Gowdy Approaches Benghazi Minefield

gowdyLieutenant Colonel Andrew Wood was the commander of the 16-man Special Forces security detail at the U.S. embassy in Tripoli, Libya, until the State Department ordered him and his men home on August 5, 2012 and never replaced them.

Despite repeated pleas from Ambassador Chris Stevens and his State Department security officers in Tripoli that they remain in Libya, Washington wouldn’t listen.

Colonel Wood remains perplexed at what happened on the night Ambassador Stevens was murdered, and in a recent conversation, recalled a similar event in June 2012 when the British ambassador came under RPG attack while visiting Benghazi.

“When I went to help the British ambassador, we got to the scene faster than the CIA team did on September 11. I went over to the CIA Annex, waited for the 18 Delta medic to grab his kit, then left immediately,” he told me.

“Why would they say ‘get over there as quick as you can’ when the British ambassador gets attacked, and say ‘wait’ when it’s our own ambassador?” he wondered.

And yet, that’s the behavior former deputy CIA Director Mike Morell told the House intelligence committee was “a very prudent decision.”

Their report was welcomed by the national media as the final nail in the coffin of Republican-led Congressional investigations.

Many conservatives have been pushing for Rep. Trey Gowdy (R, SC) to play his cards, even as his investigators continue to conduct their probe far from the media spotlight.

The Washington Post has already proclaimed Gowdy’s investigation “superfluous,” and last week blasted “unfounded conspiracy theories” propounded by Republicans for distracting from the “big mistake in Libya policy… [which] was President Obama’s refusal to support the new government’s attempt to build security after he helped topple the nation’s longtime dictator.”

In Gruberesque fashion, the Post failed to mention that Ambassador Stephens was still talking to Prime Minister candidates for the “new government” on the day he was brutally murdered, as his Diary shows.

But hey, what difference do the facts make when there’s a presidential campaign afoot? The Post and other members of the Hillary Clinton support society (aka the national media) have demonstrated they will spare no ink, tar, or feathers to besmirch anyone who gets close to the truth, and will pass up no opportunity to claim this investigation over before it’s even begun.

That’s why Gowdy must (and is) treading carefully as he navigates the labyrinthine minefield constructed by partisan hacks and entrenched bureaucrats to hide the truth.

One of the first things Gowdy did was to hire a three-star U.S. Army general as his chief counsel. Lieutenant General Dana Chipman had just stepped down as the Judge Advocate General (JAG) for the United States Army, where in his own words he had led “a legal enterprise consisting of 5,000 personnel in 600 offices in 20 countries.”

Prior to that, General Chipman was the chief lawyer for U.S. Central Command and U.S. Special Operations Command, stepping into that hot seat in June 2003 just as U.S. forces switched from liberators to occupiers in Iraq.

The three stars on Chipman’s shoulderboards give him the authority to candidly question anyone in the military chain of command that night without concerns more junior officers might have about disputing the wisdom of an order from on high.

Many in the military have been asking why reinforcements weren’t flown in from Croatia, where a fifty-man U.S. Army counter-terrorism/hostage-rescue unit known as C-110 was on a military training mission.

C-110 was the Commanders In-Extremis Force (CIF) for European Command, a rapid reaction force capable of getting men and equipment into their C-130s to respond to a crisis in somewhere between two to six hours.

Because C-110 was slated to become the Africom CIF on October 1, Africom commanders were intimately aware of its capabilities, and its current position – roughly two hours flight time from Benghazi. But instead of flying directly to Benghazi, C-110 was told to stage en route at Sigonella Naval Air Station in Sicily, Italy, where it stopped.

The diversion order was given from the Pentagon, not by Africom headquarters in Stuttgart. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Gen. Martin Dempsey, has claimed in Congressional testimony that the earliest C-110 could have left Croatia was 6 AM the morning of September 12th – a statement disputed by members of the unit who have spoken anonymously to the media.

Were the commanders of this powerful hostage-rescue unit champing at the bit but told to stand down? If so, by who? And why?

We know the official reasons why C-110 was not sent. Africom commander General Carter Ham and his subordinates have all testified that in the “fog of war” they believed they were facing a situation similar to the 1979 Tehran hostage crisis and needed more time to gather intelligence and plan a hostage rescue operation.

But General Ham also told Rep. Jason Chaffetz, who is slated to succeed Rep. Darrell Issa as chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform committee, that he never sent boots onto the ground in Benghazi because the State Department “never asked.”

That explanation was buttressed by testimony from Brigadier General Robert Lovell, the Africom deputy director for intelligence (J2), this past May, where he explained that in the spirit of “expeditionary” diplomacy – a favorite Hillary Clinton term – the military was “waiting for a request for assistance from the State Department” before moving reinforcements into Libya.

The answer to this question could help determine who bears the responsibility for leaving brave four men to die that night.

Did the desire to demonstrate that Obama was “not Bush” drive the administration to abandon any recourse to military action? We know that Hillary Clinton was so obsessed by not deploying boots on the ground in Libya that she ordered Colonel Wood and his 16-man Special Forces unit guarding Ambassador Stevens to never appear in public in uniform, not even their boots, until her underlings told them to leave Libya on August 5, 2012 altogether.

We also know that Mrs. Clinton issued two very specific stand-down orders on the night of September 11, 2012:

• She refused to convene the counterterrorism Security Group (CSG), the only structured, experienced interagency reaction team that could have decided which resources of the government were available for immediate deployment, despite pleas from a top counter-terrorism advisor, Mark Thompson.

• She refused to activate the State Department-led Foreign Emergency “Support Team (FEST), an extraordinary operational unit whose sole purpose was to rescue U.S. diplomats under attack.

Her entire effort that night and ever since has been to draw as little attention as possible to U.S. government activities in Benghazi. What was she trying to hide?

Deeper in the Benghazi labyrinth lies the true mission of the CIA Annex, whose security team ultimately came to the rescue of the besieged diplomats after the CIA Chief of Base in Benghazi told them to “stand down” for a fatal twenty-one minutes – longer than Lt.Col. Andy Wood had to wait for his 18 Delta medic before aiding the British ambassador three months earlier.

In the House intelligence committee report, the cause of recent gloating by Hillary Clinton’s media fans, the discussion of the CIA’s mission in Benghazi is largely redacted, with Members of Congress warned that they are not cleared to know what the CIA was doing there.

The Africom Chief of Operations, Rear Admiral Richard Landolt, told Congressional investigators that he and his fellow Africom commanders “were not aware” of the CIA Annex until the night it was under attack– an extraordinary admission. “I guess it was in their interest to keep it to as few people as necessary,” he told me.

Now, it is just possible that the folks at the CIA Annex were baking brownies for the local Islamic scouts. Or it is possible that they were engaged in activities the administration still finds too embarrassing – or politically too dangerous – to discuss, such as overseeing an arms transfer operation to the Syrian rebels being conducted by “liaison services.”

