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		<title>By: Asadullah Ali Al-Andalusi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Asadullah Ali Al-Andalusi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2014 04:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If Islam elects not to go through a period of reform, then it needs to be eliminated from the West&quot; 

What you mean by &quot;reform&quot; here is &quot;conform&quot;, correct? So Islam must become totally aligned with Western values to be accepted in societies of &quot;diversity and pluralism&quot;. Quite the contradiction.

As for the article, a lot of the cases involved are quite unjust, but Islam does traditionally punish apostates (sane individuals who choose to apostate under an Islamic polity -- which currently doesn&#039;t exist). The punishment is not inflicted because of &quot;disagreement&quot; of because a &quot;hatred for freedom&quot;, but because when you enter Islam you are bound by a contract with Allah. When you come to Islam you accept Allah and the Messenger (sallallahu alayhi wasallam). The former you acknowledge as the source of all life and the reason you exist. The moment you reject this fact after having accepted it, its about the same as being invited to someones home and then spitting on their floor. In that case, you no longer deserve the right to stay there -- much the same do you have the right to stay in this life when you&#039;ve rejected life. 

The punishment is given for a BREACH OF CONTRACT, much like treason is punished as a BREACH OF CONTRACT OF THE STATE. They are very similar.

The difference? Westerners, who typically view religion as a mere hobby, disagree with this contractual agreement and think its okay to force others to abide by their rules, through war and threats towards people to &quot;integrate, or else&quot;. So while Islam punishes for apostasy, Non-Muslim governments and societies punish for simply not converting. 

I&#039;d say Islam is far superior in terms of allowing freedom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If Islam elects not to go through a period of reform, then it needs to be eliminated from the West&#8221; </p>
<p>What you mean by &#8220;reform&#8221; here is &#8220;conform&#8221;, correct? So Islam must become totally aligned with Western values to be accepted in societies of &#8220;diversity and pluralism&#8221;. Quite the contradiction.</p>
<p>As for the article, a lot of the cases involved are quite unjust, but Islam does traditionally punish apostates (sane individuals who choose to apostate under an Islamic polity &#8212; which currently doesn&#8217;t exist). The punishment is not inflicted because of &#8220;disagreement&#8221; of because a &#8220;hatred for freedom&#8221;, but because when you enter Islam you are bound by a contract with Allah. When you come to Islam you accept Allah and the Messenger (sallallahu alayhi wasallam). The former you acknowledge as the source of all life and the reason you exist. The moment you reject this fact after having accepted it, its about the same as being invited to someones home and then spitting on their floor. In that case, you no longer deserve the right to stay there &#8212; much the same do you have the right to stay in this life when you&#8217;ve rejected life. </p>
<p>The punishment is given for a BREACH OF CONTRACT, much like treason is punished as a BREACH OF CONTRACT OF THE STATE. They are very similar.</p>
<p>The difference? Westerners, who typically view religion as a mere hobby, disagree with this contractual agreement and think its okay to force others to abide by their rules, through war and threats towards people to &#8220;integrate, or else&#8221;. So while Islam punishes for apostasy, Non-Muslim governments and societies punish for simply not converting. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d say Islam is far superior in terms of allowing freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Healy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean Healy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2014 04:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the change to secular education of the west, qualities embedded in society due to Christianity have been systematically removed and rewritten as secular values. Together with the tyranny of equality, where certain things must be viewed the same, it goes against secular thought to view Islam as forming the cultural thought of certain societies and for that impact to be negative as compared to other societies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the change to secular education of the west, qualities embedded in society due to Christianity have been systematically removed and rewritten as secular values. Together with the tyranny of equality, where certain things must be viewed the same, it goes against secular thought to view Islam as forming the cultural thought of certain societies and for that impact to be negative as compared to other societies.</p>
