Jihad’s Secret Weapon Against America

Tri-Faith[Mark Christian can be contacted at: mark@globalfaithinstitute.org].

Reprinted from WND.com.

Much has been reported about Latin Americans sneaking across the U.S. southern border, but there may be a greater danger looming in America’s heartland in the form of nearly 2 million Muslims who have made their way to the U.S. since 1992.

And, unlike the surge at the southern border, most of those coming from the Middle East have done so legally, with the full support of the U.S. federal government.

Scholars such as Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller and Daniel Pipes have warned for years of the Muslim Brotherhood’s doctrine of immigration, or “al-hijra,” as the long-term strategy to transform America into a different type of society – one that subjugates all other religions under Islam.

Now, another man has stepped up to sound the alarm. And his credentials make him hard to ignore.

Dr. Mark Christian, an obstetrician and former Egyptian Muslim with direct family ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, is talking a lot these days about “stealth jihad.” He says it’s the Brotherhood’s way of exploiting liberal immigration policies while working relentlessly through various Islamic front groups to pressure government, education and religious institutions to make concessions to Islam.

gf“Their plan here is to use the influence of the U.S. to further their own agenda. It has been going on for quite some time,” said Christian, who broke with the Islamic faith in 2003, converted to Christianity and came to America two years later. He changed his name and settled in Nebraska, only to be threatened and harassed by Muslims, including some from his own family.

“The Muslim Brotherhood is so big right now and so influential and so wealthy that they can do things on their own,” he said. “The only thing that is missing is the power of the U.S. military to be on their side.”

He explained that the Brotherhood’s goal is “to restart the Islamic empire.”

“And they think if they can restart it again, they can reconquer the whole earth.”

That plan starts with immigration.

Watch Mark Christian discuss his confrontation with the Muslim Brotherhood in the American Heartland:

 

 WND reported earlier this week the U.S. State Department plans to accept at least 75,000 Syrian refugees, hand-selected by the United Nations, for resettlement in American cities over the next five years. Meanwhile, the influx of refugees from other Muslim countries such as Somalia and Iraq continues at a rate of more than 25,000 per year.

But a look at the overall immigration picture shows the U.S. government has gradually increased the religious “diversity” of new immigrants coming into selected American cities. More than 1.7 million Muslim immigrants have come to the United States between 1992 and 2010, according to a study by Pew Research Center, which has conducted one of the few studies on the religious affiliations of immigrants.  The State Department says it does not ask the religious affiliation of refugees.

Immigration by the numbers

Prior to 1990, fewer than 5 percent of foreigners who took up residence in the U.S. came from Muslim countries, according to Pew. Most of them came on temporary student visas and returned to their homelands after receiving their education.

Not anymore. The trend in recent years is to allow permanent status through an array of programs, including the U.N. refugee program, the annual diversity visa lottery and special programs for foreign religious leaders. Still others are able to remain past the original date on their visas through a program that allows “temporary protective status” for 18 months at a time.

“So there are many programs by which Muslims can come in, but in many ways the U.N. refugee program is the most outrageous because they qualify immediately for government welfare benefits whereas many of the other programs they must have been here for five years,” said Ann Corcoran, who monitors the refugee population across the 50 states and writes a blog for Refugee Resettlement Watch.

Most of the U.N. refugees from Muslim countries lack education and skills that would allow them to find well-paying jobs in America. Those who do work often end up toiling in meat-packing plants or other factories that pay minimum wage. They supplement their paychecks with food stamps, Medicaid and government-subsidized housing.

But most troubling to some critics of these programs is their potential impact on the nation’s demographics and culture. They say refugees from war-torn Middle Eastern countries don’t assimilate and don’t understand or necessarily respect American values of individual liberty and responsibility.

Look at Europe

For a hint of what might be in store, one need only look toward the cultural and demographic shift occurring in Europe. Muslim enclaves have sprung up in cities across France, Germany, Belgium and the United Kingdom where it has become unsafe for Jews and Christians to enter and where civil laws gradually bow to elements of Islamic law, or Shariah.

