The Vatican Falls for the ‘Interfaith’ Scam

Ned May is the co-proprietor (along with his wife) of the Gates of Vienna blog, which focuses on Islam and the Great Jihad, particularly in Europe. Before taking up blogging he was a mathematician, a computer programmer and a landscape artist. In the last few years he has devoted his attention to assisting the development of counter-jihad networks in Europe. When he is not blogging, writing for Big Peace, or being an activist with the International Civil Liberties Alliance, he works as a book editor.


20140617_vatikanimame1402954514108On June 8, 2014 — Pentecost Sunday — the Vatican hosted an “interfaith event” that included prayers by Christian priests, a Jewish rabbi, and a Muslim imam. The occasion was well-publicized in advance by the Holy See as a “pause in politics” that would promote peace between the Israel and the Palestinians.

During his visit to Israel and the Palestinian Authority the previous month, Pope Francis had invited Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to attend the event. Both leaders accepted the invitation, and sat with the Pope while prayers were said and chanted in the Vatican garden.

The imam, however, went beyond the script that had been handed to the Vatican in advance. He included in his chanted prayer verses 284-286 of Sura 2 in the Koran, the last part of which calls for Allah to grant the Muslims victory over the infidels. His words were broadcast live to a television audience, but they were in Arabic, so most non-Muslim viewers had no idea what he had said.

This apparently included the Vatican hierarchy. When someone who did understand Arabic pointed out what had happened, a Vatican spokesman at first denied that any such thing had occurred. Those verses weren’t in the advance script — how could he possibly have said them? No Muslim, especially a respected imam, would ever go back on his word!

Later, when that story became untenable, the Vatican soft-pedaled the added text, saying that there was nothing really wrong with it. To further complicate matters, a doctored tape of the Arabic prayer was released in which the final part of verse 2:286 was edited out. It’s not clear who did the editing, but the altered version certainly did serve the interests of the Vatican.

With the help of Vlad Tepes, I was able to track down a complete video of the prayer from an Arabic television channel and then have it translated (by a volunteer who prefers to remain anonymous) and subtitled. As far as I can determine, the imam’s name was never made public, either by the Vatican or the English-language Arab news sites. I’m told he’s Palestinian, and his distinctive headgear identifies him as having the authoritative credentials of Al-Azhar University:

A German-speaking Jesuit priest, Fr. Felix Körner, made a valiant effort to demonstrate that 2:286 was in full accord with Christian doctrine, and was peaceful in intent. During an interview he said (translated from the German by Rembrandt Clancy):

“This verse, perhaps spontaneously selected by someone who then also recited the Koran from memory, actually fitted very well into the overall context of the Prayer for Peace! There are always three steps in the three religions: We recognise the Creator and praise Him, we recognise our guilt and confess it and we plead for the gift of peace. And all that comes out very beautifully in these three verses of the Koran.

[…]

“There is a certain parallel insofar as a quotation torn out of context is particularly easily misunderstood. And if one removes from the text only the reference to unbelievers, one can easily use it as a peg upon which to hang something and then say that an infringement has taken place here. On the other hand we have in this case a Koran recitation which pertains to someone who not only quotes, but recites, and who also says: what I am reciting here is also what I believe. And in the same breath he is also saying: We Muslims, as the Koran precisely tells us, recognise the other religions with their prophets. Therefore from the Muslim side, there was by no means any deprecation or exclusion intended or expressed. Rather it was said: We are bringing here a religious idea, one which welcomes and accepts you all, and naturally in certain Koranic way, tries to set things right again. But there was nothing here which was meant to exclude or rebuff; rather a Koran verse was recited, which is meant to express the highest respect and therefore can also be received as such.” [emphasis added]

But is this interpretation true? Does Islam really “recognize the other religions with their prophets”? Was there really no “deprecation or exclusion intended”?

It’s always unwise to trust a non-Muslim’s interpretations of Islamic scripture and law. Our political are always telling us what Islam means — witness Boris Johnson, David Cameron, and George W. Bush — with less than complete credibility. Now we have a Jesuit priest telling us what Islam does and does not mean.

It’s also unwise to trust a Muslim cleric or spokesman when he explains Islam to a non-Muslim audience. There are very clear reasons for this skepticism, based in the Koran and the hadith (the sayings of Mohammed) and all major interpretations of Islamic law that are derived from those.

So how do we understand what happened at the Vatican on Pentecost Sunday?

We begin with this: last November a well-meaning Pope Francis issued a papal declaration, Evangelii Gaudium, which said among other things that “our respect for true followers of Islam should lead us to avoid hateful generalisations, for authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Koran are opposed to every form of violence.”

