The Stalin-Hitler Pact Turns 75

genocide_template_clip_image002In June, Western democratic leaders invited Vladimir Putin to the 70th anniversary of D-Day memorial in France, but there’s no good reason he should have been there. Putin is an autocrat, not a democrat. He laments the demise of the Soviet Union, a dictatorship that played no role in the D-Day operation. And since Putin is now conducting an incremental invasion of Ukraine, a different memorial would be more suitable. As it happens, this one is long overdue and remains shrouded in ignorance.

Seventy-five years ago, on August 23, 1939, the USSR and Nazi Germany became allies through the Stalin-Hitler Pact. Joachim von Ribbentrop signed for Hitler and Soviet foreign minister Vyacheslav Molotov signed on behalf of Stalin. Molotov said that Hitlerism was “a matter of taste,” and that it was “not only senseless, but criminal” to wage war on Hitler “camouflaged as a fight for democracy.” Though often described as a “non-aggression pact,” the reverse was true.

The month after the Pact, Stalin and Hitler both invaded Poland, starting World War II. The Pact also gave Stalin control of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, which he retained after the war, along with other conquests such as Czechoslovakia, Hungary and what became the German Democrat Republic, the regime that made emigration an exciting experience.

While the pact was in effect, Soviet and Nazi intelligence agencies worked together and American Communists did everything in their power to keep the United States from coming to Britain’s aid. During the Pact, the Soviets murdered 22,000 Polish officers in the Katyn forest. That came at the direct order of Stalin, as Russia now acknowledges. Less well known is the reality that Stalin also handed over German Jewish Communists to Hitler’s Gestapo. At the Nuremberg trials after the war, Joachim von Ribbentrop was convicted for signing the Pact while Molotov, who signed for Stalin, sat in the accuser’s chair. So Stalin and his gang got away with it.

A Nazi-Soviet Pact memorial would be a great opportunity for Putin to express his admiration for Stalin. Maybe he could provide some enlightenment on what happened to the Jews Stalin handed over to Hitler. And as a former KGB man, maybe he could bring out more details of Soviet-Nazi intelligence cooperation during the Pact. This could be a shining moment for Putin, but the memorial would also do others some good.

American educators, for example, could familiarize themselves with these events and gauge the depths of their ignorance and denial. Some might even decide to make the Stalin-Hitler Pact into a college course. That would tell students something they don’t know. American politicians would also benefit.

It’s a good bet that most of them, regardless of party, know little if anything about the Stalin-Hitler Pact. A 75th anniversary memorial would help educate them, and would be particularly relevant for Barack Obama, President of the United States. He could use the memorial to expand on one of his mentors.

That would be Frank Marshall Davis, an orthodox Stalinist of exceptional ferocity, with an absolutely sulfuric hatred of the United States. Davis joined the Communist Party USA after the Pact was signed, at the same time others were leaving the ranks, never to return. The Pact memorial would be an opportunity for Obama to provide a full profile of the man his handlers disguised simply as “Frank” in “Dreams From My Father.” If Frank Marshall Davis ever believed, said, or did anything with which Obama disagreed, a Stalin-Hitler Pact memorial would be the ideal time to set the record straight. After all, the Obama administration is the most transparent in history, with not a smidgeon of corruption. And of course, it would be another photo op he could use to raise funds. He could even bring along his travelling studio audience.

Former First Lady and current presidential candidate Hillary Clinton could also benefit. One of her mentors is Robert Treuhaft, a Stalinist lawyer who joined the Communist Party USA after the Stalin-Hitler Pact and served faithfully in the USSR’s alibi armory. Hillary Clinton, who interned for Treuhaft, could use a Pact memorial to clarify Treuhaft’s career, and explain why he left the Communist Party in 1958, as he claimed. And she could go on record if she ever disagreed with anything her Stalinist mentor believed, said or did.

That could prove enlightening, but as with Benghazi she might just say “what does it matter?” Actually, it matters quite a bit, especially for someone who wants to be president, and the one who already is.

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  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    The hitler/stalin non-aggression pact was a Socialist pact.

    National SOCIALIST and Soviet SOCIALIST.

    A pact that lasted until, not surprisingly, the National SOCIALIST broke the pact and invaded the Soviet Socialist Union.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

    https://eperiod2013.wikispaces.com/file/view/photo.PNG/374242494/photo.PNG

    Google Images “hitler stalin pact”

  • http://JudeoChristianAmerica.org Alexander Gofen

    There is much more ugly aspects to this ugly anniversary.

    1) The Stalin-Hitler pact was only a step in the Stalin’s strategic plan “Icebreaker” (see Victor Suvorov). According to that plan, Stalin wanted first to empower and encourage Hitler so much, that Hitler easily occupy the entire Western Europe.

    2) Then the pact gave the opportunity to capture the nations between the USSR and Germany so that both became adjacent. Then Stalin was going to suddenly attack Germany and cut it from the Rumanian oil supply. In so doing Stalin hoped to come as a “liberator” of Europe (using Hitler as an “icebreaker”).

    3) On June 22, 1941, invading USSR, Hitler anticipated Stalin only in a few weeks, incurring terrible losses to USSR. Even so, the Icebreaker plan had finally succeeded (assisted by Roosevelt and Churchill), though “partially”: Stalin “liberated” and captured only the Eastern Europe!..

    4) Not only America and the Allies had failed to decipher the Icebreaker plan. Much worse: They cooperated with Stalin helping him to implement it! Under pressure from Stalin, they conducted the war so that by no means to appear in liberate Europe PRIOR to Stalin! The D Day and the heavy invasion to Normandy was a wasteful, very heavy, and deliberately delayed plan pushed by Stalin’s agents in the US. As soon the Allies had a bulwark in Italy in 1943, they could liberate Europe from there: Earlier and much cheaper, while Stalin was still far back in his GULAGs. But America was in a long process of licking Stalin’s boot since 1933. It was then when America and the West lost their soul (Diana West).

