Sonnie Johnson: How to Change the Game

Editor’s note: Below are the video and transcript of Sonnie Johnson’s address at the Freedom Center’s West Coast Retreat, held at the Terranea Resort in Palos Verdes, California from March 21-23, 2014:

Sonnie Johnson: Hip-hop didn’t start ’til late ’70s, early ’80s.  By then progressivism had already infiltrated our communities, and we have been going through birth pains in the hip-hop movement since then.  This year, this summer, three hip-hop artists came out with albums and I put these albums – they were my favorite albums of the summer – and I put them together into one coherent thought using the names.  And it tells you progressivism in black America and how we fight to get out of it.  The three albums were “A Good Kid in a Mad City Will Turn a Born Sinner into the Gifted.”  And that’s what happened.  We have good kids being raised in bad cities, and they take what they’ve been given, and they turn it into a gift, and they put it out as a product, and they sell it, and they become multi-millionaires.  And it is a beautiful thing.  It is capitalism.  It is the American dream.

So, I start off most of the time with a Sonnie-ism, so I want to give you guys a Sonnie-ism.  This is how I mix conservatism with hip-hop, and this is one of my favorites.  Created equal does not mean equal results.  Because I can’t flow like Jay-Z doesn’t make it Jay-Z’s fault.  And it’s a simple, basic concept that we all preach when we talk about the Constitution, when we talk about our founding principles.  That’s what we’re trying to get people to see.  But it goes straight over their head.  But if you put someone in that they listen to and they care about then they start to understand it a little bit better.  And that’s what we want to do. But we also have another thing, where we say we don’t talk about the game, we be the game.  So, we’re not gonna talk about it, we’re gonna show you how we change the game, so that’s why I’m up here to do that.  And I hope you like it.

This is how we plan on changing the game:

I’m a born sinner asking the Lord why me. He said it ain’t about you, so let it be.  And when I question my role, he didn’t send me a priest.  He sent another born sinner to sing to me.

J Cole cowrote me a love song.  Freedom of jail, a purchase or sale, daughter in the womb, momma angel raised from this hell.  It was the end before beginning.  How you gonna change the world, curled in all its traps and sinners.  Well as far as that go, it’s only natural.  I explain my plateau and what defines my name.

Short story.  No need to fit it all in.  I live a life of compromise.  Backsliding is sin.  It was expected.  See the hue of my skin.  This sickness in my body, I don’t want to go and party.  The devil claimed my soul wasn’t good for nobody.  My girl is out tricking, my dude’s out dying.  God bless me, would he see the doctors were denying.  Then he called my name, and I couldn’t stop crying. But I stood in defiance, see.

‘Cause I’m gonna do me.  Not looking for no one’s goddess, not even from he. ‘Cause God wanted perfect. And in all honesty, I was not worth it.

Then 50 said God give me style. God give me grace.  God give me style and God give me grace.  And God used 50 to put a smile on my face.  And J said kneel before God and pray for a better cause, sometimes to no avail, and that made me wake up and stop feeling sorry for myself. ‘Cause if I went to heaven I had to escape hell.

And Kanye. Jesus walks and I thought I’ve been afraid of God for so long.  What can I do to right my wrongs?  And this is where the song switches. Because God said speak, so I let spoken word flow from me.  I’m not a rapper, so lyrics don’t flow from me, but I’m a thinker, so a thousand thoughts flow from me.  God said speaker louder.  What do you want from me?  Then he put a tea party in front of me.

Now I’m no longer black.  My fam turned on me. ‘Cause I try to paint a picture of the world I see.  That’s the meaning of hip-hop.  What it’s supposed to be.  How did I turn into the enemy?  And on the other side it’s few that believed in me.  I wear my ghetto on my sleeve.  Ain’t no change in me.  I’m the rough cut that God made of me.  Exposing my diamond now ’cause Cole sang to me.  Hip-hop sung me a love song.

Politics are archaic, formulaic with the outcome.  They don’t know.  They just studied the charts.  Me I studied my black.  The people studied their hearts.  I had a feelin’ I was killin’ with the speeches I was spillin’ out.  I could change lives forever.

Keynote, big speech, Jay-Z is what I talk about.  It would have been mixed tape Jay Cole, but I was like, nah, I was wonderin’ why you were full, when two years ago I was sayin’ who dat.  Praisin’ hip-hop for its switch up in rap.  But as my speech is slow, I thought they must be insane.  But Bannen said play the game and change the game.  And then I heard my love song.

‘Cause I always believed in a bigger picture.  If I can get my people to stop the names, feel my core, I could open up doors.  Reintroduce honesty, show them they deserve more.  The difference between black leaders, poverty pimps, and whores.  I wasn’t asked to fall.  I was demanded to stand.  MLK on a mountaintop with a cross in his heart.  In his hand was a cross.  Not that civil right that you bought, so his statue removes Christ, and they call it art.

If this be my last essay, know it comes to my heart.  No apologies for embracing hip-hop as a art.  ‘Cause I’m here for a purpose, though I doubted to start.  I’m just a woman of the people, not above, but equal.  And for the greater good, destroy both sides of evil, so don’t cry for me.  This is a life I choose myself.  Just pray along the way I never lose myself.  And for those who said black conservatism is dead, I’ll go to hell to resurrect it, and I will be respected ’cause hip hop writes me love songs.

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  • DaCoachK

    What’s with Frontpagemag and its recent embrace of drive-by culture? If you want to lose a reader, keep it up. People who buy into rap won’t support anything this website espouses.

    • Niku

      You’re not alone. When you leave, I’ll be with you.