The American people deserve answers that only Gowdy and his committee are now in a position to provide.

-          Was Congress fully and properly briefed on the activities of the CIA in Benghazi? Was the CIA operating under Presidential findings for the Global War on Terror signed by President George W. Bush? Or more recent presidential findings signed by President Obama?

-          What was the status of the State Department’s program to collect surface-to-air missiles (MANPADS) “missing” from Qaddafi’s arsenal, and what role was the CIA Annex assigned to that program?

-          After Ambassador Stevens and his Country team were briefed on Iran’s support for Ansar al-Sharia in June 2012, how many intelligence reports did the CIA or other agencies file warning about the activities of the Iranian Special Forces (Quds Force) officers who were on the ground in Benghazi?

-          Was the State Department concerned that exposing Iran’s role in the Benghazi attacks would sabotage ongoing nuclear negotiations?

-          Who specifically carried out the precision mortar attack that killed CIA security officers Glen Doherty and Ty Woods and severely wounded Mark Geiss and State Department security officer David Ubben? Where were those individuals trained and by whom?

-          Where is the paper trail documenting the initial State Department statement issued at 10:08 pm on the night of September 11, 2012, blaming the attacks on a Youtube video, which was contrary to all reporting from U.S. embassy and CIA sources on the ground?

Until now, the State Department and the CIA have swept all of these questions aside or given answers aimed at blaming the dead, and the sympathetic headline in the national media went something like this: Benghazi “sheep” committed suicide, wolf declares.

It’s time for the truth. Trey Gowdy, press on!

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  • Bamaguje

    Hmm… Iran was involved in the Benghazi attack on America, and Obama is facilitating their nuclear weapons program with endless “negotiations.”

    • dwayne roberson

      The President is perfectly consistent. If the policy is not in the United States’ economic and national security best interests…then he is all in.

    • NJK

      Oh, dear God. I’m sick. And John Boehner finances all of his crimes against the Constitution. They should all be executed.

  • dwayne roberson

    In reality none of this adds up to the administration’s explanations. The video rouse fits the Gruber template that we would all be “stupid” enough to believe it. It suggests they routinely are successful with similar lying. I am convinced there is enough rancid agenda here to convince America that Democrats are incapable of responsible diplomacy and stewardship of American power. God speed Mr. Gowdy.

    • rlqretired

      Dwayne – Since the Republicans agreed in the very beginning they would not challenge Obama on his constitutional eligibility, or forged identifying documents, they would never seriously challenge him on anything he chooses to do.

      • phoebeintheforest

        Sadly, that is a very true statement.

      • Erudite Mavin

        The all or nothing pures who sat at home election day or voted third party are the ones who have never challenged Obama especially enabling his presidency

        • rlqretired

          Mavin – Many of these folks you refer to are simply fed up voting for Republicans that always turn out to be cowards and refuse to use the powers the founders gave them to control such criminal tyrants as Obama and Holder. In effect, our establishment leadership are complicit treasonous cowards.

          • Erudite Mavin

            You need to understand the process.
            the Republicans have passed and sent to the senate 340 bills. Harry Reid and the Democrat majority Senate have sat on them.
            The White House is Democrat, the Senate is Democrat, the MSM is Democrat, the Public Schools are lead by Democrats, Universities are lead by Radical Left
            The Republicans who have no control over MSM or education, or the White House or the Senate you believe are supposed to do magic?
            The pures prefer Obama over a Republican and now have the nerve to whine.
            Then there are the talking heads who dog whistle through out their programs to psych up the listeners
            who sat at home or voted third party and in he end the talking heads are making millions off of the disaster they and Obama are creating.

          • rlqretired

            Mavin – Don’t give me this crap the Republicans have no power.
            Our Republicans in congress do not act because the public does not stand up and demand it because we are the complicit sheep following these politically correct treasonous cowards.
            Impeachment can be successful if congress first attacks this usurper at his Achilles Heal!!!
            Impeachment will be successful when the media and/or congress carries out its constitutional duty to investigate and exposes the truth about just who this guy really is and why his birth certificate and Selective Service Registration card are both forgeries and using a Social Security number that was issued to someone else that was born in 1890, as Sheriff Joe Arpaio has found probable cause to believe and documented the evidence for all to see.

            The completion of Sheriff Arpaio’s work must be the
            mandatory first step for any impeachment special prosecutor appointed by the House. Use the explosive results of this investigation to educate the media of
            this criminal fraud and properly inform the public. The worldwide media coverage will be so great it will force our cover-up media to adequately report on this crime and so inform the STUPID public, as Professor Gruber calls us.

            After which the public will no longer be stupid and will
            demand congress remove this Communist mentored Muslim usurper from office for his 6 years of unconstitutional acts and his criminal document fraud.

          • Erudite Mavin

            The Democrat’s wet dream is impeachment. A great distraction to what is going on around the world along with Obama’s agendas not to mention a distraction during the campaigning in 2015.
            This would not be over until after 20116.
            This is not a 1 hour TV program.
            This is why I posted away during the 2008 and 2012 election to not vote for Obama and by sitting home or voting third party, you are enabling Obama’s presidency.
            Now these people whine.
            I also have a clue what is going on re amnesty. I am sitting 15miles north from the largest and busiest border crossing in the world, San Diego – Tijuana.

          • rlqretired

            Mavin – You speak and act as a typical establishment RINO. You refuse to address the evidence of criminal document fraud that will assure the removal of Obama and much of the complicit Democrat leadership as well. You and your kind choose to remain willfully ignorant and lick Obama’s butt for another 2 years.

          • Erudite Mavin

            It is the Libertarians and the all or nothing crowd who have their head up Obama’s a** as they are the ones who enabled Obama’s presidency.
            The RINOs are those who are Rand Paul and his ilk.
            They call themselves Republican but are in fact libertarians and don’t have the balls to run as one because they know enough people have their neo left number

          • rlqretired

            Lick on Mavin. You must enjoy the taste of eating Obama’s feces. If you can’t respond with an intelligent debunking of Sheriff Arpaio’s documented probable cause that Obama’s identifying document are all forgeries you are a waste of time. Lick away and I hope you are really enjoying the taste.

          • Erudite Mavin

            Your adolescent wishes of wanting to taste is your problem with your sexual rant. Your needs are showing Soros Troll

          • rlqretired

            If you can’t respond with an intelligent debunking of Sheriff Arpaio’s documented probable cause that Obama’s identifying document are all forgeries you are a waste of time. Your willful ignorance is showing.

          • b_paolucci

            Rand Paul and his father are libertarians, not RINOs.

          • Erudite Mavin

            You proved my point. they are Libertarians who ran as Republicans to get elected.
            Republicans In Name Only because they are Libertarians

          • b_paolucci

            You need to look up the definitions of these terms. Let me help you. A Libertarian is someone who advocates for the least possible government interference with life and liberty they have an isolationist policy position. A Conservative is less to the right than a Libertarian and a Republican is less to the right than a Conservative. A RINO is a Republican in Name Only = they vote democrat more often than not.