    • reader

      It would be very difficult and costly to push through the mountains in northern Italy. Italian campaign was conducted poorly in terms of tactics, coordination and discipline. Essentially, it was a drag race to Rome, while big chunks of retreating German troops were left unmolested and allowed to escape northward.

      • http://JudeoChristianAmerica.org Alexander Gofen

        There were roads around the mountains too. And landing from the water is obviously more challenging than proceeding on the ground. More importantly: It was a betrayal of American and Western interest to fight the Stalin’s plan of war. The first strategic goal of the West ought to be TO PREVENT the Stalin’s plan, rather than to cooperate for its fulfillment.

        • reader

          Not that I’m disagreeing with the gist of what you’re saying, but “roads around the mountains” are good for skiers’ buses, but not for masses of troops trying to push their way through enemy defenses.

          • http://JudeoChristianAmerica.org Alexander Gofen

            I refer you to the “American Betrayal” of Diana West for more details on this issue. Italy had never been so geographically isolated, that it made it inaccessible for the adjacent nations (and vice versa).

    • mulegino1 .

      It is also important to remember that Hitler only realized that war with the Soviet Union was inevitable AFTER his and Ribbentrop’s last meeting with Molotov in November of 1940, in which the Soviet Foreign Minister made it clear that the Soviets intended to occupy the Romanian oil fields, reoccupy Finland and push and attempt to control the Dardanelles.
      Stalin had already invaded Eastern Poland, Finland, annexed the Baltic countries and Bessarabia.

      As you point out, Barbarossa was not undertaken purely, or even primarily out of a pure desire for “Lebensraum”, but was a desperate, preemptive strike- a gamble- a fight for Europe’s life. If the Soviets had invaded Romania and taken the oil fields, it would have been over, and there would be no force to stop them from rolling right through to the English channel
      .
      Hitler knew that it would have to be a short war, as his soldiers were not equipped for a winter war, and the Wehrmacht’s weaponry was not suited for one either. He admitted as much to Marshall Mannerheim in the surreptitiously recorded conversation when he met the Finnish Head of State.
      “Google: Hitler-Mannerheim Recording”

      • http://JudeoChristianAmerica.org Alexander Gofen

        Thank you for the hint to Hitler-Mannerheim recording. It well corroborates with facts found in the “Icebreaker”. A climate of fear and suppression of reality took place in the surrounding of both tyrants Hitler and Stalin.

        1) The Stalin’s intelligence in Germany kept monitoring which kind of lubricant (the winter or summer types) is used, and whether the price of sheep changes, because for a winter war German soldiers would need millions of winter coats. Nothing of this kind was seen, so that branch of intelligence reported: Hitler is not ready for a war against Russia (which logically was true).

        Indeed, other branches of Soviet intelligence reported a huge concentration of German forces along the border, or even about the exact date of the June 22 attack. However Stalin’s henchmen and he personally were already set on what they wished to be reported. They ignored all such signals and punished the messengers. And that was how the USSR suffered the most terrible losses right in the first months because of mere ignorance and stubbornness of the Stalin’s machine. Similarly…

        2) Some of Hitler’s generals warned him too, that Russia is so big, that in no way is it possible to invade it before the upcoming winter: Even if not to expect any resistance and just to move on East non-stop. Hitler ignored them too – and did incur huge losses to his armies during the very first winter.

        That is what happens when tyranny suppresses the reason.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        You left out the part about your Socialist Fascist Germany FIRST invaded and occupied Western Poland. Two weeks later the Soviet Socialists invaded Eastern Poland – dividing up the spoils between the two Socialist entities.

        • mulegino1 .

          National Socialism- unlike international Socialism ( namely Judeo-Bolshevism)- was an unequivocal success. Within three years, Germany went from a starving, bankrupt, defeated, demoralized and hopelessly indebted nation with a 30% unemployment rate to a nation enjoying full employment, a rising standard of living, and a restored sense of national pride and purpose.
          To devotees of laissez-faire, libertarian, and Randian this is a very inconvenient truth. The worship of the false market gods will always end in ruin and impoverishment in an industrial or post industrial society.
          My loyalty to my compatriots and brethren transcends my fealty to money worship and usurious international finance.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            National Socialism, (namely atheist socialism) was a “success” if you think that 60 million dead and the destruction of Europe was a good thing.

            The USA came out on top, the nation relatively unscathed, but the population having paid a terrible price in blood to defeat your fascist socialist heroes.

          • mulegino1 .

            Since Germany wasn’t fully to blame for the war, and the British were first to engage in the deliberate area bombing of cities- by their own admission- 60 million dead can no more be Germany’s sole responsibility than the fictitious six million.
            Operation Barbarossa saved the entire European continent from perpetual enslavement to the Jewish dominated USSR.
            The greatest invasion force in history was caught off guard by the preemptive strike.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            mulegina,

            Your ignorance is showing again.

            3/15/39 – germany invades Czechoslovakia
            9/1/39 – germany invades Poland
            9/17/39 – soviet socialists invade Poland
            4/9/40 – germany invades Denmark and Norway
            5/10/40 – germany invades France,
            Belgium, Luxembourg and the Netherlands
            6/3/40 – germany bombs Paris
            10/7/40 – germany invades Romania
            4/6/41 – germany invades Greece
            and Yugoslavia.
            6/22/41 – germany backstabs and invades former Socialist ally Soviet Union
            7/10/41 – germany invades Ukraine

            Eventually the tables turned on your Socialist Germany.

            Ending, ceremoniously on May 8, 1945 withe UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER of your Socialist Germany.

          • Nicholas I

            Sieg Heil!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Sieg Nakba!

    • CDM

      I also read Icebreaker and the case that Suvorov puts forward is compelling and there is a lot of circumstantial and anecdotal evidence that supports it.

