christians today, while apathetic onlookers say “Am I my brother’s keeper?”
    That being said, Kitty Genovese was not slain for being a Christian. She was a lesbian bartender living with her gay lover, yet still, Christ died for every sinner, and offers us the gift of salvation, if we repent, confess our sins and turn from our sins. The offer is open to all. Jesus saves.

  • Daniel

    prime question to us as humans is: are we best served, personally, by
    acting in defense of the vulnerable, in defense of the good, in defense
    of something larger than self, and perhaps dying as a result; or do we
    defend nothing and ultimately die rotting in bed at, perhaps, 93 years
    of age, having done nothing; having served no one but self; having
    aspired to nothing larger than self?”

    This was the primary ethical/moral question that Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn confronted his readers with in the legendary series Gulag Archipelago. Like a modern day Dante he took the reader across the moral wasteland of the GULAG and asked this very question in many forms using real life instances he knew of personally or that former prisoners shared with him.
    His conclusion is concentrated in a chapter called the Ascent where he concludes that it is better to die with honor than to live with shame. And to those people who always fall back on……”but I didn’t know!” – he uttered the greatest indictment to this convenient psychological alibi………..”You should have made it your business to know.”


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  • Abberline

    Karl Ross was a drunk (he was drunk that night) and a physical coward.

  • 20pizzapies

    This story is just recounting a terrible incident and making money on a book about it which will only interest those who A) weren’t alive or cognizant of it at the time and B) live in such isolation that they have never heard of incidents where NO ONE come to the aid of another in imminent danger .
    I was alive at the time and was not only aware of it but a relative lived within earshot of the murder , and knew several others who were,who also heard but did not see what was going on or exactly where it was happening . But ALL called the cops . No , no one dashed down to the street to her defense as most were in no position to do anything but shout out into the dark street in hope of dissuading whoever was committing the crime . Ive heard of worse instances of such tragedies in the last few decades , in fact there are probably some on You-Tube .
    There is no moral to this story , no lesson to be learned , no ethic to be commiserated , no one to be shamed or no ideology to be put forward . The streets were dangerous in those days but not particularly that neighborhood , I knew of much, much worse neighborhoods of those times . At that hour of the morning , you’d first have to be awoken , then cognizant of what was going on , where it was happening and who or how many were involved in the crime . The best most of those folks could do was call the cops , which they did . The cops didn’t get there in time through no fault of their own , that’s just the way it was .
    There is no moral consequence , not even any “woulda-coulda -shoulda ” .
    Of course the newspapers had a field day moralizing over who should have done what , innocent people were vilified , newsprint was sold , that ‘s about it . Just another sad story , one of many thousands in the City .

  • okiemama

    Elisha Krauss is awesome! And yes I think she is a rising star!