          • Erudite Mavin

            and when you read the libertarian sites especially Ron Paul’s, they are Neo Left on National Security, and all the rest of the left wing propaganda you see on the Left wing sites.

          • b_paolucci

            Two prominent Libertarians = Ron Paul and Glenn Beck.
            Glenn Beck is not neo Left. Ron Paul appears to be neo left because, as I said previously, he’s an isolationist. That means they want America to stay out of world affairs and not get involved in other nation’s wars. It doesn’t mean they are traitors. John Stossel, who has a show on Fox Business that repeats on Fox News is also a Libertarian. Check him out. In a perfect world, a Libertarian is a good thing to be. But this is not a perfect world, nor can being a Libertarian make it so.

          • b_paolucci

            I’d love to see Obama impeached & brought up on charges of treason. Both can be easily proved. But Republicans are afraid – he’s black & this is the reason blacks get away with looting, rioting and arson as well as murder everywhere.

          • rlqretired

            The Obama problem is much more than his being black. Obama is the greatest breach of our national security since this country was founded as a Republic based upon the principles of Christianity and every identifying document he has ever presented to prove he is even a citizen of the USA has been found by Sheriff Arpaio to contain evidence that probable cause exists they are forgeries and is using a Social Security number that was issued to someone else. Obama is a total criminal fraud and an agent of foreign allegiance.

            Obama’s allegiance lies not with the USA but with the Muslim Brotherhood and their Islamic goals of ultimate world domination by Islam. Look at his record over the past 6 years. Every decision he has ever made dealing
            with the Middle East has come out to benefit of the Muslim Brotherhood.

            If the patriots of this Republic would unite and demand this Treasonous Coward John Boehner exercise his impeachment investigative powers and appoint special prosecutor to complete the Arpaio investigation we could rid ourselves of this foreign agent and about half of the corrupt Democrat leadership as well. Otherwise, Obama and his useful idiot John Boehner will
            succeed.

          • b_paolucci

            Agree 100% – but that still doesn’t get Obama impeached and tried for treason.

          • rlqretired

            And it never will unless and until the patriots of this
            country unite on this plan of attack and demand Boehner and his treasonous Republican leaders carry out the investigative powers the founders gave them to
            investigate and put forth the truth when confronted with a criminal fraud occupying our Whitehouse, along with a corrupt and complicit attorney general that protects him.

            No act of treason could be more damaging to our Republic than having a man whose allegiance is highly questionable, whose actions always wind up favoring our enemies and whose identity papers are all forgeries and who has demonstrated for the past 6 years that he has no respect for our Constitution, nor Congress, nor our Rule of Law.

            Unfortunately, Gruber was correct for the most part when he said the public was stupid but let me add the fact that in this particular case many know the truth already but are simply unwilling to stand up and fight.
            These folks have simply surrendered already.

            The truth alone, properly exposed by a House appointed special prosecutor, would prevail and the public would no longer be stupid and impeachment or criminal prosecution of both of these criminals could succeed.

          • b_paolucci

            Voter fraud and 3rd party votes got us Obama in 2008 and that has been proven. More voter fraud came in 2012. Republicans do not do a damn thing about it because years ago, they did the same thing.

          • Erudite Mavin

            and you think Republicans have not drilled into this.
            Most of this fraud took place in Africal American Democrat neighborhoods.
            Even your teaparty could do nothing.
            It is the all or nothings who sat at home or voted third party who gave us Obama

          • b_paolucci

            I know Republicans did little to nothing about it. I also know that without whites voting for Obama we would not be in the mess we’re in now AND, best news yet, those idiot white voters are thoroughly disenchanted with Obama – much like Dinkins here in NYC there will not be another black president any time soon. Per polls Obama has set back race relations dramatically.

          • AndRebecca

            So how do you feel about Ted Cruz? Is he standing up good enough for you? And Gowdy? You know, there are records of who voted in each election and what party they belong to. Libertarians whine and complain about Republicans. The Paulbots try to take over the party. But a very small percentage actually go to the polls unless they are trying to spoil an election for a Republican. They might as well be Democrats.

          • rlqretired

            AndRebecca – You speak and act as a typical establishment RINO. You refuse to address the evidence of criminal document fraud that will assure the removal of Obama and much of the complicit Democrat leadership as well. You and your kind choose to remain willfully ignorant and lick Obama’s butt for another 2 years. For your information, I have been a Republican since 1964 when I voted for Goldwater and voted accordingly ever since. Cruz and Gowdy are great patriots. They have the testicular fortitude it takes to overcome the evil that Obama represents.

          • AndRebecca

            Well I guess we all hear and see things differently. I certainly did not ask you about supporting Cruz and Gowdy because I’m a RINO. You have “typical establishment RINO” on your mind. At least you do have a political opinion, even if it is shallow. That is something.

          • rlqretired

            AndRebecca – Your willful ignorance and cowardice is showing. Can you not address and debunk any of Sheriff Arpaio’s documented evidence of probable cause Obama’s identifying documents are all forgeries?? If not you are a waste of time. Lick on and enjoy the taste.

          • AndRebecca

            Earth to rlqr, I never even mentioned Arpaio. You are one weirdo.

          • rlqretired

            AndRebecca – Your willful ignorance and cowardice is still showing. Can you not address and debunk any of Sheriff Arpaio’s documented evidence of probable cause Obama’s identifying documents are all forgeries?? If not you are a waste of time. Lick on and enjoy the taste.

          • AndRebecca

            You have the lamest comments I have ever seen. Let me be the first to tell you, you’re getting senile.

          • rlqretired

            You can lead a sick or willfully ignorant mule
            to water but you cannot force it to drink.

            http://wheresobamasbirthcertificate.com/#Top

            For you, AndRebecca, I offer a quote from Dietrich
            Bonhoeffer: “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.” You are a waste of my time.

          • AndRebecca

            For you Mr. Senile, these are the craziest comments I have ever read, not because of the comments themselves, but your misuse of them. You give old people a bad name.

          • b_paolucci

            We have the Congress and will have the White House in 2016 – we’re not stupid, we were impotent, but not anymore.

          • rlqretired

            We won the House in 2010 and the Senate in 2014 not because of anything our Republican leadership did but because we are desperate for SOMEONE to stand up and stop Obama in his transformation of our Republic into something more in line with his Communist mentored Islamic heritage and the goals of the Muslim Brotherhood. If you think you are going to get this from the Obama loving John Boehner or Mitch McConnell you are fooling yourself. My God, it is obvious to anyone willing open his eyes, to see these people want amnesty for our illegal alien population just as bad as Obama and will do nothing serious to stop him.

          • b_paolucci

            while what you state is true – BUT republicans could have impeached Obama at virtually any time after he took office – he’s been overreaching almost from day one.