      The Icebreaker scenario envisioned a war of attrition between Germany and the Allies, just as in WWI, which would take a few years to exhaust both sides. However, when Germany forced the surrender of France in just five weeks, the timetable had to change. Is it any coincidence that the Soviet Union invaded the Baltic states just a few days after the Fall of France and removed the last buffer states between the Soviet Union and Germany and it’s allies?

      The conventional historical view is that Stalin was completely duped by Hitler. The problem is that this does not past the smell test because this is completely out of character for someone who was as paranoid as Stalin. Stalin was always two steps ahead of his rivals and often knew who his rivals were before they knew it themselves.

      And then there is the case of Ponary in Lithuania, a Holocaust site. The site was originally an oil storage facility built by the Soviet military. Wikipedia says it was for a nearby airfield, elsewhere I have read it was a fuel depot for tank forces. But either way, given its location, it makes no military sense to put something like that there, unless it is to support offensive operations.

  • sid_goldberg

    To think we were so close to ridding the world of International Jewry. Oh well- someday.

  • nobamunism

    Communism has actually evolved into fascism on a global scale. Examples are Russia, China, the EU, and of course crony capitalism in our own country.

  • nobamunism
  • mulegino1 .

    Hitler was pretty much forced into the pact by the British and French governments, with FDR’s ambassador, William Bullitt egging them on to back Germany into a corner vis a vis Poland. (Bullit had informed the British and French governments that the United States would come into the war against Germany eventually).

    It is important to remember that even as late as the dismemberment of the artificial state of Czechoslovakia (in which Poland participated by taking the Teschen region), German and Polish relations had been on a relatively friendly footing. Hitler’s views on Danzig and the Corridor were considered to be more moderate than those of his predecessors.

    It was Britain’s foolish and unworkable guarantee to come to the defense of Poland should she involve herself in a war with, and only with, Germany which at once fanned the flames of Polish intransigence and bellicosity, abrogated the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as well as the German-Polish Non Aggression pact.

    Hitler’s subsequent proposals to Poland vis a vis Danzig and the Corridor were quite reasonable and modest:

    Danzig, with 95% ethnic German population, returns to the Reich, while Poland retained usage of the port ,as well as independent access to the sea at Gdynia.

    Germany receives a right to construct a transportation corridor through the corridor to connect East Prussia to the rest of the Reich, while Poland retains sovereignty over the rest of the Corridor- a major territorial concession on the part of Germany.

    A Treaty of Military Alliance between Germany and Poland.

    The answer of the Polish Colonels to these demands was to increase the persecution and mistreatment of minorities, including ethnic Germans; make inflammatory statements threatening the invasion of Germany in the press; encourage local Polish militias to commit cross border incursions into German territory; Polish troops violated the territorial integrity of Danzig (then under the control of the League of Nations), and Polish flak batteries fired on Lufthansa civilian airliners on their way to and from Rastenburg.

    When it became clear that the Poles would not negotiate, and that Britain wanted war against Germany come what may, Hitler, in order to avoid a two front war, agreed to the agreement which became the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.

    Yet, even after signing the pact, the Germans awaited a Polish plenipotentiary to work out a last minute peace deal as late as the afternoon of August 31, 1939.

    The end result: half of Europe bombed to ruins by the Allied Air Forces, and the other half condemned to nearly 50 years of enslavement to Bolshevik tyranny. This was the war supposedly fought to “protect” Polish territorial integrity, which FDR and Churchill betrayed at Yalta.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Your socialist Germany declared War on the US, first, 4 days after the Pearl Harbor sneak attack.

      The US responded by declaring War on socialist Germany.

      After 12/7/41, the FAKE “anti-war”, Isolationists were finally made irrelevant.

      And today Socialists again side with anti-democratic Evil – Islamofascism.

      • mulegino1 .

        FDR had been prosecuting a full blown, undeclared naval war against Germany in the Atlantic, in violation of the Neutrality Act.
        Hitler’s speech declaring war against the United States is available with English subtitles on Youtube.
        The History Channel’s propagandistic schpiel is outdated.

        • Nicholas I

          Also, the US armed and supplied belligerents.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          mulegina, Here’s a nice Youtube for you.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D5ZHKPwb7w

          • mulegino1 .

            You mean the “Allies” won the Second World War? That is quite a revelation indeed.
            Unfortunately, Christian Europe lost.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            You are as “Christian” as Socialist SHlTler.

          • mulegino1 .

            “National” socialist. You appear totally unable to distinguish between the wildly successful national socialism- three years from 30 percent unemployment to full employment- and Judeo-Bolshevism- Holodomor, millions of Christians dead, the Gulag established, Jews form 85% of Soviet government, etc.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            WW2 was a Socialist War (National and Soviet) later competing and dragging the rest of the world into conflict.

            It would be better if both Socialism’s were destroyed in 1945, but we have to be gratified with the destruction of one of the two.

            The latter collapsing in the 1990′s.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            BTW, If your Socialist SHlTler was a “Christian”, why did he kill so many Christians?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            And the Axis LOST the Second World War.

            Watch the video to fill in the gaps in your knowledge.

          • mulegino1 .

            Actually, Christian Europe lost the Second World War.

          • Nicholas I

            “Christian Europe lost” – The K*** loves that.

      • Nicholas I

        Good. Preemptive necessity.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Socialist Germany and Imperial Japan later both surrendered, unconditionally to the US, UK and SU. Better.

        • UCSPanther

          You seem to be less intelligent overall than your “kamerad”.

