The Pentagon’s Bow to Islamic Extremism


Woman-wearing-Hijab“Caving to pressure from Muslim groups, the Pentagon has relaxed uniform rules to allow Islamic beards, turbans and hijabs. It’s a major win for political correctness and a big loss for military unit cohesion,” said a recent report.

This new relaxation of rules for Muslims comes at a time when the FBI is tracking more than 100 suspected jihadi-infiltrators of the U.S. military.  Just last month, Craig Benedict Baxam, a former Army soldier and convert to Islam, was sentenced to seven years in prison due to his al-Qaeda/jihadi activities.   Also last month, Mozaffar Khazaee, an Iranian-American working for the Defense Department, was arrested for sending secret documents to America’s enemy, Iran.

According to a Pentagon spokesperson, the new religious accommodations—to allow Islamic beards, turbans, and hijabs—which took effect very recently, would “reduce both the instances and perception of discrimination among those whose religious expressions are less familiar to the command.” 

The report concludes that, “Making special accommodations for Islam will only attract more Muslims into the military at a time when two recent terror cases highlight the ongoing danger of Muslims in uniform.”

But it’s worse than that; for not only will it attract “more Muslims,” it will attract precisely the wrong kinds of Muslims, AKA, “Islamists,” “radicals,” etc.

This is easily demonstrated by connecting the dots and understanding that Muslims who adhere to visible, non-problematic aspects of Islam—growing beards and donning hijabs—often indicate their adherence to non-visible, problematic aspects of Islam.

Consider it this way: Why do some Muslim men wear the prescribed beard and why do some Muslim women wear the prescribed hijab? Most Muslims would say they do so because Islam’s prophet Muhammad commanded them to (whether via the Koran or Hadith).

Regarding the Muslim beard, Muhammad wanted his followers to look different from “infidels,” namely Christians and Jews, so he ordered his followers to “trim closely the moustache and grow the beard.” Accordingly, all Sunni schools of law maintain that it is forbidden—a “major sin”—for men to shave their beards (unless, of course, it is part of a stratagem against the infidel, in which case it is permissible).

The question begs itself: If such Muslims meticulously follow the minor, “outer” things of Islam simply because their prophet made some utterances concerning them in the Hadith, logically speaking, does that not indicate that they also follow, or at the very least accept as legitimate, the major, “inner” themes Muhammad constantly emphasized in both the Koran and Hadith—such as enmity for and deceit of the infidel, and, when capable, perpetual jihad?

Even in the Islamic world this connection between visible indicators of Islamic piety and jihadi tendencies are well known.  Back in 2011, when Islamists were dominating Egypt’s politics, secularist talk show host Amr Adib of Cairo Today mocked the then calls for a “million man beard” march with his trademark sarcasm: “This is a great endeavor! After all, a man with a beard can never be a thug, can never rape a woman in the street, can never set a church on fire, can never fight and quarrel, can never steal, and can never be dishonest!”

His sarcasm was not missed on his Egyptian viewership which knew quite well that it is precisely those Muslims who most closely follow the minutia of Muhammad—for example, by growing a beard—that are most prone to violence, deceit, and anti-infidel sentiments, all of which were also advocated by Islam’s prophet.

Speaking more seriously, Adib had added that this issue is not about growing a beard, but rather, “once you grow your beard, you give proof of your commitment and fealty to everything in Islam.”

Similarly, after Egypt’s June 30 Revolution ousted the Muslim Brotherhood, “overt signs of piety [beards and hijabs] have become all it takes to attract suspicion from security forces at Cairo checkpoints and vigilantes looking to attack Islamists.”  Clubs and restaurants banned entrance to those wearing precisely these two “overt signs of piety.”

While Egyptians instinctively understand how fealty to the Muslim beard evinces fealty, or at least acceptance, to all those other problematic things Muhammad commanded, even in fuzzy Western op-eds, the connection sometimes peeks out. Consider the following excerpt from a New York Times piece titled “Behold the Mighty Beard, a Badge of Piety and Religious Belonging”:

 [A]ll over the Muslim world, the full beard has come to connote piety and spiritual fervor…. Of course, the beard is only a sign of righteousness. It is no guarantor, as Mr. Zulfiqar [a Muslim interviewee] reminds us: “I recall one gentleman who came back from a trip to Pakistan and remarked to me, ‘I learned one thing: the longer the beard, the bigger the crook.’ His anticipation was people with big beards would be really honest, but he kept meeting people lying to him.” 

The italicized portion speaks for itself. Whereas the Muslim beard ostensibly represents religious piety, some people, mostly Westerners, are shocked to find that those who wear it are often “crooks” and “liars.”

In Islam, however, outer signs of religiosity on the one hand, and corruption and deceit on the other, are quite compatible. After all, the same source—Islam’s prophet Muhammad, as recorded in the Hadith—that tells Muslims to grow a beard also advocates deception, the plundering of infidels, the keeping of sex slaves, adult “breast feeding,” and all sorts of other practices antithetical to Western notions of piety if not decency.

Incidentally, it’s the same with the hijab, or cloak that some Muslim women wear, also on Muhammad’s command. One reformed Islamic jihadi from Egypt accurately observes that “the proliferation of the hijab is strongly correlated with increased terrorism…. Terrorism became much more frequent in such societies as Indonesia, Egypt, Algeria, and the U.K. after the hijab became prevalent among Muslim women living in those communities.”

And so, at a time when the U.S. should at the very least be wary of those who openly wear their Islamic radicalism around their face and head—beards for males, hijabs for females—the U.S. Pentagon (of all places) is embracing them in “celebration of multiculturalism.” Where loyalty to the U.S. is most needed, the Pentagon embraces those who show that their loyalty is elsewhere (among other things, the beard and hijab are meant to separate “pure believers” from “impure infidels”).

Of course, none of this is surprising considering that the Pentagon also considers Evangelical Christians and Catholics as “extremists” on a par with al-Qaeda.

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  • Hassan

    I can sum up the essence of this article with one word: Racism!

    • Costa

      ISLAM IS NOT A RACE! Its a system of beliefs, majority of which are RACIST and offensive, to women, gays, blacks and everyone else.
      Standing against this Islamic system is not racism, it is common sense.

      • Hassan

        People are being discriminated against simply for looking like Muslims. That is about as racist as me denying to employ someone because they have dark skin. (Dark skin is not a race either.)

        • http://ironburka.blogspot.com/ Mullah Lodabullah

          Dark skin is not generally a choice, if one is born with it (as with light skin). Muslims choose to dress as stereotypical muslims, and then complain about being stereotyped. Best to avoid them, since allah is likely to use them to do its wet work (Sura 8.17). “So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them, and you did not smite when you smote (the enemy), but it was Allah Who smote …”

          And so allah’s madness continues, until it is bound in the Lake of Fire, along with its false prophet. Don’t join it!

        • Jake-a-runi

          People are being discriminated against simply for looking like Muslims.

          And for excellent reason. We want you expunged from the civilized world and confined within the geographical boundaries of the OIC membership. We would prefer you were not living upon our planet, but until you attack us with your nuclear arsenals, you are free to whelp and seethe. Hopefully, at some point, you will begin eating each other.

        • gray_man

          “People are being discriminated against simply for looking like Muslims”

          Moronic gibberish.
          What does a “muslim” look like?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I heard Muslims look like sons of pigs and dogs – just like their prophet of Satan called Mohammed.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Not looking like, ACTING like

        • defcon 4

          People are being murdered by muslimes for the crime of being Christian, or Jewish, or Hindu, or Buddhist or atheist (in wonderful islam0nazi Bangladesh).

    • http://ironburka.blogspot.com/ Mullah Lodabullah

      * Everyone was born muslim, according to the false prophet. The question of race doe not arise, since those who have left allah’s evil religion are from all races.

      The Prophet Muhammad said, “No babe is born but upon Fitra (as a Muslim).

      http://islam101.com/dawah/newBorn.htm

      * The false prophet was telling porkies.

    • gray_man

      Only if you are a moron.

    • Martin Grimes

      Try not to let your sensitivity get in the way of being corrected. In the west we do this all the time. You had your say now let us have ours. Please correct us if we are wrong or leave the discussion, and please, no more racist or victim card, it is getting old!

    • sohail

      What do you expect from this man, so called Ibrahim, and on this Frontpage Mag.

      • gray_man

        I expect what we get. The truth.

      • Drakken

        Do you know when a muslim is lying? Its lips are moving.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Islam = Racism!

