The Culture of Death That Murdered Three Innocent Israeli Boys

thThe Western governments that have pressured Israel into making peace with the Ramallah-based Palestinian Authority must take into account this simple fact: it is impossible to make peace with a society whose culture is embedded with hate and death.  Amer Abu Aysha, 33, and Marwan Kawasme, 29, the apparent murderers of three innocent Jewish-Israeli teens: Naftali Frenkel, 16; Gilad Shaar, 16; and Eyal Yifrach, 19 are but two of thousands who have been carefully taught to hate and kill.

The Times of Israel (June 30, 2014) described the events that led to the heinous murders.  “The three teens were waiting at Geva’ot Intersection, west of the settlement of Alon Shvut in the Etzion Bloc south of Jerusalem, soon after 10:15 p.m., looking to catch a ride heading west on Route 367 toward Beit Shemesh, and from there to locations in central Israel where each of them lived.”

For decades Arab-Palestinian youth have been inculcated with a fanatical, genocidal hatred of Israel and Jews through the mosques, schools, and government controlled media.  Despite the legislative powers granted the Palestinian Authority as a result of the Oslo Accords, Israeli concessions including the release of Palestinian terrorist murderers, the unilateral withdrawal from Gaza, and any future Israel concessions, it would be an illusion to think that the Palestinians will come to terms with a sovereign and independent Jewish state.

An op-ed written by Fathi Al-Bis, in Al Hayat Al-Jadida, the official mouthpiece of the Palestinian Authority (PA) on June 23, 2014, is most revealing.  Al-Bis writes: “Israel – a product of myth, racism and war – believes that the conflagration in the region gives it a free hand and respite, and that the flames won’t reach it. It therefore continues to kill, burn, destroy and attack, in all the forms inappropriate to human beings. Its leaders forget that these flames are burning because of it, and will be directed towards it in the end.  Israel’s racist and extremist leadership has not learned its lesson. For over 60 years now, it has been killing, causing [people] to flee, expelling, taking prisoners, winning wars and annexing lands. But in reality, it is in crisis, because it has not succeeded in extinguishing the flames in the soul of the Palestinian…

The Israeli lives in the helmets of the soldiers of myth, who are killers and savages…

With the excuse of the disappearance of three settlers (i.e., On June 12, 2014, three Israeli teens were kidnapped and murdered while hitchhiking in the West Bank) who were on a land which did not belong to them, while robbing and challenging the owners of the land, Israel does as it pleases in the West Bank, and threatens Gaza… The Palestinian, with [his] Arab loyalty and identity which knows no sectarianism, confronts Israel. He observes with sadness the flames that surround him and that divert the people of the Arab nation from the duty of the basic and central confrontation, which is with the barbaric Israel. He looks forward to the day when the flames of [this] abhorrent sectarianism will be extinguished, so that everyone will be free to bury the [Israeli] myth that is being lived by the bloodthirsty, helmet-clad and rifle-bearing soldier.”

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’ call for the return of the three kidnapped (now murdered) boys to their families may have been genuine, but we must not forget that his legitimacy comes from abroad, especially from the U.S. administration and the European Union (E.U.), not from the Palestinian people.  Abbas (a.k.a. Abu Mazen) has done little to transform or reform the Palestinian educational system.  He has failed his people and the prospects of peace by neglecting to prepare Palestinian youth for peace.  Instead, Abbas and his Ramallah-based regime have encouraged a culture of hate, violence, and death.

This anti-Jewish, anti-Israel incitement that the PA douses its people with in the West Bank (Judea and Samaria) is more than matched by the fanatical hatred coming out of the Islamist regime of Hamas in Gaza. While Abbas and his so called “secular” Fatah party led regime pretend to want accommodation with Israel, Hamas is clear and unapologetic about its aim to destroy the Jewish state.

A Palestinian Unity government that brought together Fatah and Hamas (a recognized terrorist organization) was sworn in on June 2, 2014, and, despite Israeli concerns that it will be dangerously influenced by Hamas, State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki announced that same day, “We intend to work with this government, but will be watching closely to make sure it upholds the principles that President Abbas reiterated today.” Psaki added that the U.S. would continue to disperse foreign assistance to the unity government but would “evaluate the policies and positions of the new government.”

As a signatory to the Oslo Accords the U.S. is obligated to condition (financial) aid to the Palestinians based on the fulfillment of their commitment to end incitement against Jews and Israelis.  This however has not been the case.  There have been – at best – fainthearted efforts on the part of the U.S. and the E.U to demand an end to the demonization of Israel and Jews.  Ending Palestinian incitement has not been elevated to a cardinal demand in peace negotiations initiated by the U.S.

Yet, since the Palestinian Authority was established it has systematically indoctrinated young and old to hate Israelis and Jews. Using media, education, and cultural structures that it controls, the PA has actively promoted religious hatred, demonization, conspiracy libels, etc. These are packaged to present Israelis and Jews as endangering Palestinians, Arabs, and all humanity.

This ongoing campaign has been so successful that fighting, murdering and even committing acts of suicide terror against Israelis and Jews are justified by the majority of Palestinians as acting in self-defense and performing Allah’s will. Incitement and demonization constitutes a treaty violation by the Palestinians and reflects on the PA’s failure, since the 1993 Oslo Accords, to create a social climate conducive to peace with Israel.  Arafat, Abbas and the PA did not prepare the Palestinian people to understand that they too must make painful concessions for peace, and that the 1948 refugees and their descendants will not be allowed to return to Israel.  Moreover, the PA has rejected recognition of Israel as a “State of the Jews,” and, has not renounced the dream of liquidating the Jewish state.  Perhaps worst of all, the PA has failed to end the “culture of death.”

In a 2008 broadcast on Al-Aqsa TV Hamas MP Fathi Hammad addressed the Zionists of Israel saying, “We desire death like you desire life.” And, the PA continues to glorify suicide bombers who murder Israelis.  City streets and schools are named after them.  A school in Gaza was named after Dalal Mughrabi who killed 37 Israeli civilians in the 1978 Coastal Highway Bus attack.  The students told interviewers that Mughrabi is a role model for them to emulate.