Once they arrive on U.S. soil, the evidence suggests Muslim immigrants in cities such as Minneapolis; Lewiston, Maine; Cleveland; Columbus, Ohio; and Shelbyville, Tennessee, have done a poor job of assimilating into American culture.

American Muslims are more often Sunni as opposed to Shiite, and roughly 80 percent of American mosques built since the 1970s have been at least partially funded with money from Saudi Arabia, the headquarters for a particularly virulent strain of Sunni Islam known as Wahhabism, as explained in a WND report in 2002.

According to the Pew Research study on the religious affiliation of immigrants, the number of Muslims entering the U.S. as a percentage of the total immigrant population has doubled over a recent 20-year period, going from 5 percent in 1992 to 10 percent in 2010.

wnd1While America’s overall Muslim population is only 0.8 percent according to Pew, 0.6 percent according to the CIA World Factbook, and up to 2 percent according to other sources, the European experience shows that Islam does not need anywhere near a majority of the population to begin influencing a country’s laws and culture.

The largest Muslim population in Europe resides in France, where the CIA World Factbook estimates 5 to 10 percent of that country’s overall population claims faith in Allah. Pew Research puts the figure just under 6 percent and projects that it will continually balloon to 7 percent by 2020, to 8.5 percent by 2030, and that by 2050, nearly a third of the nation’s people will identify as Muslim.

And the picture is not much different in other European countries. Germany’s Muslim population, mostly from Turkey, is estimated at 5 percent, Belgium 6 percent, Austria 5.7 percent, the Netherlands 5.5 percent, Sweden 4.9 percent and the U.K. 4.6 percent. Almost all of these countries will have Muslim populations of 10 percent or more within 20 years, based on current birthrates.

More than personal rules

If Islam were just another religion, the rise in Muslim immigration might not pose a problem.

But many conservative scholars who have studied Islam for years say there is more to Islam than its daily call to prayer and its dietary rules against pork and alcohol.

Islam has a decidedly political aspect that few in the halls of the U.S. State Department seem to understand, contends Robert Spencer, author of several books on Islam, including “Stealth Jihad: How Radical Islam is Subverting America without Guns or Bombs.”

“Just in terms of population, you’re talking about people with a much higher birthrate than the native peoples. You’re talking about a religion that sanctions polygamy, so this means the Muslim community is going to expand exponentially compared to other communities,” said Spencer, who also authors the blog Jihad Watch for the David Horowitz Freedom Center. “But this is not about numbers, it’s about a religion that has intentions to take over the state.”

wnd2He said the connections between the major American Islamic societies and the international Muslim Brotherhood have been well documented, but almost nobody in Congress or the executive branch seems interested in connecting the dots.

Spencer noted that when Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., in 2012 asked for an investigation into possible Muslim Brotherhood infiltration in the government, she was ridiculed and derided.

So, as Spencer explains,  it’s not just a matter of the Muslim community advancing in Europe and America, it’s that all of the possible neutralizing factors are in retreat, hiding behind well-intentioned fantasies of multiculturalism, diversity and tolerance.

Spencer is not the only Western scholar who is worried.

“Some 5 percent  of the EU, or nearly 20 million persons, presently identify themselves as Muslims,” wrote historian Daniel Pipes in an article for the New York Sun. “Should current trends continue, that number will reach 10 percent by 2020. If non-Muslims flee the new Islamic order, as seems likely, the continent could be majority-Muslim within decades.

“When that happens, grand cathedrals will appear as vestiges of a prior civilization – at least until a Saudi-style regime transforms them into mosques or a Taliban-like regime blows them up. The great national cultures – Italian, French, English and others – will likely wither, replaced by a new transnational Muslim identity that merges North African, Turkish, subcontinental and other elements.”

In the U.S., Spencer and others believe the Muslim Brotherhood works through organizations such as the Council on American Islamic Relations, or CAIR, and the Islamic Society of North America, or ISNA. Their power far outweighs that which might be expected for a religion that still claims only a tiny percentage of the American population as adherents.

