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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2014 05:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;That latter piece is probably the analysis you are talking about.&quot;

Obviously I&#039;m talking about where judgment of human actors is called for. You can have a higher degree of confidence about where certain tanks might be stored and how they&#039;ll be called up (lower level troops don&#039;t have a lot of autonomy) but you won&#039;t know what Khrushchev is going to do if Kennedy calls his bluff or vice versa. And there are shades in between and nonmilitary applications of course.


&quot;You seem to be making assumptions about our assumptions, so to speak.&quot;

You lost me. It was never my theory that your political bias hurt your military work. My theory is that it hurts you as an academic that puts too much trust in institutions that are not demonized by the neo-Marxists. When I push you it seems that you understand in theory that all institutions are subject to forces of human imperfection but as you comment you seem to place too much confidence in the idealized version of what for example the UN can and should try to accomplish, how much influence academics should have, how much independence (wall of separation, not just material independence) from government academies should have and so forth.


IOW you seem biased on where human fallibility can cause problems. It does not seem proportional when compared to what I&#039;ve learned.  You&#039;re willing to say that &quot;capitalism&quot; is innately corrupt but it&#039;s OK if the US Federal Government grows huge because we have a constitution...no biggie. You&#039;re not aware of the growing problems with shifts in &quot;loci of power&quot; as you once termed it, excdept you know it&#039;s a problem with corporations. Is that not what you expressed to me? We have robust antitrust laws to govern powerful corporations. Our robust infrastructure for taming the Federal government is crumbling with nothing to replace it but a bunch of liars telling us this is progress. Because they say so.

&quot;It hasn&#039;t been my experience that people writ large respond rationally to any sort of input; I don&#039;t worry particularly about Russian or Chinese propaganda techniques.&quot;



We (humans) are always &quot;irrational&quot; and we learn how to use &quot;tools&quot; to straighten out what we have. Humans and all creatures are &quot;irrational&quot; and some learn to use tools to  strive to come up with rational explanations and answers. Some times not very well. 


That is why it is CRITICAL to figure out when the tools are themselves biased. If you don&#039;t know the difference between true and magnetic north. That kind of thing. You might come up with reliable but incorrect results.


The Russians and the Chinese would LOVE for us to get overly concerned about anything that can cause us to make mistakes governing energy use and our economy.  Makes sense that our rivals would love to see us shrink, especially when they benefit directly in so many ways by that shrinkage. We start turning away oil, our costs go up and theres don&#039;t just go down in relative terms but in absolute terms. Everyone gains form our losses. 


