A Carter Intervention in Venezuela

jimmy_carter_2Last week Jimmy Carter fired off letters to Venezuela’s fraudulent President Nicolas Maduro and to Venezuela’s defrauded Presidential candidate Enrique Capriles expressing “grave concern” regarding the political turmoil and bloodshed convulsing their nation. From his pulpit at Emory University’s Carter Center, the former U.S. president calls for “dialogue” among the embattled Venezuelan parties and offers to visit the troubled nation — but not as a formal “mediator.”

The news of Carter’s proposed Venezuela visit was only hours old when alarmed Venezuelan anti-socialists sent out an SOS: “Please, desist from your trip,” reads an open letter from Venezuelan blogger/journalist Daniel Duquenal. “You have absolutely no credibility in Venezuela…You have cursed us enough as it is. I can assure you that half of the country has no respect nor credibility for you and the other half (the Castroites) thinks you are a mere fool that they can use and discard as needed.”

Venezuelan continues as a veritable battleground between hundreds of thousands of protestors and thousands of Cuban-trained government police and national guardsmen. Fifteen protestors have been shot dead, hundreds arrested and thousands injured. “I feel as if this were a war zone,” said one resident of the far-western city of San Cristobal, long known for it’s anti-Chavista activism.

Desperate to cow that area’s rebellious residents Maduro even sent some of his regime’s Russian-built Sukhoi warplanes to buzz (but not yet bomb) the area. “It doesn’t matter if it takes a month, two months, three months. We have to get rid of this government,” said one desperate protestor.

This is a very unequal battle. The protestors have overwhelming numbers on their side, but the Cuba-puppet regime has the guns, the planes, the tanks, the truncheons and the tear gas. Better still (for the Venezuelan regime) the hands-on tutelage of their repressive apparatus comes courtesy of a regime (Castro’s) that jailed political prisoners at a higher rate than Stalin’s during the Great Terror, and murdered more Cubans in his first three years in power than Hitler‘s murdered Germans during his first six. No “security specialists” in the Western Hemisphere can boast anything close to these credentials on their CV.

So like anyone else with stellar credentials Castro’s military and police advisors demand top price for their services. Last year Venezuelan subsidies to Cuba totaled $10 billion. That’s more than double what the Soviets used to send. No, Castro’s KGB-trained murderers and torturers will not work for peanuts.

Alas, Castro’s “security” assistance to Maduro’s regime has lately been revealed as more than strictly “advisory.” Venezuelan social media (the only type still functioning freely in this Cuban satrapy) is leaking out some tragi-comedies: “You’re not Venezuelan!” yelled a demonstrator to a heavily armed national Guardsman. “Then sing the Venezuelan national anthem!” and of course the man in the Venezuelan Guardsman’s uniform could not.

Jimmy Carter has a long and illustrious history of “mediation” in disputed Venezuelan elections, dating back to 1998. In every case his mediation served to legitimize the electoral fraud of Venezuela’s Castroites and socialists. In fact the international legitimacy of Maduro’s fraudulent presidency owes much to Carter himself.

“The voting part” of it was “free and fair,” declared Jimmy Carter after Maduro “won” the elections of April, 2013 shortly after Hugo’ Chavez death. “Venezuela probably has the most excellent voting system that I have ever known,” he concluded.  Maybe if Jimmy Carter spent less time watching Wayne’s World and more time listening to the Venezuelan opposition he’d know that election was blatantly stolen by Maduro.

Jimmy Carter’s relationship with Venezuela’s current colonial overlords may explain his solicitude for the welfare of the Maduro regime. To wit:

“We greeted each other as old friends,” gushed Jimmy Carter regarding his most recent meeting with Fidel Castro in April 2011.

“In 2002, we received him warmly,” reciprocated Fidel. “Now, I reiterated to him our respect and esteem.”

“Jimmy Carter was the best of all U.S. Presidents,” gushed Fidel’s brother Raul while seeing his American guest off personally and jovially after those ultra-amiable meetings.

But Jimmy Carter’s affection for the Castros amounts to more than smiles, handshakes and love notes. On his most recent Cuban visit he appeared on Cuban TV to denounce the U.S. justice system and plead for the release of Cuban terrorist/spies (The Cuban Five) — a conviction by U.S. Federal juries upheld all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, by the way. The charges against Castro’s spies included

•Gathering intelligence against the Boca Chica Air Naval Station in Key West, the McDill Air Force Base in Tampa and the headquarters of the U.S. Southern Command in Homestead, Fla.

•Compiling the names, home addresses and medical files of the U.S. Southern Command’s top officers, along with those of hundreds of officers stationed at Boca Chica.

•Infiltrating the headquarters of the U.S. Southern Command.

•Sending letter bombs to Cuban-Americans.

•Spying on McDill Air Force Base, the U.S. armed forces’ worldwide headquarters for fighting “low-intensity” conflicts.

•Locating entry points into Florida for smuggling explosives.

“I believe that there is no reason to keep the Cuban Five imprisoned,” declared Jimmy Carter while being interviewed by a Communist apparatchik on Cuban TV. “I had the opportunity to meet the families of the five Cuban patriots [italics mine], with their wives and with their mothers…..I’m well aware of the shortcomings of the U.S. judicial system [but apparently not the Cuban] but hope that President Obama will grant their pardon. He knows my opinion on this matter, that the trial of the Cuban Five was very dubious, that many norms were violated.”

The man hailed as the “Elder Statesman” of America’s majority political party insulted the judicial system of the nation that elected him President while hosted by a regime that imported its judicial system—lock, stock and barrel—from the heirs of Joe Stalin.

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  • Steeloak

    I guess ‘ole Jimmah is working hard to take back the title of worst president in Modern American history from Obama. Don’t think he can do it though, Obama is close to causing another World War, while the best Jimmah could manage was to overthrow a couple of friendly dictators and create a hostage crisis.

    • jmulcahy

      Jimmy won’t go down without a fight.

  • JacksonPearson

    The old POS should just stay there.

    • A Z

      Jimmy Carter is what the estimable John Kerry desires to be.