Now we’re going to take the advice of Major (ret.) Stephen Coughlin, one of the foremost non-Muslim experts on Islamic law in the United States. If we want to understand Islamic law, Maj. Coughlin tells us: “You must read things written by Muslims who are recognized in the Muslim community as experts in the topic they are writing about, and who are writing for a Muslim audience. If you fail to do that, you are not doing your job.”

Therefore, to provide context for the momentous events of June 8, the following information is instructive. It is derived from ’Umdat al-salik wa ’uddat al-nasik, which is commonly referred to as Reliance of the Traveller when cited in English. This an authoritative source on Sunni Islamic law, because it is certified as such by Al-Azhar University in Cairo. There is no higher authority on Sunni Islamic doctrine than Al-Azhar; it is the closest equivalent to the Vatican that can be found in Islam.

Consider this passage from Reliance of the Traveller, chapter O, o9.0:

Jihad means to wage war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada, signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad.

[…]

The scriptural basis for jihad, prior to scholarly consensus is such Koranic verses as:

•Fighting is prescribed for you (Koran 2:216)

•Slay them wherever you find them (Koran 4:89)

•Fight the idolators utterly (Koran 9:36)

In o9.8, Reliance of the Traveller describes the objectives of jihad:

The caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4)… and the war continues until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax…

Now it becomes clear that — contrary to what Fr. Körner said — Islam does indeed deprecate and exclude other religions, specifically including Judaism and Christianity. This deprecation and exclusion goes so far as to mandate warfare against those religions.

We should also bear in mind what Islamic law says about lying. In Book R “Holding One’s Tongue,” §r8.0 “Lying” at r8.2 “Permissible Lying,” Reliance of the Traveller cites the iconic Islamic legal jurist Imam Abu Hamid Ghazali:

This is an explicit statement that lying is sometimes permissible for a given interest… When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible (N: i.e., when the purpose of lying is to circumvent someone who is preventing one from doing something permissible) and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory.

To sum up: according to an authoritative manual of Islamic law certified by Al-Azhar University — the same University that accredited the imam who prayed at the Vatican — the devout Muslim is obligated to make war against Christians and Jews until they convert to Islam, submit and pay the poll tax, or die.

Since this goal is obligatory, it is also obligatory for the devout Muslim to lie to Christians and Jews about what his religion means, and what it intends, if such lies help Islam achieve the final conquest.

This is why we are ill-advised to take Muslim spokesmen at their word when they describe the peaceful intentions of Islam.

Now hear what Maj. Stephen Coughlin has to say about what happened at the Vatican on Pentecost Sunday. He explains in great detail, using authoritative sources on Islamic law, what the imam was doing when he inserted those three extra verses into his prayer in the Vatican garden:

As you can see, Pope Francis and the leaders of the Catholic Church, not to mention the Jewish representatives from Israel, had the wool deftly pulled over their eyes by the Muslim Brotherhood.

The “interfaith” movement is a Muslim Brotherhood scam designed to soften up gullible Jews and Christians in advance of the inevitable Islamic victory.

The incident in the Vatican garden received very little Western media attention, even though it was one of the most important stories of the decade. We were all too busy paying attention to the more obvious jihad in Syria and Iraq, where Islam is reaching the same goal through fire and blood and slaughter.

What happened at the Vatican is understood (correctly) by Muslims as a great victory for Islam. Using stealth and deception, the Al-Azhar imam penetrated the innermost sanctum of Christendom and claimed it for the Umma.

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  • mollysdad

    Happily for us all, Our Lord Jesus Christ is a law unto Himself. Three days after Pentecost Sunday, ISIS popped up out of nowhere. This is God’s answer to prayer for peace. He drags Amalek out of his hiding place for a holy war and commands the nations to exterminate him and leave none alive among him who breathe.

    If the nations won’t do it, God will wipe out Amalek Himself.

    • sheikyermami

      The Crusaders never had any intention “to finish the job”- all they wanted is access to the holy land. They never set out to destroy Islam or to reconquer land that was occupied by the Muslim hordes.

      • mollysdad

        The mission objective in Christian and Jewish holy war is the destruction of Amalek, the existential enemy of God’s people who will stop at nothing to destroy Israel and the Church, that they be not a nation, and that the name of Israel be remembered no more (Psalm 83).

      • 1Indioviejo1

        They knew nothing of The New Testament. Most noblemen were illiterate and were trained as warriors. There was too much infighting to be able to make a lasting effort in the Middle East.

  • Damaris Tighe

    What on earth was Fr Korner smoking when he made that statement?