Being sugar daddy to the world is OK as long as you don&#039;t let the clients outsmart you. And they have been. As a nation, we&#039;re extremely naive. We&#039;re not the big problem causer in the world. We&#039;re a positive role model. We cause problems that we should work on, but not using idiotic narratives fed to us by our enemies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That latter piece is probably the analysis you are talking about.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obviously I&#8217;m talking about where judgment of human actors is called for. You can have a higher degree of confidence about where certain tanks might be stored and how they&#8217;ll be called up (lower level troops don&#8217;t have a lot of autonomy) but you won&#8217;t know what Khrushchev is going to do if Kennedy calls his bluff or vice versa. And there are shades in between and nonmilitary applications of course.</p>
<p>&#8220;You seem to be making assumptions about our assumptions, so to speak.&#8221;</p>
<p>You lost me. It was never my theory that your political bias hurt your military work. My theory is that it hurts you as an academic that puts too much trust in institutions that are not demonized by the neo-Marxists. When I push you it seems that you understand in theory that all institutions are subject to forces of human imperfection but as you comment you seem to place too much confidence in the idealized version of what for example the UN can and should try to accomplish, how much influence academics should have, how much independence (wall of separation, not just material independence) from government academies should have and so forth.</p>
<p>IOW you seem biased on where human fallibility can cause problems. It does not seem proportional when compared to what I&#8217;ve learned.  You&#8217;re willing to say that &#8220;capitalism&#8221; is innately corrupt but it&#8217;s OK if the US Federal Government grows huge because we have a constitution&#8230;no biggie. You&#8217;re not aware of the growing problems with shifts in &#8220;loci of power&#8221; as you once termed it, excdept you know it&#8217;s a problem with corporations. Is that not what you expressed to me? We have robust antitrust laws to govern powerful corporations. Our robust infrastructure for taming the Federal government is crumbling with nothing to replace it but a bunch of liars telling us this is progress. Because they say so.</p>
<p>&#8220;It hasn&#8217;t been my experience that people writ large respond rationally to any sort of input; I don&#8217;t worry particularly about Russian or Chinese propaganda techniques.&#8221;</p>
<p>We (humans) are always &#8220;irrational&#8221; and we learn how to use &#8220;tools&#8221; to straighten out what we have. Humans and all creatures are &#8220;irrational&#8221; and some learn to use tools to  strive to come up with rational explanations and answers. Some times not very well. </p>
<p>That is why it is CRITICAL to figure out when the tools are themselves biased. If you don&#8217;t know the difference between true and magnetic north. That kind of thing. You might come up with reliable but incorrect results.</p>
<p>The Russians and the Chinese would LOVE for us to get overly concerned about anything that can cause us to make mistakes governing energy use and our economy.  Makes sense that our rivals would love to see us shrink, especially when they benefit directly in so many ways by that shrinkage. We start turning away oil, our costs go up and theres don&#8217;t just go down in relative terms but in absolute terms. Everyone gains form our losses. </p>
<p>Being sugar daddy to the world is OK as long as you don&#8217;t let the clients outsmart you. And they have been. As a nation, we&#8217;re extremely naive. We&#8217;re not the big problem causer in the world. We&#8217;re a positive role model. We cause problems that we should work on, but not using idiotic narratives fed to us by our enemies.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that some role players won&#039;t be effected by that kind of propaganda. But other analysts  would be. 

&quot;Of course, Mssrs Horowitz and Greenfield are openly engaged in propaganda; do you worry about the extent to which they have accurately read your biases to manipulate your thoughts?&quot;





Yes and no. I&#039;m always trying to adjust for bias. Taking conscious steps to do that builds confidence over time. But that doesn&#039;t mean one should ever stop the process.


As far as Horowitz and Greenfield, they&#039;re not trying to foment a worldwide revolution based on Utopian notions of the future. If you read the articles consistently you see that they&#039;re open about their agenda.  My sense is that they don&#039;t even like the fact that they have to get down in the trenches and &quot;get nasty&quot; with leftists. I don&#039;t agree with every aspect of their tactics but I do agree with most of their goals. I can criticize them and realize that I might be wrong. I&#039;m not that savvy as a political operative plotting how to win consensus other than just talking openly about the issues. Obviously it takes more than that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that some role players won&#8217;t be effected by that kind of propaganda. But other analysts  would be. </p>
<p>&#8220;Of course, Mssrs Horowitz and Greenfield are openly engaged in propaganda; do you worry about the extent to which they have accurately read your biases to manipulate your thoughts?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes and no. I&#8217;m always trying to adjust for bias. Taking conscious steps to do that builds confidence over time. But that doesn&#8217;t mean one should ever stop the process.</p>
<p>As far as Horowitz and Greenfield, they&#8217;re not trying to foment a worldwide revolution based on Utopian notions of the future. If you read the articles consistently you see that they&#8217;re open about their agenda.  My sense is that they don&#8217;t even like the fact that they have to get down in the trenches and &#8220;get nasty&#8221; with leftists. I don&#8217;t agree with every aspect of their tactics but I do agree with most of their goals. I can criticize them and realize that I might be wrong. I&#8217;m not that savvy as a political operative plotting how to win consensus other than just talking openly about the issues. Obviously it takes more than that.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If for example you believe that Maslow&#039;s hierarchy is a very powerful explanation for how humans behave, that belief can be exploited.&quot;

If that&#039;s what he meant, it&#039;s no great insight.  Any consistent worldview can be &#039;exploited&#039; in that sense.  When applied to military intelligence, it can be exploited only to the degree that the analyst has not absorbed the elementary dictum that one should not project one&#039;s own way of thinking on an enemy.  A good deal of the profession consists in escaping the thought process &quot;If I would not do X in situation Y, the enemy would not do X, either.&quot; 

And, of course, we&#039;re still conducting the conversation at an elementary level, as if &#039;intelligence analysis&#039; were one homogeneous task.  That&#039;s nonsense, of course.  