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		<title>By: CapitalistPig</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CapitalistPig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2014 02:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, I&#039;m being somewhat hyperbolic.......but with drones &amp; precision munitions it ought to be a snap to take out Muslim leaders pretty indiscriminately. If you take em out consistently, maybe a few of them might become a bit more &quot;moderate&quot; in their Muslim beliefs once they figure out they get to be the martyrs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#8217;m being somewhat hyperbolic&#8230;&#8230;.but with drones &amp; precision munitions it ought to be a snap to take out Muslim leaders pretty indiscriminately. If you take em out consistently, maybe a few of them might become a bit more &#8220;moderate&#8221; in their Muslim beliefs once they figure out they get to be the martyrs.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Flannagan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph Flannagan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2014 01:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And yet they DEMAND respect and portray themselves as the answer to ALL the world&#039;s problems - without ever realising that THEY ARE a huge portion of that problem. There is violence and mayhem in Egypt , Syria , Sudan , Yemen , CAR , Mali , Somalia , Iraq, Pakistan , Indonesia , Afghanistan , Algeria , Lebanon , Gaza , Tanzania , Kenya , Nigeria and dozens of other countries with muslim or majority muslim populations. They also export their violence to USA , Europe , Australia , Canada , China , Russia etc.  It is the ONLY religion that is in conflict with Christians , Jews , Hindus , Sikhs , Buddhists and EVEN among themselves with sunni killing shia and vice versa and BOTH killing ahmediyas , sufis and other lesser sects. And they STILL insist that islam is  peaceful , benign , tolerant and merciful. This demonstrates the level of indoctrination , self delusion and deceit that prevails among this evil cult.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet they DEMAND respect and portray themselves as the answer to ALL the world&#8217;s problems &#8211; without ever realising that THEY ARE a huge portion of that problem. There is violence and mayhem in Egypt , Syria , Sudan , Yemen , CAR , Mali , Somalia , Iraq, Pakistan , Indonesia , Afghanistan , Algeria , Lebanon , Gaza , Tanzania , Kenya , Nigeria and dozens of other countries with muslim or majority muslim populations. They also export their violence to USA , Europe , Australia , Canada , China , Russia etc.  It is the ONLY religion that is in conflict with Christians , Jews , Hindus , Sikhs , Buddhists and EVEN among themselves with sunni killing shia and vice versa and BOTH killing ahmediyas , sufis and other lesser sects. And they STILL insist that islam is  peaceful , benign , tolerant and merciful. This demonstrates the level of indoctrination , self delusion and deceit that prevails among this evil cult.</p>
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		<title>By: Jakareh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jakareh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2014 22:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is indeed a dump, but many of them do have electricity, for instance, and the ruling elites certainly do. It&#039;s unjust for seventh-century barbarians to enjoy any modern amenities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is indeed a dump, but many of them do have electricity, for instance, and the ruling elites certainly do. It&#8217;s unjust for seventh-century barbarians to enjoy any modern amenities.</p>
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		<title>By: CapitalistPig</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CapitalistPig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2014 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From what I&#039;ve heard about Sudan, that might amount to about $500 in damages. How can you devastate a dump?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I&#8217;ve heard about Sudan, that might amount to about $500 in damages. How can you devastate a dump?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Ludwig</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Ludwig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am shocked by Mr. Ibrahim&#039;s article. Doesn&#039;t he know that all Muslims are peace loving people who just want to own cell phones, eat soft tacos, get a good education, and live eternally in fraternal peace and joy with their neighbors throughout the world?  I personally know a peace loving Moroccan man who owns a restaurant with great take out.  When I told him that Egypt and North Africa were converted to Islam at the point of the sword, not by spiritual conviction, he became quite angry. I was surprised, given the fire in his eyes, that he did not put a triple dose of hot sauce (or rat poison for that matter) on my shish kebab. Another Egyptian I met in a Palestinian grocery store in New York (supposedly an engineer by training, but forced by circumstances to work as a store clerk) communicated his outrage at the West because of the Crusades of 1095.  &quot;Getting even&quot; for that historical outrage is not good enough.  There will never be peace in the world according to this man until the outrage of the Crusades is avenged (even though, after the first Crusade, the Muslims in the Middle East defeated the Christian invaders within 100 years).  You people from the West, you critics of Islam and of Muslim, do not will not, and cannot understand that Islam is the religion of peace.  It wishes well to all people.  The murderous rampages against non-Muslims and against females and against converts all over the world are aberrations...not representative of the true intent of Islam. Is it not obvious that among a religion that numbers over one billion followers, there are going to be some malcontents who are giving their heritage a bad name?  Are you going to smear the dear warm-hearted tolerant loving family-oriented kind intelligent neighborly women-cherishing sincere motivated forward-looking Muslim people with a broad brush of accusations and incendiary statements.  