          • b_paolucci

            That’s why we increased the number of members in the House and took back the Senate! Now our problem is getting the House to vote for a different speaker!

      • Crystallite

        The Repubs probably assumed that giving Barry a free pass eligibility-wise would be a fair proposition in exchange for bestowing NBC status on McCain, who was born in a Panamanian hospital outside a US Navy Base in the Panama Canal Zone while his parents were serving in the military there. Little did they know that Barry would prove to be a very anti-American POTUS whose goal was to take down this country a few pegs, including destroying its sovereign status.

        • Bitter Clinger

          OK. So how do you explain the Democrats giving The Prophet Obama a free pass? Pelosi (as head of the Democrat Party in 2008) certified that Obama was their nominee. NOT that he was constitutionally eligible. They had Hillary in the bag and yet they took this narcissistic community organizer instead.

          • b_paolucci

            Hillary would not have won – that’s still true today. She carries too much baggage and far too many in the body bag count both she and her husband are responsible for.
            Google Hillary Clinton body bag and same for Bill.

          • b_paolucci

            Google ‘Democratic Socialist Party” and look for their membership – you will find Hillary, Pelosi and Obama are members and so many more.

        • rlqretired

          Crystallite – I knew what he was because I inquired into his background. They chose to be willfully ignorant and politically correct and remain locked into that position today.

        • Ray Tort

          Chrystallite: Unlike McCain’s parents, Obama’s mother had not been a resident of the US for a sufficient time after reaching the age of 18 to pass on citizenship to her son if he were born outside the US.
          Regardless of where born, Obama’s failure to declare allegiance to the US after returning to the US before reaching the age of 22, makes him an Indonesian illegal alien.
          Rev. Wright assured him at the age of 28 that he could remain a Muslim and still attend Wright’s anti-American rants. He was never confirmed a Christian. He remains a Muslim.

          • Minnie Pearl

            Actually, if baby Barack was not born in Hawaii as stated, his eligibility problem would be that he was born four months shy of his mother’s 19 birthday (she would need 5 years after her 14th birthday.) This is/was the law for his year of birth:

            “Citizenship through Parents: ‘One parent is a U.S. citizen at the time of birth and the birthdate is before November 14, 1986 but after October 10, 1952″

            “The parents are married at the time of birth and the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. or its territories for a period of at least ten years at some time in his or her life prior to the birth, at least five of
            which were after his or her 14th birthday.” http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-parents

            So, assuming he was born in Hawaii, or assuming he was not born in Hawaii but unable to prove a damned thing, he qualifies as a natural born citizen. One is either a naturalized citizen or natural born citizen. He was not natualized; he was therefore a citizen at birth. There is no in-between category of citizen. If one could prove he wasn’t born in the US, he’d have a definite problem since his birth falls 4 months shy of the 5 years required after his mother turned 14. That said, he could be born on Uranus and be confirmed as a space alien and he’d never be removed from office based on eligibility. We’re stuck with him for the duration unless repubs shock the heck out of us.

          • ricoC

            Actually, according to Happersett v Minor (1890) One must be born to TWO U.S. citizens in order to be considered ‘natural born’. The same was indicated in a letter from John Jay to George Washington. Unfortunately, in their infinite wisdom, the founders failed to clearly define ‘natural born’ in the Constitution.
            If they had, however, Obama would have just admitted who his real father was–Frank Marshal Wright.

          • AgntOrngVctm

            Frank Marshal Davis.

          • Dave B.

            You know, when you can’t even correctly identify the case, there’s a good chance you don’t know what the heck it says either. There’s NO exclusive definition of “natural born citizen” in Minor v. Happersett. In fact, Chief Justice Waite conflates native citizenship– acquired by birth in the United States– with natural born citizenship and presidential eligibility, as opposed to naturalized citizenship, acquired under Congress’s naturalization power. President Obama is by no rational understanding of the term a naturalized citizen.

          • b_paolucci

            Natural born citizen means you were born here in America. Naturalized citizen is someone who becomes a citizen but was born outside of America. That’s it. Check back in historical documents where its well defined. Obama was not born in America, is not the child of two natural born Americans and while the woman purported to be his mother was born in America, she was out of the country so long (over 5 years) & that means Obama does not get American citizenship.

          • Dave B.

            And you were starting out so well there.
            When, exactly, was Obama’s mother “out of the country”?

          • b_paolucci

            Do your homework before you post! Its public knowledge. You can google it,

          • Dave B.

            I’m familiar with the facts. I’m not asking you about facts– I’m asking about what YOU believe. That has nothing to do with the facts.

          • b_paolucci

            Two natural born Americans. There’s a difference.

          • phoebeintheforest

            I’m thinking that Obama is technically an American citizen (one who was born in the Seattle area as Stanley Ann was enrolled and taking classes at the University of Washington 3 weeks after his birth). HOWEVER, the real situation of his citizenship is not clear…Obama really does fit the “in-between category of citizen”.

            Stating the obvious, Obama’s background is extremely murky. If an American travels with a passport from another country…say Indonesia…does that not call into question his loyalty to America?

            He was adopted by an Indonesian man and attended Indonesian schools that required students be citizens of Indonesia.

            American men, when they turn 18, are required by law to register for the draft. There are serious repercussions to ignoring this law, such as not being able to receive federally funded student loans. So why did Obama register for the draft DECADES after he was legally required to? Was it because Obama didn’t think he was an American citizen?

            Obama definitely fits the definition of an “in-between” American citizen.

          • Dave B.

            On what do you base your claim that Obama “was adopted by an Indonesian man and attended Indonesian schools that required students be citizens of Indonesia”? Why would you think he traveled “with a passport from another country…say Indonesia”?

            President Obama registered for the draft on July 29, 1980– the second day he was allowed to do so by law. The effective date of his registration was September 4, 1980. I don’t recall exactly what day I registered on, but it was on one of the six days beginning Monday, July 21, 1980, as allowed by law. The effective date of my own registration was August 8, 1980.

          • phoebeintheforest

            Obama’s registration card at Indonesia’s Franziskus Assisi school shows that Obama was registered as Barry Soetoro (Stanley Ann’s husband’s last name). On the same card Barry Soetoro is listed as Muslim, an Indonesian citizen (!), born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii.

            Also, I’ve read that on his half-sister’s Facebook account, she wrote something to the effect that just because y father adopted Barry doesn’t take away his American citizenship. So it would seem that Maya Soetoro believes Barry/Obama had been adopted by her father.

            Of course, none of the above absolutely proves that Barry aka Obama was ever adopted by Lolo Soetoro, but it certainly gives some credence to it!

            You have to admit, no president has ever, ever had a background as murky as Obama’s. And if intellectually honest, you must admit if Bush had had a fraction of this weirdo family background, Libs would have been on it like white on rice.

          • Dave B.

            So you’ve got a school registration form and…a Facebook posting of something “to the effect” of something somebody may have thought sometime– or “So it would seem,” anyway. That’s IT?