&quot;Not that you&#039;re a robot, but you&#039;re trained to follow certain analytical frameworks. Those will be known to our enemies.&quot;

What analytical frameworks were we trained to follow?  There are technical frameworks, of course.  There&#039;s an intelligence cycle that, broadly speaking, consists of differentiating between what we know and what we don&#039;t, assessing what sorts of capabilities we have for filling in the gaps, tasking those capabilities, then piecing together the information stream resulting from those taskings.  That latter piece is probably the analysis you are talking about.   You seem to be making assumptions about our assumptions, so to speak.

This, by the way, is one of the reasons I ask him what his actual experience in intelligence analysis is.

&quot;But seriously, doesn&#039;t it worry you even a little that Putin and the Chinese know how to manipulate so many people with propaganda campaigns?&quot;



It hasn&#039;t been my experience that people writ large respond rationally to any sort of input; I don&#039;t worry particularly about Russian or Chinese propaganda techniques.  


Of course, Mssrs Horowitz and Greenfield are openly engaged in propaganda; do you worry about the extent to which they have accurately read your biases to manipulate your thoughts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If for example you believe that Maslow&#8217;s hierarchy is a very powerful explanation for how humans behave, that belief can be exploited.&#8221;</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s what he meant, it&#8217;s no great insight.  Any consistent worldview can be &#8216;exploited&#8217; in that sense.  When applied to military intelligence, it can be exploited only to the degree that the analyst has not absorbed the elementary dictum that one should not project one&#8217;s own way of thinking on an enemy.  A good deal of the profession consists in escaping the thought process &#8220;If I would not do X in situation Y, the enemy would not do X, either.&#8221; </p>
<p>And, of course, we&#8217;re still conducting the conversation at an elementary level, as if &#8216;intelligence analysis&#8217; were one homogeneous task.  That&#8217;s nonsense, of course.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Not that you&#8217;re a robot, but you&#8217;re trained to follow certain analytical frameworks. Those will be known to our enemies.&#8221;</p>
<p>What analytical frameworks were we trained to follow?  There are technical frameworks, of course.  There&#8217;s an intelligence cycle that, broadly speaking, consists of differentiating between what we know and what we don&#8217;t, assessing what sorts of capabilities we have for filling in the gaps, tasking those capabilities, then piecing together the information stream resulting from those taskings.  That latter piece is probably the analysis you are talking about.   You seem to be making assumptions about our assumptions, so to speak.</p>
<p>This, by the way, is one of the reasons I ask him what his actual experience in intelligence analysis is.</p>
<p>&#8220;But seriously, doesn&#8217;t it worry you even a little that Putin and the Chinese know how to manipulate so many people with propaganda campaigns?&#8221;</p>
<p>It hasn&#8217;t been my experience that people writ large respond rationally to any sort of input; I don&#8217;t worry particularly about Russian or Chinese propaganda techniques.  </p>
<p>Of course, Mssrs Horowitz and Greenfield are openly engaged in propaganda; do you worry about the extent to which they have accurately read your biases to manipulate your thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 07:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think he&#039;s talking about biases of materialists, &quot;realists&quot; and so forth. If for example you believe that Maslow&#039;s hierarchy is a very powerful explanation for how humans behave, that belief can be exploited.

Not that you&#039;re a robot, but you&#039;re trained to follow certain analytical frameworks. Those will be known to our enemies. That knowledge can be used to deceive. Especially since we&#039;re generally a lot more open than our enemies.