  • Damaris Tighe

    I greatly regret the resignation of Pope Benedict who demonstrated at Regensburg that he understood the problem. I suspect that the present & future popes, being a bit younger, will have been brainwashed in dhimmitude. I think it was a priest called Malachi who reported a few years ago that a Pope had said that satan is now stalking the corridors of the Vatican.

    • Juan José Rivera Díaz

      It was Pope Paul VI who said that.

    • Nixonfan

      Francis is proof that the the Holy See is not, in fact, infallible. All humans are fallible, including this socialist from Argentina.

      • Damaris Tighe

        Well infallibility only applies when the Pope ‘speaks from the chair’, ie, makes an official statement about doctrine or morals. Otherwise he’s considered to be as infallible as anyone else.

  • Rev. Roy

    “The Vatican Falls for the ‘Interfaith scam”…last November a well-meaning Pope Francis”……”had the wool deftly pulled over their eyes “….Nay, I say, Ned May, the Pope, the Vatican, are not victims but the perpetrators of this insidious ‘menage-a-trois”, this “ovum” of the Scriptually declared end-time, one world church.

    Seriously now, when you have a pope who has publically declared that atheists and homosexuals will meet him in Heaven, and who has announced publically that he is looking forward to blessing aliens upon their arrival here on planet Xenon (er, Earth), you cannot possibly believe some of the things that you have written regarding his “innocence”.

    You are right, though, when you state “The “interfaith” movement is a Muslim Brotherhood scam designed to soften up gullible Jews and Christians in advance of the inevitable Islamic victory”, but if you look closely, you will see that it is the Vatican that is using the Islamic plotters, not the other way around.

    • Juan José Rivera Díaz

      “is the Vatican that is using the Islamic plotters, not the other way around.” Oh dear… another “protestant genius.” That’s why smoking pot is bad for you my friend.

      • 1Indioviejo1

        As a Catholic I also say that The Vatican is playing games, but I don’t know to what end.

  • http://libertyandculture.blogspot.com/ Jason P

    An excellent step-by-step analysis of what happened and what it means. Glad to see you here and keep up the good work at “Gates of Vienna” blog. Wish the both of you the best of health!

  • mamabear

    Why did one pope say to the Iman why do we fight when we serve the same god? the meeting between all religions is the apostasy church scripture tells us of, with G-d saying, come out of her my brethern. and with the pope speaking all languages, I am to believe he did not know what was said. G-d says it is better to believ G-d than man..

  • margstar

    This is libereration theology on steroids. I am so glad I left Catholicism many years ago as this proves I was right. The lines are truly being drawn.

    • JTLiuzza

      It proves nothing of the kind, although it might soothe you to think so. This is not the first time the Church has endured heresy, and it won’t be the last. And yet, she remains.

      • margstar

        Then what is Pax Christ International? Why do the neighboring Franciscan nuns support CAIR even though they know them for what they are, supporters of Sharia?

        It may be that not all Catholics agree with the more liberal subgroups, but even so, I left the church for doctrinal issues.

    • pupsncats

      You didn’t leave Catholicism if you left the religion of Francis, Benedict, and JPII which is not Catholicism. Their religion is the invention of the Vatican II Council which rejected Catholicism.

      • NHILLM

        What of Pope Saint John XXIII? In your view, are not his doctrines of deception just as evil? Please expound on the 2nd Vatican Council’s rejection of Catholicism.

        • pupsncats

          The doctrines of ecumenism, collegiality, and that the Catholic Church is not the only, true Christian church and the only path to eternal life with God are three of the most blamphemous doctrines of their new religion. They destroyed the validity of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, the validity of the priesthood, and the very ability of anyone to know the true teachings of the Church. Their worship service is a Protestant/Masonic/pagan service. They created a new calendar to eliminate the Feast Days of most saints, eliminate the days of fasting and abstinence except for a minimal few, adopted the Protestant hymns that are crap compared to Gregorian chant, turned the Sacrament of Reconciliation into a meaningless “confession”, made their priests simply “presiders” of a “memorial service” which the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass certainly is NOT, changed the words in the prayers so their meaning corresponds to their false doctrines, eliminated many of the prayers which the priest said, and simply made their service the worship of man, not God.

  • s;vbkr0boc,klos;

    As a Catholic, it is like seeing one’s mother drunk, barely dressed and flirting with sailors.

    • Nixonfan

      Exactly! The Holy Qur’an is one long diatribe against Jews and Christians. There can be no “dialogue”.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      As they’re pulling her dress off.

