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		<title>By: Thedocumentarian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thedocumentarian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2014 03:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Newcomers? What are you talking about? Who are the newcomers?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newcomers? What are you talking about? Who are the newcomers?</p>
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		<title>By: Hymie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hymie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2014 03:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And the &quot;Newcomers&quot; were patriotic?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the &#8220;Newcomers&#8221; were patriotic?</p>
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		<title>By: Thedocumentarian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thedocumentarian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2014 03:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny how Americans celebrate cinco de mayo WAY more than Mexican Americans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how Americans celebrate cinco de mayo WAY more than Mexican Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: Thedocumentarian</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/lloyd-billingsley/ninth-circuit-turns-first-amendment-inside-out/comment-page-1/#comment-5380843</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thedocumentarian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2014 03:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I support the school. It&#039;s not a violation of 1st amendment rights, it&#039;s a violation of safety. 

These kids are not patriotic. Why did they only wear it on May 5th, why didn&#039;t they wear it for the other 365 days our of the year.

These 5 kids were trying to pick a fight, plan and simple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support the school. It&#8217;s not a violation of 1st amendment rights, it&#8217;s a violation of safety. </p>
<p>These kids are not patriotic. Why did they only wear it on May 5th, why didn&#8217;t they wear it for the other 365 days our of the year.</p>
<p>These 5 kids were trying to pick a fight, plan and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Hymie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hymie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2014 20:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[. . . not that agree with the withdrawal.  Mexican girls with French accents and there&#039;d be no border.  Oo la la.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . . not that agree with the withdrawal.  Mexican girls with French accents and there&#8217;d be no border.  Oo la la.</p>
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		<title>By: Hymie</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/lloyd-billingsley/ninth-circuit-turns-first-amendment-inside-out/comment-page-1/#comment-5380638</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hymie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2014 20:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maiman&#039;s got it backwards.  Cinco de Mayo was a mere temporary setback for the victorious French.  Only the US threat of war got the French to withdraw.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maiman&#8217;s got it backwards.  Cinco de Mayo was a mere temporary setback for the victorious French.  Only the US threat of war got the French to withdraw.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 22:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Balkanization of the US continues to its inevitable conclusion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Balkanization of the US continues to its inevitable conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Alleged Comment</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alleged Comment]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 21:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, like all illegal treasonous unconstitutional laws we don&#039;t obey them.  Why should we practice civil disobedience like them?

THEN we go after the treasonous traitors who keep harassing us, right?  We then put them on trial and then they go to jail.

So what&#039;s the problem here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, like all illegal treasonous unconstitutional laws we don&#8217;t obey them.  Why should we practice civil disobedience like them?</p>
<p>THEN we go after the treasonous traitors who keep harassing us, right?  We then put them on trial and then they go to jail.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the problem here?</p>
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		<title>By: f</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[f]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 21:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is why I say that we should scrutinize lawyers who want to become president. Judges have become more and more activist in defiance of the power of the legislature -- representatives whom the people elect. Rather than upholding and judging according to the law, they can&#039;t help taking their judicial power to the next level and usurp the legislature. Something must be done here decisively. There should be a definite deterrent to judicial misconduct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I say that we should scrutinize lawyers who want to become president. Judges have become more and more activist in defiance of the power of the legislature &#8212; representatives whom the people elect. Rather than upholding and judging according to the law, they can&#8217;t help taking their judicial power to the next level and usurp the legislature. Something must be done here decisively. There should be a definite deterrent to judicial misconduct.</p>
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		<title>By: fiddler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fiddler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 21:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Maiman’s column charged that those who protested the school’s decision were guilty of  “predictable jingoistic outrage.”&quot;
Yep, put a PC label on it and that justifies selective application of freedoms. So peaceful &quot;jingoism&quot; is worse than offending people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maiman’s column charged that those who protested the school’s decision were guilty of  “predictable jingoistic outrage.”&#8221;<br />
Yep, put a PC label on it and that justifies selective application of freedoms. So peaceful &#8220;jingoism&#8221; is worse than offending people.</p>
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		<title>By: fiddler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fiddler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 21:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;A Sacramento Bee column by Bruce Maiman supported the school’s decision and pointed out that the Live Oak student body was “40 percent Latino.” And this report cited “a history of threats and campus strife between Latino and Anglo students.”&quot;