&quot;They convince people to play &quot;All About That Bass&quot; until 600 million ears bleed. It&#039;s too horrible to contemplate.&quot;



I kind of get the joke but I might be missing a layer of it. Are you learning how to play the bass violin or bass guitar? Or do you suspect a communist plot to get one of your family members to drive you nuts with silly videos?


But seriously, doesn&#039;t it worry you even a little that Putin and the Chinese know how to manipulate so many people with propaganda campaigns? And that more than a few Jihadis have been trained to use the same kind of approach over the years?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he&#8217;s talking about biases of materialists, &#8220;realists&#8221; and so forth. If for example you believe that Maslow&#8217;s hierarchy is a very powerful explanation for how humans behave, that belief can be exploited.</p>
<p>Not that you&#8217;re a robot, but you&#8217;re trained to follow certain analytical frameworks. Those will be known to our enemies. That knowledge can be used to deceive. Especially since we&#8217;re generally a lot more open than our enemies.</p>
<p>&#8220;They convince people to play &#8220;All About That Bass&#8221; until 600 million ears bleed. It&#8217;s too horrible to contemplate.&#8221;</p>
<p>I kind of get the joke but I might be missing a layer of it. Are you learning how to play the bass violin or bass guitar? Or do you suspect a communist plot to get one of your family members to drive you nuts with silly videos?</p>
<p>But seriously, doesn&#8217;t it worry you even a little that Putin and the Chinese know how to manipulate so many people with propaganda campaigns? And that more than a few Jihadis have been trained to use the same kind of approach over the years?</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2014 18:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Does this trouble you as an analyst? That a cartoonist knows your biases and impulses and uses them as levers?&quot;

I had no idea I was so important to Mr. Trudeau that he would take the trouble to research my biases and impulses and use his national forum to target me.  Careful - you&#039;ll inflate my sense of importance, and &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; will send TB into another paroxysm of indignation.

&quot;I wonder what sophisticated terrorists do with this knowledge.&quot;



They convince people to play &quot;All About That Bass&quot; until 600 million ears bleed.  It&#039;s too horrible to contemplate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Does this trouble you as an analyst? That a cartoonist knows your biases and impulses and uses them as levers?&#8221;</p>
<p>I had no idea I was so important to Mr. Trudeau that he would take the trouble to research my biases and impulses and use his national forum to target me.  Careful &#8211; you&#8217;ll inflate my sense of importance, and <i>that</i> will send TB into another paroxysm of indignation.</p>
<p>&#8220;I wonder what sophisticated terrorists do with this knowledge.&#8221;</p>
<p>They convince people to play &#8220;All About That Bass&#8221; until 600 million ears bleed.  It&#8217;s too horrible to contemplate.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we followed Gods laws on other issues, this would automatically fall in line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we followed Gods laws on other issues, this would automatically fall in line.</p>
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		<title>By: Zed Power</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zed Power]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama surrenders and the invasion is complete. Thank God that liberals have agree to give all their worldly possessions to the foreign criminals so we honest tax payers won&#039;t have to foot the bill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama surrenders and the invasion is complete. Thank God that liberals have agree to give all their worldly possessions to the foreign criminals so we honest tax payers won&#8217;t have to foot the bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Cleveland</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angela Cleveland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2014 20:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have sent this off. I hope it helps. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have sent this off. I hope it helps. </p>
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		<title>By: quillerm</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AP, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, HUFFINGTON POST, etc., are Obama&#039;s &#039;Gruber&#039;s of the News Media. They help him deceive, as Gruber stated, &#039;stupid&#039; American people on issues like Immigration, Global Warming, etc. Chuck Todd is just another dim wit liberal that thinks we are to stupid to figure out that Obama is a pathological liar. His claims of not knowing Mr. Gruber were destroyed by FOX News that immediately produced videos of Obama claiming to have stolen ideas from, Guess who? Mr Gruber. NBC and others just ignored the story hoping that suppression of the news will keep the uninformed stupid masses in democrat control.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AP, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, HUFFINGTON POST, etc., are Obama&#8217;s &#8216;Gruber&#8217;s of the News Media. They help him deceive, as Gruber stated, &#8216;stupid&#8217; American people on issues like Immigration, Global Warming, etc. Chuck Todd is just another dim wit liberal that thinks we are to stupid to figure out that Obama is a pathological liar. His claims of not knowing Mr. Gruber were destroyed by FOX News that immediately produced videos of Obama claiming to have stolen ideas from, Guess who? Mr Gruber. NBC and others just ignored the story hoping that suppression of the news will keep the uninformed stupid masses in democrat control.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Cleveland</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angela Cleveland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you thought about starting one of those petitions with this?  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you thought about starting one of those petitions with this?  </p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for taking the time to respond.  It&#039;s an interesting anecdote.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking the time to respond.  It&#8217;s an interesting anecdote.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Without access to any reliable information, there&#039;s really no basis for me to form an opinion.  