    • solinkaa

      And so the narrative becomes that Poland, reborn only in 1918, was the cause of the whole horror. No matter that Germany was allowed to re-militarize while the French and the Brits looked on and did nothing (Poland actually at one point suggested a pre-emptive strike against Germany, but was laughed out of the room), and took Czechoslovakia with its largest military industry in Europe. No matter that the USSR had its formidable (by sheer numbers) Red Army with all the resources of the vast Euro-Asian territory. No. Hitler and Stalin were so scared of little Poland that they just HAD to invade. Are you getting the irony? I could go on, but let’s just say that the alliance with Hitler wouldn’t have guaranteed Poland peace. As things turned out, Poland lost millions of its citizens, lost the best and the brightest, some in the circumstances too horrific to contemplate, and that loss will never be recouped. It would be helpful if that particular rape victim were not blamed for what befell her.

      • mulegino1 .

        Poland was a dupe of the British war party and the FDR administration. It was a sacrificial victim lured by the promise of military victory over Germany, with French and British support.
        Notice that the latter nations did not declare war on the USSR on Sept. 17 when it invaded eastern Poland.
        The whole affair was to set up the war against Germany.

        • Nicholas I

          Polish idiocy caused them to depend on the USSR’s British and French backers, when Poland should have allied with Germany, Finland, Romania, Hungary, etc.

          • reader

            What is it with you Jew haters trying to identify yourselves with the worst losers of the loser world? Hitler, Nikolas I – really? Isn’t it obvious for anyone with a functioning brain that both weren’t exactly sharpest tools in the shed? Granted, I doubt that you have a functioning brain, so here you are – barking nonsense and thinking that you’re impressing people.

          • Nicholas I

            Oy vey!

            Jewishmag:

            “Those years in the early 1850′s were a living nightmare [oy vey!] for the Jews of the [gigantic] Pale Settlement. Nicholas had apparently struck their Achilles heal. The Jews much have no doubt wondered, how much longer could this torture continue? Would it get evenworse? How much longer could they endure?

            “Fortunately for the Jewish community, relief arrived. Nicholas’ career as their antagonist ended on February 19, 1855, with his death.

            “The sense joy and celebration among Jews when they heard the news was overwhelming. February 19, was also the holiday of
            Purim.”

            Oy vey!

            Anyone hated by The K*** is worth studying.

          • reader

            I’m not even Jewish, moron. But I know I’m smarter than you are. It’s simple math: 99.5% of the Earth population is.

          • Nicholas I

            I never said that you are a jewish moron. Most k***s are ho’s for The K***.

          • reader

            You’re projecting and you don’t even know it. Keep it up, they might give you a gig at MSNBC being sidekick to incomparable Al Sharpton:

            http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2011/08/09/dumb-ass-al-sharpton-but-resist-we-much-we-must-and-we-will-much-about-that-be-committed/

          • Nicholas I

            Your hasbara is pathetic, Shlomo.

          • reader

            Try more Yiddish – it may seem that your IQ is a notch higher than the actual 15.

          • Nicholas I

            Why would I try Yiddish? I’m no pervert. I don’t want to talk to your hairy-backed yenta ho-mom.

          • reader

            Obviously, you are a pervert and depraved in many ways – mainly mentally, of course.

          • Nicholas I

            How come so many yentas are mudsharks, like the owner of this site?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            How come some many socialists are loozers, like You Nicky?

          • mulegino1 .

            The assassination of Czar Nicholas and his innocent family at the hands of mostly Jewish executioners will never be forgotten by Russians or Christians of most stripes. It was a sick, barbaric, repulsive crime, and a precursor to the Jewish enslavement of the Christian populations of Eastern Europe, which made the so called fictitious “Holocaust” pale in comparison.

          • reader

            It’s a different Nicholas. You two idiots can’t even keep up with one another.

          • mulegino1 .

            It may be a different Nicholas, but seeing as it’s the same tribal perpetrators of the murders, it just keeps getting harder and harder to distinguish the victims from one another. It’s hard to keep up with tallies of Kosher violence.
            Much like the avowed 6 million- Birkenau tallies grow smaller every day until they dwindle down to some ten thousands- yet the numbers never change.

          • reader

            Right, Nikolas – whatever. If you can’t count to two, you surely shouldn’t be tackling numbers higher than 3.

          • UCSPanther

            I’m glad you hate Purim, buddy. Any historical event that makes morons like you cry foul is music to my ears.

          • Nicholas I

            “buddy”? u learned that in Hasbara 101?

          • Nicholas I

            Cha bad Lubeabltch:

            “Judaism 101: History Crash Course #57: The Czars and the Jews: Rabbi Ken Spiro: It is arguable which of the Russian Czars was the worst to the Jews. We’ll start with Czar Nicholas I (who ruled from 1825 to 1855) as one of the prime contenders and work our way down.”

            See, I must have been a wonderful and loving patriot, to be so hated by the Synagogue of Satan.

          • Nicholas I

            I don’t hate anyone. Typical k***-projection.

          • nobullhere

            Poland couldn’t have allied with Germany. The fact that Germany wanted Danzig, West Prussia and Posen provinces returning to the Reich from Poland saw to that.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Notice that Socialist Germany did not declare war on fellow Socialist USSR when it invaded Eastern Poland.

          The two Socialists, German and Soviet, were content to share the spoils of their invasion.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      The Allies bombed the half of Europe that was enslaved by Socialist SHlTler.

      Western Europe was finally Liberated on May 8, 1945.

  • Erudite Mavin

    Excellent commentary.

    The Stalin – Hitler Pact needs further exposure and in depth explanation as to the manipulations of these two.

    I have a number of serious books on this subject and the surrounding time frame of history.

    If only Europe and the U.S. could have stopped Hitler in the 1930s when he started his camel nose under the tent in the Rhineland, Sudetenland, Anschluß, before the entire camel took over the tent. 10s of millions of lives would have been saved.
    also If Roosevelt would not have propped up Stalin with 100s of millions of dollars in lend lease and jumped to Stalin’s wishes, what a difference for Eastern Europe
    in the end.