      • DontMessWithAmerica

        Add me and 85% of the rest of the readers. Who is the genius who decided to scuttle Front Page Mag? Inadvertently, Negroes gave America a distinctive music by combining Anglo Saxon folk songs and hymns with African rhythms which American Jews and Irish and Germans and other Europeans elevated to jazz and swing. As a revenge for slavery, perhaps, Negroes who became Coloreds and eventually Blacks and African Americans degraded the musical melange with rhythm and blues, rock, and the ultimate anti-musical insult to the human animal, rap. They had help, of course, from white crackheads and LSD-brain-dead hippies setting back American culture by light years. The very fact that this piece appeared in FPM indicates that even God, if one existed, could no longer help America. It is probably too late.

        • Race_Dissident

          It is interesting to note that America’s decline tracks with the deterioration of its musical tastes. That being the case, rap signals, even more clearly than the establishment of the Obamanate, that America is in its final death throes. FPM’s capitulation to musical savagery is a footnote to the broader collapse.

          • DontMessWithAmerica

            You hit the nail on the head except for one word. I would suggest revising “It is INTERESTING to note…” to “It is DEEPLY DEPRESSING to note…”

        • Seek

          Don’t knock blues or rock, Old Timer. They’re great art forms and have little to do with hip-hop. As for “LSD brain-dead hippies” (talk about a cliche!), any number of them invented the software you use.

          • laura r

            america is really ignorant, especially between LA & NY. its another world.

        • laura r

          well you are from the first immigration. im from the second. stay in middle america in your covered wagon. most music i listen too is blk. what does that make me? a white crack head?

          • Conservative not Republican

            most likely, yes. Plus a welfare leech.

          • laura r

            how did welfare get into this? huh? you & your friend need to stay behind the tractor way younder.

        • Conservative not Republican

          700 Club is also regularly featuring ghetto culture, though at least they do say that it’s mostly wrong to be that way.

        • tickletik

          Rhythm and Blues is bad?? What??! HERETIC!!!!!

          Get thee behind me D-Mess!

        • dennis x

          Blacks gave amerikkka its ONLY original form music, jazz. Which came from gospel and blues. whites had nothing to do with its origin!!

          • DontMessWithAmerica

            You got it all figured out, X. Gospel, with its old Ugandan melodies and those Ofay mothers was jes in de road. There was those great Africans, Gershwin and Berlin, and then ten gallon hat wearing Africans that twang that stuff they call country that right now outsells everything else. What I cannot figure out is why if you hate America so much that you even care about its music.

      • bob smith

        likewise. i am fed up with this BS.

    • Mo86

      My thoughts, exactly! There was not only one, but two stories on hip-hop listed in my email inbox from FP. Bizarre!

      • NAHALKIDES

        Then the editors chimed in, and now this – it makes four bizarre attempts to convince of something which is obviously untrue, namely that we Conservatives can somehow leverage Hip-Hop into more votes from the failed culture of the inner city.

        • laura r

          they wont convince you, but they may get new readers.

          • NAHALKIDES

            That’s going to work about as well as the Republican Establishment’s trying to get a new base to replace Conservatives.

          • Marsha

            How old are you, kid? I do not like the sound of hip hop. Never did, and I do not find anything “sexy” about 50 cent, JayZ, or Kanye. They make me want to vomit.

            You seem to be saying, “You either embrace this music or you’re a raaaacist.” Uh huh, right. Diversity is our strength! Whatever.

    • NAHALKIDES

      I just can’t understand it. When Torossian wrote that first “Hip-Hop is Conservative!” article two weeks ago, we commentators basically handed him his head. Undeterred, he wrote another, and then the editors wrote a piece of their own. It’s like they just can’t accept that Hip-Hop is not the magic key to winning 50% of the black vote; transforming the black sub-culture to the point it rejects Hip-Hop is. So they just keep doubling down, as if by repeating the same thing over and over we’re suddenly going to change our minds.

      • Race_Dissident

        I suspect the FPM powers think they have discovered a new angle in the culture wars, and because America makes a foolish fetish of originality–as opposed to improvement–FPM will pump it for all its worth. They think they are in on the ground floor of something big and important. Their judgment in this instance, is profoundly flawed.

      • cxt

        NAHALKIDES
        Excellent point.
        Plus the failure/reluctance/refusal etc. for the author/s of said works to address their/his critics is disappointing.
        Its one thing to engage ones critics—quite something else to “lecture” people without addressing their concerns.

  • WillielomanIII

    This is great. I only hope enough people in the conservative movement are smart enough to understand it. It is an off speed pitch, brothers and sisters and it is one many we need to make to take this country and its pop culture back from the progressives that are destroying

    • Niku

      Who wants today’s “pop culture”? Well, I admit that some do, but then, who wants them?

      • WillielomanIII

        Well, they are Americans and many of them vote. The whole idea of politics in a constitutional republic is to get good public policy…you can’t do that if the over 50% of the voters that vote primarily based on perceptions they get from pop culture are against good public policy with conservative values of freedom, hard work, liberty, and capitalism. We have to deal with the world as it is, not as we want it

        • NAHALKIDES

          But Hip-Hop, with its violence and misogyny, is against the very conservative values you mention! We can’t transform the culture by imbibing its poison, we can only hurt ourselves.

          • Poujadiste Recalcitrante

            Opposition to feminism is a conservative value. Remember that PC feminists consider any opposition to feminism as misogyny

          • patrickhamilton

            The PC feminazis can think what they want. Anti-feminism and misogyny are two completely different things. Feminism is itself misogynistic in that it attacks the natural laws and calls gender a social construct. It’s not. Evidence shows that gender identification is inherent.