As for my &quot;style,&quot; whatever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without access to any reliable information, there&#8217;s really no basis for me to form an opinion.  </p>
<p>As for my &#8220;style,&#8221; whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Knight]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No. As with most of my comments my source is ... me. And I know about the Russians because they came here under a contract with one of my then clients.  To be blunt, I&#039;ve probably said too much. But it&#039;s very frustrating seeing the country getting squirreled in the shadows, and no one knows about it. 

Meanwhile, when I was doing pro-bono work back 07-08, we had pipeline of victims coming in from all sorts of criminals. My Liberal colleagues of course thought something should be done, and would be done ... if only the Great Leader of the Socialist Utopia would stop the Conservatives. But it wasn&#039;t any sort of conservatives beating the children or raping the women. Even if conservatives were the monsters who did such things, they wouldn&#039;t get away with it. ... And when conservatives do do such things, they don&#039;t get away with it. It&#039;s often all over the papers and TV. I&#039;ve never had a Russian pimp or drug dealer in my office, but I&#039;ve seen several of their victims. It&#039;s actually kind of rare: the clients were about half Latin, a third white, and a smattering of everything else you can find in the Dallas area. 

PS; technically, I&#039;m not sure if the Russians are Russians. They&#039;re from Belarus. They&#039;re all back in Minsk now. The two I know well said that almost everyone is working, and they&#039;re getting by there, but since the economy in Belarus sucks eggs, it&#039;s not easy going. I count them as Russians since Russian is what they speak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. As with most of my comments my source is &#8230; me. And I know about the Russians because they came here under a contract with one of my then clients.  To be blunt, I&#8217;ve probably said too much. But it&#8217;s very frustrating seeing the country getting squirreled in the shadows, and no one knows about it. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, when I was doing pro-bono work back 07-08, we had pipeline of victims coming in from all sorts of criminals. My Liberal colleagues of course thought something should be done, and would be done &#8230; if only the Great Leader of the Socialist Utopia would stop the Conservatives. But it wasn&#8217;t any sort of conservatives beating the children or raping the women. Even if conservatives were the monsters who did such things, they wouldn&#8217;t get away with it. &#8230; And when conservatives do do such things, they don&#8217;t get away with it. It&#8217;s often all over the papers and TV. I&#8217;ve never had a Russian pimp or drug dealer in my office, but I&#8217;ve seen several of their victims. It&#8217;s actually kind of rare: the clients were about half Latin, a third white, and a smattering of everything else you can find in the Dallas area. </p>
<p>PS; technically, I&#8217;m not sure if the Russians are Russians. They&#8217;re from Belarus. They&#8217;re all back in Minsk now. The two I know well said that almost everyone is working, and they&#8217;re getting by there, but since the economy in Belarus sucks eggs, it&#8217;s not easy going. I count them as Russians since Russian is what they speak.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think it made the news because I don&#039;t think all 29 were deported in one fell swoop, they were not spies or alleged spies, or the story is not true.