“The connections these groups have are such that you only need a few people, much like the Bolsheviks did in Russia, because they had the vision and the ruthlessness and no other group had the will to stop them,” Spencer told WND. “We already see from the captured Muslim Brotherhood documents their intent to infiltrate and destroy the U.S. from within, and so I can’t see why they wouldn’t be successful, since no one is allowed to even discuss these plans in a public dialogue.”

A different kind of jihad

Mark Christian is one man who is intimately familiar with the Muslim Brotherhood strategies. He left Egypt for good in 2005, when he came to the U.S. at the age of 33. That was two years after he converted to Christianity and was disowned by his family.

His great-uncle was one of the co-founders of the Muslim Brotherhood, he said, and shared an Egyptian jail cell in the 1960s with Sayyid Qutb, whom many, including Osama bin Laden, have revered as the doctrinal godfather of the Brotherhood. Christian says his father is still an influential member of the organization.

After spending some time in England, he and his wife settled in Omaha, Nebraska, which he thought would be a safe haven.

“I chose Nebraska because it’s not that popular and nobody knows about Nebraska in the Middle East, because I had a very bad experience with the Muslims in England,” he said. “I was new in my faith and trying to learn more about Christianity. After I moved to Omaha, some of the guys learned about me converting and going to church, and they started threatening and harassing me, calling my wife.”

Americans should not be deceived by the fact that, despite increasing immigration, the Muslim population is estimated at only 1 to 2 percent, Christian said.

He told WND that the Muslim Brotherhood strategy from 1966 forward has been to avoid confrontations with American power. Instead, he says, the Brotherhood attempts to coax the U.S. into using its power for the Brotherhood’s own benefit.

The Brotherhood’s strategy is three-pronged, he said. It uses its front group CAIR to influence the government and military life, while ISNA works to foster “interfaith” dialogue with major Christian denominations and Jewish organizations. A third front group, the Muslim Student Association, or MSA, focuses on influencing K-12 and university education.

It is through these three groups that the Brotherhood wages “cultural jihad,” or what Christian calls “stealth jihad.”

“They want to influence the whole United States,” Christian said. “They see the U.S. as three things – it’s a government, it’s a religious institution and it is colleges and education; so we have three organizations and all are designated to each one of those things.”

ISNA concentrates mostly on outreach to Christian and Jewish religious groups.

“They say they are building bridges, but in reality they are building death tracks for these churches, watering down their theology, trying to influence the Christian teachings of the Bible and find common ground with Islamic teachings,” Christian said. “Basically they are trying to find common ground so they can kill it.”

He cites the Shoulder-to-Shoulder movement as one of ISNA’s crowning achievements.

Shoulder-to-Shoulder is a coalition of 20 religious groups that includes many of the major Christian denominations. Members include the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, the United Church of Christ, the Episcopal Church in the USA, the Presbyterian Church (USA), the Reform Judaism movement and left-wing organizations such as Sojourners magazine.

Their stated goal is to fight “anti-Muslim bigotry,” but that’s just the window dressing, Christian says.

When a similar interfaith movement started in his own community of Omaha, Christian began working through an organization he formed, the Global Faith Institute, to help get accurate information about Islam to the churches.

Christian’s organization is trying to stop the Muslim Brotherhood infiltration of the “Tri-Faith Initiative,”  which calls for the construction of a Jewish synagogue, Christian church and Muslim mosque on the same campus in Omaha, as reported last month by WND.

Christian said the Brotherhood front groups prefer to work with the large denominations and rarely pay attention to small churches.

“They say, ‘Oh we all worship the same God and we need to find common ground,’” Christian said. “It’s all about ‘respecting women, Islam is great,’ and it’s all a bunch of lies. Whenever you find those kinds of movements within the church, you always find a watered down, very liberal theology that is anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist. But there is money involved and influence involved.”

Watch Frontpage Editor Jamie Glazov confront Taqiyya over the Tri-Faith Initiative:

Working the military and universities

Meanwhile, CAIR is working with the military and law enforcement agencies to make sure Muslims are granted certain privileges, whether it be in the way police are allowed to investigate Muslim suspects or concessions for Muslim members of the military.