  • Melanie Schielder

    I love how these Muslims live by the words of the Quran, yet use modern day tech, what a bunch of hypocrites

    • Hassan

      Ridiculous. Mathematics is a prerequisite for modern day tech. Without the pioneering work of Muslims in mathematics, I`ll bet you’d still be using abacuses.

      • A Z

        Mulisms made the Mediterranean a Muslim lake, raided commerce, pillaged, communities along the northern shores.

        When the Muslim halted commerce by Christian nations such as the Merovingian Kingdom, they do not have much excess wealth tho support specialists such as mathematicians.

        When Byzantium is repeatedly invaded more wealth goes into maintaining a military than into specialists such as scientists.

        When the shores of Italy are ravaged it is hard for framers to produce a surplus so that artisans and other specialists can flourish.

        The Merovingian Kingdom collapsed and was replaced by the Carolingians because commerce on the scale it had been before ceased. The cessation was due to Muslim conquest and piracy.

      • Softly Bob

        Muslims made no progress whatsoever in mathematics. Even the concept of Arabic numerals was stolen from the Hindus.

        • A Z

          Rome had extensive trade with India.

          Rome was Allies with the ancient Ethiopians. Axum spread across the sea into Yemen (see Martyrium Arethae).

          They also has a naval base in Aden, Yemen and another naval bases on the island of Farasan.

          Myros Hornis in the Egyptian coast was garrisoned with camel troops.

          Rome was also established on the island of Socotra.

          This ended when the Sassanian Persians invaded Syria. The number system would have come to Rome, if Persia had not taken over Yemen.

        • sohail

          Why are you calling them Arabic numerals, why dont you call Hindi numerals, and why do you call Algebra, an Arabic word, why don’t you call it something else.

          go do some search on Google. Then you will not be able to come back to your computer.

          • gray_man

            We call them “arabic” numerals, because the west adopted the numerals from arabs, however arabs had these long before the filth of islam was puked onto the world.
            Again, algebra was invented long before the filth of islam was puked upon the world.
            muslims don’t get to steal others work and claim it as their own.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            But Islamist do steal and claim that their loot belongs to them.

            That is the basis of the Islamist claim of Jerusalem, the mosque of Istanbul, various former Hindu temples in India.

          • defcon 4

            I read an article that suggests the Taj Maajal wasn’t originally built as a muslime mausoleum, but as a Hindu temple.

          • MarilynA

            I remember when the Communists in the USSR claimed that they had invented everything and Americans stole it from them. Then the 15 IQ points below every other race blacks claimed they built and invented everything and whites stole it from them. Now the Muslims claim they invented everything and the west stole it from them. If they are so smart, and have the ability to invent stuff, how come they still live in the stone age, and have to steal from people who know how to work and produce to survive?

          • gray_man

            Hell’s bells ! All the ones I know don’t even know how to use toilet paper !
            It truly is a backwards retrograde philosophy.

          • Jake-a-runi

            I understand that algebra is not at all an Arabic word, but a contraction of the longish Arabic name of an Arabic author who wrote upon the Ptolemaic mathematics that was acquired with the jihadic conquest of Egypt.
            .
            This may be a minor point, but attribution of essential techniques of calculation to Islamic or Arabic culture as their own creation is false.

      • Raymond_in_DC

        Most of that “pioneering work” is actually Indian or Persian in origin, or based on earlier Greek works. It was merely transmitted by Arabs (or by Christians and Jews who lived within the Umma) on to Europe.

        Tell us Hassan, how much pioneering work emerged from Arabia, the heart of Islam? The truth is, the farther from that Islamic center or the closer to more mature “infidel” cultures, the greater the contributions. It was only where established Hindu, Zoroastrian, Christian or Jewish culture was allowed to flourish that Islam flourished. When they were suppressed, Islam stagnated.

        Look across the umma. Where do you see the bright spot? Israel (because of the Jews), and Malaysia (because of the ethnic Chinese). And next door Singapore, with a tiny Muslim population, does even better. Even Turkey thrives only due to its proximity to Europe and NATO investments, not to mention heavy borrowing.

        • sohail

          Ahhh, very ignorant, no knowledge of history at all. when Muslims were in Europe Jew flourished, when Muslim left Europe, Jews left as well because of mass murder by who, of course Christians, and where did the Jew go, of course where Muslim went, in Africa and in Arab.
          Well, no point talking if you have no clue.

          • rxpc

            I think instead of believing your version of events, I will stick with the words of those Jews who lived under Islam. You should familiarize yourself with the work of Bat Yeor who chronicles the reality of life as a dhimmi in the Muslim world.

          • gray_man

            muslims left europe because Spaniards kicked their filthy ideology out of Europe.

          • Raymond_in_DC

            You’ve obviously swallowed the lies and fantasies Muslims tell themselves. Let’s distinguish two phenomenon:

            First, in stable expansive empires where all know the rules and standards are set and accepted, many things are possible. That was true during the Roman Empire, and for a time was true during the Islamic empires. (I say plural because those empires rose and fractured into internal war from time to time, to everyone’s detriment.)

            But such “good times”, as existed in Baghdad for an extended time, in Spain for a time, and under the early Ottomans, don’t last. The Jews in 12th century Yemen and 19th century Persia suffered from forced conversion. Everyone – Jews, Christians and non-religious Muslims – suffered in Andalusian Spain under the fanatical Almohades – the Wahhabists of their day. My father’s father died in the forced march of Syrian Jews into Turkey toward the close of WW I – Muslims probably hoping to use Jews as cannon fodder. And today, of course, there are almost no Jews in the Arab world and Christians are being driven out. Are Arab countries better off as a result?

            Martin Gilbert I think has it right – that it was never as bad under Islam as it was at its worse under Christendom (genocide and Holocaust, though Haj Amin al-Husseini collaborated with the Nazis to bring the Holocaust to the Jews of Palestine). But it was never as good as it was at its best either, as Jews were never granted full civil rights equal to those of Arabs or Muslims.

            So you see, I know a lot more history than you assume.

          • Flashbang

            I forgot I was on a jewish site . Then I understood why the subhuman followers of allah were hunting people to behead.

          • Drakken

            You just have to love them Serbs, along with my Hapsburg ancestors, they threw you out of Europe once before and we are going to have to do it again.

          • MarilynA

            Sorry to tell you but Bill Clinton effectively wiped out the Serbs and broke Yugoslavia up into two Muslim countries with votes equal to ours in the UN and, although nobody mentions I,t another Yugoslavian state is about to become another Muslim country. That just leaves one State for the Serbs and as soon as Obama thinks nobody is looking he will see to it that it is overrun by Muslims who will finish off these valiant freedom fighters. Did anyone ever think that our country has a death wish? Why else would a majority of our cowering, guilt ridden populace twice elect a semi literate lying Muslim clown who is systematically dismantling of the greatest country the world has ever seen?

          • Drakken

            It would seem your not up on current events, the muslims in Bosnian and Kosovo are about to have another go it with support from the Saudi’s and turks, this time the Russians are not going to sit by while the Serb brothers get it again, they will intervene and nobody in NATO is going to do anything to stop it, good for the Serbs.

          • defcon 4

            Unreal, there was a massacre of upwards of ten thousand Jews, committed by muslimes, in Al Andalus.

          • A Z

            Link it please

          • defcon 4

            http://www.spainthenandnow.com/spanish-history/al-andalus-dhimmis/default_162.aspx

            That’s one article that mentions it. I don’t trust wikipedia anymore. They say 4000, muslime apologist sites say 2000.

          • MarilynA

            I have never checked anything out on Wikipedia because I understand anyone can put anything on there and people will think that because it’s on Wikipedia it’s factual. However, I do frequently refer to my pre revisionist non politically correct 1953 World Book Encyclopedia which basically affirms what used to taught as history in our public schools and universities. Tell me…Does Wikipedia repeat the lie that 3 million Cherokees died on the Trail of Tears? It’s written on the wall of the Cherokee Museum in Cherokee NC that only 3,000 Cherokees were included in that relocation of militant Indians. Nonmilitant Indians were not marched across the state of Tennessee and deposited across the Mississippi River. From all the hand wringing and white guilt being taught you would think they were marched half way around the world to Siberia. From what I have heard Wikipedia sucks. And anyone who believes the revisionist claptrap on it is a fool.

          • A Z

            spainthen&now

            Thx

          • gray_man

            Talk about ignorant ! When muslims stunk up Europe by their presence, the only ones who flourished were muslims. But then France kicked your a#$es, and Spain finally threw you out like the mongrel dogs you are.
            Christian Europe moved forward into civilization, creating it for the rest of the world, as muslims returned to their camel jockey roots.