            You didn’t address a major point of my question– on what do you base your claim that the schools Obama attended “required students be citizens of Indonesia”? How would Obama have become a citizen of Indonesia? And again, why would you think he traveled “with a passport from another country…say Indonesia”?

          • b_paolucci

            EXACTLY!

          • Dave B.

            There’s never, ever been a requirement that a parent has “been a resident of the US for a sufficient time after reaching the age of 18 to pass on citizenship.”

            There was NO requirement that Obama “declare allegiance to the US after returning to the US before reaching the age of 22,” or do anything else at all, to retain his US citizenship. He was never a citizen of Indonesia.

            That “Muslim” nonsense is irrelevant gossip.

            Your claim about Obama’s “selective service application” is just plain silly. On what, exactly, is that claim based?

            Feel free to NAME those “Over 20 document forgery experts.”

            The claim that “His SSN is that of a Connecticut resident born before 1890″ is a goofy mishmash of poor investigative methods and outright fabrication.

        • ca1

          crystalite… you don’t seriously believe that do you????

          • b_paolucci

            It’s very possible. His mother posed for nude pictures of herself for Wright. It may well be true that the woman he claims is his mother isn’t too.

          • Dave B.

            You can’t even get that despicable birther lie straight.

        • b_paolucci

          McCAin was vetted, being born to American parents = he’s a citizen – unlike Obama!

          • AgntOrngVctm

            As was Ted Cruz. Yea!

          • Dave B.

            McCain and Obama were vetted by the same process.

          • b_paolucci

            Only McCain was vetted – the Senate does the vetting and Pelosi wanted to eliminate McCain but she didn’t want Obama eliminated or any proof of his not being an American citizen to surface. If you think otherwise, ask yourself why Brennan (now head of the CIA) had to confiscate all of Obama’s records from his colleges, hospital where he was born (the birth certificate they provided was proven false over and over) and more. None of his documentation showing where he was born is available. But his Catholic school record from Indonesia have been made public. Note too that his financial aide records – which are supposed to be available for scrutiny/audit are protected – reason = he received aide as a foreign student and he can’t have everyone know the truth.

          • Dave B.

            Good grief, what a goofy mess.
            While the Senate is responsible, along with the House, for certifying the votes of the Electoral College and ruling on the qualifications of the president-elect, the Senate has no procedure for vetting candidates. McCain was no more vetted by the Senate than Obama was– what the Senate DID do was pass a non-binding resolution in support of Senator McCain’s eligibility, in a sentimental gesture extended as a courtesy to a colleague.
            Obama’s records weren’t “confiscated.” That’s just plain silly.
            President Obama’s birth certificate has been officially verified as accurate and authentic by the state agency responsible for Hawaii’s vital records. Nobody claiming the birth certificate is “false” has ever even so much as been in the same room with it.
            Upon what do you base your claim that Obama’s “financial aide records” are “supposed to be available for scrutiny/audit,” and that he “received aide as a foreign student”?

          • b_paolucci

            dream on!

          • Dave B.

            I’m not the one “dreaming” here. Are you unable to answer the question I asked?

        • Dave B.

          The claim that Senator McCain “was born in a Panamanian hospital outside a US Navy Base” is erroneous, and based on a fake birth certificate provided by known– make that notorious– con man Donald Lamb, which was never authenticated by anybody but Donald Lamb.

          Senator McCain was born at the small naval hospital at Coco Solo.

    • Crystallite

      You’ll notice how the dog and pony show that is Ferguson has ramped up and taken Gruber off the front page. The regime is so good at creating diversions.

      • b_paolucci

        True but that’s not why they ramped up Ferguson. Riots in the streets allow for marshal law and marshal law will allow Obama to disarm the public – once that happens, its all over.

    • ca1

      gruber template… thanks to gruber and his need to be the smartest guy in the room… we’re all familiar w/what that term means… good job mentioning it dwayne!

  • SoCalMike

    Obama and Hillary had Ambassador Stevens in charge of transferring weapons to Syria from Libya.
    These weapons were sent to the same Syrian “rebels” that over ran our allies in Iraq. Remember these “rebels” John McCain and Chris Christie showed up for photo ops.
    Even at this point with 100% hindsight, these doltish morons still want to triple down on stupid and continue to arm the same animals who murdered our people both in Benghazi and Iraq.
    Obama, Hillary, John McCain, John Kerry and Jen Psaki all deserve horse whippings.
    We already know what happened.
    Repubes find safety in investigations.
    While they are busy investigating “gathering facts” they don’t have to be bothered getting nasty with Democrats and accusing them of betrayal and selling out our own people and allies.

    • Crystallite

      ISIS was created from a segment of these “rebels” who originally attacked in Libya and then in Syria and Iraq. There are 20,000 MANPADS on the loose in the Middle East thanks to Barry and Hillary failing to secure Gadafi’s weapons stash. These MANPADS are capable of taking down commercial aircraft at close range. There have been at least 18 shoot-downs of US military aircraft in Afghanistan with all aboard killed since the MANPADS were taken, whereas prior to the Libyan War there were none.

  • Dino D’Marais
    • Scar

      Looks like an interesting site. Read the article that talks about Sharyl Attkisson’s new book, which I ordered the other day. Thanks for posting the link.

  • cree

    The Benghazi four speaking from the grave: you don’t want Hillary to be a Commander in Chief. Roger that.

  • Debbie G

    I have a terrible feeling that this administration will find a way to neutralize
    Rep. Gowdy’s investigation. And the mainstream media shills will join in by calling it sour grapes.

    • Bitter Clinger

      Goes without saying. It will be “old news, Dude”.

    • b_paolucci

      Gowdy is pretty tough and not at all afraid of Obama and his henchmen.
      Have faith.

  • Rebel

    Thanks Mr. Timmerman.. You pose great questions that still need to be answered.. I join my voice to yours in urging Trey Gowdy to Press On!

    • Americana

      The relevant questions have been answered. What’s more, Mr. Timmerman knows they’ve been answered.

      • AgntOrngVctm

        They need to be answered and read aloud to the press in a press conference. The word “Treason” needs to be uttered to the press in the hearing of the American people. When — not if — the press leaps to Obama’s defense, they need to be called on it. They need to be reminded of their Constitutional duty and scolded in a press conference for shirking it..

        • Americana

          There may be more treason involved in providing inaccurate timelines in conjunction w/inaccurate stories, in conjunction w/the ridiculous propagation of conspiracy theories, and in the decision to promote surreality in evaluation of facts. There definitely seem to be conspiracies, but these conspiracies lie fully exposed in the awkwardly phrased lies that are being purposely perpetuated. It’s easy to understand how confused voters might be about the facts of Benghazi if their news sources aren’t credible.

  • hrwolfe

    The author of this column, Kenneth R. Timmerman’s book “Shadow Warriors” is a real eye opener to just how degraded our entire Bureaucracies are. They are filled with people out to serve a notion not the Nation.