    • Americana

      I didn’t find the one sentence of the Qu’ran about granting victory to the unbelievers to be nearly as frightening as his own personal prayer for justice for those whose blood has been spilled and so on…

      • Americana

        …granting victory (OVER) the unbelievers…

  • USARetired

    I thought the Vatican had enough intelligent people, that understood the fact Islam is not a legitimate religion, but is ‘Fanciest Ideology’ ! It is impossible for them to coexist alongside Catolics and Protestants!

  • wileyvet

    All right, I will try again. According to Islam every person from Adam to Christ was a Muslim. Christ is not the Son of God, but a mere prophet. Islam the Johnny come lately religion, denies every tenet that comprise Christian Theology. Muhammad had a pathetic understanding of The Trinity associating Mary with it and falsely attributing a belief in 3 Gods to Christianity and so rejected it, telling Christians they were wrong. Imagine after 6 centuries of firmly established doctrine, written about by some of the most erudite Christian theologians of the time, an ignorant illiterate Arab declares it in error, and demands that Christians accept his falsehoods as true. Without a shred of evidence, (unless you count the giant hairy mole on his back) without one proof or miracle to confirm he was a prophet, except his insistence, he condemned both Jews and Christians for rejecting his absurd claims. And that is exactly what Islam is. Absurd to the nth degree. It is not a belief that is worthy of any respect or sensitivity because it has none for any other. The Koran, and by extension Islam is so shot full of inconsistencies in doctrine, contradictions of dogma, scientific and logical fallacies and absurdities, that it is laughable that for 1400 years this nonsense has corrupted so many people to date. These Imams are ignoramuses posing as pious scholars. There is simply no common ground between Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Amazing that the Pope is so ignorant of apparent Christian doctrine and even more so of Islamic ones, that he would try to feed this BS to the world. Islam has already shovelled this steaming pile of Camel dung, to billions, now the Pope wants to add another billion Catholics to the mix. Islam can be shredded from a theological standpoint, but how about from just a secular viewpoint. Islam is hostile to all concepts of democracy, freedom of conscience, speech, and thought. It simply does not give a non-Muslim the option of rejecting it from ones own intellect or reason or logic or conscience. Islam will impose itself one way or another, by hook or by crook.

    • s;vbkr0boc,klos;

      Mo’s ‘revelation’ confuses the sister of Moses, Miriam with the Blessed Virgin Mary..

  • 1Indioviejo1

    I don’t believe the Catholic Church is ignorant of Islam. The Church uniquely has withstood the Imperialist and expansionist satanic horde since its inception. But i do believe they are playing a political game they can not win. For now they are losing credibility among informed Catholics who don’t buy the Pope’s BS.

  • Zombee

    Pope Francis is more than a bit naive for there is NO way to make peace with a people whose very foundation is built upon taqiyya…the art of lying to advance all things Islam.

  • fpm

    While the Pope and the like were fooled and proudly denied they were fooled, that imam is getting a fat check from the “unity” terrorist government sponsored by Hussein. Let’s see if the news about Pope’s illness will become a news about resurrection.

  • Nixonfan

    There’s all sorts of interfaith stuff in Tehran and Riyadh. The imams and mullahs can’t get enough of it.

    • Uncle Jay

      Well said. As I’m sure you know, both Iran and Saudi Arabia are polls apart. The former is Shiite, expansionist, and willing to destroy not only Israel but all Sunni nations, like Saudi Arabia, Syria, Egypt, et al. It is going to be very interesting what happens in the next five to ten years in the ME. Which Islamic faction will win out? Different groups like, Al-Quida, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hetzbollah, etc. are united against Israel, but I believe all the factions will end up killing each like they are in Syria in the long run. Not any of these factions will let the other be the leader. This is an important fact that will help the USA, Israel and other nations who fear the new Muslim imperialist activities in the ME. The Syrian Civil War that is being waged right now should be closely watched not only by Israel, the USA but also by Jordan, Turkey, and Russia as well. The questions then becomes who has the most to lose in these new ME developments and how is any sane and rational government going to stop the new Islamic imperialism?

  • pupsncats

    The Vatican has pulled the wool over the eyes of the world for the last half century. It embodies the false religion of Modernism created during the Second Vatican Council. This false religion embraces every condemnation of past councils and of what Catholicism taught for over nineteen centuries before it. It isn’t simply the smoke of Satan that Paul VI smelled but the embodiment of satanic rule. That is why this interfaith “incident” should not be a surprise. Every worship service within this heretical church is a blasphemy against God as are its doctrines. When you are already in bed with the devil, it isn’t surprising you will defend evil.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    How can we have a unified global sovereign if we don’t have robust multi-faith institutions? Bring it on Mr. Vicar.

  • rjm

    Pope Francis is setting up a system of a one world religion, he is fulfilling the role of a false prophet.