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		<title>By: ApolloSpeaks</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/raymond-ibrahim/the-koran-and-eternal-war/comment-page-1/#comment-5516265</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ApolloSpeaks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2014 18:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FROM VLAD THE IMPALER TO VLAD THE CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE CRUSADER AND SAVIOR OF CIVILIZATION

Click www.apollospeaks.com for this must read article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FROM VLAD THE IMPALER TO VLAD THE CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE CRUSADER AND SAVIOR OF CIVILIZATION</p>
<p>Click <a href="http://www.apollospeaks.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.apollospeaks.com</a> for this must read article.</p>
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		<title>By: Biff Henderson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biff Henderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2014 11:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Digesting his article Are Judaism and Christianity as Violent as Islam? in the Middle East Quarterly is time well spent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Digesting his article Are Judaism and Christianity as Violent as Islam? in the Middle East Quarterly is time well spent.</p>
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		<title>By: Softly Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/raymond-ibrahim/the-koran-and-eternal-war/comment-page-1/#comment-5516130</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Softly Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2014 08:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t forget al-Shabaab and the Muslim Brotherhood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget al-Shabaab and the Muslim Brotherhood.</p>
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		<title>By: billobillo54</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2014 22:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent summary.  Thanks Joe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent summary.  Thanks Joe.</p>
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		<title>By: billobillo54</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2014 21:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again Raymond Ibrahim, a scholar, is able to clearly, succinctly and accurately  discriminate between Islam and Judaism and Christianity and their respective approaches to violence.  This, along with his article (indeed everything he writes) on the similarities and differences in &quot;Sola Scriptura&quot; in Protestantism and Islam are profound in their insight.  This man should be heard everywhere.  God bless you Mr. Ibrahim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again Raymond Ibrahim, a scholar, is able to clearly, succinctly and accurately  discriminate between Islam and Judaism and Christianity and their respective approaches to violence.  This, along with his article (indeed everything he writes) on the similarities and differences in &#8220;Sola Scriptura&#8221; in Protestantism and Islam are profound in their insight.  This man should be heard everywhere.  God bless you Mr. Ibrahim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Texas Patriot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2014 17:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Compared with the Koran, Mein Kampf is like a children’s nursery rhyme.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compared with the Koran, Mein Kampf is like a children’s nursery rhyme.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Texas Patriot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2014 15:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is nothing defamatory in pointing out that Islam promotes religious exclusivity and supremacism, as well as mandatory discrimination and punishment of non-Muslims and Muslims who fail to follow the strict dictates of Sharia law.  It’s a plain and obvious fact borne out by the teachings and life example of Muhammad and his followers and the history of Islam throughout the world.  The question is whether such a religion should be permitted in societies based on individual freedom, human rights, and constitutional democracy.  If Muslims want to submit themselves to Islam and Sharia, they should be permitted to do so, but they should not be permitted to make war on those who do not wish to do so.  The time for pretending is over.  Islam is not a religion of peace.  It’s a religion of total war against non-Muslims, and it is directly contradictory and inapposite to the core values of Western Civilization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing defamatory in pointing out that Islam promotes religious exclusivity and supremacism, as well as mandatory discrimination and punishment of non-Muslims and Muslims who fail to follow the strict dictates of Sharia law.  It’s a plain and obvious fact borne out by the teachings and life example of Muhammad and his followers and the history of Islam throughout the world.  The question is whether such a religion should be permitted in societies based on individual freedom, human rights, and constitutional democracy.  If Muslims want to submit themselves to Islam and Sharia, they should be permitted to do so, but they should not be permitted to make war on those who do not wish to do so.  The time for pretending is over.  Islam is not a religion of peace.  It’s a religion of total war against non-Muslims, and it is directly contradictory and inapposite to the core values of Western Civilization.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason P</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geert Wilders makes the argument that the Koran should be classified in the same category as Mein Kampf. He has a point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geert Wilders makes the argument that the Koran should be classified in the same category as Mein Kampf. He has a point.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe The Gentile</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe The Gentile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2014 13:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Raymond, thanks, a much-needed summarization of an important
subject.

You powerfully debunked the common, pervasive ‘false
equivalences’ between Christianity and Islam in significant ways -- you exposed
the important distinction: violence towards non-believers is both COMMANDED and OPEN-ENDED in the Quran; in the Bible it is NARRATED and CLOSED-ENDED (SPECIFIC TO TIME AND PLACE).

Your comparison can be summarized as follows:

&lt;b&gt;Violence to non-Believers in Islamic Scripture: COMMANDED, OPEN-ENDED
Violence to non-Believers in Christian Scripture: NARRATED, CLOSED-ENDED
&lt;/b&gt;

There yet more to the distinction that seems to receive little attention.  It demolishes the false equivalence yet further.  There is also a profound distinction at the level of &lt;b&gt;AUTHORITY&lt;/b&gt; between the politically violent passages in the Quran and in the Bible.  The violent Jihadist commands of the Quran are at the pinnacle of Islamic AUTHORITY in Islamic scriptures – right at the top of the stack, the Meccan Suras, made more authoritative even than other, more peaceful suras of the Quran through the Quran-supported doctrine of abrogation.

