The Battle Over Islam on the Streets of L.A. — on The Glazov Gang

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This week’s Glazov Gang was joined by Louis Lionheart, a Christian preacher who engages in open-air debates, dialogues and evangelism on 3rd. Street Promenade in Santa Monica, Ca. For information on his ministry visit his web site: TruthDefenders.com.

Louis came on the show to discuss “The Battle Over Islam on the Streets of L.A.,” sharing his experience of engaging Muslims about their religion on 3rd St. Promenade:

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  • Tommy Ge

    Love that sign! Points out the truth of the evil and deception of Islam.

  • Tommy Ge

    You think you are so smart, but you really don’t know what you are talking about. Your thinly veiled attempt to besmirch Christians by comparing their reasoned faith with the mental illness of Liberalism and Islam will not work here. Go troll somewhere else.

    • phoebeintheforest

      Spot on, Tommy Ge! It really is hilarious how folks like the guest-poster imagine themselves to be so intelligent!, so objective!, so reasoned! by putting all religions in the same category.

    • Tish

      excellent reply Tommy,,,well said

  • phoebeintheforest

    “Once you give your mind up to a list of commandments, secular or mystical, you’ve departed from reason all together.”

    Seriously? Have you ever actually read the 10 Commandments? Even a halfway intelligent atheist should be able to see the wisdom in them and agree that by following the 10 Commandments people will have healthier/happier lives and that their society will be enormously benefited by folks who live by the rules.

    As Jesus said: By their fruit you shall know them.

    Judaism & Christianity have produced ethical societies (no, not perfect, ethical), hospitals, orphanages, schools, universities, soup kitchens, medical missionaries who go to Africa to save perfect strangers from ebola, etc., etc.

    Care to make a list of the rotten fruit of Islam???

    • Tish

      Kudo’s to you also ForestPhoebe….both of you had well said and very inciteful replies to “guest” Putting all religions in the same category is false..The problem is islam and has been since the 7th century..I can’t even call it a religion, it is more of a cult..than anything…If a religion demands you to lie, smite others from the head up and stone people to death..walk away ! Fast

  • patechinois

    Excellent comment. I would add that I think you can boil down the difference between Islam and the Judeo-Christian religions into the ability to question God (or Allah). It is what separates Western Civilization from the ideology of Islam.

    The stories in the bible, whether you believe in them or not, were
    passed down by people with a mindset that allowed for questioning of
    their ultimate authority, God. From Cain being a smart aleck “Am I my
    brother’s keeper?” to Abraham actually bargaining with God, actually
    guilt-tripping him to spare the good people found within Sodom and
    Gomorrah (which, btw, is completely stripped down in the Koran, to being a story of Lot trying to protect God’s angels from the wicked, not Abraham bargaining with God), to Moses questioning God’s judgement that it should be Moses that leads his people out of Egypt to Jesus questioning God’s abandonment of him.

    There is no story in the Koran where any of the characters EVER
    question their Allah. It is Allah’s will, and that is that. It is a
    totalitarian mindset versus a questioning mindset which separates our
    cultures and there is no way you can reform Islam to allow its adherents
    to question. The Judeo-Christian beliefs allowed for them to question
    their traditions, their tenets, and that is how they evolved from sometimes
    brutal beginnings. Islam has never evolved because their ideology does
    not have a mechanism to evolve. They will forever be stuck in their barbaric 7th century Medieval mindset.

  • Dan Knight

    Just a quick note: Do not confuse ‘reason’ for ‘Reason’ or vice versa. We can all reason: And Muslims reason all the time whether or not they practice violent Jihad. ‘Reason’ with a capital ‘R’ is simply another religion, or ‘fantasy-ideology.’

    Most of us confuse the success of natural (God-given) reason plus the scientific method (invented in the west by Christians and Jews) for ‘Reason.’ Yet, all the great, and bloody, mistakes made by the West were made by men who followed ‘Reason’ to some ‘logical’ (illogical) conclusions.

    Once one realizes this, one will see that what we arbitrarily call ‘religions’ exclude religions such as ‘Atheism’ (Secular Animism) or ‘Reason’ or ‘Socialism’ etc. – solely on the basis of a the name of one’s god(s) and the titles given to the priesthood.