      • iluvisrael

        haji, the major contribution you savages made to the world is the suicide vest

      • Jake-a-runi

        LIAR!! Have you savages ever encountered a library unworthy of burning? An historical artifact you don’t want pulverized? A nascent culture you can’t wait to plunder and enslave?

        Rebranding other cultures’ innovations is as close as you come to “pioneering work”, but resembles simple theft sufficiently to interest you. If you can’t steal livestock, stealing ideas and credit for them will just have to do.

        BTW, is this Hassan character genuine, or a provocateur
        , inserted to prompt responses?

        • Wolfthatknowsall

          The latter, I suspect.

        • Martin Grimes

          It is an edcuation either way!

      • Flashbang

        I have a nice sharp knife and I am looking to behead a muslim. You want to meet?

        • sohail

          Where, let me know your address. If you dare, and not coward. I will meet you any where, I will come to you, do not have to come, that is my desire to meet people like you, I am in clean-up operations, so please bring your family with you. Now lets have your address. I can not wait,Or anyone else?

          and by the way, there are many Muslims around you, let’s see what you can do.
          I shared your comments on Facebook and on Twitter, so some Muslim will be very pleased to meet you.
          Thank you,
          You will get what you asked for.

          Hassan share it on your facebook.
          this person can not get away now.
          I will find our his ip address so the computer and the place where he is.
          give me some time.

          • Mohammed

            You made a direct threat to another person.

            The attorney general will be apprised of the situation.

          • sohail

            fake Muhammad is supporting him killing Muslims, so he should be arrested too.
            I
            have already put these comments on twitter and on facebook, soon I will be contacted by law
            agencies. Also, this threat is made using Frontpage Mag. they should
            take of notice of it. and again I have right to protect myself. and there are two people, the person who made the threat and Muhammad.
            and before Frontmag edit or remove threating comments I have already posted online.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The US is not taking your threats to the USA lightly.

          • Drakken

            You certainly are a whiny little bitch aren’t you?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The FBI will be apprised about your threat to the USA.

          • gray_man

            “Where, let me know your address”

            What is the point?
            You will just send some soft-headed imbecile to blow himself up.
            Instead of coming yourself.
            Like all the other islamic cowards do.

          • sohail

            He want to meet. where?
            Cucumber field where nuns do squat.

          • Mohammed

            I screen printed this.

            I see the tag team or apparent tag team.

            I will contact law enforcement.

          • sohail

            Yes, You and the other guy are threatening to kill Muslims in the US.
            Wait to see the police on your door.

          • Drakken

            Typical muzzy, whine and cry like a little girl when some infidel hurts its poor precious feelings, f**k off back to the Islamic sh**hole you crawled out of.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            sohell, Wait to see DHS, FBI, NSA at your door, following you, monitoring your electronic communications.

          • Yusef

            Police never showed. Perhaps they will show up at your house in Michigan unless they need to keep you under surveillance to see, who your associates are.

            How is a a person writing that they will screen print something and contact police a threat?

            Are you off your meds?

          • Drakken

            Islam is islam, and where ever islam goes, the blood always flows, without exception. You muslims really have no idea of what is going to happen when you open Pandora’s little box of horrors.

          • Di3317

            I’ll probably get lynched for this, but I have a problem with blaming all Muslims for the extremist muslims. My daughter has a friend and her family belongs to the muslim religion. I love my daughter’s friend, she’s one of the sweetest little girls you could meet and her family is just the same. I can’t imagine them hurting anyone.

          • Drakken

            I am sorry to have to tell you my friend, but, when the proverbial SHTF nobody is going to take the time to find out what kind of muslim they are, because no one will care, that is the brutal cold hard facts. Give it a few years and I would bet good money that that little muslim girl will be sold off in her teen years to a first cousin.

          • defcon 4

            He’s their dupe.

          • Di3317

            I hear what you guys are saying and understand it, but I think there are a few exceptions to the rules.

          • Drakken

            Who will separate the wheat from the chaff?

          • Diana

            Only God has the ability to do that.

          • defcon 4

            Why don’t you go to:
            1. Pakistain
            2. Somalia
            3. Sudan
            4. Bangladesh
            5. Iraq
            6. Iran
            7. Syria

            and sound out those differences for us? Be sure to
            criticise islam while you’re there, after all, you have
            nothing to fear because most muslimes are good
            people.

          • Diana

            How did you get that out of my one comment about one family? I never said most muslims, I said a few. It’s a big world out there and a few means just that. I never said I support Muslims and think they are good people. The ones who attacked Benghazi and slaughtered our men, 911, Boston Marathon, etc., are killers with no conscious. You shouldn’t read so much in peoples comments.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Wait until she gets indoctrinated by the family – or stoned to death over some “family honor” slight.

          • defcon 4

            Hitler was kind to his dogs.

          • Martin Grimes

            Nice muslims or extremist muslims is not the point. It is the Qur’an that is the problem. It is non negotiable. From birth they have been brain washed with the Qur’an. That is where all the bandits and brigands in Muslim war and terrorism get their ideas. In the name of the prophet Mohamed they get their ideas. They are taught these verses and quote them when they murder.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Expect to have your background investigated too.

            The DHS, FBI, NSA will be examining your background and associations, moohammed.

          • Drakken

            Typical muzzy, doesn’t like when the infidel points out what islam is and what it does where ever it plants its filthy feet, it is the devils religion. Soon muzzy, real soon you and yours will do something especial egregious and then all bets are off and you will be fleeing our shores in absolute terror, in fact I will bet our wrath will make A Serb blush with envy. So do yourself a favor leave our infidel lands now, while you can.

        • Hassan

          Threatening someone’s life is a felony. I will share your post on social media and report you to the police.

          • Abdel

            Yes, and you have been punching people’s buttons for weeks trying to get someone to lose their cool. It is your way of doing jihad.

          • Hassan

            Yes, by all means blame the victim. I have debated here, that i all. I may not agree with most people here, but everything I have done is within the law. That does not give anyone the right to threaten my life.

          • Drakken

            Your living in our western countries, that in itself is a threat to all of us infidels, get out.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            You are much of a “victim” as some naz i filth.

          • Jake-a-runi

            Okay, stop baiting the guy please. Openness to dialog shouldn’t mean license to insult or threaten.
            .
            Threats may serve to silence people, but threats and insults will never serve to convince.
            .
            FWIW, as hostile as I may seem, I’ve had Muslim friends. They knew (because I’d told them) that I reject spiritual belief. We never engaged in mutual vituperations. They were simply nice people I knew before divorce rearranged my life. All of which causes me some angst.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I find it very, very difficult to trust a Muslim today

            I can’t get the idea of Taqiyya out my mind.

          • Tim N

            Well said!

          • defcon 4

            Muslimes as victim, what a laugh.

          • laura r

            true, you have a point. the site isnt moderated well. it’s their loss, they wont be taken seriously.

          • sohail

            Why on this board have names Abdel,. Muhammad etc. why are they coward, why do they not use their real name?

          • sohail

            fake Muhammad is supporting him killing Muslims, so he should be arrested too.
            I have already put these comments, soon I will be contacted by law agencies. Also, this threat is made using Frontpage Mag. they should take of notice of it. and again I have right to protect myself.

          • Flashbang

            This evil has come to America.

            I strongly urge you to arm yourselves. They are evil incarnate! The sword of the devil

          • Nick

            I would step away from the keyboard, if I were you. They are pushing your buttons.

            I am pretty upset about it myself. I am going to see a LEO

          • Flashbang

            I am trying to flush them out. All they know is fire. So fire is all they will ever get from me.

          • Drakken

            Sorry haji, the infidel is no longer playing by your rules, and will no longer be cowed by your threats. The western world is waking up to the clear and present danger you and your god forsaken religion pose to us infidels. The day of reckoning is coming, you can bet on it.

          • Jo

            Strange that. “Behead those who insult the prophet” seen on muslim demonstrations is fine, though?

            Thought so.

          • Jake

            The law is one sided.

            One can only hope the NSA is tracking these guys and seeing who their associates are so they can round them all up once the popcorn starts popping.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Like anyone who “friended” the Boston Marathon bombers Facebook page.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Then expect your imams to be arrested too – for threatening Infidels, and exhorting their congregants to go out on jihad.

          • iluvisrael

            but you beasts love death – what gives mo?