In 2011, the FBI, at the insistence of CAIR, scrubbed all of its training manuals of all references to Islam that were deemed offensive to Muslims. Christian also points to the deadly Fort Hood, Texas, attack by Army Maj. Nidal Hasan, who in 2009 gunned down 13 of his fellow soldiers. The crime, however, was not investigated as an act of terrorism but as “work-place violence” by the Obama administration.

“We cannot fight ISIS without cleaning house in our own military,” Christian said. “There is no chance.”

On the education front, MSA has a chapter in almost every American college and university, no matter how small, Christian said.

“They try to change the mindset of the kids and college students and they’re very active,” Christian said. “Their job is to degrade America, degrade Israel, and then degrade Christianity.”

Christian said Muslim Brotherhood front organizations like MSA have also worked to influence the content of American school textbooks, increasing the favorable references to Islam and its prophet, Muhammad.

“They talk about him like he’s a Robin Hood character” in many of the textbooks, Christian said. “He’s this amazing guy whose message was spread around the world, and he wanted to take from the rich and give to the poor. No mention of any conquests and no mention of the sword, the beheadings, nothing.”

So while America has less than 3 million Muslims, comprising less than 2 percent of its population, Christian says “that 2 percent is working tirelessly and they have unlimited resources coming from Saudi Arabia and Qatar and elsewhere.

“Their influence is huge.”

Lessons from Europe

Christian believes America may only be 10 to 15 years behind Europe in the creation of a parallel Islamic culture.

In January, the German city-state of Bremen signed a treaty with city’s 40,000-strong Muslim community. The agreement “guarantees the protection of Muslim community properties, the approval of the construction of mosques with minarets and domes, the allotment of land for Muslim cemeteries, the supplying of halal food at prisons and hospitals, the recognition of three Muslim holidays, Muslim representation in state institutions and several other rights and privileges,” reports the Gatestone Institute.

According to Erol Pürlü, the spokesman of the Muslim Coordination Council, a Turkish-Muslim umbrella group, the treaty with Bremen “sends a clear signal that Islam belongs to Germany.”

Bremen is the second German state to sign a treaty with local Muslim communities. Hamburg, the second-largest city in Germany, concluded a “historic treaty” with the city’s 200,000-strong Muslim community in November 2012.

All across Europe, major cities are experiencing growing Muslim quarters that are increasingly hostile to non-Muslims.

“Especially in the big cities they have control of certain neighborhoods, not the whole city,” Christian said. “I love traveling, and when I was in Europe my wife and I used to drive from one country to another, so you talk about London, Paris and all over Europe now, when the population gets bigger they call it a ‘no-go zone’ where the police can’t come in and they set their own rules. And they have access from the Middle East, so they can go in and get asylum, in many cases even if they’ve been rejected by their own government for being terrorists. England has been opening its doors for years to the Brotherhood’s leaders, after Margaret Thatcher had shut them out.”

Spencer is equally pessimistic that America will avoid the path taken by Europe, where elected leaders increasingly cater to Islam.

“I think in America we will see the same thing that’s happening in Europe happening here,” he said. “There will be growing enclaves with Muslims living in close proximity, such as Dearborn, Michigan, and Minneapolis, Minnesota, and less and less respect for civil law and more and more for Islamic law.

“We see it now in Antwerp (Belgium), parts of London and in Malmo, Sweden.”

Spencer said he has personally been banned from Britain, as has the co-author of one of his books, Pamela Geller. Anyone who speaks out publicly about what they see as the dangers of Islam can expect the same fate, he said.

Similar but different strategies

Christian sees similarities in what has happened in Europe and the situation in America. But the Muslim Brotherhood strategies for the two continents are not exactly the same, he said.

“There is something different over here. What they are doing in Europe is different than what they are trying to accomplish in the states,” Christian said. “They need to gain the U.S. government’s trust through the Muslim Brotherhood front groups, so over there they are trying to make it more scary.”

Most of the leaders in Congress, those in the executive branch and those running the major U.S. media corporations are, psychologically, right where the Brotherhood wants them, Christian said.