In his Wall Street Journal opinion piece (July 1, 2014) Bret Stephens keenly asked: “What kind of society produces such mothers? Whence the women who cheer on their boys to blow themselves up or murder the children of their neighbors?” Stephens concluded that “As for the Palestinians and their inveterate sympathizers in the West, perhaps they should note that a culture that too often openly celebrates martyrdom and murder is not fit for statehood, and that making excuses for that culture only makes it more unfit.” The cliché among many western elites that all human beings are able to relate on some level, whatever their cultural differences, is sheer bunk.  The Palestinian culture of death that cut short the lives of three promising young Israeli boys is indeed unique, and deadly.

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  • ObamaYoMoma

    Amer Abu Aysha, 33, and Marwan Kawasme, 29, the apparent murderers of three innocent Jewish-Israeli teens: Naftali Frenkel, 16; Gilad Shaar, 16; and Eyal Yifrach, 19 are but two of thousands who have been carefully taught to hate and kill.

    Uhm… the number is slightly underestimated here. More like two of an estimated 1.8 billion Muslims, as waging jihad in one form or another, either violently or non-violently, which is a holy war waged by all Muslims against all infidels to ultimately make Islam supreme, is a fundamental holy obligation incumbent upon all Muslims in the world, and because Islam is a so-called religion that executes all apostates and all blasphemers, all mainstream orthodox Muslims in the world, as opposed to just a few radicals and extremists, are jihadists in one form or another. Otherwise, they are executed for apostasy and blasphemy according to the dictates of Islam.

    In fact, waging jihad in one form or another, either violently or non-violently, is the sixth and most important pillar of Islam, and it is the last thing the Islamic totalitarian world wants infidels to know about Islam.

    Of course, this begs the question why? Because the sole fundamental purpose of mainstream orthodox Islam, which because there can only be one kind of Islam is the only kind of Islam, is to subjugate all infidels and all religions into Islamic totalitarianism, i.e., harsh and degrading dhimmitude, through both violent and non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad and the eventual imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law, to ultimately make Islam supreme throughout the whole world.

    Thus, the reality is even if Jewish infidels in Israel caved in to their demands and created a so-called Palestinian state, it would still not end the Islamic totalitarian world’s jihad waged primarily through their so-called Palestinian proxies against the Jewish infidels. It would just make it astronomically far harder for them to defend themselves against jihad. Indeed, the jihad can never end until Islam has been made supreme throughout what is Israel and the Jewish infidels have been rendered into Islamic totalitarianism, i.e., harsh and degrading dhimmitude. However before that eventuality ever happened, there would be an enormous blood bath that would ensue consisting of only Jewish blood. Hence, because of this, Israel can never surrender. Not to mention that harsh and degrading dhimmitude is a fate worse than death.

    However, Israel is not alone, as every infidel state in the world is also being targeted for the Islamic world’s never ending and relentless perpetual jihad, as that is the sole fundamental purpose of mainstream orthodox Islam.

    Thus, until the infidel world comes to its collective senses and decides to defend itself from the scourge of jihad, the Islamic totalitarian world will only become more and more emboldened.

    For decades Arab-Palestinian youth have been inculcated with a fanatical, genocidal hatred of Israel and Jews through the mosques, schools, and government controlled media.

    Being Arab or Palestinian had nothing to do with anything, but being a Muslim does, and it hasn’t been just happening for decades. It has been happening continuously since at least shortly after the Hijra in 622 AD, and it is not just against Jewish infidels, it is also against all infidels throughout the world who are considered to be less than human by the Islamic totalitarian world because they are not Muslims.

    • Americana

      If what you claim is true, there would be far more Muslim interfaith conflagration than is currently ongoing. The limited amount of jihadist friction indicates there is little interest currently in pushing for a worldwide Caliphate. It also indicates there are currently limits on the number of actual jihadists among the world’s Muslim populations otherwise millions would be flocking to the various jihads from the developed world instead of merely a few thousand.

      Where there is ongoing jihad and ongoing interfaith friction, it’s in regions that have been historically Muslim at various times. Those countries caught in the thrall of jihads are trying to suppress the jihadists but are facing difficulties because they’re less developed countries. Their militaries are very often limited in number and their military also has less combat experience.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        If what you claim is true, there would be far more Muslim interfaith conflagration than is currently ongoing. The limited amount of jihadist friction indicates there is little interest currently in pushing for a worldwide Caliphate.

        What are you unhinged? In reality the only reason Muslims engage in interfaith confabs with infidels is to insinuate why Islam is far superior and also for purposes of deception. Gullible useful idiot infidels like yourself inevitably like clockwork get burned in time by every one of those interfaith confabs. There is nothing to be gained whatsoever through such confabs with the devil.

        Moreover, stop confusing me with neo-cons, the goal of jihad is to ultimately make Islam supreme. Muslim Caliphates, on the other hand, are just more Islamic totalitarian failed states.

        What you mean limited amount of jihadist friction, every freaking Muslim immigrant to the West is a non-violent stealth and deceptive jihadists, since mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage in reality is non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad for the nefarious purposes of mass Muslim infiltration and demographic conquest.

        Indeed, the Islamic totalitarian world relative to the infidel west is a complete and utter basket case and as such can never hope to defeat us through the use of military force. However, via mass Muslim infiltration of our societies and eventual demographic conquest, through mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage, Muslims can very much defeat us. As a matter of fact, unless something very drastic happens near term, several Euroloon countries in Europe will become Muslim majority countries in the second half of this century thanks to Islamic stealth demographic conquest.

        Hence, the most important step the infidel west can take to protect itself from the scourge of jihad is to ban and reverse mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage ASAP, as zero Muslims equals zero jihad.

        It also indicates there are currently limits on the number of actual jihadists among the world’s Muslim populations otherwise millions would be flocking to the various jihads from the developed world instead of merely a few thousand.