  • solinkaa

    Conservatives, so often called “fascists,” should tell this story at every opportunity. After all, the progressive vision of large government providing for the populace is the very fascist vision defined by Musso, “All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    WW2 was a Socialist War that eventually engulfed the entire world.

  • UCSPanther

    Your comment feed is very telling. I see a fool who is going all out in trying to whitewash and defend an empire that burnt itself to the ground trying to pick a fight with the whole world.

    You may as well just drop your historical revisionism and confess: You are still upset over your side getting dominated 70 years ago…

    • mulegino1 .

      Actually, it was quite the other way around- those in search of both world financial hegemony and the effective enslavement of a good part of humanity under Judeo-Bolshevism picked a fight with Germany and destroyed it, precisely because it was an obstacle to their intentions.

      • UCSPanther

        Translation: The Axis got what it deserved for picking a fight with more than they could handle.

        • mulegino1 .

          Yes, and the world is so much, much better off for it!
          Just think, if the Axis had won, and the US stayed out, Europe might have been overrun by a horde of third world immigrants, and the US could have been overrun by illegal immigrants, lost its industrial base, been on the brink of bankruptcy and societal implosion, with race riots; due to Axis domination of its media, its culture could have become perverted enough to accept abortion on demand and celebrate the marriage of homosexuals.
          It is possible that the Middle East would have exploded into violence and bloody chaos and that Eastern Europe could have become the flashpoint for a third, and final world war featuring extinction level exchanges of atomic weaponry.

          • UCSPanther

            You seriously believe that?

            You totalitarian apologists always make the claim that you would have “created utopia had you won”, but we know human nature would simply never allow that to happen.

            If he had won, Hitler would not have ruled forever, and once he was gone or removed from power by Germany’s politboro, they would have replaced him with someone else, and possibly less competent.

            It was the same pattern in the Soviet Union and continued until it collapsed under its own weight. The same would have happened to N azi Germany had it survived.

          • mulegino1 .

            How illuminating, you’re admitting that Hitler was competent!
            And no, there was no comparison between the “politboro” of the USSR and the German Reich, because unlike the former, the latter was destroyed from without.

          • UCSPanther

            The Soviets and N azi Germany were remarkably similar in basic ideology and political structure, and prior to invading Russia, Germany’s propaganda was actually boasting of their similarities to Marxism.

            That was all swept under the carpet and the narrative shifted to paint the Reich as a force of anti-communism when they tried to invade the Soviets.

            Another fact: The Soviets actually had an alliance with the Reich, where they would provide each other with supplies and divide up Eastern Europe between themselves. Soviet propaganda at the time was boasting of their “Socialist Alliance”, but when the invasion of Soviet territory commenced, they too swept their original narrative under the carpet and started going full bore on trumpeting the “anti-fascist” narrative.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Eurabia is being overrun by Turd Worlders who demand that YOU adopt Turd World Values. And like a proper Dhimmi, you comply.

  • UCSPanther

    I also noticed another interesting contradiction that you squareheads often show in your narrative: You praise the expulsion of Jews in Europe throughout the ages, but yet, you whine and moan about Germans being ejected from places like Czechoslovakia.

    I guess collective punishment of the whole group for the actions of a few is acceptable in one case, but not for the latter…

    • Webb

      Good catch.

    • mulegino1 .

      The difference being, of course, that the Jews in Europe have always been an itinerant people known to behave in a way which generates the animosity of their host populations, usually by tax farming and loan sharking. In more modern times, their activities- such as being dominant in popular entertainment and the media- have tended to foster societal corruption.
      Of course, this does not apply to all, or even the majority of Jewish people but to organized Jewry itself. Wherever Jews gather in great numbers they tend to generate hostility to themselves.
      As Bernard Lazare, the Jewish author of “Antisemitism: Its History and Causes” candidly pointed out: the primary (if not the only) cause of anti-Jewish sentiment is Jewish behavior itself.

      • UCSPanther

        Excuses, excuses.

        Keep ‘em coming.

        • Webb

          And with that, you shut mulegina (I like Screw Socialism’s name for him better) the F up! More than likely, muley and that little seig heiling Nikky are on the same staff of trolls.

        • mulegino1 .

          “Wherever the Jews settled after ceasing to be a nation ready to defend its liberty and independence, one observes the development of antisemitism, or rather anti-Judaism; for antisemitism is an ill chosen word, which has its raison d’être only in our day, when it is sought to broaden this strife between the Jew and the Christians by supplying it with a philosophy and a metaphysical, rather than a material reason. If this hostility, this repugnance had been shown towards the Jews at one time or in one country only, it would be easy to account for the local causes of this sentiment. But this race has been the object of hatred with all the nations amidst whom it ever settled.
          Inasmuch as the enemies of the Jews belonged to divers races, as they dwelled far apart from one another, were ruled by different laws and governed by opposite principles; as they had not the same customs and differed in spirit from one another, so that they could not possibly judge alike of any subject, it must needs be that the general causes of antisemitism have always resided in Israel itself, and not in those who antagonized it.”

          Bernard Lazare, “Antisemitism: Its History and Causes”
          Chapter 1

      • Webb

        I love the sound of Jew haters moaning in the morning! Music to my ears. Cry louder, O mulegina! Cry louder. Har har har!

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Success bred contempt by the unsuccessful.

        Now you have Muslim masters to put you in your place – at their feet.

        Eurabia, your time has come.

  • mulegino1 .

    Britain wanted war against Germany in large part because of its traditional balance of power continental strategy, which was always to back the second strongest nation in Europe against the strongest- just as in the First World War. A Europe dominated by one powerful nation was a threat to the British Empire,
    Hitler made NUMEROUS disarmament proposals to the British and French, who started their own rearmament campaigns well before the Third Reich did. Germany had a naval agreement with Britain and had signed a non-aggression pact with Poland in 1935- both of which were abrogated by the British guarantee to Poland of April, 1939.