“When you see ISIS you can’t in five months change your minds about the peaceful Muslims. So when you see them slaughtering people’s heads you would say ‘these other guys from the Muslim Brotherhood are political, they are not slaughtering heads in front of the cameras like ISIS,’” he said. “‘So while I know he’s a bad guy at least I have conversation with him, unlike that guy over there slaughtering heads.’ So it’s good cop, bad cop. When, essentially, they’re the same. The majority of the government and media in America would say, ‘You know, I would rather work with the Muslim Brotherhood than with ISIS.’”

Christian said the Muslim Brotherhood plan to prepare the world for Islamic law and Islamic supremacy goes back to the early 1970s, after its leaders were released from prison in Egypt.

“That is when they decided not to be local anymore, but to be more international. I have lived in interesting times,” he said. “And I have been in meetings, even as a kid, where it sounded ridiculous to me, but lo and behold it seems to be coming together all the way they wanted it. I understand it very well.

“It is coming together even better I think than they planned.”

In fact, the strategy of stealth jihad is working so well in America that Christian does not foresee any major terrorist attacks being planned anytime soon.

“They have their foot soldiers here from Somalia and Sudan and other places. But there will be no attacks for at least two years,” Christian said. “Not because the FBI is so great in stopping them, but because they are having so much success under Obama. And it will be the same under Hillary (Clinton) if she is the next president. No attacks on American soil are needed. But as soon as that is not effective enough, they will launch attacks, and they have the means to do that right away. For now they are terrorizing people enough in Europe and Africa and the Middle East, but they are having so much success over here using a different strategy of stealth jihad.”

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  • mollysdad

    I’ve just read Robert Spencer’s “Arab Winter Comes to America”. That book and this article convince me that what must be done to resist the Islamizarion of the West will not be done, and that there the victory of Islam is now inevitable.

    If you’re a young person just out of university, it might be a good idea to set yourself the long-term ambition of relocating to Latin America, China or Russia before having children. For if you have any, and they stay in the West, they will have to become Muslims to save their lives.

  • Bamaguje

    What is the GOP doing about this mass importation of Democrat voters… whose clearly stated agenda – as revealed in a captured Muslim Brotherhood manifesto – “is to destroy Western civilization from within”?

    • hawk1

      And how many of them will fall for this:

      Senior DHS advisor Mohamed Elibiary ( R ), supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood, said he was leaving DHS so he can focus on “reforming” the conservative movement in preparation for the 2016 presidential election. His agenda is to “help” the Republican’s electoral prospects by moving its foreign policy in a pro-Islamist direction.

  • ProgNorth

    Much of this has been stated before and at the risk of sounding like a broken record, the ‘surprising success’ of the Brotherhood’s plan, is due to the aiding and abetting of the left, in their war on the west and it’s traditions.
    This long and drawn out ‘war within’ has largely destroyed the one thing that bound us together: that our underlying foundation was built on Judeo-Christianity and it’s sub-principles of personal freedoms and responsibilities, family, hard work and purpose. I’m certainly not suggesting that everyone was a Christian, but that it was the basic weave in the fabric that caused the west to be great.
    We have allowed these things to be destroyed, not by any outside force, but from within and have become a people without conviction and belief. This is our greatest weakness, that we have picked at the weave for so long, that our fabric lay torn and in tatters and we stand naked before an enemy with purpose, who sees his cause as just.
    We have lost our way and are running out of things to fight for.

  • http://johnnyangeladvocacygroup.net JohnnyAngel Advocacy Group

    This government is leveling communism under the guise of feelgood immigration policy, which is slowly reducing the middle class out of existence and onto the government system of dependency. The legislators should be sent to the guillotine for sedition. Stealth policy with the intention of making the populace puppets and zombied expendables. This is LIFE DESTROYING policy and the leadership should be collectively removed for good !!

  • steven L

    In her magnificent ingenuity, the Left hopes to use the Muslims to destroy their enemy: the Right. And “vis versa”!

  • Robin-Frans Winkel

    I predicted in 2005 to a friend that the USA would islamize more rapidly than Europe.

  • DanTriplett

    The solution is Worldwide criminalization of Islam through incremental random Strategic Area Bombing.

    God gave America the intelligence and resources to build nuke weapons to confront evil. Let’s use them. We can force every government on Earth to criminalize Islam inside of two weeks, excluding Muslims from all societies, forcing them to live in caves like animals.