    • NAHALKIDES

      Go back the past couple of weeks and read the criticisms we had of Ronn
      Torossian’s two articles on Hip-Hop and the editors’ appeal. I for one
      am not going to go over it all again, but as far as I’m concerned, our
      objections have gone unanswered.

      • WillielomanIII

        Well, that is because you do the Obama method…you set up a straw man and knock it down… There are many conservative values in the Hip-hop business and community…just because you choose instead to believe the propaganda and myths, or let some bad values completely cover up the good, does not mean you are correct. Many communities have bad values…Wall Street is filled with bad values…do you then say lets not allow investment bankers be part of the conservative movement? No, and maybe you should ask yourself why that is….

        • NAHALKIDES

          I’m sorry, Willie, but you badly misunderstand the situation. Republicans lose in the inner-city because the only values they have to offer are Conservative ones – the value of work, personal responsibility, keeping more of what your earn, etc. while inner-city voters think welfare is a way of life, they don’t pay taxes, and they go on having babies out of wedlock. To appeal to these people, we have to change their basic values and culture. For us to adopt their culture – which is a failure on every level – would be suicidal. In brief, we need to transform them to the point they think as we do, that Hip-Hop is violent, misgynistic trash, if we want to get their votes.

          • WillielomanIII

            Well, clearly your answer states plainly that you are a racist…therefore your opinion is not valued in an adult conversation between Americans

          • patrickhamilton

            How is he a racist ? He is critical of the culture and values which hinder blacks. I would call that the opposite of racist. It seems you don’t like free speech when the opinions expressed don’t fit your ideology. Resorting to ad hominems is a very bad sign be it from leftists or conservatives..

          • WillielomanIII

            Try taking a look at what you write. What culture and values hinder blacks? A culture that values hard work and honesty and capitalism? You assume black folks have a bad culture….if that is not racist, then tell me how you come to that conclusion?? Every culture has bad actors, including conservatives (see Pat Buchanan) and libertarians (see Ron Paul) and certain lefties (see Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and the current prez). Just because some folks involved in hip hop are have bad values, that does not mean all of hip has bad values. That would be like saying because Bush 41 was dishonorable and lied to the American people about not raising taxes, that all Republicans are as dishonorable.

          • NAHALKIDES

            It is not racist to point out that inner-city blacks (the black underclass, in other words) for the most part embrace bad values, unless you maintain (and I do not) that this condition is somehow endemic to black people. Values are something we choose voluntarily, and which values we choose determines what kind of culture we have. The values of the inner city, where criminal conduct, welfare dependency, and unwed motherhood are acceptable, have led directly to the failed culture of the inner city (including execrable “music” in the form of hip-hop) and the corrupt welfare-state politics of the inner city.

          • patrickhamilton

            See NAHALKIDES’ reply. I would concur with his comments.

          • Bamaguje

            Not all hip-hop is “violent, misgynistic trash.”
            But I basically agree with your other points.

          • Madame_deFarge

            Yes.

  • Brian Schiff

    ‘Bird Lives’ 59 years after his death-he didn’t write lyrics or claim to represent “the black community”;does anyone really expect anyone to seriously consider any rapper without a rap sheet,too many tattoos and three mf’s for every four words to be taken seriously ..”59 seconds” after they write their last garbage?Sonny Johnson seems like a nice person-but I would’ve boycotted the lecture-nobody would have an issue with the type of G-rated lyrics(although I don’t know why she had to throw in Jayz..with his taste in Che Guevara tee shirts) I thinks she’s trying to argue for aside from our own musical preferences.But that’s not gonna happen.Every time I get stuck in traffic-and forced to listen to the worst type of garbage forced upon everybody else-and played full blast-it’s by a Rap fan.I grew up in Detroit when Motown was at its peak and then tossed under the bus for token watt baws like Eminem,Gangstas “who represent the black community” and watt baw enablers like your pr hack who grew up in duh Bronx and Frontpage who I’m guessing is now planning to move onto a similar series on ..Country Western music;Duke Ellington is laughing his tuchis off..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue19D5YxJgE

  • seewithyourowneyes

    Oh, please.

  • http://libertyandculture.blogspot.com/ Jason P

    Go for it, Sonnie!

  • Charlie R.

    FrontPage Mag was once great. I’ve been reading it for almost a decade. But you folks have had your jump-the-shark moment with all of these stupid gansta/thug/hip-hop trash articles. Farewell.

    • NAHALKIDES

      I don’t want to leave just yet, but FPM is going to have to give up on this Hip-Hop nonsense if they want to continue to be taken seriously.

  • Servo1969

    So, this hip-hop thing is now a permanent feature of Frontpage?
    This makes as much sense as trying to work an Insane Clown Posse angle.
    Really. Hip-hop is 100% anti-conservative.

  • farrightwing

    I see no other way to break through the Progressive poison being fed inner city youth. By embracing rap, they can hope that it is a stepping stone to something better. Think of what it must be like being trapped in this environment with no role models worth emulating? How is change possible without being exposed to something better, i.e. faith, in the only language your culture has provided.

    • NAHALKIDES

      “Something better” would be anything except Hip-Hop! There are only two ways to transform the inner-city:

      1. Fight its culture of Hip-Hop, welfare, and single parenthood with music (any music is better than Hip-Hop!), work, and marriage.

      2. Cut off welfare and raze the projects. This would be harsh, but it would sure as heck force inner-city minority groups to change their ways, and for the better.

      • laura r

        you mean people sleeping the street? i dont think so. they need to change the welfare system big time.