        You’re stupidly assuming like the neo-cons that Muslim jihadists are strictly terrorists, i.e., that they only fight via the use of force and violence. However, astronomically far more Muslims wage jihad via non-violent means relative to violent means. As a matter of fact, mass Muslim immigration to the infidel west with all of its excess baggage, where millions of Muslims have migrated to the infidel west for the nefarious purposes of mass Muslim infiltration and eventual demographic conquest, is exponentially far more prevalent relative to those Muslims that elect to wage jihad via violence. In addition, it also represents an astronomically far greater threat for the infidel west relative to the threat emanating from violent jihad as well. Man you have an incredibly narrow-mind.

        Where there is ongoing jihad and ongoing interfaith friction, it’s in regions that have been historically Muslim at various times.

        The regions that were at one time part of the Islamic totalitarian empire, such as Israel, Spain, Sicily, Crete, and parts of Greece, for instance, must be reconquered and as such certainly represents a higher priority. Indeed, that’s one of the reasons why the jihad being waged by the Islamic totalitarian world through their proxies – the so-called Palestinian – against the Jewish infidel in Israel takes up so much space in the news, as the demise of the Jewish infidel state of Israel is one of their highest priorities.

        As a matter of fact, even if Israel gave in to every single one of their demands, it would not mean peace. It would mean surrender. Indeed, after the ensuing blood bath of Jewish infidels relented, the surviving Jewish infidels would be subjugated into Islamic totalitarianism, i.e., harsh and degrading dhimmitude, which is a fate worse than death.

        Thus, just like we see that all infidels unfortunate enough to be stuck living under Islamic totalitarian rule today are always harshly oppressed and persecuted when not outright being raped, kidnapped, and murdered, that reality would become the Jewish infidel’s bleak reality. Yet, because you obviously hate Jews with an unhinged passion – that is what you have been working and striving to achieve for numerous years.

        Those countries caught in the thrall of jihads are trying to suppress the jihadists but are facing difficulties because they’re less developed countries. Their militaries are very often limited in number and their military also has less combat experience.

        Not really, the USA, for instance, could easily turn the entire Islamic totalitarian world into glass if it chose to do so, and most Euroloon countries could single handedly choose to easily defeat the Islamic totalitarian world too if they chose to do so, but because they have been blinded by the cult of PC multiculturalism, they don’t even freaking realize that the Islamic totalitarian world is waging jihad against them via mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage that is really non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad to ultimately make Islam supreme though mass Muslim infiltration of our societies and via eventual demographic conquest. As a matter of fact, you yourself don’t even realize it either.

        • Americana

          Stop confusing you w/the neocons? When your level of diatribe is identical to those of neocons? You give no sign that you’re aware that Israel has signed two different peace treaties w/Eypt first in 1989 under Pres. Carter and then w/Jordan in 1994 under Pres. Clinton. If those countries can sign peace accords w/Israel then surely the Palestinians could at least be given a similar peace opportunity. it might need to be subject to being under a military protectionist agreement w/outside entities to protect Israel but I’m assuming that such additional security measures are the only thing that would assure Israel her security interests will be first and foremost.

          I’d hardly say the Muslims coming to this country are all waging stealth jihad. If they were, there’d be more money flowing into the jihadist coffers than there is from U.S. Muslims. There’d also be more American immigrant Muslims returning to wage jihad in their home countries or volunteering to wage jihad here in the U.S. at a far higher rate than is happening.

          http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/middle-eastern-and-north-african-immigrants-united-states

          • aspacia

            Americana,
            Please read Egyptian and Jordanian news for insight. Both nearly ripped the treaties you mention to shreds. No poster claims all Muslim immigrants wage jihad, albeit some are against the West and travel to any cauldron of ME war for a quick ticket to paradise. After 9/11 many U.S. Muslims woke-up, verbally attack Muslim Jihadis, and Jasser leads the them, but these vocal American patriots are threatened and ostracized from their community and often their mosques.

            Americana, you are mislead by the academic liberals, albeit I am an academic, but no liberal. Because I would lose employment in our pc schools and colleges I kept my mouth shut, but thankfully am now retired and fight the wrongheaded nature of myopic liberalism that fail to see what jihadis do to other Muslims, Christians and any nonMuslim.

            What happened to those 3 youths clearly demonstrates Muslim cowardice as they cannot win in a fair fight, they blame others for their savagery.

          • Webb

            Nope dumbass, the homeless arabs don’t get any more opportunities. They’ve squandered all their opportunities. It’s over.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Stop confusing you w/the neocons? When your level of diatribe is identical to those of neocons? You give no sign that you’re aware that Israel has signed two different peace treaties w/Eypt first in 1989 under Pres. Carter and then w/Jordan in 1994 under Pres.

            You mean 1979 with respect to Egypt you ignoramus. Meanwhile if you can’t distinguish my arguments from neocon arguments, then that’s your fault, not mind.

            Give me a break. You are so damn boring, not to mention senseless. It’s just pathetic! Both head of states – Anwar El-Sadat and King Hussein – that signed peace treaties with Israel were not real Muslims, which is why they were considered to be apostate rulers that must be executed. Meanwhile, one of them inevitably was.

            Indeed, any Muslim who makes the mistake of signing a permanent peace deal with an infidel state, as opposed to a Hudna, which is only a temporary truce, will inevitably become a target for assassination, as the only peace that Islam recognizes between Muslims and infidels is the peace that comes after every last infidel in the world has been subjugated into harsh and degrading dhimmitude, i.e., when Islam has become supreme.

            As a matter of fact, when Arafat signed the Oslo Peace Accords, which allowed his return out of exile in Tunisia back into the disputed territories in Israel to head up the Palestinian Authority, he immediately undertook a whirlwind tour of the Islamic totalitarian world to explain in Arabic to the Islamic totalitarian world that he had only signed the Oslo Peace Accords in the spirit of Muhammad’s infamous Treaty of Hudaibiya. In other words, he was letting them know in no uncertain terms that he planned from the very get go to renege on the deal so that some Muslims wouldn’t get a wild hair and execute him.

            If those countries can sign peace accords w/Israel then surely the Palestinians could at least be given a similar peace opportunity.