    Domestic Muslims should be placed in Internment Camps, making formal apostasy a condition of release.

    We can never eliminate every Muslim from the Earth, but we can eliminate their ideology.

    Islam is Sedition and Conspiracy to Murder. It’s not a religion we must tolerate. It’s a crime we must not tolerate.

    The solution here is rather simple. All we need is the will.

    DANIEL J. TRIPLETT, Maj, USAF (IRR)
    Six year War Vet, Afghanistan/Iraq

    • bigjulie

      The only problem with “formal apostasy” is Taqqiya. Under that doctrine a Muslim can say or do whatever will further Jihad and the eventual complete conquering of the planet by Islam including lying about renouncing the Muslim faith.
      The danger has been around since the 7th century. It has demonstrated time and again its penchant for frightful, devastating terror, in pursuit of its goal of world-wide Caliphate!
      I agree with you. Islam is in sorry need of a major “enlightenment”! The message of the enlightenment is clear and simple. If you want to be a Muslim, then take your barbaric, sub-human way-of-life to a majority Muslim country and KEEP IT THERE!!
      Islam has demonstrated time and again that it is the enemy of virtually everything the rest of the world holds dear! Wherever they have obtained enough power to command, horrendous torture results and heads begin to roll…LITERALLY!! Women will be enslaved! As I write this, ISIS conquerors in Iraq are raping women by the thousands, intent on impregnating them to increase the Muslim population! The immigration of Muslims needs to be banned immediately! Anyone who is for Muslim immigration is in support of the world-wide caliphate!
      The “enlightenment” should start in Mecca. About 10 megatons should do for a nice start. A short time for consultation with Muslim leaders and, if there is no “enlightenment”, another 10 megatons at a Muslim city near you…continue as needed until the desired result is obtained, that being a realization that the Qu’ran and the Hadiths have been “misinterpreted” and Islam becomes the quintessential of a Religion of Peace, IN DEED AS WELL AS IN WORD!
      Time’s awastin’!!

      • DanTriplett

        I like the way you think bigjulie. Great target list. In addition to the big black cube of evil, I’d add these to the first no-notice nuke strike Air Tasking Order: Iranian nuke production facilities, the Pakistani nuke arsenal, and the ISIS Command and Control Center. Targeting mainly hardware initially, but threatening Muslim population centers later. This lets them know we’re serious about using nukes to destroy Islam.

        Incremental random Strategic Area Bombing would most effectively break their will to fight, as we learned in Japan and Germany. Incremental, to minimize damage and enemy casualties, giving them time to re-think their loyalties to Satan, aka Allah. And random, such that no one would know where to hide, convincing every Muslim in a Muslim country that they could be next. We decided three days was an appropriate increment for the Japanese strikes.

        We need an alliance with all other non-Muslim nations on Earth, particularly the nuclear armed ones: Russia, China, India, as well as the NATO countries, sans Turkey. An alliance of all non-Muslim nations forcing terms on all Muslim nations. This is why harassing Putin so much now is a bad plan. Whose side do we want him to take in this Biblical conflict?

        Regarding Taqiyya, I was thinking that a “formal” denouncement of Allah and Mohammad may override in their minds any lies with Taqiyya. Both a written document of Apostasy that they sign, as well as placing their left hand on The Bible, raising their right hand, and swear their disavowal to Islam. Perhaps this would divorce them psychologically from their Satanic faith.

        An additional measure would be forced conversion to Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, or Hinduism. This could be done either initially, or after we’ve had an opportunity to measure the recidivism rates from forced Apostasy alone.

        Religion is a major part of a Muslim’s life. If we only force them to deny Islam, leaving them with a lot of time on their hands and without a deity to worship, 1.6B Muslims may invent another religion, likely more dangerous and menacing than Islam. This new religion would probably be modeled as close to Islam as they could get away with.

        Forcing them to commit to one of the four sanctioned and benign religions would give them a ready-made “religion-in-a-box” so to speak, and give them large groups of people with whom to associate and learn.