        • Emanuel

          Flashbang that was an extremely stupid comment.

          You have seen me post under other names and have liked my comments.

          Do not make another comment like this one.

          We have trolls that are not here to debate or discuss, but to punch buttons and demoralize.

          They certainly punched your buttons.

          • Flashbang

            Punched my buttons ? Nope just turning the fire on them. Folks better wake up to who these evil people really are. And wake up soon. Rape and murder is all they enjoy.

          • sohail

            Emanuel, I am Muslim and I will take all the criticism, that is your right and that is what you think, but threat to me and my family, no no. I will have to take care of it by all means necessary.

          • Emanuel

            When you say all means do you mean to bait people or bomb shopping malls?

          • Steve

            sohail gray_man
            • an hour ago

            He want to meet. where?
            Cucumber field where nuns do squat.
            I am going to 4 chan.
            I am sick of your baiting.

          • defcon 4

            But what about those who slander islam or its holey prophet? Will you do nothing about these najjis kaffir?

          • laura r

            i flagged it.

      • Martin Grimes

        During the Golden years of Islam, it was just conquest. The relatively small military caste that muslims were, were so busy
        with war, spreading Islam with the sword, and de-humanizing the vanquished to dhimmi status, that therewas no time for study, research or inventing. Almost everything was gained by
        war ,booty,sex slaves, taxing non slaves of their money
        and expertise.

        Sorry, I do not mean to offend. Please check the history and correct me if I am wrong.

        • Drakken

          Don’t be sorry, offend away, for the muslim has thin skin in a sandpaper world. It doesn’t take much to send them off in a frothing frenzy wailing away about the infidel.

          • Martin Grimes

            ….thin skin in a sandpaper world…. I think that is funny and at the same time true. Not to be rude!

          • Drakken

            No worries mate, it’s all good. ;)

        • kikorikid

          “No time for study, research, or inventing”
          Just HACK_HACK_HACK_HACK?
          Are you bragging here?

          • Martin Grimes

            Explain what you mean.

        • MarilynA

          Seems like I remember being taught that the time of Muslim domination of Europe was called the Dark Ages instead of the Age of Enlightenment. That was before it was politically incorrect to refute another culture’s claim to fame.

      • gray_man

        Blubbering nonsense.
        Stealing knowledge from people you conquer, does not allow to claim it as your own.
        Mathematics were invented long before the filth of islam infected the world.

      • Pisslam, PBUH

        Ridiculous- you picked the exact word to describe yourself- and Islam. You could also use ‘idiotic’, ‘obscene’, ‘brainless’ or any number of suitable descriptors.

        • MarilynA

          Try Barbaric.

      • gawxxx

        muslims are thieves and cowards , at least they are consistant , degenerates to the end ,

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Like their prophet of Satan called Muhammed.

      • defcon 4

        The delusional fairytale world of islam, where muhammad flies to the Temple Mount on a donkey in a single night, Jews are the descendants of apes and swine and satan urinates in your ear.

      • gray_man

        There was no “pioneering” work of muslims in mathamatics. Mathematics were figured out long before the stink of islam came along.

    • sohail

      Melanie, modern tech, uses 01101001 etc, the computer you are using is running on codes that is a work of Muslim world;
      Try not using Muslim’s inventions just for a day.
      I am laughing at your ignorance.

      • gray_man

        Muslim inventions?
        Do you mean things like wiping your backside with your left hand because you are too primitive to understand hygiene?
        No wonder you all smell like excrement.

      • Melanie Schielder

        Muslim invention?

        “We could argue that the first computer was the abacus or its descendant, the slide rule, invented by William Oughtred in 1622. But the first computer resembling today’s modern machines was the Analytical Engine, a device conceived and designed by British mathematician Charles Babbage between 1833 and 1871.”

        After John Napier invented logarithms, and Edmund Gunter created the logarithmic scales (lines, or rules) upon which slide rules are based, it was Oughtred who first used two such scales sliding by one another to perform direct multiplication and division; and he is credited as the inventor of the slide rule in 1622.

        Charles Babbage, FRS was an English polymath. He was a mathematician, philosopher, inventor and mechanical engineer, who is best remembered now for originating the concept of a programmable computer.

        WOW they sure look like Muslims to me? LMAO, stop with your taqiyya crap, no one is listening to Islamic lies any longer

        • sohail

          Ahhh Melanie, I am not talking about 19th century, I am talking about 9th century.

          This ancient knowledge
          of solutions of equations in turn found a home early in the Islamic
          world, where it was known as the “science of restoration and
          balancing.” (The Arabic word for restoration, al-jabru, is the
          root of the word algebra.) In the 9th century, the Arab
          mathematician al-Khwarizmi wrote one of the
          first Arabic algebras, a systematic exposé of the basic theory of
          equations, with both examples and proofs. By the end of the 9th
          century, the Egyptian mathematician Abu Kamil had stated and proved
          the basic laws and identities of algebra and solved such complicated
          problems as finding x, y, and z such that x +
          y + z = 10, x2 + y2
          = z2, and xz =
          y2.

          • Drakken

            Funny, it would seem you sorta kinda borrowed or outright stole from the Romans and Byzantines. Interesting.

          • Melanie Schielder

            your’e changing your story I see, you said Muslims invented the computer code, and I proved that was false, now your trying to say Muslims invented math, OMG get a frigging life, I’m so done with you

          • defcon 4

            The Pythagorean theorem was known to the Greeks long before muhammad molested his first little girl or killed his first critic. The Pythagorean theorem, as well all know, is an algebraic equation.

      • Drakken

        Your Islamic inventions were from people the muslims conquered you bloody inbred dolt. Funny how you savages have never evolved since the dark ages and want to drag us back there, sorry haji, us infidels are about to object.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Muslim world? Is that why IBM, Apple, Google, Microsoft are headquartered in Arabia???

        LOL!

      • defcon 4

        The delusional fairytale world of islam.

      • iluvisrael

        most of the moslem world is mired in poverty and 7th century mindset – and that’s how mohamed, the pedophile, wanted it

  • sohail

    How amazing it is, that people who are most ignorant of Islam and its teachings are the one who criticize Islam. If you ask them did you read the Quran, they would say, why should I, if you ask them where did you get this information from, they would say media. funny,
    That is why Islam is growing in the US and Christianity is shrinking at alarming rate.
    Do something, read Quran and then find errors in it.
    It is very simple to writhe against Islam, as Allah challenged in the Quran to all non-belivers to find an error, if you find one then it is false religion. and other five places in the Quran, Allah challenged non-believers to bring just one small verse like this and you will be the winner, so far, for more than 1400 years people writing against Islam and Quran but failed to come with the challenge.
    Instead of all the wars against Islam, all they have to do is to accept challenge of Allah.

    • CaoMoo

      Yeah except alot of us have read the koran and the hadiths and know full well the example of mohammed and Allah. As well as the fact that allah was a pagan god before mohammed ever got started. As well as the fact that mohammed was illiterate and contradicted the hell out of himself giving rise to the doctrine of abrogation. With his teachings becoming increasingly violent. All recorded for some reason in the koran and hadiths.

    • Veracious_one

      Do something, read Quran and then find out what is really all about…and it’s not mandatory to read it in Arabic,,,

      The Muslim Game:

      The Qur’an can only be fully understood in Arabic. One cannot criticize Islam without knowing Arabic.

      The Truth:

      Although Muslims often tell critics of Islam to “read the Qur’an,” they are usually unprepared for what happens when their advice is heeded. An honest translation of Islam’s holiest book generally reinforces negative opinion. The fallback is to then claim that the Qur’an can only be understood in Arabic.

      Of all the efforts to artificially insulate Islam from intellectual critique, this is probably the most transparent. Unfortunately, for those Muslims craving reassurance from the more embarrassing passages of the Qur’an and Sunnah, this cheap tactic of arbitrarily dismissing anything they disagree with still comes at a heavy price, since Islam cannot be protected in this way without sacrificing its claim to being a universal religion.

      In the first place, it is fundamentally impossible for anyone to learn a language that cannot be translated into the only one they do know, which means the apologists who insist that one “must learn Arabic” in order to understand the Qur’an are committing a logical fallacy. Either the Arabic of the Qur’an is translatable (in which case there is no need to learn Arabic) or it is not (in which case it can never be learned by the non-native speaker).

      Enter the skeptic. While every language has its nuances, how is that Arabic is the only one with words and phrases that are literally untranslatable? More importantly, why in the world would Allah choose to communicate his one true religion for all people in the only language that cannot be understood by all people? Even the vast majority of Muslims and their imams do not speak Arabic.