            Yeah right, a recent Washington Institute for Near East Policy poll, (not exactly a right wing think tank), found that 64% of so-called Palestinians say that after a peace deal is signed with Israel, “resistance should continue until all of historic Palestine is liberated.” And 65% say that the Palestinian Arab leadership agrees; that any negotiated solution “would be part of a ‘program of stages,’ to liberate all of historic Palestine later.”

            Again, the only peace deal that Muslims will sign with infidels is a Hudna, which is only a temporary truce that in time will inevitably be broken as always. As the only peace that Islam recognizes is the total subjugation into dhimmitude of all infidels. You can deny it all you like, but it is nevertheless the unvarnished truth and the very harsh reality.

            it might need to be subject to being under a military protectionist agreement w/outside entities to protect Israel but I’m assuming that such additional security measures are the only thing that would assure Israel her security interests will be first and foremost.

            Only a country with a certain death wish would be dumb enough place their own security in the hands of other countries. Give me a freaking break. You’re hilarious. And you say you never make dumb statements. Yeah right!

            I remember the last time when the UN placed UN Security forces on the border between Lebanon and Israel to protect the Israelis from the Hezbos. After some UN Security forces were first targeted by the Hezbos, the remainder of the UN Security forces started providing the Hezbos intelligence on the whereabouts and movements of the IDF.

            I’d hardly say the Muslims coming to this country are all waging stealth jihad. If they were, there’d be more money flowing into the jihadist coffers than there is from U.S. Muslims. There’d also be more American immigrant Muslims returning to wage jihad in their home countries or volunteering to wage jihad here in the U.S. at a far higher rate than is happening.

            Of course, considering the stupidity of what you write, you are more than naïve, you are utterly unhinged.

            Nonetheless, Islam is far more an extremely rabid form of totalitarianism that seeks to make itself supreme than it is a so-called religion, and just like the old Communist Soviet Union sent all non-conformers to the Soviet Gulags, all non-conformers in the Islamic totalitarian world are summarily executed for either apostasy or blasphemy.

            Hence, all mainstream orthodox Muslims in the world are jihadists in one form or another, either violent or non-violent. Otherwise, they are executed for apostasy and blasphemy according to the dictates of Islam.

            Moreover, non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad relative to violent varieties of jihad are astronomically far more prevalent. Indeed, mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage to the infidel west in reality is really non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad for the nefarious purposes of mass Muslim infiltration of our societies and for eventual demographic conquest, and as a threat to the infidel west it also exponentially represents a far greater threat than from the threat that emanates from violent jihadists such as AQ.

            As a matter of fact, the Islamic totalitarian world is so backwards and so dysfunctional relative to the infidel west that it can never hope to defeat us via military force. However, via mass Muslim infiltration of our societies and eventual demographic conquest, they most certainly can defeat us. Indeed, unless something very drastic happens near term, there are several Euroloon countries in Europe that inevitably will become Muslim majority countries in the second half of this century via non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad, i.e., demographic conquest.

            Hence, only a loon could be moronic enough to ignore the obvious.

            Not to mention, that Muslim immigrants never ever assimilate and integrate into infidel societies, since it would mean them morphing into becoming infidels, and that is a capital offense in Islam. Thus, like clockwork they first form Muslim enclaves that in time inevitably morph into Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia that are in effect tiny Islamic statelets within the host infidel states, i.e., little Hamastans. In these Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia, local and state police forces, fire departments, and ambulances dare not go, because they will be attacked by Muslims if they do.

            As a matter of fact, France did a survey a few years ago and found that there were in excess of 700 Muslim no-go zones in France alone.

            Indeed, can you point to any single group of Muslim immigrants anywhere in the world actually assimilating, integrating, and matriculating into contributing and productive members of infidel societies? Because if you can, you will be the first ever to do so in all the many years I have been posing this question to ignoramuses like you. Please excuse me if I won’t hold my breath again.

      • Webb

        You’re a terrorist. You’re a terrorist in the same way Huma Weiner is a terrorist. You prepare the way for the jihadis by telling people 95% of the time not to worry about them because they’re not that bad, and besides, America, Great Britain, and Israel have also committed atrocities. You out yourself by being a constant apologist, notwithstanding your occasional comment 5% of the time that terrorists should be brought to justice – but even by that you mean Sharia justice instead of genuine justice. So you don’t have anyone here fooled. You’re the fool.

        • Americana

          Interesting that you completely fail in the factual evaluation of information I’ve provided in my posts, Webb. Interesting also that you’d try to libel my posts by claiming I’ve stressed that the British and the Americans have committed war atrocities when I haven’t done so. I’ve only mentioned the terrorism of the Irgun and the Haganah because the Israelis would like to conveniently forget that their terrorism is what caused Britiain to abandon the lengthy diplomatic withdrawal and transference process and, instead, simply say this is the date we’re leaving. (You must also have forgotten the claim by FPM folks that the British left in order to allow for a massacre of the entire Jewish population in Palestine. As if the British would ever do that simply because the Irgun had used terrorism against the British troops and British diplomats.)

          I’m not an apologist nor am I a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer simply because I say we cannot hope to influence the internal politics of these jihadis and therefore we must opt for withdrawal and observation and perhaps planting spies within their ranks. I’ve never once suggested that jihadists should be subject to sharia justice. So, either practice a bit more careful reading or I’ll keep pointing out the numerous misrepresentations you’ve made in each and every post.

          • Webb

            In addition to having a personality disorder along with mania, I’d guess you’re a wiccan. What meds have they had you try?

          • Americana

            By jeebers, you will simply throw anything and everything into your arguments… Let your own insanity rip! Now we now you also abhor Wiccans. Are you sure you didn’t mean to write that you abhor “We can” type folks?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Britain survived the Blitz and the devastation of London and Coventry and never surrendered,

            but a few bombs directed at British military targets in “palestine” were enough to scare the Brits out?

            What happened to the Brits between 1945 and 1948 that made them so scared that they left “palestine”?

            The arrogant Brits thought they could teach the uppity Jews a lesson by removing their “protection”, knowing that the Jews were poorly armed, and expecting 5 Arab armies to do the British their dirty work of massacring the uppity Jews.

            But it didn’t work out the war the Brits expected.

            Happy Independence from Britain Day – AKA July 4th!