    • reader

      The Bolsheviks began assisting Reichswehr and later Wehrmacht to rearm in violation of Versailles Treaty starting with Rapallo Agreement in 1922. That’s well before even Mein Kampf had been written. It had been Lenin who had declared the nullification of Versaiiles Treaty as his goal in 1920 – well before the world even heard of Hitler. The French and the British had absolutely no stomach for anything but status quo.

      • mulegino1 .

        Of course the Bolsheviks helped the Reichswehr; they needed foreign currency. The Bolsheviks could have cared less about the legality of a treaty that they had nothing to do with.
        The suburban Paris “peace treaties” (Versailles, St. Germain and Trianon) were disastrous examples of victor’s justice and ultimately unworkable, as we saw once again with the inevitable, recent disintegration of Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia.
        Do you think that Hitler was the only German or Austrian opposed to the Versailles regime? Virtually all or most of the Weimar governments had made the recovery of the Polish corridor and Danzig a primary foreign policy objective. Hitler was the first to modify this policy when he made conciliatory gestures to Marshal Pilsudski, which led to the 1935 non-aggression treaty (abrogated by the Polish acceptance of the British guarantee in 1939).

        • reader

          “The Bolsheviks could have cared less about the legality of a treaty that they had nothing to do with.”

          Obviously, you don’t comprehend what I wrote, which is that Lenin made it the strategic goal of the Bolshevik government to overturn this Treaty – in order to spark the next world war in perfect adherence to Marx’s postulate articulated in the Manifesto. Lenin made this pronouncement in 1920 during the Party Conference. It’s documented. The part about needing currency is insanely idiotic. The Bolsheviks sold enormous amounts of gold, treasure and art to finance the militarization of the USSR and Germany.

          • reader

            Here’s the pertinent exerts from Lenin’s speech:

            “We’ve been unable to achieve the decisive military victory that would destroy Versailles peace. We would have broken Versailles Treaty by the global triumphant imperialism in front of us, but we were too weak to make it done. Our basic policy remains the same. We are using every occasion to transition from defence to offense. We’ve already cracked Versailles Treaty, and we will rip it apart at the first available opportunity.” (Lenin’s on the war with Poland and the support of the world revolution; Ninth Conference of the Russian Communist Party of the Bolsheviks in 1920; Historic Archive, 1992, Issue 1, pages 12-30)

          • mulegino1 .

            “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United, States, but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type, who have been in the United States and there absorbed every one of the worst phases of our civilization without having the least understanding of what we really mean by liberty.” –Captain Montgomery Schuyler, American Expeditionary Forces Siberia, Intelligence Section

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The US is doing well, much better than socialist Eurabia.

            Your welfare state that props up millions of invading Muslims will be the death of you.

          • mulegino1 .

            Of course they needed huge foreign reserves; and the art they sold was almost all stolen from the Russian Orthodox Church. It’s odd that that aspect of the “Russian Revolution” (about as Russian as King Kamehameha) is virtually forgotten.
            It is hardly a secret that the Bolsheviks wanted a war between the capitalist nations which they would exploit to pursue world revolution.
            This is exactly what Stalin achieved with the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact- with the unexpected result that Germany conquered France and drove the BEF off the continent in a matter of months. Stalin was hoping for a long war of attrition while he prepared his invasion of Europe.

          • reader

            And what does it have to do with the French or the British exactly. And how did you figure the Bolsheviks get the currency for assisting the Germans to rearm exactly? The Germans, who could hardly keep up with the reparation payments and sank into hyperinflation?

          • mulegino1 .

            Do you think that the 85% Jewish Bolshevik government just gave away the military hardware for free?

          • reader

            They did not give away any hardware, nit wit. They provided the Reichswehr with facilities to develop the weapons and the tactics. And yes, the Bolsheviks paid for it. Now, about the Jewishness. The original Sovnarkom government had 18 members. Only one of those 18 (Trotsky) was listed as Jewish. Let me count: that’s like 5.5%. You’re off by almost 80%. Obviously you’re not good at math. Maybe that’s why you hate the Jews.

          • mulegino1 .

            Okay, training areas. Same thing.

            As for your nonsensical claim of 5.5% Jewish composition of the first Bolshevik government::

            CENTRAL COMMITTEE:

            Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew

            Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew

            Lourie(Larine) Jew

            Ouritski Jew

            Volodarski Jew

            Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) Jew

            Smidovitch Jew

            Sverdlof (Yankel) Jew

            Nakhamkes (Steklof) Jew

            Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian

            Krylenko Russian

            LounatcharskI RussiaN

            And that’s just the second committee (9 out of 12 from a demographic that represented 2% of the Russian Empire- not to mention that Lenin was at least 1/4 Jewish and spoke Yiddish and his wife, Krupskaya, was a Jew.)

          • reader

            The Bolshevik Government was called Sovnarkom, dufus:

            http://alphahistory.com/russianrevolution/soviet-government/

            The first Sovnarkom members were Lenin (Russian); Gorbunov (Russian); Milyutin (Russian); Antonov-Evseenko (Ukrainian); Krylenko (Russian); Dybenko (Ukrainian); Nogin (Russian); Lunacharsky (Russian); Teodorovich (Russian); Trotsky (Jewish); Rykov (Russian); Oppokov (Russian); Shliapnikov (Russian); Stalin (Georgian); Glebov-Avolov (Russian); Skvortsov-Stepanov (Russian); Chicherin (Russian); Kollontai (Russian).

          • mulegino1 .