  • cxt

    I’m getting really tired of these slobbering mash notes to hip-hop.
    That “some” hip-hop and “some” artists are a boon and do good work and help overcome bad situations is a given–and that should be noted.
    But pretending that others are not homophobic, women-are-only-good-sex, drug using advocates and proponents of a “thug” lifestyle is to ignore the obvious.
    This one sided approach is both inaccurate and off-putting.
    Besides there are probably vastly more republican/conservatives etc. that listen to country music than hip-hop–yet there are no articles about that musical genre and its contributions to the conservative cause.
    The most significant consumers of hip-hop–in dollar figures are white suburban kids.
    If hip-hop is truly a method to reach voters then I would request an article on exactly HOW it might do so. Not endless theoretical navel-gazing over its supposed value.
    I’ll ask AGAIN–in all the articles on this topic—how many of the “conservative” hip-hop artists mentioned–you know–the ones that are highlighted as for “conservative” values–how many of them are stepping up and “representing” ;) conservative causes and individuals?
    If hip-hop isn’t going to support “us” then the whole series is moot.

    • Sharps Rifle

      I listen to country (some) and classic rock. Most modern country “artists” are detestable…and some of their excuses for music are starting to sound less country and more rap. I can guarantee you that very few of the Nashville crowd are conservative…indeed, very few of ANY set of entertainers are conservative.

      Attempting to use popular culture to attract people to your way of thinking is also admitting defeat. Anyone who is dumb enough to base his vote on something said by JZ or Jason Aldean or Tom Cruise or whatever entertainment idiot is someone who is too dumb to be allowed to vote in the first place. Now I’ll grant you that entertainers are as entitled as the rest of us to have opinions, and they are just as entitled to speak their minds as we are. THAT SAID…unless said entertainer has demonstrated some level of intelligence or knowledge on a given topic, that person’s words should be given no more weight than they deserve. To focus on country, people assume that country musicians MUST be conservative because…well…aren’t rural people conservative? Most rural people are–more or less–but most country singers are URBAN in background. People assume that someone like Toby Keith must be a conservative because his songs have an appeal to people on the right (“Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue,” “Beer for my Horses,” as two examples). He’s a lib. Those songs may appeal to conservatives, but he isn’t one. Basically, basing your message on entertainment is a sure way to fail.

      I’m puzzled that FPM is latching onto this like a pitbull on a mailman’s leg…it’s just plain stupid. (C)rappers aren’t conservative…and with blacks voting 95 to 98 percent for 0bama (and 93 percent Democrat in general), as well as their well known antipathy for anything perceived as “white” (or at least “non-black”…what would be, in a sane world, called racism if any other group did such), this approach is a waste of time. Conservatism has always succeeded by appealing to those who think. (C)rap is not a thinking genre…most music isn’t, for that matter. Prog rock TRIED to be intellectual, and instead, came off as pretentious. Country couldn’t be a thinking genre if it tried! Plus, since blacks are a shrinking minority in this country anyway (between 11.75 percent and 13 percent, depending on source), trying to draw between two and seven percent of that amount into the conservative fold is a waste of time. Blacks who are inclined to be conservative will come in regardless of how much pandering is done to them. The rest…not likely. As for young whites who are into this, they’re idiots to begin with, and the whole concept of self-reliance, education and self-government is utterly foreign to them.

      Spare yourself the effort. Does FPM REALLY believe these morons are worth trying to win over? Our future lies in the direction of educating voters and trying to build their level of knowledge, not in pandering to those who have already surrendered to the bottom-feeding, low life, animalistic desires expressed in (c)rap.

      • NAHALKIDES

        Well-said. In brief, our hope consists in educating these people until they realize that Hip-Hop is pure (c)rap, at which point they will be more amenable to the Conservative values of low taxes, limited government, traditional families, etc. We need to pull them away from Hip-Hop, not move toward it ourselves.

      • Mo86

        I have to agree.

        On the one hand, I appreciate the effort in trying to reach out to a younger generation, a different demographic. I’m all for trying (nearly) anything to reach out to people.

        On the other hand, this is not just a musical style. You can’t just substitute different words and still call it hip-hop/rap. FPM doesn’t seem to understand that the violent, filthy, racist, abusive, gang-glorifying lyrics is what DRAWS these ignorant people to this style of music in the first place! (I find it hard to call it “music” at all.)

        That’s just the sad truth.

        • Servo1969

          Exactly. When people turn on Hip-hop they want to hear something nasty and violent. If the most successful HH artists were to put out a song that was even vaguely conservative they would immediately be branded as ‘soft’ and thrown in the trash. A new more violent and whorish artist would step up to take their place. People caught listening to the old artist would be hazed until they ‘got ther mind ryght.’

          • Poujadiste Recalcitrante

            Hip hop listeners would probably love lyrics violently bashing liberalism. Hip hop hates anything soft and weak. It glorifies traditional warrior values and masculinity of the sort anathema to liberals.

  • Dan Mesa/AZ

    “Culture trumps politics. Once every few years you can persuade the electorate to go out and vote for a conservative party. But if you want them to vote for conservative government you have to do the hard work of shifting the culture.”

    “Because if the culture’s liberal, if the schools are liberal, if the churches are liberal, if the hip, fashionable business elite is liberal, if the guys who make the movies and the pop songs are liberal, then electing a conservative ministry isn’t going to make a lot of difference.” – Mark Steyn

    Mark Steyn certainly has a valid point. I abhor JayZ, Kanye and the ‘rest’ but an effort must be made, or at least attempted to get into this culture. I’m as white as it gets, live in the largest concentration of Mormons (even more than SLC), I’ve got 3 kids, hip hop culture is alive and pervasive here in Mesa, AZ, not going anywhere.
    Do we close our eyes, turn our backs or do we do something about it?