      Even more suspicious is that this amazing linguistic “discovery” was only recently made – and that it corresponds quite remarkably with the contemporary rejection of Islamic practices that were considered acceptable up until the religion’s recent collision with Western liberalism. In fact, the argument that hidden and alternate meanings exist to unflattering Qur’anic passages (justifying slavery, the inferior status of women, sexual gluttony, holy warfare, wife-beating, and religious discrimination) perfectly corresponds with the level of embarrassment that modern scholars have about the presence of such verses in the Qur’an!

      No other world religion claims that it can only be fully understood in one language. Neither is the same level of effort required to massage primary messages into palatability. While the Bible is distributed pretty much as is by various Christian groups, for example, it is rare to find a Qur’an that does not include voluminous and highly subjective footnoted commentary deemed necessary to explain away the straightforward interpretation of politically-incorrect passages.

      An additional problem for the apologists is that they want to have it both ways. On the one hand they declare that (for some strange reason) the “perfect book” can’t be translated and that Allah’s perfect religion thus cannot be understood by most of humanity without a battery of intercessors and interpreters. Then they turn around and blame the reality of Islamic terrorism on this same “necessary” chain of intermediaries by claiming that the Osama bin Ladens of the world have simply gotten bad clerical advice, causing them to “misunderstand” the true meaning of the Religion of Peace (in the most catastrophic and tragic way imaginable).

      Of course, another irony here is that, as a Saudi, the Qur’an-toting Osama bin Laden was a native Arabic speaker – as are most of the leaders and foot soldiers in his al-Qaeda brotherhood of devout Muslims. In fact, many critics of Islam are Arabic speakers as well – a fact that is often ignored by the apologists, who only find Arabic linguistic skills relevant when they are lacking (not that the same pundits have ever been known to care about whether a critic of the Bible speaks Hebrew or Greek).

      At this point there is only one avenue of escape for the beleaguered apologist – the weak claim that the Qur’an can only be understood in Classical Arabic, an obscure Quraish dialect which has not been commonly used in over a thousand years and is only known by a few hundred people alive today (generally Wahabbi scholars, who are – ironically enough – accused of taking the Qur’an ‘too literally’).

      It is hardly plausible that the differences between classical and modern Arabic are of such significance that peace and tolerance can be confused with terrorism, but even if this were true, it merely begs the question all the more. Why would such a “perfect book” be virtually impossible for the rest of us to learn – and susceptible to such horrible “misinterpretation” on an on-going basis?

      Really, it isn’t hard to see through this childish game, particularly since the rules are applied only to detractors and not to advocates. Apologists never claim that Arabic is a barrier to understanding Islam when it comes to lauding the religion, no matter how less knowledgeable those offering praise are than the critics. Neither do they qualify the claim that “Islam is the fastest growing religion” with the caveat that new converts (or the vast majority of existing Muslims) don’t understand Islam since they can’t read the Quran in Arabic.

      Obviously, the real reason for this illogical myth is that the information age is now making the full history and texts of the Islamic religion available to a broader audience, and the contents are highly embarrassing to both Muslim scholars and their faithful flock. Pretending that different meanings exist in Arabic is means of self-assurance and saving face with others.

    • rxpc

      Keep trying, Sohail. Maybe if you repeat the lie often enough you’ll convince someone on this board that you’re right. But I doubt it. For, in truth, it is those of us who are most familiar with Islam in the West who are the most critical. All you have to do is open your eyes to see that the more pious a muslim becomes, the more likely they are to support or participate in violent jihad. That is true both for those born into the religion and converts. As to why people in the West are converting? Where are most of the converts coming from? Prisons, drug addicts, social misfits. People who are already primed to welcome belonging to a religion that encourages violence.

      • sohail

        rxpc. your comments proved everyone that I am correct, you said, “it is those or us, who are most familiar with Islam”, and yet you gave an example of a person not from Quran or from Islam, again, as I said people like yourself, who do not read the Quran and see a Muslim of Christian like Hitler doing something and attached their act to their religion. While Quran is available online, it is not hidden, as I said read it yourself and then come back and talk about it.
        Do you not feel stupid of taking about a religion that you do not know about, you have never read Quran and talking about it.

        You also said people who are converting to Islam were Christian before and therefore, drug addicts, social misfits, and now they are Muslim, no more drug, and fit within society.
        So you proved again which religion is better, if you consider Christianity a religion, otherwise it is a business.
        Please do some research, before you put your comments, otherwise you are what you proving to be you are.

        • rxpc

          Funny that you assume that because I do not think highly of Islam that I am ignorant or unread. I assure you that is not the case. Also, I never said that the prisoners, etc. were Christian. More than likely they are adherents of the West’s favorite non-religion religion, secularism. They would likely gain benefit from any religion, but it is interesting that certain segments of society are attracted to a religion that advocates and permits violence toward women, non-believers, gays, etc. Of course, I also have to laugh out loud at your apparent certainty that being an adherent to Islam renders one free from addiction or criminal tendencies. I sure haven’t observed that. But I have observed that committed Christians and Jews do not convert to Islam. Disaffected ones, might. Sorry about the multisyllabic words and academic language. It is a side effect of an excellent education.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Anyone can do research on Islam.

          Read about 9/11/01.

          That is a date. Not a reference to some evil hadith or sura in the book the illiterate prophet of Satan called Moohammed dictated to some captive.

        • Drakken

          Your are living proof that inbreeding for a thousand years is a very bad thing, nobody is buying the lie that islam is. No matter how much you believe in the abomination called islam.

        • defcon 4

          “Christian like Hitler”, that theory has already been debunked mendacious islamic buffoon.

    • gray_man

      How amazing it is that most muslims are ignorant of their own filthy backwards “religion”.
      The koran is a bunch of gibberish that muslims are too stupid to even write in a coherent manner.
      Your “god”, and I use the term loosely, is a figment of the imagination of a retarded disgusting buffoon named muhammad (curses be upon him), who was a murderer, thief, rapist, pedophile, among other disgusting things.
      He’ll get his on judgment day, when God the father sends him to hell to be with allah (satan), and suffer for the filthy life he led.
      If you worship the false “god” allah (satan), then you will join them.

    • Drakken

      Your devils religion is about to face its day of reckoning in our western countries, your not going to be happy when it does, think Balkans on steroids. Every bloody day islam demonstrates its dark age mentality in cities all over the world, we infidels are getting sick and tired of it. Today you gloat, tomorrow you will be fleeing in terror for our wrath will be sung around a thousand campfires for a thousand years. Deo Volente.

    • laura r

      go challenge robert spencer. he can debate any iman hands down. read his blog, he could run rings around you.

  • tic…tic…BOOM

    Political correctness will be the downfall of America.

    • Flashbang

      will be ? Look around you it has already fallen.

  • The Facts

    I wonder how many days Raymond Ibrahim would still be allowed to write if he opposed kippas in the US military.

    • LibertarianToo

      Wow, you have to work hard to miss the point so thoroughly. Tell us exactly what behavior of the observant Jew would pose a threat?

      • The Facts

        It doesn’t threaten me. It’s just a hat.

        • LibertarianToo

          Indeed. And people who wear one aren’t going to open fire on their own military base, or blow themselves and innocent bystanders up for the sake of G_d. The same cannot be said of those who demand to look ostentatiously Muslim.

          • The Facts

            Haha. You’re afraid of a hat.

      • laura r

        observant jews dont join the military.

        • LibertarianToo

          Irrelevant to the argument

    • iluvisrael

      still obsessed with the Jews, huh shlomo?

    • rxpc

      I believe that under the military dress code, before this recent change, visible symbols of religion were not permitted. So a yarmulke was permitted as long as it was covered by the uniform. But it is not Jews that agitated to change that policy. And the other reason your statement is specious is that there is no correlation between Jewish piety and terrorism as there is in Islam. Jews who wear head coverings do it as a reminder to be humble before G-d. Not as a political statement.

      • The Facts

        Nonsense. It’s a semitic religious hat just like a turban is.

        • mohdanga

          So?? rxpc provided facts that Jews were not given special treatment unlike whining Muslims.

          • The Fact

            Semite semite. Hat hat. Same same. Otherwise, you’re are racist.

          • mohdanga

            A brilliant retort from the Muslim apologist!! Tell us, Mr. Mensa, what ‘race’ is Muslim?
            So, I’m a ‘racist’ for suggesting that Jews do not get special treatment while Muslims do. This is the new reality….anything that upsets crybaby Muslims is ‘racism’ well, because they say so! But the West needs more of you because you ‘enrich’ us infidels so much.