      The title, the power to move pieces around on a chessboard and a retirement being important and pontificating (while safe form the consequences).

      Think of a Roman senator safe in his walled estate while the Roman world falls apart.

  • Softly Bob

    They say that as you get older, you become more Conservative as the delusion of youth disappears and the realities of life show you what the World is really like.
    But some people are too far gone, I guess. There’s a strange breed of Leftist who will never change and Carter is one of them.
    There’s no fool like an old fool.

  • Reco2

    Fradulent?

    Coming from a backer of Franco and Pinochet…Fraud,Fraud,Fraud every time fascists lose an election.

    You support fascists who want to overthrow democracy….what a shocking surprise.

    • DLeeC

      While you’re here, educate yourself. Learn from those who have lived it and who have family still living it like Fontova. Castro has fair elections too right? It’s great when you only have one candidate and one party right? Chavez was a tyrant who bullied all political opponents. He’s surely arguing with the Devil on who should rule hell. Ted Kennedy though is giving him a challenge.

      Who are those 170 election observers and can you send them here to investigate the people who voted multiple times and laughed about it. How about the New Black Panthers and ACORN? The 165 people registered at one address and who voted with absentee ballots? Payoffs and intimidation by Harry Reid. And the use of government funds by Democrat Governors who funded cronies by giving them contracts thereby forcing them to then fund Democrat campaigns and worst of all, ordering their employees that if they didn’t vote for Democrats, they would lose their job.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Fradulent? You bet.

      Coming from a backer of marx, lenin, stalin, mao and KGB Putin…Fraud,Fraud,Fraud every time fascists lose an election.

      Maduro “won” the “free and fair election”, which was moderated by over
      170 socialist election observers, and the left,as usual, resorted to terrorist
      violence.

      You support socialist fascists who want to overthrow democracy….what a shocking surprise

      • Reco2

        “Socialist”-International observers from the US, US and other countries.

        The opposition are the fascists you fool…..also, those executed by Castro got what they deserved. Murderous thugs who supported Batista.

        • American Patriot

          Shut up, you stupid fascist. The Communists are the real fascists and you are their useful idiots. Capriles is the real winner of the presidential election held in Venezuela last April. You are upset because there is a democratic uprising in Venezuela against your beloved role models, the Castro brothers and their puppet, a**hole Maduro. Also, most opponents of the Castro dictatorship either had no connection to Batista, opposed Batista or were born after the said autocrat was toppled. The Castro dictatorship’s puppet regime in Caracas is illegitimate and will be toppled soon, just like your beloved Iron Curtain was toppled a quarter-century ago by popular protests. Learn from facts, you lowlife.

          • Reco2

            Those in Miami are lowlife failures who were kicked out of their country for supporting fascist terrorism. Capriles is a sore loser and a failure.

          • American Patriot

            Opponents of totalitarianism are freedom fighters, you a**hole. Capriles won the presidential election in Venezuela fair and square, you moron. Cuban dissidents are democracy and human rights advocates, you Communist loon. Communism and Fascism are criminal ideologies. Chilean Communists who were exiles in the Soviet Union were militant criminals who were upset that their country rejected Communism. Reco, you arr a modern-day Joseph Stalin. You support and defend Communist totalitarianism because you hate democracy. Fact-check.

          • Reco2

            No he lost, just ask the international observers. A two time loser. HA HA!

            Castro will die undefeated! And thats how it should be!

          • truebearing

            No, Castro will die. And that’s how it should have been long ago.

            I noticed you are insane. Have you considered getting help? I hear they are doing out-patient lobotomies for real reasonable rates these days.

            Hint: don’t have it done in Cuba. They use egg beaters. It’s all they can afford in Cuba. I’m sure you heard that socialism so decimated Cuba that the Castros are now allowing some capitalism “to save the revolution.”

            “WHAT IS notable about the ideology of the Cuban and Chinese revolutions, as well as of Stalin, is that they turn the basic tenets of Marxism on their head. For Marxism, socialism can only succeed as a movement of the international working class. There can be no socialism in one country.

            Stalin pioneered the slogan “socialism in one country,” and the foundation of Che, Castro and Mao’s politics was first and foremost nationalism and national development. For Marxism, socialism can only be achieved through the self-emancipation of the working class and the oppressed.”
            socialistworker.org/2013/12/06/ruling-in-the-name-of-socialism

            So much for calling people fascists. Even Socialists (sane ones) think the countries you defend are/were Fascist.

          • Reco2

            If you think that is capitalism then how would you describe the Nazis privatization state owned industries in a mixed economy?

            Castro will die in his bed.

          • American Patriot

            Recommunist lunatic, Nazis were anti-Capitalists and supported socialized health care and other command economic tactics. They also made alliances with radical Islamists like Hajj Amin Al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. You need to fact-check, you Marxist lowlife.

          • Reco2

            Many capitalists were members of the National socialist party. Including, Hugo Boss, Krupp and the CEO of allianz Kurt Schmidt.

          • American Patriot

            Again, that would be an oxymoron. I know for starters that Western left-wing intellectuals like WEB DuBois and George Bernard Shaw also praised the Third Reich at some point during its rule in Germany. The French Communists initially welcomed the Nazi occupation of France in 1940, believing that the bourgeois would be under controlled. Watch Glenn Beck’s Revolutionary Holocaust documentary to learn more on the truth. By the way, it is also an ironic twist that big business actually helped fund Lenin’s Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. The Castro dictatorship in Cuba has received praise from many in the big business media. So you see, big business capitalists have also praised Communist dictatorships, you loon. You need to fact-check.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            We know that your nazis, AKA national Socialists, were SOCIALISTS.

            You try to hide that fact.

          • Reco2

            That is like saying that Khomeini of IRan was a Reaganite because he lead the Islamic REPUBLICAN party. Your argument fails big time.

            Are you really claiming that the CEO of Allianz and the founder of Hugo Boss were socialists!

            HAHA…dumbass.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            How can Castro die undefeated without rigged elections???

            Remember neo-commie, a Castro has been Presidente since 1959.