Don&#039;t you think there could be a comparable book about Christian atrocities to women?  What about all the battered wives and abused children in the USA alone?  Is not Mr. Ibrahim just another Pharisee throwing the first stone at Muslims?  Yes, it is pure hypocrisy and distortion to portray the kind Islamic population of the world,  yes (salaam aleichim to you) to portray this family-building tradition and culture based on the rights of all people to enjoy freedom and happiness (although the words freedom and happiness nowhere appear in the Koran [let&#039;s go back to the old spelling]) as hideously sadistic at its core.  It is and must be an exaggeration to portray Islamics as hateful terroristically-inclined misogynists.  Because, well, because...if it were true, then it would mean that the very survival of Western Civilization as a force for good in the world is being threatened, and that we are in a cultural, political, and military crisis that is comparable to the first wave of Islamic militancy that took place in the seventh and eighth centuries, and has recurred (albeit more weakly) over many centuries up to the present.  Yet, how can that be?  The Billboard Awards were on TV just the other night, and then Dancing With the Stars, then the final night of American Idol....  A culture war of the magnitude such as that depicted by Mr. Ibrahim or Robert Spencer or Daniel Greenfield or Steve Emerson or Daniel Pipes or scores of other lesser lights?.....  They are hysterical.  No...the Golden Globe awards are coming up.  So are the Oscars and the Emmies.....  So are the country music awards and the soul train awards.....  Justin Bieber is awaiting his next contact with the police as is Alex Baldwin.  Madonna just signed a three year contract with Kabbala.  Solange just punched and kicked Jayzee in an elevator....  And we are expected to worry about Islamic hatred of women, of infidels, of Jews, of Christians, of Buddhists, of Chinese communists, of Hindus, of Sunnis, of Shi&#039;ites, of Al-Qaeda, of Muslims going shopping with their kids in bazaars in Iraq.....come on, you must be kidding me.  Mr. Ibrahim, you say Islam is hostile towards Christianity and towards women....you must be kidding......!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am shocked by Mr. Ibrahim&#8217;s article. Doesn&#8217;t he know that all Muslims are peace loving people who just want to own cell phones, eat soft tacos, get a good education, and live eternally in fraternal peace and joy with their neighbors throughout the world?  I personally know a peace loving Moroccan man who owns a restaurant with great take out.  When I told him that Egypt and North Africa were converted to Islam at the point of the sword, not by spiritual conviction, he became quite angry. I was surprised, given the fire in his eyes, that he did not put a triple dose of hot sauce (or rat poison for that matter) on my shish kebab. Another Egyptian I met in a Palestinian grocery store in New York (supposedly an engineer by training, but forced by circumstances to work as a store clerk) communicated his outrage at the West because of the Crusades of 1095.  &#8220;Getting even&#8221; for that historical outrage is not good enough.  There will never be peace in the world according to this man until the outrage of the Crusades is avenged (even though, after the first Crusade, the Muslims in the Middle East defeated the Christian invaders within 100 years).  You people from the West, you critics of Islam and of Muslim, do not will not, and cannot understand that Islam is the religion of peace.  It wishes well to all people.  The murderous rampages against non-Muslims and against females and against converts all over the world are aberrations&#8230;not representative of the true intent of Islam. Is it not obvious that among a religion that numbers over one billion followers, there are going to be some malcontents who are giving their heritage a bad name?  Are you going to smear the dear warm-hearted tolerant loving family-oriented kind intelligent neighborly women-cherishing sincere motivated forward-looking Muslim people with a broad brush of accusations and incendiary statements.  Don&#8217;t you think there could be a comparable book about Christian atrocities to women?  What about all the battered wives and abused children in the USA alone?  Is not Mr. Ibrahim just another Pharisee throwing the first stone at Muslims?  Yes, it is pure hypocrisy and distortion to portray the kind Islamic population of the world,  yes (salaam aleichim to you) to portray this family-building tradition and culture based on the rights of all people to enjoy freedom and happiness (although the words freedom and happiness nowhere appear in the Koran [let's go back to the old spelling]) as hideously sadistic at its core.  It is and must be an exaggeration to portray Islamics as hateful terroristically-inclined misogynists.  Because, well, because&#8230;if it were true, then it would mean that the very survival of Western Civilization as a force for good in the world is being threatened, and that we are in a cultural, political, and military crisis that is comparable to the first wave of Islamic militancy that took place in the seventh and eighth centuries, and has recurred (albeit more weakly) over many centuries up to the present.  Yet, how can that be?  The Billboard Awards were on TV just the other night, and then Dancing With the Stars, then the final night of American Idol&#8230;.  A culture war of the magnitude such as that depicted by Mr. Ibrahim or Robert Spencer or Daniel Greenfield or Steve Emerson or Daniel Pipes or scores of other lesser lights?&#8230;..  They are hysterical.  No&#8230;the Golden Globe awards are coming up.  