I don&#039;t know.  What I know of human and organizational behaviour, it fits.

All I could find was this.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-14/microsoft-says-12th-alleged-russian-spy-worked-at-its-redmond-headquarters.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Microsoft Says 12th Alleged Russian Spy Was Employee&lt;/a&gt;

I don&#039;t think Dan will give you anything.  ... something about your style]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it made the news because I don&#8217;t think all 29 were deported in one fell swoop, they were not spies or alleged spies, or the story is not true.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know.  What I know of human and organizational behaviour, it fits.</p>
<p>All I could find was this.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-14/microsoft-says-12th-alleged-russian-spy-worked-at-its-redmond-headquarters.html" rel="nofollow">Microsoft Says 12th Alleged Russian Spy Was Employee</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Dan will give you anything.  &#8230; something about your style</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2014 11:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to learn more about these Russians.  Do you have a link to an article about them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to learn more about these Russians.  Do you have a link to an article about them?</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2014 05:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How is it tough luck for her?  The modal auxiliary indicated the subjunctive mood.  Ayn is dead and cannot actually disapprove of you, so you are right not to fear that.  What should give you pause is the premium you are placing on pathos over reason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it tough luck for her?  The modal auxiliary indicated the subjunctive mood.  Ayn is dead and cannot actually disapprove of you, so you are right not to fear that.  What should give you pause is the premium you are placing on pathos over reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Knight]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2014 03:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, you are right. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you are right. </p>
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		<title>By: A Disqus User</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Disqus User]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2014 01:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plan for White geNOcide that “anti-racists” implement:

1) Flood EVERY &amp; ONLY White countries with MILLIONS of non-Whites

2) Force integrate these immigrants into White communities.  This is done with the aid of Federal Laws

3) Push interracial relationships night and day in the media &amp; newspaper

advertisements, in ONLY White countries

4) Anyone that objects is called the r-word!

5) Then, inform the Whites of their inevitable brown future

Anti-Racist is a code for anti-White]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plan for White geNOcide that “anti-racists” implement:</p>
<p>1) Flood EVERY &amp; ONLY White countries with MILLIONS of non-Whites</p>
<p>2) Force integrate these immigrants into White communities.  This is done with the aid of Federal Laws</p>
<p>3) Push interracial relationships night and day in the media &amp; newspaper</p>
<p>advertisements, in ONLY White countries</p>
<p>4) Anyone that objects is called the r-word!</p>
<p>5) Then, inform the Whites of their inevitable brown future</p>
<p>Anti-Racist is a code for anti-White</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Alan of Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregory Alan of Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2014 00:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doesn&#039;t the Board of Directors of USA inc, err, Congress have the &quot;power&quot; to vote-down EO&#039;s?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t the Board of Directors of USA inc, err, Congress have the &#8220;power&#8221; to vote-down EO&#8217;s?</p>
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		<title>By: Erudite Mavin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erudite Mavin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 23:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am sitting 15 miles north from the largest and busiest border crossing in the world, San Diego - Tijuana.

I know the reality.

The ones pushing Amnesty are the Democrats and Libertarians

such as Rand Paul, Koch brothers, tea party express, CATO Inst.

and the rest of that ilk.

Libertarian Ron Paul when in congress voted every time against bills  that would fence the border.

Libertarian Rand Paul

Immigration: Rand Paul to back path to citizenship

ASSOCIATED PRESS &#124; 3/18/13

WASHINGTON

— Republican Sen. Rand Paul said Tuesday that illegal immigrants should be allowed to become U.S. taxpayers and ultimately get a shot at citizenship, a significant step for the Tea Party favorite amid growing Republican acceptance
of the idea.