          • Americana

            Oh, so you’d like to diminish the number of bombs and the assassinations the British troops and British diplomats suffered? Nope, you’re not going to get away w/that. If you’re proud of Israel’s founding, you’re proud of ALL of it — from the terrorism right up through your declaration of independence. The British left because they didn’t want to be responsible for fighting Jewish terrorism the way it would have required. The British also felt they wouldn’t be able to muster enough antipathy among British troops to fight the nascent Israelis the way it would have required considering the Holocaust and the presence of Holocaust survivors. Anti-Semitism caused the British to leave the Israelis at the mercy of the Arabs? No, more like a miscalculation on both the part of the Israeli Irgun and the British government viz what Arab governments would do.

            A British filmmaker made a film about this time period: http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2011/jan/23/peter-kosminsky-palestine-mandate-drama

        • hiernonymous

          “You’re a terrorist in the same way Huma Weiner is a terrorist. ”

          You mean, as in “there is exactly no evidence that either is a terrorist?” Right on.

    • swemson

      ObamaYoMoma is right on when he says that the goal of the Muslim world is to subjugate EVERYONE world-wide to Islam, and kill everyone who refuses to submit to the rules of their barbarous cult. The may well be lots of moderate muslims, but to think they are representative of islam as a whole is a dangerous mistake that presents a serious dilemma to those looking for a solution to the problem caused by all the “non-peaceful” muslims.

      The problem is that the murder, mayhem & misery caused worldwide by muslims, has been with us for as long as Islam itself. This fact alone makes it fairly obvious that there is no real and permanent solution to the violence and misery caused by muslims worldwide. It’s clear to me that there are several fatal flaws in the foundation of muslim ideology that makes it virtually impossible for muslims to live in peace with those of other faiths for any length of time…

      Consequently, non-muslims, having an unquestioned right to self defense, and to their own freedom to live in peace, have the moral right to eliminate this threat from their lives, communities, societies, and indeed their world, in the same way that we try to rid ourselves from having scorpions and other poisonous insects in our homes, we try to kill them all. Of course, just as is the case with scorpions, and with other deadly threats such as the ebola virus, there are simply too many muslims worldwide to ever accomplish a total eradication of the threat, even if we wanted to.

      That leaves me with only one possible conclusion, and that is: if we, cannot solve the problem from the outside, it must be solved from within the muslim world itself. That places the responsibility for solving the problem squarely on the shoulders of all of those alleged “peace loving” muslims that the liberal left is always supporting, and that includes all muslim women, who are, in fact, the biggest victims of muslim brutality of all.

      Anyone looking at the statistics can easily see that muslims murder far more muslims, (many of them defenseless women), than non-muslims. Assuming that we believe all of the politically correct statistics that we’re constantly hearing from our far left leaders and media, that the violent muslims represent such a tiny percentage of muslims world wide, then this is a goal that should be possible to achieve. I’m all in favor of non-muslims doing whatever they can, to help peaceful muslims clean up their own house, however I really don’t want to see any more of our precious young men & women in our military have to put their lives at risk by trying to act as policemen in those muslim countries where all the trouble comes from. I’d rather let them kill each other, because as the old saying goes (referring to all of those allegedly peaceful muslims), “if they’re not part of the solution, then they’re part of the problem”.

      This is why I frankly have no pity for any of the allegedly peaceful muslims. It’s their problem, let them clean it up. And while I wouldn’t endorse a policy of killing all muslims, I most definitely would endorse a policy of shutting our borders to them, deporting all of those who are here, and establishing a total blockade of all communications, travel & trade with any nations ruled by a muslim theocracy, as well as muslim dominated nations that don’t protect the rights of non-muslim people living in those countries.

      One simply cannot be a good muslim and a good American at the same time. We’ve seen what dreadful problems muslim immigrants have caused in many European countries, and therefore we have both the right, (and indeed the obligation to our children & grandchildren) to exclude them from residency in our country. Until the problem is solved, we must look at all muslims as our potential enemies, and treat them accordingly.

      As a starting point, I think that we should immediately deport one specific illegal muslim immigrant who happens to be living, at a simply outrageous cost to the American taxpayers, at the most prestigious address in our country.

      fs

      • ObamaYoMoma

        The may well be lots of moderate muslims, but to think they are representative of islam as a whole is a dangerous mistake that presents a serious dilemma to those looking for a solution to the problem caused by all the “non-peaceful” muslims.

        In Islam, there are no so-called moderate Muslims, as that notion is a Western PC multicultural invention created by moonbats that are dumb enough to believe that all cultures and all societies are somehow miraculously equal. Islam itself more than anything else is a very rabid of form of totalitarianism than it is a so-called religion, and just like the communist totalitarians threw non-conformers into the gulag, Muslims execute them for the capital offenses of apostasy and blasphemy. Indeed, the definition of a so-called moderate Muslim in Islam is a blasphemous apostate that must be executed.

        Now there are plenty of so-called professional moderate Muslims, but they are all non-violent stealth and deceptive jihadists pretending to be moderates while insisting at the same time that all the Muslim violence we see throughout the world on a global basis doesn’t have anything whatsoever to do with Islam. Instead, they want us to blame radical Islam for it. The only problem with that is there is no such thing as radical Islam, as like in the case of so-called moderate Muslims, it’s just another PC multicultural created invention.

        Indeed, the only true moderate Muslims that exist in Islam exist in secret because those people are really ex Muslim apostates, who will not divulge that information publicly because it would probably lead to their execution if they choose not to repent and so pretend to be devout Muslims again.

        That places the responsibility for solving the problem squarely on the shoulders of all of those alleged “peace loving” muslims that the liberal left is always supporting, and that includes all muslim women, who are, in fact, the biggest victims of muslim brutality of all.

        Again, read the above, those alleged “peace loving” Muslims that the liberal left always fights to protect because they know that Muslims never ever assimilate and integrate, in real life don’t actually exist. In Islam one is either a Muslim or an ex Muslim apostate, and if one is the latter, then he or she is summarily executed.

