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	<title>Comments on: Turkey: Erdogan vs. Gulen</title>
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		<title>By: Evren Acar</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/joseph-puder/turkey-erdogan-vs-gulen/comment-page-1/#comment-5527444</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evren Acar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2014 00:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The best that can be said of this article is that it is based on half-truths. The writer has totally ignored the fact that the Gulen movement has covertly placed tens of thousands of its members in state institutions from the police force to the judiciary and all the rest in between. It was the Gulen members in these institutions who fabricated fake evidence to put thousands of their opponents behind bars in cooperation with their then ally, the Erdogan government. The worst part was that it&#039;s members in the courts made rulings even when it became clear that the so-called evidence were fake! Calling Gulen a moderate is akin to calling Hitler a democrat for participating in elections until he took full control of power.  The entrenchment of his roots in Turkey, despite the reflexes of the old secular guard, speaks ominously for the rest of the world. Of course, Erdogan&#039;s fascist tyranny, also is a big problem, but while his influence is localized in Turkey, Gulen&#039;s has spread all over the world. Now, even though Gulen&#039;s insidious ways is potentially more dangerous, taking sides in this conflict is akin to taking sides in mafia wars.  
For the writer of this article, he needs to do his homework and duly research a subject, before writing on it. That&#039;s what he owes his readers and not a superficial, misleading article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best that can be said of this article is that it is based on half-truths. The writer has totally ignored the fact that the Gulen movement has covertly placed tens of thousands of its members in state institutions from the police force to the judiciary and all the rest in between. It was the Gulen members in these institutions who fabricated fake evidence to put thousands of their opponents behind bars in cooperation with their then ally, the Erdogan government. The worst part was that it&#8217;s members in the courts made rulings even when it became clear that the so-called evidence were fake! Calling Gulen a moderate is akin to calling Hitler a democrat for participating in elections until he took full control of power.  The entrenchment of his roots in Turkey, despite the reflexes of the old secular guard, speaks ominously for the rest of the world. Of course, Erdogan&#8217;s fascist tyranny, also is a big problem, but while his influence is localized in Turkey, Gulen&#8217;s has spread all over the world. Now, even though Gulen&#8217;s insidious ways is potentially more dangerous, taking sides in this conflict is akin to taking sides in mafia wars.<br />
For the writer of this article, he needs to do his homework and duly research a subject, before writing on it. That&#8217;s what he owes his readers and not a superficial, misleading article.</p>
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		<title>By: billobillo54</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2014 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama has many characteristics similar to Erdogan.  Purging the military of political undesirables (i.e. conservatives and Christians), opposing an independent judiciary, concentrating power in the hands of the executive, black-balling critical journalists, using the executive power to attack and prosecute political opponents, attacking the freedom of speech, religion and the press.  And, above all, both men are Islamicists.  Obama, like Erdogan, demonize the Israelis and support the Muslim Brotherhood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has many characteristics similar to Erdogan.  Purging the military of political undesirables (i.e. conservatives and Christians), opposing an independent judiciary, concentrating power in the hands of the executive, black-balling critical journalists, using the executive power to attack and prosecute political opponents, attacking the freedom of speech, religion and the press.  And, above all, both men are Islamicists.  Obama, like Erdogan, demonize the Israelis and support the Muslim Brotherhood.</p>
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		<title>By: Attila_the_hun</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/joseph-puder/turkey-erdogan-vs-gulen/comment-page-1/#comment-5526338</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Attila_the_hun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2014 01:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why not,  neither of the two is better than the other]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not,  neither of the two is better than the other</p>
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		<title>By: JDinSTL</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/joseph-puder/turkey-erdogan-vs-gulen/comment-page-1/#comment-5526334</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JDinSTL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2014 01:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t throw the baby out with the bathwater.  Erdogan needs to go down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t throw the baby out with the bathwater.  Erdogan needs to go down.</p>
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		<title>By: Attila_the_hun</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/joseph-puder/turkey-erdogan-vs-gulen/comment-page-1/#comment-5526310</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Attila_the_hun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2014 23:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[two sides of the same coin. what could be better than Islamist vs Islamist fight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>two sides of the same coin. what could be better than Islamist vs Islamist fight.</p>
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		<title>By: NAHALKIDES</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/joseph-puder/turkey-erdogan-vs-gulen/comment-page-1/#comment-5526235</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NAHALKIDES]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2014 20:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Notice that none of these actors actually believes in anything like &lt;i&gt;freedom&lt;/i&gt; - not Erdogan the rabid Islamist, not Gulen the less-rabid Islamist, and certainly not the Social Democratic (Socialist) party.  Turkey is already under one-party rule; it&#039;s just that there are separate factions of one big statist party.  There is no one to speak for freedom, and therefore Turkey will continue to slide deeper and deeper into dictatorship whichever sub-party wins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notice that none of these actors actually believes in anything like <i>freedom</i> &#8211; not Erdogan the rabid Islamist, not Gulen the less-rabid Islamist, and certainly not the Social Democratic (Socialist) party.  Turkey is already under one-party rule; it&#8217;s just that there are separate factions of one big statist party.  There is no one to speak for freedom, and therefore Turkey will continue to slide deeper and deeper into dictatorship whichever sub-party wins.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce A. Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce A. Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2014 19:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now now, we wouldn&#039;t want to threaten all that lucrative F-35 work slated for Turkey now, would we? :-/ http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/international/europe/2014/12/13/italy-turkey-win-big-on-f-35-sustainment/20361741/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now now, we wouldn&#8217;t want to threaten all that lucrative F-35 work slated for Turkey now, would we? :-/ <a href="http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/international/europe/2014/12/13/italy-turkey-win-big-on-f-35-sustainment/20361741/" rel="nofollow">http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/international/europe/2014/12/13/italy-turkey-win-big-on-f-35-sustainment/20361741/</a></p>
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		<title>By: gerard jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gerard jackson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is all llies. Didn&#039;t Obama himself say that Erdogan was his good friend. So there you are, a good friend  of Obama&#039;s couldn&#039;t possibly be a dictator. If you don&#039;t believe me just ask those nice Castro brothers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all llies. Didn&#8217;t Obama himself say that Erdogan was his good friend. So there you are, a good friend  of Obama&#8217;s couldn&#8217;t possibly be a dictator. If you don&#8217;t believe me just ask those nice Castro brothers.</p>
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