            Nice try: the Councils of People’s Commissars was where the power resided, and it’s overwhelmingly Jewish, from the Central Committee on down.
            You know, as did Winston Churchill, American Intelligence, and Alexander Solzhenitsyn, and most of the others in the know, that the Bolshevik Revolution and its aftermath was one of the most kosher projects in history, and the scale of mass murder and state sponsored oppression it was responsible for dwarfed anything realistically imputed to the Third Reich by orders of magnitude.
            You people are simply unable to admit to any collective responsibility whatsoever. You jump with the regularity of a jack in the box to claim collective achievement- “Nobel Prize!” (as H.L. Mencken described your tribal affectation for puerile baubles), but you simply refuse to acknowledge collective responsibility, with which you gladly saddle others, as in “Holohoax reparations”, which is merely a kind of blood libel in reverse.
            The whole world is onto to your kosher bag of tricks!

          • UCSPanther

            “The whole world is onto to your kosher bag of tricks!”

            And people like have been repeating that meme for a long time…

          • mulegino1 .

            Look, I don’t have anything against individual Jews at all. But really, when the most murderous regime in the history of Europe is composed of 85% Jews at the top when Jews represented only 2% of the population of the Russian Empire, don’t you think that a little tribal remorse is called for? After all, Christian Europeans are always apologizing!

          • UCSPanther

            Just give it up. Your excuses mean nothing to me.

          • mulegino1 .

            Okay, your whining tribal litigiousness means nothing to me then.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Your klannishness will be the death of you.

            Not that it’s a bad thing.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Socialist Eurabia is in a death spiral.

            Maybe the coming civil war in Eurabia will be an opportunity to cleanse it of socialism and its Islamist puppets.

          • reader

            I can only surmise that you’re siting talking points you were given by your revolutionary guard corporal. They’re as coherent as an algerian donkey with a przhevalsky horse’s *ss.

          • mulegino1 .

            You seem unable to realize that the interpretation of historical events can vary widely as new information becomes available. Did you know that the United States government knew about the secret protocol (the division of Poland into German and Soviet Zones) of the Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement? Why did they fail to notify the Polish government, which almost certainly would have thought twice about Hitler’s relatively reasonable proposals for Danzig and the Corridor, instead of recklessly ordering general mobilization. It is a certainty that FDR wanted a war against Germany. He tried his damndest with his naval provocations in the Atlantic, but eventually had to settle on provoking Japan into firing the first shot- war through the backdoor.

            Just the other day, Vladimir Putin reminded Russian Jews that the first Soviet government was indeed, 85% Jewish. Of course, now Putin is the new Hitler, just like Assad was, and Ahmadinejad before him, and Saddam before him, and Milosevic, and Gaddafi and…well, you get the picture. For the neocons, every year is 1938 and every perceived threat to NATO, the US, Israel, and just as importantly, to the interests of transnational corporations under their protective umbrella.
            If Hitler did not exist, it would have been necessary to invent him. He is as useful to the corporate oligarchs as Emmanuel Goldstein was to Big Brother.

          • mulegino1 .

            “… The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.

            Terrorist Jews

            There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution, by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews, it is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel (Petrograd) or of Krassin or Radek — all Jews. In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all these countries there are many non-Jews every whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing.”

            Winston Churchill

            Communism (international socialism) is as kosher as gefilte fish or sour cream and bagels.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Odd that the US has surpassed Russia and the rest of jealous socialist failure Europe.

          • reader

            Krasin was Jewish too, huh? You know, there’re rumors that Hitler and Ahmadinejad were too. I bet you are Jew too. Your friends could whack you any time, as soon as they find out. Good luck with that.

          • mulegino1 .

            Again:

            The Soviet government, or “Council of People’s Commissars’ (also known as the “Sovnarkom”) was made up of the following: Peoples Commissariat (Ministry) Name Nationality Chairman V.I. Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian Foreign Affairs G.V. Chicherin Russian Nationalities J. Dzhugashvili [Stalin] Georgian Agriculture Protian Armenian Economic Council Lourie (Larin) Jew Food Supply A.G. Schlikhter Jew Army and Navy [Military] L.D. Bronstein (Trotski) Jew State Control K.I. Lander Jew State Lands Kaufmann Jew Works [Labor] V. Schmidt Jew Social Relief E. Lilina (Knigissen) Jew Education A. Lunacharsky Russian Religion Spitzberg Jew Interior Apfelbaum [Radomyslski] (Zinoviev) Jew .Hygiene Anvelt Jew Finance I. E. Gukovs [and G. Sokolnikov] Jew Press Voldarski [Goldstein] Jew Elections M.S. Uritsky Jew Justice I.Z. Shteinberg Jew Refugees Fenigstein Jew Refugees Savitch (Assistant) Jew Refugees Zaslovski (Assistant) Jew Out of these 22 “Sovnarkom” members, Wilton summed’up, there were three Russians, one Georgian, one Armenian, and 17 Jews. The Central Executive Committee, Wilton continues, was made up of the following members: Y. M. Sverdlov [Solomon] (Chairman) Jew Avanesov (Secretary) Armenian Bruno Latvian Breslau Latvian [?] Babtchinski Jew N. I. Bukharin Russian Weinberg Jew Gailiss Jew Ganzberg [Ganzburg ] Jew Danichevski Jew Starck German Sachs Jew Scheinmann Jew Erdling Jew Landauer Jew Linder Jew Wolach Czech S. Dimanshtein Jew Encukidze Georgian Ermann Jew A. A. Ioffe Jew Karkhline Jew Knigissen Jew Rosenfeld (Kamenev) Jew Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) Jew N. Krylenko Russian Krassikov Jew Kaprik Jew Kaoul Latvian Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian Latsis Jew Lander Jew Lunacharsky Russian Peterson Latvian Peters Latvian Roudzoutas Jew Rosine Jew Smidovitch Jew Stoutchka Latvian Nakhamkes (Steklov) Jew Sosnovski Jew Skrytnik Jew L. Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew Teodorovitch Jew [?] Terian Armenian Uritsky Jew Telechkine Russian Feldmann Jew Fromkin Jew Souriupa Ukrainian Tchavtchevadze Georgian Scheikmann Jew Rosental Jew Achkinazi Imeretian [?] Karakhane Karaim [Karaite] Rose Jew Sobelson (Radek) Jew Schlichter Jew Schikolini Jew Chklianski Jew Levine-(Pravdine) Jew Thus, concluded Wilton, out of 61 members, five were Russians, six were Latvians, one was a German, two were Armenians, one was a Czech, one was an Imeretian, two were Georgians, one was a Karaim, one. was a Ukrainian, and 41 were Jews. The Extraordinary Commission of Moscow (Cheka) ‘the Soviet secret police and predecessor of the GPU, the NKVD and the KGB was made up of the following: F. Dzerzhinsky (Chairman) Pole Y. Peters (Deputy Chairman) Latvian Chklovski Jew Kheifiss Jew Zeistine Jew Razmirovitch Jew Kronberg Jew Khaikina Jew Karlson Latvian Schaumann Latvian Leontovitch Jew Jacob Goldine Jew Galperstein Jew Kniggisen Jew Katzis Latvian Schillenkuss Jew Janson Latvian Rivkine Jew Antonof Russian Delafabre Jew Tsitkine Jew Roskirovitch Jew G. Sverdlov (Brother of president of the Central Executive Committee) Jew Biesenski Jew J. Blumkin (Count Mirbach’s assassin) Jew Alexandrovitch (Blumkin’s accomplice) Russian I. Model Jew Routenberg Jew Pines Jew Sachs Jew Daybol Latvian Saissoune Armenian Deylkenen Latvian Liebert Jew Vogel German Zakiss Latvian Of these 36 Cheka officials, one was a Pole, one a German, one an Armenian, two were Russians, eight were Latvians, and 23 were Jews.