  • ConradCA

    Tyrant Obama the Liar supposedly ordered that everything possible be done to save our people in Benghazi, yet nothing was done. Either he was lying or someone disobeyed his orders and committed treason in time of war.

    Hillary says that she wasn’t told about the Abassador’s pleas for security in lawless Libya. Either she is lying or someone is guilty of murder by depraved indifference.

    Goudy should assume that Tyrant Obama the Liar and Hillary are telling the truth and determine who committed these crimes.

    • Crystallite

      Acting Ambassador to Libya Greg Hicks, who assumed the reins after Stevens was reported missing, testified under oath that he spoke with Hillary via phone and told her there was no revolt due to a video. That this was an attack against the compound. She told him to sit by the phone; that she would get back to him. Allegedly, she never did. He has since claimed that his diplomatic career has been destroyed because he spoke out.

  • Skyking239

    Its simple and Gowdy is getting closer to the real story. CIA wanted nothing to do with shipping arms to the Syrian rebels (Now ISIS). The State Department took up the reigns and ran the shipping operations until Vlad Putin threatened Obama in the summer of 2012. Rubbing the POTUS’s nose in the dirt where he had drawn a line. When State started backing out of the deal Al Qaeda became enraged when they were told the next shipment of arms from Benghazi would not be sent on the Libyan cargo ship Al Entisar. The shipments of SA-7 and other weapons are far worse than the Iran-Contra affair. Within an hour of ambassador Stevens confirming the shipment cancellation to the Turkish ambassador the attack commenced. Omama and Hillary knew the real reason for the attack and now so does Congressman Gowdy.

    • ca1

      interesting timeline scenario…i’m pining a lot of hope on gowdy to remain true to the american people who MUST have the facts! no more fantasy spun out of the wh and complicit media and politicians!

    • AgntOrngVctm

      Considering the fact that there was nothing to the Iran-Contra affair, being worse that that is not a big stretch.
      Only a Liberal (Democrat or Libertarian) would compare the two.
      Seems a shame to reduce your otherwise insightful post to that.

  • Rosanna

    Hopefully the whole story comes out before the next election and not after.

    • AgntOrngVctm

      If after, it won’t come out at all.

  • Texas Patriot

    The reason Gowdy should approach Benghazi like a minefield is that it represents in stark relief the failures of multiple American administrations to comprehend and respond effectively to the slowly erupting volcano of Islamic Jihad. What should have been a wake up call for everyone occurred on September 11, 2012 when Muslim demonstrators worldwide chanted “Obama, Obama, We’re All Osama” as our diplomats were assassinated by Islamist rebels we had assisted in overthrowing Muammar Gaddafi. But it wasn’t.

    Even to this day, the policy of some in Washington is to find “friendly” rebel groups to support in overthrowing Bashar Assad. So what is Gowdy supposed to do, ignore all the evidence of a complete failure to recognize a clear and immediate threat to the United States in the vain hope that he can please the Republican political dinosaurs who can see no further than their next check from Middle Eastern oil barons? I think not.

    Trey Gowdy is a talented lawyer who represents the new face of Conservative politics in America, and he would be well advised to decline the blinders handed him by the Republican “elite” of John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, and Lindsay Graham. The enemy we face in the form of a growing worldwide bonfire of Islamic Jihad is far more serious and far more dangerous than any of those fine gentlemen can remotely comprehend.

    • ca1

      well stated tex…..

      • Texas Patriot

        Thanks!

  • Jnash

    How many investigations now? How much taxpayer money wasted? I see these “unanswered questions” are getting more and more specific…you are digging deep because you are desperate to find something and desperate to be right

  • Paul J. Turner

    It was one of these MANPADS that took out “Extortion 17″ which held a large number of Seal Team 6…. does this make you ask any question about your government?

  • DontMessWithAmerica

    Let us all pray that Gowdy will bull through. It would be wonderful if a whistle blower surfaced in the State Department with substance that will send the lot of these liars to jail. Give us one true patriot who knows first hand who ordered what and what these gangsters were really doing in Benghazi with documents and pictures to hang them all.

  • ricoC

    Maybe it’s as simple as this: Ambassador Stevens, who was gay, threatened to expose the fact that he and President Obama were once lovers. Annex under fire?? “I think I’ll go to bed. I have a long day of fundraising ahead of me tomorrow.”

    • Americana

      OMG, can the conspiracy theories become ANY SLIMIER??? Really, you’re going to stoop this low?

  • claspur

    I had good suspicion by the 14th and knew factually by the 20th-that the reason for all of this(coverup), was because of the clandestine transfer of weapons into Syria, and of-course, because of Barry Obola’s reelection bid.

    • ljm4

      BHO: “The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.”
      He knows about which he speaks…

  • newsel

    Just how long is the “investigation” going to take? Will holding both the House and Senate speed up the process? Never forget..

  • cargosquid

    One question to ask….and it should be simple to answer…. What was the location of the Spectre gunships on that night?
    Because the defenders were lasing targets, EXPECTING fire support.
    And reports surfaced that one Spooky was in Tripoli.
    If this is true….what happened?

    • dwayne roberson

      Yes! Why were they painting those targets?

  • Americana

    Everyone needs a WATCH AND a STOP WATCH to help them analyze any columns and articles that reference the Benghazi timeline ‘cuz everyone is attempting to manipulate and create the sense that Benghazi time moves in mysterious ways not related to EST/CST/etc.

    I guess I’ll have to repost the timeline so everyone understands what help couldn’t arrive from wherever and have arrived in time to have been of any help. In the meantime, I’m tired of the conspiracy theorists who remain unnamed and yet are still cited by certain news outlets. There are far too many HIGH-RANKING MILITARY who’ve gone on record like these folks below who’ve DISCREDITED THESE SPURIOUS ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE TIMELINES for Benghazi relief forces. It’s sick and it’s foolish to give credence to these cockamamie on-line conspiracy theorists who claim critical military standing.
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    FLIGHT TIME FROM CROATIA FOR A C-130 — : (K. TIMMERMAN) ——— “Many in the military have been asking why reinforcements weren’t flown in from Croatia, where a fifty-man U.S. Army counter-terrorism/hostage-rescue unit known as C-110 was on a military training mission.”

    STOP WATCH NEEDED (AGAIN) TO ANALYZE TIMELINE!!!! ——— Ambassador Stevens and Information Officer Sean Smith were DEAD WITHIN TWO HOURS of the first assault on the consular compound. That is ‘GAME OVER’ in any language even if it’s not in military parlance.