The violent Old-Testament bible passages which are placed in false equivalence with Quranic violence are all LOW-AUTHORITY elements of Christian scripture.  The highest-authority elements of Christian scripture are the teachings of Jesus.  In a sense, Christianity has its own doctrine of abrogation, (roughly, the doctrine of the ‘New Covenant’) and happily the higher-authority part is the more peaceful part, the reverse of the situation for Islam.

A common fallacy lies behind these false equivalences – the fallacy that all elements of all scripture are of equal authority, which is demonstrably false in both Islam and Christianity.  We need to compare religions as they are, not as we imagine them to be, and that requires knowledge of how their scriptures are actually interpreted, and which parts have more authority among believers.

I offer here what I believe is a summary for a more complete
debunking of these false equivalences:

&lt;b&gt;
Violence to non-Believers in Islamic scripture: COMMANDED, OPEN-ENDED, PINNACLE OF AUTHORITY
Violence to non-Believers in Christian scripture: NARRATED, CLOSED-ENDED, VERY LOW AUTHORITY
&lt;/b&gt;

There is of course variance in how scriptures are interpreted in both religions. But overarching patterns remain.  Today there is no significant Islamic sect that does not place the Medinan Suras at the pinnacle of Islamic authority (with the possible exception of the tiny-minority and persecuted Ahmadis). And today there is no significant Christian sect which places the passages of the Old Testament which are politically violent to non-believers at a high level of authority.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raymond, thanks, a much-needed summarization of an important<br />
subject.</p>
<p>You powerfully debunked the common, pervasive ‘false<br />
equivalences’ between Christianity and Islam in significant ways &#8212; you exposed<br />
the important distinction: violence towards non-believers is both COMMANDED and OPEN-ENDED in the Quran; in the Bible it is NARRATED and CLOSED-ENDED (SPECIFIC TO TIME AND PLACE).</p>
<p>Your comparison can be summarized as follows:</p>
<p><b>Violence to non-Believers in Islamic Scripture: COMMANDED, OPEN-ENDED<br />
Violence to non-Believers in Christian Scripture: NARRATED, CLOSED-ENDED<br />
</b></p>
<p>There yet more to the distinction that seems to receive little attention.  It demolishes the false equivalence yet further.  There is also a profound distinction at the level of <b>AUTHORITY</b> between the politically violent passages in the Quran and in the Bible.  The violent Jihadist commands of the Quran are at the pinnacle of Islamic AUTHORITY in Islamic scriptures – right at the top of the stack, the Meccan Suras, made more authoritative even than other, more peaceful suras of the Quran through the Quran-supported doctrine of abrogation.</p>
<p>The violent Old-Testament bible passages which are placed in false equivalence with Quranic violence are all LOW-AUTHORITY elements of Christian scripture.  The highest-authority elements of Christian scripture are the teachings of Jesus.  In a sense, Christianity has its own doctrine of abrogation, (roughly, the doctrine of the ‘New Covenant’) and happily the higher-authority part is the more peaceful part, the reverse of the situation for Islam.</p>
<p>A common fallacy lies behind these false equivalences – the fallacy that all elements of all scripture are of equal authority, which is demonstrably false in both Islam and Christianity.  We need to compare religions as they are, not as we imagine them to be, and that requires knowledge of how their scriptures are actually interpreted, and which parts have more authority among believers.</p>
<p>I offer here what I believe is a summary for a more complete<br />
debunking of these false equivalences:</p>
<p><b><br />
Violence to non-Believers in Islamic scripture: COMMANDED, OPEN-ENDED, PINNACLE OF AUTHORITY<br />
Violence to non-Believers in Christian scripture: NARRATED, CLOSED-ENDED, VERY LOW AUTHORITY<br />
</b></p>
<p>There is of course variance in how scriptures are interpreted in both religions. But overarching patterns remain.  Today there is no significant Islamic sect that does not place the Medinan Suras at the pinnacle of Islamic authority (with the possible exception of the tiny-minority and persecuted Ahmadis). And today there is no significant Christian sect which places the passages of the Old Testament which are politically violent to non-believers at a high level of authority.</p>
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		<title>By: SCREW SOCIALISM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SCREW SOCIALISM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2014 05:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I vote for ETERNAL NAKBA for Pal-e-SWINE and Al Qada, Taliban, ISIS, Boko Haram, Hamass, Hezbullah and Fascist Iran.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vote for ETERNAL NAKBA for Pal-e-SWINE and Al Qada, Taliban, ISIS, Boko Haram, Hamass, Hezbullah and Fascist Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: mollysdad</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/raymond-ibrahim/the-koran-and-eternal-war/comment-page-1/#comment-5515657</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mollysdad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2014 05:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Banning Islam sounds an attractive proposition. The obvious way to start is by prohibiting Muslims from having custody of any child.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Banning Islam sounds an attractive proposition. The obvious way to start is by prohibiting Muslims from having custody of any child.</p>
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