          • The Facts

            One more time for the slow people. If you think that Jews have more of a right to wear a hat than non-Jews, you’re a racist. It’s amazing the crap you people will fight over.

          • mohdanga

            It’s amazing how thick your head is!! Muslims are getting sprecial treatment from the military while Jews aren’t. Please reference an article showing Jews being allowed to show their kippas while in uniform.

          • laura r

            jews dont care about that like the muslims do.

        • laura r

          its hidden by the uniform

        • rxpc

          What is the religious justification for a turban? Just curious. I’ve never heard that before. However, your statement that a yarmulke is a “semitic religious hat” in no way refutes my argument and certainly doesn’t make it “nonsense.”

    • defcon 4

      I wonder how long Raymond Ibrahim would be living if he were to criticise your damned, dumb death cult back in Egypt? Or Indonesia, or Malaysia, or Somalia, or Iraq, or Iran, or Jordan, or Qatar, or the UAE…

    • laura r

      no one wears kippas in the military.

  • Bamaguje

    This is utterly ridiculous.
    Muslims who insist on beards and Hijabs, are exactly the type of Muslims that America.should exclude from its military.

    • Raymond_in_DC

      I’d also discharge those who convert to Islam while in uniform. That he/she would do so should automatically raise red flags. The last thing we need are more Jihad Joes.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        Any US citizen that converts to Islam is no longer a citizen
        of the USA, but an enemy of the USA.

      • BagLady

        Now I will concede this point. There is nothing worse than a convert. I have known a few in my time and they all come under the heading: ZEALOT. It doesn’t matter which faith they choose. They all feel the need to prove themselves to the dyed in the wool members.

        So sad.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      If the Marxist Dhimmicrat Party and the progressive liberal Republican Party weren’t both married to the cult of PC multiculturalism, mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage would already be banned and reversed.

      • Jake-a-runi

        Would you kindly keep your petty and divisive wedge out of it. Your GOP heroes are hardly blameless.

        • defcon 4

          I’d guess OYM has no admiration for the GOP, but you’ll find out soon enough.

        • laura r

          correct, bush was in bed w/them.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          Instead of emoting like the PC multicultural loon you have been inculcated to be, next time try to react rationally instead. Indeed, do I really sound like I’m a fan of the GOP?

          • Jake-a-runi

            You sound like a name-calling petulant child who cries out for attention. If I were to call you a name it would be “jerk”.

    • laura r

      now you know why they are invitied in. on purpose.

    • BagLady

      Oh hello Grandad

  • USARetired

    It figures we would only have ‘nitwits’ running our military after O’Bozo weeded out the good officers!

    • Christina Albert

      Do you really think you know the intelligence of muslims? Stop talking and start learning more about Islam, people like you who start talking ignorance about islam are the real ‘nitwits’

      • defcon 4

        The rising pile of dead bodies killed by muslimes in the 21st century alone is all I need to know about your death cult.

      • mohdanga

        Umm, we don’t need to learn more, it’s rammed down our throats every day by the Islam loving mainstream media about how ‘peaceful’ Islam is, how we can’t do without Muslims in the West….until the daily Muslim bomb, terrorist attack, beheading, demand, then it’s “Well, this isn’t the true Islam.”
        If Muslims and Islam are so great why do millions of Muslims move to the West??

        • laura r

          some to get welfare, some for college, some of business, some to infiltrate & take over. good enough reason?

      • Drakken

        We see islam demonstrated every goddamn bloody day around the world. It is a blight upon humanity and has been since the devils profit Mohamed(may you pizz on his dusty bones and spit on his grave) came crawling out of the desert and screwed his first 9 year old. Get it the f**k out of our western countries before we throw you out and go live in the Islamic sh**hole of your choice.

    • Bamaguje

      I’m waiting to see how the Jihad Muslim recruits would cope with the gays Obama has unleashed on the military.
      Sparks may fly…

      • mark

        Gays can be quite secretive. Some have been in the closet a long time. A jihadi might go after a gay in the open only to find his career come to a an end and he cannot figure out why.

        If it comes to a fight between jihadi and a homosexual, I put my money on the homosexual. the homosexual will outhink The Hasans and Sohails of the world everytime.

        • laura r

          what about the tran sexuals in the army? its no longer dont ask dont tell.

  • Minda

    You guys just can’t say “Muslims”, Muslims aren’t perfect beings, some muslims do bad and some do good, If you told a christian or a jew to do something that the’re suppose to do, then they maybe will and maybe will not do it, muslims are humans just like christians, and jews and atheists. No human is perfect, some do bad some do good. Some muslims do bad, some do good, Some muslims that are bad hurt you guys and they put on a bad image for muslims, but not ALL muslims are bad, some are really good. Keep in mind Islam is a way of life, a teaching. Some people say they’re muslims and completely ignore islam, so please guys before you start talking trash about Islam, think common sense and look really deep into it. By the way I’m a muslim, and I have non-muslims friends that respect me and my religion, they take a look into what I believe in and they approve of it. You guys need to learn even more than you know about muslims, before you guys start spreading ignorance around.

    • Jackie Jordan

      The Hijackers that flew the plain into the twin towers and the pentagon are an example of bad muslims, also jihad means spiritual struggle within oneself against sin, and also means to have effort in arabic, an effort to avoid harmful non muslims so stop talking crap about islam, and LOL @melanieschielder:disqus i’m dying of laughter with your ignorant, sarcasm. I mean I’m arab but not a muslim but I know an awful alot about Islam growing up in a muslim neighborhood and being surrounded with them, they’re really great people!

      • Hassan

        “The Hijackers that flew the plain into the twin towers and the pentagon are an example of bad muslims,”

        I’d say it was a false flag operation.

        “I mean I’m arab but not a muslim but I know an awful alot about Islam growing up in a muslim neighborhood and being surrounded with them, they’re really great people!”

        How can you be Arab but not Muslim? Why did you not convert?

        • Jackie Jordan

          i DONT live in Saudi Arabia, I grew up in egypt until i was 8, my dad’s yemen and pakistan and my mom is full yemen,and there are some middle easterners that aren’t muslims, so i’m yemen, and live in america, i’m not muslim. my name isn’t jackie jordan it’s rather hana abdel ********, it’s not only a muslim name… it’s a middle eastern name too.

          • Hassan

            Are you trying to tell me that none of your parents are Muslims, yet they come from Yemen and Pakistan? Apostates, yes?

          • defcon 4

            We all know what the penalty for apostasy is in islam don’t we Hassan Chop?

          • laura r

            there are yemite jews. dont know how many left.

          • defcon 4

            It’s a sure bet there are less and less every year actually living in the islam0fascist pigsty called Yemen.

        • Jake-a-runi

          I’d say it was a false flag operation.

          No one doubts that.
          That it was? Nope.
          That you’d say it? Yupe.

        • Jake-a-runi

          How can you be Arab but not Muslim? Why did you not convert?

          Maybe he’s just not hopelessly gullible.
          BTW, if you’ve been shown the proof that there really is an afterlife, that spirits are real and at least one purported prophet isn’t phony (and I don’t mean Edgar Cayce), please share it.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          A false flag called islam.

      • LibertarianToo

        No, the highjackers were good muslims waging jihad, just like their religion told them to.

        • Jake-a-runi

          And what were these cute rascals doing at the moment of impact? Probably praying. Isn’t religion wonderful?

          • rxpc

            Aloooooo Akbar. It’s not religion. It’s a cult of violence.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Funny that the people who oppose religion are the ones who come to the defense of Muslims.

          • Jake-a-runi

            … people who oppose religion are the ones who come to the defense of Muslims.

            What defense? Or are you just carried away by the opportunities to level cheap shots? And don’t pray for me.

          • defcon 4

            Because you stupidly attribute to religion the actions of muslimes. As if Buddhists, Hindus, Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Sikhs are all on-board w/the savage atrocities and persecution carried out by muslimes all over the world today.

          • Jake-a-runi

            Stupidly? You haven’t perused their “scripture”? Yet you post comments as if you are somewhat familiar with the subject?
            .
            One of us is a phony.
            I won’t be looking back at the thread, so you’ll have to start insulting someone else.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            You’ll find the phoney in your bathroom mirror.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            What Defense?

            Leftards, regressive progressives came to the defense of the Ground Zero “Cultural Center”.