            No non-Castro can ever win with rigged, corrupt socialist elections.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Castro, in power since 1959, like all brutal dictators who manage to kill off the opposition, die “undefeated”.

          • His Excellency

            Why do you defend Castro so much if you claim to be a democrat?

          • His Excellency

            Those in Miami are true democrats, unlike you. You are a pendejo and a Communist revisionist. Shame on you. And Capriles is the rightful president of Venezuela.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          What do you think the Castro dictatorship is?

          FASCIST since 1959.

          And who has been the Presidente since 1959? A Castro.

          From Fidel to Raul.

          No non-Castro has ever been Presidente.

    • Notalibfool

      Ahh, leftist doublespeak. :)

      Free and fair election = rigged election.
      Democracy = Socialist dictatorship.
      Fascists = those who oppose socialism, not those who actually support Fascism.
      Terrorist violence = people resisting socialist tyranny.

      Democratically elected leader = dictator.
      Peace = the left dominates, not an absence of violence.

    • Rob Hobart

      The usual drivel.

    • American Patriot

      Shut up, Recommunist lowlife. You are nothing more than a Stalinist/Maoist pig who supports Communist totalitarianism. By the way, the illegitimate Maduro dictatorship in Venezuela is the real fascist regime, which is very similar to your Communist role models. You are simply a totalitarian lowlife.

    • His Excellency

      You defend the Communist coup attempts against former President Carlos Andrez Perez.

      • Reco2

        The man who was impeached for corruption by a conservative president?

        • His Excellency

          He was impeached by a Chavista sympathizer, Rafael Caldera, who would eventually be elected president of Venezuela (the last pre-Chavez leader), pardoned Chavez (even though he really shouldn’t had), and paved the way for the strongman’s eventual election in 1998. Chavez should had been disqualified for running for the presidency in Venezuela for his role in an undemocratic coup attempt.

  • The March Hare

    I just don’t understand what Carter thinks is so great about socialism and the horrific messes it has created in these places. Why does he want this for our country? I don’t get it. Why does he think it is good? I can understand the dreams of a utopian world, but when making the omelet ends up breaking almost every egg, what is the attraction?

    • Notalibfool

      Carter is just like any other leftist, including Obama. He is spoiled and rich, and has never once in his life had to perform any real work. He overestimates his own intellect, and assumes that he knows what’s best for everyone else. Worst of all he believes that he is too important to have to live by the standards he wishes to impose upon the rest of us.

      • cep32101

        I couldn’t have said it better. Most of these socialists would never see themselves on the end of a shovel. They would consider themselves the elite, and would have you and I do the hard work for them.

  • Ajohn

    Still trying to relevant, and just digging a deeper hole. He could lift his “worst President” rating by one tier, just by going away.

  • DLeeC

    Venezuelan blogger/journalist Daniel Duquenal. “You have absolutely no credibility in Venezuela…You (Carter) have cursed us enough as it is. I can assure you that half of the country has no respect nor credibility for you and the other half (the Castroites) thinks you are a mere fool that they can use and discard as needed.”
    Best comment against Carter who legitimizes all Socialist/Communist elections by being an “international observer.” He should “observe” our own elections since Obama and the Democrats do the same thing Chavez did and that’s all the handouts, voter intimidation, attacks on political opponents including banning them, and the takeover of any media outlet that dares to be against him.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Dhimmi Carter – WORST US PRESIDENT E-V-E-R.

      • iluvisrael

        but lil barry is giving the old geezer a run for is money

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Let us not forget who Dhimmi Carter hangs with since being rejected by the American people.

  • copakeman

    I wonder what the shar of iran’s (pre 1980) opinion of carter is ?

    • Notalibfool

      Wonder what the people of Iran think of him…..

  • Peter

    Carter has a very questionable reputation in Latin America and through his endorsements of the Chavez and Maduro regimes caused significant damage long term.

  • wileyvet

    The man is clearly senile and delusional. Thirty three years ago he left office, but won’t leave the scene. He obviously believes his presidency was the high water mark of American statesmanship and refuses to recognize his abject failure as Chief Executive, so has continued for 3 decades to finish what he never completed due to the crushing defeat at the hands of Ronald Reagan. What is it about old Democrat Presidents that they don’t just fade away?

    • truebearing

      The Left’s addiction to power.

  • Fritz Kohlhaas

    Go away Carter! Stay away! You have no clue of you are doing! Don’t meddle!
    You are finished, kaput!

  • Matthew

    Po Jamma….spent more time sleeping on the couch in the oval Office than surrounding himself with capable staff members to iron out his national disgrace. M

  • American Patriot

    Jimmy “Lester Maddox is the ‘essence’ of the Democratic Party” Carter is at it again. He is trying to legitimize an illegitimate puppet dictatorship in Venezuela. That Communist dictatorship is controlled by its imperialist masters in Communist Cuba, the Castro brothers. We must support the Venezuelan freedom fighters free their country from Communist tyranny and its fanatical supporters like the Marxist lowlife Reco2. VIVA VENEZUELA LIBRE!

  • American Patriot

    Red Shirt Reco2 supports Communist aggression and Islamist terrorism. He supported (and continues to support) violent left-wing interventions/ overthrow of governments in Spain during the Spanish Civil War (1936-1939), the Soviet takeover of Eastern Europe (1945-1989), the coup in Czechoslovakia (1948), the Communist takeover of China (1949-present), the invasion and takeover of Tibet (1950) and the suppression of a popular uprising there (1959); the takeover of what is now North Korea (beginning in the mid-1940s) and the invasion of South Korea (1950-1953); the establishment of Communist North Vietnam and later all of Vietnam (1946/1975-present), the Communization of Iran (1940s-1953), Guatemala (around 1947-1954) and Chile (1970-1973); Egypt (1952); Iraq (1958); Cuba (beginning in 1959); the Chinese Communist invasion of India (1962); Syria (1963 and 1966); South Yemen (1967-1990); Peru (1968-1975); Libya (1969); Ethiopia (1974); Angola (1975); Panama (1960s/1970s-1989); Afghanistan (1978/1979); Grenada (1979); Nicaragua (1979-1990); Suriname (1980); Kuwait (1990-1991); Balkans War (throughout the 1990s); Venezuela (beginning in 1998) Russian invasion of Georgia (2008) and other atrocities. By the way, while the Argentine military junta that took over that country in 1976 was supposedly “anti-Communist”, it had a very amicable relationship with Reco’s beloved Castro dictatorship in Communist Cuba. The link is here: http://cubanexilequarter.blogspot.com/2013/05/unusual-alliance-cuban-argentine.html. Reco is an apologist for Communist totalitarianism and hides that fact by falsely accusing his opponents as “fascists”, despite the fact that fascists were left-wing. Reco is simply allergic to facts.