          • Nicholas I

            Lenin was a k***mason

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            nicholouse was a slav fascist who abused the people and got what was coming to him and his family.

            If nicholouse was a decent ruler, like the Kings and Queens of England, he would have survived.

            But he died for his sins against the people of Russia.

          • mulegino1 .

            True, as was Trotsky, who I believe was a B’Nai B’rith Freemason.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            And that’s why Russia supports… Israel?

            Oh. Russia supports Egypt, Syria.

            You have the brain of a muleGINA.

    • Nicholas I

      Also, scum like Churchill were hos for The Jew.

      • mulegino1 .

        True. Even FDR, his erstwhile ally, called him “that drunken bum.”
        The Jewish FOCUS group won Churchill to the pro-war camp by paying off his personal debt, which had accumulated to quite a sizable sum.
        It was under Churchill that the British initiated the deliberate terror bombing of cities- in effect, the Lindenmann Plan- whose aim was to kill as many innocent civilians as possible in order to demoralize the German population (it had precisely the opposite effect).
        The Luftwaffe was not designed for such terror bombing as it had only fighters and light bombers, and was designed for support of tactical support of combat operations and logistics.
        The Germans only began the “Blitz” on London after three months of attacks on German cities by the British and repeated warnings from Hitler to desist or face retaliation in kind.
        This is the same pro-war drunk who sold out Poland at Yalta.

        • Nicholas I

          BTW. I’m now banned at Breitbartstein, Amerikwan Renaissaince of the Synagogue of Satan, Fox, Radix, Alternative Right, etc etc etc. It’s funny I can still, for now, comment at this filthy k***-site.

          • UCSPanther

            I’ll give you hand in adding Frontpagemag to that list, you foulmouthed moron.

          • Nicholas I

            Big deal. It’s a shlte k***site anyway. boring. even the standard of hasbara around here is cr@p.

          • UCSPanther

            There’s the door, pal. Use it.

          • Nicholas I

            “pal” ? “buddy” ?- u trained at the hasbara shack by watching 1940 hollyjewed G.I. flicks?

          • UCSPanther

            Yep. Stupid, foulmouthed and immature.

            This is a Conservative, Pro-Israel, Pro-Jewish website. You aren’t gonna get any traction or validation here.

          • Nicholas I

            A real whore-house, eh?

          • UCSPanther

            You are one sad and pathetic individual, and you are too stupid to realize it.

            I smell the reek of failure at life about you, and It is a sure bet you will die alone.

          • Nicholas I

            Whatever. We all die, Hymie. At least I’m not a k***.

          • UCSPanther

            You may not be one, but you are still a moron.

            Better to be a “—-” than a dim-witted bigot with a bloated ego.

          • Nicholas I

            Hitler will be honoured and praised, and the jew-state in Palestine will be cursed as a disgustingly bad memory.

          • UCSPanther

            Palestine won’t last the 21st century, troll.

          • Nicholas I

            That’s not what I said, jewboy.

          • UCSPanther

            Nope, that’s exactly what you said.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            SHlTler is praised by failures and angry islamofascist loozers – who when they can’t kill JOOOZ, they kill each other as in Syria – 190,000+ dead.

            Say Hi to tzar nicky in H E L L.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Anastasia, still upset that your tzar got offed?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I hate to burst your bubble, but your side LOST WW2.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv8oqdJyqhw

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Stick around sack of SHlTler, You make a great punching bag.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Socialist filth, you didn’t like Winston Churchill?

        You prefer SHlTler? How about Osama Bin Laden? What about Arafart?

        Different strokes for different folks.

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    BOW to America mulegina.

    Your Euro is worthless. Your EU is falling apart. Eurabia is on edge because Islamists are getting bold and imposing their “law” on you – and your lap it up like a slave.

  • mulegino1 .

    These quotations are not from “Nazi” sites.

    The Churchill bit was from an article written by him in the Illustrated Sunday Herald, February 8, 1920, page 5.

    It’s quite obvious that the Bolshevik Revolution in particular, and the wider worldwide Communist movement were directed largely by Jews- such as Bela Kun in Hungary, Ana Pauker in Romania, Kurt Eisner and Rosa Luxembourg in Germany, etc.