        • mark

          I think he is a stealth muslim seeking to missinform and deceive

      • Webb

        Oh no, there is a very real permanent solution to the violence and misery caused by muslims worldwide. Use cruise missiles to destroy their bridges, roads, dams, and electricity generating plants in order to keep them in the Stone Age which will prevent them from ever getting very far away from where they were born.

        • pete

          of course with a highly muzlo-sympathetic demander-in-chief, who has welcomed dozens of mulzims into his administration, that has happily helped change the political winds towards a far different direction, any effective support for Freedom and Democracy will be quite lacking.

          it’s the behind leading from behind.

  • Ganesha_akbar
    • Americana

      This Moroccan mother sounds mentally ill if you read stories about her. Just because a Muslim is mentioned in the news doesn’t mean it’s related to jihad. Read enough to connect the dots…

      • ObamaYoMoma

        She wouldn’t even be there if it weren’t for jihad.

      • Ganesha_akbar

        To be Muslim is to be mentally ill– the condition is deeply rooted in the vision of Islam’s paranoid schizophrenic prophet. Why these daily murderous manifestations of the phenomenon should surprise anyone (except the most unassailably ignorant and intransigent Leftists) anymore is beyond reasoning.

        But thanks for reminding folks that these same murderously delusional conditions are often defended or shared (sometimes applauded) by lunatic progressive Leftists. See also, “Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left.”

        • Americana

          Look, making this bizarro claim that Muslims are all paranoid schizophrenics and their prophet is a paranoid schizophrenic may play well to the FPM audience but it doesn’t play well to the world at large. There are likely nearly identical percentages for the various serious mental illnesses that involve lethal acting out against other human beings whether they are close family members or people outside one’s family circle, but it’s got NOTHING to do w/the religion. If it was related to the religion then we’d have statistics that demonstrated a far higher rate of mental illness among Muslims than other religious sects.

          • aspacia

            Americana, you commit serious rhetorical violations. Again, read ME news sources, Al Jazeera, is loaded with propaganda and distortions then try some critiques like Pipes ME Studies, MEMRI and PMW. If you are able to refute their claims with valid sources then do so, otherwise stop making a bigger fool of yourself with the pseudointellectual babble

          • Ganesha_akbar

            Devout Muslims by definition are in deep psychological denial concerning their condition and are never captured in mental health statistics (which rely on voluntary reporting). They are indoctrinated to be slaves of Allah– thus their slavish reflex to invoke “Inshallah” (if Allah wills) after every utterance. But these observations will never overcome your unassailable ignorance and inability to understand the limitations of statistical data.

            Cited evidence stands.

          • Americana

            Considering there have some very notable non-Muslim paranoid schizophrenics of various stripes that have committed some of the most horrendous of the recent mass shootings here in the U.S., it’s not surprising there are going to Muslims suffering from the same mental illnesses that the rest of humanity does. Your “cited evidence” doesn’t include the fact that the Muslim mother ran away and was caught screaming about “not being a thief” and the police said she was seemingly deranged.

          • Drakken

            It has everything to do with the false religion of islam, you goofy leftist make every excuse in the book for these sub human savages. Islam is islam and where ever islam goes, the blood always flows, without exception and your too bloody obtuse and ignorant to see what is right in front of you.

          • Webb

            It plays very well to the world at large. A vile apologist like yourself just doesn’t want to admit it. A lot of posters have spotted your mental illness and have called you on it. The world is getting extremely sick of your religion of peace.

          • Americana

            Another weird and totally off the wall webbinaire from someone who doesn’t know which way is up. I’m not mentally ill. (Though the whole gambit of assigning mental illness to anyone not thoroughly on board w/the FPM agenda et al is an interesting political tactic that’s been overblown the past two Presidential cycles. Everyone sees this mental illness tactic for what it is, so, enough already! You look like idiots keeping on trying to sell this.) As for my religion, I’m a Roman Catholic. (All your whacked claims about me being a Muslim notwithstanding. I’m not interested in seeing Islam spread anywhere by any means. If push comes to shove, the Western world will have to take military action but it’s not wise to expend all our military energies until the Muslim world has first done what it can and must do.)

      • aspacia

        Right? Remember Toulouse? How about poor Rigby?

      • Drakken

        It is a result of a thousand years of inbreeding that produce these sub human savages.

      • Webb

        It’s jihad, dimwit. Wise up.

  • Christopher Riddle

    This”SCUM”doesn’t need their own state;they need to be “ushered”into the hereafter ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Americana

    Muslims aren’t asked what their perspective on jihad is on a monthly basis or an annual basis or a bicentennial basis so there’s no way for apostate and blasphemer Musims to be executed because they fail to wage jihad as vehemently as the craziest of the loony imams would like since no Muslim authorities call them to account on their jihad participation. Let’s be real, yes, jihad is supposedly incumbent upon all good Muslims, but considering most Muslims are like most other faiths and are largely composed of slacker Muslims vs hot shot jihadist Muslims, there is and always will be a very small proportion of jihadist Muslims who wish to wreak havoc round the world.

    Yes, the creed calls for Islam to be imposed around the entire world but that creed was envisioned by a camel- and horse-mounted Muslim horde that managed to control only X-amount of territory. At some point, just like the Roman empire, the Muslim empire was stopped in its tracks. This will be the case again for the very same reasons the original worldwide Muslim Caliphate fell flat on its face.

    • aspacia

      Constantinople, Spain, Egypt, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc. The Caliphate dream still thrives in Turkey where Mein Kampf is a best seller.

    • Ganesha_akbar

      ^Leftist mea culpa

      Hope in one hand, jihad in the other– see which fills up first.

    • mark

      Actually, from your comments, its more likely your not a lefty or lieberal, but a muslim attemtping to pass yourself off as a non muslim

      • Americana

        A Muslim trying to pass myself off as a NON-MUSLIM??? Sorry, no, I’m a Roman Catholic. But please, feel free to keep up w/this fifth columnist Muslim BS if it makes you feel like a real smart guy.