      • laura r

        how come there are so many bad muslims? so violent? what is their deal?

    • CaoMoo

      Islam is a teaching that is right. Might I suggest looking at what it teaches, then looking at who is actually supporting it’s teachings. You’d be surprised. Read a Koran and the Hadiths.

      • Minda

        You’re very right @CaoMoo:disqus

      • joshuasweet

        and the devil is in the details

        • CaoMoo

          very literally

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        We read the newspapers to learn about Islam.

        9/11/01 for example.

        May the prophet of Satan called Muhammed continue to burn in H E L L.

    • jtrollla

      The problem is Islam itself. It is a blood cult with bits and pieces of Christianity and Judaism pasted on to give it a patina legitimacy as an “Abrahamic” faith when nothing can be farther from the truth.

    • Jake-a-runi

      Yes, we are condemning a lot of people. What choice have we?
      .
      Do not the majority of believers, in the published results of opinion surveys, approve of “defending Islam”? Is not this “defense” surprise attacks, killing and maiming in great profundity? If one percent of the Muslim faithful are actively pursuing this “defense”, isn’t that 15 million active terrorists, at any given moment? Do they not take turns, dropping in and dropping out, passing the endeavor along, like the baton in a relay race? Is it all reasonable that the entire world’s security apparatus can and must monitor one million, or ten million, or fifty million itinerant terrorists simultaneously? Do they not contribute their zakat to finance attacks world-wide, so that hundreds of millions of the faithful can claim they participated in the required assaults, as mandated by their scriptures, even if they can afford only a small contribution? Do they not so contribute, with the understanding that they can declare ignorance of the result? Are there not some ten thousand urls (information provided courtesy of emirates247.com) displaying their handiwork (beheadings, corpses of Buddhists chopped to bits, roadside bombings, ad nauseum) and proving to the faithful their zakat money is being spent as intended?
      .
      What are we supposed to do, say “Well, that’s okay. They’re pious.” ?!
      .
      There are 1½ billion fingers on those triggers, on those detonators. We cannot stop them from killing and maiming, but we can stop them from doing it HERE!!
      .
      I want them expelled, and confined inside the OIC membership.
      .
      I am not kidding.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Infidel learned all they need to know about Islam on 9/11/01.

        • Jake-a-runi

          Infidel [sic] learned all they need to know about Islam on 9/11/01.

          Apparently not. They’re still here and I see no popular initiative to make things otherwise (aside from my personal whining, of course). But, I’m old and sick with cancer and heart disease and simply unable to help herd the American voting cattle towards the professional politico with the guts and charisma to make it happen. Even if I were fit and energetic, I can’t find anyone sitting in elective office who even seems to acknowledge the problem, much less show any interest in addressing it. And as I edge towards the great nothingness, you youngsters better show some initiative in this regard, or the great ship of Western Civilization will founder.

    • Drakken

      Islam is evil incarnate period, and if you follow the devils religion, your as evil as the bloody rest of them and get out of our western nations. I see your islam demonstrated every bloody day, it is an abomination to humanity.

  • jtrollla

    Allowing Muslims into our military makes as much sense as recruiting Nazis into our armed forces would have been in WW II.

    • kikorikid

      The prevalence of “Green on Blue” violence is the “indicator”.

    • laura r

      now that gives us insight of WHY they are doing this. open&shut case.

      • jtrollla

        Well, your sarcasm betrays your ignorance of Islam and 20th century Middle East history. In WW II the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem endorsed the Nazis and visited Berlin as Hitler’s personal guest. The Nazis recruited Balkan Muslims into the Wehrmacht (despite their non-Aryan blood) where they fought against the Allies and assisted in the Final Solution by doing what Muslims are best at–killing Jews–when they’re not killing each other). Today Mein Kampf is a number one best seller in the Muslim world.

  • 2wotvet

    This is the exact same kind of bigotry that people had against Jews and Catholics a century ago. People in the early 20th century were convinced that Jews had a secret plan to conquer the world, and now ‘experts on Islam’ have ‘overwhelming evidence’ that Muslims are sneakily taking over the world by infiltrating Western governments and the UN. The ‘experts on Islam’ claim otherwise, saying that Islam is inherently evil and totalitarian, but that’s exactly what the ‘experts on the Jewish race’ claimed about Judaism.

    • JamesJ

      Do Jews cut off your head for not believing?

      • sohail

        Neither do Muslims. any proof? put some weight on your statement, without any evidence it is hollow or like a bubble.

        • JamesJ

          Are you effen serious? Daniel Pearl ring a bell? I hope its prayer time for you soon. I need a place to park my bicycle.

          • sohail

            So killing Daniel Pearl is Islam, then you really need to put a cucumber on your bicycle seat.

          • JamesJ

            Yes, its the epitome of Islam.

            A friend of mine in Afghanistan is selling explosive prayer rugs. He said prophets are going through the roof!

          • sohail

            You friend must be a Christian, killing people.
            he should be in body bags business, he will make more money in Afghanistan.

          • mohdanga

            “You friend must be a Christian, killing people.”
            Remind us again of how many Christians in Iraq are killing Iraqi Muslims? And the same in Afghanistan, Iran, Lebanon, Egypt, Sudan, Tunisia, Somalia and every other Muslim cr*phole.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Even KGB Putins Russia is on the lookout for Muslim terrorists due to chechen threats to kill people.

            You KNOW you are in trouble when the KGB is on your case.

          • rxpc

            LOL

          • Jake-a-runi

            LOL. I’m gonna use it.

          • iluvisrael

            the subhuman savages do it in the name of islam

          • defcon 4

            You know what the purest source of healthy camel urine is? I think you should get your prophet recommended dose direct from the source.

        • iluvisrael

          then there’s that moslem beast from ‘bridges TV’ who settled a argument with his wife by removing her head, I could also list names of global victims of ‘honor’ killings, oh yeah, that little skirmish at the mall in Nairobi, etc

      • 2wotvet

        Do Muslims? Non-believers are going to Muslim-majority countries like Bosnia, Azerbaijan, Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Palestine, Bahrain, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Oman, Morocco, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan and Indonesia without anyone from the government or civilian population threatening them, let alone cutting off their heads for not being a
        Muslim.

        • Drakken

          And most of these people are armed to protect themselves from these savages, I know I am. I work in the Islamic world and if you are not armed, your a target, keep singing kumbaya and ignoring reality, lets us now how that works out for you.

        • defcon 4

          A Korean pastor and his son recently disappeared in Turkey while proselytizing Christianity there. For some reason the all muslime Turkish law enforcement agencies don’t care.

      • laura r

        it is against the jewish religion to recruit or preach except to other jews. the only ones who did that were converts themselves (from turkey), the khazars. other than that it is forbiddon. besides some residue rituals, you couldnt find 2 more opposite groups. the fight has been on since the arabs were pagan. jews dont behead, never did.

    • rxpc

      There is no similarity between them whatsoever. The crimes of which Jews were accused were proven to be false. On the other hand, jihadists commit murder and mayhem in the name of their religion, prophet and god. We don’t make this up or infer the reasons. The jihadists themselves state their reasons. Over and over again. You would have to have your head buried in dirt not to see that.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      How many Jews hijacked passenger planes and flew them into buildings, beheaded captives and post the murder on the Internet, maintain the price of oil at $100 per barrel, shoot fellow soldiers in Fort Hood, bomb London transport on 7/7/05.

      The slurs against Jews were FALSE.

      Muslims slur and kill people ALL OVER the WORLD.

    • Drakken

      Your either being obtuse, or you refuse to see what is happening all over the world, which is it? Or are you overwhelmed by the fact that islam is pure unadultered evil and your atheist mind cannot comprehend the gravity of the horror that islam is facing us?

    • LibertarianToo

      And most of the people who believe in an Inter-Galactic Zionist Conspiracy now are called “Muslims.” Arabic translations of “Mein Kampf” and the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” are bestsellers in the Arab world right now. Most of us didn’t give any thought- bigoted or otherwise- to Muslims until they murdered thousands of people in the twin towers. You really don’t know what you’re talking about, do you?

    • Martin Grimes

      You made yourself a little following I see! But seriously, I do know how you feel and I encourage you to throw everything you have at us. Give us all your best defence for human decency and in support of all Muslims and other humans everywhere and in the name of world peace go for it…..I agree that there are some individuals who express strong opinions in a very direct manner. Some of them sound quite agitated even hateful. I did not join the debate based on hate or scaremongering for that matter; it was the study of Christian persecution that prompted me. I am Christian and I have questioned my faith and compared it to other worldviews; tested it so to speak. So I learnt something about atheism, secularism, Buddhism, Hinduism and others Islam included I came to the conclusion that I did not make a mistake choosing to believe in Jesus Christ or the Bible. The evidence supported it. I recognised I had a bias but that did not change the facts. I also realised that they can not all be the only truth at the same time and subjective feelings do not do very well in finding the truth.