So are the Oscars and the Emmies&#8230;..  So are the country music awards and the soul train awards&#8230;..  Justin Bieber is awaiting his next contact with the police as is Alex Baldwin.  Madonna just signed a three year contract with Kabbala.  Solange just punched and kicked Jayzee in an elevator&#8230;.  And we are expected to worry about Islamic hatred of women, of infidels, of Jews, of Christians, of Buddhists, of Chinese communists, of Hindus, of Sunnis, of Shi&#8217;ites, of Al-Qaeda, of Muslims going shopping with their kids in bazaars in Iraq&#8230;..come on, you must be kidding me.  Mr. Ibrahim, you say Islam is hostile towards Christianity and towards women&#8230;.you must be kidding&#8230;&#8230;!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: popseal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[popseal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 21:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sir Winston Churchill, &quot;Rabies is to a dog, what Islam is to a man!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir Winston Churchill, &#8220;Rabies is to a dog, what Islam is to a man!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dyer's Eve</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dyer's Eve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In response to your question. The answer is; never. Most humans are too dumb to learn. Sorry, but it&#039;s true. I like what you say about &#039;sand to glass&#039;. I agree. Drop atomic bombs across the earth from Casablanca to Jakarta. The earth will scream, but it will recover and the scourge of Islam will be seared shut and removed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to your question. The answer is; never. Most humans are too dumb to learn. Sorry, but it&#8217;s true. I like what you say about &#8216;sand to glass&#8217;. I agree. Drop atomic bombs across the earth from Casablanca to Jakarta. The earth will scream, but it will recover and the scourge of Islam will be seared shut and removed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ralph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When will the &quot;World&quot; understand what these Sorry Muslim&#039;s are? This has been going on for Thousands of years and will continue... The Crusades pushed these STUPID IDIOTS back to their caves many times and that did not change their behavior and will never change them... The Only To Kill A Snake Is To Cut Its Head Off; or turn the Sand To Glass... Nuke Them...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will the &#8220;World&#8221; understand what these Sorry Muslim&#8217;s are? This has been going on for Thousands of years and will continue&#8230; The Crusades pushed these STUPID IDIOTS back to their caves many times and that did not change their behavior and will never change them&#8230; The Only To Kill A Snake Is To Cut Its Head Off; or turn the Sand To Glass&#8230; Nuke Them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: atomnummer 79</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[atomnummer 79]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree on destroying important infrastructure, but tearing down the mosques would be fine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree on destroying important infrastructure, but tearing down the mosques would be fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Jakareh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jakareh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 13:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mentally, the Sudanese Muslims are still in the seventh century. If they murder this woman, they should be made to go there physically. How about we utterly destroy Sudan both for the sake of justice and to serve as a warning to other Muslims? First of all, the government structure: palaces, ministries, barracks, police stations. Second, the infrastructure: ports, airports, bridges, water treatment facilities, power plants, refineries, dams. Third, the economy: factories and commercial buildings. Last but not least, the death cult infrastructure: mosques, madrassas, anything at all having to do with Islam.

But, of course, instead of doing this Barack Hussein Obama is more likely to apologize to the Sudanese government for our insensitivity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mentally, the Sudanese Muslims are still in the seventh century. If they murder this woman, they should be made to go there physically. How about we utterly destroy Sudan both for the sake of justice and to serve as a warning to other Muslims? First of all, the government structure: palaces, ministries, barracks, police stations. Second, the infrastructure: ports, airports, bridges, water treatment facilities, power plants, refineries, dams. Third, the economy: factories and commercial buildings. Last but not least, the death cult infrastructure: mosques, madrassas, anything at all having to do with Islam.</p>
<p>But, of course, instead of doing this Barack Hussein Obama is more likely to apologize to the Sudanese government for our insensitivity.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas J.Stratford</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas J.Stratford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 11:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Islam elects not to go through a period of reform, then it needs to be eliminated from the West.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Islam elects not to go through a period of reform, then it needs to be eliminated from the West.</p>
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