    • NAHALKIDES

      We do something about it, which means we fight to educate people on just how awful Hip-Hop is – we don’t pretend to like it so that ignorant youth, unprepared for the duties of citizenship, will suddenly like us. We need to transform these ignorant youths into competent citizens, and we can’t do that by telling them they’re right, and hip-hop is good.

      • Dan Mesa/AZ

        It’s not trying to pretend to ‘like’ it, but using this force of hip hop culture to our advantage….somehow.
        Old school needs a jolt, we’re in the 21st century. Reminds me of DC Republican elite dissing the Tea Party

        • NAHALKIDES

          “Somehow” – the fact that you cannot suggest any specific means by which we can use Hip-Hop to our advantage speaks multitudes. Don’t feel bad – I can’t think of any way either. That’s because there isn’t any – Hip-Hop is the reflection of a failed sub-culture, that of welfare, fatherless children, poverty, lack of education, etc. These values, or lack of same, are what produced the dreadful phenomenon of Hip-Hop in the first place. Our political appeal can only be to those who value work, education, family, etc. It will take time to transform the failed culture of the inner-city, and Hip-Hop can’t help us do that.

          The 2016 election will be won or lost based on how well we appeal to white middle-class voters; future elections will depend on a gradual cultural transformation.

          • Dan Mesa/AZ

            I’m on board with just about everything you say. I’m not talking about embracing hip hop culture, it’s about tapping in to it….a la Sonnie Johnson.
            I’m guessing you know of or knew someone in the military recently, they can tell you how pervasive hip hop is. HH’s not going anywhere, as much as I despise its culture, I applaud the work(s) of a Sonnie Johnson.

  • cacslewisfan

    I still think the rappers Sonny cited in her speech are degenerates and promote all the wrong things, but Sonny’s rap was great. She is the kind of rapper a Conservative can get behind. I can’t understand why these articles authors insist on cherry picking content from lyrics instead of looking at the entire song. A verse out of context, isolated from it’s co-text, is a pre-text, as the saying goes.

  • Mo86

    I can understand the idea of wanting to reach out to a younger generation with the conservative message. But aside from a few exceptions, the majority of people who listen to hip-hop aren’t interested in the conservative message.

    Plus, most of hip-hop/rap is vulgar and does nothing but promote the “gansta” lifestyle, abuse of women, violence, racism, etc. I can’t see a clean version of hip-hop becoming the norm. It would be great if it did! But that would defeat the purpose of it, which is childish rebellion and being “cool” by being as vulgar as possible.

  • 1Indioviejo1

    Culture evolves. Yet Hip-Hop has been around for 50 years and it is still marginal, so what gives? I think it is still a good way to mark the stereotypical divides in the City. I think we will go our way and Hip-Hop culture can do what they like.

  • The Facts

    You eggheads have been playing with Hip Hop for two weeks now, and you still can’t get past Jay-Z and “selling it.” It is stereotypical of you, but predictable to reduce it to money.

  • Mark Koenig

    I must agree with the majority of commenters that this pro-Hip-Hop harangue is really beyond tiresome at this point. I don’t understand why Jamie Glazov, David Horowitz, and his son Ben Horowitz can’t seem to see the obvious fact staring them all in the face that the overwhelming MAJORITY of hip-hop music is culturally degenerate garbage which promotes NON-CONSERVATIVE values. No amount of wishful thinking or cherry-picking of the exceptional song or lyrics (or Sonnie’s fantasy conservative hip-hop lyrics) will change this. EARTH TO FPM – Exceptions to the rule DO NOT invalidate the rule! You guys obviously have some sort of knee-jerk aversion to acknowledging the obvious when it comes to this subject. It’s reminiscent – I hate to say – of David Horowitz’s lashing out at conservatives for criticizing Obama as a radical immediately after his election the first time. He initially tried to convince readers that Obama was a moderate in the mold of Bill Clinton! David came around after a few months – let’s see if the same happens with this topic.

  • Habbgun

    Are we going to have a conservative outreach for every category in the grammies? Who are the consultants that will get the money and can I get in on the scam, no I mean deal, oops I meant outreach.

  • Race_Dissident

    This rap offensive–double entendre intended–is about to make FPM the laughingstock of conservative Internet sites. What’s more, if it continues much longer, it may drive away many of FPM’s strongest supporters. I know I can’t stand many more of these fatuities.

    • Poujadiste Recalcitrante

      The cheerleading for the state of Israel is also driving away conservatives.

  • Kafir911

    What’s next conservative acceptance of tattoos? Hip-hop and rap are offensive but so is a 72% out-of-wedlock birthrate in the back community:

    “Among non-Hispanic blacks, the figure is highest, at 72.2 percent; for American Indians/Alaska Natives, it’s 66.9 percent; 53.5 percent for Hispanics; 29.4 percent for non-Hispanic whites; and a mere 17.1 percent for Asians/Pacific Islanders.”
    -Roger Clegg, “National Review Online”

    Sonnie Johnson is right that progressivism had infiltrated the black communities before hip-hop came on the scene in the late ’70s and early ’80s. Progressivism
    has also infiltrated much of the culture to America’s detriment thanks to the MSM, Hollywood elites, the ACLU and liberal politicians. I applaud her efforts but the bigger picture looks bleak until Republicans grow some backbone.