Gee how about doing something about the violence instead of timidly denying certain people their free speech. Too hard? Yeah, I guess it&#039;s better to appease the perpetrators and punish peaceful speech. It works for the school.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A Sacramento Bee column by Bruce Maiman supported the school’s decision and pointed out that the Live Oak student body was “40 percent Latino.” And this report cited “a history of threats and campus strife between Latino and Anglo students.”&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee how about doing something about the violence instead of timidly denying certain people their free speech. Too hard? Yeah, I guess it&#8217;s better to appease the perpetrators and punish peaceful speech. It works for the school.</p>
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		<title>By: Lightbringer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightbringer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 19:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or maybe it&#039;s time to do something about Roberts.  How about early retirement so that he can have lots of quality time with the family?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or maybe it&#8217;s time to do something about Roberts.  How about early retirement so that he can have lots of quality time with the family?</p>
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		<title>By: Lightbringer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightbringer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 19:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s called the heckler&#039;s veto.  Scream loudly enough, threaten or commit sufficient disruption, property damage, and violence, and you get your way.  Just like a three-year-old throwing a fit in the supermarket when Mommy has already put in a long day at work:  Give the little beast the candy and shut him up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s called the heckler&#8217;s veto.  Scream loudly enough, threaten or commit sufficient disruption, property damage, and violence, and you get your way.  Just like a three-year-old throwing a fit in the supermarket when Mommy has already put in a long day at work:  Give the little beast the candy and shut him up.</p>
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		<title>By: David O'Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David O'Brien]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 17:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Folks should review the Morse v. Frederick (2007) decision (aka, &quot;Bong Hits 4 Jesus&quot;).  The 9th Circuit ruled in favor of the student -- that school officials could not &quot;punish and censor non-disruptive&quot; speech by students at school-sponsored events simply because they object to the message.

The school appealed to the SCOUS and SCOUS over-turned the 9th Circuit&#039;s ruling that supported of the student&#039;s free speech rights.  Roberts even wrote the majority opinion -- citing Tinker (1969) as providing the controlling analysis.  Given this, I can see how the 9th Circuit ruled they way they did.

It&#039;s time to do something about Tinker (1969) and how it is often used to justify trampling on the First Amendment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks should review the Morse v. Frederick (2007) decision (aka, &#8220;Bong Hits 4 Jesus&#8221;).  The 9th Circuit ruled in favor of the student &#8212; that school officials could not &#8220;punish and censor non-disruptive&#8221; speech by students at school-sponsored events simply because they object to the message.</p>
<p>The school appealed to the SCOUS and SCOUS over-turned the 9th Circuit&#8217;s ruling that supported of the student&#8217;s free speech rights.  Roberts even wrote the majority opinion &#8212; citing Tinker (1969) as providing the controlling analysis.  Given this, I can see how the 9th Circuit ruled they way they did.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to do something about Tinker (1969) and how it is often used to justify trampling on the First Amendment.</p>
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		<title>By: David O'Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David O'Brien]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*sigh*... I wish folks would keep their heads on -- and actually read and think.

But why do that when you can go on a B.S. Obama attack?  G.W.Bush (w/Karl Rove) also wanted to toss out the Constitution.

The Constitution is our law of the land.  The 9th Circuit believes the SCOUS 1969 Tinker v. Des Moines Indep. Comm. School District decision gives the school a right to trample on the First Amendment.  The 9th Circuit didn&#039;t make that decision, the SCOUS did.

Note that even a George H.W. Bush appointee sided against the students and for the school.

I&#039;m totally pissed at this decision - but this is the same legal process that is getting us our proper 2nd Amendment Rights in California.

So instead of the B.S., lets do something about this!  Either get the SCOUS to state that 1969 Tinker was wrongly interpreted by the 9th Circuit.  Or, get our law makers to pass a law that one can were USA patriotic clothing (and make other patriotic gestures) 24/7 in all places of this land.