        We couldn’t really force them to remain in their new religion, but we could force them to formally commit to a new religion on paper and spoken Oath of Allegiance in front of a Magistrate and witnesses. Perhaps this process would circumvent any Taqiyya and divorce them from Islam. Perhaps if they feel they’ve blasphemed Allah in such a formal manner, they’d feel marked for murder among the remaining Muslim community, never able to return, so they may as well get with the program and join in with the new community.

        If they want to leave their new religion five minutes after swearing allegiance to it, we can’t stop them, but perhaps the process up to that point would be enough to psychologically divorce them from Islam. Moreover, we’d make clear to them that the penalty for refusing to convert, or recidivism back to Islam is death.

        Personally, I believe what I’ve described here is the only long term solution that will work. If someone else has a different plan that would be more effective, I’d sure like to hear it.

        • bigjulie

          Forced conversion is not the way to go. It didn’t work during the Crusades and it won’t work now! This is why I feel the necessity for “enlightenment”. All religions have undergone “enlightenment” to one degree or another due to the “discovery” of “new truths”! Muslims believe that nothing happens in their world that is not “willed by Allah”!
          If Allah wills that several hundred thousand of them need to be changed to “Krispy Kritters” with the understanding that those doing the “Krispy-ing” do not want to convert to Islam under ANY circumstances, I doubt that such a message would be lost on Islamic leaders! It is hoped that they would project their “enlightenment” onto the Muslim populace and truly live in peace with everybody else.
          Another important aspect of “enlightenment” is the realization that Allah created all humans as equals and they need to be so treated by leadership that the population chooses, not some Divinity school! These are fundamental philosophical truths that go back to the 16th and 17th century! Humans have a brain to think with and any conversion to some group of articles of faith…or none…needs to be done by intellectual persuasion, not under the threat of being separated from one’s head! Because so much of the Islamic faith is based on the abject ignorance of the vast majority of its “faithful”, some peaceful education would eventually be in order before offers of knowledge of other religions (or none) are made. Conversion would have to be voluntary, however, else we would be casting ourselves in their image. This will be a tall order, considering that butchery and violence are all they currently know in order to come to their ends.
          But first, we have to stop their rampage completely and as quickly as possible. That’s going to take a lot of “Krispy Kritter-ing” right there! But if it can conclude the influence of centuries of “Bushido”, I believe it will work wonders with Islam!

          • DanTriplett

            What’s your end-game?

            I think we agree that Islam isn’t compatible with civilization, and Islam must end.

            Muslims believe the Quran is the literal word of their deity. Those words are therefore non-negotiable in their minds. No one gets to debate Allah or change his word. Therefore reforming Islam is impossible. Removing all the verses from the Quran and Hadith that we Infidels find objectionable would turn the book into a thin brochure, besides the fact that Muslims would never agree to it.

            We can’t educate Muslims out of their faith. There is plenty of info on the Internet about the evils of Islam for all Muslims to see. Does it change any of their minds? Hardly. Perhaps to a few, but not in the numbers we need to eliminate the threat to the Western World.

            They can only be “educated” at the point of a gun.

            After we turn a slice of their population into “Krispy critters,” what is it you’d like the Muslim leaders of those nations to do? What would be your terms were you the POTUS?

          • bigjulie

            Hi Dan,
            I’m remote from my home by about 180 miles to take care of some equipment maintenance, and thus do not have a lot of time to devote to the internet.
            I’ve been thinking about your comments, and, based on what I know so far about Muslim teachings, the Qu’ran and the Hadiths, I have to agree that you are most likely correct!
            There will be no “mistakes” that can be corrected, or “misinterpretation” of Allah’s teachings, therefore nothing needs to be changed except the non-Muslim world. From the time of Mohammad, that change has been by way of unspeakable violence, fear and intimidation. It is all they know! Any so-called “negotiation” only results in the Muslims giving up nothing while extracting ever more concessions from whomever they oppose. Look at what negotiation has gotten the Israelis… in over 20 years of useless and worthless talk, NOTHING, except death and more death, and more worthless talk!
            As much as I hate to admit it, it appears more and more that the only answer to the “Muslim Problem” is complete extermination…a complete erasure of all Muslim tenets from the Earth! The only way that will be accomplished is the complete eradication of all who believe in it!
            I had to consider the Muslim record in regard to negotiation
            (they don’t do it!) and correction of mistakes in interpretation
            (there are none, as far as they are concerned.) They are hell-bent on converting the rest of the world to their beliefs, inevitably by brutal force and coercion!
            This is a philosophy that is poisonous and demeaning to the civilized world. It needs to be completely removed from the face of the Earth which means complete removal of all who believe in it…end of story! I am beginning to understand your rationale, in the face of what Islam believes and is. Forced conversion out of Islam if you want to live, or you DIE!!