  • laura r

    i like her, & her delivery. still i agree that the worst of the worst lyrics/ image is what sells. she should have mentioned that. nars had to up pimp up his image several years ago to sell more albums. as a new direction, FP fails in this area. most of the readers dont care about the capitalist concept that hiphop embraces. its not the form they object to but most of the content. they also dont get spoken word, i do. they dont understand urban life, the streets, the creativity w/ hiphop graffitti art, i do. still i wont listen to violent or vulgar lyrics, even w/the best of beats. maybe the editors want to change their direction & attract another kind of reader.

  • Charles Martel

    I have some ideas.

    1. Let’s embrace the pro-choice crowd.
    2. Embrace the open borders crowd.
    3. Bring in the marriage to anyone, anything and any number folks.
    4. Embrace the socialists.

    Now we can all be one big happy democrat votin bloc all loving and agreeing.

    • laura r

      then rename the magazine? their idea is ok w/the hiphop they just havnt had the correct presentation. but still, most of americana wont go for blk music even if its in a church. its bangos all the way. FP may want to attract urban independents.

  • http://libertyandculture.blogspot.com/ Jason P

    Hey, if this gal can bring another viewpoint into the hip-hop culture, let’s encourage her. What’s with all the hostility?

    Now I’m not about to give up Italian Opera for Rap “music” but so what? The least we can do is wish this gal well and get on with our lives.

    • Conservative not Republican

      It is akin to endorsing sleaze.

      • http://libertyandculture.blogspot.com/ Jason P

        She doesn’t sound like sleaze to me. She has this “Christian thing” going on in her lyrics and that’s not my bag; but it’s wholesome. If she can make inroads in this genre, why not give her a boost.

        • Conservative not Republican

          Pay attention: she endorses sleazes like 50 Cent and that black racist midget Kanye. Just a few days ago, that idiot 50 Cent was supporting Russell Crowe and saying that Christian critics of the atheist movie “Noah” were “stupid”.

  • Conservative not Republican

    Let’s look at some of the “art” of religious expert 50 Cent that we should admire, it’s his rap ‘song’ called “Candy Shop” :

    Uh huh

    So seductive

    I’ll take you to the candy shop

    I’ll let you lick the lollypop

    Go ‘head girl don’t you stop

    Keep going ’til you hit the spot, whoa:

    • laura r

      not one of the better hip hoppers.

  • guest

    If republicans just wore big red clown noses, everything would be cool.

    Why don’t you shut up about hip hop?

  • Conservative not Republican

    FPM needs to change its name to CountryClubRepublicans.com Then feature lots of articles by GWB’s wife and daughter on how great gays are and how intolerant Christians are. That’s along with the usual articles on how everyone needs to support and even worship the filthy rich – even those of Hollywood.

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    April Fools!

  • DogmaelJones1

    FrontPage is trying to make itself “relevant” to
    the black electorate by pushing forward no-talent “artists” like
    Hip-Hoppers (their race and gender are immaterial), likely oblivious to the
    fact that blacks who are addicted to hip-hop don’t read, and that middle and
    upper class blacks likely prefer Swan Lake and Rachmaninoff or Frank Sinatra to
    “I-Screem ” and “My Woofers In Your Face” and “I Wear My Pants Below My Hip Bones, Deal With It, Honky.” The lyrics Johnson cites
    are irrelevant. It’s that aggressive, nihilistic, anti-esthetic, anti-music
    style that is not compatible with thinking, sentient beings. Individuals accustomed
    to expecting and hearing reasoned, calm, and civil appeals to one’s attention are
    repelled by hip-hop. FrontPage, get a
    clue. This is not the way to go about garnering support.

  • mendezjb

    Debasing yourself to appeal to the unobtainable is ill advised.

    We shouldn’t want the vote of people who lack the character, upbringing, culture and common sense to think differently than they do. Let them go.

    • Mo86

      “Debasing yourself to appeal to the unobtainable is ill advised.”

      I agree.

      And yet the problem is that we can’t just ignore the ignorant masses. They are the ones who helped get us where we are. We have to live in this nation together, and the choices people make will affect us all, whether we like it or not.

      I wish I had an answer. I don’t.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        They need leadership to offer answers. We can do that for some. And it doesn’t mean they reject anything but the lies. They can have their own culture, but we’re stupid to leave them wallowing in the lies fed to them by Marxists.

        Neither does it mean we must debase anything important.

  • Nameless one

    Went to a religious conference recently, and the lecturer said studies show that when people feel they BELONG, THEN they will begin to believe the message. So, it would behoove us to figure out what we can do to make others whom we WANT to be with us to FEEL like they want to be with us, so that they will THEN believe our message. It’s a hard row to hoe, it seems to me…

    • laura r

      the median is the message.

  • FrontPgSubscr

    ‘Hip Hop’ DOES NOT “have to have” a place in conservative dialog (as
    it were)!!! If it does, then conservatism -what we know it to be- is NOT conservatism!!! We must then ‘coin’ a new word: “collaborationism”.

    This is the continuation of a SILLY and FOOLISH argument! By WHOM
    have you all been taken captive? GET A GRIP, PEOPLE!!!!!!

    I’m t r y i n g to be ‘nice’.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      It doesn’t have a “leading” place, but those who relate to conservative messages do have a place. The point is that “hip hop” is not an outright rejection of conservative values. They sound like they’re singing about revolution some times…but they’re being manipulated. In some cases they’re having their own private “revolution” and need mentors not for material success but for developing a more coherent, reality-based worldview.

      In my mind it’s more about confusion and not knowing who the oppressors really are. We have many of the answers.