    • Reco2

      Spain, Chile Guatemala Iran and Nicaragua Ah, they were democracies overthrown by the Right. Go put on your Blackshirt you brainless buffoon!

      The fact they think the Tsars, French colonialists, Chang Kai Cheks Nationalists, South Vietnamese were all “democrats”…what a joke.

      Fascists were anti communists you buffoon.

      Humberto fontova’s heroes(who he has praised in his articles)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBtGQceOEY
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW7Y_Pf0WhY

      Humberto fontova’s family dreamed of a fascist cuba…that is why they hate this hero: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wfoTccsAeg

      • American Patriot

        Shut up, you Communist/Fascist loon. You are wrong on so many levels. Regarding China and Taiwan, if the Chiang Kai-Shek nationalists were totalitarians, then why is Taiwan now a free and democratic country? Yes, Chiang Kai-Shek was authoritarian, but Taiwan is a democratic country today, unlike its main threat, your beloved Communist China (which is still a one-party totalitarian dictatorship). Why are people leaving Communist North Korea, Communist Cuba and their like-minded allies for the Western democracies and their allies? People like Ronald Reagan and Vaclav Havel are the real heroes. They helped defeat Communist totalitarianism in different parts of the world and brought freedom and democracy to those countries. Communists like you hate freedom fighters like Reagan and Havel because they ruined your dream of a world dominated by Communist totalitarianism. Fact-check.

        • Reco2

          Reagan was a supporter of fascism. See Chile & Guatemala and Afghanistan

          if the Chiang Kai-Shek nationalists were totalitarians- They slaughtered the natives of Taiwan and the country only became a democracy when he died.

          • truebearing

            Mao murdered 70,000,000 of his own people, moron.

          • Reco2

            How come the population increased from 550 million to 900+ million then you moron.

          • American Patriot

            How come as much as 40 million people died from your beloved “Great Leap Forward” program? By the way, most of the population growth occurred after Mao’s death, you loon. I think I read once that Mao never supported birth control. In any case, you are defending who is arguably the greatest mass murderer in history: http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2073.

          • Reco2

            40 million? Mobo Goa, Dongpin Han etc. and other Chinese scholars who lived during the period said that this figure is a blatant lie. Great Leap Forward took place during a famine- China always had famines you ignorant bufoon!

            Here is the demographics of china:

            1953
            582,603,417

            1964
            694,581,759

            19.2%

            1982
            1,008,175,288

            45.1%

            1990
            1,133,682,501

            12.4%

            2000
            1,265,830,000

            11.7%

            2010
            1,339,724,852

            5.8%

            So your last statement is a blatant lie.

          • American Patriot

            That is BS. You are obviously getting information from Communist Party websites. The so-called “Great Leap Forward” caused a famine. It was a man-made famine. As much as 40 million people died from the GLF policies. Even Mao’s successors acknowledged the failures of the GLF, which was why they decided to switch to a more neoliberal-oriented economy. By the way, China’s population didn’t reach 1 billion until the 1990s, around two decades after Mao’s death. Read the DiscovertheNetworks profile on Mao to learn the truth about your beloved “role-model”. Also read Jung Chang’s book Mao: The Unknown Story to learn more on the truth.

          • Reco2

            I am getting my info from books written by the Chinese people such as Mobo Goa’s “the battle for China’s past” and Dongping Han “the unknown cultural revolution”.

            It reached a billion in the 1980s….only around five years after Mao’s death. The figure of forty million comes from a failed dutch historian who thinks he knows more about china than actual Chinese people.

            The GLF is known as the period of Three Years of Natural Disasters or Three Years of Difficult Period under Mao. Hardly an endorsement.

          • American Patriot

            The 40 million figure came from many intellectual sources, most notably, The Black Book of Communism (which was written by French scholars and translated into English by Harvard University Press) and Mao: The Unknown Story (which was written by Jung Chang, who is from China and who experienced the Communist regime first-hand). Most of your information comes from Communist Party-controlled sources. As for the so-called “Cultural Revolution”, it was a complete disaster. Did you know that Confucius’ teachings were banned in Mao’s China? And you are defending a monstrous regime that killed more people than any other in modern history. Don’t you have any shame? Learn from facts.

          • Reco2

            Black book of communism is national socialist propaganda….indeed, Maurice Papon used it in his defence!

            The French conservatives supported Hitler!

          • Guest

            In the book, they describe National Socialism as rightwing. And rightly so, supported by capitalists and conservatives.

            Glen Beck? HAHHAHAAH!

            Try the Jewish virtual library or the US holocaust museum to find out the true horror of the capitalist Nazis!

          • His Excellency

            Wrong. The French Communists supported the invasion of 1940 as standing up to “bourgeois” elements, fool.

          • Reco2

            Moron, was Petain a communist? No, he was a a right wing military officer and a anti communist. Much like your other hero, Augusto Pinochet.

          • His Excellency

            How come you idolize the Castro brothers if they are tyrannical and anti-democratic, pendejo?

          • Reco2

            Marhsall Pertain was a communist? He was a member of the Bourgeoise you moron, an ardent conservative who hated the French revolution.

          • His Excellency

            I’m not talking about Marshall Pertain, mamalón. I’m talking about all of your revisionist propaganda. Now that you mentioned the French Revolution, let’s talk about Maxwell Robespierre and the crimes of the Jacobin that followed a popular revolution. Keep in mind that most Americans supported the revolution as following America’s example, but disapproved of the Jacobins’ tyranny in France in the mid-1790s. Why do you support Robespierre’s “Rein of Terror”, pendejo? Anyway, you need to watch Revolutionary Holocaust again to see who actually “found reason to celebrate” the occupation of France in 1940. You also need to read Armando Valladares’ book, Against All Hope, to understand the harsh realities of your beloved Castro dictatorship in Cuba, cabrón.