      So……..Islam claims to be the revealed word of The One True God and so does Christianity yet they both present a differing revelation from The One True God. The worst you can think in Islam is that God is the Trinity. People get killed for that; http://www.worldwatchlist.ca Muslim dominated countries are not tolerant. Apart from N.Korea and Laos and a couple of others it is Islamlic ones that do the bigotry on the state level. Anyway really sorry for going on so long. So keep going and God bless

    • laura r

      about the breard thing: many ortodox jews have beards. in the old days in europe even just plain ordinary jews had beards. still, theres a big difference between the jews & islam. night & day.

  • Jake-a-runi

    Admin, please remove this spam.

  • macdaddy31

    One of the problems is that this Administration has stacked the deck with people who think like their leader, who then hire people that think like them, etc. And I think we all have a good idea of what goes on in the mind of our President. Second problem is that Conservatives, at least compared to the present-day left-leaning liberals on the other side, are reserved and cautious in their criticism and fight. While the Left yells and spits and interrupts and belittles and diminishes their opposition order to get their way, the Right, for the most part, puts out logical, rational arguments in a cogent, even-spirited way. Unfortunately, unfairly, and to the detriment of good society, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

  • grog

    You’all are losing control down there. Good Luck and God bless

  • Todd Carpenter

    As a disabled Veteran, I am disgusted with our Military Leaders in the Pentagon. Never shoould have happened. I am not aware of any other cases in which the Pentagon caved into religious preference issues. I served the majority of my career as a believing Christian and never received, nor expected preferential treatment. I was in Uncle Sam’s Church and we’d wear what he said and cut our hair and beards likewise. If for no other reason, this does nothing but highlight these individuals, both in garrison and on the battlefield. Why not allow Christians to do their thing? Why not Jehovah’s Witnesses? Why not Buddhist’s, Mormons and all the others? The American leaders in the Pentagon need to man-up and soldier on. When you volunteer for Uncle Sam, you do it his way. They’ve done nothing more in my opinion than cave to pressure from the very same religion we are fighting on many fronts across this world. If your child threw a fit everytime he or she did not get their way, I would hope you gave them a good dose of their on medicine. Why then are we tolerating a religions temper tantrums. If they don’t like the rules, get out. Don’t change the rules for that one group only. You are slowly aiding Obama in his attempts to ruin this country. I for one am glad I no longer serve. I would be in constant fear that the leaders we now have in the Pentagon and the White House, would send me and my brothers into a battle with the very people they are selling their souls to please.

    • Jake-a-runi

      I celebrated three birthdays as a soldier. Day one I was given, count-em, four Gillette razors with enough double-edged blades to shave for six months. Beards? And only the Army, right? Another “improvement” by the fraternity boys from the USMA, who describe non-West Point officers as irrelevant, and feel the EM are trash?
      .
      Decisions important to preserving the traditions of service should be handled only by actual soldiers. I cannot imagine any that any E7 or better, or any field grade officer who got there by having worn his rank upon his sleeve, participated in this. It was this same cavalier bunch that discarded the Triangular organization and replaced it with the Pentomic organization in the mid-fifties. The Pentomic divisions had five “battle groups”, throwing out regiments and regimental histories traceable to the Civil War. Of course, it didn’t work out and the Army instituted ROAD, the reorganized army division. They couldn’t simply return to Triangular organization, because that would mean they’d admit a mistake, something that they would not permit. So we got ROAD, with battalion names affiliated with historic regimental identities, like 1/32 and 2/32 Infantry Battalions, but no 32nd Infantry Regiment.
      .
      This is the same thinking that appended a rocker to the PFC chevron, making the insignia of, what, a staff private? And the singleton chevron was passed to the E2s, without the First Class appellation.
      .
      I hope the VA is treating you well. I’ve been trying without success since 1970 to have my hearing loss from tank gunnery recognized. I don’t need the $246 per month so much as the uncontested service-related care 20% disability would grant me. They’ve treated me for cancer three times and have saved my life. And now I’m a candidate for open heart surgery.
      .
      Very unfortunately, I had to use the FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) just to get a copy of my medical records. And then I discovered that my medical records and personnel file were incomplete. Either by remarkable co-incidence or VA skullduggery, important sections of both were missing and they were exactly the sections supporting my disability claims (there was more than one issue).
      .
      But, as usual, the bureaucracy is winning as the aged veterans embrace the grave, and those irritating disability claims die along with them.
      .
      Good luck to you.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    When GWB proclaimed that Islam was a so-called “religion of peace” and that the vast overwhelming majority of Muslims in the world were peaceful and moderate people and exactly like the adherents of other peaceful religions, with the exception of a few radical Muslim extremists here and there who unfortunately misunderstand the peaceful religion of Islam, it was a lie just as profound and just as damaging as the lies Obama told about Obamacare that he used to win reelection. Because in the case of GWB, he not only used the 9/11 jihad attacks to double the size, scope, and power of the federal government like a Marxist Dhimmicrat on steroids, he also used that fiction as the justification for his so-called “War on Terror”, to protect the so-called “religion of peace” from those radical Muslim extremists who would hijack it, which ended up being a total unmitigated disaster and what is the greatest strategic blunder ever in American history.

    Nevertheless, in stark contrast to what GWB first laid out, the sole fundamental purpose of Islam is the subjugation of all religions and all infidels into Islamic totalitarianism through both violent and non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad and the eventual imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law, in order to make Islam supreme. Indeed, in Islam waging jihad is not only a holy fundamental obligation incumbent upon all Muslims, it is also the sole path to salvation for all Muslims as well.

    Hence, Islam is anything but a so-called religion of peace, and if you think that Islam is a religion at all, then you are sadly mistaken, as the first and foremost prerequisite of Islam is the total, complete, and unconditional submission to the divine “will of Allah” under the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy.

    Thus, if a Muslim later on decides that he or she no longer wants to be a Muslim for whatever reason or decides that he or she doesn’t want to wage jihad in the cause of Allah, per the dictates of Islam, and also does the aforementioned openly, then such a person will not only be condemned to burn for eternity in hellfire and damnation, but they will also be executed on top of it. Indeed, apostasy and blasphemy in Islam are capital offenses.

    Now this begs the question, what true faith-based religions also likewise systematically execute adherents for apostasy and blasphemy? The answer is none of them. Islam is alone in that regard, proving unequivocally at the same time that Islam is not a religion but a cult instead masquerading as being a religion.

    Furthermore, what is the divine “will of Allah” that all Muslims totally, completely, and unconditionally submit to under the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy? In essence it is Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law. Thus, Islam is not only a cult per se, but it is also a very totalitarian cult as well.

  • John

    And so the Islamic Fifth Column in America just gets stronger and stronger….

  • Di3317

    Who gives a rip about discrimination, let’s talk about protecting American citizens.. Why is this Administration so determined to destroy our country? All these insane things going on are going to rip apart the future for our children.

    • mattogilvie55

      He hates America, why is that so hard for some people to grasp?

  • WhiteHunter

    Okay, here’s the obvious dilemma, just waiting for the first test case:

    A bearded, turban-wearing moslem recruit threatens to kill a gay recruit because, he correctly points out, his religion commands him to kill gays.

    The gay, in turn, slaps him (or tosses a shirley temple in his face) and accuses him of being a “homophobe” — a serious, court-martial offense punishable by time in the brig in today’s U.S. armed forces.

    Which recruit does the JAG arrest and court martial? The moslem, the gay, or both (or neither)? What are the charges? Or are they both assigned to Sensitivity Training? If so, would that constitute a violation of the moslem’s religious rights?

  • popseal

    Deployed eight times to war zones on behalf of America’s interest, I can now say that I wouldn’t cross the street if the DoD or the Pentagon called and said to do so.

  • BagLady

    It cannot be considered a ‘uniform’ unless it is ‘uniform’. If, on the other hand, the US is going to take on regiments of foreign soldiers, then so be it. In British regimental history, every subset of the army has its own particular uniform…. the Gurkhas come to mind. Sikhs also had their place in our battles, complete with turbans.

    Reminds me of my Victorian father telling my poor brother to “get your hair cut!”