    So, w/the first two deaths occurring within two hours of the beginning of the attack there wasn’t time for your TWO TO SIX HOUR RESPONSE:

    (K. TIMMERMAN) ——— “C-110 was the Commanders In-Extremis Force (CIF) for European Command, a rapid reaction force capable of getting men and equipment into their C-130s to respond to a crisis in somewhere between TWO TO SIX HOURS.”
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    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/05/02/foreign-policy-magazine-casts-more-doubt-on-fox/193876

    From the above link:

    published two accounts from experts who strongly questioned Fox’s Benghazi source. Ricks reported that he’s hearing Fox doesn’t have a scoop with its Benghazi source, and quoted Retired Special Forces Col. David Maxwell stating:

    Whistle blower my a**. If this guy is a real special operator (and I have my doubts) I wonder if he realizes what an embarrassment he is to the community. What he offers is pure speculation and not based on any real facts as I have heard and appears to be coming from his fourth point of contact. He comes across as just another conspiracy theorist who is taking Fox News for a ride.

    In a separate article, U.S. Marine Corps officer and special operations team leader Billy Birdzell called Fox’s source “a clown” and criticized news outlets for “not using Google” before promoting him. Birdzell explainedhow forces in the area, including the force training in Croatia that Fox’s source discussed, would have needed far more time to reach Benghazi than they had.

    On April 30, 2013, Fox News aired an interview with a supposed member of U.S. Special Operations Command who said that members of “C-110,” who were training in Croatia on September 11, 2012, could have both arrived at the Benghazi consulate in 4-6 hours and arrived before the second attack on the annex during which Tyronne Woods and Glen Doherty were killed. The mystery man critiques the Obama administration’s decision-making, yet offers no information as to how C-110 would have influenced the battle in such a way that the outcome would have been different. Perhaps because it was actually impossible for C-110 to arrive before the attack, and if they did, they would not have been able to do anything that would have prevented our heroes, Woods and Doherty, from being killed.

    [...]

    Assuming magical planes were waiting for the CIF and they were somehow able to physically get to the annex before 0515, mystery man failed to mention that Doherty and Woods were killed by mortar fire. Forty operators armed with rifles and light-machine guns can neither stop mortar rounds nor determine from where the mortar is being fired. The only thing the CIF would have done had they gotten to the annex before 0515 is created more targets and overcrowded the consulate.

    Even if the CIF was on ready 5 (fully armed, sitting in the aircraft with pilots at the controls) in Sigonella (the closest European base to Benghazi) with advanced warning of an attack but unsure of the time, and they launched at 2232 on only-in-Hollywood orders from someone other than the president, they would not have been able to do anything about Stevens and Smith’s deaths, nor stopped the mortar rounds. Strike three.

    The person in the interview is a clown and I am incredibly disappointed in the news for not using Google.
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    From: http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/05/02/the-newsy-nonsense-of-fox-news-benghazi-insider/193880

    This plays into the Fox Cycle, a process Media Matters has documented by which false and misleading conservative attacks make the transition from right-wing hobbyhorse to national media narrative, with Fox News playing a key role in pressuring mainstream press outlets into covering the story. Fox has been working hard at doing just that this week with a series of segments on Special Report with Bret Baier featuring an anonymous Benghazi “insider” who purports to contradict the official account of the Benghazi attack.

    Here, however, are five instances in which the “insider” describes events that actually took place, were already known, or have been debunked.

    1. The presence of special forces in Croatia. Media Matters documented one such instance of Fox’s confidential informant breaking news that everyone already knew — the presence of a special operations force in Croatia. “I know for a fact that C-110 [a special ops team], the EUCOM CIF, was doing a training exercise, not in the region of Northern Africa, but in Europe. And they had the ability to react and respond,” said Fox’s unnamed source. Everyone knows that “for a fact” because it’s been a matter of public record for months now and was included in the Pentagon’s official Benghazi timeline. Then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta ordered those forces to deploy, but they could not arrive in time.

    2. Deployment of those special forces. That brings up another point of contention. Fox’s source claimed: “We had the ability to load out, get on birds, and fly there at a minimum stage. C-110 had the ability to be there, in my opinion, in four to six hours from their European theater to react.” [emphasis added] The phrase “in my opinion” is highlighted there because that’s all this is. An opinion. The State Department independent Benghazi review and outside experts have a different opinion: that there were no military assets that could have made it to Benghazi in time to make a difference. This is less a contradiction of the official account than a disagreement from a party whose identity and expertise are as yet unknown. (Former Marine officer and special operations team leader Billy Birdzell dismantled Fox’s source’s claims about the deployment of C-110here.)

    3. Airborne evacuation of survivors. In that same segment, Fox’s source said that we should have sent “a quick reaction force that could facilitate their exfil out of the problem situation. [...] If it’s an unknown situation, at a minimum, you send forces there to facilitate the exfil or medical injuries. We could have sent a C-130 to Benghazi to provide medical evacuation for the injured.” [emphasis added] According to the State Department report, evacuees and “all wounded personnel” were taken out of Benghazi on a chartered jet, with a Libyan C-130 taking “the remaining U.S. government personnel from Benghazi to Tripoli”:

    Evacuees, including all wounded personnel, departed Benghazi on the chartered jet at approximately 0730 local. Embassy Tripoli staff, including the Embassy nurse, met the first evacuation flight at Tripoli International Airport. Wounded personnel were transferred to a local hospital, in exemplary coordination that helped save the lives of two severely injured Americans

    Embassy Tripoli worked with the Libyan government to have a Libyan Air Force C-130 take the remaining U.S. government personnel from Benghazi to Tripoli. Two American citizen State Department contractors traveled to the airport and linked up with the remaining U.S. government personnel.

    4. CIA security team “took matters into their own hands.” Fox’s source is also apparently giving a boost to the network’s previous Benghazi “bombshell” — that CIA personnel had been ordered to “stand down” in response to the Benghazi attacks. Fox News correspondent Adam Housley, who interviewed the unnamed man, reported on April 29:

    HOUSLEY: He also says that as the attack began, there were at least 15 special forces and highly skilled state department security staff available in the capital Tripoli who were not dispatched, even though they were trained as a quick response force. Meantime, a group of American reinforcements also in Tripoli, which included the CIA’s global response agent, Glen Doherty, and about seven others took matters into their own hands. A little known fact which also contradicts the version of events in the State Department report.

    The team commandeered a small jet and flew to Benghazi to help try and secure the CIA annex still under fire. Doherty would eventually be killed on the roof along with his friend, Tyrone Woods. And our source says, these men deserve the highest medal of honor for their actions.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If it wasn’t for that decision, I think we’d be talking completely different about this entire situation. I think you would be looking at either 20 plus hostages loose captured by AQ or you’d be looking at a lot of dead Americans dead in Benghazi.

    It’s not just the State Department that contradicts the notion that the CIA security team bucked the chain of command and struck out on their own; the CIA also denied this was true. The CIA timeline of events notes that the security team waited to depart while CIA officials attempted to contact Libyan intelligence and local militias for assistance, and left only after the team leader and the CIA base official agreed they could not wait any longer. There was definitely a sense of urgency, but all indications are that the security team and CIA officials were acting in concert.