          • Reco2

            Marshall Petain was the leader of Vichy France, they supported the Nazis and were extremely conservative. He was a great admirer of Franco, fool!

          • Reco2

            Glen Beck? HAHHAHAAH!

            Try the Jewish virtual library or the US holocaust museum to find out the true horror of the capitalist Nazis!

            IG Farben even had factories at Nazi death camps.

          • His Excellency

            Have you ever read Jung Chang’s Mao: The Unknown Story book? It is a book that documents the truth about what happened in China during the years of one of your totalitarian heroes, Mao Zedong. You also ignore the atrocities of the so-called Cultural Revolution and the invasion and military occupation of Tibet.

          • Reco2

            Have you ever read Mobo Goa’s book entitled the “battle for China’s past” Written by a chinese peasant who lived in the era.

          • His Excellency

            No, but you clearly need to read Jung Chang’s book on Mao. You defend tyrants if they share your Communist ideology.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            You are confusing Carter with Reagan.

          • American Patriot

            Reagan never supported fascism, you a**hole. You hate Reagan because he helped free many countries that were under control from your beloved Communist dictators. Reagan wouldn’t had had to intervene and helped the Mujahdeen in Afghanistan had the Soviet Union not installed a Communist puppet dictatorship in Afghanistan nor subsequently invaded that country. Fact-check.

          • His Excellency

            Wrong, pendejo. That was Imperial Japan who conquered Taiwan and committed atrocities against the inhabitants there before and during World War II. How is Chiang Kai-Shek worse than Mao Zedong. The latter slaughtered far more lives than the former.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Recommie2

        Here is a bit of history that you might not be familar with.

        The Soviet SOCIALIST and national SOCIALIST non-aggression pact of 1939.

        Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact – AKA the Socialist Stalin and Socialist SHlTler pact.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

        Was your Stalin anti-fascist from the start – or only anti-fascist after Socialist SHlTler broke the pact????

        • Reco2

          You idiot, the party that ruled the soviet Union was called the Bolshevik party. Where is the word socialist?

          The Nazis invaded the USSR you moronic dunce….that is why German capitalists supported Hitler.

          • American Patriot

            First of all, the Bolsheviks were Communists, you dunce. The official name of the Soviet Union was the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Second, the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union two years after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, you loon. The capitalists condemned the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, while the Communists attacked any Western effort to stop Hitler as “capitalist warmongering”. Also, watch the Soviet Story documentary to learn about how the Soviets helped the Third Reich instigate the Holocaust, dummy. Fact-check.

          • Reco2

            The capitalists did not condemn the pact….do you even know what a capitalist is?

            A major capitalist is someone who owns a massive amount of capital. The richest man in Germany was a member of the National Socialist party and was condemned at Nuremberg…you need to read up on your history.

          • American Patriot

            Just like the richest people in Cuba today are the Castro family and members of their dictatorship. And the British and French responded to the Nazi invasion of Poland by declaring war on Germany. The Soviets didn’t formally declare war on Nazi Germany until 1941. Get your facts straight.

      • Aaron

        Fascism is only a slightly more capitalistic form of communism. But centralized state control using propaganda and force to cow the public was and is still the Leftist way.

        • Reco2

          Incorrect, National Socialism, National/Republican Fascism and National Falageism were part of the ultra right that believed that private ownership and free enterprise(they hated the term capitalism(marxist) was the best system because it put better individuals in higher positions in society.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monowitz_concentration_camp

          • American Patriot

            Recommunist, here is the real explanation of fascism, which was left-wing: http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=519

          • Reco2

            American Pinochetista

            fascism
            Line breaks:
            fas|cism
            Pronunciation: /ˈfaʃɪz(ə)m
            noun
            [mass noun] 1An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

            You have no idea what you are talking about. Anyway, how do you explain Humberto Fontova’s support for Pinochet, Franco and Horthy….2/3 were Hitler allies!

          • American Patriot

            Australian (I assume you’re from Australia) Castrista, you obviously didn’t read the DiscovertheNetworks page on fascism. Once again, how can an omnipotent government have an unregulated economy? That is an oxymoron. The definition you gave was pulled out of the Communist Party dictionary. By the way, Angel Castro, the father of the Castro brothers, was a Spanish colonial military personnel who fought under the command of your beloved Gen. Valeriano Weyler before and during the Spanish American War. Isn’t it ironic that Cuba is ruled by a Communist dictatorship whose rulers are the kids of a colonial authority figure who tried to save the Spanish empire? Anyway, why did your beloved Maurice Bishop overthrew the democratically-elected government of Eric Gairy in Grenada in 1979? Why did the Soviet Union invade Afghanistan after installing a puppet regime there. And why are the Cuban Communist secret police trained by the East German STASI police, which consisted of many former Nazi officers? Why do you support Communist totalitarianism?

          • 500_lb_Gorrila

            Like I said, “right-wing fascism” is an invention of the left that has been parroted by leftist in academia in order to slander the right. Another example of how delusional leftists are is it’s own “anarchist” movement, which supports socialism and large central government, an oxymoron to be sure.

          • 500_lb_Gorrila

            Nazi’s were socialists.

          • Reco2

            They were economic capitalists. The founder of the disign giant Hugo Boss was a member of the party for two decades. Certainly rightwing.

          • 500_lb_Gorrila

            Capitalists are the polar opposite of fascists. You truly are clueless.

          • Reco2

            Fool, many capitalists were members of fascist parties. You are ignorant.

          • 500_lb_Gorrila

            You leftists always resort to name-calling when you can’t compose a coherent response. Pathetic.

          • His Excellency

            Aaron is right, Reco. Fascism was still socialism. Quit denying that fact.