      • mozart

        She is a BIG liar. NOT “Americana, ” most likely she is a British Muslim. Her own post to another FPM article claimed “dual citizenship.” It is best to ignore her aligned-with-the terorrist-Arabs/Muslims delusional rantings

        • hiernonymous

          You claimed to have a graduate degree – why not start posting in a manner that indicates such? You might start by looking up the word “Americana.” The word refers to artifacts and memorabilia related to America, and is a name that indicates an interest in, not origin in, America. It’s an appropriate name for a foreigner (from the American perspective) who takes a close interest in things American.

          When you make accusations of “lying,” it’s best to do so after you’ve made sure that you’re not simply being stupid.

        • Americana

          A British Muslim??? You’ve overreached! I’d never in my life consider Islam as my faith of choice. I’m far more American than I am British though my older sister is far more British than American. The difference in cultural veneer amongst all of us kids is the result of the total time each of us siblings spent time living in each of the countries. (I was never allowed to use the word ‘kids’ by my mum, for instance.) My father is a third-generation Irish-American and my mother was British, a WW II war bride. Both were Roman Catholics. My nickname arises from being called a ‘ragazza Americana’ by Italian peasants. My nickname is no more insidious than that… The nickname also earned a whole heap of BS from Jihad Watch whose JW Ladies Detective Agency fell flat on their collective faces from the very moment they seized on my BB handle. I’m not like the jihadist Californian whose Muslim nickname is al Amriki. As far as I’m concerned, I’m not aligned w/the wrong crowd just because I respectfully suggest that pro-Israeli strategists consider all aspects of the Israeli situation.

      • Webb

        Just keep in mind that whatever else she claims to be, she is a terrorist at the core.

        • hiernonymous

          Why, does employing reason terrify you?

          • Drakken

            Muslim and reason in the same sentence is an oxymoron. It is time to take that tweed jacket off and come down from the high white tower of academia and get your hands and boots dirty. You should know that war is coming and it will be more brutal and bloody than any Crusades on steroids. The muslims don’t need any help from us infidels to dehumanize themselves, every bloody day pictures from all over the muslim world put on display what they are capable of and it will get much worse. You can play at semantics and try to play the devils advocate all you would like, soon it isn’t going to make a difference for no one is going to care what kind of muslim some one is, for soon it won’t matter.

          • hiernonymous

            Not sure why you think that academic understanding and dirty boots are mutually exclusive.

            I see people on “our side” working just as hard to bring about the war you want as any of the crazies on the “other side.” I don’t much care for the fundies of any stripe. The world could stand to have fewer people who are eager to use force to get other people to think like them, and more who are interested in the hard work of cleaning up their own acts.

            “The easy confidence with which I know another man’s religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.”

            ― Mark Twain

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “our side”? The ISIS, Al Qada, Boko Haram, Hamass, Hezbullah, Muslim Brotherhood, Taliban side of “the Religion of Peace” welcomes you.

          • hiernonymous

            Did they deputize you to do the welcoming, or did you just assume that you were a good representative?

          • Drakken

            You know as well as I, that war in the end solves all things and that war is inherent in human nature and will be with us for at least another couple of millennia. Trying to deny these cold stark facts really is unbecoming of you. In todays world, yes academia and dirty boots are mutually exclusive.

          • hiernonymous

            “You know as well as I, that war in the end solves all things …”

            Really? So the fall of Constantinople settled the Muslim-Christian conflict? Or was that the siege of Vienna? The Reconquista?

            Napoleon’s military defeat cemented the rule of absolute monarchs? Versailles marked the end of German militarism? Sure, there are exceptions- Carthage won’t challenge Rome for dominion of the Mediterranean anymore. Oh, wait. Rome’s dominion is not there to be challenged.

            Wars rarely solve problems. In fact, more often than not, they create more problems. Tough talk is easy, but it’s no substitute for trying to actually understand the underlying problems.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Employing reason in Islam is Islamophobia.

          • Americana

            Ergo, neither one of us is Muslim.. Just FYI.

      • Bklyn Farmer

        Whatever the troll is, it is definitely antisemite, bigoted, racist who likes to play dumb when it comes to the threat of Islamist and its Koran justification.

    • hiernonymous

      The conventional Muslim view of jihad distinguishes between “greater jihad” and “lesser jihad.” “Greater jihad” is the struggle to make oneself a better Muslim. “Lesser jihad” is the physical fight in defense of Islam. Most of the Muslims I lived and worked with would not agree that they were under any obligation to use force to spread Islam around the world. Farag’s “The Neglected Duty” was considered revolutionary and heretical precisely because it insisted that violent jihad was the sixth pillar of Islam.

      • mozart

        Obfuscate, divert, confuse, distort and lie. Lie BIG. That is what the three of you do. It is all taqiya. Relying on my historical connections, my education, my military experience I can smell the enemy from afar and you three are it. Front Page Magazine is a Jewish/Israeli site. What exactly is your purpose here? To be against, to demonize, to negate what the writers of FPM publish here. You come here to provoke, to destroy, to do your part in the propaganda Jihad against Israel and against the Jewish people. Your efforts will fail because you do not speak the truth. Go to your Arab/Muslin sites and display your drivel there. I shall not engage you further. I will post the truth, as I know it.

        • hiernonymous

          “What exactly is your purpose here?”

          You should have asked that earlier. I have no single “purpose” here, but what attracted my attention was the persistent attempts to dehumanize all Muslims. It’s one thing to be concerned about the legitimate threats to our security posed by terrorists, and another to become that which one purports to abhor.

          I’d be very surprised indeed if my education and military experience isn’t at least the match of your own, when it comes to knowledge of the Middle East, so you can spare yourself the trouble of arguing from authority. If you have an argument to make, make it. Your post below accusing Americana of being a liar because you were ignorant of the actual meaning of the word was not a good beginning, if you wish to impress with your education.

          “Go to your Arab/Muslin sites and display your drivel there.”

          Sorry, you don’t get to decide where I post. Not sure how you didn’t already understand that.

          “I shall not engage you further. I will post the truth, as I know it.”

          And I shall feel free to respond to those posts, as necessary. Whether you “engage” me or not is a matter of complete indifference to me.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The murderous actions of Muslims in Al Qada, ISIS, Taliban, Hamass, Hezbullah, Muslim Brotherhood, Boko Haram, MSA and the scant denunciations of their murderous rampages by the majority “good” Muslims dehumanize and discredit Islam.