&quot;Let&#039;s start that conversation by acknowledging we aren&#039;t going to deport&quot; the millions already here, the potential 2016 presidential candidate told the U.S.
Hispanic Chamber of Commerce

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Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

By Rosalind S. Helderman, Published: March 19, 2013

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), a conservative tea party icon and possible 2016 presidential contender, endorsed an overhaul of the nation’s immigration laws that would allow the nation’s estimated 11 million illegal immigrants to obtain legalized
status

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06/12/2014

-

Rand Paul continues to mislead on immigration (amnesty,Bloomberg, Norquist)

Yesterday Sen. Rand Paul spoke on a conference call organized by Michael Bloomberg&#039;s Partnership
for a New American Economy and - together with Grover Norquist - promoted
comprehensive immigration reform (what most call &quot;amnesty&quot;).

Bloomberg, Democrat -- Norquist, Libertarian pro Islamic -- Rand Paul Libertarian, Isolationist

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Rand Paul: GOP must get ‘beyond deportation’

By: Katie Glueck April 1, 2014

Sen. Rand Paul on Tuesday argued the Republican Party needs to get &quot;beyond deportation&quot; in order to break through to Hispanic voters.

========================================================

Justin Amash supports pathway for citizenship for illegals as does

Charles Koch of the Koch Brothers and the CATO Inst.,

Tea Party Express and some of the other TP heads.,

FreedomWorks, and the list goes on.

Libertarian Ron Paul when in congress voted against every bill that would fence the border.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sitting 15 miles north from the largest and busiest border crossing in the world, San Diego &#8211; Tijuana.</p>
<p>I know the reality.</p>
<p>The ones pushing Amnesty are the Democrats and Libertarians</p>
<p>such as Rand Paul, Koch brothers, tea party express, CATO Inst.</p>
<p>and the rest of that ilk.</p>
<p>Libertarian Ron Paul when in congress voted every time against bills  that would fence the border.</p>
<p>Libertarian Rand Paul</p>
<p>Immigration: Rand Paul to back path to citizenship</p>
<p>ASSOCIATED PRESS | 3/18/13</p>
<p>WASHINGTON</p>
<p>— Republican Sen. Rand Paul said Tuesday that illegal immigrants should be allowed to become U.S. taxpayers and ultimately get a shot at citizenship, a significant step for the Tea Party favorite amid growing Republican acceptance<br />
of the idea.</p>
<p>&#8220;Let&#8217;s start that conversation by acknowledging we aren&#8217;t going to deport&#8221; the millions already here, the potential 2016 presidential candidate told the U.S.<br />
Hispanic Chamber of Commerce</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status</p>
<p>By Rosalind S. Helderman, Published: March 19, 2013</p>
<p>Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), a conservative tea party icon and possible 2016 presidential contender, endorsed an overhaul of the nation’s immigration laws that would allow the nation’s estimated 11 million illegal immigrants to obtain legalized<br />
status</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>06/12/2014</p>
<p>-</p>
<p>Rand Paul continues to mislead on immigration (amnesty,Bloomberg, Norquist)</p>
<p>Yesterday Sen. Rand Paul spoke on a conference call organized by Michael Bloomberg&#8217;s Partnership<br />
for a New American Economy and &#8211; together with Grover Norquist &#8211; promoted<br />
comprehensive immigration reform (what most call &#8220;amnesty&#8221;).</p>
<p>Bloomberg, Democrat &#8212; Norquist, Libertarian pro Islamic &#8212; Rand Paul Libertarian, Isolationist</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Rand Paul: GOP must get ‘beyond deportation’</p>
<p>By: Katie Glueck April 1, 2014</p>
<p>Sen. Rand Paul on Tuesday argued the Republican Party needs to get &#8220;beyond deportation&#8221; in order to break through to Hispanic voters.</p>
<p>========================================================</p>
<p>Justin Amash supports pathway for citizenship for illegals as does</p>
<p>Charles Koch of the Koch Brothers and the CATO Inst.,</p>
<p>Tea Party Express and some of the other TP heads.,</p>
<p>FreedomWorks, and the list goes on.</p>
<p>Libertarian Ron Paul when in congress voted against every bill that would fence the border.</p>
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