      • His Excellency

        You know, Reco, American Patriot is right. You Stalinists and Maoists have a long history of supporting atrocities in countries around the world, as well as collaborating with other authoritarian and totalitarian ideologies and later denying the fact that those alliances existed. How are the Castro brothers, Mao and Walter Ultbritcht heroes to you and Chang Kai-Shek, Winston Churchill, Carlos Andres Perez and Henrique Capriles are not? You are not a social democrat. You are a Communist and a revisionist. Shame on you, pendejo.

        • Reco2

          I see, so you have lost on the other threads so you start a new one. Rather pathetic.

          • His Excellency

            No, that would be you, pendejo. I seek to correct you lies and propaganda, mamalón.

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  • Reco2

    George Bernard Shaw? The playright who Hitler had no time for……oh dear, Hitler actually threw out leftists and replaced them with conservatives- France is one example.

    • His Excellency

      Wrong. He threw out conservatives and replaced them with leftists in many places, pendejo. WEB Dubois had praised the economic systems of both Hitler and Stalin. George Bernard Shaw admired both regimes.

      • Reco2

        Where? Or are you lying again?

        • His Excellency

          No. Lying is your speciality, pendejo. You think that Communist regimes like the Castro brothers in Cuba and the former East German dictatorship are democratic when they are not.

          • Reco2

            You still haven’t given specific examples, where did he replace a conservative with a leftist? Moron.

          • Reco2

            You are certainly a liar, Hitler replaced leftists with conservatives in Spain, France etc.

          • His Excellency

            Not in France, pendejo. Hitler was a leftist and you know it. Hence the term “National-Socialism”.

          • Reco2

            He replaced a socialist government with a rightwing military officer, Hitler was a rightwinger-hence his support for capitalism and his anti communism.

            I do find it amusing that morons such as yourself think that Hitler was somehow a leftist, actual German capitalists believed he was a rightwinger and a capitalist. Funny that.

          • His Excellency

            More bulls**t, pendejo. France was an opponent of the USSR during the interwar years and the beginning of World War II, just like Britain. In fact, Hitler invaded France when the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was in full force. He was an anti-capitalist socialist. Funny how you forget that the invasion of France took place during the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.

          • Reco2

            Hitler was a capitalist, German capitalists supported him. Hitler also replaced a socialist with Petain….Petain was an anti communist conservative!

          • His Excellency

            Sure, moron. The truth is that Hitler was a socialists and some German socialists supported him. Most notably, the Berlin transit strike of 1932. Key denying facts, mamalón.

          • Reco2

            You are denying facts, moron. Hitler was an ardent capitalist, no socialists supported him….capitalists did…most notably in the enabling act in 1933, milltary build up and of course the holocaust where capitalists like Bruno Tesch supplied Zykon B.

          • His Excellency

            Keep denying facts, moron. National Socialism is still socialism. Hitler was an ardent socialist. You ignore the fact that there was collaboration between Nazis and Communists in events like the Berlin transit strike of 1932 and the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact that led directly to World War II.

          • Reco2

            No, National socialism was a rightwing and capitalist ideology, buffoon!

            HItler was also an anti communist, attacking the USSR in a conservative inspired crusade…..I note that you tottaly ignored the way the CAPITALISTS CONTRIBUTED to the holocaust…..odd that. You are an utter moron.

          • His Excellency

            Right. So you ignore Hitler’s socialism and the USSR’s role in helping it divide Europe into two spheres of influence starting with Poland, and attacking France and Britain in a leftist-inspired crusade. I note that you totally ignored the way the Communists helped in instigating the Holocaust as documented in the Soviet Story documentary (www.sovietstory.com)… odd that.

          • Reco2

            Hitler’s socialism? Denied by Hitler’s own capitalists, Hitler invaded the USSR in order to build a conservative Europe……the Soviet Story was not backed by a single Jewish group because they saw it for what it was, a dishonest attempt for Rightist balkans to deny their crimes.

          • His Excellency

            Hitler’s capitalism? Denied by Hitler’s own socialists, Hitler invaded France and attacked Britain before invading the USSR. He invaded the West in order to build his own version of a leftist, socialist Europe. The Soviet Story won recognition from many human rights groups and other organizations. The only ones who did not back the film were organizations loyal to your modern-day hero, Vladimir Putin and other Russian neo-Communists and ultra nationalists because they can’t stand the truth. Instead, they post revisionist propaganda about the events leading to WWII as part of a dishonest attempt for Leftist revisionists to deny their crimes.

          • Reco2

            “Hitler’s socialists”? Like Mr Krupp that employed 400 000 people and had many large factories….I guess you think he was a socialist too, and not an arch capitalists like the Germans believe he was.

            I note that you danced away from the issue of the capitalists contributing the holocaust,,,zykon B for example…..very interesting.

            Hitler’s conservative dream failed, it was a conservative dream because replaced socialists with ardent conservatives like Tiso, Petain, Pavelic and of course Franco who was supported by Reagan.

            Soviet Story was condemned by Jewish groups, who saw it as an attempt for the Right to distract others from their crimes………how despicable!

          • His Excellency

            Which groups have condemned the Soviet Story documentary? The only ones to condemn it are groups loyal to Putin. National Socialism is still socialism. I noticed that you ignore actual collaboration between the two socialist ideologies. Typical of the Left to distract others from their crimes…how despicable. Hitler’s leftist dream failed. But by your logic, WEB Du Bois and George Bernard Shaw, among others, including Walter Ulbritcht (who was supported by Fidel Castro) were right-wingers due to similar policies.

          • Reco2

            Jewish groups who see it as a disgusting attempt to distract the world from the crimes of the Rightwing Balkan states.

            I noted that you continue to ignore that GERMAN CAPITALISTS activly supported the holocaust and capitalist Hitler’s regime? What is your argument? You dont’ have one!

            The Nazis and their conservative allies invaded the USSR- TOGETHER!

            Hitler’s rightist dream failed, btw- German capitalists were taken over soviet industry as the German army swept through Russia…..that is why Nazism is seen as far right you moronic bufoon!

            Hitler did not appoint any of the people you mentioned to government positions. He appointed conservatives.