  • DogmaelJones1

    FrontPage is
    trying to make itself “relevant” to the black electorate by pushing
    forward no-talent “artists” like Hip-Hoppers (their race and gender are
    immaterial), likely oblivious to the fact that blacks who are addicted to
    hip-hop don’t read, and that middle and upper class blacks likely prefer Swan
    Lake and Rachmaninoff or Frank Sinatra to “I-Screem ” and “My
    Woofers In Your Face” and “I Wear My Pants Below My Hip Bones, Deal
    With It, Honky.” The lyrics Johnson cites are irrelevant. It’s that
    aggressive, nihilistic, anti-esthetic, anti-music style that is not compatible
    with thinking, sentient beings. Individuals accustomed to expecting and hearing
    reasoned, calm, and civil appeals to one’s attention are repelled by hip-hop.
    FrontPage, get a clue. This is not the way to go about garnering support or
    even, to judge by the majority of comments here, retaining readers.

    • Mo86

      Bravo!

    • laura r

      well written hiphop does make me think. its spoken word. its poetry. but its not good for FP, unless they want to lose their following. maybe they will get a new one.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      It’s HTML. If you don’t agree, that’s one thing. If you simply think it’s a waste of your time…that’s up to you how to respond. No web site can force you to waste your own time.

      I personally don’t like it. But that doesn’t mean I reject the people caught up in that cultural schism.

    • laura r

      i dont know how many upper class blks prefer swan lake. i doute most upperclass white listen either. you are confusing $ w/culture. i come form lower middle, i grew up w/opera. stero type lately?

  • DogmaelJones1

    Maybe Frontpage should cite or recruit thinkers like Allen West, Walter Williams, and Thomas Sowell, instead of “in your face” punks.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      All three have been published here.

    • FrontPgSubscr

      Good.

    • laura r

      yes. but they want to reach under 40 crowd, both races.

  • PatriotGalNC

    You cannot go to a foreign country, and expect the natives to understand your language. This is her point. I cannot believe y’all missed this. (Yes, I said ‘y’all’). Her point is that in order to communicate the conservative message, you have to speak it in the language the “natives” will understand and listen to. Remember that the rap genre is a favorite communication tool of a lot of people. Do I like rap music?? No. But, I am not a fan of opera either –mostly because a lot of them are sung in languages that I am not “programmed” to understand spoken…let alone sung. If a guy was standing on a box at the street corner talking total gibberish –most people would walk by as quickly as possible. But, if that same person was standing “rapping”…no matter what the guy is rapping about, people will slow down, if not stop and listen. If the guy is spewing out leftist garbage –people will listen to that and are unfortunately moved by the desperate, complaining tone of it. But, if the guy is spewing out the Conservative message…people will stop and listen too. Maybe if enough of these brave souls did that in the inner cities, we would get somewhere.

    • laura r

      well said.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      “You cannot go to a foreign country, and expect the natives to understand your language. This is her point. I cannot believe y’all missed this.”

      It’s an absolutely valid point. But…it’s primarily a cultural schism that needs to heal…perhaps with compromises of various kinds. So we don’t treat it precisely as we would when visiting foreign lands.

      But there are lots of lessons about reaching out and meeting people where they are today. Take it from there. Don’t run from the challenges.

      And I think that the most valid point you made is that the leftists have already infiltrated by appropriating and distorting the culture.

      These are our fellow citizens, many who are in the bondage of ignorance and cancerous, malicious indoctrination.

  • Douglas Mayfield

    After the phrase ‘This is how we plan on changing the game:’, the article above is just about unintelligible.
    Did anyone at FPM bother to read it before they published it? By what standard did they decide to publish it? And above all, who is so damn silly to consider our lives and our futures ‘a game’?
    If we’re going to change things, we will have to think, to reason, something which, based on their publication of this article, the editors at FPM appear to consider of no importance at all.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      When people reason together, they must start somewhere. If you don’t have the patience, that’ fine but. But you don’t speak for others.

      • Douglas Mayfield

        You’re right. I speak only for myself.
        You comment that ‘I don’t have patience’.
        Patience for people who can’t be bothered to communicate clearly and have a reasonable command of the language?
        Patience for people who babble incoherently in some sort of pathetic ‘group speak’ when the issues involved are crucial and affect the lives of every person in America?
        You’re right again. I have no such ‘patience’.

  • seewithyourowneyes

    Do they call it hip-hop because it sounds like a children’s jump rope rhyme? (Only usually very dirty.)

    I’m glad that Sonnie Johnson is smart enough to see that the progressive agenda hurts the black community. But she represents an infinitesimally small portion of the hip-hop community. And it makes me very sad to hear that Ms Johnson feels that the misogyny of hip-hop is “her love song.” Perhaps she might try Andrew Marvell’s “To His Coy Mistress” for a seduction song without the rufies and the rape. Or W H Auden’s “Their Lonely Betters” for a love song on the subtle side, with no crude anatomical references. Or Shakespeare’s sonnet 29 or 116?

  • GSR

    Why have no less than 3 conservative websites keep pushing hip-hop the last few weeks? BS. It’s crappy music and a sick culture.

    • laura r

      which other sites?

  • Michael Gersh

    As Breitbart said, politics is downstream of culture. You either make yourself part of the culture, or you can watch the world go by without your input. Hip Hop is conservative, if you omit the misogyny and violence, as Ms. Johnson does so eloquently here. Or, as many commenters here apparently believe, you make a racist enclave in conservatism, white, pure, and irrelevant. Luckily the racists are a fringe group here, even as racism and separatism is rampant on the left.

    • laura r

      she was good. looking @ some of these comments, im ashamed to be white. ive withdrawn my support for the wht working class in general. too dumb.