          • DanTriplett

            Excellent bigjulie; very wise words. If you ever want to run for public office, let me know. I’d be happy to be your campaign manager. You’d be a blessing for our government and society.

            I agree that people who are wiling to strap bombs to their children and send them into coffee shops in the name of “Allah” are not reasonable. We can neither reason nor negotiate with them.

            No more appeasement. We need to take charge and destroy evil. I believe that’s what our Lord wants us to do.

          • Aubryn

            Julie, after you have read the quran, you will see that enlightenment is not possible for a muslim. You are or your not. If you are you believe in all the vile perversions satan can think up, otherwise you are not. There is no moderate-if you are muslim you can rape babies or goats and sodomize little boys and behead anyone you decide isn’t your brand of muslim………….

        • Aubryn

          Forced conversion to Christianity is not possible, Scripture says so. Force and Christianity are mutually exclusive. But I do understand your point and agree with the sum of what you are saying.

    • Aubryn

      Thank you Major, both for your comments and your service.

      • DanTriplett

        Thank you Aubryn. I appreciate that. Serving America has been the greatest privilege of my life.

        And I agree with you about our Scripture in that no one can be forced into Christianity. That’s not The Lord’s way. I was proposing though a doctrine of forcing Muslims to choose a religion other than Islam. The choice would be theirs: Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, or Buddhism. If they pick Christianity, that’s their choice, but they could also freely pick one of the other three.

        I just think that’s probably a better plan than forcing apostasy alone on them, essentially converting them to Atheists. I don’t think they’d remain Atheist, instead reverting back to Islam or creating a new unknown, unvetted, even more dangerous fictional religion. Counting on them to remain benign Atheists is not realistic in my opinion.

        • Aubryn

          Perhaps we should just leave it to God to judge them, and get them to Him as soon as we can so He can do just that! ☺

  • roger

    Sort of on topic.
    The Halal tax on everyone.
    First some anecdotal evidence here in Australia.
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    An Australian with a small chicken processing business paid for Halal Certification on said business but was still losing money because some outlets were refusing to accept his produce because the Certification was not complete.
    He went to the Islamic Certifier and hey said that it was ‘because his delivery vans weren’t certified’, after some heated words he refused and tried to carry on but was losing around three hundred thousand dollars a year.

    Finally he went to the Muslim organisation and said what do I have to do.

    They then told him he would have to pay a fine, and also pay back fees to cover for the last three years.

    He sold the business and left the industry.

    Apart from food produce, there are ancillary things, like retail outlets, restaurants, equipment etc. ( an ever increasing list. )

    Companies are often forced to sign a non disclosure agreement prohibiting disclosure of fees.

    The International costs according to the Q Society site is USD. 2.3 trillion. ( growing at %20 per year.)

    Just imagine a tax on every one that is collected with the complicity of western governments and funnelled to a single minority group.

    Link to halal certified foods. (foods only ) in Australia.

    http://www.halalchoices.com.au/product_lists.html

    http://www.halalchoices.com.au/product_lists.html

  • popseal

    The self imposed ignorance of so many Americans is the single strongest weapon in Islam’s arsenal. After every atrocity we are told the lie by the same apologists that Islam has nothing to do with it. The perpetrators always give the same ‘war cry’ but the CNNs of the world say Islam has nothing to do with it. The stench of this media load of bovine scatology is over whelming.

  • dev

    Great article. I live near a large Muslim community and you are correct. Assimilation just doesn’t happen.