Also, vote out the Morgan Hill Unified School District Board that supports denying citizens to display the U.S. flag.  It is appalling that if the school feared violence they didn&#039;t cancel this school sponsored Cinco de Mayo celebration.  The school made a 180 degree wrong decision here.  Hold them accountable!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh*&#8230; I wish folks would keep their heads on &#8212; and actually read and think.</p>
<p>But why do that when you can go on a B.S. Obama attack?  G.W.Bush (w/Karl Rove) also wanted to toss out the Constitution.</p>
<p>The Constitution is our law of the land.  The 9th Circuit believes the SCOUS 1969 Tinker v. Des Moines Indep. Comm. School District decision gives the school a right to trample on the First Amendment.  The 9th Circuit didn&#8217;t make that decision, the SCOUS did.</p>
<p>Note that even a George H.W. Bush appointee sided against the students and for the school.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m totally pissed at this decision &#8211; but this is the same legal process that is getting us our proper 2nd Amendment Rights in California.</p>
<p>So instead of the B.S., lets do something about this!  Either get the SCOUS to state that 1969 Tinker was wrongly interpreted by the 9th Circuit.  Or, get our law makers to pass a law that one can were USA patriotic clothing (and make other patriotic gestures) 24/7 in all places of this land.</p>
<p>Also, vote out the Morgan Hill Unified School District Board that supports denying citizens to display the U.S. flag.  It is appalling that if the school feared violence they didn&#8217;t cancel this school sponsored Cinco de Mayo celebration.  The school made a 180 degree wrong decision here.  Hold them accountable!</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfthatknowsall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolfthatknowsall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 16:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charles, I understand what you&#039;re saying, and I can agree with the economic arguments you make.  This assumes, however, that the government of an independent Confederacy would not have guided the Southern states toward a new economic paradigm

Slavery was dying by the economic costs of the institution, and not even victory would have saved it.  By the time mechanization had been instituted on the cotton fields, American cotton would have been cheaper and there would have been more of it, on the world markets.

But then, there is the costs to the world of there being two Americas, especially in the 20th Century.  These costs would take a book to analyze properly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles, I understand what you&#8217;re saying, and I can agree with the economic arguments you make.  This assumes, however, that the government of an independent Confederacy would not have guided the Southern states toward a new economic paradigm</p>
<p>Slavery was dying by the economic costs of the institution, and not even victory would have saved it.  By the time mechanization had been instituted on the cotton fields, American cotton would have been cheaper and there would have been more of it, on the world markets.</p>
<p>But then, there is the costs to the world of there being two Americas, especially in the 20th Century.  These costs would take a book to analyze properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 06:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 9th &quot;circus&quot; should be disbanded. They are a worthless band of Pelosi&#039;s that should have never been allowed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 9th &#8220;circus&#8221; should be disbanded. They are a worthless band of Pelosi&#8217;s that should have never been allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Hammond Jr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles Hammond Jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 05:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I partially agree with your conclusion: The South needed a swift victory before the tides of the economy turned against them.  The only reason why Southern Cotton had any value during that period of history was because the only other source of cotton (Egypt) wasn&#039;t producing nearly as much cotton as it once was.


As soon as Egypt started producing enough cotton again then the financial strategy of the south would have made funding the war impossible for much longer.  Gettysburg could have allowed a swift southern victory but the southern economy would still have been wrecked with no chance of a quick recovery.


Even if the Civil War were won the only end result would be a temporary victory over the North.  The South would have had no financial recourse to deal with the costs of the war afterwards.  The south might have survived on its own for a decade out at best then it would have collapsed under the weight of it&#039;s own debt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I partially agree with your conclusion: The South needed a swift victory before the tides of the economy turned against them.  The only reason why Southern Cotton had any value during that period of history was because the only other source of cotton (Egypt) wasn&#8217;t producing nearly as much cotton as it once was.</p>
<p>As soon as Egypt started producing enough cotton again then the financial strategy of the south would have made funding the war impossible for much longer.  Gettysburg could have allowed a swift southern victory but the southern economy would still have been wrecked with no chance of a quick recovery.</p>
<p>Even if the Civil War were won the only end result would be a temporary victory over the North.  The South would have had no financial recourse to deal with the costs of the war afterwards.  The south might have survived on its own for a decade out at best then it would have collapsed under the weight of it&#8217;s own debt.</p>
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		<title>By: thatsitivehadenough</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thatsitivehadenough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 05:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I lived in Sacto back in 1971 and even back then Mexicans expected to take back California.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in Sacto back in 1971 and even back then Mexicans expected to take back California.</p>
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		<title>By: Hector Ruiz III</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hector Ruiz III]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 04:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[California is already becoming part of Mexico. I see it every single day in Los Angeles. The Mexican flag flies proudly points east of the 110. And Mexico is so awesome (murder, kidnapping, extortion, corruption), it&#039;s no wonder people want that for California. Dreams really can come true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>California is already becoming part of Mexico. I see it every single day in Los Angeles. The Mexican flag flies proudly points east of the 110. And Mexico is so awesome (murder, kidnapping, extortion, corruption), it&#8217;s no wonder people want that for California. Dreams really can come true.</p>
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