    5. The “commandeered” jet. As for the “commandeered” plane, the CIA timeline documents an unsuccessful attempt by the security team to commandeer heavy weaponry from the militias, but agrees with the State Department that they arrived in Benghazi in a chartered plane — the same craft that later helped to ferry survivors from Benghazi. The State Department report goes so far as to note that one of the few instances in which the Libyan government did more to help than harm was in facilitating the departure of that chartered jet from the airport in Tripoli [page 36].

    Foreign policy experts are already going on record challenging the accuracy, expertise, and credentials of Fox’s anonymous source. His own words do little to boost his credibility, given that he’s purporting to “contradict” the official record with facts that are already part of the official record and claims that have already been debunked. But for Fox, getting the Benghazi story right is less important than getting the rest of the media to cover it the same way they do — as the second coming of Watergate.

  • Bob332

    This entire Regime , top down, is evil incarnate. Most sane American’s KNOW the CIA was performing a covert transfer of arms( authorized illegally by the tyrant himself) i.e. a Fast & Furious op. Everything vomited by this Regime after the attack were ALL lies.

  • Dave B.

    The story about the pictures is false. The “Michael/Michelle” business is utter nonsense. Michelle Obama NEVER said President Obama was born in Kenya– that’s another goofy birther lie you can’t get straight. There are videos edited to that effect, but there is no video of Obama “telling his audience that he was born in Kenya.” It’s really sad how when birtherism and ODS come in the door, good sense goes out the window.

    • b_paolucci

      I know this is hard for a leftist, any leftist but at some point in your life you need to face and accept the truth.
      This is not a story about the pictures, the videos are there for all to see. Michael/Michelle business can not be dismissed by saying its utter nonsense – Obama has called it Michael and the Administration pushes homosexual/deviant behavior throughout the school system. Again, look at the you tube videos – they’re available for those who want to see it. And Obama did tell his audience that he was born in Kenya, he did it when he was a senator – again, check you tube’s videos.

      Its really sad when you reply with denials that don’t hold up. I’m getting you acquainted with the truth – all you have to do is go to http://www.youtube.com & do searches.
      If you won’t do that, shut up. If you did it and want to hide the fact that everything I wrote is correct – shame on you. But now everyone who sees this post will know where to go to find the videos and can see for themselves. They won’t buy into your b.s.

      • Dave B.

        What’s with the “leftist” business? Where have I expressed any ideology at all?
        Your claim that the president “has called it Michael” is just plain DUMB.
        You will not find ANY genuine, unaltered video of Obama telling his audience that he was born in Kenya. It simply does not exist.

        • b_paolucci

          Where’s your proof that any of the videos have been altered? You’re all hot air.

          • Dave B.

            Geez, talk about “all hot air.” Where’s your VIDEO? Show me the video and I’ll show you how you can tell it’s been altered.

          • b_paolucci

            1) Obviously you still haven’t looked at the videos on you tube – if you had seen them and found them to be altered you’d be running your mouth about it. But you haven’t! 2) You lost your right to say I’m all hot air, I’ve seen the videos and they have not been altered. 3) Those videos were vetted years ago, if they were fake, you tube would have taken them down. You are full of you know what!

          • Dave B.

            If you really had genuine, unaltered videos, you could provide links to them. Provide links to the ones you THINK are genuine, and I’ll point out how anybody but an idiot can see they’re fake.

          • b_paolucci

            I’m not your secretary. It’s more than telling that you pronounce the videos as being altered yet won’t go to you tube to look at them. Says an awful lot about how phony you are. I’ve made my point. You have not!

          • Dave B.

            What makes you think I haven’t looked at any videos? It’s because I have that I know they’re fake; and it’s more than telling that you’re afraid to even come up with any videos in the first place. I’m not asking you to be my secretary– heaven forbid I’d ever rely on somebody so obviously incompetent– I’m challenging you to back up what you’ve said. You come up with your specific videos; I’ll tell you why your specific videos are fake.

          • b_paolucci

            So, now you say you looked at the videos and know they are fake. Previously you sang an different tune – but hey let’s see where this goes. Post your findings showing that the videos are fake – name the video and where in each you find they are altered i.e. PUT UP OR SHUT UP!

          • Dave B.

            I beg your pardon, but I’ve been consistent throughout. You say you have videos– link to them. I’ll show you what’s wrong with YOUR videos.

          • b_paolucci

            you have been consistent throughout in claiming the videos are altered but you can’t say how or where in each of the videos. You are full of it! AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY, PUT UP OR SHUT UP. THIS IS THE LAST YOU WILL HEAR FROM ME – YOU ARE A PHONY AND NOT WORTH ANYONE’S TIME!

          • Dave B.

            And I’ll repeat– show me the videos YOU’RE referring to– the specific ones– and I’ll show you what’s wrong with them. Are you afraid to do even that?

  • Dave B.

    “Those who have done the research…such as Mark Zullo and Sheriff Joe Arpaio…and countless others…have exposed many discrepancies in Obama’s life.”

    Now that’s a hoot. Arpaio doesn’t even pretend to have “done the research.” About all Zullo’s done is crib from Jerome Corsi’s old WorldNet Daily articles. The Cold Case Posse “investigation” was never anything but a publicity stunt and fundraising scam. It’s as if they assiduously avoided producing ANYTHING that would be usable as actual judicial evidence.

    You say,

    “the theory that he was born in Kenya did not start with conservatives. No! It started with Obama’s publicist who said he was born in Kenya.”

    Yes, in a publicity brochure for the agency; one so obscure that not even birthers, who scour the earth for anything that might cast the slightest shadow of credibility on the lies they’re so desperate to believe, ever heard it until Breitbart blew the dust off of it in 2012. Don’t try to hang birtherism on that nail– it won’t hold up.

    You find a trip from Hawaii to Washington hard to swallow? Tell that to your birther buddies, who swallow an absurdly implausible round trip to Kenya and back hook, line and sinker.

    Your purported “many inconsistencies found in his alleged birth certificate as well as his Selective Service registration” don’t begin to stand up under scrutiny. Your “very accomplished and bright people” who claim forgery have never even so much as been in the same room with the documents. How goofy is that? On the other hand, the state agency responsible for Hawaii’s vital records has officially verified the accuracy and authenticity of Obama’s birth records. Which one do you think carries more weight in the REAL world?

    And what in the world does having foreign students for roommates have to do with anything? You never heard of THAT? For crying out loud, I had a roommate from Belize. When I was in school, it wasn’t at all uncommon for foreign students to share rooms with American students.

    See, the problem here is that I’ve actually DONE research on all this– real research, and not just regurgitating goofy birther talking points.
    And what’s with this “you Libs”? Where have I expressed ANY ideology?

    • b_paolucci

      Its in his own book!

      • Dave B.

        What is this “It”?

  • b_paolucci

    He doesn’t do the research – he just spouts the leftist party line. He’s a total waste of time.

    • Dave B.

      Well that’s ironic.