    • Joycey

      All Catholic priests have to have degrees in Philosophy and Theology. Fir anyone to suggest that a person with a philosophy degree is unable to reason is being unreasonable.

      • Dan Knight

        Hi Joycey, I certainly agree with you. And … At no point in this post am I suggesting anyone with the faculty to reason cannot reason.

        The point of my post is that there is no natural solution to philosophical problems ending in ‘Reason’ – capital R with quotation marks. The concept of ‘Reason’ – capital R with quotation marks – is a fantasy-ideology full of holes.

        As for Catholic Priests … I know quite a few of those and I agree: They all reason quite well thank you. And they all also prove the point: Some use reason to understand and solve problems, and others use reason to ignore errors and perpetuate problems – just like us. And it would be unreasonable to be too sure of either their ability or lack thereof.

        One last point re; Catholic Priests, I have found them all to be sincere, honest, decent, and generally self-less individuals trying to spread the Word of Jesus and help the World, but … they can be wrong occasionally just like the rest of us.

        • UncleVladdi

          The Bibles posit God gave us free will BY separating us from Him (the tree, the expulsion).

          So we’re left to discover basic cause-and-effect (‘scientific’) principles without having it forced on us.

          We get to Reason things out, all on our own. And, according to Isaiah, that’s what God most WANTS us to do!

          This means that we’re not pre-perfected robots, like the angels allegedly are.

          The ability to learn from mistakes, to solve problems, also leaves us able to (choose to) NOT learn from those same mistakes, and to refuse to solve problems (both of which choices define “Sin.”)

          ;-)

          • Dan Knight

            Well put. It’s a difficult concept for people to wrap their heads around: Sort of like trying to see the back of one’s own head.

          • UncleVladdi

            Yep. Lying criminal idolaters like to pretend dynamic verbs are static nouns (and ‘verse-vicea’) – for instance, like the ongoing circumstantial and situational process of reasoning is pretended by them to be some sort of standalone entity, once ‘abstracted’ or removed from that same circumstantial, situational context – which they then call ‘Reason.’

            As if ‘it’ could exist without any people actually ‘reasoning!’
            ;-)

          • Dan Knight

            Yes, that’s a very good way to put it.

          • UncleVladdi

            There’s a good Christian book by Rodney Stark called The Triumph of Reason which posits that the only reason we Christians are so successful in improving this world with technology (as opposed to destructive muslims, for instance) is due to Christian teachings.

            I’ve summed up that theory a bit, here:

            http://unclevladdi.wordpress.com/2014/11/12/islam-is-political-correctness/

            Njoi!

            ;-)

          • Dan Knight

            lol

    • UncleVladdi

      Funny how Genesis claims we ARE able to distinguish evil (attacking innocents first) from good (self-restraint) and Isaiah says God only wants us to Reason with Him, while muslims claim he is both unknown and unknowable, and liberals like to pretend life is too complex for any of us to ever really understand cause and effect, so there’s no such thing as free will, choice, self-reliant responsibility, or even evil crimes nor evil criminals, because we’re all really only helpless before random predetermined, predestined forces outside our control, so we’re really all only victims of society, products of our environments, and slaves of allah.

      Since their god never gave us free will, it also never separated itself from its creation, so they (both muslims and liberals) are really only atheists – when one’s version of a god is only generally only “Everything!” it’s also specifically only “Nothing!” (Existentialism IS Nihilism)!

      • Dan Knight

        Yes, you’re right.

  • Matthew Meadow

    Christ said: ‘I am the way the truth and the life, no-one comes to the father except through me.’. And He knew what He was taking about, since He is God manifested in the flesh. Who lives on in the lives of those who live through His Spirit, the ‘Spirit of Truth’.

    John 14:25 “These things I have spoken to you while being present with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

    It sounds arrogant, but if you know Christ through The Spirit, the Truth is in and with you. He is the author and finisher of our faith.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=hebrews+12%3A2&version=NIV

  • patechinois

    Thanks for yet another example in the Bible which demonstrates the ability to question.