            Why do you deny capitalists crimes like providing Zykon B to the Nazis and building the ovens???? You truly are a denier.

          • His Excellency

            Hitler was a socialist. National Socialism was socialist. The Nazis and their leftist allies invaded France and attacked Britain BEFORE they made a 180 degree turn on the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and invaded the USSR in 1941. Hitler’s leftist dream failed, but not before German radical socialists tried to take over Western industries, as the invasions of Western countries took place during the war. I noticed that you continue to deny the fact that there was collaboration between the Third Reich and the Bolsheviks in instigating the Holocaust, as documented by the Soviet Story documentary. By the way, can you name a single Jewish group that has condemned the accurate documentary? Because the only groups that had condemned the documentary are groups loyal to Putin. You truly are a denier and a pendejo, fool.

          • Reco2

            Hitler was a capitalist, National Socialism was indeed a capitalist ideology. Again, GERMAN CAPITALISTS provided the gas for the extermantion camps and the ovens- how you have been avoiding that fact.

            That alone proves the Nazis were rightwing capitalists, they also had a far right foreign policy- invading the USSR in a grand conservative alliance.

            Jewish Communities Alliance voiced their disgust at the revision. Efraim Zuroff of the Simon Wiesental center has also condemned such disgusting revisisim, it was the rightist balkans that partcipated in the holocaust, Jewish groups ackowledge that.

          • His Excellency

            Hitler was a socialist. National Socialism was indeed a socialist ideology, as implied by its very name. They also had a far-left foreign policy-invading France and attacking Britain in a grand leftist alliance. And, no. None of the groups you mentioned have condemned the Soviet Story documentary. Why are opponents of Israel are on the radical left, fool?

          • Reco2

            HAHA, you kind of lost that argument when you refused to condemn how GERMAN CAPITALISTS eagerly supported Hitler’s regimes, providing poisen gas and ovens…..Invading the USSR is a “far left foreign policy”? Gee, Reagan must have been a communist if that was the case……you have turned into a joke.

          • His Excellency

            Ha, ha, ha. You kind of lost the argument when you refuse to acknowledge the fact that GERMAN RADICAL SOCIALISTS eagerly supported Hitler’s regime, and how the Soviets helped the Third Reich to instigate the Holocaust, as documented by the Soviet Story documentary. Invading France and attacking Britain is a “far right foreign policy”? Gee, Castro must have been a conservative if that was the case (he intervened in Angola and many other countries in Africa, as well as in the Western Hemisphere)…you have turned into a joke, pendejo.

          • Reco2

            Oh dear, you still refuse to admit that GERMAN CAPITALISTS provided Zykon B and the ovens to the extermation camps? Yes, Hitler was a close ally of the German Capitalists, he exeucted socialists and threw them out of France which was ruled by a socialist party at the time of invasion, Nice own goal- fool!

            Castro a conservative? Castro was anti capitalist, Hitler was pro capitalist etc. Quite a big differnce fool!

          • His Excellency

            I was being sarcastic regarding Castro being a conservative. Both Hitler and Castro were anti-capitalist. German radical socialists supported Hitler. And, no. France was not socialist at the time of the invasion. And Britain under Churchill was definitely not socialist. Try again.

  • His Excellency

    If National Socialism was not socialist, then what was it? The fact is that National Socialism was socialist and anti-capitalist. Hitler and Goebbels made it very clear about that. They got some support from other socialists. And no , France wasn’t socialist at the time of the German invasion in 1940. And Britain was led by a conservative government during much of the war.

    • Reco2

      LOL, a non-capitalist accuses a regime that had the Support of Germany’s biggest capitalists of being socialist……not uncommon among the Right who are known for their stupidity. France was socialist at the time of the invasion, they replaced a socialist president with a conservative military officer.

      • His Excellency

        Lol. A non-democrat accuses a regime that had the support of some of Germany’s biggest socialists of being capitalist…not uncommon among the Left who are known for their stupidity. And France wasn’t socialist at the time of the invasion. And Britain was definitely conservative during the war, fighting an expansionist socialist regime.

        • Reco2

          A non democrat? rich coming from you, Pinochet supporter…..No, you are a non capitalist arguing that a regime supported by Germany’s richest capitalist was in fact socialist? You are a brainless clown. And i note, being a democrat has nothing to with economics, I noticed how you avoided the issue which quite telling….give it up.

          France was socialist, destroyed by a rightwing and expansionist capitalist regime!

          • His Excellency

            France wasn’t socialist. It was taken over by an expansionist, left-wing socialist regime. National Socialism was socialism and Germany was socialist in those years. By the way, why do you support Castro if you are truly a democrat? You still haven’t answered that question, pendejo.

          • Reco2

            hmmm, my comment was posted….what a suprise.

            France was socialist, Nazi Germany on the otherhand was a rightwing and capitalist state…indeed, Germany’s capitalists were major supporters of Hitler whilst politicians of the left were often executed… the most famous German capitalists were the members of the board that run IG farben….a private company.

          • Reco2

            France was socialist, Third Reich was a capitalist state and conservative…..see Krupp etc. Again, I note that you avoided the issue of Hitler’s support for capitalist……Charles de Gaulle even nationalised companies who supported rightwing capitalist Hitler……..Castro liberated cuba from Batista’s tyranny!

          • His Excellency

            France wasn’t socialist. The Third Reich was…see Berlin transit strike, Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, Liberal Fascism book, Soviet Story documentary, etc. Again, I note that you avoided the issue of Hitler’s support for socialism. Charles de Gaulle opposed the Ho Chi Minh Communist movement in Vietnam. Castro simply replaced one tyranny with another. There is still no democracy in Cuba today, compared with Chile. Get your facts straight, moron.