      • Madame_deFarge

        That is not news.

    • Mo86

      Pointing out the filth inherent in hip-hop is racism?

      “Hip Hop is conservative, if you omit the misogyny and violence, as Ms. Johnson does so eloquently here.”

      Do you really think stuff like this will sell? Seriously?

      People listen to hip-hop BECAUSE of the vulgarity, violence, misogyny and glorification of the thug lifestyle in its lyrics. That’s the whole POINT of this style of “music”!

      • laura r

        hip hop is libertarian & liberal. the masses do listen to the vulgar stuff.

  • hypotenuse_wolf

    This is the smartest reaction I have read on here so far! Yes, Donald J. DaCosta has it right. If you want to reach outside all of the usual places and bring conservative/classic liberal values to those who need them the most, you have to listen when people in these communities start working with the art forms in front of them, their own art forms, and creating a message that is contrary to the culture of progressive politics which has failed them. They are not suddenly going to change their entire cultural framework, they are going to speak in their own vernacular, and — play the music they have created over these last few decades. Putting that music in the service of new values, conservative values like taking responsibility and not relying on the state — like honoring commitments to family and to being honest, having integrity and not living a life of resentment toward the USA and white people, instead using the many tools and opportunities that are abundant here, this is a wonderful turn of heart and the only way that African Americans (and others) are going to survive as something other than an underclass with a few high reaching success stories. I think speech is fantastic and I think FPM is forward looking in going into a place some conservatives are not comfortable with. Conservative values are American values and they belong to all of us, and they are the only way we are going to get through the problems we have. I am so glad that hip hop, is being used to revive and spread those ideas.

    • Donald J DaCosta

      Aside from the appreciated kudos to me, well said and beyond my narrow focus. I watched Jamie Glazov interview Ronn Torossian on the Glazov Gang after writing this comment and realized that the latter’s intent goes far beyond just the black community and that Hip Hop is not exclusive to that community. This makes this controversial effort by Horowitz even more salient and worthy of some serious soul searching by the conservative movement, which has got to revise its view of 21st century, mainstream America if it’s to take back this country.

  • patrickhamilton

    I used to look at FPM every day. I rarely look at it now since becoming disilliusioned at what I was reading on the site some times. Today I did so out of boredom, and, know what, it’s getting worse ! This article ought to flag that up. FPM is really more of a LIBERTARIAN site, rather than a conservative site. It seems it’s becoming more and more so despite guys like Greenfield who seems more conservative.

    • laura r

      cross between libertarian & conservative. i am mixture of both, liberal on some issues. follow the journalists you like, use twitter. then click on.

  • Wolfthatknowsall

    I refuse to read any more articles on this filthy “musical” form.

    This is an appeal to David Horowitz. FPM is in the process of losing its credibility by advocating a connection between hip-hop/rap and conservatism. They are like fire and water, and are totally incompatible.

    Blacks will not embrace conservatism or the GOP because we turn our intellects off and ignore the effects of this movement. It will take about 50-100 years of “Detroits” for blacks to abandon the DEMs.

    It’s time to leave this subject alone …

    • laura r

      dont read what you dont like. i sometimes read bs here too, but its short. then i comment that it insults me. best for both of us to be discreet. they are trying to reach a new market.

      • Wolfthatknowsall

        And when they reach this new market, will they be a conservative website, anymore? But I understand what you’re saying …

        • laura r

          yes IF they play it right.

    • Hass

      Mate, I agree 100%.

      That sh*tty so called (Ghetto) music is nauseating.

  • Sijibomi Stevekweli Jayeoba

    i think the important thing here is not necessarily accept hip hop, but seek to understand it. if people think you don’t understand where they come from and that you are condescending to what they have grown up with, it is expected that they would be hostile to your ideals. young people my age(I’m 21) don’t have much interest in politics and are generally uninformed about many things, so they are easily impressionable by social factors, that is why it ay be hard to believe it but people will vote according to what their celebs think and say, and the democrat understand that, that is why they get celebs to campaign for them. imagine you had a couple of rappers, actors and artiste endorsing conservative ideals, this could considerably sway things for the GOP, instead of criticizing FrontPage mag, start thinking of ways you can accommodate the hip hop culture in the conservative tent that way you can attract a new voters base and that is the young. remember politics will always be a game of numbers and the GOP should everything possible to begin to “indoctrinate” the electorates if it is to win any election in the nearest future.

  • Sijibomi Stevekweli Jayeoba

    using my self as an example, as an African i couldn’t understand why whites liked rock, however i took it upon myself to try to understand it and after sometime i discovered that i didn’t hate it as much, i even like it on some days, the key is tolerance for other culture. even when wev feel oue culture is superor

  • chelovek5

    I’m rather skeptical of the idea that someone can be a conservative Hip-Hop/Rap fan. Other than the occasional catchy tune (usually created by stealing from actual musicians’ recordings), it’s pretty much the poster boy of cultural degeneracy and the liberal victimhood mentality.

  • Hass

    Every hip-hop act has the same sh*t. Some guy screaming disgusting, vile lyrics into a mic whilst grabbing at their d*ck every 5 secs while one or two home boys shout ‘yo yo yo’ at various intervals, all of this to a backing track ( mind you not a single musical instrument in sight), with four or five women dressed up as street pro’s in skimpy tops with b**bs bursting out and practically invisible skin-tight hot pants doing filthy dance moves gyrating as if being h*mped non stop.

    Yeah, I can see all those young Conservatives listening to that sh*t on the way to church.

    Hip Hop? No thanks, they can keep that Ghetto Trash!

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