            When Muslims can’t even get along with fellow Muslims, then it’s clear there is a major problem with Islam.

          • Americana

            It’s interesting you’d overlook the many instances where other religions didn’t get along within their own and how various religions fought against other religions. NPR had a segment on Sunday on how the American separation between church and state came about… It was not nearly as clean from Day One as some Americans would have you believe. We went through a lot of trauma before Thomas Jefferson really nailed what the American separation of church and state should mean and why it should be observed.

            The segment was fascinating, not least because it reminded me of the various judicial murders the U.S. committed against faiths it didn’t understand. The early demonization of the Quakers was brought up. Since I’m an ex-Bostonian, it was very poignant to be reminded of the hanging of Mary Dyer on Boston Common for having become a Quaker and leaving her other church.

          • hiernonymous

            “…and the scant denunciations of their murderous rampages…”

            You can’t have looked very hard.

            “When Muslims can’t even get along with fellow Muslims, then it’s clear there is a major problem with Islam.”

            If that’s your standard, well – Ukraine? Georgia? Serb-Croat war? You know that post you wrote about the Brits enduring the devastation of Coventry and London – well, here’s a little secret: Coventry and London were populated mostly by Christians, and were attacked mostly by Christians.

            If your point is that Muslims suffer from internecine conflicts, true enough. If your point is that Muslims are somehow unique in this regard, you’re delusional.

        • Americana

          Journalism should hold up under whatever someone like me — or anyone else, for that matter — can throw at it. If a story doesn’t hold up under scrutiny then it’s not something you should hold up and admire. I’m not here to destroy, produce false propaganda, demonize Israel, demonize Jews (I nearly married one), or do anything else of the kind. If you can produce historical falsehoods I’ve written, be my guest.

          Why would you call this simply a Jewish/Israeli site and that only Jews and Israelis are eligible to post here? As far as I’m concerned, this is an American site designed to spread the word among Americans and the American electorate about what is happening in the Middle East and elsewhere. Since the Palestinian-Israeli contretemps is an issue for the American electorate, I feel it’s my right to comment on everything and anything that has a bearing on the American presence in the Middle East. If Israel eschews any further American economic and military assistance and decides to go it alone in the region, then fine, I won’t bother commenting ever again on this site. However, until such time as Israel does that, it’s incumbent upon me as an American citizen and as a voter to keep abreast of what is happening politically in the region and to advocate for what I see as opportunities for resolution of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

          • Webb

            Oh, hey, the conflict is resolved. You can go away now. The homeless arabs lost and they’ll simply squat in the dirt for the rest of their lives until they die. Problem solved!

  • Lanna

    Pushing for peace with an ideology of anti-semetism, radicalism, hatred, the culture of death, and apostasy shows just how crazy and out of touch the American government really is. Any government that condones Jihad, is no different than they are!

    • Americana

      Since when does our government CONDONE jihad? The U.S. is not all-powerful and cannot control the political decisions of other nation’s populations. The U.S. is not so respected and feared by these jihadis the jihadis fear to commit any reprehensible brutality in remote locations or when warring as part of an army that seems to be the political majority of a country. The jihadis know they commit these crimes in anonymity and that once they vanish into the depths of a country, there’s no way to tie them to the latest church massacre or other sectarian killings. Most of these places where the jihads are being waged are remote enough military forces can’t be dispatched to the sites of these massacres in time to prevent the jihadists from doing their worst.

      • Webb

        You protest too much. Witch.

      • Pete

        Good God, but you make so many excuses.

        Boko Haram is large enough for something as larger a a battalion, regiment or maybe a division as a base to send to Nigeria for 2 or 3 years.

        They would secure a base from which spec ops would operate. they could also be the anvil or hammer in some ops. It would provide the troops with a sense of purpose and good training which is always good for morale and readiness. They could also provide training to the Nigerian military. Also just having sufficient American forces as a backstop will make Nigerian soldiers fight harder. They know that if they get mauled they have a safe place to retreat to or can call up reinforcements.

        It will cost more to let Boko Haram to lay waste to northern Nigeria both to Nigeria and the U.S.

  • Dan Knight

    Great little post: Let me toss in …

    Read your anthropology: The culture of death as we call it is as old as the hills. The ‘flavor’ and ‘nuances’ of the PA’s version may go back to 1948 or 632 or whatever, depending on which aspect you’re discussing, but the idea of hating your neighbor and hoping, planning, and trying to destroy your neighbor utterly go back to the 3d or 4th millennium BC. (At least – probably earlier)

    Re-read Leviticus and Deuteronomy – these books were incredible advances in law responding to atrocities common in the cultures surrounding the nascent Jewish nation. The Palestinians are simply trying to go Back to A Future before the Bible invented the Rule of Law – some 5 or 6 thousand years old.

    Don’t be fooled by the veneer cast over the devil’s work.

    • hiernonymous

      “Re-read Leviticus and Deuteronomy – these books were incredible advances in law responding to atrocities common in the cultures surrounding the nascent Jewish nation.”

      Oddly enough, that’s pretty much exactly what Muslims will tell you about Islam in comparison with the barbaric cultures preceding and surrounding the original Muslims.

      Here’s a piece of trivia for you. The original Muslim women did not wear veils. That was a custom of the Byzantine and Persian Empires that was adopted by their conquerors.

  • Webb

    Ever wonder why Hernio and Americana are so nutty? Here it is: “As he grows old, the narcissist often becomes the target of constant derision and mockery, a sorry sight indeed.” From, I Love To Be Hated – The Masochistic Narcissist http://samvak.tripod.com/narcissistmasochist.html They popped up on FPM to be masochistic tormenters, and in return they get constant derision and mockery, yet keep coming back for more. They have to have it. That’s why so many commenters have identified a mental illness in them. They’re incurable. Now it all makes sense.

  • Zeezus

    I’d think twice about stayin in Palestine.

    • Webb

      Yeah, what is a Palestine anyway? Sounds like a swine hut.