          • Reco2

            France was socialist, Third Reich was capitalist…and the FrenchCapitalists and Charles De Gaulle KNEW IT! Why he nationalized many French industries. Castro overthrew a dictatorial and murderous government, Pinochet overthrew LA’s oldest democracy……yet, the fascists thinks Castro is the bad guy…LOL

          • His Excellency

            How do you know that Chile was Latin America’s oldest democracy? Or are you pulling that out of your a** again? In any case, that democracy was on the verge of crumbling due to misguided policies with help from Castro’s Cuba. Which brings me to my next point. Castro replaced one tyranny with another. And yes, he is the bad guy. He brought the world to the brink of nuclear destruction, which was averted only because Khrushchev pulled the missiles out of Cuba. The Castro family dictatorship has also been excessively repressive throughout the years. Mandated food rations (which have been around since 1962) have daily portions that are smaller than the rations that the Spanish colonial government mandated that Cuban slaves had on a daily basis in 1842, at a time when Cuba was a Spanish colony). And how about the so-called “car accident” that killed prominent Cuban dissident Oswaldo Payá in 2012? Is Payá, who is a democrat, a “fascist” to you simply for opposing the Castro family dictatorship? As for France, it wasn’t socialist when World War II began. De Gaulle wasn’t a socialist. De Gaulle’s party, the UME, is center-right, that is the party of Sarkozy. The Third Reich was socialist.National Socialism was socialism. Enough with your f**k**g lies and revisionist propaganda, you a**hole.

          • Reco2

            It was Latin America’s oldest democracy, destroyed by the fascists and the conservative allies.

            Castro defeated the dictatorial fascists of Cuba who slaughtered 20 000 people in seven years, the fascists have never forgiven him for their humiliation.

            The De Gaulle government nationalized owned by the capitalists who supported the Rightwing capitalist Adolf Hitler, I can name the companies if you like? UME is center Right, NSDAP was far right……quite simple!

          • His Excellency

            No proof that Chile had Latin America’s oldest democracy. And that democracy, by the way, was on the verge of being destroyed by Castro and Brezhnev. After a period of military rule. Chile returned to democracy, which it still is today. Castro defeated an autocratic government that was responsible for at most 3,000 deaths in seven years. The Castro dictatorship is responsible for over 100,000 deaths since 1959 (14,000 during the 1960s alone, another 15,000 in subsequent decades, and almost 70,000 trying to escape Cuba by sea). The De Gaulle government was conservative. Some socialists in France, like a local Communist Party newspaper, welcomed the left-wing socialist Nazi invasion in 1940. You are right that UME is center right, but the NSDAP is far-left. Just the full name of the party, which has the words “socialist” and “workers”, showed that the NSDAP was left-wing. Quite simple, pendejo.

          • His Excellency

            By the way, Batista fought against the Nazis when they tried to invade the Caribbean during World War II. Batista is by no means ideal, but the Castro brothers are far worse. Fidel Castro once owned a copy of Mein Kampf, pendejo.

          • IchBinEinJellyDoughnut

            Are you kidding, you are even going to argue against Chile’s historical status as the longest Latin American democracy (until Kissenger/Pinochet put the military in power because they didn’t like the outcome of an election). You need to stop posting now and go start reading. You are embarrassing your future literate self.

          • His Excellency

            Kissinger had nothing to do with the coup and was even surprised by it. This “Kissinger did it” mantra was Castro propaganda that was debunked by strong, surfaced facts. Meanwhile, Allende (who never won a majority in any election, which took place almost three years before the coup) was a proxy of both Brezhnev and Castro. He committed suicide using the shotgun given to him as a gift by Fidel Castro. You still didn’t show how Chile had Latin America’s oldest democracy. Castro and Brezhnev overthrew the prime minister of Grenada, Eric Gairy, and install Maurice Bishop as Grenada’s leader because they didn’t like the election outcome in that island country. Thanks for proving that you are not only a New Left radical, but you are also an unreconstructed Stalinist/Maoist. You don’t like facts that disprove your propaganda.

          • IchBinEinJellyDoughnut

            To maintain that Kissinger, the CIA, and other American interests had nothing to do with the coup – or that Allende was just a puppet of Brezhnev and Castro (you mean the puppet Castro had his own puppet?) – YOU, once again, have to disregard the main line of historical understanding of those days. Get a book, go to Wiki, do something to educate yourself. The Nixon administration wasn’t pure evil, but it was an involved actor in the cold war events of the times. The documentation of American involvement, both directly and indirectly, in overthrowing Chilean democracy is ridiculously plentiful. Stop waving your Little Red-State Book around and calling everybody who disagrees with your New Left, etc. It’s annoying and has nothing to do with the case you are trying to make. If you find your argument is on the extremes, chances are it is you that is the extremist.

          • His Excellency

            Wrong. You are repeating Castro propaganda again. Nixon and Kissinger were completely taken by surprise with that coup. There is no evidence that they financed the coup, period. Meanwhile, Castro and Brezhnev had a puppet state in Chile and Allende was their puppet. They were so embarrassed by how Chile rejected Marxism that they had to come up with a lie that persists in left-wing academia. And yes, the New Left also repeats Castroite propaganda. By the way, you ignore the Soviet/Cuban involvement in Grenada, Ethiopia and other places as well.

          • IchBinEinJellyDoughnut

            I’ll not belabor the historical facts to which your reason seems immune. As to the Marxist involvement in Grenada, Ethiopia etc… I’m quite aware of it, though that’s really a separate issue – and has nothing to do with this discussion. Regarding Chile, your mention of Communist and Marxist participation in Chilean democracy – homegrown and foreign-funded Marxism – was a motive of Nixon/Kissinger/ATT/etc opposing and undermining the socialist President. Our government would have had no cause to support the overthrow of Chilean democracy had that democracy elected more ideologically acceptable leadership. Please tell me you at least accept that our government has a pretty long track record of undermining elected and unelected governments that act contrary to US governmental and/or corporate interests.

    • IchBinEinJellyDoughnut

      In answer to your question, National Socialism was not truly socialist but fascist: What is fascism? Lets quote Mussolini, “Fascism… is the merger or state and corporate power.” Capitalism and the state develop a symbiotic relationship which takes precedence over the interests of the people (the middle and lower classes).

      • His Excellency

        Fascism is still socialism. A variety of it promotes corporatism, similar to what you see in Communist China today. Both Fascism and Communism despise capitalism and the free market, the key being being the nationalism vs. internationalism issue. Try again.